Trauma is a Trace Left in the Bodymind

The conversation revolves around the topic of trauma and its connection to consciousness. Rupert discusses the nature of trauma, its origins in personal and collective experiences, and its impact on behaviour and reactions. They explore the concept of different circles representing the finite mind, the broader mind, and the collective content of a culture. They also delve into the role of meditation in expanding awareness and healing buried traumas. The interconnectedness of all minds and the potential ripple effects of individual healing are highlighted. Ultimately, the conversation explores the complex relationship between trauma, consciousness, and the process of healing.
From the seven day retreat at Buckland Hall, Winter 2018. For access to the full recording see link: non-duality.rupertspira.com/w...
00:00 What is trauma and how can we better understand healing trauma?
01:29 How can we define trauma, and where does it originate?
03:50 How does trauma relate to consciousness?
06:30 Is trauma separate from consciousness?
07:23 Understanding the finite mind
09:14 Why we are afraid of intimacy
12:22 This is the medium of mind that all minds share
13:04 How we inherit traumas
15:11 What happens to our consciousness after death?
18:12 What happens to our mind in the waking state?
19:20 What does morphic resonance mean?
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[@margathea7072]

A bodhisattva I know says if one person heals / awakens 7 generations past and future are free from all suffering. So thank you Rupert for your beautiful contribution to my healing amd to many many others on our precious planet ...

[@eceerdem317]

My master says the same thing :) much love

[@nicholasvogel7456]

There is no past or present

[@Aldermus]

Nice guru brainwashing your bodisatva. People here, like in every religion, still in full fantasising mood

[@najbrzi28]

This was amazing way to explain Consciousness in relation to our finite mind. It's simply amazing to me that he is able to find words to explain something that's completely unexplainable using the words. Thank you Rupert...... you are an amazing teacher😊❤👍

[@wilma8326]

Freud and Jung became non-duality students 😊 A course in miracles says: when I am healed, I am not healed alone 💞 I love it when teachings come together and become one knowing field 🌈 🙏

[@angelinamayland4989]

Re: a course in miracles...I had the same intuitive thought. When two agree...Chapter 22, VI Light of the Holy Relationship 4:4...Grateful🙏

[@matihurtado]

freud and Jung? Where can I find info about that?

[@marieweiss1634]

Yes! As a psychotherapist and having experienced depth psychotherapy, I've come to see it as profound healing and spiritual practice. I too am amazed and grateful for the convergence! 💫

[@Shazbut-he3ne]

"If one person heals the trauma in their family, that has an effect, at least to an extent, on the rest of the family" I think I've been waiting to hear this for many years

[@tuficek]

Yes! There can be family trauma which past from one generation to other and waiting on a particle (some person) who will resolve it like on level of quantum particles, we are same particles for imagine

[@Aum_shantishantishanti111]

Me too !!

[@Torcufanshaw]

This is so true, and neither any sort of weird belief nor bulls*it. I first heard it from the lips of an utterly qualified, scientific, conventional, top psychiatrist many years ago, and my life is living proof.

[@dorijoe]

Fuck yeah! Healing is an act of rebellion.

[@zain4019]

21:25 That struck me, as well.

[@roseruiz2687]

"service one can render humanity is to recognize the nature of ones self" i love this thank you.

[@SunShine-xu5jb]

"We are not bodies born from bodies, we are minds born from minds" oh my God! Blew my mind!

[@Paul-cl6uo]

Me too

[@Walizen]

Amazing

[@liquidvelvet]

It's strange - but his explanation gave me some relief. For years now I've been struggling with "I did something horribly wrong on this spiritual path" - exactly bc after initial unbelievable bliss came a nearly endless amount of trauma - stuff that definitely did not refer to my current life and I really couldn't put this in a coherent frame that made any sense.

[@Freddy3367]

Wow. The clarity in the way he formulates this is remarkable. I'd often come across Rupert's name, but I'd never taken the time to read, or watch, any of his work. I'm glad I finally did.

[@myuserisava]

Rupet was the one who showed me consciousness within me. I could not just get it but his methaphors enabled me to know it. Thank you Rupert.

[@imodium438]

It was in my awakening phase i saw through to the truth & could discern between true and false , thats how i woke up to spinning ball deception. I was remote viewing on a mattress in my living room & that's when i saw the earth from above it was flat and motionless. We've been duped by nasa and the elites for decades to keep us asleep.

[@MayaLove1976]

@SongOfCelestia my understanding is that this is still all within the ‘illusion’ that awareness is experiencing...

[@MayaLove1976]

@SongOfCelestia yes 😊 I’ve also studied it on and off for years so my interpretation may be slightly influenced from others...

[@MayaLove1976]

My understanding is we are infinite awareness experiencing separation through this dream/illusion/experience which includes these different circles/levels of the mind which can be experienced between lives as a ‘soul’ and/or collectively (a collective mind being the outer circle) within the ‘dream’ before we return/emerge back into infinite awareness. I personally understood this in his talk..

[@MayaLove1976]

My apologies, apon reading your question again, my understanding to that would be that even though there is no ‘me’ we are still experiencing a perceived separate self with a mind. So while there is no me, in the illusion there is still that experience, of separate minds that is part of one consciousness and one consciousness is still playing out separate minds within a collective mind where all memories, traumas etc exist.

[@AndersFougnerDotCom]

"The Body Keeps The Score"

[@thomposthuma20]

Don't forget to mention Peter Levine's books. He has developed a method called "somatic experiencing" as a skillful means to work with trauma, Bessel van de Kolk refers a lot in his book about Peter's work.

[@tuficek]

Thom Posthuma yes Petr is one of the best plus Barcelli

[@fraters.4430]

It is of no surprise to me that this question came from an Irishwoman. The history of that island, and its diaspora, could make a stone weep and the attendant inherited traumas are hell on earth to deal with. I wish dearly he expanded upon the "warm waters of awareness" and how to "bathe the scars" of trauma away.

[@eldonscott9]

@@fraters.4430 Try his Yoga Meditations, he goes into in the ones I’ve done so far. He’s giving so much!

[@paratharamgini8363]

@@fraters.4430 where can I find the yoga meditations, can you please post his links. Thanks 🙏🏾

[@kateevans4886]

I’ve just found this video on KZbin and it’s utterly amazing, Rupert is so concise, so clear and informative. For me, in my experience of listening to him he’s changing my life, it’s a continual process, I listen to him and I understand another piece of the human puzzle, I leave it for a while and carry on living my little separate existence and then I come across something like this and I’m gently forced to take another step, gently guided to more understanding, which I’m often afraid to do……thank you doesn’t seem adequate!

[@davidbowden182]

His ability to communicate these teachings to a modern human conditioning is phenomenal. Added to this, he tells us not to believe him, but to look for ourselves. Wow! How can we be so deluded? Yet, I continue to miserably play in the mud. Another wow!

[@kateevans4886]

I can relate to your comment! But at least we know we’re playing in the mud!!🤕😀😀

[@thestagbeetle459]

Trauma is like a trace in Consciousness; it's like the stick drawing in the sand [...], the etchings in the sand that are not readily washed away by the tide... The drawings are etched deeply into the sand and the waves have to pass over them many times before the etching disappears. - Rupert Spira He said it so beautifully that my body-mind traumas diminished considerably in a matter of seconds! This is Rupert's magic! I am feeling blessed! I am.

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

We already know the truth. We just don't want to accept it because it hurts. If you will face your demons you will stop the generational curse, but that means you have to become the Saviour, the sacrifice, and most people won't choose that option willingly. They'd rather die with their ego intact and their family in shambles than their ego destroyed and their family saved.

[@ecologiesofmindfulness564]

This so true for my family. They prefer the devil they know (the hurt anger pain misery depression anxiety) then the devil they don’t know ( face their demons, die with their egos intact etc. I get it. It’s scary to go down this road, but even that is an illusion)

[@tealshopping922]

Having grown up in abusive household which has left so many unknown scars/traces in my body/mind; I find your profound and loving guidance to be so grounding, empowering, uplifting and inspiring. For this you have my deepest gratitude Rupert! Thank you.

[@gurpriitchd]

Enlightened Master sharing his radiance and bringing light into our dark corners of ignorance. Love you Rupert.

[@gurpriitchd]

@@FreeFlow__ Enlightened also a label

[@menacinghat]

tony parsons would probably say there is nobody there

[@gabykessler6673]

You explain in 20 minutes what I have experienced in 25 years! Thank you very much. It is all understandable to me NOW. Now that my inner circle is not so much caught by the trauma any more.

[@samjones3334]

I'm almost speechless. I need a word better than thanks. But all I got is Thanks

[@withrespect4life]

SAME!

[@Paseosinperro]

I am so glad that many spiritual teachers are catching up with trauma.

[@anakein]

Could you name them please, the spiritual teachers who speak about trauma? I'm suffering from PTSD. I'd appreciate any help.

[@debbiehouse1580]

miles ignotus James Finley is one. 💜 love to you.

[@Paseosinperro]

@@anakein Scott Kiloby, Tomas Huebl, Julie Yau, Reggie Ray, Georgi Y Johnson (I love this one),... And of course trauma teorists: Peter Levine, Besel Van der Kolk , Pete Walker,...

[@anakein]

@Debbie House @Jorgeruiz: Thank you both, from the very bottom of my heart. I don't unfortunately have access to a therapist where I am, so the information you guys shared with me here today actually means a lot. It's quite funny how the ones who were supposedly the closest to me played an instrumental role in the development of my CPTSD, whereas, the Internet here has truly been a shining beacon of hope. :) Namaste

[@Paseosinperro]

@@anakein You are welcome! If you hace CPTSD like me I recommend you Pete Walker, his book Complex PTSD (You can also read quite a lot for free in his web)

[@MsThirtythree]

🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼♥️ there are no words to adequately express my gratitude for Rupert’s wisdom and clarity of articulation.

[@bodystorm]

I love that Rupert referenced Rupert Sheldrake's Morphic Resonance here. I've often thought about the similarities in their teachings. Great minds...

[@claudelebel49]

"Release all of this and be at peace. Let go of everything. Wash yourself clean in the Truth of Who You are. Watch everything pass away. Dissolve. Fall into the arms of God. Allow yourself to be transformed. Allow yourself to be born anew." Robert Adams

[@corinnewetzel9490]

Rupert’s clear view and heartfull words opens a new perception on healing traumas buried inside my body💛🔥💛 Thank you for the ‘Radiating Compassion’ you share with us🙏

[@sabrinarenataditaranto4960]

That’s why the teachings of Jesus say we need to be born from above. Remembering who we are. That’s why we heal the nations .. ❤

[@eva9539]

thank you so much Rupert. Your gifts are such great blessings.

[@allegrobul2564]

Super helpful, truly! Thank You Rupert.

[@maryberry6067]

Thank you for simple understanding of trauma,especially your explanation of soul.

[@kimfrances2302]

A beautiful and clear articulation of trauma. Thank you.

[@anzelikatekutiene6896]

Very clear. Thank you Rupert!

[@MayaLove1976]

Brilliant. For myself who’s experienced so much suffering but not from my own life experience and is into non-duality this explanation is great. After more than a decade of clearing “past/other lives” to no end, I found non-duality and this integrates my experiences perfectly. 😌🙏🏼♥️ thank you. Being a sensitive/psychic maybe I’m just wired to pick up on the collective minds suffering to help heal it. Non-duality helps ♥️♥️♥️

[@likewings07]

Thanks so much! ❤️

[@rhondaharman8776]

Thank you. I experienced warm feeling of joy for first time. Joy from hope.

[@boyansystem893]

Pure Gold!

[@nsbd90now]

Rupert's articulation of the human experience of reality is just so up-to-date and helpful!

[@user-ck6ly4st3v]

OMG this is great, Rupert, you really get it about trauma! & how & why meditation is so vitally necessary & so effective in "healing' what ails us.

[@claudelebel49]

But in the end, we are left with the same. No amount of explanation will free us from identification. We are left with conscious allowing and self-inquiry. As a teacher that I met a number of years ago used to say : "Stay in the I don't know." And what I need to know will be revealed. Stillness is the way, relax and release while remaining free of expectation: layer after layer after layer ....

[@mesmerical11]

This also explains the power of true forgiveness.

[@seamusdebuitleir20]

They sent us out as sheep , in the midst of savages. Tanx for awakening 🙏🏻

[@heshamaljazi4513]

How clear and simple his words are!

[@Paseosinperro]

Nice analogy to explain trauma!

[@luisalbelda67]

Thank you!

[@Chichikn]

Jesua Christ i have been listening Rupert for years never heard this ... thank you :)

[@amyonline7779]

Amazing explanation!!

[@dragonfly8149]

Love this, thank you.

[@stirringthesoulsoup3254]

Thank you Rupert 🙏

[@nivedithakamath9388]

Thank you 🙏🌟🌷

[@Zarthu1982]

Thanks from Brazil

[@angelajanebowes]

Thank you so very much Rupert x

[@waynzwhirled6181]

This is really good. I have indeed had the unmistakable experience of past trauma materializing during meditation. There are several things in this teaching that I have experienced to be true.

[@paztururututu4864]

Thank you Rupert!!! 😊 🙏🏽

[@Mihalych179]

Perfect!!! Thanks a lot!!! 🙏👌🎯❤️

[@stellau3028]

Best ever thank you

[@kimjansson2338]

thx, fantastic explanation🙏

[@DarkGoddess-c8l]

Such an Insightful video 🙏🙏❤️

[@ericnicholson870]

Yes, Rev Master Jiyu used to say that meditation 'cleanses karma.'

[@johannboeing-messing979]

Thank you

[@shiney4075]

19:30...morphic resonance... Pure wisidom❤❤

[@bardoteachings]

I can see how intellect and full command of it can be really instrumental in sorting things out. Many people myself included can't cut through the thick fog of their experience.

[@withrespect4life]

This!

[@gfaber99]

Not to get too esoteric as there are several subtle bodies (etheric, astral, causal, etc) that can be impacted by trauma. These go deep sometimes even for awakened beings. There is also a Sanskrit term called Lesha Vidya as the remains of ignorance. It addresses the trace of trauma. Peace to all. G

[@michaelmcclure3383]

From Tripura Rahasya. Lord Dattatreya says.. "The vasanas not inimical to realization are not weeded out by the best class of jnani, because they cannot seek new ones to crowd the old ones out. Therefore, the old ones continue until they are exhausted and thus you find among them some highly irritable, some lustful and others pious and dutiful"

[@eldonscott9]

This is just🔥for me!

[@SamayaKefaliGermain]

Absolutely amazing 🙏💖🙏

[@higherlifeacademy]

There is practical pathway to move from the physical being to the essence being using the Soul as a tool. In personal transformation, there are actual steps you can take to move from a limited mind by identifying your archetypes as a way of getting closer to your soul nature. Start with character strength, move to archetypes and in time you'll know how we move from one level of reality to another withn our one being state. It's called the Three Levels of Reality and the pathway is one of empowerment. This approach is more pragmatic and less mind driven while keeping the ind engaged in self-introspection. The mind is designed to contemplate and giving it helpful tools to do this with can narrow your self-introspection and make it creative at the same time.

[@FunkadelikVesna]

When people cant feel and they are disconnected from true self, well thats trauma right there, but they are not aware of it cos they livin it like its normal, and they think its part of their personality 🙋🏼‍♀️, so hard to peel the ego leyers it fuckin hurts but you need to go to the source. sending love to everybody outhere who works on their inner shit 🌈🙌🏼 yesssss

[@theequatableskeptic8148]

Beautifully said

[@ToddSloanIAAN]

An experience within like never known!

[@benjaminhartson3714]

19:51 - 20:01 is absolutely beautiful

[@Evolventity]

Wow. He really shed light on some things I've been experiencing!

[@noreenjenny7039]

All minds appear in consciousness. 🙏

[@ladikapoor9296]

❤ so beautifully explained..🙏🏻🌈

[@rahulkulkarni536]

Amazing video!

[@deborahhebblethwaite1865]

Rahul kulkarni the very best explaination i have ever heard

[@AliAli-iu8wu]

I feel there is an unlimited love and peace right now and right here..and my eyes are in tears now while I am writing this comment..but this little"me" is just wants to keep control things and I know no matter what this me looks to be so strong and taking over the mind it is still nothing for the beingness..just wanted to express this

[@bestestinventions7032]

it would be fun to see someone do a video compilation of all the flower arrangements of rupert...

[@doriesse824]

It sounds like he's speaking of the Subconscious Mind. Because of my complex trauma, I have come to learn that it is from this area our lives are controlled. There is a saying from the University of Virginia's free online "Course In Consciousness": "You are not living; you are being lived". That does not mean we are puppets on a string with no thought or say in the matter. It's like a knee-jerk reaction where sometimes you plan to react or speak in a certain manner, and something else happens that you had no intention of doing or saying. That is when the subconscious is doing the living. It's there for 'protection' against further trauma, even though it can sometimes seem to make things even worse. Our subconscious can react even just due to our programming and conditioning, or our set of perceived beliefs. I think it can be at war with what could be a peaceful life if Consciousness really could do the living.

[@AntionetteSpain]

So true even science proved it. Hopefully science will keep catching up.

[@tangotangoh]

More importantly is to stop creating 'trauma' in ourselves and those around us because unchecked trauma in one can create more trauma when one blames it on karma.

[@claudelebel49]

Blaming never works. We must take responsibility for our experience and blame is the rejection of responsibility.

[@thetenproject]

Thomas Hübl is the expert in this topic. Rupert also describes Thomas’ work pretty well and fairly clearly

[@sasabinsari]

basically it is an automatic contraction of the nervioussystem. the only way to get through it, is when the idividual becomes aware of the contraction - which is always in hintsight - and responds with a deep okness towards the contractions. as long as there is a reaction of 'I dont want it', the trauma remains. anyway, the mind has to understand first, because the automatic reaction of the mind in our culture, collective awareness, is and has been: "NO" (contraction of the nervoussystem). becoming aware of the 'NO" and relating the 'NO' to the truth teaches the nervoussystem to stay open no matter what. and of course, the individual will no longer 'teach' reactions to their children regarding long hold 'meanings' (=DNA, is the manifastation of related beliefs).

[@momsazombie1]

I wonder about the metaphor of a whirlpool for the mind. We can say 'look there's a whirlpool' and we can see it has a centre but when we look for its edges we see it has none. It is also crucially, a circular feedback system.

[@allertonoff4]

_great stuff Mr Spira .. would you mind if i audio sample your channel again plz ? .. i always credit my sources_

[@Giorgio825]

I love you!

[@mouthearnose]

17:40 DIscussion about healing starts

[@solarionispirit2117]

If the thing is positive, there is no resistance. No trauma but pleasure. If it is neutral, there is no resistance. If negative, there is resistence. This resistence causes trace with "negative" charge. This is trauma. So trauma is a trace caused by resistance.

[@david203]

Good explanation. Also, the dysfunctions that limit the mind that are caused by traumas also tend to hide themselves in various ways. What is important is eliminating these dysfunctions, not just ignoring or accepting them. Unfortunately, neither psychiatry nor psychology has any techniques that do this, so other solutions must be sought.

[@angeloiodice9304]

Rupert should be knighted by the Queen and given the Nobel Prize soon thereafter.

[@janelemmeke2266]

For me . Where trauma resides, or is, . Is irrelevant, when I experience it, I know it created by my thought, brought through time as a memory . Instead of analyzing this, working to calm it. Etc. I see it for what it is, an illusion, that feels real, but is not. I let it go.

[@ajsalonius8455]

I have not experienced myself as a different person in my dreams. I am me

[@katelynnsays]

Wow.

[@jamesryan6224]

Traumatic memories can destroy your life, Talk them right out of your head with someone.

[@Bonpu]

If you are lucky enough to have any memory that is.

[@jonashjerpe7421]

@@Bonpu You're right. The most powerful parts of the trauma we typically repress. Sometimes we can consciously remember events, but the painful feelings are repressed. Sometimes we don't even have an intellectual recollection of what we been through. Regardless of the level of our repression, the symtoms of the trauma and all the repressed pain tend to haunt us. We are always on the run, living in exile as it were. Meditation and psychotherapy are great means if we need to gradually release the repressed pain, heal and thus liberate ourselves. But sure, it is especially hard if you don't even understand that you have suffered severely. Childhood trauma are oftentimes of that sort. We think we had a normal childhood but our hearts are bleeding. I guess I am trying to say that the symtoms--the anxiety, the despair, the depressions, the addictions etc--are really what should guide us in trauma work to begin with. Eventually we dig down to the root trauma, but when the work starts it is a good rule of thumb to presume that most of it is repressed. Thus lack of memory as to the cause of the trauma need not and should not hinder anyone from healing, presuming they suffer from the usual symtoms that is. Thanks!

[@VTun1ng]

@@jonashjerpe7421 well written. Do you know any author who wrote how to deal with repressed emotions? I've read Tolle and Freud and listening to this awesome guy so far

[@jonashjerpe7421]

@@VTun1ng Thanks! In terms of very introductory psychological work I think Alice Miller's The Drama of the Gifted Child is still very good. Nowadays I think that anyone who goes deep into themselves, spiritually and/or psychologically, become aware of the splits, the tensions and the struggle that are the tell tale signs of repressed emotions. But anything within the psychoanalytical tradition should deal with the issue. Within spirituality you will find a lot about it under the notion of resistance. Good luck!

[@VTun1ng]

@@jonashjerpe7421 thank you very much for your time Sir!

[@XOXO-mb2vh]

The perforated circles he explains about are buffers. There are tides that come in and out. Expansion of awareness. Levels of incoming and outgoing thoughts, etc. Everything has a tide. Everything is connected at the biggest level to the smallest. Nothing is working by itself. Yet some levels are less consciously aware of farther out boundaries. Everything operates on a need to know basis. I and you have a common nutrient. That is everywhere. It's not necessary for us to know the why, we just need to be aware.

[@understandyourmind]

15:38 ..I don't think that we first enter the dream state..First, we probably experience long wave sleep which is repairing the tissue and then around very early morning we experience REM state or dream state which can be around 1.5 hours...if we wake up close after REM state then we remember dreams very vividly...

[@margaridaoliveira7975]

🙏🏼

[@mmpoggs2033]

5.05 is this reference to washing the brain to cleanse trauma?

[@SarahLorenz]

Is he talking about Samskaras? I think I experienced this during Vipassana. I havent had this info and somehow I had a lot visions/memories as being an Asian in the war. Very vivid and weird.

[@dommccaffry3802]

Such a shame it's so complicated : we are creatures of confusion and swirling contrary energy systems and buried human conditioning. I wonder how many of rupert's students achieve a greater level of happiness ? And if not, what is the point

[@kilifischkopp1442]

Does he have a video on revenge or hatred?

[@xaven199]

Eat the food. Don’t get stuck reading the menu.

[@claudelebel49]

I'm thinking that these traces or trauma are what is called samskaras or vasanas in advaitic teachings.

[@cinnamonsprinkle4700]

Claude LeBel I have been wondering about the same...

[@moonglow6639]

You have a very scientific approach to this. Are there other approaches too which are similarly valid ? Like Rumi for example ? Why do humans want to be scientists anyway ?

[@glenmartin9068]

People r in different chakras and each chakra has a different perspective, intelligence, values, etcetera. Science is associated with the 5th, Rumi the 4th, gurus the 3rd 🙏

[@reggaemow]

does this include the mind of animals too?

[@4422michael]

Btw, what kind of "flowers" are those? I want them in my waking state, in my abode.

[@karljacobs]

they look like orchids to me

[@litsamtz]

🙏🙏🙏❤️