Russell Hantz of Survivor: Heroes Vs Villains angry over losing

[@TheHalloweenKing]

For him to go back to back to the final with out a break is incredible. He was probably drained so much and still dominated the game.

[@1polyron1]

I was wondering why he seemed not as aggressive this season. I mean he didn't find a single idol unlike he did in season 19. I was expecting that same drive and tenacity. Don't get me wrong he was still the same ole Russell, but he seemed kind of over it in season 20.

[@a.jdeets5527]

Andrew C No one saw him play the first time, he had the biggest advantage coming into the game. That’s why JT gave him the idol.

[@1polyron1]

@@a.jdeets5527 They liked him that much that he was on the very next season. Wow. Talk about unfair for the other team.

[@user-ti9jb6ij8f]

Amanda did it too!

[@ryans413]

PolyRon Season 20 He was in it but the guy was physically trained but by far 20 was his best showing made all the all stars look weak

[@DeepSeas..]

It’s infuriating that people don’t understand that the hardest part of this game is managing to make it to the end while managing to not piss everyone off on the jury. It’s easy to be cutthroat and backstabbing, but much hard to manage to vote people off and still get them to gift you a million dollars.

[@Monki_29]

I mean yeah but people need to understand 2 things: SOCIAL GAME ain't the same as JURY MANAGEMENT. People keep talking about how Russel had 0 social game, then explain how he absolutely steamrolled 2 seasons back to back and was calling the shots the entire time? He had tons of social game. The problem is that he isn't a suckup or pretends to be nice, as he says it himself in this video: I can't play any other way. His social game wasn't lacking, his Jury management was.

[@secrets.295]

@@Monki_29 He has no social game except for intimidation. Everybody hated him, which is why he received zero votes. There is a reason why people love Boston Rob or Sandra but not him. Because they are very likable as a person. Russell an a-hole and he is going to jail now for a reason. To win its not just about STRATEGY ALONE. You need to predict the unpredictable, you need to have strong jury management, you need to tone down your ego and not openly be arrogant, you need to learn when to be aggressive and stay out of radar, you need to be likable as a person, you need to know who your threat is. Russell had none of them except for strategy. That's it. Boston Rob said it best, he played to get to the final not to win. He has the worse jury management in history, he choose the 2 person that could beat him in a landslide (Identifying your threats), he was arrogant & rude, he never stays under the radar, etc. To top it off, he is the worst sore loser in the history of the game. He is not even among the top 20 greatest ever. Now he can cry his sorry as* in jail because he is not just a horrible player. He is a horrible person & a scammer.

[@poison6084]

Yes it's easy to backstab but it's not easy to do it in a way that you can make it to FTC

[@HumilityListens]

​@@Monki_29social game is more complex than simplying lying your ass off. If youre going to lie then cover your ass better. Something clearly he couldnt do. Hes a terrible liar.

[@aurei44]

No, the problem is people fail to bring goats to the end with them & "jury management" dude all I would say is if I was theree I'll just donate the money to charity and they will go "oh cool here's your vote". In Samoa he said he is a millionairee that is the dumbest move ever, this stuff is a factor it's why peoplee vote off all the people that won a car. He could've also made sure he brought to the jury the people that liked him like Ash and that other country guy. In HvV he never had a chance they were just all bad losers with too high of egos.

[@andytram08]

i respect him a little more because i didnt know he only had 10 days apart from each season

[@nicknowicki7481]

wow 10 days apart ,I did not know that, and I believe you, jeff probst was right, the game of survivor has specific rules & you have to win within those rules.

[@notthefather3919]

Nick Nowicki Yea. He's technically right. So its not soley a game about wits, it's about sore hurt butts on a jury going with their feelings. You can play the best game, but the jury can award someone who didn't do anything the money. I see what Russell is saying.

[@toptenguy1]

Yep, and the key part about that is, when he started season 20, he still had no idea about the Season 19 results. So in his mind, he may have (rightfully) assumed that he beat Natalie and Mick, and he was going for his 2nd million dollars in a row. So why would he change the way he played?

[@thomassmith2128]

I don't think this is true, I think I remember him saying "I think all stars will reward my game" kinda referring to him knowing he lost. I think he or parvarti win tho if the season didn't focus on the whole "heroes v villains" bit tho. Still the fact that Natalie won in so laughable lol

[@drquack1217]

Notthefather yeah I get what you mean but you can’t really play the best game if you made everyone upset and hurt on the jury. That is part of it and has been since the beginning.

[@VMonee81]

He would not have lasted that long if people had seen Survivor Samoa.

[@LiteDisc]

Agreed, and it showed in Survivor: RI. The moment he played with people familiar with him, he was ousted real quick.

[@bigladthomas]

Dallas This is probably a pretty bullshit statement because Parvati said before HvV that she was gonna align with anyone even if they’re a big threat and Danielle would still align with him because she did trust him! And Russell still would’ve found the idol!

[@AllRequired]

@@LiteDisc It would have taken only the first 30 minutes of the very first episode. No way would that same lineup of Villains let him near the starting line today.

[@ryleycarroll9486]

Here's Tommy! He didn’t have it at his first Tribal

[@bigladthomas]

Ryley Carroll I know he didn’t have it at the Randy vote out but I personally believe maybe the tribe would’ve been thinking of getting rid of Russell or Randy. And they still would’ve voted out Randy because Russell performs way better at challenges. But who knows it’s just a theory.

[@spinnerMPS3]

I didn't realise he never left the island between series. That's pretty impressive to put your body/mind through hell then head back out 10 days later to do it all over again. He was at a massive disadvantage and still got to the final 3. It shows a lot about how tough Russell really is. He makes bloody good tv to! Kudos.

[@magicmath2714]

no, it was actually an advantage to him. he was still fresh in the game, so he didnt need time to get back up to speed. some players hadnt played in years, so they needed time to adjust back into survivor-mode. but russels mind was already in survivor mode day 1 cause he had just played for 39 days. also, no one saw his first season so no one knew who he was. that was his biggest advantage over everyone else. so many people were voted off based off reputation. tom wastman, boston rob etc. if people had seen russels first season, he would have never made it to the end. he would've been voted off early.

[@ryans413]

He had two weeks between 19 and 20 Russell said why’ll everyone was going home and was getting to go eat and clean up he was in his hotel room wondering why he wasn’t getting ready to leave and Russell stated Mark Barnett walked in with a couple of producers and said to Russell you think you are the best go prove it and shipped him out again to do 20. Of course Russell could have said no but come on who wouldn’t

[@ryans413]

@@magicmath2714 but to be fair I’d question why this new guys here and in a season like that I would have targeted Russell right away and Rob tried and almost had him just Tyson screwed it up and Parvati and Daniel were smart to aline with Russell cause they knew he was crazy and no one would vote for him. I knew he probably wouldn’t win 20 but he should have won 19 but Russell did give us some great television to watch the guy was amazing really aggressive but made the seasons fun unless you hated him

[@timurtheking]

it's also the reason russel went 'crazy' during HvV and why he never really worked on his past mistakes or changed

[@woodykusaki9970]

No it was a disadvantage. People have limits. Russell literally played 78 days instead of 39.

[@JezXoXo]

damn i didn't know he had only 10 days in between both the seasons he played

[@user-ti9jb6ij8f]

Amanda did it too

[@jacobolson9583]

@@user-ti9jb6ij8f and James

[@thewachannel4537]

And Malcolm!

[@turtletcp1598]

And Rupert

[@gapgaming2871]

And the guy from worlds apart with the red shirt

[@liamkucht]

holy shit. back to back seasons 10 days apart and made it to the end both times. that is ENDURANCE on every level. greatest player

[@isarahk]

amanda did it too lol

[@ryans413]

Not just that when he went to the final live for Samoa in December he had to keep his mouth shut about season 20 cause it was already filmed by then. Then goes to the final in May for HvV and still lost that’s tough

[@Stevenbfg]

@@isarahk Amanda got to go home and part of he season aired before she was flown out for Micronesia. Its not a 10 day turnaround like Russell.

[@hugerhumm3439]

sodamaker films the best players win tho so...

[@dsrom8010]

no way hes the greatest player

[@billygowhoop]

Parvati was by far the best player that season. Easily the best social player and probably the best at challenges. The best idol plays of all time. And she had her back to the wall multiple times and managed to save herself.

[@brasstacksboxing409]

If u say so..

[@deleted_user_6wa72sak1]

Russell brought her to the finale.

[@user-db9vy2gh3v]

@@deleted_user_6wa72sak1 lmao okay

[@ac-jn1iq]

Russell was better than her IMO.

[@ac-jn1iq]

If it weren’t for him, she would have been voted out day 2.

[@marcogavin5]

america loves him because hes good television hes entertaining but he was too aggresive in the game he needed to lighten up and not continuesly being aggresive.

[@andrewmarinaccio3122]

So true, really good way to summarize it all up

[@bomberdawesome]

I agree. I feel he was trying to hard to make big moves and those big moves ended up costing him so jury votes.

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

Yeah, but the same argument could have been said for Boston Rob and he won his season.

[@bomberdawesome]

@@Eternaldarkness3166 Boston Rob was a lot smoother with the way he talked to be. Russel had a very condescending approach and it made him unlikable but Boston Rob made it seem like he actually cared about the player so when they went to jury they didn't feel betrayed. Also Rob took to goats to the end whereas Russell took likeable players to the end.

[@jessebarlow1277]

well said, saddhu saddha saddhu

[@proxclusiv]

If Tony won he should have won

[@wondering_hand0985]

Fr

[@wondering_hand0985]

There all mad they got played like the puppets they are

[@Senorgrav]

Nah. Everyone russel delt with was stupid af. Literally. The plans he did none of them where smart. They just looked smart cause everyone else was a idiot

[@gosha7492]

rupert

[@santaclause3487]

It all depends on the jury. Parvati I thought should have won since they all hated Russell. Sandra winning twice is a joke tho. People are so gullible, she sold out her mom dying and her husband in the army as to why she should have won.

[@JeanValjean875]

I know a lot of people say he had an advantage because no one else had watched his season, but he also had a big disadvantage playing back-to-back so quickly. I feel like those two things basically balance each other out.

[@anthonymort5202]

He's not the only one to do that though Amanda Kimmel did that but people actually saw some of her game before Micronesia

[@dio696]

@@anthonymort5202 Russell made the finals both times

[@anthonymort5202]

@@dio696 so did Amanda Kimmel

[@anthonymort5202]

@@artlordkozu9065 I just pointed it out because everybody thinks that Russell is the only one to make it to the final three on back-to-back seasons he's not Amanda Kimmel did it first that's why she's considered a legend

[@anthonymort5202]

@@artlordkozu9065 and I didn't point out that Amanda did the first to take away from Russell I did it to make the point that he's not the only one to do it Amanda did it before him

[@respiir]

Sandra literally warned the entire tribe of Russell’s oncoming destruction and I really feel like they felt that they owed her for that. I mean I would too. Not only that but Russell told too many lies to too many people. Literally one second he’d make a promise to someone and the next he’d be trying to vote that same person out.

[@lonerebeI]

Sandra literally did nothing all game. Oh please

[@CharlieGoldDirector]

@@lonerebeI the people that played with her disagree with you.

[@FeverDog420]

Sandra running to Rupert at the merge to warn the heroes about Russell is my favorite moment of HvV. It's the scene that gave her the win.

[@random_jae5886]

​@FeverDog420 Thing that always annoyed me was. It didn't matter whether Russell or Sandra was telling the truth. The Heroes should have voted Russell. If Russell is telling the truth, the vote is 5-4-1, Russell leaves. If Russell is lying, the vote ties and Sandra flips on the revote, Russell is gone. And in both scenarios no one would think of giving him the idol. The Heroes were idiots.

[@brianezell5790]

So what if he told lies. It is outwit, outplay, outlast. Lying is part of the game. I don’t believe he outplayed Parvati but he should have been the runner up and Parvati should have won. The jury abdicated their responsibility.

[@CZHJon]

If I played Survivor with Russell he's the first person I'm gunning to be voted out, pre merge or post merge regardless.

[@Chasstful]

Russell is a little bitch. When he got kicked out early in season 22 he cried like a bitch and had the gall to call his teammates out for thr0wing a challenge to get him out. After the things he pulled its pretty funny. He's not someone to be impressed by, he was willing to stoop lower than anyone else and control weak minds, That's not impressive to me

[@snakeking5009]

@@Chasstful ye wym little bitch russell is one of the hardest working and hardest mentality players to ever touch this game.

[@johnjoseph6874]

I wouldn’t, I would work to get on his good side. He’s a perfect person to bring to the finals, everyone will hate him and not want to give him their vote and and he would bring his alliance who’s most useful to him with him to the finals.

[@DtMi5]

Like Probst has said before, "Survivor is a microcosm of the real world". There are people in the world who many would say, "that person is the best and they deserve to be successful in life" and yet they are not because those who get to decide their fate decide that they are not going to win. Russell has now got a bit of that same feeling of resentment and "unfairness".

[@HumilityListens]

In reality your character will be the judge. His character and personality was too see through.

[@afiqshahril5827]

the fact that he was so cocky and arrogant, he didn't realise how poor his jury management skill was. Just like Amanda, she got into final twice and didn't win. So why can't Russell see that? Even Brian who was awful and villainous won, Todd who was cunning won, Parvati the backstabber won so there's no reason why a villain cannot win. Russell is so delusional to think he is the best player in Survivor. Look what happened in Redemption Island, I was so happy he went home early. I'd rather watch Boston Rob or Rupert play again than listening to him "If you're not with me, you're against me" who do you think you are? A freakin god? wake up Russell!

[@zeldaron1]

+Afiq Shahril Brian Heidik never let his fellow players know how he felt or how he manipulated them - he totally deserved to win and played one of the best games ever. Russell has no idea how to manage players without pissing them off (or relying on idols not skill) He wins fan fav for bringing drama to the season because of his play but will never win a jury vote because those people see first hand how troll like he is

[@AllRequired]

+Kerry Taliaferro Brian would have destroyed Russell on contact.

[@joncheskin]

It's one thing to admire a clever villain if you are watching him on TV, it's another thing entirely to admire him if you are playing with him and your life is made miserable by his antics. In both seasons the jury walked in angry and concluded that it is actually more impressive a feat to survive someone like Russell than to be Russell.

[@danielhogston170]

This is the most sound arguement to a Russel loss. I agree 100%. Sore loser effect took him down not the other players.

[@jordanm5025]

He won the player of the season because he got an absurd amount of airtime, compared to everybody else.

[@Gatchi]

He got the amount of airtime he got because he was behind literally every vote and every play (aside pre-merge Hero wins obviously) so of course he's gonna get airtime. He was there. every time.

[@Crow-nc1oo]

@@nasierbrown8974 first best

[@rindin1101]

He also got a mind boggling amount of screentime in season 19 he got 25% of the confessionals in samoa

[@TheBattProductions]

@@rindin1101 Usually the winners, if they're at all interesting, do get the lionshare of the confessionals. At least the character ones. Like, Boston Rob in Redemption Island was 40% of confessionals or something ridiculous.

[@eyebrowcow5914]

Proof is in the pudding, you get airtime if you’re entertaining and a good player, look at every single season

[@tastyquicksandnfl1326]

“I have the best social game” 5 minutes later - 3:36

[@livm9306]

He has the shittiest social game of all time. He makes everyone hate him and then expects them to vote for him anyway.

[@generalknowledge9899]

I saw the entire season 19 and I dont know from what can people be offended.. he just humiliated them because they had 8-4 numbers and all 8 of them were on the jury

[@lonerebeI]

His ONLY weakness in the game of survivor in my opinion. Only reason he hasn't won is because of an emotional jury

[@bomberdawesome]

@@lonerebeI He played a good game but if you don't have connections on the Jury your not gonna win overall. You can blame it on a bitter jury but that's something Russell expected and even with him knowing the jury would be bitter he still didn't make an attempt and then gets mad when he doesn't win

[@timschultz2560]

If no Jury members want to vote for you at the end of the game, that's a result of a flaw in your game, not the Jury failing at their job...this guy could use a book on self awareness

[@silverjonquil]

aka... trish

[@bigtomivan]

The show is called Survivor, not Make Friends. He outwitted, outplayed and outlasted everyone twice and was robbed twice. When the best player of the season does not win twice, there is a flaw in the game. If I was ever lucky enough to play and someone like Russel annihilated me like that, I'd vote for them twice, cause they deserve to win, you give someone credit where credit is due, whether you like them or not.

[@fadlyrazali3832]

bigtomivan You still don’t get it. Part of the game of Survivor, and a major part that is, is JURY MANAGEMENT. And yes, you need to consider bitter jury in your strategy. Russell doesn’t care at all about jury management. His strategy is great only to bring him to the final tribal, not to win it. So there you go, Russell hands down deserves to lose. It’s already 30+ Seasons of survivor. If you still don’t understand the concept of jury management, then you don’t understand Survivor.

[@bigtomivan]

Fadly Razali and there you have the flaw in the system, the winner is not based on who plays the best, who controls the game, who makes the best moves, it’s who pissed you off the least or who you like more. That sounds like a popularity contest, this contest is about who’s the best survivor. It’s on the fkn insignia; outwit, outplay, outlast not out jury management

[@fadlyrazali3832]

bigtomivan You still don’t get it. It’s part of the game. Some, if not most of the jury are bitter and whiny, some are not (it appears to me newer players in newer Seasons are less bitter) You’re not gonna be bitter, sure. Good for you. But other players have every right to be bitter and petty. They can cast their vote however they want. You need to account for that in the game. Jeff Probst made it clear in the reunion. THAT IS PART OF SURVIVOR. YOU NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE REACTIONS OF OTHER PLAYERS. Again, repeat after me: JURY MANAGEMENT! If your strategy doesn’t include that, YOU LOSE. Why can’t Russell fans get that in their heads?

[@TheEsotericism1]

Russell is so good that he brought Sandra and Parvati to the end. Sandra and Parvati. Two of the best players in history. That alone should exemplify how horrible his strategy is. He makes big moves, sure, but they don't make sense in the context of the game. Sandra and Parvati manipulated him to oblivion and he won't own up to it (in the case of Sandra, so badly that he still doesn't see that she did). He also "won't change the way he plays" despite it being a proven losing strategy. He was the goat of the season. Everyone wanted to bring him to the end. This interview alone should show just how rotten of a person he is, not to mention stupid

[@1polyron1]

Russell was his own downfall. Had he shown remorse for his actions, I feel the outcome would have been different. Instead, he made himself look like a horrible bully and a nasty and controlling person.

[@watsupdoc]

Russell took the wrong people at the end. If he took danielle and candice he would of own. If he was so i control he wud of been able to keep candice.

[@rmh941]

@@1polyron1 Lmao, he apologized for his actions and said everything he did was pure strategy during his speech. People acted like he was the devil, when there are people that have been on the show and won that have completely lied about their personal lives, cheated and have gone after the personal lives of other players. Russell didn't once say anyone was a bad person on that show or go after anyone personally, not really, but he was called the devil and an awful person by many people he played with, despite the fact that none of those people really know Russell outside of the game. That's what frustrates me the most, you have morons like Ruppert who can't separate a game from reality. Good game play should be rewarded. If the main reason you get to the end is because you're nice and don't take matters into your own hands by making big moves, then your lucky, simple as that. So I agreed with what Russell said in his speech that he wasn't lucky because he took matters into his own hands. If you get to the end because of luck and being nice you don't deserve it.

[@rmh941]

@@watsupdoc I think he was right taking Sandra even though she won. I'm like Russell in that I don't respect Sandra's gameplay (granted I didn't see Sandra's first season). Everyone nowadays is obsessed with jury management, but that's only one part of the game...you also have to be good at challenges, find idols before other players find them and play them properly and then make good game moves so the jury will respect you. Sandra was only good at the social game, she didn't win jack shit, got outplayed and out maneuvered by Russell (yes I do believe this because Russell and Parvati could have worked together to get rid of Sandra whenever they wanted. No Russell wasn't manipualted by Sandra, he honestly thought Sandra was a weak player that didn't deserve to win). I do think Parvati had a solid case to win it that year, I would have respected it if she won, but no way Sandra deserved it. She only won it because of a bitter jury that over exaggerated the jury management aspect of the game.

[@timurtheking]

@@rmh941 amen. Sandra should NOT have won. Russel or Parvati, deserved it...even Russel couldn't even get rid of her half the time cuz of her immunity wins.

[@AirPlaine70]

Jerri sums up the hole thing LMAO. "I'm really happy that Sandra won because he depises Sandra soooo much." It's so satisfying !

[@AllRequired]

And this was Survivor's poster child for the darkness talking. Not a ringing endorsement.

[@radcolortiedye6718]

She's a proven sitter and quitter. Russell would never, NEVER disrespect the game, himself or his fans by quitting. Sandra has lost all credibility with Season 40.

[@tylergoodwin3546]

Sandra is a joke, always has been a joke and can’t play the game without bringing some sob story with her.

[@MrDeceptacon88]

@@AllRequired he revived survor single handedly

[@AGJ117]

@@radcolortiedye6718 Russell disrespected the game in the reunion when he claims there was a flaw in it, which there wasn't. Even then, he still signed up to play a third time.

[@flysam]

dude just casually stole that plant

[@mdiddio]

sam jude 😂

[@debitford]

This was post-reunion show of HvV and they're about to close the event.

[@debitford]

Although that represents Russell's Survivor career. Everything has ended but he's still talking ang never crowned Sole Survivor. Huhu

[@brasstacksboxing409]

@@debitford out of his control. He did his part. Russell is the 🐐

[@milanpapala3475]

read that as soon as it happened

[@MoraAdmiral28]

haha that impression of Rupert, no waaay noooo not me i am Rupert hahahha

[@dreamleaf552]

Part of me respects just how hard he tries and pushes himself, but part of me finds his inability to understand his own shortcomings despite not even being able to get a single jury vote cringe worthy. Easily one of the worst social games ever played in the series.

[@bigladthomas]

@Dreamleaf He definitely didn’t play a good social game this season but he still should’ve won because of his strategic game and his dominance.

[@livm9306]

@@bigladthomas He should’ve known that the jury wouldn’t vote for someone who screwed them over. The jury is always bitter, and you have to take that into account when playing the game.

[@romeohart7558]

@@bigladthomas that never guarantees a win. You need a good strategic game, a good social game, and a bit of luck. He had only one, good enough to get him in the end but not to win. Also, he played twice after and went home 2nd.

[@DvineAnarchy]

He has a point, making it to the end is like 50% of the game, and I'd rather be at the final 3 with 0 votes then be liked by the contestants and be 5th on the jury, dude plays damn hard to stay alive and everyone is so butt hurt that they lost their opportunity because they couldn't play as hard as he did, I never knew he stayed on the island as well that's fucking insane, Russel beat survivor, sadly he didn't win

[@LiteDisc]

I mean, that's not really something that says he should win in that final three, because he was sitting beside two people who not only made it to the end before, but also got the votes needed to win. Parvati in Micronesia and Sandra in Pearl Islands.

[@Querent2000]

Cheaters never prosper.

[@baddragonfire]

The fact is that people have made it to he final 3 while also being liked by the contestants.... you do not have to choose one way or another. 50% percent of the game is not enough to win which Russell proved twice with his poor performance. 50% is failing..... and that's what his type of strategy gets you, failure. Lying cheating and screwing people over seems to be the easy way out of survivor so it does not seem like he played damn hard. It seems more like he played the easy game by taking every chance to hurt his fellow contestants and then when he had a chance to win at the end by simply saying that he had some regrets he couldn't swallow his ego to sooth the jury. Honestly, screwing people over is part of the game but acting like a D on top of that simply is crap tactics and its called doing too much. If you do have to screw someone over don't be smug afterwards cuz that's how you lose the jury.

[@swollivan7494]

Querent2000 how did he cheat? You must be deluded

[@lungisatakane772]

@@baddragonfire People forget that Parvati also lost. The least hated person always wins at the end. It's probably one of Survivors major flaws. You could have ridden coattails all game but if you spoke to people enough to not hate you you win. If everyone played the way to lets say Natalie did it would be boring.

[@LilannB]

Wow Russell is obviously bitter. He had the same attitude when he lost in Samoa.Part of Russell's problem is that he takes the wrong people to the end. Boston Rob is also a villain he backstabs people right and left. He's also charming and charismatic. The last time he played he took two people to the end who even the most bitter jury wouldn't give a million dollars to.

[@TheAnGryPOolMaN]

Russell should have took jaison instead of Natalie. Would have won for sure

[@Smartphone775]

TheAnGryPOolMaN Shambo instead of Jaison. Most of Galu never did gel with Shambo, especially after the flip. Jaison did go to college to study law and is presumably a good public speaker.

[@russianskatingfan]

Exactly. Rob is basically Russell except he actually does take huge goats to the end. Had Russell taken Jaison and Mick on Samoa, Candice and Danielle in HvV he might have won, and that would be the only way. Just like Rob's only way of winning was taking Natalie and Phillip, and unlike Russell he recognized it and did it.

[@russianskatingfan]

Jaison was disliked and most an aggravation to people that season, he was a lazy whiner who got on everyones nerves and didnt play the game either. Even a good FTC would have done nothing for him at that point. Russell's best F3 would be Jaison and Shambo. He wins that for sure. Neither of those was ever winning. Jaison and Mick (or Shambo and Mick) might have also won it for him, but Mick would have a shot, wouldnt be as sure a win for him as Jaison and Shambo.

[@tempo869]

LilannB well Sandra for damn sure didn't deserve it

[@thecardoski]

All 3 were bullies, it's just Sandra hides it best. I do think Russel was robbed in Somoa but this season could have gone to any of the 3.

[@thewachannel4537]

I agree that Russell was robbed in Samoa. The Galu Tribe were a bunch of Bums they were! They dug their own grave turning against Erik, they got overconfident putting all their votes on Russell who played an Idol resulting in Kelly getting blindsided, and then they made Shambo a sitting duck, If they had common sense, they should've eliminated Shambo the one time they lost the Tribal Immunity challenge and went to Tribal Council, That Tribe sucks! They foolishly take their anger out on Russell, when he proved that he was ten times the better leader of the Foa Foa Four than Mick was! If I was on the Jury in that season, I would talk Mick down for being the worst Tribe leader in Survivor history, I would praise Natalie for being a strong woman but criticize her for not pulling off any big moves/blindsides or at least winning one individual immunity challenge. On the other hand, I'd campaign for Russell to win just like David Murphy did for Boston Rob in Redemption Island and what Spencer Bledsoe did for Tony Vlachos in Cagayan. Russell, was the reason why Foa Foa had started off as the underdog Tribe and had managed to have 3 remaining members make it to the Final Tribal Council, He might not have had a good social game, but finding THREE hidden immunity Idols and winning the Final Immunity Challenge over Brett, In the end I would vote for him to win in Samoa. I probably would not vote for him in Heroes Vs. Villains though, because when you have a second chance at competing on Survivor, you want to use the second chance to learn from your mistakes that cost you the game the first time, The way i see it, Russell didn't improve on his Social Game, I would vote for Parvati instead in HvV because her moves stood out more than Russell's did and she won more individual immunity challenges than Russell did. But, I would only vote for Russell a second time if he had voted Parvati out at the Final 4 when he had the chance and had taken Sandra and Jerri with him to the Final Three. Anyway, that's just my take on how Russell played in his first two seasons!

[@steppingstone683]

Sandra sucked at everything and was annoying, the only reason she won cause nobody cared about her and people hated on Russell and parvarti from beating them

[@chancepryor]

Parvati is NOT a bully.

[@mhalbe1984]

I disagree. Well, Russell WAS a bully, no doubting that. Parvati was just a playful villain and Sandra was actually cool with the heroes (why she got their votes). I think Samoa was an important season to show that if you are an A-Hole you won't win. You can't bully your way to winning survivor. It was showin All Stars and now it's shown in Samoa. The social game matters. Russell was a sacrificial lamb to proving this point to future seasons. I do agree with Coach in the final tribal that if Russell was a little more apologetic and human, he could have gotten more support, but instead he resorted to calling Rupert 'a dumbass'. Great way to garner votes, idiot.

[@poison6084]

None of them are bullies bro , if you want to see what an ACTUAL bully on survivor is look up Colton Cumble

[@carriewhitmore]

Please... If the cast of HvV would have been able to see the way Russel played in Samoa, he would have been out way earlier, and JT wouldn't have given him his idol. He had an unfair advantage.

[@tylergoodwin3546]

Playing back to back season is an unfair advantage. Lol ur dumb

[@carriewhitmore]

@@tylergoodwin3546 You missed my entire point.

[@joncheskin]

The sure zeroed in on Parvati fast enough.

[@ethangc081]

@@tylergoodwin3546 Playing back to back also means nobody on your 2nd season will know who you are, since they’re filmed back to back too.

[@brasstacksboxing409]

@@carriewhitmore maybe, but his point trumped yours.

[@thesir27]

now he's just like Coach, he thinks his way of playing should be the "standard" whether it works or not. Survivor is about winning whatever way works

[@AndrewSmith-pn2qc]

@Sam Crow Look the producers have done a lot to make the game better. Sandra's win in HvV was their wake up call that there was a problem with the game and that things needed to change. Over the past 20 seasons, we have had nothing but good deserving winners. Even Michelle was not that bad.

[@joncheskin]

Coach was really annoying in his first season, but I thought was a lovable doofus here.

[@rcrowman]

There's more to playing the game than just being the best "back stabber" or "villain" like Russel. This is something he has never come to understand. In the end, you are trying to "earn" the vote of your fellow players. His only true merited title would, and should be, "the most untrustworthy, back-stabbing, evil, lying, cheating, and deceitful player of all time". It's not hard to see why no one on the jury would want to cast their vote for Russel considering the way in which he played the game. In the end, the members of the jury will cast their votes most deserving of winning. Russel's game had virtually no honor or integrity. His only merits were based upon how he arose to new levels of dishonor and lack of integrity. Why would anyone want to reward someone for playing a game that way?

[@AllRequired]

Roger Crow That and a hidden immunity idol was always involved. Not the mark of the best Survivor player.

[@ronaldm.6150]

I don't think you understand that the goal is to get to the end and that the jury has an obligation to vote for the best player. Russell was by far the best player in season 20, and the jury's voting for Sandra and not him is absolutely inexcusable.

[@juliantahyar9517]

​@@ronaldm.6150 You're wrong. The point of the game is to get to the end AND get the jury to vote for you (which contrary to what you just said, has no obligation. The whole point is they vote for who they want). Russell is great at part one (but not as great as people say he is - the fact that he's hated by basically every other contestant helps get him there because he makes an ideal goat) but is possibly the worst possible survivor player ever at part two which is why he's never actually won and despite what he believes, has never had any real chance of winning.

[@commentingperson9554]

@@juliantahyar9517 No, you're wrong. The point of the game is to get to the end, if the jury isn't bitter they'll vote you to win if you were the best of the season, but Russell's juries knowingly incorrectly voting Natalie and Sandra to win. It was Russell who was the Sole Survivor of his seasons.

[@AllRequired]

@@juliantahyar9517 Correct. Getting to the end is easy. But when your fellows are on the jury and each is holding a vote YOU NEED, it's getting their votes that counts. Russell thinks it's all about stealing the chickens. He can't fathom the idea that he actually has to get out of the barn before it burns down.

[@TaxEvasi0n]

Russel is a corporate man. That's how you become a millionaire by working for other people. He played the sly game because that's what he was brought up in. As someone who also works in a corporate business, it's cut throat at the top, it's every man for himself. You make acquaintances with those who can put you further up the ladder, and that's exactly what Russel did. There is no argument anyone can say to explain why he shouldn't have won. He did the most work out of everyone. His intelligence, tenacity, and social game hands down got him to the end. He was in control 95% of the time, he brought Natalie to the end. The reason she won was because she did NOTHING. She didn't manipulate anyone, she didn't lie to anyone, she didn't even win any challenges. She's not smart, she's not athletic, she was just... there when the other 2 people left on the podium had ruffled feathers. She couldn't believe it when she won it. Russel literally carved the path for her and she was behind him the whole time. Everyone on the jury voted emotionally, and that's not how you make smart decisions. Russel got robbed twice.

[@livm9306]

The jury almost always votes emotionally. In a perfect world where the jury voted on who played the game best, Russell would’ve won. But he doesn’t play the social game, he makes the jury hate him then expects they’ll be impartial. He should’ve won, but he should’ve known he wouldn’t.

[@purplejakman]

@@livm9306 I don't understand your guy's logic, literally makes no sense. You say he plays the perfect game but both times he had almost the entire tribe hating him, that is such a huge flaw in his gameplay it's obvious, and you guys even point it out, yet you still believe he should have won, even though he was not the best at playing the game like how you guys admit

[@jacksullivan6695]

russell is a very entertaining villian i'm very impressed that he managed to play two seasons back to back and make it to the final 3 twicee is really impressive and no one has ever done it before

[@emmalefinson1619]

I’m pretty sure Amanda Kimmel did it

[@googleassistantofficial]

​@@emmalefinson1619yup

[@lovelybun5912]

From day one Villains planned to vote Russell out. And I'm talking about the worst of worst Villains in survivor history; and the fact that he made it all the way to the top 3 kicking people off and carrying Parvati on the palm of his hand.... man, he should at least win a medal

[@LiteDisc]

What? Parvati was target number one the moment she stepped on the beach, I think you're misremembering the season. Parvati's name got thrown out pretty much every tribal council.

[@bigladthomas]

@Dallas and you wanna know how Parvati survived? Because of Russell. He gave 2 of his idols for her (One of them saved her). He chose to blindside Danielle and Jerri instead of her.

[@VIDEOSCUORESANNITA]

Carrying Parvati? I guess you don't understand her genius strategy. She even said it "I kept him, as my pet".

[@entertainer_ev2747]

He really is an egotist.

[@trentinho3647]

King you mean?

[@trentinho3647]

@Abby from wii sports the best never win

[@rhondalynch6969]

Ppl love snakes😏

[@trentinho3647]

@@rhondalynch6969 and so u are

[@joncheskin]

And a whiner. As a student of the game he should know and I'm sure he does know that the only thing that matters is who gets the most votes.

[@charltownsend5299]

Russel had an advantage because the cast didn't get a chance to see him play in season 19.

[@floodwaters8887]

Yep, he has zero chance now

[@BenMatthewson]

That's not necessarily an advantage

[@floodwaters8887]

@@BenMatthewson yea it is, Russell as a unknown was lethal, Russell as a known is out first or second tribal

[@BenMatthewson]

@@floodwaters8887 my point wasn't for Russell's case alone it was in general, people prefer the evil they know to the unknown, therefore those players whose game is unknown could potentially be targeted first due to the fear of being unknown

[@floodwaters8887]

@@BenMatthewson Disagree, you can fly under the radar as a unknown, Russell as a known could play the perfect game and he'll still got within 2 tribals

[@bl2901]

That's why he was so good in heroes vs villains he just came off of his previous season so he was already adjusted and still in game mode where as most of the others had a alot of time off

[@ryans413]

Russell come along way since this interview. He’s more respectful now even admitted he was stupid after the show was done.

[@radcolortiedye6718]

Yup, and after rewatching Samoa, it's amazing that he didnt win. His game play of being a bully and playing the jury wrong is blown way out of proportion because of HvV. He was brilliant in season 19 and totally robbed by a bitter jury. Season 20 should have gone to Parvati or Russell. No way, Sandra deserves it.

[@stickfigurecity]

@@radcolortiedye6718 Sandra, unlike Parvati or Russell, actually knew how to manage the jury, so before you make trash takes like these, learn how the game works.

[@radcolortiedye6718]

She persuaded a bitter jury, sure. She did not play a better game. That's a fact.

[@stickfigurecity]

@@radcolortiedye6718 Russell had 0 social game. Sandra's was 1,000,000x better. No one would wanna give a million dollars to an arrogant showboater. We can also take into account how bad Russell's FTC performance was. Keep coming at me with your half baked lame ass excuses for takes.

[@stickfigurecity]

@@radcolortiedye6718 Also, for even more proof that Sandra > Russell here's a breakdown of their HvV games the max points for social game are 10, max point for strategic game is 5 and max point for physical game is 1 Sandra Physical: 0/1 Social: 9/10 Strategic: 4/5 Total: 13/16, 81% Russell Physical: 0.5/1 Social: -1/10 Strategic: 5/5 Total: 4.5/16, 28% and you know what lets throw parvati in here too Parvati Physical: 0.5/1 Social: 7/10 Strategic: 3/5 Total: 10.5/16, 65% so we can really tell who the rightful winner is

[@spkill6629]

Everyone is just butthurt that he outsmarted them even though it’s literally called Survivor Outwit, Outplay, Outlast. I just don’t think it was really fair for people to not give credit where credit is due. In my opinion, one of the best players ever.

[@a.jdeets5527]

SpKill Maybe he shouldn’t be an asshole to the people voting for him to win a million dollars.

[@shooshtimebaby1596]

20 years later he's still my top 2 player until this time (only next to Boston Rob) .... the most conniving, smartest, cut throat player in the history of Survivor.....

[@13thera21]

Tony better than both of em

[@HumilityListens]

He literally got lucky with jerri being a complete bafoon its crazy how a couple bafoons can give this guy so much ego

[@GokuIRL]

Tony and Sandra are the best, Tony #1. Sandra was more passive.

[@dimitarapostolov937]

Are you kidding me? Russell is by far the greatest player. His only downfall is that the jury are the people that he outwitted, outsmarted, outplayed and in the end he took them 1 by 1 even when the numbers weren't on his side. He was the one to change the game. And the jury was just bitter both times, and they couldn't accept that they were beaten when they were majority. Just so damn sad.

[@bigboygains137]

the biggest robbery ive ever seen in my life

[@user-db9vy2gh3v]

Is this a joke?

[@snakeking5009]

I think parv got robbed but sandra should have never been considered for the finale.

[@bradypennock777]

@@snakeking5009 how? How? Bro carried parv to the final

[@stinkypeterson7699]

At the very least Russel should’ve won one of the first 2 seasons he was on. He was the best player his first time around and he was the best villain his second time around which was a heavy theme for season 20

[@AllRequired]

When your game play appeals to only two players out of 18, the "best player" argument holds no water.

[@jimbeam4140]

From the beginning of the game to just prior to the jury votes, Hantz is by far the best player to ever play Survivor. There is absolutely no question about that. His problem is that he simply can't understand the merits of a game which punishes people for the way they send others packing. There is some merit to firing someone and not having them hate you. I have seen him interviewed a few times and as smart as he is, he just can't seem to understand that. He also can't see that while America loves his dominance, regular Americans aren't the ones getting voted off the island. He just doesn't seem to understand that other people can see the world differently than he does. That's a really big weakness in life that comes through in his game.

[@jimbeam4140]

***** I like your last sentence. I agree with what you're saying, but Russell didn't seem to learn from his first experience that not everyone sees the world the same way he does. That's one thing Rob did that might make him a better all around player. Rob eventually realized the importance of jury management. I wonder if Russell came back again whether he could change his game just enough that he might win over a jury. I would love to see it.

[@TheBlindEternities]

"Hantz is by far the best player to ever play Survivor" -- Do you still think this? Even after seeing Tony play his game? Tony was pretty much a perfect version of Russel.

[@TheBlindEternities]

***** It's from Survivor: Cagayan, and it is definitely worth it!

[@ElectrikkPaperClipxx]

"Hantz is by far the best player to ever play Survivor" yeah, he's SO good, that he fails at the key to winning- getting on people's good sides. Jury votes trump clever blindsides every time.

[@jimbeam4140]

***** Dude, you really need to re-read my first sentence. There is a comma before the word "Hantz" and what you quoted of me is a phrase and not a complete sentence. My entire post was about my first sentence. If you re-read my post carefully you'll see the mistake you made. If you DO read this post, please have the common decency to apologize. I realize that you probably read my post quickly and probably missed the comma. We all make mistakes like that.

[@TheKili78]

Russell should've won Samoa but Sandra beat the hell out of him in HvW, ACCEPT IT!

[@dylanratey4943]

I love Russell he's one hell of a player for entertainment

[@tj9944]

So from my understanding: Samoa was filmed June-July 2009 Heroes v Villains was filmed August-September 2009 Meanwhile Samoas Live Finale was December 2009 Heroes v Villains Finale was May 2010 So if I'm understanding this thar means Russell played 39 days back to back with a 2 week break, then came back for two live Finale thar he then lost Ouuuch

[@robbiebreen521]

3:20, 'and I'll be taking this'

[@btreese7]

He doesn't understand the game. It's not a popular vote. You can't treat people poorly and get their vote. That's the beauty of the game.

[@nickp3949]

"My social game WAS that good". Sure Russell, if intimidating someone into doing what you want them to do is "socially amazing" to you, then...idk what to say. Also Russell's logic of "I'm SO good at the game that I can't win" is just hilarious. I am so damn good at bowling, I can never get a strike, that's how GOOD I am.

[@kokestone898]

Russell and Parvati were so much fun.

[@jpad319]

That tribe just wasn't going to be tolerant of his antics, which is why he was out fast. To think, all he had to do was play a different game. Also, what matters was that they kicked him out, not what would happen going forward. And the thing about Sandra, she plays well where it counts. Can't be bothered to convince the people you beat to reward you? Expect to get runner-up. That's all there is to it. As for Fabio, he was friendly to boot, which is why he got the grand prize.

[@DameTheHooligan420]

Say wtf you want but this man managed to make back to back seasons with a 10 day break..imagine that! Give credit where it's due. This man accomplished something that survivors who are highly praised couldn't do..yes some won..but would they make the end again on a 10 day break

[@MsVitaD]

Russell has tons of heart and grit and was one hell of a player. Love him or hate him, the fact that he did 2 seasons back to back with only 10 days in between, never quit and made it to the end in both seasons is badass. Tons of respect to this man right here, he is a legend. Him, Sandra and Parv are the best f3 of all time

[@joncheskin]

The Jedi mind trick that he played on Tyson I thought was one of the all-time best moves ever. He never even asked Tyson to change is vote.

[@MsVitaD]

@@joncheskin in a secret scene u can see Parvati trying to work her magic on him to get him to flip his vote but Tyson said that nobody really convinced him to do it nor did he tell anyone he was going to do it, he just stupidly made a mistake on his own bc he wanted Parvati gone so that he could try and be Russell’s number 1.

[@MrMiningTrolls]

Survivor is a #popularitycontest

[@ElectrikkPaperClipxx]

yes. thou shalt appeal to thy jury.

[@michaeljenkins746]

This is why Russell will always will b my favorite survivor player the way he talks and thinks Russell is the best.

[@HumilityListens]

How is he the best hea never won

[@michaeljenkins746]

@@HumilityListens made it to the finals twice found all the hidden idols

[@redber16]

What he did, whatever you think of him, to go into survivor and do the things he did against all stars back to back seasons. Most players just stand there and hope and pray, and ppl call them great players. He went in there and played like no one ever has.

[@metal1616]

If he wants to be consider the best player, he needs to admit he had a bad social game instead of calling the game flawed

[@lonerebeI]

A lot of times the jury voting is flawed though, when they vote with their emotions instead of logic

[@kimbluebayou]

@@lonerebeI what do you mean by logic. of course it's part of the game to know how the jury members vote whether logically or emotionally. if it's just pure logical then the jury members aren't even needed. jury management is the most important part of survivor.

[@SanctreMalleus]

Russel Hanz was the best player no matter what you think. He won in challenges and destroyed a kabal that had the majority vote trying to get him off since day 1, and then going into the merge and continuing to win despite the odds. Bullshit to the social game, russel proved to be the Survivor because he made it to the final despite fighting uphill the entire time, while Sandra did shit all and won by default. He also played 2 seasons in a row.

[@Querent2000]

You're completely wrong.

[@maria44688]

@em116 the first time she won, she flew under the radar, which is a very good strategy. no one hated her and she never got voted out. in heros vs villians, she lied to russell and told him coach wanted him out, knowing he would tell his alliance to vote out coach and keep her and courtney around a while longer. and russell totally bought it, therefore he was minipulated.

[@kevinujoodha5985]

Would love to see Russell do a video commentating this video live on his channel. After his last 2 videos he posted, it'd be awesome to hear how he views himself speaking here

[@mattman5791]

Best survivor player to never win the game

[@ElectrikkPaperClipxx]

Cirie isn't in this video.

[@thomassmith2128]

Rob C is so freaking overrated lol but Cirie is better than russell by a hair. She's never been voted off normally, went out by fire, an idol, everyone else having an idol, and a surprise final 2. IMO cirie and russell both have arguments that they should have 2 wins on their record.

[@AirPlaine70]

No.

[@ronaldm.6150]

Best "Survivor" player ever, period.... He makes an interesting statement at the end when saying that CBS "picked" Sandra to win. I have wondered how real this show is, and one of the main aspects of the liberal media is to promote black/female individuals and harass white/male individuals. Clearly, Russell was by far the deserved winner in this series, whereas Sandra just got carried along while offering nothing to her team. I despise GEICO, Liberty Mutual, and other such companies for doing this sort of thing, and one such commercial that comes to mind is the GEICO ad where the female, black attorney loses unfairly---- which is meant to imply that America has a bias toward white people. Oh, my, don't get me started against this leftist trash. (Actually, I'm already started. I fight these people daily.)

[@Querent2000]

Not.

[@SanctreMalleus]

If Parvati was a man she wouldn't have gotten a single vote either. Her game was the same as russell's, and she back stabbed and knived as much as he did, perhaps even more. Just because she smiled at the camera, whilst Russell was honest and open about what he was doing doesn't change that fact. Sandra won by default though.

[@jpad319]

Still crying foul over his loss FOUR years after the fact? That is just sad. And to think, he's already been proven to be a one-dimensional, overrated jury fodder. Talk about getting a life when someone needs to practice what they preach. That's disgusting.

[@thegraylink8269]

To be fair he should of won Samoa HvV I don't know probably not

[@jordanm5025]

Why is laying low not a valid strategy? Would you all be criticizing Natalie if she had gotten even half the amount of airtime that Russell received? Alienating the jury is a poor strategy to me.

[@lampshades120]

His frustration is hilarious to watch

[@marksinger4415]

He didn’t go home... that’s impressive.

[@iEnjoyEatingFarts]

Russell, you won Player of the Season because everybody votes for whoever was the most entertaining and usually who had the most air time. Parvati won Fans vs Favorites even though she voted several of the jury members out and she was very sneaky. You know why? Because she wasn't an arrogant bitch to everyone.

[@SteeledBros44]

And cuz she was a flirt

[@mattman5791]

Can't stand when a jury is bitterand takes everything personally. Jury should always reward gameplay and Russell played a great game

[@danielkelly8742]

Russel was the best player to play so far and they didn’t vote for him because they were salty. Simple as that

[@caidenmagill1006]

Yup

[@bloodorange6713]

Sandra was a bump on a log, didnt deserve the win

[@AllRequired]

@ButlerLewis "Survivor Crowns a Winner, Offending Many Who Do Not Understand Survivor." "The Fall of Russell Hantz, Part 1." "The Fall of Russell Hantz, Part 2." It's a political campaign.

[@lil80mama03]

he lost twice with his "wonderful gameplay" but he is so intelligent that he will NOT change his mind.

[@brasstacksboxing409]

Why should he. He is the fan favorite, and the 🐐.

[@lil80mama03]

😂😂😂

[@laurie1424]

One fact in Survivor, you can never win if the jury hates you or doesn't respect you. Russel's ego hijacks him every time. The most important aspect of Survivor is to make people like you as you screw them, Russel doesn't have a clue. Sandra is by far the better player.

[@dillonbrooks7807]

Sandra doesn’t even try in challenges. She doesn’t help at camp. She ruins survivor. The idea of survivor. You know how many people who love to play in a challenge and she multiple times gives up.

[@googleassistantofficial]

​@@dillonbrooks7807the point of survivor isn't to win challenges or help around at camp.. it's just to win and Sandra has been able to do it twice

[@jpad319]

That's what happens if you don't understand that you still have to convince the people you beat to hand you the prize and you need to look at the consequences of your gameplay. And besides, the people only see .001% of what happens in those 39 days. The players get to see what he is like. Word of advice: Don't be so quick in drinking that Kool-Aid.

[@survivorfreak44720]

im sorry russell i like you but its not about america its not american idol this is survivor and its about the people you play against

[@AllRequired]

"The Fall of Russell Hantz Part 2,: The Funny 115 v2.0. Google it, Read it.

[@survivorfandan_sa9]

I did :) so good, Sandra got him Changa'd

[@Crisrav1138]

What crap. Parvati was the best player. Russell's idea of America chosing the winner is the stupidest idea ever. The audience doesn't see everything, they only see what the editors/producers choose. The players see everything and have more information instead of just what's on TV. Russell's just making excuses for being a 2 time loser, and he'll never win.

[@lizzieAGAIN]

I think russel just doesn’t understand how survivor works...

[@commentingperson9554]

No, he really does.

[@tiagocardoso2897]

@@commentingperson9554 Then why doesn't he win?

[@commentingperson9554]

@@tiagocardoso2897 Bitter, incorrect juries.

[@tiagocardoso2897]

@@commentingperson9554 The juries are only as bitter as you make them. Russell made plenty of them bitter due to being a controlling asshole and treating people like they were below him.

[@bigladthomas]

@Tiago Cardoso You have to be a pussy to get offered by Russell’s game. There’s no excuses for bitter Juries they always ruin the end result of the game. All Stars, Vanuatu, Tocantins, Samoa, HvV, Nicaragua, South Pacific, Koah Rong and Ghost Island.

[@spfan68]

Russell is exactly right. He's not bitter about losing, he's bitter about losing to Sandra who did nothing. She was a coat tail rider. She did nothing socially. Her alliance was taken out by Russell. She had no real friends left by the end. He gives credit to the other good players. Sandra winning that season was the most undeserving win. Russell should have won easily. Parvati winning wouldn't have been near as bad because she was a strong player in all assets as well.

[@GokuIRL]

The game is called survivor, not best game player. Sandra best survived in those conditions, hence why she won and Russel didn't.

[@dookiebirds2223]

@jethyy Look, Russ stated before this show that his main goal was to come in and show America how foolish he could make the supposed "All-Stars" look, in which he did spectacularly. About the pre-merge, CBS only showed 25 seconds of the 15 minute conversation they had, which involved Russell convincing Tyson to switch his vote. That takes serious social skill, and was probably the best Tribal in Survivor history. All this "would have been gone" shit is useless, he's never lost before the jury.

[@Suppis95]

Survivor is social game. The only thing you need to do in Survivor is to get to the finals and make jury like you so you get enough votes to win. That's been the shows purpose since the first season. If you think Russell should've won then you clearly don't understand the concept of Survivor.

[@Quetzal00358]

"America sees it. Everybody sees it." because you take up so much screen time that there is no one else to see

[@Jenn4270]

I could never understand why so many viewers liked him. He's a disgusting human being, and it scares me that so many viewers liked him enough to give him fan favorite two years in a row. He's not the best player...if he were even a good player, he would have won both seasons. I'm pretty sure the viewers would have had a much different perspective and view of Russell if they were the ones who were cheated like shit by him.

[@thelousyllama]

russell is the person who is "good tv".... but you will never like being around

[@doubleo2720]

Let me tell you the sole reason why Russell didn't win in Samoa and didn't win in Heros v Villains and will probably never win. And it's not because he lacks jury management or is perceived as being a back stabber. It for a very simple genetic reason and that is that he is not good looking; imagine if Russell looked like Rob or Colby, instead of being seen as sneaky and conniving he would be charming and strategic. People underestimate the Halo effect. Show me one ugly survivor winner and I'm not saying he's ugly but short guys with a loose tooth who kinda look like baby trolls don't win jury votes. I make a comparison to Dave Genat in Australian Survivor (which is a totally different game simply because the Jury aren't bitter bitches),he in all stars at merge goes to the other tribe and says 'yes I'm with you, I'll vote your way' then at triable council votes against them. A great move and he's praised for it! and very similar to what Russell did with J.T, but what the difference? David is very good looking whilst Russel is not. Guys type up the Halo effect if you don't believe me.

[@aScentlessApprentice]

Damn that’s actually a good point

[@ppeter9467]

I have never watched Australian Survivor, but I am guessing that Dave guy you mentioned didn't swear on his children's life, just like EVERY NORMAL HUMAN BEING

[@doubleo2720]

@@ppeter9467 IT’S A GAME. This is SURVIVOR. And these people were silly to believe him in a game for a million dollars. And you should watch Australian survivor it’s so much better. There are no personal attacks and everyone respects the game play at final tribal. I’ve come to realise that Americans are salty, bitter people because if Russell played his game in Australian survivor he would hands down get the win.

[@ppeter9467]

@@doubleo2720 Actually he did, according to wiki he played in Australian Survivor: Champions vs. Contenders. Not gonna spoil it for you in case you haven't watched it. If you ask me, there is not much difference between convincing the jury to vote for you to win at final tribal and convincing the majority not to vote you out in the early part of the game. So if stronger players could be voted out early simply because others don't like them, or they are at the wrong side of the numbers, there should not be a problem for the strongest player(for argument's sake let's say is Russel) not being able to win. Survivor is a very complex game, in theory, every player has the same chance to win at the beginning of the game, regardless of their background, gender, age and any other factors. It's the choices people make, things they do or say along the game that sets them apart. Russel certainly has made a lot of right choices, allowing himself to proceed to the final three, but also said or done something wrong along the way so he couldn't grasp the final victory, simple as that.

[@doubleo2720]

@@ppeter9467 I have watched that season and he only got voted off because of his reputation. I’m saying that if he played the game he played in Samoa where no one knew him then I think he would get the W.

[@hafiszzzzzsurvivor]

Pathetic! He still lose for the 3rd time.

[@lukeferraro01]

If Russell played today and dominated like he did back in the day, he easily wins.

[@GeorgeEugeneBarrett]

You can’t be an asshole to people for 39 days and expect them to give you $1 million.

[@kyled2976]

He just doesn't get it.

[@bigladthomas]

Because he’s right, he played amazing! He was in control of the whole game!

[@Lori-xt2lf]

Russel used persuasive techniques and strategies, I think he picked up a lot of things from BR - but he plays no social game, which makes it impossible for him to win. He’s just a dangerous goat. He is like a certain party in politics who are literally incapable of seeing both sides of an issue, so they 100% believe their way is the only one worth considering.

[@puppsnuggs]

Hobbits do get angry

[@anthonymort5202]

I love how he says Sandra is a terrible player but she's won twice and he's won how many times don't worry I'll wait

[@thefinisher2913]

the jury was so bitter but russell still bitter till this day

[@brasstacksboxing409]

Can u blame him?

[@xlite4481]

@@brasstacksboxing409 exactly

[@matbolabc]

Survivor is a game about social politics... the ENTIRE POINT of Survivor is to make it to the end AND THEN turn around and campaign for votes from the very people you ousted. JURY MANAGEMENT is crucial in Survivor and Russell FAILS miserably in that aspect.

[@TimothyBukowskiApologist]

Russell will never understand this game. He never was a fan of the game, and he just doesn't understand it. It isn't all about immunity idols and getting the weak to fawn over you. The most IMPORTANT aspect of Survivor is getting the people who you voted out to put your name on a piece of paper to win a million dollars. He was abrasive, and disgusting. He was arrogant, and he was weak

[@MrAitraining]

Russell's back to back season performances on Samoa and HvV was great.

[@ashwinnair4816]

russell got robbed

[@bearsoft7830]

Ashwin Nair... he didnt get robbed, it just proves that bullies never win, even in games.

[@Laurian21]

rob played exactly the same in his season versus russel except he was "nice" to the other players. they are both strategic and manipulative and will do whatever it takes to win the game. only difference is rob pretended to care about the others and was not cocky about how good he was. at the last tribal council he even said at the end of the day it was all about him and his family

[@russianskatingfan]

Meh Rob wasnt that different at all. He just took better goats to the end. He would have lost to everyone but Phillip and Natalie. Rob is as much an ass as Russell really, he just recognizes what a goat is and isnt, which Russell is too stupid to.

[@victorvera4844]

Nah, Russell was not really robbed. He played the game twice showing the same shitty behavior in both seasons... what else could he expect?? Furthermore, he was playing HvV against experienced players that tend to take things less personally and, still, he managed to get these players angry at him such that he did not even receive a single vote from them. That clearly shows how poor his social skills are and how bad his strategy is that even experienced players are not willing to give their votes to him or respect his game.

[@noohmike4383]

What Russell didn't realize is that the jury is part of the game, you can't just get to the end claiming you played a great game and win

[@icecoldbruh]

@mcif2485 i agree that players backstab and still get the win. ie Parvarti..but she backstabs and is never mean or rude in the way Russell is..there is a way to finesse the jury and your fellow players.. Russell will never win until he learns that lesson but he said he didnt care so he won't win.

[@Eboe89]

Can't get jury votes, you're not the sole survivor, period

[@thomassmith2128]

I'm sorry, isn't a jury by definition supposed to be impartial?

[@vem6019]

Lol impartial to what exactly? this isn't a court where the jury has to decide guilty or innocent on a specific case that is presented. People give out votes based on different criteria. And I don't really know many who would give the title to someone who stops at nothing and values nothing. Fair enough, outplay outwit outlast, but be a person and most importantly do not get on people's nerves in this game because the real goal is the title not getting to the final three. The guy was so delusional that thought sandra would get 0 votes lmao...

[@thomassmith2128]

Vem so did Parvati? Does she suck too? Only reason Sandra won is bc she failed the entire game at trying to get Russell out. But idc about 20, my beefs with 19. Yes a jury in anything is designed to be impartial and vote based on give criteria in survivor its outplay outwit outlast. This bullshit of "he voted me out so I hate him" is ruining survivor

[@vem6019]

Parvati didn't suck at all (nonetheless she didn't do any hero-tribe jury management after the merge so she lost). And no, a jury of survivor won't be impartial. What you're saying is just naive and not applicable. If Russell has supposedly outwited everyone then I would argue that Rob knew what he was up to and devised the perfect way to vote in order to get him or Parvati out, explained to everyone that it was 100% faultproof and Tyson fucked up at the tribal. Why? cuz he wanted Parvati out so much that he just acted against logic. So no... its not white and black. I mean, it's not like I'm lobbying for Sandra or anything but give the woman some credit. We all know she sucks horribly at challenges and admits so herself and still won twice. Doesn't making strong alliances and keeping yourself in the game (without backstabbing everyone = jury sympathy) fall under the categories of outwitting and outlasting? I would think the way she played was way smarter vis-a-vis russell's considering the circumstances. After all the game's goal is the 1million not getting to the final 3

[@thomassmith2128]

thats my point. Russell isn't an idiot for thinking Sandra wouldn't win, parvarti didn't think she had a shot either. Russell got tyson to switch his vote point blank. Thats good russell, more than its bad tyson. I love sandra, my main problem is with the idea that somehow a guy that made a fool of tyson (winner), rob (winner), Coach (almost winner), and stop a 2 time winner in sandra from doing the one thing she desperately wanted to do all game (get russell out) could be a terrible player. Jury members vote for who they are most like 9 times out of 10. Thats why cirie votes for strategy and ozzy votes for competitions and work around camp. A poor cast in Somoa with no clue what survivor is voted for a girl because she was cute and was nice to them while russell did all the work the whole season. Is Russell perfect? fuck no, is he a top 25 player? of course

[@nicobridge8635]

In my opinion, Mr Hantz is the SOLE SURVIVOR of both season. This great man was ahead of his time.

[@Lekeeon]

HE IS THE KING OF THE SHOW

[@Querent2000]

Totally wrong.

[@AllRequired]

At losing.

[@youngdidgy8948]

I love Russell, but if you think this dude was robbed, then you don’t really know how Survivor works.