Rule 41: The Ablative of Separation

[@JimOverbeckgenius]

A few months ago I met an Italian Latin teacher & mentioned Catullus, Virgil et al. He insisted that Petronius was essential for knowing Roman genius. Two days ago walking in the local Ligurian countryside there was an elderly lady reading a book & I mentioned to her I was struggling with Carmina 97. She remarked Why on earth are you reading sordid literature!? & I ask what she was reading. Answer: a book on Petronius! So please include his Latin in your excellent videos if possible??

[@beeeb8831]

Thanks for all your work. I am following this video pretty well but it does take some concentrated attention. I can't remember this amount of detail when I was plowing through Whitlocks in high school but I wasn't paying too much attention at times. I found my old high school textbook and the chapter on the subjunctive, with notes dated February, is full of doodles of hearts and cupids.

[@RoverBlasto]

Made me a list of the 1:30 , I was searching for such a compilation of titles for the dative and ablative rules.

[@latintutorial]

There are more, but these are the biggest ones. I think when I’m done with the 91 rules, I’ll make an extra set of the most important rules that I didn’t cover!

[@alisatoniian9718]

@@latintutorial please do!!!

[@Russellm07]

Learned the other day that Quechua has like 20 cases! Imagine a different case ending for each use of the ablative.

[@Fry09294]

Nothing strange to Uralic speakers lol

[@edwardmiessner6502]

Thanks for making these. I have a question: From _Anthologia Latina_ 415.23-24: Noxius infami districtus stipite membra Sperat et a fixa posse redire cruce The criminal, members outstretched by the infamous stake, hopes also to be able to return from [his] piercing with the cross.* *cruciform torture-stake Do I have rhis right? "fixa" is either: 1 ) a supine perfect tense verb in the feminine singular ablative, or 2 ) an adjective singular feminine ablative. And "cruce" is clearly instrumental ablative to me otherwise it would be "in cruce". "From a fixed cross" otoh doesn't seem to make sense to me because the criminal is not necessarily fixed with nails but may be fixed on/with an acuta crux.

[@rugbybeef]

Wouldn't this be consistent with the genitive for the Ovid example? "the cow freed of his curved plow"

[@Channel-zb1fi]

3:01. Why is it was, when the tense is present and not imperfect. Should the sentence, "I was deprived of my gifts" not be, donis privatus eram.

[@GIITW.5OKC]

How much of a task would it be to not know these & still learn the language? I can tell you it's not that best.. anywho thanks for the vid even if I don't understand it..

[@latintutorial]

Well, the thing is that Latin uses cases where many modern languages use prepositions (like “from”, “with”, “to”, “for”). So while it’s definitely not essential to know all the specific uses of the ablative, you need to be familiar with what these cases mean. The context clues that we are used to with modern languages just aren’t there for Latin. So my main end goal here is to put up enough description of how the cases are used to make it more natural for an English speaker. Do you need to know that a certain word is an “ablative of separation” rather than an “ablative of cause”? Not at all. But should you know what the ablative case can show? Definitely. And so I hope that these videos are presented more in a style that *explores* how, say, the ablative can show separation, rather than a style that says that this is something that *must* be memorized.

[@KDJi399s9cd0]

thanks, you are awesome!

[@theophonchana5025]

#ablative #ablative_case #case #grammatical_case

[@olekTV2000]

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