ULTIMATE DIRECTION ULTRA VEST 6.0 REVIEW | Better than Salomon ADV Skin 12? | Run4Adventure

[@L-dw5sx]

Aghhhh I just need a vest so many options 🥵

[@Run4Adventure]

There are a lot of options out there! We’ve got a running pack/vest buying guide on the channel which might help 😁 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHu6aqanoLCBgLMsi=coEC8BKyloNdyG7F

[@72matt19]

Good review. I'm still looking for a review/video that shows the way that the poles are supposed to be strapped to the front. UD has changed their system and nobody seems to know how it works because they just totally disregard it in all of their reviews.

[@candratan6604]

Yes, you're right. I'm still learning how to carry the poles with UD vest too 😅

[@kalleleman]

Maybe they've fixed that, but the soft flasks on my ud vest are a really tight fit. Quite a hastle if you wanna refill them and put them back on the go. They have a seam that sits outside the bottle and that seams to get in the way. Mine is the ud race vest 5.0

[@bb4prelude73]

The 6.0 does have more space

[@Rustyfox46]

Hey Loyd, This UD bag has so many pockets - I'd forget were I kept everything 🙄 I'm happy with my Salomon adv skin. I also prefer a bladder to the small bottles, 👌🏻

[@gregprevite8548]

Great review!! Looks like a solid product. However my Salomon pack has me not looking for hydration solutions for foreseeable future!

[@BenNotley]

Great review Loyd! I think the Ultra Vest 6.0 is a really solid piece of kit. Glad to hear you have been enjoying using it too. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences. 😎🤘

[@patcarroll280]

Loyd you won me over at "Bromance" with Anton, the guy is to cool for school. I hear where you are coming from. I did ask if you where doing an in depth review but, Mate you smashed it 👍 Looks like a pretty much bomb proof vest for long or short days. On the buy list me thinks. Cheers Loyd. Keep on running bud.

[@andrewlloyd7223]

Are you looking at reviewing the new Ronhill/mountain equipment Mercurial jacket. Holding out for some feedback b4 I buy.

[@LivoSurvivo]

ive got it defo worth it

[@craigbarth7474]

Not sure why but I've gravitated more towards the UD vests over the years - Also AK signature vests 😀 Currently I have the PB Adventure Vest 3.0 for bigger days when I need more storage. Mountain Vest 3.0 - love the big stuff pocket and bungy compression system on the rear + the multiple zip (secure) pockets so you can always quickly find what you need, this is my favourite pack I would buy again if it was available and in my opinion better than my Mountain vest 5.0 other than the front pole elastics, but I prefer zip pockets so it's a shame this has fewer than my other vests... General comments - Lighter is not always better and certainly not more durable and longer lasting which has me nervous re the MV 5.0 especially the fit system so saving for races! The UD bladder straps are crap and the press studs crap out. I like to carry poles up front but vests are picky which poles and the UD vests seem to work best with the Black Diamond carbon Zs (definitely don't work with Dynafit Pros which I'm pretty underwhelmed by in general). Love having multiple UD bottles so I can carry an additional in the rear stuff pocket if necessary or have one pre filled (dry or full if supported) with energy mix for aid stations to quickly swap out - efficiency saves time even if I'm not a super fast runner ;-)

[@MrOnerider]

14:53 Thanks for the review! I'm currently a Salomon Adv Skin user and I am happy with that vest in general. However, I think it has one annoying flaw. The soft flasks are so hard to get back into their pockets, especially if you have stuff in the mesh pockets. It does appear as if the UD 6.0 is much better in that perspective. Is this correct?

[@craigbarth7474]

@@MrOnerider Yeah I have the Adv skin 12 too... My issues with it are: same issue with flasks and the front mesh pockets, also often squirt myself in the eye trying to get them in due to no sealing mechanism, not enough zip pocket options and stuff falls out of the side ones too easily, no outer stuff pocket or bungys on the back, small pockets above the flasks are useless, waste bag? flip over thing is fiddly and I always end up poking stuff between the bag n the pocket so it falls on the floor, anything in the lower rear through pocket just becomes a sweat sponge ie the only real place for a rain jacket and it ends up being wet and stinky before you even put it on, vest overall runs warmer.

[@manuel_877]

Hi Run4Adventure and all the runners. Interesting review. Here is my like. A nice week for everyone.

[@sambrewster8556]

Regarding the lockable valves, Salomon do offer lockable flask caps as an aftermarket option. They're a different design which involves twisting the lid itself which is split into two parts. I replaced all my Salomon flask caps with them as I often need to carry additional flasks in the back of my pack and the lockable caps prevent them leaking out everywhere.

[@Run4Adventure]

I've seen there lockable caps Sam but Salomon need to work them in to the flasks that come with heir vests, rather than making us pay extra if we want to use them 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏

[@Vjekoslav-vf3hr]

Put small kitchen / office rubber bands around front straps. Wrapp it around itself in loops 2x / 3x and than put strap through the rubber loops. It will keep the end of strap tightened. You can roll the band over the strap by your fingers. I hope that manufacturer will do it in next model for every excess end of strap

[@kalleleman]

To keep the chest straps from flapping around? Gotta try that

[@sambrewster8556]

Hi Loyd. Do you plan to review the new Salomon Adv Skin Cross Season? Looks like an interesting design that could be good for winter mountain runs and walks.

[@Run4Adventure]

It looks like a solid pack Sam, I'll see what I can do 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊

[@bikerdude6119]

What makes a vest worth buying for me is a quiver bag that is compatible like salomon's. Nice review 👍🏻

[@Run4Adventure]

I've used a quiver on my Salomon vest a few times and I found it really difficult to get my poles back in. Every time I wanted to put my poles away I had to take my vest off to do it? 🤔 How do you find it with your poles? Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏

[@bikerdude6119]

@@Run4Adventure so i had to loosen the pull string at the bottom of the quiver to slide the poles in. Im guessing it also depends on the poles if there are differences on the bottom ends. I use black diamond and every once in a while i slow down a bit to put them in.

[@Run4Adventure]

@@bikerdude6119 I think you're right, it depends on the poles you use. I think it works better for some than others 👍

[@melaniebailey3446]

I agree, I love my Salomon quiver! It did take a bit of getting used to / practice (and I agree that loosening the toggle at the back is essential to getting the poles to slide back in easily - and remembering to tighten it again once they are back in!). But I now find it quick and easy to use.

[@bikerdude6119]

@@melaniebailey3446 i use the same method ! Its quite simple once you get used to it.Also if you find any buy an extra because theyre sold out everywhere

[@trail91]

What type of reservoir do you suggest to install at the back?

[@Flight-of-Life]

Nice, but it's still doesn't beat the Aonijie ultra vest 18L which is a third of the price, comes with all these features. But has a waterproof main pouch that can seal.

[@Run4Adventure]

I've never used a Aonijie vest before but I've heard good feedback about them 👍 I'll have to get hold of one to try, thanks for watching 🙏

[@craigbarth7474]

But only 350ml soft flasks - meh! Unfortunately that's a no go re most race mandatory hydration requirements! If you mainly use a bladder then fair play to try,... Personally I only use a bladder for long training runs when I'm unsure of available water sources.

[@robsbeenrunning]

Have you ever used the Montane Geko race vest mate?

[@melaniebailey3446]

Hi Lloyd, what interests me about this UD vest is the ability to slide the soft flasks in more easily than the Salomon 12. Am I missing something though with the Salomon vest? I can’t seem to get full soft flasks into the pockets without taking it off and ‘jiggling’ them down?! 🤔

[@ianl4518]

I'm a big fan of Salomon vests but have found on my Adv Skin 12 that the material overlaps the bottles sometimes. As for getting the bottles in easily, I've found the trick is to push the bottle in with one hand but use your other hand to pull the top of the stuff pocket underneath outwards. IME, it's the bottom of the bottle, catching on the edge of the stuff pocket that prevents it going down all the way.

[@melaniebailey3446]

@@ianl4518 interesting, thank you - I shall try that technique out. 👍

[@Run4Adventure]

I find if you start the bottle off and then slightly jump up and down, the weight of the water slides it down into the pocket 👍 Also Ian is right, sometimes the stuff pocket under the bottle pocket can get in the way, especially if you've got kit in it. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏😊

[@melaniebailey3446]

@@Run4Adventure many thanks, will try a bit of jumping around! 😂

[@OrdMandrell1]

He's back with the bloopers. Woohoo!

[@Run4Adventure]

Glad you enjoyed them and thanks for watching 🙏😁

[@Jannerjaunts]

I have stopped using the ultimate direction vests now because the weird plastic drawstring clips perish and snap. I contacted them to ask to buy some new ones with no reply. Using a raid light one now

[@Run4Adventure]

Was that on the previous version of this vest Chris? I believe they had some durability and some comfort issues with the 5.0 🤔 That's pretty bad customer service if they didn't even get back to you! 😔

[@Jannerjaunts]

Yes it was the ud ultra 5.0 signature series. To be fair I find the raid light one a lot better in general. Especially with the boa ratchet system on the sides

[@trailsandbeers]

I wasted a lot of money on bad vests/packs before I got the Salomon Adv Skin 12 and Salomon Sense Pro belt, I never liked the UD ones when I tried them unfortunately. the emergency whistle on all packs is crap you need to buy a real one

[@jamesmcc6190]

So, is it better than the Salomon Adv Skin 12? My 6 year old Adv Skin 12 is on its last legs and needing replaced. Trying to decide between another and this UD Vest 6.0.

[@Run4Adventure]

I would still go with the Salomon Adv Skin 12 James, I personally think it's the best pack on the market 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏

[@jamesmcc6190]

Thank you. The 2017 model I have doesn't cater for poles without a quiver (which I'm not too keen on). The newer model of the Adv Skin 12 does so that'll be my next purchase. Thanks and subscribed 😊

[@Run4Adventure]

@@jamesmcc6190 No problem and thanks for the Sub 🙏😊

[@ThatFlowState]

Great review. For me those zip pockets in the back would be a no go, Salomon's solution is superior. The biggest drawback of the UD flasks to me is that they aren't water filter compatible (Katadyn Befree or Salomon XA filter). Finally do yourself a favor and get a ACME Tornado Slimline whistle. It's an no brainer 6 € upgrade of your emergency equipment.

[@Run4Adventure]

Thanks Florian, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I totally agree, I think Salomon's accessible storage is a lot more functional 👍 I never use a filter on my flasks so that doesn't really bother me. I've actually got an electronic emergency whistle that gives out a 120db whistle and a 2000 lumens strobe light so I wouldn't use the vest whistle in an emergency anyway 😊 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏

[@expatadventureturkey9324]

@@Run4Adventure Floyd, after your review of the whistle I also purchased one, its a a game changer and a piece of mind. As you mentioned 120db and strobe at the same time. Thanks for the pro tip on additional but functional equipment that helps out when you least expect to be needed. Have a great weekend everyone,cheers

[@Run4Adventure]

@@expatadventureturkey9324 That's great to hear, I'm glad you like it. Its a great item if kit that definitely give you piece of mind 👍😊

[@gogolaklazlo]

so is it better than salomon adv skin 12?

[@Thefifaplayeryant]

Better is personal joice I guess, I run with the UD Mountain Vest 4.0 which I prefer over my Salomon Advanced Skin 5. The UD is more "Vest/Backpack", the Salomon more "Shirt/Vest" If this makes sense...Cheers, Ingo

[@Run4Adventure]

I woukd still personally go for the Salomon Adv Skin 12. I think the accessible storage is a bit better on the Salomon vest 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏

[@thomi9698]

Exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for the answer.

[@yajingcai5820]

for me, UD breathe better. Adb skin 12 runs warm, especially during hot day