Rupert Spira on Why the Direct Path Is the Path for Our Time

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Rupert Spira shares his personal story with Mark Matousek, describing how he integrated his love of truth and his love of beauty after meeting his teacher Francis Lucille. He discusses pitfalls on the path of knowledge, why he avoids the word "enlightenment," and how recognition of our true nature relieves suffering.
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About Rupert Spira
From an early age Rupert Spira was deeply interested in the nature of reality. At the age of seventeen he learnt to meditate and began studying and practicing the teachings of the classical Advaita Vedanta tradition under the guidance of Dr. Francis Roles and Shantananda Saraswati, the Shankaracharya of the north of India, which he continued for the next twenty years. During this time, he immersed himself in the teachings of P. D. Ouspensky, Krishnamurti, Rumi, Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta and Robert Adams, until he met his teacher, Francis Lucille, in 1997. Francis introduced Rupert to the Direct Path teachings of Atmanada Krishna Menon and to Jean Klein and the Tantric tradition of Kashmir Shaivism, and, more importantly, directly indicated to him the true nature of experience.
Rupert lives in the UK and holds regular meetings and retreats in Europe and the U.S. In these meetings, he explores the perennial non-dual understanding that lies at the heart of all the great religious and spiritual traditions, such as Advaita Vedanta, Kashmir Shaivism, Hinduism, Buddhism, mystical Christianity, Sufism and Zen, and which is also the direct, ever-present reality of our own experience. It is a contemporary, experiential approach involving silent meditation, guided meditation and conversation, and it requires no affiliation to any particular religious or spiritual tradition. All that is needed is an interest in the essential nature of experience, and in the longing for love, peace and happiness around which most of our lives revolve.
Rupert is author of The Transparency of Things: Contemplating the Nature of Experience. Being Aware of Being Aware, and Presence: The Art of Peace and Happiness. Prior to becoming a spiritual teacher, Rupert was a world-renowned potter and ceramicist whose work is in the permanent collection of the Victoria and Albert Museum and other major venues. He lives in Oxford, England with his wife and son.

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@caddyjackson4863
@caddyjackson4863 10 ай бұрын
Super fascinating to hear Rupert’s story and perspectives outside what I am used to hearing! Thanks 🙏🏻
@tslow1829
@tslow1829 10 ай бұрын
Grateful to Mark and Rupert for this very profound dialogue. 🙏
@philipjjacobs
@philipjjacobs 10 ай бұрын
An interesting talk. Rupert and I both had the same teacher in Dr Francis Roles and we both studied Ouspensky, Advaita Vedanta and Rumi`s Mevlevi tradition together for many years. For myself what we studied was both fully inward and outward looking and complete. Both Dr Roles and our non dual guide the Shankaracharya Shantananda Saraswati said that the quickest route to realisation was through developing our talents and the things we love. This approach really appealed to me as an artist as I so love things of beauty and I love the dance of life. So from this perspective: living your life and Self Realisation are not seen as two separate things.
@LennySchoenbach
@LennySchoenbach 10 ай бұрын
0:17: ⚡ Rupert Spira's early exposure to nonduality and spiritual teachings shaped his interest in the spiritual path. 6:22: ⚖ Conflict between love of Truth and beauty, struggle to integrate teachings and artistic ambitions. 11:31: ⚖ Discussion on the lack of traditional devotion in the direct path to truth. 17:02: ⚡ Rupert Spira discusses the absence of spiritual materialism in his meetings and the focus on happiness and self-discovery. 22:22: ⚖ Lack of ego in the community of truth seekers, focus on sincerity and truth seeking. 28:05: ⭐ Exploring inner peace through self-identity transformation amid suffering and world challenges. 34:35: ⚡ Importance of recognizing new age misconceptions around the direct path in teaching non-duality. 39:46: 💡 Understanding of shared being eliminates need for teachings in religious and spiritual traditions. 45:08: 🌟 Fulfillment lies within us, not in external experiences; hoping for external enlightenment leads to disappointment. Recapped using Tammy AI
@joevelasquez2757
@joevelasquez2757 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this
@MrResearcher122
@MrResearcher122 10 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@comentario-ur8rd
@comentario-ur8rd 10 ай бұрын
Just because the self is impermanent and constantly changing, it doesn't mean it isn't there. Like the old tale says: "Don't believe the absurd, no matter who says it" - quoted by Jack Kornfield
@oliviapendergast1
@oliviapendergast1 10 ай бұрын
The “self” is real only in that it is a collection of thoughts feelings and perceptions but there is nothing in between that rising and falling phenomena that we assume is there
@annemieke711
@annemieke711 10 ай бұрын
the Self is complete unchanging ! otherwise it would not be infinite . Only the sense of a person is changing ! You , the Self are unchanging !
@francesclare8335
@francesclare8335 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful 🙏
@sunbeam9222
@sunbeam9222 10 ай бұрын
Some groups are like that , on repeat: " there's no one here, nothing to do " or " we're spiritual beings having a human experience" might as well tell me to go to a cave and never come out. I still like form. I enjoy it. I actually was kindly asked to leave once for saying that.
@MarkStevenMatousek
@MarkStevenMatousek 10 ай бұрын
Nowhere does Rupert spout these cliches, nor does he speak against "form" and celebrating embodiment in ANY sense.
@sunbeam9222
@sunbeam9222 10 ай бұрын
@@MarkStevenMatousek where did I say he spread those cliches? I'm not talking about Rupert, it's a reference he makes about some new age groups round mid video.
@MarkStevenMatousek
@MarkStevenMatousek 10 ай бұрын
@@sunbeam9222 My mistake! Apologies.
@sunbeam9222
@sunbeam9222 10 ай бұрын
@@MarkStevenMatousek no worries at all.
@ravindramurthy3486
@ravindramurthy3486 10 ай бұрын
In the final analysis, when the so called journey is from "me" to "I", we recognize that this "journey" is along a path-less path, there is neither direct nor indirect path. Understanding in its final culmination should end in "seeing" this fact.
@HiluT
@HiluT 10 ай бұрын
@MarkStevenMatousek
@MarkStevenMatousek 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. I hope you'll follow my page! Lots of other great interviews there.
@bellaluna7012
@bellaluna7012 10 ай бұрын
i also think it is dangerous to say to people there is nothing to do because you are totally disregarding how they feel.it could put them into a mental health crisis. I'm an artist too and i had the same problem with devotional practice. i have a love of perception and experience and artists have direct enquiry into subject object relationship.
@SisypheanRoller
@SisypheanRoller 10 ай бұрын
That's true, but I think that's a risk that any subversive and novel message carries in its time. People will misunderstand no matter how hard you try. You can add some disclaimers or explicitly point out things you do not imply, but at the end of the day, the way a message is taken depends on the receiver as much as (if not more than) it does on the sender.
@cps_Zen_Run
@cps_Zen_Run 10 ай бұрын
Consciousness is an emergent property of a complex brain. The brain creates the mind, which creates the self, I, and me. In reality, there is no self, I, nor me. There never has been a self, I, or me, nor ever will be. It’s all a story. It’s that simple. No looking, seeking, nor pathway required.
@pattyronco4217
@pattyronco4217 10 ай бұрын
So it is by a story that you dismiss a story and than inaccurately qualify consciousness and dismiss it? What kind of insanity is this!?😂
@fingerprint5511
@fingerprint5511 10 ай бұрын
Conciousness is not of the brain. There is no me, mine, self or Ego projection people call God. All is phenomena arising and ceasing in Conciousness.
@fingerprint5511
@fingerprint5511 10 ай бұрын
​@pattyronco4217 no, it is awareness that observes the phenomenon arising and the Ego saying, this is me, mine, self, but it's not as it us dependent on something else to appear whereas awareness is always present and doesn't change or is dependent on anything.
@pattyronco4217
@pattyronco4217 10 ай бұрын
Why did you say no to what I wrote?
@renko9067
@renko9067 10 ай бұрын
Yikes. Just no.
@chrisbusby4395
@chrisbusby4395 10 ай бұрын
New age nonsense like Tony Parsons.there Ive said it for you :)
@sunbeam9222
@sunbeam9222 10 ай бұрын
You've said it for you. Enjoy that echo.
@MrResearcher122
@MrResearcher122 10 ай бұрын
@@sunbeam9222 He's made a good point. It's a new path because it seems, with respect, a path of with a mishmash of traditions, but with a modern branding. As the presenter said it, it can become a very commercialised approach. He says that at 17: 11
@sunbeam9222
@sunbeam9222 10 ай бұрын
@@MrResearcher122 ohhh I think I misunderstood. I'm sorry. Just checked Tony Parsons. I think I get it now ;) Sorry.
@gregoryswanepoel6328
@gregoryswanepoel6328 9 ай бұрын
utter utter crap this is not non duality
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