The Best Way Forward for EA to Listen & Change

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[@JuniorHobo]

I'm in the EA Creator Network. Anytime I have a issue, I never get a response. I have given them so many ideas. They have no time for what the community wants.

[@javieralvarenga5766]

Time to do your part

[@CHARLOFN]

Yup

[@VA-gn4ln]

Time to leave the network then. It’s apparently useless

[@playplay217]

It’s best that you leave that network. A company that refuses to listens to valid customer criticism is not a company worth throwing my money at.

[@malubulul4747]

thanks for trying though bro

[@ItzSalve]

We are litterally experiencing the first Fifa Revolution😭😭

[@chaching2136]

from a financial standpoint you're right

[@BosGaurus05]

Nah. EA don't care

[@goncalomota8218]

​@@BosGaurus05trust me they will care. If everyone participate in this revolution EA will be forced to change

[@BosGaurus05]

@@goncalomota8218 nothing will change. This boycott movement is like a piss in the sea to EA. They will still make billions of dollar selling digital cards

[@j.g8707]

Revolution?! You think EA care about these little KZbinrs 🤣🤣 This is a multi-billion dollar organisation who can do whatever they want! Nothing will change I can assure you all 😂

[@shaftblast9599]

What we want from EA: 1. Gameplay that isn't scripted/dogshit 2. Tune down the micro transactions 3. Invest in other modes (make pro clubs fun again, introduce a coop manager career mode you can do with friends)

[@DJJ616]

What should they do to make pro clubs fun ? They’ve done quite a bit to change pro clubs over the past couple of years , female players , newer ways to edit and improve your pro , cross play, new promotion system etc

[@idfk8268]

Manifesting for old clubs back with new features this no relegation thing is shite

[@MrBeanooo]

Make bronze and silver cards good agai honestly like fifa 14-15

[@DJJ616]

@@MrBeanooo how are they supposed to do that ? Also bronze and silver cards were never “good” it’s just there were a few op cards with high pace when pace actually mattered

[@aIIix]

@@DJJ616you literally just answered your own question, but the real solution is simply nerfing the defense. Defense is way too strong and way too easy

[@judahsmith4198]

Nick I just want to say I appreciate you starting this movement, glad you are holding EA accountable for their trash game that they utterly sucked any enjoyment out of

[@positrack99]

Not sure why these guys are telling us to stop calling out the creators who are in EA's pocket. If they support EA greed for their own agenda they are no better than EA. So if I want to have my own opinion about these EA shrill sellouts, respect your viewers rights to have an opinion too. Otherwise you are shutting alternate opinions out and nothing gets done. The only way we move forward is to be honest and call a spade a spade.

[@SufiyanMohamed10]

Bro Just put out a 2 hour video, That's Breakfast Lunch and Dinner sorted for me🤣😭😭

[@mpgtrackbit4151]

LoL same here 😂

[@Nsokwa]

i’m cooking while watching. by the time i finish cooking i’ll still have more than an hour left

[@Amtorin]

@@NsokwaI’m cooking too, but I’m champs, 11-1 rn

[@smooshy3188]

@@Amtorin 🤣

[@ohboysv]

@@Amtorin Well, that's just impossible since champs ended hours before that comment. Although you could have just been 11-1 in the end i guess

[@beckettbateman7297]

This felt like a meeting between Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin 😭

[@z00kz]

real😭😭😭

[@GalaxyGamingHD131]

Who tf is Palin in this thrupple

[@GalaxyGamingHD131]

Oops, autocorrect, Stalin*

[@witness1930]

lol we back in the 1940’s

[@standaman2789]

Lmaoo

[@nicodiangelo7051]

Nick’s EAFC Netflix documentary otw…

[@baazxd9133]

its crazy how so many of us actually care about this game. im sure you notice it as well, the content about the idea of the game being changed through a community revolution has been more enjoyable to watch than any actual gameplay/packs/rewards! you can see yourself the incline of viewage on this topic has attracted more views than other videos. that ALONE shows that bringing this conversation to the table is WORKING.

[@Jx2sick]

You know this is serious when Nick has to summon the FIFA Elder Council.

[@khaledzaben2225]

2 hours of absolute waffleing, I'm here for it

[@mpgtrackbit4151]

Me too 😂

[@atereolusola2497]

Seems you like how ea has been conducting business 😂. Someone is trying to get them to tone down micro transaction or improve gameplay. Leave them, it is worth the try!

[@peace4045]

😂

[@luistejeda6935]

I’m 35. I’ve been playing FIFA since FIFA ‘97. Had a small Hiatus in winning eleven now (PES) in high school circa 03-07. Came back to Fifa in college in ‘07 and bought a ps4 just to play with R9 in Fifa’ 11 with Corinthians. Between the tornado mess in FIFA ‘19 and EAFC 24 these two installments have been an absolute embarrassment. Started getting into ultimate team in Fifa ‘17 because of weekend league and legends. I am now contemplating buying a PC just to use icons and hero’s because I want to play with them. I have to resort to buying a pc and playing career mode just to make this happen. Do nba2k players need to do this to play with Kobe and Shaq??!! The last fifa I played thoroughly was FIFA ‘22 and had fun because it was attainable to get r9 and Zidane. Went back to school to get my masters, so haven’t had the time to play the last two years as much as I wanted since I was so busy. Can’t believe the downfall of FIFA. We all saw this coming and now I am resorting to just play career mode and buying a PC. It’s unplayable. Just to get a fix I’ve been playing seasons online because i don’t want to spend the time or money to play with good players/icons.

[@townseyst8467]

MattHDGamer basically said that an open line of communication is pointless. They don’t care. They don’t listen. He was a game changer for years and got zero responses to anything

[@urid4264]

i feel like a small movement in game can be made, we change our club names to “dont spend money”, “boycott ea” or “no fc points”. something along those lines to get the message across

[@stephenlanyon2916]

Done!! Changed club name NOFCPOINTS 👍🏼

[@stephenlanyon2916]

Done changed club name to NOFCPOINTS

[@brandontierney358]

Get this hashtagged. Great idea 🙏

[@nicknametripod]

Feels like I'm watching history unfold... I need to touch grass

[@nbdpropurple6151]

💀, hopefully you're right I just wanna play a good football game

[@nicknametripod]

@@nbdpropurple6151 oath bro, I've been playing efootball last couple days

[@YARDIEMANGAMING]

EA dont care about us bro its about the money they're making.

[@nicknametripod]

@@YARDIEMANGAMING Holy shit is this Sherlock Holmes?

[@YARDIEMANGAMING]

@nicknametripod bro I know this I've been playing fifa for over 15 years fifa 23 was my last ultimate team

[@titanslammer]

nick dropped a whole movie, two whole hours omg 😭

[@paolopizza9301]

feels like i been watching all morning and i’m only 55 minutes in 😭😭

[@TanaBui-e3r]

The power curve is crazy. If you miss one to two weeks of play, your team becomes outdated. EA has created this unhealthy fear of missing out. A lot of gamers just want to hop on and play competitively without having to spend hours and effort to be back on track.

[@num9558]

Facts man

[@Luisandthatblackguy]

I actually disagree. It’s super easy to get tons of low rated fodder and along the way packing some usable promo cards. There’s exchanges for a reason and that’s due to excessive cards being granted. You can take time off and pack a useable card that’s just as good or even worse than last few promo cards. The game is very easy for casuals to get into competitive modes but hard enough to create the top 1%

[@titanslammer]

@@Luisandthatblackguyi believe they’re referring to meta cards, not just useable cards, and the meta does shift every two wks it seems

[@firefightszz]

This is the exact reason I don’t play Destiny 2 anymore. Who has time to spend weeks grinding to catch up just to then get set back even more because you don’t want to pay to catch up faster.

[@TM-bk3rl]

Depends how good you are at the game power curve is an excuse , you can’t justify me beating your main team with Hegerberg Veerman Teze Balotelli in my team while your whole team is your go too

[@atb89]

Scripting/momentum call it what you will. It has to go! It's SO frustrating being in the lead for most of the match, but then in the last ten minutes your players can't control the ball, dribble or make a pass, so you're just waiting for the opponent to equalise through a 30 yard shot with their weak foot. You can see it coming every time. Do not tell me scripting/momentum is not a thing. It's disgusting. No skill gap anymore.

[@MichaelDancification]

but that is not the main problem, thats in the game since literally the start even in the best era of fifa where 90% of the community was happy.

[@alcaaron]

But I think it's even worse this year with the random ping pong balls always coming back to them till they score

[@mg756]

10000000% agree

[@lenza69]

I swear I’ll be up 5-2 at half time then be tied at 5-5 60th minute

[@Sorry_ImFrench]

There is one rule of life : Against authority and power, you must never accept injustice, you must never give in and you must always make your voice heard even if you feel it’s useless. If you let it happen without saying anything, you'll be abused more and more, because if you don't show any opposition, what's to stop them from screwing you a little more? And a little more? And a little more? EA has been implementing their shitty schemes year after year and we haven’t said anything. Congratulations to Nick, Nep, and others on daring to open your mouth and say things. Knowing that you make your living from fifa, we know it's not a comfort solution for you guys. You are fifa community heroes.

[@patricklorran1960]

I appreciate the effort u guys are making, but boycotting FC points is not enough. No other franchise/genre would get away with how bad ea handle PIFA+ the greedy practices

[@iliyasburnett9710]

What we want from EA. 1. Consistent high level intelligent game play. 2. Less store packs (keep the regular promos) 3. Allow us more freedom to create in our teams and stadium atmosphere (kits, boots, stadium creation, celebrations, a created player that you can upgrade with evo's and individual performance rewards) 4. Better rewards for consistent play and better objectives.

[@SpartanArmy117]

This exactly and it seems like maybe these guys don't even agree with that last one. The best players should get better rewards, that's fine. But they make it sound like the best guys are the only ones that should get good cards and I couldn't disagree more. I'm ok but not great at the game. If I put 100 hours in I should still be within a stones throw of the top guys team wise because otherwise why should I even play. If all the good cards only go to the best players who are already better than 99% of people then how in tf is anyone else even supposed to have a chance when playing them.

[@famouss21]

Nick assembled the first of The Avengers. Iron Man, Thor, and Cap. Eventually, this shit is gonna be Endgame and the entire community vs EA (Thanos). Elite writing from my idol Pick 🔥

[@wistolla]

Masterbateson87 and autizo will gather the villains to fight off nick

[@gorgon5633]

cry. whites own you

[@liminjini8147]

​@@wistolla nah auzio not the villian not the hero as well. He just the person who got dusted in part 1 and gets no screen time in part 2.

[@IsmaeelIlyas-c9r]

@@liminjini8147😂😂😂😂😂

[@GhostJJJ]

Glazing

[@Urbreadd]

NEP is PR trained. He’s communicating what’s best for business.

[@playplay217]

What you just said reminded me of the Authority from WWE😂

[@positrack99]

Neph beats his kids on Twitter. Slander? Sue me. I saw it.

[@thiagovolpon5537]

The biggest thing in the gameplay is that people depend solely on their AI to tackle and make interceptions. If you try controlling all your players it’s worse. The game forces you to stop switching players and trust that the AI will do their thing. And when players run down the wing, there is just this feeling that if you miss the tackle with your Full Back, you will get scored on. IT’S RIDICULOUS

[@thabangratabane3961]

You get penalised for actively defending, what a joke of a game

[@johnlaker8960]

Nick - I think talking about pack weight and cosmetics is a completely different conversation. It doesn't matter what EA does unless the gameplay is there. If you get Mbappe TOTS - it doesn't matter b/c gameplay is shit. Just focus on 5-10 gameplay fixes and direct communication with EA. Make a short, concise list. Every content creator is delivering 10-20 minute responses with what they want to do, and while it is better than remaining silent, it is not going to take this anywhere. Get every creator who wants to boycott EA to post the list of 5-10 requests, and say they will not do x,y, and z until the conditions are met. You have to keep it clear, concise, and consistent to get this to work amongst all participating creators. You need to make a post about the list, and get the community to provide feedback until you get a finalized product. Get community feedback to refine the list. Get everyone involved.

[@kao1102-xk1lq]

Nick the energetic young rebel, Nep the composed oldhead. You can tell how much emotion goes into nicks reasoning

[@CodFuNNy38]

I'm 1 hour into the video. There's some problems that we still need to address. Problem that are E-A-S-Y to fix. Someone leaving at 0-0; 1-1; 2-2 etc... Whoever left got the loss, the other just played all this time for NOTHING. That's easy to fix. In Clubs, this doesn't happen, in normal seasons, this doesn't happen. So why does it happen in UT? Another one, draws in rivals. What's the point? Just make it go straight to pens, I'd rather loose the game than draw the game. At least there's an outcome to this game, we didn't play for 15 minutes for nothing. Pens are 50/50, you will win and loose 50% of the time.

[@grukgrooglbergen4389]

Ddosers

[@iTouch4444]

@@grukgrooglbergen4389 ddos? 0,00001 % do ddos compared to ragequit

[@liminjini8147]

I got banned for this very reason.. someone did this to me when I was coming back 3-3 then he quits in 80th min. That made me toxic and I was using profanity to the other player... Got banned for it.. I then gave a ticket to EA saying (in short) "i deserve the ban for being toxic I don't want anything to do with that, if he is abusing the system he deserves a ban too, this is toxic and shouldn't be acceptable" ... But all EA replied to me is "we think the action taken towards your ban is justified and we do not have any intention to change that" ... They didn't address anything I actually wanted to be done. I haven't been playing since then ... It's been a month or more.

[@MR12AMAZING]

@@liminjini8147 Learn to control your behaviour. Using all that profanity against a person just because they backed out of a video game is completely unnecessary.

[@samueldeptula4976]

Biggest thing for me is to fix the servers. I hated logging into the game just to have to restart it to do anything from an sbc to mixing up my starting lineup.

[@kikirichy48]

I played FIFA yesterday. When I tell you that it was the most clumsy, unplayable, shit game I've played in a while is an understatement. I have a 91 rated team, nothing crazy, but my opponent had R9 and Pele. Both of our players looked like 9yo girls playing football for the first time. It was painful. No one could score. In the 80th minute, I scored an OG and quit. I really hope they fix this because I'm tired of playing with bronze players in May...

[@navinbaleko9375]

Fax

[@jriggz]

All we need is mainstream media coverage to reach as many casuals as possible

[@badbtyjorge79]

Skill up, angry joe show etc would be a nice start if they can talk about it in their gaming news

[@jriggz]

@@badbtyjorge79 i was thinking push it through Critikal or Mogul Mail or someone to get to dextero etc and then to mainstream

[@badbtyjorge79]

@jriggz totally man, at this point, any kind of exposure will help. Let's keep the momentum going

[@timholstad2723]

Angry Joe is the perfect guy to start with, he hates EA so much with what they do to Madden. Getting people in the general news and info industry and not just the FIFA community is how you start change. Get Phil Defranco talking about it. Get news stations talking about it. Reach out to younger gov officials and talk with them about it. It’s literally hurting the American economy that microtransactions exist. It’s putting money directly into a board of directors’ pockets with basically no cost to them, no value to the consumer, and no regulations on them.

[@WheresSeamus]

EA's main goal for this series is to implement the most abusive, dark-pattern predatory microtransaction elements to make enough revenue every year to satisfy shareholders. Just recently EA flew out almost every creator for the small Need For Speed community to visit Criterion and help them develop the next game. They have the systems in place, there's no reason or excuse not to do the same for the football releases, but they know that creating a fun experience directly contradicts their goals. They. Do. Not. Care. Stop. Playing. These. Games. That is the only way they will give up and pivot to a redesign.

[@Jeronimo9]

Don’t buy anymore FC Points!!! Save that money to buy yourself something! Use it on yourself or your loved ones! It’s time to put ea You n their place!!!

[@muovi2463]

Buy a gym membership, new shoes, food, anything else.

[@fracturedfuture370]

​@@TrippyReddddBuy something else for yourself instead of points. Hell, buy a better game while you're at it. Metal Gear Rising is cheap as chips whenever it's discounted

[@samreilly6602]

@@TrippyRedddddonate it to charity or literally anything else useful, buy coins so other companies make money, anything but give your money to these greedy bastards

[@Jeronimo9]

@@TrippyRedddd eafc is literally a couple months away and this game will be washed next month. It’s not worth it. Save your money up and you could invest it into something better like a car or truck. Use it to take some girls out🤷. That’s better then fc points

[@TrippyRedddd]

@@muovi2463 I already buy food, shoes, and have a home gym. So why not fifa points

[@dafriar2975]

Bro I miss fifa 15 when we only had totw, Toty, tots, motm, futties. Not all these promos, this meant that a majority of our players wouldn’t be outdated every 2 weeks

[@MR12AMAZING]

But then if EA go back to that then there will be a whole bunch of people complaining about the lack of content.

[@MR12AMAZING]

The majority of players aren't becoming outdated every 2 weeks. I bought Thunderstruck Loftus Cheek back in November and he's still decent enough to this day. Most of the cards from the Future Stars promo are still viable. The problem is just because a card doesn't have 5 star skills or weak foot and doesn't have completely maxed out stats you people think they are outdated. A midfielder can have 83+ all stats and people will call it mid just because it doesn't have 90+ pace and may lack one or two playstyles lmao.

[@PostB.]

Bro stop playing it, even for a month. I put fifa (eafc) down in november this year. You creators have more pull then you think. Addiction is the devil

[@Soundofthesun89]

someone needs to start a class action lawsuit against EA for the predatory pack tactics. Got so many kids addicted to the gambling now it's ridiculous.

[@trident8480]

They already had too explain packs too British parliament and compared them too kinder eggs

[@Soundofthesun89]

@@trident8480 yup gambling and kinder eggs... lots it common *eyeroll*

[@Sharps777]

Microtransactions needs to be classed as Gambling in all Countries and regulated as such. If that was the case EA would HAVE to change the core of the game. - - A little handshake from EA to KZbin and Twitch and this will be shut down. I admire your love for the game and your efforts, however it will go nowhere. The only way EA or any other game with microtransactions will change is if people speak with their wallets, and , unfortunately, that wont happen either.

[@BrandonFochs]

Honestly, if we contacted our federal government representatives they could table a bill to go after EA

[@oyziryhs1303]

They don’t understand the only way to have a chance to change is to try to do what Belgium did.

[@firefightszz]

@@BrandonFochsthey’ve actually done it before. Back when Star Wars Battlefront 2 came out. They had a loot crate system that was so disgusting that the federal government sued EA and got them to change it. When call of duty infinite warfare came out. Its loot box system was so bad the government had hearings on micro transactions. We just need to replicate that for FC24 and we will get what we want. It’s honestly not as hard as people think it is.

[@gt9699]

​@oyziryhs1303 even in a country like Belgium they're impossible to regulate even when illegal. 90% of new games being released in Belgium still have loot boxes anyway.

[@gt9699]

In a lot of countries Loot boxes can only be classed as gambling if there is financial gain, its not that easy to illegalise them. Even in countries where they're banned they're still very popular amongst all games. It's a stage where it's very very difficult to regulate

[@Franky.80]

Nick you should be proud. We know how much you love this game and creating content. Thanks for standing up

[@jmart1124]

All for the revolution as the game is not even a shadow of what it once was. At the same time, streamers were what started the issue with microtransactions being the driver of the game. This applies for almost every game with microtrans. Happy to see nick and co taking accountability and now demanding change.

[@SauceMan20]

All good things come to an end! Honestly there is no solution tbh,the only solution is quitting, I know everyone in here loves FIFA like me but trust me just don’t buy it again. I didn’t play Ultimate team for 5+ years and it didn’t make a slight difference to my life. I Jumped back on in the last couple years and spent thousands of pounds and trust me it wasn’t worth it at all. I made a promise, next fifa/ea I’m not gonna buy it and I’m gonna spend these wasted hours with my girl, my family, go gym and finally touch some grass. GGs boys

[@gavataris]

Love the idea of hosting a weekly hour discussion with a couple of creators and a guest from ‘the other side of the fence’ to help construct a dialogue with EA Sports. But you’ll never get an EA dev on. They’ll be restricted by NDA’s and their job will be at risk. However, 1,500+ jobs have been lost from the games industry in the last year or two so there may well be many unemployed devs willing to join in these discussions to explain the dev angle. There will be games journalists that are probably willing to discuss what they’d been told from anonymous sources. There should be esport pros that can share their thoughts. There are probably many with insider knowledge that would be happy to help construct a conversation because it may very well save jobs in the future. But ultimately it’s hosting a discussion that will help those that matter listen. It needs to be balanced and consider all the perspectives. It can’t be all rage all the time because it’s such an easy argument for the money makers to ignore. “Look at how angry they are and look at how much money we make. They. Don’t. Matter.” You can’t fuel that easy out.

[@creaminthebank]

1. Fix the servers - make the players responsive to what you actually press on your controller. Tone down animations and random events. 2. Fix the menus - make them as responsive and smooth as an iphone 3. Tone down any code for script and SBMM. We get it, it’s here to stay, but don’t make it so aggressive or obvious. 4. Stop with the BS megapacks that cost 50+ dollars. Don’t ever have a day of content where store packs are content. We’d rather have no content. 5. Give much much much more detailed and truthful probabilities for packs. 6. Reward the grinders. If someone goes 20-0 in champs, make the rewards worth it. If you want us to play BS modes for 20 full games, make sure the reward isn’t always the same discard promo card. 7. Be more active. If you have Mbappe or VVD that has been extinct on the market for a week, go press that button to increase their prince range. I’d have 10 more but they are more personal opinions. I feel like these would have the majority of the people backing.

[@1991ltd]

My biggest problem outside of gameplay has been how quickly everyone had good players. The first few months of the game are usually the best when youre using like gold Malen, or Hwang Hee Chan. That phase of the game passed so quickly this year, most people had teams they were happy with by January. There's nothing to grind towards if youre satisfied with your team after Christmas. The Icon picks were a big part of that i think. I want to be using up to 86 rated players until around Christmas.

[@fayz221]

Social commentary aint changing nothing. They will come out with FC25 ad in a month or so promising changes and people will be hyped as usual just to face disappointment again and rant about it. Quitting is the only way forward

[@samuelmanley1]

My biggest problems with fifa/FC are 1. Extortionately Priced Store Packs 2. The Glitchy Menus, And the constant crashing 3. The inconsistent gameplay from game to game

[@jigmewangchuk4085]

My biggest problem is people wanting to spend money to get advantages in games.

[@KILLZNTHRILLS]

Would it be a good idea to have a 5-10 second clip (similar to a coin sponsor) at the start of all your videos and other onboard creators' videos that details that you are boycotting xyz, why and a recommendation that viewers boycott too?

[@rafaelnoguera9318]

All the ideas they talked about in their conversation seem very sound to me. However, I consider that a good first step is to stop calling the villain "EA" and start using the proper names of the members of the board of directors, the content director, etc. Make them feel that we know who they are and that we will not let them hide any further behind the mask that as a community we have called "EA".

[@joyoussef]

Thank you for the podcast pickithy

[@danielwilliams2888]

I’m just one person. I’m not a content creator or an EA affiliate or anything like that but here’s my experience. I’ve played Ea/Fifa since FIFA 96 on the sega mega drive. I’ve been the guy that hates the game these last few years and still dropped 1000s of pounds each edition and regret/hate myself for doing so. In December the switch got flicked. I deleted the game and didn’t look back and will continue to do so until I am 100% sure the game is moving back in the right direction and I can tell you hand on heart I feel better for it. Also though, these guys are correct in saying you can’t tell people where to spend their money but what I found out is! I used to genuinely feel vile every time I fell into buying a promo pack and I did so for years but what I’ve since learned now I’m off EAFC. I can piss away my money in any number of ways but I am much happier pissing it away not into EAs pocket. Now I buy another pair of shoes (which I don’t need) I buy Fortnite skins (but I don’t loathe myself for it) I go to more gigs. I eat out at more restaurants. Just because that amount of money I used to burn in one avenue I know spread around. Do I have much more to show for it? I’ve put on 12kg (which is a big deal for me but perhaps not for everyone) so I can show more stomach. But largely no not really in a physical sense but I do have more memories and more importantly I have a lot more peace of mind. I doubt many, if anyone will read this. But if it resonates with even a couple people I’d be happy. Love that Nick, Nep & Nick are having such open and fueled conversation on this. It feels like we’ve had this conversation 100 times but this time there’s a different feeling to it. I really do hope it goes somewhere. Peace out everyone

[@samreilly6602]

Mistfits: Pick vs ceo of EA. Winner gets one of 3 88+ ww, ts, toty or fs icons (Lineker, Bergkamp or Figo). All items untradeable

[@Driwagon123]

😂

[@aIIix]

Nah man that mf is on loan for 99 games hahaha

[@JohnnyBravo.87]

Nicky, Nick, Nep. We need more and more content creators join the cause. Please call them in. We need Auzi, Inception, Matt, Fuji, etc to join the protest. Call them in, convince them. We are with you guys.

[@bentasticc2941]

Bro Misfits boxing with Nick holy shit I'd pay for that😂

[@Sponhexagonal]

If I’m being honest, I still think we’re very off in terms of what’s really wrong with this game. We are having an open discussion, finally, and that’s a credit to these individuals and their viewers, but the discussion being had is still quite regressive; only about treating symptoms when the disease is terminal. Gameplay, store packs, and balancing are not “the issue” - we have to keep in mind that EAFC/FIFA is not just Ultimate TEAM. Some thoughts…. 1. For 12+ years this game has not changed dramatically in the slightest. The UI (User Interface) is the same as it was. The game mechanics, believe or not, are more or less the same as they were, too. It’s no wonder that at this stage of the cycle, and especially at this stage in this FIFA chronology, the casual fans have already gone and left. They have come and gone - relics of a byegone period of gaming - like Atari fanatics or Halo 2 zealots - it makes no difference to those no longer in the player base retention pool which FIFA they are playing offline singleplayer alongside friends on their couch -FIFA 16, FIFA 19, FIFA 21 and even now EAFC24 - because these are all essentially iterations of the same exact game. And, because of this - emphasis for consumers to buy new titles dwindles, content creators views inevitably crater, and EA no longer have to do anything except try to make it smell fresh enough to hit business quotas. 2. We have had more features removed than added in recent years, and if that doesn’t fucking disgust you more than pack weight, than you have attached yourself to the sinking anchor of a dying franchise. They no longer need new gameplay devs - keep the same ones; hire some inexperienced individuals we can underpay and put them through a few scrum sprints and they’ll be good as new, right? Given their only job is to manage this game, not improve it…. Every single department in EA is essentially the “No New Features Department.” And gameplay is the consensus problem we’re vetoing? Get fucking real. 3. If the 30,000-50,000 of us hardcore gamers left are complaining and arguing over breadcrumbs, breadcrumbs is essentially all we will get. Where is the community emphasis on a new player Interface? Do any of us even believe that there will be wildly new customization options, a new story, emphasis on new game modes or singleplayer - all of which are apart of virtually every other video games cycle *AND HAVE TO BE* - or do we just care about the rush we get when we pack an expensive, untradable player _(Notice the irony? Notice the sick oxymoron of it all?)_ When are we going to _actually_ start holding EA accountable for the money we give them - instead of indulging in toxic community feuds, arguing amongst ourselves over pack weight, being proud of and celebrating how toxic we all have become,,,, does anybody even care to seek addressing a problem instead of seeking another problem? 4. I’ve been alive a while and have experience in many different industries - I have never seen a company do more with less than EA. After a certain point, whose fault really is it, producer or consumer? The model or the user? Where is our fucking shame? We’ve been defaced. It’s embarrassing. And none of these content creators have the sense or the courage to zoom out enough to be able to speak up for everyone in the community and the game as a whole. Everybody has their niche and I get that, but it’s not enough. I don’t care how many squadbuder showdowns you upload. All you’ve done is you’ve zombified your audience in order to make a lower, more consistent income. We are no longer entertained, we’re jaded. And you are producing nothing of substance. Get a grip. If you don’t want our gaming experience to slip even further, do as Nick says, as Nep says, take a stand. EA do not give a fuck about you, it doesn’t matter if you’re apart of the Creator Network, they don’t care about what your bottom line could be, they only care about their bottom line. So fuck up their bottom line. That’s how you’ll make them listen. If for no other reason, do it *because we like watching that shit.*

[@iTTz_donky]

Bateson has to stop having 1 mil FP at every year's game but he won't stop the thing they need is monthly rewards that's all

[@timblack85]

Insightful debate. I feel for you guys. I'm in recruitment for senior management and I help people find new roles in a specialized field. I always say if you hate your job. Voice your concerns. If nothing changes. LEAVE. However, you don't really have that choice. Do you own EA shares? If so you may be able to communicate directly with them via shareholder meetings. Something needs to change. I feel like the pack system is actually ok with the Evo options and numbers of free packs. The issue is no decent game mode for competitive but more casual play. We are depending on you guys to rep us players. Keep fighting!! Respect.

[@timiwithane]

Just starting the video and respectfully, I think Nepenthez is on EA’s payroll. There was a previous conversation you had with him where he said “DDA doesn’t exist” and here he is saying “This is the best game EA have made”. In other words, I’d have rather you did this with someone else.

[@LaVidaDelDesvelado]

This is what I would do. I'm not a Fifa content creator, but I am a creator that plays fifa since 20 years+. I would stop giving special cards and return to the special boost to any player you whant. Let me explain. You play weekend league and if you get rank 1, you get an evolution to any player you want with small boost in stats you choose. Also, I would do that player raitings are always live based on their current performance every month, that way a 90+ could get down, and a 83 could eventually go to a 90+. That way you would be changing squads based on fandom and live results. Also, yo could train players in your squad, like in carrer mode. Now, for EA to still make money, I will give store packs with special cards or special evolutions with more stats, in the end, you pay for save time. But it the end, people could get eventually there without spending money. Ofc every evolution or stats boost resets every month, and every promo will bring diferent stats boosts, so it must be controlled. And finally, I will add that if your oponnent disconnects from the match, you get the win. That would be my ideas to try to make the game better, more fun, competitive, and profitable for EA. Cheers nick.

[@Aaaa-wm2tt]

warra once a week call for you

[@unclebensrice4702]

Warra dead joke

[@realdeal7002]

It's telling how quiet and non-opinionated nep was throughout this, just sitting on the fence keeping an eye on his bank balance.

[@dodonnell-ze9yc]

He knows nothing will happen. You cannot have collective action unless the majority agree

[@nathandavids8412]

I have some ideas 1. Rank rewards for Division rivals (Day 1 of the game) 10-8 (max 82×4) player pack 8-6(min 82*4) player pack 6-4(min 85*1) player pack 4-2(min 85*2) player pack 2-elite(team of the weak player pick) This makes it better for players that grind...the higher you rank the better your rewards but people at rank 7 up still have a one in a million chance at striking gold like a 88 Bruno or so 2. Remove player packs from stores and put in like cosmetics like you can change Ronaldo's boots or kits 3. To make it possible for you to still buy players on the market and not being exstinct...increase the amoint of tradable packs you get in rivals and champs like instead of 1 make it 2 and increase it per rank 4. Champs make it 6 wins (max 90 tots) 9 wins (min 90 tots) 11 (min 92 tots) Thats my suggestions

[@r9ficial956]

NICOMPOOP DUDE

[@Vraba24]

As a 25yo that has played FIFA and PES all his life, it's so sad to see what these simulations have become. PES is another story and reasons for their downfall lie mainly in EA that put the monopoly in the football simulations with the licenses, and continued to push worse and worse game each year. For the last 5 years I've bought 4 FIFA's each time pre-ordering the ultimate edition through the summer hype of wanting to play the football game again. I thought that last year is going to be the worst game and from now on FC will continue to get better each year. Boy was I wrong. I've never stayed on FUT till june except for FIFA 23 (and 17), and that was mainly cause of the amazing SBC content you'd be able to complete relatively easy, especially if you played in higher divisions. I was elite for the most part of the year and never ever had that much fun in game other than FIFA 17 which for me was the best FIFA ever made. The fact that it went so downhill since 17 with no signs of improvement and completely closed doors for any communication from the EA employees tells you everything you need to know about this company. I remember playing career mode in 07 and you'd be able to pick sponsorships you'd want and get different money each year. How is it possible that a career mode from 17 years ago is better than now? They are hiding behind the UT points cause even if the game was free they'd be making a killing just from them, but add to the fact that game is 100 bucks at the launch...is crazy. They are not using their community to grow in the gaming industry but to rip off, which essentially kills every entertainment value and makes this not a video game but a disgusting pyramid scheme brand with all the Creator Network BS they put out there

[@EUJackPQ]

EA doesn't give a shit about all this 💩💩💩

[@garv04]

​@@EUJackPQso you're laughing at yourself

[@mowgli8480]

No they don't. Atm. But if alot of people, not all, but alot stop buying points for several months (especially content creators whom can spend hundreds, or even thousands of dollars/pounds on a single video), all of the sudden they have to explain to their boards/investors etc., why they are losing 10, 20, 30% of in-game purchases, which are their bread and butter.

[@UP-THE-TICS]

I would say we need representatives of the eafc community to have a space where they can speak to ea devs and board members either face to face or on video calls. Call it the EACAB (the EA community advisor board), get people like nick, auzio and nep as members as well as devs to be able to voice our concerns and ideas on the game and finally get them heard. In the members’ streams vote for issues that the streamer can talk about in future meetings. Surely through this we could get some issues patched - or at least some closure - and maybe get the game we want and realistically deserve.

[@danvonhall9846]

Why is 28T here lmao GET IT OUUUTT

[@T_0_R_P_0_D]

Hey, bit of a late comment here, but I have something to say that I feel like no one else talked about and yet is the main issue for me. We all know that when EA fixes an issue, more appear, that's a known fact. Every year, they copy paste the same bs and add hundreds of new animations, try to fix glitches, but not the important ones like inconsistent gameplay etc, and doing allat, they just make the game slower, glitchier, more annoying. This cycle of copy-paste and add like 2 new features while breaking 4 existing ones just keeps going, at this point, with just how much is broken to the core about this stuff, '' fixing '' isn't a solution anymore. I believe they need a renewed vision in their development team AND need to rebuild the game from ground-up if we want a better game. Or else the cycle I talked about earlier is just gonna keep going.

[@chrisrs6061]

fifa gives me racist thoughts

[@10Serg10]

Wtf

[@DeeEditor1]

Huh

[@andyburns8869]

get help

[@Thorz74]

This game has unbelievable bugs, such as major issues with crossplay that prevent players from connecting with others who game on multiple platforms. I have little hope that they are willing to fix more complex issues when the basics are not even working properly

[@KhAlid-v5b]

No views in 23 second nick really fall off

[@danc6470]

Shut up. It was funny 3 months ago.

[@FHH55]

3 likes in 44 minutes user-rg3gr3zt8i really fell off.

[@Jsternshow]

If you can't click L3+R3 and move your players manually every 5 seconds, you're screwed. People can drag their cb to the center line, and he can get back and make a tackle.Press the tackle button like crazy but they can still get back and make a tackle after hitting the tackle button 4 or 5 times. It's ridiculous.

[@whrlds]

The irony of having 2 people on this stream 1 of which was exposed for saying the n word on stream and the other being convicted for owning a gambling website talking about morals is pretty crazy

[@Straight-Outta-Nottingham]

Who said the n word

[@gerard126]

Cry me a river. Who cares about the n word

[@goncalocosta9106]

So, what does that have to do with this topic?

[@tommen4097]

Ok

[@garv04]

Hater

[@ninjatdogmapping7633]

Ima make a list of 10 things iwant 1. Gk evos 2.objectives for packs that reset when you complete them kind of like daily play objectives but permanent and reset when completed 3.better pack weight 4.evos for all playstyles and playstlepluses nep said this a while ago and i want it 5.better gks who can actually save stuff 6. Nerf the females, they barge my haaland out the way like he is nothing 7. Chem styles actually work 8. Nerf finesse shot +, we all love it but its way to op 9. Make evos free, im pretty sure ea said it would be free and now its just a money grab for the good ones 10.make coins easier to earn, not everyone wants to sit in the market for 5 days straight just to earn a few million coins

[@Blueshido72]

Games that were under super heavy fire including from mainstream media - Destiny, Overwatch, and Diablo, all came out with direct ways to talk and be transparent with their communities and I think it helped bridge the communication gap and was an overall benefit.

[@Blueshido72]

NickRTF is right, the defeatist mentality of “it won’t work, it never has” has to go. There needs to be one collective movement that starts to pick up momentum and become mainstream.

[@KylePhillips-ld4gc]

I deleted the game right after they changed fut champs rewards for Ligue 1. Should have done it much sooner I guess that just pushed me over the edge. Its a shame what the game has come to I've loved fifa since 2007.

[@kzumf]

Giving much better rewards for rank 1 to 3 players just strenghtens the pay to win aspect of the game. The rewards have to be better all around plus we need to do something with our duplicates. And when we're at it, drop the Rivals/Squad Battles BS where we just get rewards on specific days. In the old season system you got your rewards after every season (10 games). Therefore, there was less FOMO and you could play the game on your own schedule. But you could grind more rewards, so this was just a way to reduce the packs, so you go to the store for more.

[@Live7heDream]

Guys. It sounds like an independent/organic creator network needs to be established and I think we already know who the board members are (thanks for creating amazing content). 1) getting multiple communities under one umbrella (the independent creator network) 2) therefore, executing campaigns to get a reaction from EA would be more impactful. Because if we throw all our “punches” together at the same time. Wouldn’t that make it more noticeable / create more attention? Please like this comment for these amazing creators to see. 🙏 thank you!

[@souredrum]

A MESSAGE TO EVERYONE.......WE HAVE TO GO AFTER THER MONEY its the only way greedy corporations listen......use the BUD LITE BOOYCOTT as example...when the people started messing with there money....shit changed real fast.

[@michdm1000]

Governments should ban the point buying like Belgium did because it's gambling for kids. That would force EA (and other gaming companies) to change

[@RedMerseysider]

I’m sorry but Nep does not fundamentally understand how corporations work and that they would never share with the community why they do certain things there is zero point in having a communications channel as that does not create any accountability or actions, it will not drive change, EA know what the community does not like already, they just don’t care and they won’t converse about it as there’s no benefit to them as all it would do is drive negativity.

[@dmbdajoker616]

This explains why I watch certain creators. Each one of the creators o enjoy watching have come together and clearly think the same things i do. My main thing here is they could easily monetise fc24 through cosmetics if they utilised a 2k neighborhood style mode. Mixing volta and clubs into a larger mode. This would morally lower the absolute abhorrent amount of gambling spent on the game and give the game a more community based feel. The content created would be huge too.

[@Domancave]

I’ve never agreed with Nepo more than this conversation. He nails his opinions and is open to listen and willing to talk about anything. He’s always been one of the more mature creators in a relatively childish community

[@alergic2morons107]

I feel the actual issue with the game is the gameplay itself. The rewards wouldn’t matter if at the end of the day, you have to use them in a match and they move like trucks. Gameplay should be the main thing to be fixed. If you’re good in good gameplay, the quality of rewards would only make it more exciting.

[@fifaclips4738]

is it just me who wants the fully gold teams with 1 or 2 icons in january and the old chemistry. just like in fifa 18

[@Jdkd-l9f]

I just think Nepenthez is a hypocrite: “KZbin stars fined 265k for promoting FIFA gambling to minors”. Like come on man…Sat there making out your the messiah, when in reality, you’ve endorsed this shit for years! We all want a great football game…granted. But unless another company gets involved, we’re fucked…

[@koenkoe7]

What I think we need is quick and open communication from EA and an active say in how things are balanced. You are going to always have balancing issues but what you really need is a system put in place that can fix those issues

[@AC9YT]

Really respect the push to create a better game for everyone. Appreciate you Nick for starting something and hopefully this can have the desired impact we all want. A better game!

[@GalaxyGamingHD131]

The first 5 minutes of disagreement was a pure fact of and top tier elite game play players experience vs still a very good game play players experience. I think it’s the only GOOD glaring difference between the top 2% of players and the rest.

[@phdfloppa9397]

This game needs a whole goddamn rework. Like built from the ground up. This playstyle bullshit they added was a dumb decision that only makes the games code even more unstable

[@MattoRm10]

Ultimate Team IS the problem. They made it a Casino and left Pro Clubs, Career Mode, Seasons and even the Training Ground DIE. I never played FUT until 2019 and I've been playing since FIFA 06. FUT ruined the beautiful game.

[@nikos15847]

I might have unpopular opinion but the weight of packs started to be a thing since untradable rewards were introduced, most of us can relate that tradable packs are 99% shit so we cant get any coins, we get some high overalls to burn in sbcs from untradable packs, but it ends in everyone having the same squad, everyone being afraid of buying a player and loosing 20% of its value bc market is only influenced by store packs that are tradable. I would love the idea of deleting the untradable packs and them all being normal tradable,

[@muhammadhusainahmed]

These servers have been absolutely horrendous for the past 2 weeks. I guess it solves the gameplay issue when you can’t play the game

[@MrHastygamer]

Ultimate TOTS week the top EAFC streamers could all play games that aren’t fifa together to make a big event and take eyes away from fifa on one of their most profitable pack selling weeks.

[@TheArchitectofChaos]

I also have a suggestion, as one of the measures that should be proposed. Every pack, form the store, regardless if you buy it with coins or ffp, should never return less than 85% of its value in coins. It is soooooo frustrating when you spend 650k coins on a pack and get players that you could have bought with 200k on the market. I mean, c’mon EA, I understand at the end of the day, the we only get the players from “intended pool” (which is … don’t want to use that word), but at least do not ROB us! Not everyone has the time and skills to trade or get ranks in WL that give tradable packs. EA takes 5% of everything that we sale. Than, if you use those coins ti buy pack and you only get 20% back of that… 85% value of your hard working gathered coins is stolen.

[@Swamp917]

All teams in irl football use 'drop back' , I think the defence ai is good its just the attacker ai is not good enough, so ea will have to 'upgrade' the atk ai to combat the 'op' def ai

[@mattdawe4774]

12:38 so spot on. It’s Literally an addiction. You’re telling me you won’t get views unless you buy the store packs.

[@Griffith110]

nick is very idealistic but thats why we love him. hopefully he manages to realise his ideals cause they are definitely for the better of the community and the game in general

[@17Mannering]

what also needs to be taken into account when change is about to be made is making sure that ALL types of EAFC players are accounted for, like the players who hop on for an evening or two a week to play some fifa and making sure that they wont get left behind for not playing every night, but then also catering for the hardcore as well. Allowing for all types of players to enjoy the game to the fullest

[@michaelbrabham6437]

If these kinds of topics are covered more frequently, I'm certain changes could be made. You are in great positions to speak for our community, and I thank you guys for leading the way 👏 👏 👏

[@Dao4deuce]

This is my new all-time favorite video FIFA / FC video. 3 of my favorite content creators brainstorming porblems and solutions to help make this game we all want to love better. Thank you all so much for this!! Fully supported!!

[@Aboodi78X]

I wish they brought back the old weekend league rewards and made the tots better

[@liminjini8147]

Nick as a viewer's opinion.. do more of these podcast. I will get addicted.

[@eldante4139]

If they give lower rewards for lower finishes then half of the community won’t play champs. To get players getting 18-20 wins you need people getting 6-9 wins. There has to be a trade off.