Rudy's 21st Birthday feat. Matt Braunger | Ep 143 | Bad Friends

[@lukadoncic2477]

Bobby is such a good dude. When he was watching that video of Rudy seeing her sister you could tell he was holding back tears. Bobby is under appreciated.

[@karsonalbert9732]

Such a beautiful moment, Bobby is a softie

[@Halry1]

Hawaain lover boy wouldn’t do that for khalyla’s family

[@lukadoncic2477]

@@Halry1 hey why are you here. Be gone

[@ichiban308]

Yeah you could totally see him getting touched watching the video.

[@lukadoncic2477]

@@ichiban308 haha very funny comment haha

[@okstevie11]

Lol when Andrew asked Rudy's sister to say "I'm so happy to be here" in Japanese she said, "I'm so bored right now though" 😂

[@peak9985]

Actually ? 😂😂

[@okstevie11]

@Peak For real! Well, she said "hima" which means free time but can also mean bored, which is definitely what I think she was going for in this context 😅

[@faintsherin4468]

@@okstevie11 She clarified in Tiger Belly's podcast, that she was indeed bored.

[@Crimson11100]

She was yawning a lot.

[@harryn1602]

​@@faintsherin4468she was bored? She should try having to listen to her 😴

[@nickricci19]

2 minutes in and Isabella has already talked more than Rudy has her entire duration

[@ASHsor]

Nope

[@nickricci19]

@@ASHsor How the fuck do you watch this show and not get this is sarcasm 😅

[@derrickpatterson8556]

@@nickricci19 You’re right. Sarcasm over text is easy to notice. (This comment is sarcasm)

[@GuitarLegend310]

@@nickricci19 dunno why but i imagine them sitting down grumpily with their arms crossed like "well, this dude is just lying"

[@gallohoncho8063]

Nick relax all he said was nope, that could've been a sarcasm

[@ivergara24]

Bobby and Andrew screaming the same number over and over again has to be the best moment in Bad Friends history😂

[@dmitrijkosarev6387]

but how ?

[@kenithjenova4832]

It's all about distractions while they talk then with their hands they sign the number

[@kenithjenova4832]

Look at andrew's hand @46:21

[@Tiersenhiphop]

​@kenithjenova4832 nice catch. How did they do it at the end tho?? Haha

[@007bogossemre007]

​@@TiersenhiphopThey probably discussed a sequence of numbers before the girls came back in. Because Bobby's second question after they came in was "what did you think of our psychic abilities?" 😂

[@mysteryduckman]

I got into Bad Friends late. Like the last month. I binged up to this point and honestly when Rudy cried when her mom came out of the car I cried too. I know noone will see this, but thank you for being a Bad Friend.

[@MattMcLeod6]

🤝

[@SoulaGames7241]

Cringe asf

[@ac1dace950]

​@SoulaGames7241 look how cool you are making fun of someone who is enjoying the same podcast as you are bro

[@SoulaGames7241]

@@ac1dace950 this is America, I can voice my opinion however I’d like to

[@kartikeydhariwal8416]

Bro I did the same fucking thing let's goooo @mystryduckman

[@armando1is1great]

Andrew saying "In your face!" to a 14 year old is what I needed to see today

[@braedyncooper3056]

Time stamp please 🤣

[@omarmoran515]

@@braedyncooper3056 32:50

[@TenableTester]

​@@braedyncooper3056And if you check around 32:45 you can see Bobby doing the hand signals on the table 😂😂

[@Jake_Smith7472]

​@@TenableTester professionals lol

[@sheeple5310]

Bobby looking at crying Rudy when she saw her mom and sister in that video made me tear up.

[@kid9472]

Seen that too. It just shows you that Bobby's heart is still beating and he said b4 that time is catching up with him , So he is trying to do more good than bad before leaving . . . Pausing it when there watching the clip to see their 3 reactions is why we are not fans of this pod , we are a family.

[@alexhenriquez5189]

I didnt notice that before reading this comment. Wonder what was going in his mind lol

[@ASHsor]

Most emotion I've ever seen from him. Very sweet.

[@broham89]

❤❤❤

[@79Glitch]

@@ASHsor Plenty of times he’s had similar reactions when Rudy was crying about their foster dogs, or about their dogs in general.

[@startup-streak]

That whole numbers bit was hilarious. Bobby and Andrew are great at improv!

[@thetruthh101]

Bobby and Andrew saying numbers at the same time is literally the best thing I have ever seen. Wow those guys are connected 😂

[@giftaliaevanspizarro4860]

As a Filipina, the fact that Isa's friend's future is dependent on the presence of a Potato Corner stall cracks me up 😂

[@chanellbunger7611]

Aww I seriously started to tear up when they showed the video of Jules getting surprised by her family. So sweet.

[@icemuppet361]

bobby has a huge heart and hides behind his hilarious behavior. such a good moment in time

[@imtrashiswear]

Every birthday on this show is always chaotic as hell. That’s why we’re here 😌

[@hardikkapoor4921]

I am from India, I sleep with you guys in my ears. Not because you’re boring, but because you make me happy.

[@trapduck834]

ayo

[@bawabawaa192]

@44:48 Even Bobby was feeling it when Rudy started crying, lips all down...just like...yeah I just wanna give them all a big hug..!!❤️❤️

[@HK416simp]

How is nobody talking about the telepathic connection between Bob and Andrew 😂

[@sirdigbychickenceasar4474]

My guess is one of the production guys is helping throught the headphones. Or magic.

[@missemod]

You can see Andrew gesture 1 and 4 if you look closely when Andrew is scolding Jules lol

[@DecidedJet9]

That was funny, but they always signal each other with their hands 😂

[@akire27]

Bobby was showing him the number to say with his fingers 🤣

[@thenarrat]

At the end they did the 3 and 9 and hands behind their backs and they didn't even look at eachothers hands @@akire27

[@RatchetPo]

I used to think Rudy was the voice of reason maintaining this show's ever so slight grip on reality, but I now know they're all just different strings on the same violin of chaos

[@paramoree013]

well put!

[@ZeganVE]

You thought Rudy was the voice of reason? Lol her only input is... "He's hot" and randomly yelling..

[@claytonjones8358]

Don't have kids

[@Beercanstan]

This is the most accurate and well-written/poetic, comment i have ever read

[@tileavenue6911]

@@Beercanstan .... that was plagiarized from someone else

[@MrJORDANnumba1]

Rudy's sister does seem ahead of her age, she already speaks English with an American accent better then Rudy. And her Japanese sounded legit. And the fact that she was able to get out of her depressed faze and acknowledged it is so mature. Bobby can sense she's special

[@randomdude6572]

Totally agree, she's great but the bit where she talked about how she and her friend were choosing a place to live based on a fast food franchise reminded me that she's a kid lol.

[@MrJORDANnumba1]

@@randomdude6572 lmao yes 🤣

[@ArtistFormallyKnownasMC]

“Yeah we’re going to go to college and live in idk either LA or Canada lolz and eat fries” But for real, she was cool, a nice guest to have. But as a former teacher, I did cringe at a child being on the progrum. Hahaha

[@MrJORDANnumba1]

@Wylder Watkins yes but there's more similarities between two people form the same culture then two people from different ones. Stereotypes aren't rules but they are accurate like 70 Percent lol

[@CloseYourBrownEyes]

@@MrJORDANnumba1 Culture ≠ race/ethnicity

[@DeadShot618]

I will say this: that Fancy is really getting good at the roasts. He goes straight for the throat lol

[@TrevorMaliszewski]

That one at the very end about waking up ealier to be in the light had me howling. so good.

[@Sasquatch10]

One of my top 3 moments from the entire history of bad friends was when they had fancy call in on zoom and do a stand-up set. He absolutely obliterated.

[@iAmNot-Groot]

@@Sasquatch10 what ep ?

[@Revorino]

@@Sasquatch10 want to know the ep too

[@Sasquatch10]

@@Revorino Sorry guys but i don't remember the episode. All i remember is that is was during the pandy and andreas called in from zoom.

[@joeyhighsman6013]

I'm truly impressed by mini Jules. Isabella seems wise beyond her years.

[@jakesmall8875]

She’s a literal genius that’s why She has like a 160 iq

[@souichinoodles3401]

Awww look at bobbys face when Rudy starts crying in the video. He looks like he's gunna start crying too. You really are a kind person Bobby

[@danielorta182]

I feel like Bobby is truely genuine human, and I can see he wants to help this young girl for school. You’re awesome human Bobby lee.

[@digitalsuperman]

true. love bobby.

[@olith]

Lots of comedians, especially women, have said how much Bobby helped them in their careers early on. Whatever he thinks of himself he 100% has a good heart.

[@StanleyKubick1]

*truly

[@AIIen.alledgedly2]

Grooming

[@BuiltAdifferentbreed]

​@@AIIen.alledgedly2that's what I'm saying Bobby also mentioned how he was hanging out with a 14 year girl in the Philippines often that's weird when ur pushing 40 or 50 even if her sister is his assistant

[@Karobe]

Lmao at the number connection segment 🤣. Bobby and Santino are really twins.

[@Madagon367]

Bobby still on his quest to adopt half the island. Good for him.

[@ASHsor]

Not funny

[@mattwheatley593]

@@ASHsor pretty funny

[@hybs9473]

As a filipino, that's pretty funny. Pick me unc 😂

[@brittneylee4486]

Not Isabella planning her college and entire future around a potato corner 😂😂

[@franciscopulido1219]

This is one of my favorite episodes, made me feel all the feels. Laughed, almost cried, happiness, and just full-on shenanigans

[@jonah2486]

Oh my goodness, this kid is unreal. Three languages and she’s talking so eloquently about depression and self image and stuff. Making big brave commitments to move and execute on plans with friends. 14 man that’s so crazy!

[@Betty-Boop809]

I thought the same, very impressive.

[@TornAaPaRt]

She's way better then Rudy and actually speaks like an adult

[@unclemandragon5670]

@@TornAaPaRt than* 😉

[@TornAaPaRt]

@@unclemandragon5670 don't wink at me unless you're ready to take it up the ass 😉

[@digitalsuperman]

true. hope they can have her on bad friends as well.

[@apoc5000]

God dammit this episode was good. I hope this podcast lasts forever

[@joshuadrummer3234]

Fuckin A! Monday's would suck without it!

[@Greenhelix5]

It wa a banger man.

[@Urglerbob]

@@joshuadrummer3234 dude no kiddin!

[@curtismartin9054]

Did you like the Potato Corner advertisement?

[@BoolyK]

The way andrews health is idk how long this thing has.... (he injects intravenously)

[@NutStack4real]

I didn’t expect yo cry watching bad friends today. Rudy seeing her mom and sister got me

[@neuroplasticity]

you need some testosterone

[@NutStack4real]

@@neuroplasticity fruitbooter

[@happyfeet12314]

@@neuroplasticityits okay to have a heart & soul

[@happyfeet12314]

@@neuroplasticityits okay to have a heart & soul

[@dannybahoobees19]

Gehhhhhhh

[@iansuttles9607]

This podcast is literally the only thing that actually makes me smile anymore. You guys are the greatest

[@rudy6292]

Gay

[@colbyrodgers863]

That's not good

[@Thatcloud33]

Just lost my grandmother and seeing rudy cry got me. Thank you for being bad friend!

[@GhastlyCretin]

What they didn't mention about Rudy sister being able to speak Japanese is that she's self taught. That's pretty impressive.

[@lc4328]

It was mentioned in a previous episode

[@GhastlyCretin]

@@lc4328 That was Tigerbelly.

[@qbicsrube]

When they asked to say she was happy to be there she said "Im so free right now" as in not busy so I don't know how much japanese she actually knows

[@aprili.3802]

@@qbicsrube I thought that was what she said too 😅 I was like “is that slang I don’t know?” Haha guess not.

[@set7618]

@@GhastlyCretin no, they did mentioned it in Bad friends as well. (During khylaila ep)

[@FettyMercury]

45:52 I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time. I’m crying. Love this podcast. Happy birthday Jules!!

[@cynthiasalinas2118]

Love having Pete’s laugh on the Pod, sincerely, Pete’s laugh’s biggest fan! ❤

[@kid9472]

Pete as a whole , rolls with the punches and is chill during the pod. An irreplaceable bad friend , glad that destiny lead him there.

[@ASHsor]

Weird

[@nativeaider707]

I like Pete but his laugh has nothing on The Homeless Pimp.

[@cynthiasalinas2118]

@@nativeaider707 I get that!

[@wassupjg]

he's a good egg

[@carlystevenson950]

A whole house of underdeveloped brains 😆 loved this episode

[@yellowbones]

Rudy's dumbfounded amazement from the number guesses are so fkn hilarious

[@thecrow970]

30 seconds in and I’m dying laughing. Best way to start a Monday ever I love this show

[@juannavia33]

Yo I know right. I rewatched it 3 times 😂

[@ashwilliams2308]

Monday is for BadFriends

[@IStealFries]

Andrew and Bobo saying the numbers at the same time and the astonishment of the two ladies was soooo fucking funny! 😂😂😂

[@junatan25]

Haha! Are they actually guessing or holding up fingers?

[@rhaclarkippi6469]

@@junatan25 andrew is reading bobby for sure but they arent doing any signals

[@IStealFries]

@@junatan25 lol I think Bobby was throwing his fingers up XDD

[@th1sguy494]

@Jonathan Pasagui if you look, Bobby uses his fingers flat on the table at 34:36 . But doesn't play for a bit so the girls wouldn't know

[@blhu_oce]

Unfortunately you can see bobby do it for 2 and 6, the others were cut out :( At least you got a good laugh out of it though! I knew he was up to something when he asked "Are we really?", didn't get to enjoy the bit :'(

[@LondonWater]

I love it when Rudy wines with a high pitched voice🤣🫡 I hope she never stops doing that. I hope she’s still doing it on her 65’th birthday🤣❤️

[@Kabz8]

The telepathic number game was so simple but still had me lmao😂

[@TriedRefusedProductions]

OMG! I never thought I'll get a Laal Singh Chaddha reaction on Bad Friends 😅

[@pearlskis9741]

Hi. Love your works.

[@Dani_London]

I loved it haha. Wish they knew how much of a genius Amir Khan is, one of my favourite Bollywood actors right there!

[@nishant2744]

Never thought you would be here

[@hollowdroid28]

Me too lol 😂

[@Ali_Abidi]

And i never thought I'll see you here bud! Good to know you're a fellow bad friend :)

[@LeeorAlexandra]

It’s so frustrating when they talk about something they’re looking at on the screen but it doesn’t show 😭

[@flavourpunchh]

Agreed!

[@1111Balance]

true! ... Also... Its so satisfying to see your comments on great comedy podcasts XD

[@myztik5716]

Also when they show it once and keep talking about it but never show it again, come on Fancy

[@bathzsaltz]

44:52 is soooo dam wholesome...bobby was dam near in tears watching it again.....and I don't blame him cuz I was myself haha!

[@kibblesnbits3174]

32:00 them guessing numbers and consistently getting it right was probably the best thing I've seen in a long time on a Podcast 😂 Sometimes when you know a best buddy, you KNOW them and their thoughts too

[@dareal5401]

its the fingers signal..

[@BabaShmoogs]

Around since Episode 1 This one was the best for me! I love how this episode showed how Andrew and Bobby are truly connected with each other! So much love from Germany!

[@bladesofbell9489]

Best episode yet !! The number guess after Rudys heartfelt thank you was PERFECT timing

[@itsyaboy4553]

Watch Bobby’s face in the video where Rudy is surprised by her mom. Damn near had me teary eyed

[@hnybrr]

Thank you I didn’t catch that the first time around 🥺

[@MattMusr-kr3el]

It was like McConaughey crying.

[@greengenez2512]

"If you wake up a little earlier, it will be in the light." I almost died laughing.. Thanks for everything.

[@jasminewalsh9465]

Going back and watching the older videos shows how sad Rudy is now .. 😢love seeing her laughing and smiling

[@realaveragegamer3053]

at 5:00, when Rudy says " but you came home early" and Isabella just nods as in you damn right lol

[@JohnMacRae23]

Such a great episode... the number bit was brilliant, Rudy and Isabella were great. There is a real sense of family with everyone.

[@dallwalk]

“If you wake up a little earlier you might see the light” fancy with the murder 😂

[@Thaikuza]

This whole episode was freaking amazing way to start the day.

[@MJ-qh2su]

Every time Andrew and Bobby were in sync with those numbers, I giggled.

[@laurenp1770]

Bobby was extra funny this week. He seems so happy lately! ❤

[@CarlHokie]

Happy birthday, Jules. The podcast is better with you on it. We would never have known about Indian Forrest Gump without you.

[@brittanygrant8884]

AND ET

[@andrewfisk8846]

Absolutly love Tarantinto, but just turned off 2 bears without hesitation as soon as I got the bad friends notification. Best pod out there.

[@nicholashowley3610]

Same here ahaha

[@hakanjonsson9189]

Same here 😂

[@sandmansj3]

for me, 2 Bears is just filler until Bad Friends drops LOL

[@sepulfan02]

I listened this morning before the Bad Friends it was great

[@rileydallaire9923]

Lmao I did the exact same, much rather watch the tarantitos

[@c.twitch8351]

I just broke my orbital bone a few weeks ago and I think I just rebroke it laughing so hard at Bobby & Santino doing the number thing.. omg that was a good bit, wow. 😅

[@krissykatportal]

Omg that must be painful

[@doobieblaze1628]

"If you wake up earlier, you will be in the light" _ Fancy B😂 Legend ❤️

[@Ubiquitous_1]

This episode had me laughing, smiling so hard my cheeks hurt, to crying over the surprise and back to cracking up again. I'm new to the podcast but obsessed now. Marathon watching all the other episodes! And yes, subscribed!

[@1Chatty2Connie3]

Best time of the week!! Thank you, Bad Friends! Happy Birthday Rudy!

[@MsBritanie73]

Bobby you are BEAUTIFUL when you are truly happy. I have ZERO doubt that you are truly happy during this pod bc it radiates in waves. Much funnier too! Keep up what ever it is you've been doing! My best friend & I also thoroughly enjoy not caring about ppl but pretending we do like you and Andrew. 🤣😂

[@lovinlife4212]

I teared up watching Rudy be surprised🥺🥺 happy birthday girl

[@MercifulExorcist]

This is the most upbeat and happy episode I’ve listened to and seen. Bobby looks happy

[@autumnmarie9091]

Happy Birthday Rudy 🎂 🥳 🎉 🎈 🎁 🎊 Happy Monday to all my bad friends 😎

[@mikechavez4020]

Jules and her sisters reaction to the guys getting the numbers perfectly one of the best moments ever I have a feeling frenchy's behind it though somehow

[@bobbygalyon5580]

Nope you can clearly see them use their fingers to cue each other through the episode, rudy was right but she couldnt see it from her angle, we could though lmao

[@EnjoyTheChaos]

What about at the end with their eyes closed?

[@bobbygalyon5580]

@@EnjoyTheChaos they used thier fingers before they closed their eyes, omg you people are blind you can even see them do it multiple times during the episode. Youre as gullible as jules but she has an excuse because she cant see the angle theyre showing their fingers to each other but we can lmao

[@mikechavez4020]

Idc was still funny as hell

[@lisaspencer1057]

@@bobbygalyon5580dude. Who hurt you? That was over aggressive for someone making an innocent comment. Do you need a hug or something?

[@christianholm4725]

Best podcast in the comedy scene no comparison. Love you guys been a fan for 4 years and the comedic chemistry between Andrew and Bobby is my favorite and it just keeps getting even better.

[@theskatebard9580]

The synchronicity made this one of the best episodes of the whole show.

[@kartikasukmatullahi3867]

I had bad day at work and this podcast definitely changes my mood. This episode is so funny. Please keep Rudy in the podcast. she is the best!!

[@buddhasoul]

I couldn't love a podcast more than I love Bad Friends!!

[@LivingRegal]

Bobby and Andrew doing hand gestures for that numbers game is hilarious

[@verynick]

They hid their hands at one point though lol

[@fashionluvr15]

@@verynick Andrew held up the number before they hid their hands

[@Arunpreet12]

ONE OF THE BEST EPISODES , IVE HAD A ROUGH YEAR BUT THINGS ARE FINALLY STARTING TO TURN AROUND FINALLY , NEVER GIVE UP , THE DARKNESS DOES FADE!!

[@AdamSmith-rp9ej]

The number guessing game was hilarious! Im sure Andrew and Bobby were messing with the girls 😆

[@NickPR87]

Bobby and Andrew's legitimate astonishment at the reasoning for Isa's friend moving to North America was comedy gold!🤣

[@Vespyr_]

31:58 Now THIS is why this show is so good. Andrew and Bobby are SO in sync! That's amazing! 😂

[@moneyhoney606]

God damn what a great episode. I don't think I'll ever stop watching this podcast.

[@mariasimental6994]

We need to have Rudy on whiskey ginger now that she can drink and by the way happy birthday Rudy keep up the good work❤ 🎉🎉🎉

[@Betty-Boop809]

Lol, that might be too similar to the Sofie Franklin episode 😂

[@JimNortonsAlcoholism]

@@Betty-Boop809 No way. Rudy has way more of a personality. Check her out on the Jeremy Watkings pod

[@btran3206]

I was impressed every time they called out the numbers, I didn't want them to mess up. I watched it back and saw them using their fingers every time except the last two times 😂Still a great bit. Great Episode!

[@WilliamBrowning]

I suspect Fancy fed them those two on their headphones. It was all well executed tho. Had me going for a minute.

[@btran3206]

@@WilliamBrowning Either that or they were signaling from their booth 😉

[@getyouwright8070]

"If you wake up a little earlier you will be in the light "😂 best comment of the episode

[@ypesh]

11:11 man this is too good! I missed this podcast.

[@tywilson2948]

Bad friends has become my favorite podcast to watch😂 I’ve even been watching all the older ones and still dying of laughter

[@justinezuniga8487]

Bobby crying during the coming home video had me crying 💙

[@Godeias]

Andrew and Bobby saying the same number was so wholesome and why I love this show.

[@DrrAwkwArrD]

That Rudy surprise video was so wholesome 🥲

[@Panjam-]

The 14 year old is the most mature person there lol

[@bishoponeye4223]

Don't shake your head we are trying to win this argument 🤣💀

[@koolaidmarcus]

Fancy got my hardest laugh right at the end there lmao

[@Steelermill]

That was funny as fuck

[@Prof_J_Bird]

Such a great episode! I was crying from laughter during Bobby's Forest Gump bit. Which was awkward, considering the fact that I was greeted by weird looks from my co-workers at the office while I was "working" 😅🤣

[@omarjimenez4448]

It was hilarious how it derailed the podcast for a moment

[@marcus3jankowski]

46:22 you can see Andrew showing Bobby the number. Great job hiding it from Jules as he’s distracting her and then they put the hands behind the back. 👏 BRAVO!!!!

[@joshualopez8650]

I love these boys they tickle my insides in the most pleasurable way

[@SwMexican]

30 seconds in and I’m dying of laughter already!! Going to be a good Monday lol

[@heeeeeem8520]

I thought u said good to be on Mandy lol

[@Matt-bz8te]

Mondays are my favorite day simply because of this hilarious pod. Thanks for the laughs guys!

[@7themp323]

Happy Birthday Jules!!! Isa is awesome and she seems extremely outgoing from the jump. Would love to see her and Juicy on the same episode. Another great episode!!!

[@TheCarnivorousLimbo]

ya’ll need to hire Matt as a regular on the show, I like him. When Rudy graduates it can be Andrew, Bobby, and Matt.

[@D3adKruzer]

“I did meth at 11” had me in tears!! omg the things this podcast has me laughing at.

[@BethennyBreyelle]

Does anybody remember the episode where Andrew goes off joking about how he'd punch Chevy Chase in the face? It was one of the funniest bits and I've been rewatching every episode trying to find it.

[@saucyruben]

that sounds hilarious

[@DallasMavs81]

That wasn't a bit it's on sight

[@jimmyli4771]

it was an episode with juicy. thats all i remember

[@tonybragassa6855]

Link?

[@UFCresultsweekly]

Episode 31

[@taylordowell5669]

The numbers game was hilarious. Step-brothers style.

[@Samptamp8698]

Kinda random but, I’d love to see Michael MacDonald on the podcast! Genuinely feel like he was the anchor of MadTV for so many years and he is one of the most underrated comedic actors of all time. Maybe Bobby and him still have a connection? Hopefully they can make it happen!

[@derrickd3627]

The numbers thing was absolute gold

[@davawnbrown5318]

Bobby and Andrew saying the same number at the same exact time has me rolling 🤣🤣🤣

[@ericmarshall8413]

I love how insulted bobby always gets about cards and gifts, especially since he's the worst person for remembering them.

[@brycestanhope2258]

😅😅😅pop😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@zapandabear]

he doesn't need a card....she and khalyla been leeching off of him for years