Russia Is Taking Cannons from BMP-1s to Make Infantry Support Guns

[@TheArmourersBench]

Correction: I said recoilless gun, I should have said low pressure gun! Thanks for watching guys, dont forget to check out the accompanying article for this video here - armourersbench.com/2024/10/13/dismounted-2a28s-as-improvised-support-guns. Thanks - Matt

[@IvanBaturaChannel]

Also "a variety of rounds from HE to HEAT" - that's the only two types that it can fire. Only two.

[@TheArmourersBench]

@@IvanBaturaChannel HEAT and HE fragmentation are pretty different 👍

[@IvanBaturaChannel]

​@@TheArmourersBenchI mean, calling two types "a variety" sounds funny

[@TheArmourersBench]

@@IvanBaturaChannel Appreciate that. Can't always be perfect!

[@FyodorUshakovSuka]

Yes. Recoillesgun in tank means a suicide! So it was dummy but fun mistake.😇

[@nay1454]

Died in 1945, born in 2024, Welcome back 5-cm-Pak 38

[@ratagris21]

Ja not as Gut!!!

[@hazel5092]

*german gasp* dont beschmutz our Engineering like that

[@Donner906]

@@ratagris21 Shut up and give the Ukrainians more tanks.

[@alkozayats]

@@Donner906 разве что тебе за щеку ))

[@stennan]

​@@hazel5092plenty of desperate wunderwaffe during that war. In line with Russian redneck engineering, AKA Smekalka.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

This is truly turning into a Mad Max war.

[@Past10Performance]

Any war that goes on long enough will

[@gawkthimm6030]

Russia the second best army in Russia...

[@alexnderrrthewoke4479]

Nope. Now its first best army in the world as they winning in ukraine. ​@@gawkthimm6030

[@dx-ek4vr]

Mostly for the Russians though. Weapons-wise, Ukrainians are eating good, even if it’s being drip-fed

[@rhetorical1488]

@@gawkthimm6030 industrial copium from pronoun warriors is hilarious. Not an original thought to be had.

[@harrym740]

These are the russian version of: "Your loss of hearing is not service related."

[@ratagris21]

What???? 🤣

[@rhetorical1488]

lol like the depleted uranium shells did not cause you cancer

[@juhalampola1954]

@@ratagris21 He said "YOUR LOSS OF HEARING IS NOT **wheeze** SERVICE RELATED," sir.

[@nikolaideianov5092]

​@@juhalampola1954WHAT DID YOU SAY? MY EARS GOT DESTROYED ALSO IF I WERE YOU I WOULDNT STAND THIS NEAR THE FIELD GUN

[@Geoduck.]

They won't be around that long......

[@quiteindeed6809]

I like the advanced hearing protection they are using. The good ol look away and cover one ear approach.

[@gtewewrrrrrr]

MAWP

[@CalgarGTX]

Not like they are gonna live long enough for tinitus to be an issue

[@avilhelm1697]

A tried and tested method often combined with the "Safety Squints" eye protection.

[@trashtrashisfree]

Not in the Russian budget.

[@jon9021]

Not to worry…surviving in combat for around 15 minutes max should solve that issue!

[@unebkarnn4842]

Unconfirmed rumors state that russian soldiers have started painting their bmp's red so they can drive faster and dodge enemy fire

[@BlackWolf18C]

'Ere we go! 'Ere we go! 'Ere we go!

[@camrensmith2746]

MOR' DAKKA

[@greenybird7132]

Don’t forget a racing stripe. Those add a TON of horsepower.

[@shawnbres9160]

"seems legit"

[@raiden5176]

3 times the speed of normal bmp

[@rickb1973]

Its a 73mm low-pressure gun, but its not recoilless at all. There are big differences between a 2A28 and a true recoilless rifle and the ammunition each gun uses.

[@TheArmourersBench]

No that's a fair point, no venturi etc. What I should have said is for practical purposes it more a low pressure gun rather than recoilless.

[@MrHws5mp]

@@TheArmourersBench If I understand it correctly, the anti-tank rounds it fires are rocket-assisted, so it functions a bit like a closed-breech RPG-7. A small propellant charge launches the round downrange, then a rocket takes over to propel it further. It has a reputation for low accuracy, which is probably due to this system. Having said that, it's probably safer to use on the field mount than in the BMP, whose autoloader is notorious for amputating careless gunners' arms. The picture you showed on the source vehicle for the cut-down turret version was a BMD-1, not a BMP-1: they both had the same gun in (I think) the same turret, or a very similar one.

[@boocomban]

​@@MrHws5mpNo, BMP-1 uses the same ammunition with the SPG-9 recoilless rifle. Just with less propellant charge.

[@BalbazaktheGreat]

Thank you, I was very confused for a moment.

[@prfwrx2497]

2A28 gun fires the same warhead as SPG-9 with a much reduced propellant charge due to the closed breech. No, you can't mod a SPG 9 ammo to fit a 2A28. The ammo is fixed, not semi-fixed.

[@mdaaaa1211]

They need Toyota pickups

[@TheArmourersBench]

They have Ugaz!

[@bingus_the_dongus]

but a toyota hit diffrent​@@TheArmourersBench

[@censoredbybigbrother1175]

Toyota is the victory wagon!

[@stariyczedun]

@@TheArmourersBench it's called UAZ. I grew up in the town where it's produced and spent my childhood in this piece of shit car. Truly awful ergonomics and hogs gasoline like crazy. It was never shipped ready to use from the factory, always needed repairs from the start. I've been told current quality standards on the factory are even lower.

[@exploatores]

It looks like tecnicals would be a improvement. what ever they are based on.

[@Wayzor_]

They need more duct tape.

[@TylerHarris-yy7uf]

They need more spray foam

[@terok1711]

And proper boots. 😅

[@LukSter18998]

they need to paint it red and green while they’re at it

[@cruzmizzl]

'Car Tape' from SNL's 'Black Jeopardy' 😂😂😢 Go Dougski ! Go Dougski !

[@zbyszanna]

"Combined arms" - yeah, that sounds about right.

[@c0ldsh0w3r]

Combined Arms a la Elden Ring

[@sebbonxxsebbon6824]

"Pathetic" comes to mind. Scratching the bottom of the barrel for weapons.

[@firenado1674]

they all they hear is dinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

[@KVP-c7h]

@@sebbonxxsebbon6824 not really, not a russian specific thing, more ukrainian frankensteins than russian ones.

[@bthsr7113]

@@KVP-c7h Ukraine is the smaller country making do with inconsistent aid packages and whatever they have, locally make, or salvage. What's Russia's excuse?

[@dfan7019]

Finally, rare footage of the 214 Separate Gopnik Brigade's artillery section in action.

[@Dicka899]

this entire war can be set to bandit radio from stalker and it would fit perfectly

[@JJ03330]

So how come town after town is falling? You know what, at least you are having fun guys.

[@grzyb11]

@@Dicka899fr

[@grzyb11]

@@JJ03330?

[@LeroxYT]

Atleast they have artillery 😂

[@PrimarchX]

When Home Depot goes to war...

[@osmacar5331]

so warfare?

[@123456qwful]

At least it not a pirate cannon like what the Syrian did😂

[@osmacar5331]

@@123456qwful say what you want, that is still hilarious.

[@TheGesox]

​@@123456qwful i find their trebuchet constructions more impressive.

[@a330flyguy2]

If something works it's not dumb 🤷

[@kusuma6852]

Towed guns have one advantage: you can run away from them and come back later if you're targeted by counterbattery fire. A BMP-1 can't scatter itself across a football field without exploding first

[@EggwardEgghands]

You're underestimating the power of Russian gear falling apart.

[@jsnldn]

@@EggwardEgghands seems to be working fine considering the Donetsk front is falling apart.

[@alltat]

@@jsnldn Tell that to the people on the Kursk front.

[@SgtBeltfed]

With the extremely short range and long setup time, these things will probably get spotted before they setup, and the counter battery fire will arrive while they're firing their first rounds. Worse still, these things are well within range of FPV drones, so having one fly into the pile of ammo is going to suck.

[@34ccsn]

And these are already there and there is a massive amount of ammo stored for them. Brilliant.

[@UnfollowYourDreams]

The main problem i see with these carriages, no matter if taken from a mortar system or self manufactured, is that they are not designed for the direction of recoil these guns have. This creates extreme inaccuracy after the first shot and will probably shake the whole construction loose over time.

[@fastestdino2]

yeah, likely they can't hold a zero very well. maybe they don't need to.

[@serch3ster]

Those are carriages from Anti Tank guns.

[@UnfollowYourDreams]

@@serch3ster anti tank gun carriages usually come with a shield in the front, are way more rigid and have the gun mounted much closer to the center of gravity. That way the whole thing doesn't jump up a entire foot every time it's fired. (Edit: also anti tank guns are a thing of the past, today infantry uses ATGM in this role)

[@toolbaggers]

This is why the one gunner re-aimed after each shot.

[@jhonbus]

I don't fancy those welds attaching the legs to the turret ring lasting especially long, either. But I suppose none of this is the point really; they're putting parts to use that would otherwise be unusable. Better than nothing doesn't have to be _much_ better to still be better.

[@Maverick-gg2do]

Honestly, this wouldn't be half bad as a defending emplacement. Camouflaged in a dugout, or emplaced in a bunker, and supported by machineguns, it'd probably be a pretty decent infantry support gun. If they fiddle with the elevation or get the trails down in a ditch, you could use them as budget mortars too.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Anything near the front is drone bait.

[@Maverick-gg2do]

@Kyle-sr6jm I mean, yeah. That's a given. It's a lot more compact than a BMP, though, and easier to camoflage and hide. Anything that can't hide from drones tends to die to them eventually anyway. Worst case scenario, though, and it gets hit by a drone. It would only have been manned by 1 or 2 guys. Basically similar to a static machinegun in some ways.

[@josephjackson9679]

​@@Maverick-gg2do Ive seen Ukrainian drones specifically destroy PKMs, even ones camouflaged to hide their positions. Drones are excellent at finding hidden gun emplacements and accurately dropping munitions that will ruin whatever its found, not to mention how the ammo for these is going to be a lot more obvious and vulnerable than belt boxes of 7.62

[@s-man5647]

@@josephjackson9679 you're only seeing the successful drone strikes. you don't know how many drone sorties were made before finding an emplacement nor how long those emplacements were operating before they were found. That drones can be effective is true, that emplacements are obsolete is not established, thus we cannot dismiss @Maverick-gg2do's comment.

[@eighthelement]

This generates only a limited amount of smoke. If camouflaged this seems usable for defense. Carriage is crude, decoupling and emplacing takes too long. For offensive action this thing is not suited.

[@aziris7257]

Man, that guy's gonna be guarding a door one day and say, "I used to be a soldier like you, then I fired a 2A28 twenty times."

[@mfournier8033]

How many rounds down range before those farmer welds let go ffs?

[@lukahutinski9075]

at least 10. after that its unexplored territory

[@alperakyuz9702]

Eh...they will probably get taken out by a drone dropping a 40mm grenade before they reach 10 rounds.

[@osmacar5331]

@@alperakyuz9702 a simple jammer module makes them useless.

[@dsfs17987]

@@osmacar5331 right, so that is why see plenty of large artillery guns with cross holes in their barrels from drones using shaped charges on them... meaning if invaders can't protect those guns, then they most certainly won't be able to supply these with jammers

[@osmacar5331]

@@dsfs17987 ok slavatard.

[@Sweet_Pup_g]

We going back to the Napoleonic Wars now.

[@timmccarthy982]

The Russians aren't their Artillery First Doctrine for 200 Years

[@wolfgangkranek376]

In every war soldiers find their own improvised solutions.

[@Iliya117]

Its still kills people

[@VladimjrPutin]

If youre from america you go nowhere. US is the only country that never got Bombed. Unfortunately

[@nothanks9503]

@@wolfgangkranek376some more pathetic than others

[@mehmeh1999]

Many of these weapons aren't actually going to be used. It's just multiple units fucking about with salvaged weapons and ammo. It's a sort of mini competition of making the most ridiculous thing that could possibly work. Essentially a range toy competition 😂

[@TheArmourersBench]

I want to know who the winner is

[@mehmeh1999]

@@TheArmourersBench The prize is usually armor piercing or incendiary bullets.

[@cp4512]

@@mehmeh1999 naah fella, Russia really is that desperate. They don’t have the time or spare resources just to play around whilst they’re being slaughtered.

[@Wafflepudding]

Any evidence or...?

[@mehmeh1999]

@@Wafflepudding Buddies over there.

[@RyTrapp0]

TAB and Perun uploads, nice start to this Sunday

[@jsnldn]

make sure to catch Zelensky's unveiling of his victory plan and the reaction of his Western overlords too. it's gonna be sweet.😂

[@iamt_tl]

their granddad or great-granddad must be thinking "Oh god, what marvellous weapons we had during the great patriotic war! We had gun shields and recoil springs back then! My grandson / great grandson is so much braver to be fighting in 2024!"

[@thearpox7873]

Granddad, we can't afford heating anymore. Have you considered signing a contract?

[@johnclay2716]

Russia in 2014 drops hundreds of FABs from the sky on Ukrainian positions weekly

[@Ricky-oc4xc]

@@thearpox7873 Sound like a pensioner in UK tbh

[@nikolaideianov5092]

​@@johnclay2716 su 34 that got shot down by ukranain f16 yesterday would like to add that it had a high cost

[@noname-sz4br]

@@nikolaideianov5092 "ukranain f16" sounds wierd

[@richbattaglia5350]

In theory this sounds useful, but looking at the flimsy welding and how the entire chassis moves after the first shot, this looks more like drone bait.

[@oz314]

I'd agree with you if it wasn't for Russias EW jamming systems that cover the entire front line but what's interesting is Russia is now using fibre optic wire guided drones so you cannot jam them, Ukraine is yet to adopt such technology for their drones.

[@AlphaHorst]

"Russias EW jamming systems covering the entire front" except taht that is absolutely not teh cae as we see daily. Russias jammers so far have not prevented strikes even directly on te jammer itself or any vehicle carrying it. Ukraine captured T90s equipped with that system after they hit them with their drones... Russias jamming is at best a 50/50 "fibre optic wire guided drones" just stringing words along does not create meaning. What is a "fibre optic" ? A cable, a VERY faragile capble. So if it is "fibre optic guided" wire is unneded as fibre optic is already a cable. Its like saying "Cable wire" or "wire cable", a wire controlled drone is also called "ATGM" and has been around for decades. Some famous ones are the TOW and MILAN. And lasty, as mentioned above, "fibre optic" cables are VERY fragile. It is literally impossible to steer a drone from the ground using such cables because they would literally fracture into a million pieces the second the dangling wire hist a tree, the ground or a faling leafe. Then there is the fact that there is absolutely no need to use the most expensive kind of wire in the world for sth as low bandwith as a GoPro film and some rudemantary controlls. A normal tin wire could do the job let alone a copper or aluminium one. In short your "Fibre optic wire controlled drone" is a gimmik with limited range and versatility, it also drastically increases the price of each drone for very little benefit. Hence why so far there have been no more than 4 sightings of such drones 3 crashed due to a broken cable... Also ukraine tested a similar drone, or rather still is and the max range of that is 1km, or around 1/10 of the shortest range drone in use by both forces and considering that the fronts are between 1km and 4km appart the useability of such a short range weapon has to be questioned ​@@oz314

[@m16-a2]

@@AlphaHorst "Russias jamming is at best a 50/50" Not true, there has been a significant decrease in Ukrainian drone strikes due to Russian EW equipment.

[@AlphaHorst]

@@m16-a2 so a possible 50% is not significant? In what kinda world do you live?

[@m16-a2]

@@AlphaHorst 50% is significant, yes, but its more than 50%.

[@paulhickie6974]

I think these people who making these guns are the DPR and the LPR from eastern Ukraine.

[@rhetorical1488]

Civilian Militia. exactly

[@Ricky-oc4xc]

Yes, that seems likely, they are more of a milita-style, average Russian soldiers would likely not be allowed to play around like that.

[@bobimarker1]

yes, guy who was shooting at first video definitely slavic..

[@kindlingking]

From Western Russia*, eventually - Central Russia

[@dylancardwell8429]

Look at the amount of propellant gas that gets kicked out the back of the gun as it auto ejects the spent casing. Now imagine you’re a BMP 1 crewman next to that thing in the tiny fully enclosed turret trying to actually fight effectively 👍🏽

[@FredrikLimegård]

In original configuration it had a really crappy autoloader that had a lot of malfunctions - But getting rid of the autoloader didnt fix the gun being inaccurate, having unreliable ammunition and short range 🤣 The 2A28 is propably one of the worst guns ever built.

[@capnstewy55]

This falls under the category of its better to have any artillery than none.

[@aizseeker3622]

Every squads get their own artillery.

[@mattydare]

Only just, eh?

[@Stockfish1511]

They all laugh at russian ideas then when shit hits the fan. They copy it. Remember how they all laughed at russians using cages on their tanks, or when they started using turtle tanks. Or whenthey attached flares to their cruise missiles, or when they put pantsir on the buildings. Its all funny until they realize that russian wild ideas work and they dont care how it looks

[@All4mula]

Rounds down range

[@EdReed-r8n]

They have a lot of artillery.

[@luki188]

its sad to see that both sides are being so crafty in killing each other when they could have had a beer together

[@prytrushennyy_Volkoviy]

Russia doesn't want to be together, it wants everything for itself.

[@MrBashem]

Except one side was supposed to be an advanced war machine that was selling its stuff to other nations.

[@skepotys6760]

You are a fruitcake

[@Atlas531]

Putin would piss in your beer if he could.

[@dimitrireinhart]

first comment that makes some sense

[@SteelGunner76]

It’s incredible how sophisticated the Russian military has become.

[@goiterlanternbase]

Russia is already fighting an post apocalyptic war🤣

[@VonEldrich]

Another sad downplaying video by Ukraine supporter, just like how their media says Russia was using shovel and yet still taking town by town, cities after cities past few months 😂😂. But oh well Ukraine got hundreds of square kilometre of empty land which they are also being pushed out as of now.

[@UltraRealTrueJesus]

yes and they are holding vs 40+ countries supporting Ukraine all by virtually themselves. kinda shows their military is far from a joke.

[@Madchefred]

Emotional Support Gun. Makes the infantry feel like they have fire support but in reality it is a drone and arty magnet regardless of it's emplacement.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

It is where you put the FNGs so the rest of the squad doesn't get a drone.

[@АлексейГордеев-п1н]

Me: Mom, i need artillery Mom: We have artillery at home Artillery at home: "photo of this gun"

[@pacivalmuller9333]

Well it is not artillery

[@Ospray3151]

@@pacivalmuller9333 I think that is the point? 😉

[@pacivalmuller9333]

@@Ospray3151 If something is not artillery and is not intented to be used at as artillery?

[@Ospray3151]

@@pacivalmuller9333 yes its not artillery, that is the whole point of the joke

[@Mal0Imperzia]

An Anti-Tank gun/recoilless rifle isnt even an improvisation of artillery, its a direct fire AT weapon

[@dexexmachinatu4151]

Ah yes, the discount SPG-9

[@tranquoccuong890-its-orge]

i dont even watch the video, just came here to say the same thing this is basically an SPG-9 towed on wheels

[@prvt.harumi6821]

To be honest , if it works it works

[@АлексейГордеев-п1н]

Muskets work too.

[@joostdriesens3984]

It doesn't work.

[@prvt.harumi6821]

@@АлексейГордеев-п1н not against people with most their body coverd in body armor

[@prvt.harumi6821]

@@joostdriesens3984 apparently it does

[@alexdemoya2119]

In the modern drone heavy battlefield a short range small caliber cannon like this is basically a way to attract the robot that will lead to your early demise. It doesn't 'work', its a stopgap measure done by an increasingly desperate dying wannabe empire.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

the turret ring tripod looks like a shade turret from Halo CE

[@orchidahussuhadihcro9862]

It's odd someone would say that. This game is getting quite old now.

[@16il]

After all russia has more in common with the Covenant than you would think…

[@afghyddvhuyrsxcn3296]

that ringing noise you hear just after the gun is fired will be heard in the ears of the soilder that fired it for the rest of his life

[@Mal0Imperzia]

The rebirth of the AT gun is here boys!

[@grdgdfg]

its genious when you can reuse 30% of your tank guns as stationary AT you got 30% more guns

[@somerandofilipino6957]

This is the most reliablitiy I've seen in a BMP cannon, that's for sure.

[@piotrd.4850]

With semi-auto loader gone - why not?

[@EdReed-r8n]

What do you know about anything?

[@kawaiiarchive357]

As a species we're evolving backwards yet forwards.

[@_--Reaper--_]

WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones

[@Realkeepa-et9vo]

This feels like a good idea, making a more cost effective variant that brings alot of firepower paired with low visibility and sound emissions. I think probably the next step will be to upgrade it to a self propelled gun for more manuverability and perhaps some armor to protect against shrapnell and small caliber rifles

[@jaydee2072]

They're down to the he scraps of an army and they're ripping weapons off of defunct equipment to make ineffective replacements that in now way resemble the original platform the weapon was supposed to be used in and it's a GOOD idea? Clown

[@АлексейГордеев-п1н]

Russia already done it. It's called "BMP-1".

[@SrCoxas]

@@АлексейГордеев-п1н and they took it out of the BMP for a reason, probably because those old steel trucks are not reliable anymore for their original purpose

[@АлексейГордеев-п1н]

@@SrCoxas no. There is another reason. Maybe be Russians haven't (not enough) good cannon (or ammo for it) and use all that they have.

[@FredrikLimegård]

That "gun" is infamous for being inaccurate, having unreliable ammunition and having short range. Even a ordinary underslung grenade launcher would be better than that thing.

[@CapnDan57]

Tanks again, Matt! These guys are just trying to keep busy, so they don't get sent up front. Though it is a way to use up old ammo.

[@toolthoughts]

gotta love the one finger hearing protection

[@johnsmith-jq1uc]

sir, i believe it is low recoil rather than recoilless.

[@TheArmourersBench]

Yes, I should have said low pressure or low recoil. My mistake. Thanks for watching!

[@johnsmith-jq1uc]

@@TheArmourersBenchnp, love the vids. far better than any of us commenters could ever make.

[@TheArmourersBench]

@@johnsmith-jq1uc thank you, appreciate you watching!!

[@28282222]

500 yard range. That’s definetly in range of ww2 rifle rounds like .308 and 7.62x51 and I’m thinking even assault rifles like 5.56 and 7.62 x 39?

[@monkeychief-nk7se]

yes

[@amhuman5138]

Pushing it for intermediates, but absolutely for full power cartridges.

[@billm2078]

308 and 7.62x51 are one in the same and post WW2.

[@monkeychief-nk7se]

@@billm2078 wrong , they are not the same. like .223 and 556x45 its not the same. Chamber might explode when using wrong amo

[@billm2078]

@@monkeychief-nk7se OK you know more than the experts, and neither were WW2 cartridges.

[@chavezchavo]

Smart move firing that gun without proper hearing protection.

[@WhoThisMonkey]

"Here is your tank comrade!" "This is just the main gun?" "You must take the rest from your fallen comrades!"

[@grzyb11]

idk mount it to a destroyed t90 or something, you dont even have to take the turret off, its already in space

[@Stockfish1511]

@@grzyb11 God people are fkn stupid on the internet. This is not a gun tom assault enemy cities. It can be very effective on trenchfire at close range. Its all gun and games until you realize bmp1 gun is spamming fire on you from 2 km while you have nothing to hit back. On field conditions if the bmp is completely destroyed, you pull the gun out and still use it as a firepower while your enemy has nothing. Its pure genius and for anyone who understands combat, those little things matter alot on the battlefield. Lets say your bmp is taken out, you pull it out and send it for repair. It can take days to weeks before it returns back to combat. Instead you pull out the gun and start using it on the spot and send the bmp to rear and instead of just sitting and waiting around you fire hundreds of shells a day. Repeat this proccess many times on thousands of kms front and you suddenly have 1000-2000 more artillery pieces that the enemy which matters alot.

[@_--Reaper--_]

They gotta run around in it like the Flintmobile

[@EdReed-r8n]

Try not to act so gay.

[@stirfrywok2927]

I loved the attention to detail those guys with the trailer mounted 'solution', it was really well thought out. The turret ring and lack of any kind of cover makes it look like a potential death trap if they came under fire. Fascinating, though

[@Tonyx.yt.]

this thing is supposed to be hide inside a treeline or in the bushes

[@nortyfiner]

To my eyes, it seems like they're trying to fill the same niche as the WW1 French 75 or WW2 pack howitzers. A light field gun or infantry gun with better mobility and use in direct low-angle fire than larger howitzers.

[@АлексейГордеев-п1н]

For this task they must have mortar like 2B9.

[@weronikazalewska2098]

Interesting you say that as I always thought something like this in world war one could have made a huge difference in the attack (and when tanks got reliable they did make a huge difference)

[@Squee7e]

​@weronikazalewska2098 this contraption wouldn't have been of any value during WW1 because the battlefield was already saturated by artillery of much bigger caliber. The BMP-1 in working order would've been a game changer though 😂

[@FredrikLimegård]

That "gun" is infamous for being inaccurate, having unreliable ammunition and having short range. But it actually works better without the autoloader 😂

[@tranquoccuong890-its-orge]

the 2A28 low recoil gun's direct parent, the SPG-9 recoilless gun, already filled that niché, even in the same 73mm caliber, with the added benefit of being man-portable (instead of having be towed around)

[@foobar201]

Gopnik on the front, steals the turret of a damaged bmp, tires from a car and a tractor.

[@mr.pavone9719]

3:25 I was not expecting that. Pulling the towing carriage away is pretty clever.

[@Alte.Kameraden]

0:43 noticed the gun knocks itself around, without inputs from the gunner. So it doesn't right itself back where it was after it fires much of the time. This is a serious issue meaning it isn't a stable gun platform. Basically sometimes after it fires the gun is aiming lower, or higher than it's pre-firing position. Most of the time you see the gunner adjusting it's aim he's actually placing it back on target, not making corrections because they missed.

[@0thPAg]

I've heard people complain the gun is somewhat..inaccurate.

[@FredrikLimegård]

The 2A28 is infamous for lack of precision, unreliable ammunition and short range 😂

[@donhansen5677]

That's actually very smart of them.

[@MysteryMycology]

I like how the chumps wanted to move it, tried to move it, can't move it, gave up, pretended they want it there.

[@Great_Lakes_Discus]

I seen that too😂

[@S7yx0]

Definitely !

[@custooooom]

00:41 lol it took that guy three shots to realize that his eardrums are toast 🤣😂

[@De_Wit]

Well, at least the quartermaster is not going to shout at you if you abandon it in a pinch.

[@evilwelshman]

What I'm unclear about is why use them dismounted, as opposed to keeping them mounted on vehicular platforms. There should be plenty of flatbed or pickup trucks that could be repurposed for this purpose.

[@MrRatlud]

With so many drones - something large is difficult to hide. You need something small to put in the tree line and leave there. It is not meant to be moved or relocated much. It is super cheep to push 1 or 2 in each tree line and hide them. It is not needed to be accurate - it just needs to create some explosion and dust in the direction of the enemy. They don't know what is shooting at them and if sane will keep down and away. In war you need to play with all the toys you can get your hands on. What is advertised for the public and what is actually on the front are 2 very different realities.

[@evilwelshman]

@@MrRatlud So, from that thinking, it's for defensive, open field use rather than urban combat, as speculated in the video? If so, it would make sense to dig them into the ground a bit; better concealment and would help mitigate some of the recoil.

[@d3nza482]

@@MrRatlud Sure, sure... which is why they're mounting them on FUCKING TRAILERS TO BE HAULED BEHIND TRUCKS. Much easier to hide that way, particularly the truck. But yeah... it is cheaper. Not that a proper military should worry about economy of "requisitioned" civilian vehicles... Particularly the one that's invading a foreign country - as this is a tactic of DESPERATE DEFENSE. It is smekalka. Which, in its essence, is cargo cult engineering. In this case it is also cargo cult military tactics. Ritualistic actions by primitive people, pursuing what is clearly irrational means to everyone else - in order to achieve some kind of rational ends. Which is what it comes to when you start believing the propaganda that you're fighting The Great Patriotic War 2.0. Soldiers start pretend playing a defensive war - while invading.

[@MrRatlud]

@@d3nza482 Im not sure why my comment has offended your feelings. This has been done bay any army in any war in human history. Do you think Roman legions have not improvised to seek any possible small advantage? Or the US is Vietnam was not mounting shit on both tanks and IFVs to give them a bit more protection. Just think real and push aside the emotion.

[@communist754]

​@@d3nza482Jeez, salty much? It's just battlefield modifications bro, everyone does them, chill. Ukrainians are doing exactly the same thing.

[@MM22966]

If it was recoilless, it would have a massive back-blast. That is a defining feature of recoilless rifles/guns. For that matter, it wouldn't need spades to CATCH the recoil if it was recoilless. Thank you for the data, though!

[@TheCrapOnYourStrapOn]

It’s technically a low pressure gun.

[@TheArmourersBench]

True, no Venturi etc but the lower propellant charge and the allowance of some recoil puts it in a similar class as the SPG-9 in practical terms.

[@TheArmourersBench]

@TheCrapOnYourStrapOn yes, absolutely, what I should have said haha.

[@TheCrapOnYourStrapOn]

@@TheArmourersBench they both make that eerie whistle as the round flies down range too

[@ToolinAroundTools]

It does appear to eject a counter mass out of the back, much like a RR.

[@FredrikLimegård]

That 2A28 gun is infamous for its lack of precision, unreliable ammunition and short range. Sweden actually bought 433 BMP-1 and planned to use about 350 of them, the rest was supposed to be cannibalised for spare parts. But the 2A28 gun and the whole vehicle was found to so bad that Sweden sold all of the BMP´s to Czech Republic after 10 years, which in turn sold them to Iraq. These Mad Max versions will only become fodder for the drones 😂

[@Xeno_of_Luyten]

This regresses further down the mad max timeline. All they have are gun carriages pulled by small tractors because there isn't enough oil for muscle cars or Volkswagen beetles XDD

[@stevenrowlandson9650]

Improvise, adapt and overcome in action! Well done guys.

[@rubenskiii]

It's probably the idea of actually having some sort of Artillery that gives the soldiers more peace of mind. I am sure they have a function but as you pointed out, their range and accuracy compared to their size and lack of mobility makes it so that many, many things can touch these pieces but they can't reach back... If they mounted these things on verhicles like pick-ups they might have something that can apply quick firing support from close range.

[@guntera3845]

Yeah I wonder if someone has tried to make an armored version of that. That sounds like a really good idea.

[@alicelund147]

They took them from vehicles, they where on vehicles originally.

[@weronikazalewska2098]

They would be far more effective in defence I think but you are right-with some sort of transport their use as fire support could be as useful as mortars, or even more so in that they can do direct fire on armoured vehicles reliably. Tow it behind an APC/IFV or other troop carriers and while the infantry gets out to attack you can use it to suppress strong points.

[@copter2000]

Maybe they should mount this on a tank, also have some extra space for troops carrying in the back. Wait a minute...

[@SrCoxas]

@@alicelund147 a pickup truck has way more speed and versatility than an old BMP, that's the point

[@billyteflon1322]

I can say, stuff like this tends to make a difference. I've worked with a unit like this. If you need to bring an ungodly amount of Dakka on a target, you want Sîlah Grand around. The most impressive weapon I've seen was an old ack ack gun mounted on a flatbed.

[@mattyallen3396]

Screams desperation to me

[@UltraRealTrueJesus]

the exact same desperation UAF had when it sourced bulgarian ww2 weapons and shells? of course.

[@EdReed-r8n]

You're literally retarded

[@I_Stole_A_BTR-80]

The russians saw the recoil of the T-12 and said "this, but on a smaller platform"

[@dillonhillier]

As a former infantry grunt and now weldor/fabricator, I love this shit.

[@poptartmcjelly7054]

2:30 that's literally the turret but with the metal around the gun cut off

[@UltraRealTrueJesus]

you surely mean the gunshield. but yes.

[@mach1ine]

Definitely better than throwing rocks.

[@RandomGuy9]

But only if that is the only other option. And in that case I would give up. The video of the gun is old and was never seen again. They probably scrapped it from a disabled BMP. But I don't see much use for it.

[@loafoffloof3420]

lead are still rocks, the ones in casings are just more refined rocks humans are still throwing rocks at each other since the dawn of time, but faster

[@MultiDam23]

@RandomGuy9 obviously in this case the soldiers are just messing around with an old gun somewhere in Russia, but on serious case if I would be in Ukraine preparing to assault a fortified position and had beside me a bmp that was struck by a mine I would take of that gun and use it if not anything else for suppressing enemy fire. It is better to have bad artillery than no artillery.

[@hoilst265]

Man, this is some crazy stuff we're seeing from this crazy Yemeni- wait. What's that? This is RUSSIA? This country has a space program, right?

[@sumtingwong2138]

It's all about bringing the most amount of firepower to the front at the lowest cost. In fact, democratising your innovation among your soldiers is a great way to find new tactics. This weird BMP cannon thing probably won't be widely used but it's still good to give it a try in combat and see how well it works.

[@copter2000]

@@sumtingwong2138 Will you also say this if US did this during Gulf War? Unmounting their Bushmaster, and use them as infantry auto cannon?

[@sumtingwong2138]

@@copter2000 Probably not since the Gulf War wasn't an attritional war like the war in Ukraine is, but in the event of ground war involving the US against an equal foe, this sort of idea (if approved by command) would naturally be tested.

[@Ricky-oc4xc]

Russia has proven to be very innovative, more so than Ukraine and NATO, which is fortunate for Russia given how bad start they had..

[@hoilst265]

@@sumtingwong2138 The fact you used the word "democratising" in relation to something Russian is hilarious.

[@-yeme-]

4:52 its not just the tyres that are different, the gun mantlets are different too, possibly off different vehicles?

[@wolfdima]

This is for sure the embodiment of "improvize, adapt, overcome"

[@onenote6619]

Presumably they have a good supply of guns and ammo from broken-down or blown-up BMPs. And likely very little supply of ammo for the guns they are supposed to have.

[@domaxltv]

What guns are they supposed to have?

[@T.McGarry]

PT boat crews in the Pacific theater salvaged 37mm auto cannons out of P-39 Airacobras, then fabricated suitable mounts. They were perfect for busting motorized supply barges in use by the Japanese.

[@onenote6619]

@@domaxltv Dunno. You tell me.

[@Theorimlig]

@@T.McGarry An autocannon of any caliber would probably be much better than these things.

[@SgtBeltfed]

Really, there' shouldn't be that much suitable 2A28 ammo laying around, it's been out of production for a while, and there's been a bunch of fruitless programs to regun the BMP-1's.

[@comentedonakeyboard]

The Arsenal of a "Superpower"

[@johannuys7914]

Seems the West still learned nothing about the Russians...

[@shellshockedgerman3947]

Tbh, this is literally just every army rich or poor. People make fun of armies strapping random shit into a vehicle, but when the Germans did it, it was a marvel of engineering lol.

[@comentedonakeyboard]

@@shellshockedgerman3947 true, however i think the Germans where not realy winning the war, to put it mildly.

[@EdReed-r8n]

You're literally retarded

[@pinkyfull]

Video of Russians with the grom: Zero hearing protection Video of Ukrainians firing swedish recoilless rifle: everyone is wearing hearing protection. On the list of dumbest things to do to your hearing, not wearing hearing protection when firing recoilless rifles, or any cannon for that matter, is right up there. They are incredibly loud.

[@ssmith4013]

When I was in ROTC in the Eighties, they told us this was extremely inaccurate, and as long as you were a moving target, it was useless. It is a rocket assist "Gun" with a high arc, so it was more worry to low flying helicopters.

[@WhatIsLove170]

That one where they just took the turret and had the gunner sit in the middle makes me so nervous watching lol. So close to it, if that thing dings when it recoils, its gonna hurt bad.

[@darthtrudeau4907]

This is the military NATO should be fearing? 😂

[@Chiller11]

I suppose the Russians are taking these from mothballed or damaged vehicles that are too far gone to recondition.

[@JeffGordon-ph4vz]

Most likely and everyone freaking out in the comments saying this shows the Russians lack of resources blah blah blah…. It’s literally just reusing weapons systems and putting them to use that weren’t going to be used anywhere else. No one said this is going to be used in combat. It’s just an experiment with recycled parts like chill tf out. 😅

[@FacitOmniaVoluntas.]

There are still people who think Russia is a superpower.

[@doglover6954]

There are still people who think america is a superpower.

[@FacitOmniaVoluntas.]

@@doglover6954 Pipe down, California’s economy alone is twice the size of Russia’s and you couldn’t even get up in the morning without America. We own you.

[@grzyb11]

@@doglover6954it will sure as fuck send you into outer space if you try to invade it

[@Camcolito]

They are winning against the US, Europe, and their Ukrainian drones, I'd say that comfortably qualifies.

[@RobertGroves2525]

Thanks, really enjoyed the video!

[@TheArmourersBench]

Thank you for watching!

[@Sun-Tzu-]

I mean these were designed alongside the SPG-9 recoiless rifle, so this isn't a surprise at all, both use 73mm low pressure shells. Also it's the 2B9 "Vasilek", it means "cornflower".

[@ScreamingReelsTV]

They aren't even wearing boots. Something tells me these are conscripts being trained on some sort of cobbled together rig because the real equipment is all on the front lines.

[@domaxltv]

Most soldiers love to ditch their combat boots at the earliest opportunity because the words "comfort" and "combat boots" do not go hand in hand. And these guys are messing around at some depot further away from the lines, why would they wear them?

[@selectionn]

boots are western propaganda, Adidas is all you need, clearly.

[@xsuuuuuuuu]

we don't need boots, we fight in adidas sneakers and with a shovel

[@WimsicleStranger]

@@domaxltv That's the most russian BS I've ever heard. How can russia pretend to be a first-world country if it can't even make decent boots?

[@stevendeamon]

bro thats some mad max shit right there...

[@peterstadlmaier3107]

That type with the cut-off cupola is just a deathtrap. It doesn't even have sights and the ring prevents the gunner from leaving the gun when shit hits the fan.

[@rickandbrandonshow]

what amazes me is even tho alot of these weapons are older then our grandparents they were so well made and useful that to this day they still have a place on the battlefield. Might not be as cool or flashy but they still do their jobs and do them well. You will always need to be about to throw more boom then your opponent in war

[@itsericzhou]

I mean may as well put these guns to use. Bmp1s have been “upgraded” to the AM standard which gives them the turret of the btr82a. This leaves a bunch of bmp1 turrets ripe for the picking

[@Tsirkon]

I absolutely love how drastically different the comments would be if it was a Ukrainian who did it "Oh my gosh, brilliant! So smart!"

[@UltraRealTrueJesus]

russian cope cage- joke. IDF does the same- heroes. UAF does the same- heroes. clearly cope cages work and aren't a joke... otherwise advanced militaries wouldn't be using russian jokes as counter warfare units. a common joke among Ukies.

[@johnmccain3877]

2nd army in the world but from which direction?!

[@jaredfredericks1460]

Is the Russian military doing this? or is this the breakaway militias doing this?

[@nobodyherepal3292]

Russian military

[@wallback1851]

​@@nobodyherepal3292 source: trust me bro

[@nobodyherepal3292]

@@wallback1851 theyres literally no more separatist militas left. They’ve been absorbed into the Russian military since early 2023

[@heerosanosyuy1173]

😂 Bringing it back old-school with that set-up! Watch out!

[@drbichat5229]

In his memoir, Alexandr Pokhryshkin describes mechanics of his unit making anti- aircraft guns by mounting salvaged machine guns on airplane elevators from destroyed planes

[@terrified057t4]

Welcome back Type 94 75mm mountain gun, this time was born as a 2A28 73mm low-pressure gun XD

[@davidtaliaferro]

NATO is laughing it's ass off.

[@clydeosterhout1221]

I’m all for ingenuity, but an infantry support weapon that is short ranged, inaccurate, slow to deploy and completely unprotected isn’t something I’d want to be stuck with. It reeks of desperation.

[@taylor-t1y]

And you reek of stale alcohol and sour defeat.

[@_--Reaper--_]

no

[@nicholasroach3394]

Reminds me of the dad’s army scene with Captain Mainwearing showing off his new invention to the Colonel 😂

[@geerid]

Like wtf!?! They get back to days of ww2. "We have carrier there Ivan, bmp" "No Boris, just distmantle it and take the gun, let's find a horse to drag it"

[@Mag_Aoidh]

That’s some Mad Max stuff there.

[@jamesbogart3334]

Is this normal for a global superpower?

[@sixgunsymphony7408]

They could have just left them mounted on their BMP-1

[@KSmithwick1989]

It could be due to a portion of their BMP-1 stock not being refurbishable. So they re-appropriated the guns as towed infantry support.

[@rudolfthecat1176]

These are taking from BMP's in depots that can't be restored or from ones damaged on the frontlines.

[@onenote6619]

Probably got them from busted BMPs.

[@iplaygames8090]

it would seem they are taken from destroyed BMPs

[@AtomickPixel]

If I'm not mistaken, Russia had replaced all bmp 1's with bmp 2's some time ago. This must be militia? They all are either unused guns from bmp1's, upgraded with bmp2 turrets (basically bmp2) or captured equipment. or they converted bmps to recovery vehicles or something.

[@dauzlee2827]

I've seen this some months ago and only once. I dont think they would actively use that in the front, the gun is known for being inaccurate even as a AFV armaments plus they still have large numbers of RPGs, SPG-9 and etc others that are way more effective than this.

[@hell_march6652]

Yeah but get enough of them and you get accuracy through volume of fire.

[@mezzanoon]

"Your hearing damage is not service related"

[@patvanquish4586]

So the latest weapon is an undergunned, unarmoured, unmotorised tank with limited mobility. Absolute winner.