Runescape is becoming too AFK

[@ProtoxxGaming]

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[@Darknimbus3]

Adult life is way too busy to not be afking in Runescape

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Damn straight!

[@Xanderlorian]

They adapted FOR us 😢

[@michaelroberts2989]

This! When I first started playing Runescape, I was 12. Now I have 4 kids and wouldn't' be able to play if it wasnt AFK

[@matthewalle2]

They know the base lol

[@lucasfink876]

Also, runescape content development speed only allows it to be a secondary game for most. Once you reach your end goal, every year worth of content can be catched up in less then a month of gameplay (~30 hours)

[@Roushe2011]

I love the afk. It allows me to do other things while still being able to enjoy runescape

[@Manigo1743]

How do you enjoy runescape when you are doing other things?

[@Lead1121]

The issue is the grind is too long for us to not AFK. If I’m on RuneScape, I’m almost always studying because I need to be able to do multiple things while playing RuneScape now

[@II-SPONGE-II]

too long? this is rs3 not rs2 from 12+ year ago.skills that can clear 1m xp an hour or hit 99 after 1 dxp isnt a grind. the problem is jagex changing the game play to begin with, it's way too fast now that there's been a shift in the aim of goals for people and now everyone aims for max and they need it right now never used to be like, used to be people to talk to everywhere when you skilled, didn't have to complain that it took too long because the short term goals/achievements were considers really good way more then now for sure most skills had money making methods that scaled and were relevant to most other money making methods so you always made decent gp, this is a big one because these days in rs3 alot of skills you make barely anything unless you do a specific thing.

[@DrowsyYo]

​@@II-SPONGE-II bro lol what skill you getting 1milxp a hour that isn't necromancy, end game combat or using a ton of money to do? That isn't how this works, just because it isn't as slow as osrs or how it used to be, doesn't mean it is extremely fast. Not everyone can play multiple hours a day to max. People have lives. Most of the time I personally play RuneScape for most of my free time, I have a compd ironman and two maxed mains and it's because I have a lot of time to spare. I don't have children or a lot of extra responsibilities but other people do and making the game harder isn't going to help the game.

[@yrtti7732]

@@II-SPONGE-II Max has been the goal ever since 99 capes twisted the mindsets of the playerbase. The current speed of the game isn't really a problem because most of the players are well beyond max (or close to) so it is only natural that the goals then become things like 120s or even 200ms. If anything, Jagex implementing logs was a huge in once again changing the playerbase mindset by feeding our lizard brains with "fill the blanks", which then lots of people torture themselves over. This is in both OSRS and RS3 no less. Just the implementation of logs skyrocketed impling prices while crashing practically every non-uber rare clue reward on OSRS despite having no completion reward whatsoever.

[@deangelobowen7159]

​@II-SPONGE-II You heard the man. Too long. I have children. A wife. A job that makes multiple 6-figures I need to maintain. The afk in runescape is what keeps me playing. If it's not long enough for you, hop on an Ironman or OSRS, there are modes for you. Leave RS3 to us on easy mode for us who need to maintain.

[@II-SPONGE-II]

@@yrtti7732 those players are that high and there was only a need for fake virtual levelling and the introduction to 120 200m broadcasts because of the speed of the game.

[@ember3579]

Part of the problem is that there just simply is not that many fun ways to train non-afk. Not very many people think alching 5000 things in one sitting is worth their relaxation time.

[@arranrodgers8382]

That’s what invention machines are for💁🏻‍♂️

[@ember3579]

@@arranrodgers8382 Machines don't give exp.

[@imadudeplayingadudedisguis5842]

@@ember3579 nobody alchs for xp

[@ember3579]

@@imadudeplayingadudedisguis5842 Because there are less painful methods for exp.

[@Neutralmentality]

i think its fine. a lot of new players afk some stuff while doing other things. its the best way to level up undesired skills.

[@justcus]

once you’re past level 70 or 80 when levels start to take noticeably longer, it’s the best way to train all skills. even if a skill is decently fun, no skill is fun enough to pay full attention to for 10s of hours or even over 100 for level 120.

[@particle3257]

I prefer to do things that require my attention in RuneScape, like bossing and active skilling. Stuff like woodcutting and archeology or similar skills that require being afk drive me crazy, like I want to play the game not just sit there loI. I do wish combat was reworked to be more automated, at least for the basic abilities and stuff, yeah revolution helps but it’s not always optimal, it could be a lot better.

[@baskooij8500]

Same here! I only afk during dxp, using all the resources I gathered during active playing

[@DTreatz]

Sucks they ruined PvP twice, cause that and PvM were the only reasons I play, now it's just PvM especially since I'm max, I don't do boring shit like skill, so with skilling it's either AFK or bust.

[@cooltubes547]

Another great thing about afk is being able to chat with friends while still playing the game and progressing. Having long conversations while bossing or something else that requires attention makes it hard to chat and not everyone is comfortable using voice chat on discord or some other vc platform. Edit: I also have health problems that require me to take 1-3minute breaks every 10 to 15mins and afk things allow me to keep playing when I can’t with some more active methods.

[@Vybzy1]

This is where. Jagex gets a W then

[@lugiamasta]

grinding out gp/xp, watching shows and building models at the same time is its own sense of bliss

[@mrslenderplay]

I feel like many of us first came in contact with runescape during childhood, when disconvering and adventuring through guielinor was exciting, new and intriguing. We were happy hitting iron rock for 3 hours straight in Faladore Mine so we could get lvl 40. However, the world of runescape is now 20 years in the making, and it got too big for itself and thus, to players as well. We grew up, life got in the way and now is priority n.1, and 'Scaping is far from the 2nd place. The love for the game may be watered down these days, but it is still there. And afking is the best way we can get along with life and still hold those childhood memories close, keeping Runescape, tho small, still a part of our lives.

[@Galimeer5]

It's not that the game is boring, it's that the grind is way too long. Level _92_ is the halfway point towards 99 and a good number of skills go to 120 now, and a significant number of players are advocating for the original combat skills to join that list. Boss drops are way too rare too so you're better off just buying equipment upgrades, which require a fuckload of money because of inflation and merching clans, so people spend more time collecting money through skills like woodcutting and fishing, both of which have such low success rates you're basically playing afk anyways. There's a reason Fresh Start worlds offered XP and drop rates through the fuckin' roof: Jagex realized how absurdly grindy the game is and nobody wanted to waste their time with the base game

[@DTreatz]

not only the length, but the content, it's not engaging to get to 99, let alone 120 No combat should be past 120, except hp so you can have 12k base health imo, too much powercreep for that

[@MsCarterElise]

afking is one of the reasons I came back to the game, actually. I do a lot of work at the computer, and with my ADHD it helps me to have a body double/something low energy to interact with every couple of minutes. I was looking into some idle games, but nothing really fit my needs like RS3 did. It actually brings me a ton of joy and makes my more tedious work tasks feel less unbearable. I enjoy that RS3 is an all-in-one sort of game - I afk during work hours and then actually play in the evening when work is over. I also love being able to chat with my friends in-game while we're all doing our own random grinds.

[@ChaseCrossing]

A huge factor for me is the percieved effort vs exp. Fast Xp/hr is nice and all, but I consider a truly afk method to be "free" experience. When I do a method like Star Mining in osrs while I play Rs3 actively - it doesn't matter to me that it's only 25k xp/hr. That method requires one click every 7 minutes or 9 clicks an hour. I can do it literally all day equating to nearly 400k/xp for that day while doing work, chores, and playing games. It feels like cheating in a good way

[@iDragy]

hope this isn't gonna snowball into nerfing afk methods and instead hope they will buff manual methods instead. necromancy did this very well, it had a fast manual training method but the afk method still remained decent.

[@justcus]

RS3 is already so focused on end game bosses that i don’t see why they wouldn’t just make manual methods even faster while leaving afk as it is. they already want to push players into those bosses as it’s their main focus for big updates anymore.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Ironically they've nerfed a few active methods recently. Eggsperimentation and Safecracking (semi afk)@@justcus

[@RmXs]

runescape is a very long grind, i have 2 monitors, i can just afk something while doing something else on another monitor.

[@-Wisdom-]

With the mountain of content this game has, players are forced to afk menial chores like skilling. I'm a pker years ago but since the wildy died I had to find something else to do so I chose skilling. I don't think killing AI is fun so I just afk skills

[@jacobparker6460]

The issue for me is that I have a full time job, only 2-3 hours free per day. I don't have time to sit there and give my full attention to a game which demands 1000s of hours of my time. AFK is a good compromise while I watch Netflix while relaxing

[@Sen-wah]

My problem with non afk methods is the effort required is often not worth it compared to afk skilling while doing other things

[@OSU2010]

I’m glad is AFK I have a life and shit to do. Good job Jagex

[@crit4636]

I love AFK play because it lets me do everything I need to do in a day. Work from home, taking care of kids, cleaning, cooking, a quick trip to the store or taking my kid to or from school. that 15 minutes between each click is what allows me to progress in a game i love and still function in the real world. Its a GOD TIER play by Jagex. + at any moment I want to, Active play is still there and I can go PVMing when I want.

[@DTreatz]

There's relatively nothing in this game that lets you click every 15minutes, dafuq are _you_ doing that has that lmao

[@G82Jesse]

It's because the scope of the skill system is simply way too large and grindy. It takes 46 hours to mine Seren Stones from 89-99 mining. 46 hours. I could actively play all of God of War: Ragnarok, twice, during that time period.

[@MrBytorr]

YOU ALL ASKED FOR AN EXTENDED LOGOUT TIMER!!!

[@ProtoxxGaming]

It's good :)

[@Porkins1]

With the release of custom particles for the master max capes, I appreciate the AFK aspect that RuneScape offers to achieve it, albeit being slightly slower. There is no way I could do it actively while being an adult and raising a family.

[@SensaiGaia1]

I did a lot of AFK this time last year after having carpal tunnel surgery and for the first couple of months I have to say it really helped, alongside watching KZbin etc. But for a while I wasn't able to properly game so my alternative was skilling in runescape as I could at least use my right hand. I don't mind some parts of the game being AFK as the rest then at least there is something to do. I still have many quests to do when I'm not falling asleep at my desk every 30 mins (I have sleep apnea).

[@DuyPham-xd8lp]

Focusing on the screen intensely is not sustainable, harsh on your health. I feel more relaxed playing AFK style

[@kjax139]

If I wanted no afk RuneScape I’d play os

[@plaig]

I find myself enjoying the game less because I have x amount of tasks I have to do every day in order to progress. Even the holiday event is like .. gotta talk to npc every day, do a small task, 3 dailies, give gp to another dude- oops dont forget the calendar. Its demotivating and burns me really quick.

[@damianzuniga9646]

Great video, as a returning player after 10+ years off I can say I’ve been AFKing since June 23’. I WFH, so my character plays for 8 hours while I work. Strangely enough when I clock out I am beat and don’t really feel like actually playing. I’ve been trying to get a Zuk cape but die more than I care to admit. I paid for a year but am considering quitting again. I did lvl arch from 1 to 111 and necro 110. Kinda sad if I stop and think about it.

[@CasualGuidesRS3]

Happy to help w zuk tips. Rsn casualguides

[@iLectronx]

I think afking is fine, but it should always be worse than active training by a fair margin. Although agility via silverhawks is an example of the skill itself not having enough training methods or having enough of a reward to warrant going to an agility course for example.

[@DTreatz]

Somewhat true, but it needs to be _more_ afk, like _actual_ afk, not, i have to keep checking the screen every 15 seconds. That's not AFK, runescapers have bastardized the phrase AFK.

[@Bob_Da_Bilda]

I think part of the reason why I do some afk methods (Hole vs Actual Dungeonneering) is the feeling of constant reward. If I had ever leveled during a Dungeoneering floor, rather than leveling at the end of the floor every time, I would feel the progress I was making. But I have to commit to an entire floor, and everything that entails before I get a clue what my progress/hr is. It's demotivating. In the hole, I can watch my XP go up, measure it with Alt1, do as much as I want to (or as much as the Heat mechanic will allow), and play another game at the same time. But for the most part, I enjoy active play. I would prefer active methods, I just want active rewards as well.

[@OEx25]

Disagree. Going for 120 All is officially an endgame goal in the game and takes far too long for the vast majority of players without AFKscape. I think many of us love RuneScape BECAUSE it can be played so casually. There are plenty of great games out there that require an Active play style. RuneScape is the best game for me as a busy adult with minimal time for Active gaming.

[@yank33yey]

I love that your can afk alot of things, but I would like to see that somewhat active clicking always would be more rewarding than full afk. It's something they've started doing more and more with like necromancy rituals and archaeology and forinthry construction

[@demetriojunior164]

There are 2 main reasons on why afkScape is a thing. 1 - Most people up to today work too hard or study too hard, so whenever we have time to spare playing rs3, we wanna chill out, and thats it. 2 - Most of active activities in rs3 (with exception of bossing) are not really engaging. that is the reality of the game. most of it is repeatition or annoyance. compare it to LoL or card games, where interaction actually has a meaninful impact.

[@DTreatz]

Definitely #2 the hardest

[@Knuffeldraak]

It's not really that runescape is "too afk". It's just that the game, as per design, is way too grindy. Stuff takes a lot of time to grow, especially since RS3 starts to push towards 120's ever since Dungeoneering.

[@callmecreamy391]

Honestly anything past 99 is just for the capes like 120 all and being able to click every 15mins while working is a life saver. Can actually enjoy playing when I’m off work or have days off for more active stuff like boss logs, clues or some quests yet to be done. But it’s nice just being able to afk and not worry. I have 2 kids and not the same I had when I was 14.

[@Lonemelt]

I think because most of the player base are getting older and older and obviously at the same time they have less time to play the game regularly so RuneScape has to adapt and come up with more AFK methods so people still actually play the game

[@BeeBee-wy3ec]

Easy answer, we’re all adults now with full time jobs, wife, kids, responsibilities, etc.

[@TheBourbonWrench]

The xp I get from methods where I have to actually completely focus are simply not worth the effort. I can’t sit at my computer and focus on gaming like I could when I was a kid; but I can have my player afk training while i focus on real life things. I’d be more inclined to dedicate an hour of focusing if it was worthwhile.

[@javierlau3965]

I still remember training agility at gnome course (the most basic one) when I was 13 calling in sick for school as I had fever. I guess just as we grow, afk is just becoming more necessary if we decide to play this game as there is just too much to grind. As a father of two very young daughters and a full time job, I barely have the time to play video games but grinding on RS is getting easier and easier, which just suits my current life style, therefore the more afk it gets, the merrier.

[@arthurmartin7626]

I dont even have enough time to afk, when i do have time to play i find it to be holding all my attention

[@eddie1181]

the easiest way to look at it it, Runescape has an aging player base where a lot of us have work and families etc.. so being able to afk while skilling is amazing

[@NPCsemEXP]

Hello protoxx! I'm a big fan of your work with videos about runescape3. My nickname in the game is NPC without EXP, I've been playing for a long time, I think about 12 or 13 years if not more. This is what I have been observing for a long time with the evolution of the game. I think so, the game with afk skills I think is cool, but it should earn less exp and for people who are more active to gain more exp by interacting in the game. One thing I really miss and that would be cool was protein items for cutting firewood, like cutting bonsai trees, I don't know, just giving you an idea. Put the cape on all 200m exp. And one thing that I've been observing and that several people are complaining about is the combat mode, like there are several keys to press and pay attention to a boss or something like that. I think that if they changed a little to remove less combat skills, and put it like League of Legends or NewWorld (QWERDF), and the way to move the character, also having the possibility of walking instead of clicking on the screen using (AWSD) it would be an incredible evolution that many people would like and make combat mode easier. I'm one of many, who really have a lot of difficulty in combat, but I love the game. And also encourage the game to have bosses more in groups and have a greater chance of drops on the boss with more people in the instance and not least, Croesus is a great example of a really cool, fun boss that could include more of this type. Anyway, just giving you an idea, I love your work and sorry for something. =)

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Essentially turning Runescape into an ARPG? As much as that would be interesting it would have to be its own new game haha

[@rockshmo]

I like the balance, I like doing active things like slayer tasks and combat in general but if I want to multitask and watch a show or hang in discord with some friends and BS it's nice to have some semi afk options that don't require a lot of focus.

[@JustinCasualGaming]

i realize this may be a hot take, but i hope they go deeper into AFK'ability. Most of us that have been playing this game since 2002~ are now old, have full time jobs, and can't dedicate hours to grinding. I honestly hope they allow auto-clickers as soon as possible so i can just auto-mate/set it up in the morning, then go to work and forget about the game till i come back and have a full stack of 5k emerald necklaces done and ready to be sold on the GE for 2m~ an hour profit.

[@seanleroy5263]

Coming from the days of 2005 RuneScape I think it’s normal to look for the AFK method when possible. It’s also a bit of a privilege to get to the point in your account when you can AFK more effectively.

[@steveflatt9071]

Top tier gear costs BILLIONS, which when you think about it is absolutely nuts. Bear in mind in most MMO, you can grab end game gear really quickly in comparison to RS. Adults with jobs, kids, responsibilities need to afk to get anywhere near the GP to afford anything semi-good. THANKFULLY, the new direction of necro and melee player made armour has made a massive improvement for myself. Elder scrolls online does this best in my opinion, end game gear is attainable and cheap enough to get without ruining your entire year

[@WiscoDbo]

Honestly, I maxed by AFK training. Thats part of the reason I have switched to OSRS because the small list of non afk activities on RS3 are unappealing.

[@coltondonahue3]

I have got back into dungeoneering lately, and i have been quite enjoying it. I also train my other skills while doing that and get xp in the other skills as well.

[@hauddubius3706]

I have been afking ever since I started working full time after college. For me, it's how I grind my levelling by second monitoring while working. This is so I can use the little amount of time I have free outside of work and social activities to do the fun things, i.e PvM or questing. When I was going to school I had plenty of time to waste grinding out skills actively so it didn't matter to me that I wasn't doing something fun because I knew the skill would get me to the fun parts eventually. It's just not viable when I have so little free time because of work now though, so instead of grinding I'd rather be doing something more fun.

[@mcharge10]

Because being a classic player there was absolutely zero AFK - so it's like a weird guilty pleasure of just being able to sit and get XP for the things you'd used to have to manually do everything for. And I'm coming from true classic 2001 days of grinding wheat, smelting only 5 bars at a time, etc. Lob/coal certs, all that - but I do agree the game is a bit too AFK at times in RS3.

[@RockBandRS]

Like what most people have stated, the best thing about AFK gameplay is being able to progress your account while doing other things/responsibilities. I finished most of my remaining skills for 200m all while doing school work. Simply because they were AFKable skills. I do know people who refuse to do anything that isn't AFK, that's when I wonder why they play the game, if that's even "playing." Are you really playing a game where your only interaction with it is clicking once every 5-15 minutes?

[@cyborgninjamonkey]

I'm terrible at dividing my attention. If I bother logging in for more than bankstanding, I am either taking my time questing or I'm tick manipulating with maximum sweatiness.

[@normalcommenter8595]

I switched to rs3 from osrs precisely FOR the afk. I want a game that I can enjoy over the years and make progress with little playtime but simultaneously loads of playtime. I can work the entire day, and get nothing done for me, but because I was afking, maybe I managed to get a few hundred thousand xp or a few million gp throughout the day, so I can clock out of work and feel like I did something for ME that day despite having almost no time to do so.

[@BuddyFernz]

Afk is alright because alot of people play the game in a corner window while working. Nothing negative just a part of the game

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

They simply need to balance the content they put out between afk, semi afk, and full attention that way you can still have a ton to do when you dont want to afk.

[@WildernessMedic]

I have a busy life. If it’s not afk I’m rarely doing it. Ain’t no one got that much time to blow on a game.

[@rolandocastaneda4429]

I did afk iron mining most of the day yesterday and I had about 14k iron spirits. In About eight hours I used up 8k of them. I am so bored with mining that AFK seems to be the only solution. I used to love smithing and now I'm going to have to AFK smelting bars. I also tried to kill moss golems in my dungeon with slayer wildcards and I kept falling asleep back and forth in my dungeon. Not once did I die and only once did I sign and that was only when my level of food was sharks. I started contemplating your video yesterday when I thought RuneScape has been made too easy.

[@MzCatieShorts]

I play RS3 and do AFK stuff whilst i work on things. the biggest issue with RS3 right now is AFKing isnt that far behind interactive skilling. if they made interactive skills WAY more xp beneficial id be doing it more. but when AFKing Jelly fish is like 50-70k less per hour than doing Fishing frenzy... ima do jelly fish and make a bit of cash as well

[@avagrim9891]

It depends on the skill, your goal and your time. I´d say I´m an active player, whenever there is an active way, that is not insanely worse (in terms of xp or money), I´d choose that method, unless it´s not a complete pain in the ass for me, so I trie to balance efficiency, fun and productivity. But a lot of stuff is also designed to be afked. It also depends on the friends you have. If you are in a clan that likes to interact with other people, it is a lot more likley, that you will play active, but if you have a lot of work, or only a few friends, or play at times when barley someone is online on that list, there is no reason to not afk. The only way to make the game more interactive again is, to benefit active playstyles. Mining is a good example. If you don´t make use of rockattunities, you will get a laughable amount of resources and xp / h. So as a developer you can influence that, but you can´t influence the habbits of society, a society that gets less social interactive over time, by learning that afk=efficiency. Effort is often recognized as a bad thing nowadays, wich is sad, but a lot of people are not willing to put a lot of effort into something anymore. Interaction always means attention and effort, rewarding afk methods are a fuel to a behaviour, that doesn´t want to bother with the actual game, wich raises the question - why do you even "play" a game, when you don´t want to play the game? A society rabbit hole.

[@Dpower20]

I remember when, back in the day, AFK-ing was technically against the rules lol. Had to tell people to say they were 'multi-tasking' not 'AFK-ing' to avoid getting a ban :P How times have changed (for the better in this regard).

[@DTreatz]

If you think RuneScape is too "AFK" That says more about it's bad archaic design than it does about the players.

[@tsquatchmane]

The problem is everything is being developed to be afk, and the “active” training methods are actually low effort methods that are slightly more interactive and slightly more xp. If active methods were actually fun and rewarded the extra effort appropriately, people would likely train that way either for faster xp or because it’s not boring.

[@Hopeofhell]

I think the main reason to why both Runescapes have so much drive for AFK skill training is that most active training is either not that intresting or genuinly not that worth it compared to the AFK traininng methods. Hell i can point to the Shooting Stars update and the launch of Duke for AFK mining in OSRS and how much it exploded in use over normal active training.

[@c00lkid17]

5:38 I have been feeling this the past 7 days because I have been trying to utilize the final bit of my infinite porter and every second I can't afk mine I feel like I'm missing out. I'm genuinely looking forward to not having it anymore, so I stop feeling like I'm missing out...

[@bradyn6224]

I did that the first 3 days mate, quickly got bored and reminded myself there will be another event or I can make my own porters.

[@c00lkid17]

@bradyn6224 I've got under 24hrs left on the clock, about 30k bars in the bank, and a cymbal monkey in my brain struggling to hold on by a thread 🤕

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Remember to take a break and chill :) those event buffs aren't game breaking, just useful

[@lvh888]

I remember when a friend of me recommended to play RS3 instead of OSRS because it was more AFK. I am now almost 99 at all skills and due to dummies, proteans and much AFK 'work'. Awesome, I love it! 🙂

[@MountaindewM]

I am fine with things being AFKable. I think the best xp rates should ALWAYS be full effort. I did 120 necromancy while working, having a family and having other hobbies within a few weeks. I absolutely hate Dungeoneering. That is why I wait until Summer to do the summer event. I wouldn't be 110 dung without that. I still think it's a useless skill and needs a rework that adds actual dungeons with other rewards and way cooler things. Elite Dungeons are kind of neat but there needs to be more lower level dungeons and some dungeons that don't reward necessarily items but straight XP and tokens I think.

[@Sangheillioz]

I mean, I mostly play afk while I'm working. I like feeling like I'm progressing even when I'm not able to focus on the game.

[@professorlorenspokemon6152]

I get 1, maybe 2 hours after work to play. During work, I might be able to get 4 hours to afk. Maybe if they didn't make skills take 100 hours to max so I could get account progress faster than 1 skill a year

[@MrMoneyTree]

good vid man i agree , things like proteans and shit i cant even stand anymore , seems like they are throwing exp at new players to skip the game and all the shit ive done in the past , BRING BACK PVP EVENTS!

[@hierarchsgaming657]

I love the afk so much. It's helped me get into altscaping and now I'm enjoying rs on 7 accounts. My own army!

[@jenlwilder]

Solo dungeoneering has long been my favorite skill to actually train for this very reason. I absolutely use the most AFK methods for grindy skills because they're insanely boring. With dungeoneering, you get a bit of all the skills while progressing towards a goal, with occasional puzzles thrown in and a different dungeon map each time. I know that's not the popular opinion, lol.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Dungeoneering is a skill that actually requires skill to get decent XP rates at. It's unique for that alone

[@jeremiahwarmbier5224]

I love that a lot of it is AFK, because now I can play it in my busy. If it wasn't I wouldn't be playing. I started playing rs classic, I think 2002 when I was a wee lad, it was very grindy lol, that is not sustainable. After becoming an adult & owning businesses & having kids, gaming is a distant desire. Recently started playing rs3 again after learning of its afk ability. I love being able to have my ipad up at work while crunching numbers & building my rs character.

[@daveburrows9876]

I do look for tasks that are afk because it suits my approach to both the game and other things I enjoy in part because skilling is often so mind-numbingly dull. I don't agree that afk has a hardline time-based definition though. I think it's a matter of degree. Somethings are more afk than others which means you can attend to something else for longer periods of time.

[@thefaceless760]

To what you said about not being able to do both at once, your irl responsibilities and the game, I'd like to touch on that, in saying, the benefits of afking are beneficial for those in a gap year, I moved to a new country last year, and for the last 12 months, I'm not legally allowed to work, so when it comes to gap years, the afk nature of runescape is beneficial for mental health, and spectrum disorders, aswell as those who don't go out very much, I think it's a very unique engine that people complain about, rather than looking at the small things people enjoy

[@dragonprism]

I view the afk-ifying of RuneScape as our equivalent to raid-ready boosts in WoW, or MSQ skips in FFXIV.

[@Lucario7280]

Runescape was figured out to be a second monitor game, and jagex has acknowledged it several times.

[@TarokalRS]

I think it’s a balance, I afk things at work that are on the boring side and when I get on my PC I do the more active and engaging “fun” content

[@cubedpotatoeshd2479]

I like how i can go outside and smoke a whole blunt, then come back to 1m of ores porter'ed in my absence

[@jesusrico4804]

I love Afk thats why i did the switch from 07 to RS3. getting 30k and hour and having to be paying attention was so dumb

[@markwinters9785]

I like there is AFK ways to train in this game. The reason it works well is because let's be honest, most skilling/leveling combat (which is what people usually AFK) isn't all that exciting to play. So.. thats why I want to AFK. Plus, I am busy anyways. Quests and bossing is where the fun is to me and obviously why that stuff isn't really AFK-able.

[@tysaylorphoto]

I agree. It’s way too afk. It’s like do we even like this game anymore or do we just continue to play soullessly because we’ve put so much time into it that we can’t quit?

[@jimmygerano7163]

To me, and probably most players, it's a balance of effort and reward. AFKing usually has a decent reward for minimal effort whereas more active methods generally don't feel rewarding enough for the investment. I think a good example is actually woodcutting. Even though regular methods are low effort, lots of players will do the most low effort option unless they're needing specific logs for something.

[@neppy199]

as a person with alot of time i wish some skills had more active ways to do stuff because some things like archeology kinda feel like too much since its all only really afk also as an ironman i find it annoying that some things are technically a bit more efficient for me to afk

[@YuckaMountain]

And thus Jagex said: "Let there be AFK and AFK came...". Also it was Tolkien who wrote: "A day may come when the AFK of men fails. But it is not this day!"

[@ryannorth8699]

personally i'm a afk scaper with 3 monitors and a tablet i scape on 1 monitor watch prime/ netflix on another watch youtube vids on another while having my social media like messenger on my tablet however it's not often i'll use just 2 monitors for active things while watching guides like questing or skill leveling guides i do think though it should still be kept somewhat active because i want to be able to get the feeling i'm playing the game too so i wouldn't want to be able to go town and doing my shopping and come back because lets face it they have already lifted the log out timer from 5 mins to 10 mins so if this game doesn't die 10 years down the line for all we know they could end up removing the log out timer but yes i know a lot may argue thats never going to happen and their probably right but it's just a wild rediculous guess but no one can predict the future

[@RidoDrago]

I feel that some people are taking Runescape for some other game. 'The grind is long'. The grind IS the achievement. What are you going to do when everything is 99/120 and youve killed every possible boss 2000 times? The reason RS keeps me playing is because the sheer amount needed to max everything. Im 450 quest points, only 6 miniquests to go, but still have 67 runecrafting, 79 dungeoneering, 77 fishing and 82 cooking etc. So i desperatly need more quest to motivate me to skill more! Again, what am i with 99 summoning if there is no new summon to get in order to do a specific quest, 83 summoning seems to do the trick. Runescape has become a sandbox to me after finishing all quests etc where i need to make my own story and and have my own goals. This is where afk comes to play for me, i can afk while working on being busy with the family. Just like there is no real purpose for me left to actively skill, its as much of a purpose to afk them to enjoy my childhood game with nostalgia

[@lizardjama9834]

Archeology is my favorite skill because there is no incentive to boost your way to 99. I like the progression

[@justcus]

i almost exclusively play RS3 as a second monitor game. i look at it like an idle game+ the truth for me is, the time needed to max and get 120 or 200m is unreasonable to attempt in any way other than AFK. i still play on my main monitor with non AFK content occasionally. however, if it weren’t for the existence of decent afk training methods, i never would have maxed or achieved 120 in any skill. i don’t really like bossing on RS3 as i find the tick and combat system very clunky. if i want to play a game with combat emphasis, i find any other popular MMO does it better and single player RPGs do it even better than that. runescape has always been about slowly progressing my account and AFKing allows me to do just that. all while simultaneously playing a more engaging game or watching a show.

[@gatorbait9385]

Making things afk-able has given me a chance to actually get 99 in some skills. I will never get 99 mining in osrs, but in rs3 its not bad. I have an ironman thats only a year or 2 old and have over 85 mining.

[@Dylan-i3o7u]

I recently learned and practiced the Rust programming language for ~30 hours while AFKing RS3. I wouldn’t have it any other way ❤

[@DTreatz]

What is there to do that shouldn't be AFK? They killed PvP so they fked 1/3 of a demographic. You can't AFK quests. If you're not PvMing, then that means you're skilling, and why tf would I want to be made to stare at a screen while my character chop log, or hit rock. That "content" is outdated and boring afk, if anything they need *MORE* afk because RuneScaper players have a _bastardized_ sense of the phrase "AFK" , AFK isn't staring at something else for 30 seconds. What they should do is raise exp caps of skills and make engaging skilling have 2 things: a full AFK method with _reasonably_ slower xp, and an engaging skilling method with much higher xp rates for the autismo players to "compete" or whatever it is they do. This isn't 2001 anymore, this "content", *_Isn't_* and because the playerbase is overwhelming not new players, but people who have _been_ playing the game for the last 10-20 years and their alts. If they want new players, they need to add the fix to that skilling, make good pvp, more pvm, more quests.

[@Drudges]

realistically the only reason i play runescape anymore is because how afk it can be. when i want to play the game, i can play, and when i cant really play the game i can still play the game

[@thelazysword3789]

I wouldn't be playing Runescape if I couldn't AFK while doing other things.

[@A1995S]

For better or for worse afk skilling and mtx in RS3 has shifted away from the oldschool mentality that maxing out your skills/xp is a true acomplishment. True achievements in RS3 now seem to come from pvm achievements and completionism, while afk xp grinds allow you to do something more relaxed in-between the active content while still progressing your character. Don't get me wrong though, I definitely think there needs to be checks and balances between the effictiveness of active vs passive content so that passive content results in longer grinds with fewer gp/resource rewards vs active content. We should never be in a situation where the AFK/passive methods of doing something are objectively the best, but I love that I have the option to run this game in the background while I'm working and get microdoses of dopamine from my character bashing his face against a rock.

[@Dabubabyboi]

The level gaps are insane, and most of them come with doing a mechanic that takes 10-40 seconds to comeplete with very little engagement. After coming back after 4 or 5 years. All the best stuff is top tier end game. Which isnt a problem. But means you need 500-1000 hrs for all to do any of it. Its better to run a different game, do work, or something else you enjoy while the mind numbing grind continues

[@Dabubabyboi]

Also this seems to be the only game I can really tell where the fan base actively don't want to play it but will still want the levels. They love rs3 and want to enjoy it..... but actively want as little engagement as they can. It's pretty interesting

[@MrFearlesskiller]

RS3 has been afk for like 5 years now. Way better like this for people with a life

[@jakabrobert96]

I easily prefer afk skilling but the few skills that require attention, I still enjoy. Like dungeoneering. I had a blast while going from 90 to 99 in a few days. And that grind is still far from over, lv120 is still far away.

[@9k827]

i agree. i gave up on trying to talk to people at seren stones. i know i like to pay attention to the seren spirits.

[@445588997]

Unfortunately, adult life demands my attention to many other things... Back when I started playing rs in secondary school, I can play with 100% attention. Now, there are just endless crap waiting for my attention...

[@benjaminj8642]

That's the problem with addiction isn't it? No matter what Jagex does so many rs3 players are too invested to say enough is enough. I'm cool with afk methods, but as you said it directly correlates to more aggressive MTX and watered down training methods that make getting 99's, 120's, and 200M less of an achievement. I'm sure we'll be way worse off at this time next year, the road rs3 is going down is dim.