Running Four EMD Engines In A Ship Engine Room 12,000 HP

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@johnwright291
@johnwright291 3 жыл бұрын
I had an older V12 567 EMD. 567 cubic inches per cylinder rather than the later 645 model. These engines are a joy to work on. You could pull a cylinder liner, head, piston and rod out all in one piece in about half an hour. Each cylinder is like a separate engine and can be rebuilt one cylinder at a time. Even the cam shafts were split into stub shafts and could be replaced individually for each cylinder. They were truly designed with convenience for working on in mind. Mine was in a 90 foot tug.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I've worked on the late 567 (I think a C model) and even old Cleveland engines. I can't agree with you more about how easy they are to work on. It's excellent.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
I’m on a tug that has 8-645 motors all roller bearings. I like these engine but hate the factory oil mess on these things. Why not run dry sump oil injection like the sled engines. Fairbanks Morse and Sachs diesel D600L had oil injection tanks.Rotax 850 etec turbo R scaled up to 760CID per jug anyone
@johnwright291
@johnwright291 2 жыл бұрын
@@jlo13800 my 567 EMD had a pump plumbed into the base or the sump of the engine which made a oil change quite easy and clean.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 2 жыл бұрын
That is how the 645s I work with now are. Everything is hard lined to lube oil tanks and waste tanks for the old oil. Thanks for watching!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
I got 6 gallons of XD-100 BRP oil running through my 8v92 2 stroke turbo. I let some off the gear VRO pump go to a valve I puked to tge fuel pipe to max and burn.VRO at its finest. An ethanol powered EMD 16-710 with castor 927 maxima would be a fun experiment. A scaled up version of a rotax 850 etec turbo to a 1200 CID inline 6 2 stroke and power a mini tug on ethanol with tge castor 2 stroke oil. My 8v92 has. Garret ball bearing turbo not sure his tge 710 is. All deutoiscsnd emd run on anti anti friction bearings with very hardened 4340 steel crankshaft
@Shane-Singleton
@Shane-Singleton 3 жыл бұрын
I love seeing a very clean and well lit engine room. Especially when it is packed full of GM 2-stroke monsters.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! Thanks for watching!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 3 жыл бұрын
At 2:40 is see it says 3505 hp @ 900 rpm. HP = (T * RPM)/5252, this 2 stroke thing is making 20,453 ft lbs torque!
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
@@jlo13800 Bruce, thanks for doing the math and adding this impressive information! Cheers!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 3 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget i think i saw 3505 hp on the plate there. now theres fairbanks morse trident OP 2 stroke turbo going fromm 5000 hp and 10000 hp, Cooper bressem has a 330-16 natural gas piston port 2 stroke that does 9300 hp at 514 rpm's. Skidoo 850 rotax ETEC and polaris patriot 850 turbo are insane! Avtaes power is doung good with the cummins ACE op and 10.6l 2 strokes. So i though how about make a OP 4 piston twin out of 2 850 rotax etec's for a 1700 OP trail sled, same with polaris patriot. I was thiking of a mini napier Deltic OP made out of 3 60 deg mercury optimax 3.2L stroker out board big blocks for a 9.6L OP 2 stroke uniflow.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
@@jlo13800 Your Deltic creation would be nothing short of incredible. Make sure you record whatever you end up with!
@busoldmanphil7293
@busoldmanphil7293 3 жыл бұрын
Great camera work. Finally somebody stops the camera on labels and parts so we can pause and look at them. Also, thanks for the captions.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the kind words!!
@38911bytefree
@38911bytefree 3 жыл бұрын
It is basically 4 EMD LOCOs going for a sail !!!!!!! NICEE !!!!!!!!!.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I never thought of that, very true lol.
@NoTaboos
@NoTaboos 3 жыл бұрын
Easily THE most exciting video that has ever appeared in my YT recommended list. 😴
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@mikus4242
@mikus4242 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks. Several of classes of pre WW2 US Battleships used turbo electric propulsion. Generation was by steam turbine instead of diesel. It is really revealing how many additional pumps and systems are required for operation. Lubrication, cooling, air startup, hydraulics. And it all has to operate 100’s of hours continuously!
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I've worked on a few steam turbine ships but never a turbo-electric one. I've always wanted to see it. The steam plants are very labor and maintenance intensive.
@nounoufriend1442
@nounoufriend1442 2 жыл бұрын
Great video ,worked on the EMD 710 engines on Locomotives in UK , ours are V12 with electronic fuel control , no fuel rack or governor like these 645's , not loads different though. We have woodward governors on older loco's though they look similar but with no controls on top like yours have
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for watching and sharing!
@amandabarbato5079
@amandabarbato5079 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I love the signature sunset clip
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the kind words!
@MrMopar413
@MrMopar413 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome video. Brought back some memories when I worked on towboats on the Columbia River system that had 649 EMD’s and Caterpillar engines, hydraulic steering systems, air starts, it was always fun to roll an engine over with the air starts when some poor un-expecting soul wasn’t aware it was going to happen 🤪🤪🤪🤪👍
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the kind words!
@shaynewheeler9249
@shaynewheeler9249 2 жыл бұрын
Titanic 2 engine cylinder engineering diesel generator room
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, thanks for watching!
@shaynewheeler9249
@shaynewheeler9249 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you from
@Romans--bo7br
@Romans--bo7br 2 жыл бұрын
EMD 645's... not "649"...... unless you're thinking of the Series 149 Detroits which were also used extensively on River boats and Tugs.
@georgeshannon9370
@georgeshannon9370 3 жыл бұрын
Nice seeing a completed engine. I'm retired from a company which built and machined the oil pans and air box covers.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
These were great examples and I was glad to show them. Thanks for watching!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
I’m now on a tug that has roller bearing emd 8-645 tge generator is 6-71 1200 rpm 80 kw. Sounds like tge skidoo 850 etec turbo I heard run at a dealer. Nugde the throttle at just above idle at 1200 for that rotax jimmy sound. I’m sure tge Polaris 850 patriot khaos would sound tge same. It would nice to cut off tge ugly messy oil dump crap off the emd and gave a separate oil tank in the wall with big vro pumps then take it and mix with the fuel. Castor 927 maxima 2 stroke oil. I already got my 8v92 2 stroke turbo on 6 gallons of BRP XD-100 etec oil I pull off and mix. Eventually go dry sump with 2 VRO. She runs smoother with s bit more power. Scale up s rotax or Polaris to 750 CID per cyl and run alcohol with dry sump oil injection like the sleds fo and power a tugboat. A giant alcohol rotax DFI powered tugboat. Or better yet an opposed piston version of tge Polaris patriot and scaled up. mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0058689.pdf An oil injected dry sump cummins op ACE 2 stroke no oil change required.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 2 жыл бұрын
Wow man I love it. That is extremely fascinating.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
Niw rig up a dry sump and a few VRO pumps for done home made oil injection. Next run ethanol. This would be a fun experiment for an EMD 16-710
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
Castor 927 macimay
@3RTracing
@3RTracing 3 жыл бұрын
The marine application tag is from Progress Rail division of Caterpillar. These locomotive engines were no longer able to meet Tier 4 for pollution standards. One of EMD's attempts to do so was to dramatically raise the exhaust post combustion temperatures to decrease unburned hydrocarbons and other combustion components. That effort raised the NOx levels above above acceptable T4 levels, but probably met standards for diesels operating out to sea. Interesting. Those had to be some late F7's by looking at those shiny stainless steel builder plates.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that, I wonder if raising the exhaust Temps negatively effected valve and turbo life. Marine emission standards are quite low and these engines in particular were exempt. 1999 build engines.
@stephenhunter70
@stephenhunter70 3 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget What I heard was they developed a four stroke engine which got moved to to Caterpillars mining division when they acquired EMD. That 4 stroke engine was T4 compliant! Why they would not allow EMD to use it, I don't know!
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
New EMD locomotives are 4-stroke and sold under the EMD name.
@stephenhunter70
@stephenhunter70 3 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget Yah that's right. But it's not the 4 stroke engine they originally designed.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenhunter70 gotcha. I'm really not in the know with new developments, just old junk.
@191895
@191895 Жыл бұрын
LST engineman here..we ran Cleveland 16-278A 16 cylinder engines, they were the first cousins to the EMD 567C engines, they shared a lot of parts. The Clevelands had a longer crankshaft, each crank throw was supported by a main bearing.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget Жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of the old Clevelands. Check out my page for some videos of an 8-268a engine I worked on. Thanks for watching!!
@chrishulse7268
@chrishulse7268 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, worked as a mate on both Pathfinder and Henson for a few years, brings back some great memories!
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! She was an excellent ship with a good crew.
@d2sfavs
@d2sfavs Жыл бұрын
great video EMDs will always be my favorite this is the first iv seen how electromotive drive on a ship works thanks for sharing
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kobusdutoitbosman6240
@kobusdutoitbosman6240 3 жыл бұрын
...just breathtakingly powerful and amazingly well run, maintained, and, yes, lit up as machine or engine room. WELL DONE the engineers, OC! Superb display of going about your work in the sterling, top draw levels. The joie elsewhere therefrom is untold. A ‘bespoke’ outfit carrying its own brand spotlessly! Touché from ZA’s Fairest Cape Winelands!! Let’s have some more...??! 👊🔥💯 bos.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the kind words! Certainly one of the cleaner engine rooms I've worked in with exceptional engineers at the controls.
@jeffycramy3463
@jeffycramy3463 Жыл бұрын
I love it. It reminds me of the engine rooms onboard theUSS PROTUS ( AS-19) 1980-1981.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget Жыл бұрын
I'll eventually add more videos of these engines being overhauled and run after rebuild. Thanks for watching!
@flybyairplane3528
@flybyairplane3528 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I was amazed about ‘TURBOS, ‘ as most had ROOTS BLOWERS, MANthat is the CLEANEST motor room , & the lovely sound of 2 CYCLE DIESELS, many on railroad locomotives. CHERIO🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇺🇸🇺🇸
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
It would be fun to mount my omc rotary wankle 2 stroke sled engine on something in the engine room
@MerrimanDevonshire
@MerrimanDevonshire 3 жыл бұрын
Worked at EMD for a spell (Post GM spinoff), good to see the product still at sea.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yes it's always a welcome sight. EMD still dominates the tug & pushboat industry.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
I just got on a tug that has roller bearing emd 8-645 motors
@Rev1Kev
@Rev1Kev Жыл бұрын
The Great Lakes 1000 foot long freighter, Stewart J Cort has 4 20cyl 645emds powering her, around 14,500 HP
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget Жыл бұрын
Great lakes shipping is unmatched. Love all the old boats still out there. Thanks for watching.
@scottburns2600
@scottburns2600 4 ай бұрын
The Great Lakes ships built in Sturgeon Bay Wisconsin in the 1970s had those setups. This arrangement reminds me of my time on the MV Burns Harbor
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 4 ай бұрын
One of our QMEDs started working on these engines on the great lakes. Just another thing that makes those lakes "great". Thanks for watching!
@scotthinkle6613
@scotthinkle6613 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. I work on locomotives and work on those engines a lot.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Thanks for watching!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 3 жыл бұрын
the 2 stroke is the most powerful diesel ever, way more power ful than any gas engine which is a joke.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Chris got his 4 rotor charged cooled wankel rotary boat motor running. It’s a moller international Rotapower 4 rotor 2120cc. Jesus runs silkolene pro 2 SX 2 stroke oil with oil injection. He got tired of the Rotron 700cc 2 rotor engine. I got an omc rotary wankel 2 stroke sled motor to work on.
@JamesAdams-bd9df
@JamesAdams-bd9df 3 жыл бұрын
So Stuart and Stevenson is who actually assembled the generator package. I've worked on a few of there units that were 40ft conexes, usually MTU 4000 series but I worked on a real old one that had a big deutz v16.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't sure how Stewart & Stevenson fit into the equation, thanks for sharing that. MTU dominates the high horsepower marine diesel field these days. I've worked on a few ships with 2 20 cylinder MTU units coupled to a gas turbine for propulsion. Thanks for watching!
@JamesAdams-bd9df
@JamesAdams-bd9df 3 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget yes, usually when i came across Stewart and Stevenson units, they were large mobile units like Sunbelt rental trailers and no 2 of them were built the same and all of them had some kind of trick you had to do to start or stop them.
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 3 жыл бұрын
Most likely S&S did the rebuilds, especially on the generator portion of the gen set. They rebuilt a ton of airport equipment back in my day when I worked for Delta. Practically all of the ground equipment is manufactured by TUG which is engineered by S&S and is also a subsidiary. Some of the oldest Hough jet tugs we had were from the 60s & had gensets with 4-71s in them. The newest aircraft were too picky about the quality of power & wouldn't accept power from them but they'd light up an older 57/67/MD88 just fine 50 years later.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
S&S has had their hand in countless things including building military trucks. These engine have only been overhauled once, at a shipyard in Singapore. The S&S tags are original from new.
@tonyanderson7418
@tonyanderson7418 3 жыл бұрын
Do the engines not have a 5 yearly 'Class Survey'' strip down or are the rules different in US? Nice video btw :)
@jwatt9570
@jwatt9570 Жыл бұрын
Loved those EMDs. Worked on SeDco oil rigs for years. Easy to work.on.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget Жыл бұрын
Reliability through simplicity. An excellent plant indeed. Thanks for watching!
@william38022
@william38022 6 ай бұрын
What kind of ship does this power?
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 6 ай бұрын
@@william38022 Diesel- electric government ship
@frankdefreze3999
@frankdefreze3999 3 жыл бұрын
Love seeing all that GM diesel power
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, neat the ship was entirely GM 2-stroke. Thanks for watching!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
Now get 800 gallons of silkolene pro 2 SX 2 stroke oil and fill up everything in there to see what it does!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
The generator could be a Kati thing powered by a scaled up Polaris 850 patriot scaled to 690 CID inline 6 2 stroke running ethanol and amsoil interceptor oil injection. Scale up tge Polaris to 1150 CID inline 6 2 stroke for an alchol ethanol oil injected turbo 2 stroke mini tugboat!how about a cat c-175 v-16 2 stroke conversion with a snowmobile port pattern! MTU is great for another fun 2 stroke conversion.
@bat__bat
@bat__bat 3 жыл бұрын
It's not every day you're in a multi million dollar engineering wet dream. Some of those are functional antiques. I've got my EGSA certificate, those gens are quite amazing, 8 pole slow spinners.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! They truly are relics even though they were made only 22 years ago.
@mistamista_1572
@mistamista_1572 28 күн бұрын
best video I seen yet!!!👍
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 28 күн бұрын
@@mistamista_1572 thanks for watching!
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 3 жыл бұрын
Talk about an engine room you could eat your dinner off!
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The crew really took pride in this one it was a pleasure to be a part of it. Thanks for watching!
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 3 жыл бұрын
The complexity of these engines is over the top. Taking care of all four engines must be a 24/7 job for the crew.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! These are regarded as some of the most simple and easy to maintain diesel engines. The crew loves them lol. Cheers!
@dknowles60
@dknowles60 3 жыл бұрын
dont need much care. they were built for the rail roads and last for ever
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! In the life of these engines, they have only been overhauled once. The turbos do fail around the 7-10k hour mark but otherwise are trouble free.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a big ball bearing turbo!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
My 8v92 2 stroke had a Garrett BB turbo.
@gcrauwels941
@gcrauwels941 20 күн бұрын
I used to work on a few Stewart & Stevenson modified Detroit Diesels in the day. They did pretty good with GM two cycle engines.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 20 күн бұрын
@@gcrauwels941 They certainly did. Not sure what their part in these EMDs was but none the less it works. Thanks for watching!
@gcrauwels941
@gcrauwels941 20 күн бұрын
@@FixAndForget Probably mostly in fuel timing and delivery.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 20 күн бұрын
@gcrauwels941 Did some looking around last night and turns out they just supplied them for the government contract. Biggest modification is the S&S stickers on the side. Thanks for watching!
@montey1017
@montey1017 3 жыл бұрын
The old S&S stickers in everything 🤣🤣 reminds me of working on 149s in hospitals
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! It reminds me of the 12v92 "high performance" yacht engines I worked on as a kid.
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of being back at the airport. S&S owns TUG which makes practically all ground equipment you'll see buzzing around aircraft at any airport. I'm a former Delta employee, got a lot of years in working on that stuff.
@matthewbeasley7765
@matthewbeasley7765 11 ай бұрын
That much power at 600V is crazy, especially going to a transformer right away. Someone loves running many parallel runs of fat wire.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 11 ай бұрын
When I first came to the ship I was also surprised since the stationary EMDs I had seen were 4160v. Apparently 600VAC is standard for sub-modern diesel electric ships. I think I have some clips of the SCR room in one of my other videos. Thanks for watching!
@lotsofcases6522
@lotsofcases6522 3 жыл бұрын
GE Peterborough. Defunct now, the buildings are still there though
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks for watching!
@nzsaltflatsracer8054
@nzsaltflatsracer8054 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tour. So the turbo is mechanically driven as a blower to start it then declutched in run mode? I've worked on 53 series all the way up to 149 series Driptroit's over the years but never EMD's although I was nearly run over by one once.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yes the turbo is centrifically engaged to the accessory gear system when the engine is running under light load. Since these engines are generator sets, they run at a constant 900 RPM. At about 35% load the turbo declutches and preforms like a standard turbo would.
@stephenhunter70
@stephenhunter70 3 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget It's something EMD has done for decades on their locomotive engines.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
The added complexity and lower reliability kept it out of most marine applications.
@stephenhunter70
@stephenhunter70 3 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget Reliability is why the railways used in preference to some other engines.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenhunter70 No doubt EMD is the most reliable US made medium speed diesel. The turbos were the most complex part and basically the only thing that would fail and require changing every 7-10K hours. So many companies did not want the added cost/downtime and stuck with the roots blowers.
@allencefalu3983
@allencefalu3983 Жыл бұрын
Looks to be one of Seacors old AHTS vessels. If so, Stewart and Stevenson supplied the engines and alternators.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget Жыл бұрын
I'm going to look up that class. This isn't a tug but I do believe the EDG was supplied by Stewart & Stevenson.
@adriannewman1322
@adriannewman1322 3 жыл бұрын
Clean engine room. How much fuel do you'll hold
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I don't remember the bunker statistics off hand but the ship had a cruising range of 12,000 NM without refueling.
@53bigmikejones
@53bigmikejones 3 жыл бұрын
USS Clamagore, SS343, had four emd engines and all but one purred like this. Our number 1 had been an issue for 20 plus years. DBF
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I've been on a few old fleet boats including the Clamagore. Never heard of the Winton/Cleveland engines being referred to as EMD although that's what became EMD later. Check out my channel for a video of a Cleveland 268 start up. 🍻 cheers!
@Romans--bo7br
@Romans--bo7br 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Jones..... The Clamagore was powered by four 16-278A Wintons (Pre-Cleveland and re-design).... Not EMD's. They were a completely different design (though somewhat similar in design function) in comparison to the later Cleveland & EMD's.
@Romans--bo7br
@Romans--bo7br 2 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget... Great Video(s) on your channel... have "liked and subscribed". Great camera work... love the pausing on numerous attendant "badging" / ID Plates. If I'm not mistaking, the USS Clagamore was powered with four 16-278A's... which were of a completely different design, compared to the later Cleveland prime movers, which of course was later absorbed by GM and the EMD years (under GM ownership.. then Greenbrier Holdings, now Cat/Progress Rail since Dec.2010). Also, I don't know if it has happened yet, but the Clagamore was/is scheduled for scrapping, This Year (2022), sorry to say.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 2 жыл бұрын
@@Romans--bo7br many thanks. I have a few more EMD videos I'll post when I get off the ship in a few months. I was able to see the Clamagore in 2015 while visiting on another ship. The interior was in good shape but by then the decision had already been made to cut it up. Hull was very deteriorated even then. Cheers!
@georgew.5639
@georgew.5639 3 жыл бұрын
I suspect that there is an auxiliary power unit that allows the main engines to be shut down without losing electrical power.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Hi George, without shore power being connected there is no other source of power (besides the EDG). One main engine is kept online to produce house power when not underway. Thanks for watching!
@mikeneal3834
@mikeneal3834 2 жыл бұрын
Does General electric make engines for the marine industry also, i know they are a big manufacturer of railroad locomotives?
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are found in some marine applications but not often. Thanks for watching!
@leonpano
@leonpano 9 ай бұрын
Is this diesel electric ship(like how diesel electric locomotive works?)
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 9 ай бұрын
Similar in general concept but all other aspects are different. Engines run like a normal stationary generator at constant 60Hz 600V and control systems and propulsion motors are vastly different. Thanks for watching!
@isakjohansson7134
@isakjohansson7134 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool!🤙Is it a great lake freighter?
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Ocean-going Government ship.
@3RTracing
@3RTracing 3 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget ah ha only a GovSec crew would be tasked with keeping an engine room so clean. Not so much commercial marine entity.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
@@3RTracing It is a government ship crewed by civilian contractors. Many commercial tug engine rooms share the same cleanliness. In the marine field it is a safety issue not just for looks. Thanks for watching!
@okiedoke6373
@okiedoke6373 3 жыл бұрын
For those of you that missed it it's 3347 amps
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching & adding that!
@dioniciogonzalrz9810
@dioniciogonzalrz9810 10 ай бұрын
Hola me gustaria certificarme en estos Motores en Mexico, conoce alguna empresa Certificadora
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mr1bienvenu1
@mr1bienvenu1 2 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories of working for Crowley Marine Services.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The old Crowley Puerto Rico boats were cool.
@rickchapman9232
@rickchapman9232 3 ай бұрын
What sea craft is this on?
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 ай бұрын
@@rickchapman9232 Government ship. Thanks for watching!
@leehanna4929
@leehanna4929 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. What vessel or type of vessel is this?
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! T-AGS class
@3RTracing
@3RTracing 3 жыл бұрын
can you identify the vessel these were on? Thanks
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
T-AGS class
@chuck1352
@chuck1352 Жыл бұрын
when i was in the navy iwas in number 3 engine room of an lst . we had 2 v 16 alco diesel mains and a v8 generator but it was not guite that clean
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget Жыл бұрын
I've yet to see an Alco running. It's certainly on my list, this ship was particularly well taken care of. Thanks for watching!
@slowpoke96Z28
@slowpoke96Z28 2 жыл бұрын
And that's only 2 running. Imagine the racket with all 4 at full tilt.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! It gets pretty noisy down there with all 4 loaded up.
@TheBlibo
@TheBlibo 12 күн бұрын
Why run 4 high speed diesels when one or two medium speed will do the job Not a criticism of the engines but a question into the thought behind the choice
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 12 күн бұрын
@@TheBlibo No worries! These are medium speed (900rpm). There are two reasons for this configuration, one this is a government ship so redundancy is a factor and two, cruising speed only requires 2 engines but when higher speeds are required the bigger 16cyl engines are called online. Thanks for watching!
@user-lm8fx6kc1b
@user-lm8fx6kc1b 3 жыл бұрын
Someone had Del Taco burrito
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
I really need to edit that out. Still have no idea what caused that. Thanks for watching!
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 3 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget I thought it was the emergency combustion gas supply.
@66Fairlane
@66Fairlane 3 жыл бұрын
How long does the lube oil last?
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! On ships the engines share a common lube oil system (dry sump) where the lube oil is constantly being settled, centrifuged, and filtered. This keeps the oil good for very long periods of time. If it wasn't for the turbos gradually thinning out the oil its life would be almost indefinite. The oil is regularly tested and changed when necessary. Interval changes with varying engine hours and turbo/load percentage.
@3RTracing
@3RTracing 3 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget some of the late EMD locomotives (DD40a X) never had their oil changed. It was just religiously filtered, dried, and kept in excellent condition. And yes to your point, metallurgy tests and other chemistry test were performed on very regular intervals.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
@@3RTracing That's very interesting. Did the locomotives have on-board purifiers or was it done at an interval in the shops? Thanks for sharing
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
Since it’s a 2 stroke it burns some oil.
@TheTheratfarmer
@TheTheratfarmer 11 ай бұрын
They ran great, tested them.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hormyakaraga4034
@hormyakaraga4034 2 жыл бұрын
Bonjour j'aimerais savoir le fonctionnement d'une locomotive
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@RodgerMudd
@RodgerMudd Жыл бұрын
Ah yes the EMD engine. We rebuilt the 12 567 A. Diesel electric tug had 4 of them.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of a tug with 4 engines. Must have been a monster! What was the name? Thx for sharing
@RodgerMudd
@RodgerMudd Жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget USCG Cherokee
@chipperlee4431
@chipperlee4431 Жыл бұрын
looks like my old engine room usns pathfinder
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget Жыл бұрын
Hey Chipper, this on is Mary Sears. Your jacket still hangs by the coffee maker in the control room on Pathfinder.
@glennschlorf1285
@glennschlorf1285 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had 4 of them in a power house
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I have a video of 6, 20-710 EMDs running at a power station in Saipan I'll post one day. Thanks for watching!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
Are they about 4MW each or around there.
@crocbaitaussie5204
@crocbaitaussie5204 3 жыл бұрын
These beasts have to hook in and work for a living when they are marine engines. Great to watch
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The only issue with this set up is they rarely got to work as hard as they needed to!
@TheTheratfarmer
@TheTheratfarmer 11 ай бұрын
20 cylider EMD ran great.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 10 ай бұрын
Two 12s and two 16s in this engine room. Not bad for 100k hours of service!
@RDC_Autosports
@RDC_Autosports 2 жыл бұрын
😂 fkin 4000 hp electric motor holy craaap!!
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty impressive right? Thanks for watching!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
The HOS Ironhorse had 4500 hp Siemens 1150 rpm motors. They could got in your bedroom as they were small for their power rating. The 3 bow thrusters had 1800 hp Siemens motors that would fit in your bathroom. They ran of 640 VAC
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 2 жыл бұрын
@@jlo13800 what were the prime movers?
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget Man 2 stroke inline 8 ethanol/methanol oil injected 2 stroke turbos!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget the ethanol just started the mann 2 strokeds inline 8's, after that they were evacuated and nitrogen/hydrogen was in place and the tesla abrupt pulse electrogravitic shockwave was used to push the pistons down using zero point enegy and the generator could be totally fuelless in this state and powered the siemens generators wich ran the 4500 hp siesmes motors! a pulsed plasma 2 stroke engine! Nikola tesla could explanie it more than i could
@RodgerMudd
@RodgerMudd Жыл бұрын
I miss being at sea. The world of crime and trouble was left behind. Now the USA is going to hell.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 10 ай бұрын
Yeah good and bad, being away during the high gas prices and global insanity is nice but sailing isn't what it used to be. A lot more work and BS and a lot less time ashore.
@sreed8570
@sreed8570 3 жыл бұрын
Whats funny is the low rev's, for most average engine's 900 rpm would be just a high idle.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! These engines are classed as "medium speed". Check out my other videos of engines that only run 100 RPM max. Cheers!
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
Thats those giant ship 2 strokes line Man or Wartidla. There’s a Man methanol 2 stroke
@john5321
@john5321 3 жыл бұрын
Nice skid mounted engines, they are not shock qualified..no pmg, so batteries? 16 cylinder vice 20..hmmm
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! They loose their skid mounted advantage with the marine lube oil system. Air start so no batteries. 24v emergency governor controls with a battery bank in the EDG room. I'm not familiar with pmg, what's that? The ship is overpowered with 12s and 16s which leads to wet stack problems already although it would be cool to have 20s.
@john5321
@john5321 3 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget Nimitz class carriers (I used to build) have permanent magnet generators to flash field and provide control power. They are mounted on the right bank where the camshaft is on the turbo end. I am running a 20 cyl for emergency power that has a shaft to run a generator blower for cooling and use 60 cells for field flashing and relay starting with 4 air start motors.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
@@john5321 That is a very interesting setup. I appreciate you sharing and I'll do some homework on the above. Thanks again!
@daleolson3506
@daleolson3506 10 ай бұрын
Smooth
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 10 ай бұрын
They do really well with a constantly changing load from the 10,000 HP propulsion motors. Very forgiving plant as long as they aren't wet stacked. Check out my other videos for more EMD stuff and Thanks for watching!
@hughjarse4627
@hughjarse4627 3 жыл бұрын
15:36 nice fart
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap what the heck is that?? I didn't listen to any of the audio when I edited this. Thanks for watching and letting me know!
@douglasschaefer3750
@douglasschaefer3750 8 ай бұрын
Sounds run
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 8 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.
@paulsnook5408
@paulsnook5408 4 ай бұрын
Please stop talking about its massive horsepower. It’s the engines torque that really is the main force of power. It’s big torque that swings a multi ton propeller. Rpm and horsepower carries the torque. Torque is king on power always Pease mention the torque aswell it’s so important!!
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment Paul! I'll be sure to add that number in later videos. HP is still how size and power of these engines is shown, hence why they have the HP rating stamped on the side and not torque. Thanks for watching.
@TheTheratfarmer
@TheTheratfarmer 11 ай бұрын
20 cylidar.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 11 ай бұрын
The inboard ones are 12 cyl and the outboard pair are 16 cyl.
@oilstovesandmore
@oilstovesandmore 3 жыл бұрын
Did you fart at 15:36 ?
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
No I've been meaning to edit that out. All I can guess is it was the auto focus on my camera lens. Thanks for watching!
@oilstovesandmore
@oilstovesandmore 3 жыл бұрын
@@FixAndForget i liked the video ! Very clean engine room 👍👍
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton man. Check out my other videos of some not so clean engine rooms. Cheers!
@terrelmchenry9524
@terrelmchenry9524 3 жыл бұрын
I'VE BUILT THE TURBOS FOR THOSE ENGINES...
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The turbos were quite complex and certainly the most interesting piece of the engine.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 жыл бұрын
Does tge turbos have a ceramic silicon nitride bearing in there?
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 3 жыл бұрын
Just bring your fuel card
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 3 жыл бұрын
This would be a great way to build reward points. Thanks for watching!
@chiefjohnsonBR549
@chiefjohnsonBR549 10 ай бұрын
👍💯👍
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TheTheratfarmer
@TheTheratfarmer 11 ай бұрын
Back up power.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 10 ай бұрын
Main generators for house load and electric propulsion motors. I have seen 20-710 units used for power on small islands. Thanks for watching!
@TheTheratfarmer
@TheTheratfarmer 11 ай бұрын
EMd's.
@FixAndForget
@FixAndForget 11 ай бұрын
Great engines! Check out my other videos for what they look like inside!
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