Rulers Who Were Actually Good - History Hijinks

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3 жыл бұрын

History is full of Rulers, but most of them (especially some famous ones) can be Kind Of Terrible upon closer inspection. So let's take a look at two kings we can actually consider to be Good - not perfect, not blameless, but a heck of a lot more virtuous than the average ruler, that's for sure.
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SOURCES & Further Reading: The Great Courses Plus lectures "Being Persian" by Robert Garland, "The Persian Era" by Jean-Pierre Isbouts, "Saladin: Chivalry and Conquest - 1187" by Eamonn Gearon, and "Saladin and the Defeat of the Crusaders" by Dorsey Armstrong.
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@Cianuro26
@Cianuro26 3 жыл бұрын
People in those times: "Amazing conqueror. Very tactic yet respectful. Five stars. Would get conquered again"
@flaviocatarino4328
@flaviocatarino4328 2 жыл бұрын
@Omega Abuzar he truly already has conquered our hearts
@ciphergacha9100
@ciphergacha9100 2 жыл бұрын
@@flaviocatarino4328 YES
@burnerdaughter
@burnerdaughter 2 жыл бұрын
I want to share this video with my loved ones just so I can show them this comment. Made my day. Thanks
@greenredblue
@greenredblue 2 жыл бұрын
People nowadays: He attacc He protecc But always Earn respecc
@Cara-39
@Cara-39 11 ай бұрын
😂😂
@Taylor-mn9fv
@Taylor-mn9fv 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about Saladin is that contemporary Europeans thought he was so awesome they wrote fanfictions about him and Richard the Lionheart meeting and having chivalrous duels.
@Ajvt-ux4ec
@Ajvt-ux4ec 2 жыл бұрын
🥵
@samuelthegreatoo
@samuelthegreatoo 2 жыл бұрын
Dante put Saladin in the circle of hell that the virtuous pagans went to. And this is the guy who conquered Jerusalem. That is MAD props for the guy.
@MapleLeaf2501
@MapleLeaf2501 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelthegreatoo Yep, when the greatest work of self-insert fanfiction (where an still living pope was sent to one of the deepest levels of hell) has you down as "Except for the not being Catholic bit, real stand out guy" you know you were cool.
@MxCAT7
@MxCAT7 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that my brain went, "chivalrous duels", is that what the kids are calling it these days, immediately says a helluva lot about the type of fanfiction I read...
@LmaoMoni
@LmaoMoni 2 жыл бұрын
“Chivalrous duels” with what their swords 👀🥵🥴
@thebighurt2495
@thebighurt2495 2 жыл бұрын
Cyrus: "Ok, here's the deal, I'll let you keep your religion, culture, language even local rulers." Locals: "What's the catch?" Cyrus: "Pay some taxes and don't rebel." Locals: "And?" Cyrus: "That's it." Locals: "What." Cyrus: "What?"
@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273
@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273 Жыл бұрын
Similar to islamic jiza
@DLCS-2
@DLCS-2 Жыл бұрын
​@@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273 not exactly
@enoch9468
@enoch9468 10 ай бұрын
@@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273 lol hell no
@benlowe1701
@benlowe1701 10 ай бұрын
​@@enoch9468 I mean it's not dissimilar. The difference is that Cyrus expect the same of his people regardless of their religion and culture. The Islamic Caliphates expected one or the other: military service or tax. Dont forget the Jizya tax wasnt collected on people who wouldn't have been eligible for military service. Women didn't pay it at all. Nor did children, orphans, cripples, the mentally ill, elders or slaves. Nor, somewhat importantly, did priests, monks or hermits. Or visitors, like pilgrims or guests. It wasn't a punishment for practicing a Non-Islamic faith. The Jizya tax was perceived as an alternative to military service. Christian's living under Islamic rule were seen as essentially paying to opt out of their other obligations. The tax persisted under Ottoman rule but was eventually abolished because so many *Muslims* wanted to pay it rather than serve in the Sultans Armies, and thought it was unfair on *them* that their Non-Islamic nieghbours enjoyed the same privileges with fewer obligations except a monthly tax. It wouldn't be any more unethical than a tax break for veterans.
@IsaiahRichards692
@IsaiahRichards692 10 ай бұрын
That’s still a pretty shitty deal! You’re submitting to a faraway ruler, not because you chose him but, because he’ll kill you if you don’t. Taxes can be literally anything, even food, animals and people and the foreign ruler can steal all your men and force them into military service!
@Precambrian-Rabbit
@Precambrian-Rabbit 3 жыл бұрын
"Our protagonist... was born Yusuf ibin Ayub..." These names are typically rendered in English as "Joseph" and "Job". So for those of you keeping track, Saladin was, in fact, a JoJo.
@carbonmonteroy
@carbonmonteroy 3 жыл бұрын
A JoJo in Egypt no less
@Fisinocean
@Fisinocean 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, so thats why he's so cool
@user-jn7rz9ew2l
@user-jn7rz9ew2l 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fisinocean no u're getting it all wrong it is why are the jojos cool
@shanedoesyoutube8001
@shanedoesyoutube8001 3 жыл бұрын
First we have Muhammad Avdol And then TIL there was an actual historical Muhammad Avdol in the form of Saladin. Like... What the jahannam (hell) is the meaning of this??? This is bullshit
@marckevinjavier1897
@marckevinjavier1897 3 жыл бұрын
I guess we know where Jonathan gets his good manners from
@orangejuice8339
@orangejuice8339 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao Cyrus was like if bob ross was a kindergarten teacher managing A LOT of children. “Alright Timmy let’s put the statues back where they’re happier hmm?”
@temakong595
@temakong595 3 жыл бұрын
Omg yes I love it imagine Bob Ross greetings you everyday or calming you down when you trip and fall
@ArkadiBolschek
@ArkadiBolschek 3 жыл бұрын
He did Feng Shui before it was cool.
@Borderose
@Borderose 3 жыл бұрын
I giggled imagining Cyrus as Bob Ross. "Let's make some happy little gods, alright?"
@thomaskole9881
@thomaskole9881 3 жыл бұрын
@@Borderose now, right here we're gonna make some nice roads for some of that happy little trade
@Borderose
@Borderose 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomaskole9881 "Oops. Conquered your kingdom. Oh, well. Let's consider this a happy little accident and cover that up by...yeah...nice...just a little. Ah, there. Done. Let's cover that up by actually treating your people right and making sure their kings give them some very nice days. Oh, look! I think we can put a lovely temple here. I'm sure that's gonna make a lot of folks and their god happy. Let's all be friends now."
@joeevans5770
@joeevans5770 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would happen if a king faced with a prophecy of his doom at the hands of a child DIDN'T try to kill the child
@Nazuiko
@Nazuiko 3 жыл бұрын
Well it almost worked for Cyrus' gpa. dude seemed genre savvy enough to spare 10 year old Cyrus but uhhh... guess it still didnt work out.
@animeotaku307
@animeotaku307 3 жыл бұрын
“This child shall one day take your rightful throne from you!” “Yeah? That’s my grandson. Let’s face it; I’m not going to live forever and someone’s gotta take over for me. Doesn’t take a prophecy to know that’s probably going to be one of my descendants. Now get out before I have you tried for trying to pull a fast one on me, you charlatan.”
@Punaparta
@Punaparta 3 жыл бұрын
"Another End of the Empire" by Tim Pratt.
@SonofSethoitae
@SonofSethoitae 3 жыл бұрын
@@animeotaku307 Keep in mind that Cyrus was not a direct, male-line successor to Astyages. He wouldn't have inherited the throne had he not risen up in revolt.
@Nostripe361
@Nostripe361 3 жыл бұрын
@@SonofSethoitae wasn’t this the same legend where the king killed, cook, and fed the son of one of his generals to his father. The same father who betrayed the king at the worst moment?
@philipmccrevis3678
@philipmccrevis3678 3 жыл бұрын
Saladin telling his soldiers not to disturb the newlyweds in the tower at the battle of Kerak: "Professionals have STANDARDS"
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter Жыл бұрын
"Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet."
@MeliesCinemagician
@MeliesCinemagician 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite stories about Saladin actually has to do with his death. The guy gave so much of his own money away to charity that there was practically nothing left to pay for his own funeral.
@xhagast
@xhagast 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot take it with you. The poor benefited and the people must have wept at the thought. His heirs got his kingdom so no need to worry about THEM.
@shamanisar1469
@shamanisar1469 3 жыл бұрын
@@xhagast seems obvious doesn't it, that you can't take your worldly riches with you after death ? But you would be surprised (Not really) how many rulers hoarded their wealth like Smaug until their dying breath.
@dumpsockpuppet5619
@dumpsockpuppet5619 3 жыл бұрын
@@xhagast somebody should've told the Egyptians... Or the chinese...or the...
@Fisinocean
@Fisinocean 3 жыл бұрын
@@dumpsockpuppet5619 shh let them rest in their oversized tomb filled with ancient relics, the archaelogs need to feed their family dammit
@lightingskies5008
@lightingskies5008 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair the Egyptians thought they will wake again in the after life and use those stuff
@valritz1489
@valritz1489 3 жыл бұрын
Cyrus is one of those figures where even conquered nations who rebelled against the Persian Empire would point back to and go "We're leaving because you're not like this guy!"
@AB-dm1wz
@AB-dm1wz 3 жыл бұрын
What are you saying?
@clayxros576
@clayxros576 3 жыл бұрын
@@AB-dm1wz Subjugated nations revolted because the leader at that time wasnt like the leader prior. More heavyhanded, neglectful, greedier, take your pick.
@MasterOfCydonia
@MasterOfCydonia 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, to make things more interesting, there was never a revolt against Cyrus or his son, and only after Darius the Great's usurpation of the throne did revolts against the Achaemenid Emprie even happen.
@asteisdrakos
@asteisdrakos 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterOfCydonia Darius: finally, I have taken hold of one of the greatest powers on Earth! This will be a cinch! Persia: no- bad Darius- we want the other guys back-
@classicaid
@classicaid 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, wasn't Darius the still good guy while Cambyses the bad guy?
@dylanchouinard6141
@dylanchouinard6141 3 жыл бұрын
I now imagine Cyrus sending all the gods/peoples to different areas and asking them if this place sparks joy
@alysonsinkie9296
@alysonsinkie9296 3 жыл бұрын
literally made me cackle
@jasonreed7522
@jasonreed7522 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that mental image
@dylanchouinard6141
@dylanchouinard6141 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonreed7522 you’re welcome
@confusedquark826
@confusedquark826 3 жыл бұрын
Emperor Marie Kondo
@R-H-B
@R-H-B 3 жыл бұрын
“This god sparks joy” “This god does not spark joy”
@piculra7441
@piculra7441 3 жыл бұрын
Not only did the Bible say that Cyrus was a pretty great guy, he's also the only non-Jewish person to be titled as a Messiah. As for Saladin, he was great and chivalrous. Richard the Lionheart was too. 2 great rulers who respected each other despite the war between them.
@the_tactician9858
@the_tactician9858 Жыл бұрын
Calling RtL a great ruler is a stretch, as a king he did nothing other than his (failed) crusade, but he was chivalrous without a doubt.
@coh2conscript851
@coh2conscript851 Жыл бұрын
@@the_tactician9858 Didn't he take over the english? That's a plus for everyone in Europe.
@ATemplarIGuess
@ATemplarIGuess Жыл бұрын
@@coh2conscript851 no, that was Another French Noble, Richard Inherited England and also half of France and then went to go punch some egyptian dude
@coh2conscript851
@coh2conscript851 Жыл бұрын
@@ATemplarIGuess aw, that's what it was then
@brianaguila6925
@brianaguila6925 Жыл бұрын
Cyrus the great be like: okay, i will not force my religious beliefs and culture with you, if you want to be a follower then okay . In fact, I'll let you return to your lands if you want but just remember:pay your taxes, don't rebel and were good.
@sabiangriffin3713
@sabiangriffin3713 3 жыл бұрын
Saladin is meme lord 100. Not only did let the newlyweds go at it in the tower, he also scolded Raynald. And then chopped his head off. What a guy
@yiwoon_cr8s
@yiwoon_cr8s 3 жыл бұрын
😎 Yep hes definitely born cool and raised cool
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 3 жыл бұрын
Chopped his head off for refusing to convert*
@foundation2854
@foundation2854 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 Correction: Chopped his head off for being a complete jerk. Even the other Christians thought he was a jerk.
@amalbackerfysal1821
@amalbackerfysal1821 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 he did not request the king to convert did he Raynald was a jackass who wanted to annoy Saladin by disrupting caravans
@slaire7799
@slaire7799 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 idk killing multiple innocent groups of caravans minding their own business seems befitting for a beheading no
@TheNekoGentleman
@TheNekoGentleman 3 жыл бұрын
Saladin heard a wedding happened in a castle and his first action was to order to not disturb the couple. "let this be a Fornication Under the Consent of an Sultan."
@sars910
@sars910 3 жыл бұрын
I mean they were married. So it wasn't fornication. More like Saladin being a total bro and not disturbing their honeymoon.
@walterworrall
@walterworrall 3 жыл бұрын
An sultan
@03.ximipa3ahmadrinofarosmu3
@03.ximipa3ahmadrinofarosmu3 3 жыл бұрын
The s is silent
@walterworrall
@walterworrall 3 жыл бұрын
@@03.ximipa3ahmadrinofarosmu3 😜🤝😸
@Raleyg
@Raleyg 3 жыл бұрын
Try King Eystein of Norway. Not only did the guy build harbors, mountain inns and churches while his brother was out crusading, he was also a therapist for his own bodyguards
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 3 жыл бұрын
Was it because the bodyguards possibly have their own mental health issues?
@Raleyg
@Raleyg 3 жыл бұрын
@@SlapstickGenius23 Yup. One of the bodyguards apparently had some mental problems. So Eystein offered to talk with him about it, and that actually helped
@cloudylemon2975
@cloudylemon2975 2 жыл бұрын
As a Norwegian this makes me proud
@makingmanga2972
@makingmanga2972 2 жыл бұрын
King:So She's not happy with you? Guard:Yes D': King:There There
@BritishRepublicsn
@BritishRepublicsn 2 жыл бұрын
Gigachad
@matttanner462
@matttanner462 3 жыл бұрын
The interesting part about Saladin is that he's actually more remembered in the west than in the middle east, specifically because he left such an impact on the crusader kings that he fought
@savioblanc
@savioblanc 3 жыл бұрын
Correct. The person more famous in the Middle East is Sultan Baibars, who finished off the Crusader kingdoms and sold off all the Christians, that didnt escape, to the slave markets. Plus, as a Kurd, Saladin wasn't exactly gonna be loved by a population of Arabs
@LordKhuzdul
@LordKhuzdul 3 жыл бұрын
One reason for that is because his heirs shit the bed rather quickly, so Ayyubids do not amount to much, just a speedbump between the more significant Fatimids and Mamluks. He himself is the only real notable of his dynasty.
@ZZaman-px9rg
@ZZaman-px9rg 2 жыл бұрын
? This is not true and I don't really know where you pulled this information from. Salah Al Deen is well known in the Arab world. I'd say in terms of individual rulers past the initial caliphate him and Mohammad the conqueror are the most popular.
@ibrodinho
@ibrodinho 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZZaman-px9rg Correct.
@lightingskies5008
@lightingskies5008 2 жыл бұрын
Actually here in Egypt people LOVE and RESPECT him very much
@loganb7059
@loganb7059 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the British later named an Armored Car after Saladin. (The Alvis Saladin.) If there is an afterlife, that’s got to feel pretty cool to have your former adversary respect you so much they name a (from your point of view) self powered metal chariot that shoots explosions after you.
@femboyskeleton9150
@femboyskeleton9150 Жыл бұрын
Of course the British being the British they then used said armoured cars to oppress the people of the British colonies, the Saladin's in particular were used a lot here in Ireland, they're even mentioned in our rebel songs...
@m_uz1244
@m_uz1244 Жыл бұрын
They probably used those in the Suez Crisis in Egypt now that I think about it which must've been pretty funny
@michaelramon2411
@michaelramon2411 Жыл бұрын
"If there is an afterlife" - Dante put Saladin in the First Circle of Hell, which is a generally nice place where the cool non-Christians like the Greek philosophers got to go. So some people have definitely felt that way.
@thomasallred3003
@thomasallred3003 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this become a 10 part series, but I doubt history will be so kind.
@davidcollins9213
@davidcollins9213 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have any friends because they are ashamed of the videos I upload. Are they really that bad, dear tom
@notzaran5977
@notzaran5977 3 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku you probably dont because you act like a beggar and they might be embarassed of being near you
@stevedaguy9639
@stevedaguy9639 3 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku no offense, but I checked your channel and your friends are kinda in the right here. Your videos aren’t bad persay, it’s just like, imagine being friends with someone who moonlights as a low level supervillain.
@7llama770
@7llama770 3 жыл бұрын
Talking about history in the future tense made me laugh for some reason lol
@VivaLaDnDLogs
@VivaLaDnDLogs 3 жыл бұрын
"Achaemenid Like A Wrecking Ball" I didn't think it was possible, but you just did it. You just won Historical Comedy for All Time.
@jk-gb4et
@jk-gb4et 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@VashdaCrash
@VashdaCrash 3 жыл бұрын
I just got that joke , "icameinlikea..."
@Entropy114
@Entropy114 3 жыл бұрын
And it's during a segment on CYRUS. Damn Blue (or whoever added that joke in post) that's some layered humor.
@jk-gb4et
@jk-gb4et 3 жыл бұрын
@@Entropy114 woah
@rainmanslim4611
@rainmanslim4611 3 жыл бұрын
Saladin was smart, he knew that if he continued the denial of christian pilgrims to the holy lands, the crusades would just happen again and again and again, and any good tactician knows that it can be hard to differentiate genius with luck and incompetent adversaries and that even a genius can make a collossal mistake against another great tactician, and that is a chance Saladin would be unlikely to make. by granting access to christian pilgrims to the holy land not only had he made the land richer because these pilgrims would be buying stuff like supplies and lodging and trinkets to take back home, but he also helped to secure it by addressing arguably the chief concern that motivated the crusaders to invade in the first place.
@jamabashir9134
@jamabashir9134 Жыл бұрын
Yet, It took them only a decade to start another crusade and 25 years to land an army on the levant.
@brianwashedhunter1150
@brianwashedhunter1150 Жыл бұрын
But the crusaders were stupid anyway And did recaptured Jerusalem again But then the mumlek Egypt took it back but this time with all the Christian/European kingdoms in the middle easd
@rudelwolf1591
@rudelwolf1591 Жыл бұрын
though to be fair, while it was the reason that was told to the common people, before the first crusade, christians were very much allowed into jerusalem, because the muslims didn't saw a reason to keep them out as long as they were only there to pray. the real reason for the first crusade was the fact that byzantine got all their eastern lands taken away and feared for the muslims to also take constantinople, so they asked the pope to help them retake their former lands so that they could continue to be a bullwark. the pope at the time used this to spin a pr campaign about how the muslims killed every christian who tried to go to jerusalem, and called for a holy war, which the byzantines very much did not ask for. so, as it happens so often in history, centuries of war get kicked off by one small person deciding that they need more power.
@randomfuck4869
@randomfuck4869 3 ай бұрын
thats not what thtat was about we are not allowed to deny other monotheists pilgrimage to the holy land
@BlitzkriegMinecraft
@BlitzkriegMinecraft 3 жыл бұрын
"A king does not kill a king. Were you not close enough to a great one, to learn by his example?"
@Kecapsoya
@Kecapsoya 3 жыл бұрын
I recognize That line from Kingdom of Heaven maybe?
@josephperez2004
@josephperez2004 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, a pretty good movie overall.
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephperez2004 The Director's Cut is way better than the Theatrical Cut.
@josephperez2004
@josephperez2004 2 жыл бұрын
@@fernandozavaletabustos205 Hmm, will need to see if I can find that some time. I wouldn't mind just seeing the same version again, so one with extra scenes added is definitely of interest.
@templarw20
@templarw20 Жыл бұрын
@@josephperez2004 Agreed. Not factually accurate, but pretty thematically accurate. Saladin killing Reynard was right out of the history books...
@jjohansen86
@jjohansen86 3 жыл бұрын
Saladin: Your stepdad is the worst and I'm trying to take him out. Order the siege! Also Saladin: Wait, you got married?! Look, I'm not going to mess up your wedding night, I'm not a monster!
@Nitram4392
@Nitram4392 2 жыл бұрын
"Professionals have standards!" - The Sniper.
@ahsanmukhtar4254
@ahsanmukhtar4254 2 жыл бұрын
XD he was like, ma boy is getting laid tonight, I'm not gonna get in the way of that, no man should die a virgin. lol
@lugiasimply6054
@lugiasimply6054 2 жыл бұрын
Just saying that Saladin wasn't universally praised. He was, and still is, called by Shi'ites, "Kharab al-Din", meaning "Destroyer of the Religion". This was opposed to "Salah al-Din", meaning "Righteousness of the Religion". Some of the Isma'il Shi'ites even believe that Al-Adid, the last Fatimid Caliph in which Saladin deposed, is going to personally help God on judgement day.
@R.J._Lewis
@R.J._Lewis Жыл бұрын
Total bro. "I know we've got a war going on outside of here, but you're in there knocking boots. I'm not gonna cock-block you, so we'll just have our war stuff going on around your boot-knockin."
@necromemer9523
@necromemer9523 Жыл бұрын
@@Nitram4392 there's being tyrant, and then there's just being a jerk
@alasdairmontgomery1760
@alasdairmontgomery1760 3 жыл бұрын
Procrastinating an essay has never been so informative
@Rainears129
@Rainears129 3 жыл бұрын
OSP's channel in a nutshell.
@SanaTT
@SanaTT 3 жыл бұрын
hopefully you finished the essay 😁
@omarhossam3791
@omarhossam3791 3 жыл бұрын
🔫 go fo your essay
@AnaSofia-xe2wg
@AnaSofia-xe2wg 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@LighthawkTenchi
@LighthawkTenchi 2 жыл бұрын
That’s actually pretty humorous that Saladin, while besieging a castle, was polite enough to make sure the happy couple were able to get down to business with one another in the tower. He had plenty of beef with the stepdad, but he wasn’t about to ruin the groom’s evening.
@LittleBitVic
@LittleBitVic 3 жыл бұрын
"Be strong! Strong like Salah ad-Din!" from an Assassin's Creed NPC was clearly mistranslated. The actual translation is, "Be chill! Chill like Salah ad-Din!"
@TheHowlingEye
@TheHowlingEye 2 жыл бұрын
an a dictator in the original sense, being pretty much in the situation of a mother minding her bussines and chillin and then hearing her child be like 'MOOOOOOOOOM hEeEeEeLp!', no wonder if he retired to the countryside
@olivierblais-turcotte2841
@olivierblais-turcotte2841 3 жыл бұрын
OSP's Cyrus: "let's be friends everyone 😊 I just want to make my subjects happy!" Civ 6's Cyrus: "have you heard about something called a Suprise War?"
@Carewolf
@Carewolf 3 жыл бұрын
I think Civ variant is based on the insane 300 Cyrus.
@valritz1489
@valritz1489 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of Cyrus' great successes are less Civ and more Europa Universalis. Appealing to the priesthood of Marduk to overthrow their king because he's trying to dump the entire temple budget into his historical mooncrush would be a weird victory condition.
@Mellion555
@Mellion555 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, with Civ 6 Saladin: "Hey, wanna have a bunch of trade routes and and really good Trade Offers with each other while everyone else is busy being assholes?" No joke, in one game me and Saladin spawned as the only 2 nations on a continent with each other and formed a merchant empire together while the other AI players were literally killing each other on the other continent. Good times.
@NoName-he5ri
@NoName-he5ri 3 жыл бұрын
No. Because I'm never surprised.
@RealmRabbit
@RealmRabbit 3 жыл бұрын
Civ 5's Gandhi: "Come at me! I've got my trigger finger ready on the nuclear missiles!"
@cuanchulainn
@cuanchulainn 3 жыл бұрын
"if youre gonna be an authoritarian at least be a nice one" - Blue, today's video
@SomeCrusader
@SomeCrusader 3 жыл бұрын
That quote goes against EVERYTHING I do in stragety games.
@Hypogean7
@Hypogean7 3 жыл бұрын
@@SomeCrusader It only takes about 3 hours in any strategy game to totally understand why rulers turn authoritarian.
@DrMonty-ng5fo
@DrMonty-ng5fo 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, Blue is 100% correct. It turns out that being nice to people makes them less likely to rebel and cut off your head. Shocking, I know.
@Hypogean7
@Hypogean7 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrMonty-ng5fo But it's not so easy when evryone around you have other agendas.
@shiakou5262
@shiakou5262 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh, I do that in Empire Total War too. Locals getting rowdy and ready to rebel? Build Theaters! Catholics getting in my protestant cities and protestants getting in my catholic cities? Build Theaters! Just conquered a new city and they don't like my face? Theaters, theaters, theaters! Mr. Hamilton might be more amenable to British rule if he could just sit down and watch Hamilton.
@thealmightyaku-4153
@thealmightyaku-4153 3 жыл бұрын
There's a disturbing lack of Marcus Aurelius and Dom Pedro II here... Also, the chivalrous bromance between arch-frenemies Richard Lionheart and Saladin would make an excellent video all on its own.
@templarw20
@templarw20 Жыл бұрын
If Richard and Saladin had actually met... If Richard's proposal to marry their two families together as part of a peace treaty had been a real thing...
@thealmightyaku-4153
@thealmightyaku-4153 Жыл бұрын
@@templarw20 A huge what-if of history that I haven't seen anyone explore
@leeh4669
@leeh4669 Жыл бұрын
@templarw20 i’m now picturing them just hanging out, cracking dad jokes… somehow both of them have the same sense of humor of phil on modern family lol
@jdcsiahaan
@jdcsiahaan 7 ай бұрын
Dom Pedro II should definitely be up there. Also, here in Indonesia, we also have the story of Sri Sultan Hamengkubuwono IX, ruler of the Sultanate of Yogyakarta and later Governor of the Yogyakarta Special Region Province. he was a great ruler who masterfully navigated the complicated time he was in. directed the people in his kingdom to public works that would support local agriculture (the Selokan Mataram/Mataram Canal project) so that his people doesn't have to be forced labors (Romusha) during the Japanese occupation; provided his city, Yogyakarta, as the emergency capital for the newly-formed Indonesian government which was driven away from Jakarta/Batavia; formulated and led a campaign to retake Yogyakarta from Dutch hands (General Offensive of 1 March 1949) after it was taken away by the Dutch in 1948; provided his palace as the first campus for Indonesia's first public university, Universitas Gadjah Mada; and submitted his sultanate under the Republican government, which eventually led to the Republican government recognizing Yogyakarta as a Special Region, with the Sultans being governors of Yogyakarta. all around a great guy, and very much loved by his people
@johnpancho6586
@johnpancho6586 3 жыл бұрын
We NEED this to be a series As Mr Rogers would say, quoting his mom, "Always look for the helpers"
@Nurat170
@Nurat170 3 жыл бұрын
Basically rule one for rulers. Remember you're ruling a bunch of individuals not a bunch of numbers on a tablet.
@kayeka4123
@kayeka4123 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not!
@Klishar122
@Klishar122 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how many people forget that!
@kroposman2302
@kroposman2302 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, a great *number* of individuals. The key here is to recognize that those numbers consist of individuals with life of their own.
@adamiqmal9627
@adamiqmal9627 3 жыл бұрын
You know how they say, a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic
@tntguardian6455
@tntguardian6455 3 жыл бұрын
3:40 that joke works even better when you think that the singer was Miley CYRUS
@grahamturner2640
@grahamturner2640 3 жыл бұрын
How? 🤔
@dawsondebell1603
@dawsondebell1603 3 жыл бұрын
@@grahamturner2640 If Madonna was at the prestigious top of the Pop music culture, then at some point Miley Cyrus would succeed to the top for a while.
@user-ge8yn4ql4i
@user-ge8yn4ql4i 3 жыл бұрын
@@dawsondebell1603 Miley ushering in a two hundred year reign of pop is an interesting thought. :3
@dotdimitrix3876
@dotdimitrix3876 3 жыл бұрын
@@grahamturner2640 The last name.
@dawsondebell1603
@dawsondebell1603 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ge8yn4ql4i First Decree: Mandatory Crop Tops for all genders and or taped nipples with your birthday suit. Lol
@NymSandi
@NymSandi 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons why I love this channel, even though Blue has a clear Italian and Greek bias in history, he still recognizes that other civilizations had really cool accomplishments, and compares how they were to how they're treated by western historians. Thank you so much Blue, you've helped me find out that I love the Akamanid Persian empire as much as I love New Kingdom Egypt. Your videos are amazing!
@jordanleighton6893
@jordanleighton6893 3 жыл бұрын
Blue: This whole thing historians do by focusing on specific rulers sucks(justifies this thought well). Blue: *So here’s a video on two funky fresh rulers*
@ingold1470
@ingold1470 Жыл бұрын
It does make me wonder if "Great Man History" wasn't actually intended as an explanation of historical events (except possibly by Carlyle), but as a more respectable subgenre of self-help books. Less "And then King Chad solved almost everything, and that's why we name so much after him" and more "This is how the qualities of a great man play out in practice when he has the power to show them most dramatically" or something.
@jordanleighton6893
@jordanleighton6893 Жыл бұрын
@@ingold1470 that would make sense. I suspect it’s not the reason, but it is a good way to handle it going forward
@Beowulf_DW
@Beowulf_DW 3 жыл бұрын
“Your quality will be known among your enemies before ever you meet them.”
@marcelob.678
@marcelob.678 3 жыл бұрын
Wheres that from?
@philippkonig2802
@philippkonig2802 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcelob.678 Kingdom of heaven (2004). Amazing movie (If you watch the directors cut, the theatrical cut is crap.). It does include some historical inaccuracies, but overall very good movie.
@philippkonig2802
@philippkonig2802 3 жыл бұрын
It was released in 2005, sorry.
@mikfhan
@mikfhan 3 жыл бұрын
Like Master and Commander it is a great film :) KOH is long but you can break it into three acts and watch it friday-sunday afternoon over dinner if you like.
@ladywaffle2210
@ladywaffle2210 3 жыл бұрын
"Reputation is a weapon forged by the fears of your enemies." -Total War: Shogun 2
@NobleWolf
@NobleWolf 3 жыл бұрын
Cyrus and Saladin both had one over arching goal when it came to dealing with people " Respect everyone like your brothers and sisters but deal with the ones who behave badly "
@Gilhelmi
@Gilhelmi 3 жыл бұрын
Saladin was incredibly intelligent to allow the pilgrims to come in. They have money, money they would spend on food and lodging. This is the ancient equivalent of tourism revenue. Not to forget, trying to build a positive relationship with rival nations. Peaceful coexistence is always the better option.
@chrisbumface2990
@chrisbumface2990 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about Thomas Jefferson is that he was a huge fan of Cyrus the Great. He even had the book Cyropaedia by Xenophon which was a somewhat fictional biography of Cyrus and the Achaemenid Empire.
@edisonlima4647
@edisonlima4647 3 жыл бұрын
The kind of adversaries needed not only for one of them send his doctor to help, but also for the other one to TRUST this was not going to end in poisoning is seldom seen amongst kings.
@Tiwack01
@Tiwack01 3 жыл бұрын
Displaying hospitality to nobility was honorable and opportunity for avoiding outright conflict. It's the roots of modern diplomacy and often throughout history leaders and rulers would meet to discuss disputes one day only to have their armies butcher each other the next...
@michaelkriston8477
@michaelkriston8477 3 жыл бұрын
This is what professional historians call "poggers af"
@deadlypandaghost
@deadlypandaghost 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel bad for the doctor. If the king had died he would have been executed on the spot even if he did his best. Hope that got covered in the mission briefing
@veramae4098
@veramae4098 3 жыл бұрын
When Saladin had conquered Jerusalem (the first time) he did not slaughter everyone to "cleanse" it. Instead he had unimaginable amounts of rose water made and his army washed the city to cleanse it.
@michaelkriston8477
@michaelkriston8477 3 жыл бұрын
@@veramae4098 I can just imagine that Soldiers: *sharpening swords* Saladin:" aight, mop duty" Soldiers: "who?" Saladin: " yes."
@AK-sb7cr
@AK-sb7cr 3 жыл бұрын
Saladin's adorable af, imagine being so chivalrous and downright NICE that your political adversaries whose main beef with you is religion still write nice things about you
@sars910
@sars910 3 жыл бұрын
Forget nice things. Your enemies literally write letters of apology to you. Salah-ud-Din was a Chad. No mincing words.
@foundation2854
@foundation2854 3 жыл бұрын
@@sars910 "We're very sorry and thankful for dealing with Raynald. He was a pain in the neck."
@sars910
@sars910 3 жыл бұрын
@@foundation2854 Saladin : "Don't worry. In his final moments, I was also a pain in his neck."
@Alex_Hernandez999
@Alex_Hernandez999 3 жыл бұрын
@@sars910 *puts my arm around you* You sir, are a chad.
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically Christian sources are a great deal more favourable to him than Muslim. Probably because the Christians got stuck up on him being a chivalric ideal.
@AurayaLovegood
@AurayaLovegood 3 жыл бұрын
"Just because he was at war didn't mean he had to be a jerk about it" is my new spirit animal.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 3 жыл бұрын
How tf can a statement about war be your spirit animal, that's not even how that cringey ass meme works lol
@amalbackerfysal1821
@amalbackerfysal1821 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 cringe
@Avicerox
@Avicerox 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 ok boomer
@SouthernEli
@SouthernEli 2 жыл бұрын
“When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.” -Winston Churchill
@jasonmartin4775
@jasonmartin4775 3 жыл бұрын
About Saladin: "If he punched you, you would have to fight the overwhelming urge to thank him."
@kae41
@kae41 3 жыл бұрын
Rulers and being good at their job are not phrases that generally go together but here we are Edit: So it seems as though I've started a bit of drama (shocking, I know), so I'd like to clear a few things up. My comment was meant to be more about politicians than rulers, as well as the fact that perhaps you shouldn't judge ancient rulers on modern standards. I'd recommend reading RealmRabbit's comment as well! Good day! :)
@kuku505
@kuku505 3 жыл бұрын
Because the curse of a crown flows from one to another
@Sakattack2023
@Sakattack2023 3 жыл бұрын
Sure if you look at thousand year old rulers through a modern bull shit progressive lens, everyone is fuckin evil.
@vinnieg6161
@vinnieg6161 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sakattack2023 being modern and progressive is bullshit? We actually compare ancient leaders to other ancient leaders, as to why Marcus Aurelius was a good emperor and Nero not so much..
@GallowglassVT
@GallowglassVT 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sakattack2023 you must be fun at parties.
@Sakattack2023
@Sakattack2023 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinnieg6161 yes 100% modern progressiveness is evil, destructive and racist. And yes you miserable people have a short list of acceptable people. That’s not what I said either, I like how you only had something to say when you interpreted what i said in bad faith. This isn’t a list of the best Roman emperors comparatively. This is his own opinion based off of modern criteria which they’re obvious lefty revisionists.
@demodave6054
@demodave6054 3 жыл бұрын
This should definitely be a series. Cool rulers in history
@PbasijiR
@PbasijiR 3 жыл бұрын
Thatd be a short one
@christianschwietzke8959
@christianschwietzke8959 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe "underappreciated rulers" in history. Or even just "most significant historical figures you´ve probably never heard of".
@Sakattack2023
@Sakattack2023 3 жыл бұрын
@@christianschwietzke8959 because you’ve probably already herd of them if they’re “most significant”
@klake5375
@klake5375 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sakattack2023 there are plenty of significant historical figures that the general public doesnt know much about
@Prodigi50
@Prodigi50 3 жыл бұрын
@@PbasijiR Not as short as you’d think.
@JaelinBezel
@JaelinBezel 3 жыл бұрын
“It is hard for a good man to be king.” -T’Chaka
@TheMrawesomest
@TheMrawesomest 3 жыл бұрын
@5:51 it makes me so happy that the Arabic text was in correct direction and the letters have the correct form!
@nopecopter9353
@nopecopter9353 3 жыл бұрын
To everyone angry that some figures weren’t covered in this video: there’s a very real possibility that we’ll see more videos like it, ESPECIALLY if it does well, so don’t despair! For now, just appreciate the cool kings and get hyped for more.
@carmacksanderson3937
@carmacksanderson3937 3 жыл бұрын
"Achaemenid Like A Wrecking Ball" That's it. Close up shop. This is as good as it gets for us
@SomeCrusader
@SomeCrusader 3 жыл бұрын
We have achieved peak comedy!
@celestewright4454
@celestewright4454 3 жыл бұрын
Timestamp?
@lintecassidy206
@lintecassidy206 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment about the Mandate of Heaven really interested me, because when I was studying Zoroastrianism I noted that Mazdean kings justified their kingship in a really similar way to the Mandate of Heaven. There’s even a symbol that starts to show up in and following the Achaemenid called the fehr (if I remember how to spell it) that represents the divine right of the king to rule, and when a new king wanted to justify his rule upon overthrowing the previous ruler, he would often commission written or visual works depicting the fehr leaving the previous king and moving to his side-much how new Chinese emperors would lean to the shifting Mandate of Heaven to start morally solidifying their rule! To me the most interesting part is how in both cases this arose from similarities in the belief system. In China, the Mandate tracks back to the shamanic beliefs and shaman kings of early China, whose job was in part to be a conduit for the wisdom of Heaven, tapping into that resource to produce prosperity for the kingdom; if you couldn’t provide for your people, you weren’t connected to Heaven anymore-you had lost its favor-and thus were unfit to rule. Similarly, in Mazda worship, bringing increase and prosperity is seen as a morally good action in a cosmic sense that brings the war between Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu closer to its resolution. And so there is an idea that a good ruler brings prosperity, spiritual wellness, and a bad one brings chaos, disorder, and misfortune, not just through policies but also physically on the land through his moral presence. I think we begin see the concept that would come to be embodied by the fehr rise out of this philosophy at the time-first with Cyrus the Great claiming a moral dimension to his victory over the Babylonians, and then through Darius I’s attempt to re-legitimize his line when overthrowing a usurper, where he takes Cyrus’s logic and runs with it, claiming Ahura Mazda delivered him to victory in the interest of securing prosperity for the empire through his moral righteousness. Both cultures had a concept of a transformative moral force that would pass from their deities through the ruler and into the state, both came to use it to morally explain power changing hands by framing it in the context of bringing the people prosperity, and both developed a concept of a divine right to rule that could be maintained or lost through the quality of your kingship. It’s a really cool example of convergent evolution!
@jacklovejoy5290
@jacklovejoy5290 9 ай бұрын
9:00 Saladin was probably the only person who liked Richard the Lionheart, he was so annoying that all the other crusaders went home just to get away from him
@RamblinPhoenix
@RamblinPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
I am suprised Blue did not mention that Dante in the Divine Comedy put Saladin in Limbo, with the other "Virtuous Pagens" like you know...Virgil.
@sagaramskp
@sagaramskp 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares what Dante thinks. He is just a poet with his imagination and puts all others than Christians in hell. I wonder why it's a masterpiece in West. Copied of Isra-miraj from East
@chinsaw2727
@chinsaw2727 2 жыл бұрын
@@sagaramskp He put many popes in Hell, he was very critical of Christians too. But he was also biased against Greeks and definitely hated other religions, example being putting Muhammad in Hell.
@RamblinPhoenix
@RamblinPhoenix 2 жыл бұрын
OSP did a very good recap of the Divine Comedy. The Poem itself was also very quickly embraced as a classic, and so putting Saladin in Limbo and not Hell would have spoken to European thoughts on the historical figure of Saladin.
@dvf1736
@dvf1736 2 жыл бұрын
@@sagaramskp the piece was mainly to criticize his enemies, as well as people who did bad things of all faiths. You can take all the religion out of it, and it'd still be famous bc it's not everyday you hear a comedy with clear historical context about corrupt politicians burning in hell in the 1300s. It also isn't a copy of Isra-miraj, those two books have nearly nothing in common other than a religious journey, and as far as I'm concerned Isra-miraj wasn't satire.
@michaelizquierdo6907
@michaelizquierdo6907 2 жыл бұрын
@@RamblinPhoenix Fun fact Saladins fame is purely attributed to European fascination of him. He was just a ruler in Muslim history, it wasnt until later European travelers came talking of him that his fame grew in Muslim lands
@beeaggro2593
@beeaggro2593 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Hattin story. Where Saladin is just being chill and nice to the king and then just beheads Raynald in front of him. And when the King of Jerusalem is freaking out he's like dude. Kings don't kill Kings.
@Fisinocean
@Fisinocean 3 жыл бұрын
That is suprisingly modern
@RicolaOnTheRocks
@RicolaOnTheRocks 3 жыл бұрын
CHESS KING SACRIFICE
@MrDoGoOd1000
@MrDoGoOd1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fisinocean saladin is the crown jewel of muslim history.
@maple2524
@maple2524 2 жыл бұрын
Al-Nasir Salah al-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub was a slaver and should not be celebrated by Europeans.
@Fisinocean
@Fisinocean 2 жыл бұрын
@@maple2524 but isnt liyerally every single mahor figure in europeans history are also enslaver?
@mfmradio101
@mfmradio101 3 жыл бұрын
Listening and learning, then hear the second character Salah ad-Din and realize Extra History did a story on him too. It is great to hear different telling of history from the different channels. Thanks Blue for your passion for history.
@crystalp7242
@crystalp7242 3 жыл бұрын
“History’s Biggest A-Holes” (or “History’s Biggest Problematic Faves” if you want to avoid getting demonetized) sounds like it could be a good subject for a video.
@99thTuesday
@99thTuesday 3 жыл бұрын
In his Inferno, Dante put Saladin in the ‘not terrible but also not great’ Limbo where the best non-Christians got to go.
@sars910
@sars910 3 жыл бұрын
Nah Limbo was actually the home of "You guys are awesome and cool but unfortunately you aren't Christian so you can't go to heaven" crowd of people. Notable tenants include Saladin, Marcus Aurelius and Julius Caesar.
@sumaiyakaleem9439
@sumaiyakaleem9439 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 🤣 meanwhile Saladin would be partying in Muslim heaven 💃
@Fisinocean
@Fisinocean 3 жыл бұрын
@@sars910 the limbo is dante kin-list?
@sars910
@sars910 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fisinocean Kinlist ?
@mergen3125
@mergen3125 2 жыл бұрын
Also later on Boccaccio included Saladin in his book Decameron, praising him.
@Heothbremel
@Heothbremel 3 жыл бұрын
This was so unexpectedly wholesome...
@carlosroo5460
@carlosroo5460 3 жыл бұрын
Is always good to have some every once in a while.
@user-hs1xb9tv6e
@user-hs1xb9tv6e 3 жыл бұрын
Well it's best rulers who were actully good. Its alwyas nice to hear about historical people who were genuinely good.
@defensivekobra3873
@defensivekobra3873 3 жыл бұрын
Y e s
@transsylvanian9100
@transsylvanian9100 3 жыл бұрын
It was propaganda. There is no such thing as a good monarch.
@defensivekobra3873
@defensivekobra3873 3 жыл бұрын
@@transsylvanian9100 he never said they were good people, just good people relative to other monarchs
@feliperoa5821
@feliperoa5821 Жыл бұрын
The beginning of the video lead me to discover the great men history theory and now I'm basically re-evaluating the way I see all these people, trying to see them more as people and less than superhumans who did everything by themselves (like our favourite Alexander boy or the local heroes of my own country, Argentina) the process might be long but I think it'll be worth it, thanks Blue
@brotherofastudio6310
@brotherofastudio6310 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad you made this video, I was already a fan of Cyrus thanks to your video on the Persian empire but this just reinforces that admiration. I hope that you'll make another video with more monarchs who fit the bill like Louis the 4th of France, I've been listening to the audiobook version called "Champlain's dream" and in just two sessions I feel he really deserves a place on such a list. I also hope that Red makes a video like this: Gods Who Were Actually Good" like Hades Hestia, Persephone, Forseti, Tyr, etc...
@roy4173
@roy4173 3 жыл бұрын
I think king sejong deserves a glance if we're doing good rulers. Developed the Korean alphabet, loved science, and prioritized the well being of his farmers over his highest paid court officials during a drought.
@roy-nyan
@roy-nyan 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with my doubleganger 👍🏿
@xhagast
@xhagast 3 жыл бұрын
And he was not only kind but shrewd. Farmers GIVE to the country and the crown, court officials TAKE from the country and the crown.
@montykitty
@montykitty 3 жыл бұрын
I'll second that.
@spencervance8484
@spencervance8484 2 жыл бұрын
King sejong huh? I ll give him a look
@lilmane1070
@lilmane1070 2 жыл бұрын
King Sejong was the first to come to mind when I read the title lol
@jamesharding3459
@jamesharding3459 3 жыл бұрын
Blue dunking on the Crusades and the Deus Vult meme is one of the greatest things I have ever seen.
@jnzupka
@jnzupka 3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly the second crusade ended without a drop of blood. So easily the best crusade
@balabanasireti
@balabanasireti 3 жыл бұрын
Meh, I'm not a fan of overused and dead memes.
@sjappiyah4071
@sjappiyah4071 3 жыл бұрын
Yes , perfect use of meming without being ignorant to the history behind it
@milleniumsword1558
@milleniumsword1558 3 жыл бұрын
*Deus lo vult
@Jane-oz7pp
@Jane-oz7pp 3 жыл бұрын
Embracing the meme? Not really, just referencing it. I highly doubt that Blue is a racist.
@aliyakaba5184
@aliyakaba5184 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking about these figures!
@genuineangusbeef8697
@genuineangusbeef8697 7 ай бұрын
5:48 the different texts going in opposite directions based on the proper direction in which they are read is such a good detail.
@nobodyofimprotance7615
@nobodyofimprotance7615 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, a video on both of the good rulers in history.
@GhostGamer123Ghost
@GhostGamer123Ghost 3 жыл бұрын
All two of them
@balabanasireti
@balabanasireti 3 жыл бұрын
I wish there were more videos like this one. These days it's all about "Rulers who were actually terrible" or "Rulers who were worse than you think."
@ethanotoroculus1060
@ethanotoroculus1060 3 жыл бұрын
Checkmate, Techno.
@Maric18
@Maric18 3 жыл бұрын
there is like probably maybe 2 or 3 more
@zieroshamw1832
@zieroshamw1832 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanotoroculus1060 anarchy is pog
@CesarDragulaneweraforanewdream
@CesarDragulaneweraforanewdream 3 жыл бұрын
"...recent history is getting to me." No worries blue, I think we understand
@carlyblack42
@carlyblack42 3 жыл бұрын
It's so nice to hear about mostly good people in history. As you pointed out, there was the conquest and war stuff, but they weren't jerks about it. And yeah, I think recent history is getting to all of us...
@patroclus9885
@patroclus9885 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you blue, absolutely made my weekend 🙏🏻
@mikotagayuna8494
@mikotagayuna8494 3 жыл бұрын
Blue: Cyrus conquered the MEDIA and created the Achaemenid Empire. Me: I guess that's why he gets all the good press.
@Alex_Hernandez999
@Alex_Hernandez999 3 жыл бұрын
Smooth
@LuckoDaStars
@LuckoDaStars 2 жыл бұрын
... I hate you
@yaqubleis6311
@yaqubleis6311 2 жыл бұрын
Cyrus the Great is one of the best military commanders in history he conquered the Median Empire, Lydian Empire and Neo-Babylonian Empire the 3 most powerful empires of is time to created the biggest and most powerful empire of is time
@RockSplitter
@RockSplitter 3 жыл бұрын
"History can be hard, right?" [murmurs of agreement] "Wrong! History is easy! YOU suck!"
@Secondary_Identifier
@Secondary_Identifier 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, whatever you say Captain Tenneal.
@c.w.crawley6668
@c.w.crawley6668 3 жыл бұрын
Now I want JoCat to do a history series
@pikmaniac2643
@pikmaniac2643 2 жыл бұрын
I look forward to when this video gets a sequel... restores my faith in people as a whole.
@certusverna
@certusverna 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary as always thank you for your work and knowledge
@iamwhatitorture6072
@iamwhatitorture6072 3 жыл бұрын
This has to become a series. It probably will be a short one, but yeah.
@ekrenz5268
@ekrenz5268 3 жыл бұрын
I like to believe that during the siege of Kerak, Saladin said “if that tower is a rockin, do not come a knockin.”
@levichalk4232
@levichalk4232 3 жыл бұрын
This was a nice change of pace. I like to see good historical figures.
@AnaxErik4ever
@AnaxErik4ever 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there Blue! While watching Rick Steves' Europe on prime recently, I was thinking all about you and the "History Hijinks" videos you have posted over the three or four years I have been subbed to OSP. I was able to better identify different landmarks in Italy, particularly Florence and Venice, thanks to your videos. What you said about "Great Man History" definitely resonates well with feminist, ethnic studies, and post colonial readings of historical events, as well as historic/modern literature.
@cybermadness2503
@cybermadness2503 3 жыл бұрын
“Shut up and Pay up!” Someone should make that a T-shirt. 😆😂
@Sakattack2023
@Sakattack2023 3 жыл бұрын
How are people this ignorant? You never heard “fuck you, pay me”
@Alex_Hernandez999
@Alex_Hernandez999 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sakattack2023 One is less crass.
@salahddinebensebane8429
@salahddinebensebane8429 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't be a jerk even if you are fighting a war " Saladin
@Fisinocean
@Fisinocean 3 жыл бұрын
"Look guys i dont care that its the enemy stepson's wedding, its still a wedding. Mind your manners people"
@ralek592
@ralek592 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fisinocean "Last week he sent your messenger's head to our castle with an arrow!"
@86fifty
@86fifty 3 жыл бұрын
This IS a great way to do history!! I'm absolutely looking forward to more Pretty Good Rulers!
@datpolakmike
@datpolakmike 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I've been feeling rather pessimistic about humanity lately and this was a much needed ray of optimism
@cedartheyeah.justyeah.3967
@cedartheyeah.justyeah.3967 3 жыл бұрын
Yay
@heathertaylor3103
@heathertaylor3103 3 жыл бұрын
Learning about Cyrus and Persia, in general, is what got me hooked on history. I realized there's actually some really cool history that doesn't get properly covered and it made me want to change that.
@Delightfully_Bitchy
@Delightfully_Bitchy Жыл бұрын
That's admirable. 🙂
@middleeasternforhire8985
@middleeasternforhire8985 Жыл бұрын
As an Iranian we are so proud to have this man in our history
@templarw20
@templarw20 Жыл бұрын
That Persia is ignored in American world history texts, besides self-serving fictions about the 1979 revolution (speaking as an American, we had it coming; one word: Mosaddegh), is a horrendous sin against civilization…
@GuineaPigEveryday
@GuineaPigEveryday 6 ай бұрын
@@templarw20 in archeology Persia is pretty huge as a subject, and is absolutely studied by a lot of people. But when it comes to history, or high school education, or pop-culture knowledge, there's a massive gap for sure. Mostly because in the West we have a lot lot more access to Greek writings at the time of the Persian wars, and for a long time our obsession with the ancient greeks as predecessors of the Western world definitely coloured the Persians in that light.
@danvernier198
@danvernier198 3 жыл бұрын
Misses a bit of Cyrus' reputation inspiring surrenders on more than one occasion. Especially at the first instance when Astyages' whole army just defected without a battle.
@c.w.crawley6668
@c.w.crawley6668 3 жыл бұрын
Mostly because the guy leading it was the same guy who spared Cyrus and planned for him to become king the first place, not Astyages' best move there.
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 2 жыл бұрын
Well it's not anything remarkable if you know the full story. A lot of Cyrus' accomplishments are actually those of Harpagus. Harpagus was Cyrus the Great's best General In fact, it was Harpagus who planned everying for the Median rebellion...everything was his idea...so of course he was gonna "defect". Astyages cut up and cooked Harpagus' only son and then made Harpagus eat his son at a banquet...as punishment😅. Harpagus remained polite and afterwards calmly collected his son's remains for burial. After that Harpagus started planning his revenge and made arrangements to replace the cruel king...convincing other nobles to join him. As soon as Harpagus had enough supporters, he sent Cyrus a message tellling him that if Cyrus took up arms against his grand father, Harpagus, the nobles and the Medians would switch to his side on the battlefield. After Astyages marched to meet Cyrus in battle, the Medes mutineed and Astyages was handed over to Cyrus. All Cyrus did was take the opportunity that was being handed to him on a silver platter...by Harpagus. The Medians were obviously fed up with Astyages' cruelty. The Medians obviously had conditions they required of Cyrus. Also, Cyrus saw what happened to Astyages. It can happen to him too. So he had no choice but to not be cruel. Harpagus was known for being very merciful. Also, Cyrus' victory against Croesus was carried out on the advice of Harpagus. (using dromedaries to scare off the Lydian cavalry). The Lydians rebelled soon after Cyrus conquered it. Cyrus was furious and wanted to slaughter everyone and burn Sardis to the ground, but was convinced to not do that...and instead win over the hearts of the Lydians. So Cyrus sent his general Mazares. Mazares died, and Hapargus was sent to replace Mazares. Hapargus innovated new siege techniques and was a prolific taker of fortified cities (Alexander would be inspired by Harpagus' siege craft). This was when Harpagus became known for being very merciful when taking cities as he successfully conquerered Asia Minor and the Levant. Harpagus would later be made Satrap of Asia Minor. A satrapy was like a very autonomous sub-kingdom. Wether people thought the Persians were pleasant or cruel, usually depended on the Satrap that was ruling over them.
@ramtinfazeli5106
@ramtinfazeli5106 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerdurden3722 Dude, Cyrus defeated the Medians in three battles Battle of Hyrba, battle of the Persian border and battle/siege of Pasargadae hill And Harpagus only conquered Ionian city states not all of asia minor Cyrus gave him that mission so he himself could go and conquer Bactria personally He defeated the Lydian king who tried to conquer his empire in the battle of Pteria, battle of Thymbra and siege of Sardis Cyrus then conquered Bactria, a large part of central asia (and even reached Aral lake/sea), Babylonian empire (won the battle of Opis) and Gedrosia (most of modern day Pakistan) And that's not true, Cyrus never wanted to burn Sardis or slaughter people And the Lydians never revolted Just by reading his cylinder you'll know what kind of man he was Even Alexander admired Cyrus Cyrus was one of his heroes
@delusionaldreamer8332
@delusionaldreamer8332 11 ай бұрын
"...which lands us in the Holy Lands in the middle of the Crusades, so I'm already not having fun." Mood. Also same.
@Tum0spoo
@Tum0spoo 3 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to see more videos about genuinely good people making the best out of the situations they take over.
@AMoniqueOcampo
@AMoniqueOcampo 3 жыл бұрын
7:13 So Saladin decided NOT to pull off The Red Wedding?! Kudos to him.
@maximilianomadrigal6661
@maximilianomadrigal6661 3 жыл бұрын
Even Saladin knows you that don't mess with a bride's wedding day
@ariemhetareads3996
@ariemhetareads3996 2 жыл бұрын
I was very curious who you were going to pick and now I'm so excited about who you picked that I think I'm going to save this video for when I need cheering
@renatocorvaro6924
@renatocorvaro6924 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of these two before today, so thanks!
@thepriorstone4064
@thepriorstone4064 3 жыл бұрын
Saladin has always been one of my favorite rulers to research, there’s always one thing fascinating to find out about him
@Calcorperations
@Calcorperations 3 жыл бұрын
This was surprisingly wholesome (I've always been a fan of Saladin's respect for others).
@petsdinner
@petsdinner 3 жыл бұрын
Saladin: like yeah I might well wanna drive the Christians from these lands Saladin: but I'm not a COCKBLOCKER
@thnecromaniac
@thnecromaniac 3 жыл бұрын
the stories of Saladin's wars and battles, is something I've always loved.
@krismagnus341
@krismagnus341 3 жыл бұрын
And now I need OSPlays: Crusader Kings just to see how awful would Blue become in his quest for conquest and survival.
@tomlynmathewsjr7514
@tomlynmathewsjr7514 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing how long it takes for Blue to get the entirety of Europe on fire would be amusing.
@c.w.crawley6668
@c.w.crawley6668 3 жыл бұрын
And to see how many *DOMES* he can create within an hour
@Memelord-md5hs
@Memelord-md5hs 3 жыл бұрын
Ya know I love listening to blue and red a lot. They could talk about nearly anything and I'd listen to it
@Xboxzilla
@Xboxzilla 3 жыл бұрын
They got that calming, but energized voice that makes you wish they hosted 2-hour-long history and trope lessons.
@blubistheword
@blubistheword 3 жыл бұрын
Been here since the Roman Republic video, watched every upload, loved all of them 💙💙💙
@akramgimmini8165
@akramgimmini8165 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more of this format
@moonspirit6675
@moonspirit6675 3 жыл бұрын
Week 1 of asking for these collabs (I only do Red's cause I have no idea for whom to feature with Blue, feel free to leave suggestions ^^) So, for Red : - Terrible Writing Advice : Trope Talk on Crossovers - Xiran Jay Zhao : Journey to The West ep.9 - The Mythology Guy : Miscellaneous Myths taking a deep dive on an olympian god (Athena, Artemis & Apollo or Ares would be fun) + Blue has already made a Trope Talk, have Red make a history video EDIT : It would also be fun to see Cyan make a video about whatever subject she wants
@PmpknHead
@PmpknHead 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a crossover with Xiran Jay Zhao. They are my favorite person
@madisonkung8390
@madisonkung8390 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree on Xiran Jay Zhao.
@s_c_u_m3172
@s_c_u_m3172 3 жыл бұрын
No twa crossover obv needs to be abt love triangles
@moonspirit6675
@moonspirit6675 3 жыл бұрын
@@s_c_u_m3172 Ngl that's a great contender too XD
@FiveStudios32
@FiveStudios32 3 жыл бұрын
Remember: if a politician ever evokes Julius Caesar or Napoleon or anyone like them, RUN.
@artofthepossible7329
@artofthepossible7329 3 жыл бұрын
(well in certain countries, such men would be probably necessary right about now) I would suggest Nietzsche quoting as well but name a politician that got their degree in philosophy or pyschology.
@Fordo007
@Fordo007 3 жыл бұрын
@@artofthepossible7329 Yeah, compared to what was before them, Caesar and Napoleon seem pretty preferable to me. And I need only look at Athens to see why 'the people' being in charge can be just as bad or worse than a single tyrant.
@ChibiKami
@ChibiKami 3 жыл бұрын
any politician quoting 1984 like it's a good thing
@DavidbarZeus1
@DavidbarZeus1 3 жыл бұрын
Caesar was trying to clean up the Roman Republic and Napoleon not only cleaned up the disaster that the French Revolution had become, he spread the good things about it all over Europe, why do you think they're bad men?
@gullyfeather4330
@gullyfeather4330 3 жыл бұрын
@Wesley Molt Napoleon did spread some of the values of the French revolution around Europe. Unfortunately he also spread a lot of death, destruction and unpopular French rule. For example, he attempted to reinstall slavery in Haiti after a successful slave revolt for one thing. He also tried to install his brother as king of Spain. In both cases popular resistance against the French army resulted in them committing large-scale atrocities against the local population. Both Napoleon and Caesar invaded other countries to advance themselves personally, causing huge losses of life essentially to advance their ego. It's worth noting that their contemporaries acted in similar ways tho, so it wasn't like this kind of behaviour was entirely out of the ordinary for their time.
@TriangularPrism
@TriangularPrism 3 жыл бұрын
I would *love* this being a full series
@adamnakamura8003
@adamnakamura8003 3 жыл бұрын
Stories like these are what remind me, even if and when people really are open books and can never change, there still are those who are both good and great at the same time. It’s one thing to say you’re great, it’s another to make people believe you’re great, but it takes the right actions and intentions to BE great...
@PuffaJacket
@PuffaJacket 3 жыл бұрын
"History can be hard" Ahh.. why did I pick this subject in school???
@artofthepossible7329
@artofthepossible7329 3 жыл бұрын
Because those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.
@PuffaJacket
@PuffaJacket 3 жыл бұрын
@@artofthepossible7329 oh yeahhhhhhhhhh
@jariusreece1931
@jariusreece1931 3 жыл бұрын
I was just talking to a friend about how my favorite historical figures are Cyrus and Saladin because they're easily the best and most moral people... for conquerors.
@thatoneguyii5458
@thatoneguyii5458 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Charlrmagne was also pretty moral
@jariusreece1931
@jariusreece1931 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatoneguyii5458 The Bloody Verdict of Verden
@thatoneguyii5458
@thatoneguyii5458 3 жыл бұрын
@@jariusreece1931 Tbf the pagans of Saxony were pretty much vikings without boats that constantly raided Charlemagne's territory. Its kind of understandable as to why extreme actions had to be taken and just paying them off would have just worsened the problem
@jariusreece1931
@jariusreece1931 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatoneguyii5458 Tbf he still murdered 4,000 prisoners because he felt like it.
@thatoneguyii5458
@thatoneguyii5458 3 жыл бұрын
@@jariusreece1931 It wasn't because he "felt like it" Saxons continuously raided and pillaged his realm and his execution of the 4500 prisoners was to a display of force to the pagans of Saxony since his previous attempts by means of treatise failed since they kept breaking it. I can't really blame Charlemagne on acting on a decision that maybe brutal would yield to an outcome that will stop Saxony's constant raiding of his lands
@michaelmcclelland2208
@michaelmcclelland2208 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. It was very informative.
@rateeightx
@rateeightx 3 жыл бұрын
3:57 Personally My Favourite Of His Epithets Was "King Of The Four Corners Of The World".
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