Russia’s army is learning - here’s why it should worry the West | Defence in Depth

There is a bit of a myth about Russia’s army in Ukraine. That Moscow’s soldiers are inexperienced, ramshackle troops sent into hopeless charges at well-defended positions at the behest of inexperienced and brutal commanders. They have little tactical sense and even less strategic vision.
Of course, some of that is true - the Russians do use ‘meatgrinder’ assaults, armoured columns often do run into trouble in Ukrainian minefields (with pyrotechnic results) and Russia frequently relies on troops with insufficient training and poor kit.
Even today, huge numbers of armoured vehicles and tanks are being lost as Russian forces attempt to advance and it’s a live question how long such losses can be borne.
But the Russians aren’t stupid, and the army does learn, albeit slowly.
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[@PaulV.]

The Telegraph basically: Ok, lets debunk the myth we were creating for 2 years ourselves.

[@joek600]

Ukraine is losing despite Putin being dead twice, run out of missiles and the Russian army using washing machine chips and shovels. I mean if the Ukrainian Elves are losing so badly against such incompetent and stupid Orcs, then all than bazillions were for nothing?

[@chopstixsix802]

Yup 😂😂😂

[@user-yy1rs3df3q]

This and other outlets pretending they were not complicit in the hubris we are seeing from the collective West.

[@JAnx01]

rUsSiA iS lOsInG tHe WaAaRrR

[@elzorro7of9]

Its nuts. They changed their tune and expected it to not be noticed lol.

[@thepilgrimofinfinity4830]

Whaaaaaat!? Russians aren't fighting with shovels!?

[@maryanchabursky9148]

Whaaaaat!? No one ever said that!?

[@GG-py9fe]

WHAT!? RUSSIA ISN'T RUNNING HEAD FIRST TOWARDS UKRAINE FORTIFICATION?? WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS!??

[@maryanchabursky9148]

@@GG-py9fe except for all the times that they are (there are years of footage of this at this point)

[@horoshkoaleksandr273]

spamming clown alert!!!

[@angelopueyygarcia43]

@@maryanchabursky9148 delusional

[@neilnelson7603]

So, the "Russian bots" were right after all? Lmao

[@SewTubular]

It meant that they weren't bots at all, but actual people with their own opinions. Only idiots thought they were bots. 🤪

[@neilnelson7603]

@@SewTubular Yah. Thats why i put the word in qoutes. Bots are usually a code word for comment i dont like.

[@rowdy8814]

@@SewTubular brainrot

[@clavichord]

I don't believe the mainstream narrative... therefore I am an evil putinista bot from somewhere in a call centre in siberia

[@andrewdopple6946]

@@rowdy8814 wow how compelling and insightful.

[@giantbear829]

Telegraph goes 180 degrees. What a toilet of a newspaper 🗞️

[@oogie493]

The funniest part is, they just want Americans to support ukraine even more lmao. Watch the last minute

[@maxinabo]

Give me 1 name that is unbiased and really independent… the entire western mass media is corrupt and filthy

[@yebemen]

only idiots do not change opinion

[@Hexiad]

The myth he refers to is the one invented by the Telegraph itself.

[@user-sk9fc5xl5n]

It was invented by owners of Telegraph, who also by pure coincidence happen to own BBC, CNN, CBC, etc

[@TheBelrick]

@@user-sk9fc5xl5n oh vey! say its not true, that the lied to us in order to escalate the violence among us?.

[@zjpdarkblaze]

@@user-sk9fc5xl5n basically they made a clown out of themselves.

[@NihilistAlien]

​@zjpdarkblaze not as much as vladolf and his two years three day war

[@ElTIBURON826]

No, its just so that the russians are as said learning every day just like the ukrainians and are not anymore the stupid army they were at the beginning.

[@novemberalpha6023]

Actual Headline: The Telegraph is learning the truth

[@michaelcoletta4547]

Telling... they've known for awhile now

[@tobiltok2536]

Bravo... 👏👏

[@sibusisobrian5038]

🤣

[@Tom-eu2jj]

The 'tail' has wagged the dog for so long, they 'learning' what everyone has already known years ago.😂

[@davout5775]

What truth? That the Russians are inefficient?

[@healthguy79]

Russia has a military strategy. Ukraine has a media strategy.

What exactly is Russians military strategy?

[@bambarbiyakirgudu]

Мясные штурмы aka бабы ещё нарожают.

[@seanl7856]

Right now, winning.

[@ticktockbam]

How does the first reply to this comment not have an @ for his account? I can't reply to him without that lol

[@enrico4818]

@@seanl7856 so far didint work pretty well, only in the last 6 monththey got the upper hand over ukraine forces lol

[@thematic3893]

The Telegraph is absolutely hilarious. Creates a witch then calls a witch-hunt! 😂

[@Abdul1475]

a man has to make a living 😅

[@petergreen5337]

❤Precisely

[@martinmandumbwa448]

Exactly.. He showed it in the closing statement...

[@elzorro7of9]

Isn't this from the newspaper that said Russia was running out of ammo, tanks, men, etc...

[@bvanstratum]

They were low… they are no longer low… that’s how time works.

[@highvoltagee]

Dictators helped. Democracies didn't.

[@blockx8607]

North Korea have provided ammo and they are low on tanks, that's true.

[@Contractor48]

⁠@@bvanstratumthey were not low. They always had more ammo than Ukrainians

[@CallSign_Raven]

Running low does not mean ran out nor does it mean they can't resupply lmao

[@tedkaczynski-sw4qk]

imagine 31 countries combine failed to outproduce a single country which deemed only to be a gas station.

[@user-fr2xu9io3v]

Yep, and one of those countries has the military budget bigger than all armies around the globe combined😁

[@TheRealIdiotIsntHere]

We haven't started yet 😂

[@jmcitr382]

The gas station is struggling to support its military operation, while the 31 countries just take out a small bit of their government budget to aid Ukraine, thats the difference

[@IHighscoredYourGirl]

I heard sanctions are working

[@oussefel3220]

@@jmcitr382 Small bit yeah , let's forget that that's a lie , and do the math , 31 x small bit vs 1 big bit .. that is still embarassing dude 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@free_kashmir_hawaii_america]

Don't worry dude, they already ran out of ammo 2 years ago, UK's intel told me about it.

[@ArrosticiniVore]

MI6

[@Alexzan220]

Well UK has James Bond, what's Russia gonna do against "him"

[@bugsywugsy5052]

Zelensky is about to add the telegraph to the enemy of Ukraine blacklist 😂😂

[@14031993]

telegraph

[@petergreen5337]

❤Exactly

[@mesfinasfaw2708]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Ballardian]

So in other words, we believed our own propaganda bullshit (often propagated by this very channel / paper).

[@diodotos]

your propaganda is the ruzzian one

[@alfredneuman6911]

The main propaganda bullshit is that Russia invaded "in self defence". Russia, with 6000 nukes, Ukraine with 0.

[@dornierdo2172]

​@@diodotosYou are supporting fascists.

[@SouvenTudu]

Yes

[@user-th4ri8dt9s]

The same people who claim Russia is a super power and is our Number one enemy compared to China are the same people who believe the Russian army is no match 😂😂

[@Sam-ht3ye]

The telegraph: ok guys now that everyone’s noticing we’ve been lying for 2 years let’s make a video “debunking” the myths we’ve created to keep this war going

[@braxxian]

Only a fool would ever believe the MSM to be begin with.

[@mopbot40k99]

NATO expanded and Russian still doesn’t fully control it’s annexed territories

[@MusehanaH]

....in a nutshell

[@braxxian]

Only fools ever believed the MSM in the first place. Those of us who know a bit of history and can think for ourselves knew how this was all going to end a long time ago.

[@JonathanRootD]

Russia is keeping the war going and the Wests slow response to military buildup is perpetuating it.

[@17sapun]

Russia is teaching, not learning

[@jenniferkeates]

yes, teaching how not to conduct an offensive

[@willl7780]

@@jenniferkeates how was that summer offensive ? shhhhhhhh

[@funkydown]

russia has always been teaching that it exists for too long

[@hawkarlatif9470]

the title must be: Telegraph stopped lying!

[@letranger6750]

@hawkarlatif9470: But for how long?..........old habits.........

[@ChuckPalomo]

Nah, they just decided to add a bit of truth to the lies. Look how every single backhanded compliment is made grudgingly and full of caveats. It's like they want to us to fear RU while still viewing them as "less" than us.

[@nvmffs]

The cognitive dissonance of the West is staggering . Constantly portraying Russia as weak and at the same time constantly fearmongering about how Russia would continue west and eventually conquer the world unless it's stopped now.

[@TommyTipex]

Good old doublethink. Journos are very good at that sort of thing.

[@DedHobbit]

It's called bipolar disorder.

[@ayodeleajayi7481]

​@@DedHobbit😂😂😂😂

[@user-sn1tt6tw8w]

Гомосексуалисты западные, что с них взять ...

[@nextentrepreneur9288]

For real, they can’t even take Kyiv, how are they gonna take the Baltic states and the whole of Europe?

[@johnrr8854]

“Russians will go against Putin, Putin dying of cancer, Russia has no more missiles, Russian eeconomy is collapsing (but surpassed Germany as the 5th largest), Crimea will be Ukraine again, Ukraine iscwinning since day one”-

[@Idriso5]

Surpassed Germany because they producing a lot stuff for war, if Germany was in the same war as Russia it would have 3rd largest economy in the world.

[@DipakPant-bo6ei]

Russophobia is a pyscho-pathological condition in which the sufferer believes that Russia is about to collapse due to its inferiority and, at the same time, Russia is powerful and dangerous ready to conquer the world.

[@reis1185]

Kinda ironic when the game changers are changing the game. Telegraph is nothing but an Anglo-Saxon mouthpiece

[@alexanderivkin7086]

USRAEL MOUTHPIECE , they are anti anglosaxon and anti white.

[@slayermate07]

So in other words these two years, the telegraph has been the western equivalent of the former soviet Pravda and now we finally entered the glasnost era ?

[@pashapasovski5860]

Soviet Pravda is amateur compared to entire MSM in English

[@park1776]

the next step is perestroika

[@prilep5]

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson

[@bill-nn1vp]

lol

[@Booz2010]

Never Say NEVER 😎 Justin Bieber

[@GE-ve5qq]

and its very true..........

[@Av-vd3wk]

That quote isn’t really relevant to this situation…

[@keplermission4947]

Britain is toast

[@Shik0njuul934]

Bro is swearing and looks so stressed 😂😂😂😂 it’s as if he didn’t want to tell the truth for a whole year 😂

[@Del-Canada]

He's quoting someone when he swears.

[@swollendoggo2529]

*Ukraine is not losing, it's already lost, they're simply losing even more.*

[@wenterinfaer1656]

So Russia's winning, son? Built skyscrapers out of coffins, lost majority of its armour, can't protect frontline regions from constant shelling, failed every invasion goal, saw mass exodus of people, let NATO before St. Petersburg. Ruzzia has won, son

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

Whatever archair general.

[@gazrayt]

They are not loosing, but every day they advance in reverse.

[@slavUKR]

blue arch ? ​@@Nathan-ry3yu

[@enzocarneiro6748]

@@gazraytthey’re winning in opposite

[@GhettoDefendant]

Those Russian tactical shovels are devastating!

[@letranger6750]

@GhettoDefendant: Imagine those "tactical shovels" with washing-machines' chips inside handle!

[@thurinaradan7135]

Wait...the people who invented the laser, won the space race and built ten space stations aren't complete morons? No way!

[@alanspirand880]

Another idiot thinking USSR was just Russia. Learn at least something out of history before trying to look smart in the comments.

[@hha732]

Einstein wasn't russian.

[@GoodyTS]

Most of their achievements belonged to Ukraine when they were part of the USSR.

[@ratrakksstar4420]

​@@GoodyTScope harder

[@cuicuiz]

@@GoodyTS So Ukraine is a space and military power after the Soviet era?

[@dimsum947]

I remember a video that Starsky made mocking the lancet, saying how bad quality and cheap it was. I guess he's not laughing now

[@AceChina]

That channel seems like pure bias propaganda.

[@9and7]

THen he's an idiot.

[@avisekbasu4603]

​@@AceChinawestern world russia used iran weapons, which was 90 percent intercept and destroy by Israeli defence force. If russia used this poor technology then ukraine army in moscow border. Stop this childish propaganda.

[@azariahchhangte6872]

@@avisekbasu4603 , at over $ 1 Billion per night for decoys

[@user-fp3cf5vs7m]

1600-video defeat is hardly a laughing matter.

[@hightime1867]

Russians are experienced talented strategist warriors..that is why they liberated germany in ww2..the whole of europe..😂

[@simonlaw9234]

Russians can endure. Russians can improvise and adapt. 1812.1943. 2014. Europe's last independent nation will survive.

[@Bytheemperor]

U know... Ukrainians call russians "orks"... and yes they are. U know? Orks do adapt... a lot... and win :v

[@spindle7397]

@@Bytheemperorbetter to be an ork than dust

[@Bytheemperor]

@@spindle7397 Orks were meant to fight and win, sir :v

[@jimmycrack-corn9872]

I read in the Telegraph endlessly in 2022 that the sanctions would collapse the Russian economy within months, then it was within a year then it wasn’t at all. I read in the Telegraph endlessly in 2022 that Russia was running out of missiles, then it was tanks and then it was computer chips. I read endlessly in the Telegraph in 2022 and until recently that the Russians were losing hundreds of thousands of men reduced to and were relying on badly trained convicts to be used in hopeless mass infantry attacks. Yet Mariupol fell, Bakhmut fell, Lyzichan fell and now Avdayaka fell. I read endlessly in the Telegraph about our wonderful game changing weapons and how the Russian’s had useless old kit. Yet it’s the west sending near obsolete F16s to face the enormous Russian missile air defence and air force. We in the UK have just 40 working tanks and 60 fighter planes and Cameron is talking about sending our troops to Ukraine with the French. The peace deal of 2022 should have been signed with a huge sigh of relief. Now Ukraine is done and hundreds of thousands of its soldiers dead or wounded, the country smashed and no longer a democracy. Zelensky lies about there being just 31,000 dead, while demanding more Patriot Systems that exist in the whole world to defend against hypersonic Russian missiles that nothing can shoot down. He says they need a further 500,000 young men to fight. The UK by fighting a war with a peer competitor in 1914 brought an end to our hegemony, despite winning. Losing in Ukraine which NATO surely will is going to end US hegemony. Only now is it beginning to dawn on the Telegraph that Russia is even winning.

[@tomasescalante2987]

Spot on!

[@TejoDiaz-lu5kj]

100%

[@bulosqoqish1970]

Absolutely, precisely correct. The Telegraph is just another sorry example of the kinds of sneering, arrogant Western propaganda outlets that airily dismissed Russia's chances of winning. The Telegraph and the rest of the pro-Ukraine propagandists systematically lied about the war right from the start -- claiming (for example) that "Russia will run out of missiles no later than end of summer 2022" (I remember that one like it was yesterday) and these agitprop peddlers are still at it, even though EVERY ONE of their claims has been debunked in the time since the war began. We are now, largely due to hubris and stupefying arrogance on the part of the West (particularly "leaders" whose names should live in infamy, e.g. Boris Johnson and Victoria Nuland), in the very dangerous position of EITHER allowing Ukraine to be defeated and at least partially over-run by the Russians... OR committing NATO troops directly to fight the Russian Army in Ukraine. The latter case carries with it a terrifyingly real possibility of rapid escalation to the tactical or even strategic nuclear level. And all because we were lied to by the likes of the Telegraph (as well as by Western political leaders). History will not be kind to these idiots... that is, if there even IS a history, past the next couple of years.

[@windsong3wong828]

Well said ….🍷

[@RolandStenutz]

Russia lost in 2014 when Ukrainians decided that they definitely didn't want to be Russians . Now Ukraine has to win - which is more of a challenge. Russian economy is in tatters and will probably never recover - even if the sanctions were to be lifted.

[@cainfamily7839]

We were told the Russians were having to strip microchips from washing machines … how is this possible ?

[@PaulV.]

We ve been told at the start of the war that Russians are "stealing old washing machines" as well. I stopped trusting the news already at that time thinking why a Russian soldier who is paid $2500/mo need to bother to haul some old washing maching several hundreds miles back home when he can simply buy a new one for his 3 days salary in appliance store?

[@faros6090]

They've seriously said something like that? This is my first time watching The Telegraph. I'm honestly regretting doing so.

[@xyz-mx8iy]

@@faros6090Telegraph and western media said a lot. Russian economy will collapse, putin has cancer, coup in russia, frontline collapse from western game changing weapons, low morale, no equipment ammo food or water, russian troops using shovels because they have no guns, russians using microships from microwaves and dishwashers in their tanks, legends such as the ghost of kyiv, akula of the dnipro and dima the sniper, russia blowing up its own pipeline and dams, russian leopard tank getting blown up by a ukrainian lancet drone, russian troops dying from aids because they are rapping each other, russians dying from anthrax from digging trenches. These are the ones i can remember from the top of my head. Whats scarier is the amount of people who genuinely believed these headlines.

[@PotatoSolutions]

@@faros6090It’s become a meme now of western ̶p̶r̶o̶p̶a̶g̶a̶n̶d̶a̶ “journalism”. Several western news outlets have been saying that the Russians are so desperate they use washing machine chips, they are down to fighting with shovels, they can only rely on prisoners, they are mindless orcs who slaughter thousands of themselves to capture a tiny village with supposedly no strategic value, etc.

[@nikolaishmelev7837]

Well, stripping microchips from washing machines and using them in fighter jets is evidence of engineering ingenuity and adaptability by itself, isn't it? any army capable of doing that is a very formidable opponent.

[@waraytintin]

Napoleon and Adolf know better.

How so?

[@alexanderwei7644]

they both lost due to stupid strategies and russian massive area which is nearly impossible to conquer especially when the winter hits

[@hidan5974]

@@alexanderwei7644 oh yeah, winter... Did winter last for 4 years? Or how else did Russia manage to win against Hitler

@@alexanderwei7644 Ukraine is not trying to invade Russia.

[@negaranegara62]

😂😂😂😂

[@yolomcswaggens9482]

When Telegraph went into "oh sh*t* mode after finally realizing that even the slowest sheep began waking up and giving them looks😂

[@skinnyg2268]

Glide bombs have a range of 50 km, i don't think the Russians are using them to strike Ukraine in the depth, they're only being used to hit targets near the frontlines

[@alanb9337]

Have a look at the Ukraine live map. Kharkiv civilian populated areas are less than 50km from the Russian/ Ukrainian border.

[@Ballardian]

Actually those FAB 1500 glide bombs can reach between 60 and 70 km.

[@TommyTipex]

They improved those a long time ago mate

[@gary637]

He said the only way to combat the glide bombs was to shoot down the bomber that carries them. They are launched well out of range and Ukraine can't defend themselves against them.

[@antonsinitsyn6420]

In September 2023 the glide wings were upgraded by Russians and now those bombs can reach up to 200km, and actively have been using for 120-150km distance

[@ProblemOfficer3000]

again with the 'meatgrinder assaults' term used by journalists that dont know the difference between a rifle and a handgun

[@sussyb1471]

I wouldn't even surprise if they ever refer the Mosin Nagant as a musket at this point

[@paulobainz1210]

The war, according to Harry Potter.

[@forfun3394]

XD

[@FidelCastro404]

Hey Telegraph.. where are the shovels?

[@ibrahimmoncada2710]

This man dont dont seem to understand that ukraine is running out of men

[@Mike_Davidson]

😂😂😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Booz2010]

Slava 🇹🇼

[@lc3853]

Where all the modern girl bosses at?

[@FunkySpaceLord]

This man does not understand Putin is running out of oil factories 😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@michaelcoletta4547]

Like he cares

[@swugjay7189]

To have an enemy being funded and weaponised by the best 50 military countries in the world, who would have performed better than the Russians are doing. France couldn't even sustain an air campaign against Libya and had to call for US help. I just don't get it. The comparisons are stupid to begin. Russia has also fought third-world countries and dominated everything in the recent past. But this war is very different, and without Western support, it is obvious that Ukraine is a no match for the Russians.

[@josefinoaguirre8720]

Yeah but during WWII, Russia got help from the allies and American too. So comparison was a bit outdated. The truth was Russian became very arrogant from the beginning and think Ukraine will be dominated just that. They were wrong. They forgot the sense of Ukraian resolve and tenacity and resilience. Plus their army are smart and innovative. Tact tic ally savvy and very engaging. They have the 100% support of the people. They are professional soldiers.

[@ojimiseun1648]

@@josefinoaguirre8720total nonsense

[@user-yy1rs3df3q]

@@josefinoaguirre8720 "The truth was Russian became very arrogant from the beginning and think Ukraine will be dominated just [like] that" The same could be said of the collective west's ability dominate Russia. Ukraine is paying the price for the West's miscalculation. The question is who will learn from their mistakes faster?

[@BlueLineSwineExposer]

What dillusional people ! Russia still can't even manage to be the 2nd best military in Ukraine . The only reason they are making any advances is that USA are liars and North Korea , China and Iran are supplying Russia with missiles , uniforms , radios , drones and shells !

[@mrbaywatch21]

Don’t forget they got beaten pretty bad by the Chechens, grozny was a nightmare, sarajevo was pretty bad, and even in 2014 Ukraine they took some severe losses still, so much so that populations in Russia and the media picked up on the Russian soldiers dying in Ukraine before 2022.

[@FidelCastro404]

Zelensky should heed the wise words of the Pope.. no need to die for Nato.

[@user-sc7fk5ys6x]

Says Fidel. Nice name dude

[@AaSs-ln9mm]

Learning how to fight with shovels. And without ammo, logistics, fuel, tanks, morale, soldiers, ships, rockets...

[@ArrosticiniVore]

Learn to fight without a country

[@yakiv1261]

The shovels starting to add up

[@Shik0njuul934]

😂😂😂

[@DavidCarvalho-iz4ny]

Beware of the shovels and washing machines 😮

[@artiefakt4402]

They'd better use them to fix those dams in Russia then... Putin is spending so much money in its war... using funds meant to help the population (health, education, maintenance of civilian infrastructures...). The war was ok for most Russians as long as they were not directly impacted by it... this might change in the near future as everything is crumbling down over there.

[@yakiv1261]

@@DavidCarvalho-iz4ny 😂😂

[@FunkySpaceLord]

All russia black fleet ships are gone 😂😂😂😂😂

[@cabracove]

Learning? LOL, they have been using defense in depth since the battle of Kursk in 1943.

[@thea6573]

And the West tell Ukraine to believe that they can punch through Russia defence line like Germany in 1943 in they're believing with modern military and best weapons could win the war and here we are repeat the same mistake like Germany did.

[@Ave-Revivus993]

Я не понимала что он говорит, но, по вашему комментарию я думаю что что то негативное:((

[@SuperParatech]

@@Ave-Revivus993 Западная пропаганда - лучшая пропаганда в мире. Это так хорошо, что жители Запада верят, что в любой другой стране, кроме нашей, есть пропаганда. Проблема нашей пропаганды в том, что в конечном итоге истина становится слишком очевидной. Теперь мастера пропаганды должны изобрести новую пропаганду, чтобы скрыть ошибки исходной пропаганды, которую они создали. Даже ребенок уже не сможет сказать, что у императора нет одежды. На самом деле было бы преступлением предполагать, что император - мужчина. Наше общество в замешательстве, но, по крайней мере, наши пропагандисты понимают, что Россия сильна.

[@Ave-Revivus993]

@@SuperParatech Tysm!

[@zacharyhoffman9972]

Exactly. Hell, the Ukrainian counter-offensive was partially on the same ground as the battle of Kursk and suffered from the same problems as the Germans most notably delays in execution that allowed a massive build-up of Russian forces in defensive depth.

[@marathon2308]

"Meat grinder assaults"....😅..bruh do these guys think we are 3graders or something?

[@alexeishayya-shirokov3603]

So THIS is what a narrative collapse looks like...

[@RollinsonMedia]

Listen for 20 seconds. Stopped at meat grinder assaults.

[@ishu.7]

haha exactly. These people still trying to sell propaganda

[@sleepyjoe7843]

Apparently 10 men attacking is nowadays meat grinder.

[@cosmicdebris2223]

how were 14 ( *14* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Challengers (and 100 or so Leopards) supposed to make "mincemeat" of several *1000* Russian tanks? The assertion is/was absurd.

[@N0_L]

Tank to tank warfare is no more thanks to cheap fpv drones.

[@vistakay]

Tanks have become entirely useless for this kind of conflict. I think the future is Light armour combined with drones and infantry

[@N0_L]

@@vistakay tanks are needed to break through enemy fortifications but I think they will need to be redesigned. We will see new tank designs after this war ends.

[@Llkc60]

​@@vistakayno the future is electronic warfare against drones, drones directly supporting tanks. Drones designed to automatically hunt down other drones.

[@maryginger4877]

Tanks are being used as per original doctrine as ground support in combined arms warfare....

[@urallnutz5294]

Russia and China are closer than ever, both now believe they are on America's hitlist, and they will cooperate extensively against a common adversary. This fact alone expands Russia's capabilities far beyond its pre Ukraine limitations.

[@roberteastwoodcolmannn9790]

I like ur English bro well said

[@avocadoarmadillo7031]

Nothing learns faster than an army at war, and nothing is dumber than an army which hasn't been at war in a while.

[@hajtomjones4077]

The telegraph is forces to discuss this cuz their lies for 2 years arent standing up.

[@diangelis1]

exactly. they think we are stupid to believe in this clown presenting the video and their narratory.

[@bartsimpson8616]

they exist just for producing lies and spins under ''democracy'' now internet put light on them , its not 1990 and they cant spread hate lies as they do when ocupied and distroyed Jugoslavija and Iraq.

[@user-yc4xf8cv5y]

The political system in UK is rotten 😂😂🤣

[@mikechantry158]

Like it is in virtually every country…

[@sikderqais6151]

The political system is rotten everywhere including the U.K., U.S., China, Russia, and Ukraine.

[@baikorg]

One party better than communist

[@devinfraserashpole4753]

@@baikorg The UK is a communist place.

[@Mickyway]

​@@mikechantry158 it's still way worse here

[@VIPER276]

Lmfao. is Telegraph ok? what's with the sudden changes? almost praising the Russians army compared to what they told us 😂

[@NoWeakness9140]

Even before watching this video, I hurried to the comments. I knew legends here would destroy the telegraph 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@user-kf6jp3eu4g]

I am a German. In WW II my father fought in the Ukraine. When he came back, he said: "No war again! "

[@nikolaikorobeinik119]

He should have said it to the Russians also.

[@dimsum947]

The Russians drove the Germans back to Berlin

[@goenzoy712]

Same here just with grandfather He never came back from Kharkiv 1943 battle

[@B1GuD0G]

Germany should never rearm or threaten Russia again. Shame on Germany for turning the eu into its proxy system.

[@zakauckram4987]

How many times have west gone east and its ending bad ​@nikolaikorobeinik119

[@mostlymessingabout]

Why is Harry Potter working for the Telegraph now?

[@chaosland5325]

He's from Home alone, no?

[@v.5442]

Homeless Draco Malfoy

[@goredawg777]

Funny coming from a guy wear one of my dishtowels on his head.

[@natalja6680]

Man, I spilled my coffee.

[@lsbc9666]

Underestimating your enemies never ends well.

[@ian2372]

If we stopped meddling we would have nothing to worry about. We only have to worry about war because our corrupt politicians want to attack Russia.

[@mssv19123]

The UK narrator forget to mention also the myth they are fighting using shovels and washing machines...

[@Patrick.Datura.]

Вчера разобрал пылесос отнёс микросхемы в пункт,сказали чтобы завтра мой медведь принёс мой старый ядерный реактор который я уже не использую 😢

[@user-yy1rs3df3q]

"There is a bit of a myth" that we at The Telegraph helped propagate. The aid being held up in the US House isn't the problem. The problem is the US doesn't have weapons to give Ukraine and lacks the industrial base to meet it's needs in the near future. If the US had the weapons ready to go but was waiting for a check from congress to clear, it would have easily found a work around to get the weapons to Ukraine months ago. If it was really just a funding issue, European nations would have wrote the US a check to get those weapons out the door.

[@superspies32]

US can produce enough and excess the amount Ukraine needed. However, Israel already emptied every stock of US millitary contractors (Lockeed Martin stock price go 200% in 1 minutes after Israel congress gave Metalyahoo dictatorship until Gaza be genocided). Problem came from EU because they insert diamonds and golds to their shells so each of them cost 2000 USD.

[@GaminHasard]

This is the essence. The globalization of industry made the west unsafe. Unprepared for true industrial scale war. Defence is not for war but for shareholder profits.

[@GaminHasard]

@@superspies32the USA can’t produce it. That’s the issue. Only surge capacity for artillery shells was created by the army. Rest just isn’t there. Takes years to build up. Russia had massive spare capacity ready to surge and extra to build out. State owned companies.

[@JT-on7pf]

Finally someone who realizes that ....

[@user-sn1tt6tw8w]

Россия выиграет ! 100% ! Ура ! :) :) :)

[@conconmc]

The telegraph is the most inconsistent media outlet I've ever seen.

[@WRXMSK]

It's a media toilet, mate

[@garrykeelan4790]

Yes, because one of the most powerful armies in the world, with a population steeped in martial history and a national pride based around strength and stoicism, will produce cowardly soldiers and incompetent officers....

[@JustinRM20]

Didn't know the Telegraph could do realistic, grounded takes on hot items. Well done.

[@leagueaccount6254]

the telegraph is the same place that said russians are fighting with shovels and using north korean washing machine chips.....

[@joek600]

They cant, they just changed the narrative from ''Ukraine is winning all the way'' into the latest ''quick lets throw more money in Ukraine so that they wont lose''.

[@JustinRM20]

@@leagueaccount6254 Yes, which is why I said I'm surprised they made a video like this.

[@yakiv1261]

@@leagueaccount6254lol so true

[@j.k.1239]

They want to get the aid pass.That's why.

[@amitkalita001]

First time I saw no propaganda in Western media 🎉

[@stefank6932]

Don’t get carried away- they only had to admit the obvious that most new for a while and was becoming too apparent on the battlefield. The telegraph will go as far as to say that Russia is doing some things right but in reality this war is already lost - the question left is how many more Ukrainians die before it ends.

[@cisjga]

That's because the end is near and they are trying to save face.

[@tonym842]

They know they have already lost so are trying to cover up their propaganda lies of the past.

[@DS9TREK]

​@@cisjga🙄

[@dax354able]

actually its a propaganda. russian propaganda. lol

[@welcomenkambule4215]

If u say 🇷🇺 is inexperienced, u want to tell us that NATO led coalition in Ukrain is defeated by an inexperienced army

[@kwakuagyapong2677]

i think this guy should worry most about British army

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

God Save The King

[@azhanali1448]

Not true. Russia has only shovels left. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bobzelley5100]

Eastern Ukraine is essentially Russia by culture ,language , custom , kin and religion.

[@daigoro111]

The religion is Orthodox Christianity, which started in Chernihiv, Ukraine. The Language is irrelevant, otherwise Spain,. France and England have claim to most of the world. Culture is Ukrainian. Kin is russian because they put them there after starting 4 million Ukrainians in the 1920-30s. Try and learn things outside of russian propaganda.

[@ryannoble4789]

Getting a junior reporter to actually report the truth, no wonder he looks red faced.

[@ManufactureBelief]

Anyone else surprised the Telegraph still has comments enabled on their videos? The public no longer buy their bull*@#$

[@shedlight1639]

This is the Nation that perfected deep defense and onto deep battle after Stalingrad and at Kursk and then to operation Bagration that smashed army group centre in eight weeks and so defeated Germany in WW2. What did the arrogant West expect fighting Russia yet again?

[@goodintentions5189]

I heard the Japanese still wonder what hit them in Manchuria. That's why they don't care about the atomic bomb

[@toader123]

United States supported the Soviet Union with supplies during World War II under the Lend-Lease program, including during the battles of Stalingrad and Kursk. This assistance included crucial military and logistical materials like tanks, aircraft, and food. The aid helped the Soviet Union effectively combat German forces at pivotal points, significantly influencing the outcomes of these major battles on the Eastern Front.

[@JL-tm3rc]

@@toader123 that aid is almost negligible. it is just 5% of the overall war effort of the soviets. the british received more aid than the russians. US tanks only fought in the caucauses with very little contribution as most of the fighting are in the mountains. after that most tanks were scrapped due to lack of spare parts and maintaining its own logistics.

[@toader123]

@@JL-tm3rc The claim that U.S. aid to the USSR during WWII was negligible and only accounted for 5% of the Soviet war effort is an oversimplification. Lend-Lease aid was crucial, delivering around $11 billion in equipment, including 400,000 trucks and 12,000 armored vehicles, which significantly enhanced Soviet logistics and mobility. While it's true the UK received more aid in dollar terms and that there were issues with tank usage and maintenance in certain regions, the overall impact of American aid on the Soviet war effort was substantial, aiding key aspects of the Red Army's operations.

[@majk7477]

@@toader123obvious chatgpt

[@Wayne-B]

Is Russia a enemies, or does The USA making them enemies to everyone? NATO growing on their borders, is a big reason to worry with how many times Russia has been invaded. I understand their worries.

[@johnb.8687]

Those former Soviet block countries beg to be in nato because they know it offers them protection from being culturally Russified and having their resources confiscated sent to Moscow. Like they have in the past. Russia is hungry animal.

[@raptorreaper]

Apparently it took 2 years for Telegraph to realise what actually is going on and they still couldn't figure out the whole story lol.

[@mysticman1671]

the telegraph basically realized that no one is buying into their propaganda so they are now debunking their own myths ! 🤣😂🤣🤣

[@Bella_Kilori]

Add to the list that they treat terrorists like they should be treated

[@ForelliBoy]

Randomly picked up and framed?

[@NDR-hn3ue]

How should terrorists be treated ???

[@lunabranwen]

Putin is a terrorist

[@tinydestroyer4672]

@@ForelliBoy what xD

[@bigmungus4864]

bro doesn't know what terrorism means. if label Russia a terrorist u might as well label every country who has been to war a terrorist u chump

[@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ]

1:55 is actually a Ukrainian arty strike in Donetsk.

[@antonnnio6901]

they don't care about such insignificant discrepancies

[@Shik0njuul934]

Yeah these news channels actually do that a lot.

[@Shik0njuul934]

Yeah it’s not a glide bomb. it dropped from the way the smoke rose from the explosion. Propaganda at its finest

[@burritosls]

Who knows, lol. The main thing is to convey to people that Russia is evil🤣🤣🤣And people all believe in it. They stupidly believe their governments.

[@ggg-cf9zl]

Said Russian troll 🤡

[@bingobongo9340]

Telegraph hot take : there are reports that the Russians might not rush positions using shovels

[@bingobongo9340]

This is wild to watch, is this the first time the telegraph admitted the summer offensive failed last year? He said it like he expects people are shocked by this take xD

[@bolshevikproductions]

Zelenskyy spends most of usa aid on luxury goods yachts. He’s even bought a Caribbean island. So no monies to corrupt

[@victormayomi6223]

Ukraine should sue for peace

[@superspies32]

Maybe when Donald Trump win the election. Right now if Zelensky do that he will become second Ngo Dinh Diem

[@citrusretna2088]

Their masters won't let them

[@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311]

@@citrusretna2088 Yes NATO/Washington is to blame but so is the Ukrainian government. They know they won't survive a peace deal so want to go down fighting like Hitler 1945.

[@MaxMoscow]

В первые две минуты я услышал столько вранья, лжи и страха в твоих словах Девид, не стыдно тебе быть при этом журналистом?? Ты не журналист!!

[@WRXMSK]

All of them should be ashamed of themselves. But spreading lies is what they are paid for.

[@ericflores9201]

the telegraph is such meteoric garbage

[@panzergarden1232]

No air support was a key factor also. Like wwII,it is very important and Ukraine lacks it.

[@micumatrix]

In WW2 Russia had no air superiority till the last 1,5 years.

[@maryginger4877]

In peer 2 peer modern warfare air defense is simply to effective . . . Russia has crippled Ukrainian Air defense, but even so they got more sense than to get in range of it...

[@user-ym9qw3gg3j]

Russ has little air stuff compared to nato

[@maryginger4877]

@@user-ym9qw3gg3j NATO can over come 3rd world air defense. Since the Israeli got blown out of the sky over Suez... we know Rusian Air Defense works... Also, the NATO answer to Russian Air Defense failed in Ukraine turns out the HARM missile was harmless.

[@robertjohn6585]

​@@micumatrixyeah and they lost over 10 million men becuase of those same meat wave tactics that they still use today lmao.

[@mitrogulf4073]

Russia always first learned through practice, the theory quickly became outdated, but then surpassed its own teacher in certain aspects, first giving the enemy a chance to feel the stupidity and weakness of the Russians, which ultimately played a cruel joke on the arrogant

[@1k20a]

The only reason the Russians have lasted in Ukraine is because Ukraine can not get anything quick enough. The Russians are given to much credit.

[@dzonikg]

@@1k20a Ukraine received more then 200 billion $,that is more in todays money then whole Marshal pan for west europe rebuild

[@nidhoggcrowley]

@@1k20a And how much aid has Russia received?

[@1k20a]

@@nidhoggcrowley not nearly enough that is needed. The Ukrainians disarmed themselves back in the 90s. It takes alot more aid for the Ukrainians to be anywhere close to a standard military.

[@Okiejayjay]

@@1k20a well they just beat NATO, but then so did 70,000 Afghan sheep herders.

[@bryancarter9462]

I wouldn't believe the telegraph even if they told me they were lying

[@rous914]

They simply learned to build better washing machines and shovels.

[@k.s.mountakis170]

People forget .. we're talking about a country that had sent a person on a space walk .. before NASA was even founded!

[@obsidianjane4413]

False. Go fact check yourself.

[@rexfordasiedu5963]

It was them. No need to check anything. 😂

[@superspies32]

​@@obsidianjane4413its true. Soviets already sent people to space while Apollo 1 crew be roasted inside the cabin.

[@user-ii9qw7nn1h]

Вы правы,и сегодня мы отмечаем День Космонавтики!

[@LoveBhagavan]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@Llkc60]

Finally proper reporting on the war. Facing facts is always more fruitful than selling lies. The style of the other host is unbearable, this one was fine.

[@willharrison3740]

perfidious Albion is getting ready to abandon the Ukraine

[@user-ed3ol1ij5i]

Just like the guy lied, he continues to lie. He simply covers up one lie with another. First they lied that the Russian army was a bunch of cowardly demoralized incompetents, now they lie that these incompetent morons were trained and armed, which is why the worthless army became worthy, not because their lies became obvious.

[@user-uv6bl5ez6g]

Believe me, everything is much worse, it just became unbearable not to notice)))) This can be seen from a selection of materials on Ukrainian and Russian defeat frames (where other types of drones were not shown before the modernization of artillery, tanks and increasing their production, electronic warfare, satellites, etc.)) All the same British victory reports in newspapers as 150-200 years ago Ahahah.

[@braxxian]

After 2 years of basically lying to everyone it’s pretty obvious by now that Ukraine is not winning this war. The MSM quickly changing their tune and hoping the sheep won’t notice.

[@pauljosephsoh1732]

I woke up 2 years ago.

[@techelitesareadisease8816]

"The rest of the world should wake up too." What threat does that regime from Eurasia possibly pose to me or my interests? The Europeans can worry about it if they believe that Russia is, somehow, going to roll over them despite an atrocious birth rate for the last few decades and hardly any young men available to conscript.

[@vinodnitesh]

Fine and honest reporting, well done I am an Indian - Australian, have worked and lived in Russia for over 5 years, and can say they are much much better than most western media portray them

[@horoshkoaleksandr273]

I'm russian and had to live in India for almost 2 years because of work. And my opinion is that indians are much worse than they're portrayed in our and western media

[@braxxian]

That’s because western media are 100% BS and always have been.

[@iitzkryy9599]

A successful offensive is the ultimate challenge in warfare and requires significant coordination and resources. Russia has taken early measures to address its own defense and has established an impressive blockade in the south.

[@joek600]

but I thought that they are stupid and orcs

[@ethancoster1324]

​@@joek600Orcs learn.

[@iitzkryy9599]

@@joek600 Useless propaganda. Thats it 🤷‍♂

[@mopbot40k99]

They are.

[@Trener_Artem]

Hi, im from Russia, St-Petersburg. I am just reading the comments with a wide smirk on my face.

[@muhammadhassankiyani8953]

The Russian lancets are new and based on the technology provided to them by the Iranians. Russia was decades behind in drone technology. Remember the Shahed drones? They were developed in the early 2010s and the lancets are a new and advanced form of them.

[@mattgoulden4779]

Plan for what is difficult while it is easy.

[@gapper3]

They made a desert and called it peace.

[@Rspsand07]

An "armoured column" and a "meat wave" are completely mutually exclusive. I suggest the telegraph looks up what meat wave means before showing small armoured columns, both of those adjectives disproving the claim.

[@Bidmartinlo]

Never underestimate your enemy, no matter how weak they appear.

[@realitycheck1883]

Commentators such as Alexander Mercouris and Brian Berletic have been saying this for the last two years. The Telegraph has finally caught up

[@andrew300169]

Laughable, nercouris says Russia will take this town or village after another tremendous success, day after day for months and months

[@realitycheck1883]

@@andrew300169 and they do

[@Okiejayjay]

@@andrew300169 actually that what the Ukrainians say, even when advancing in retreat.

[@andrew300169]

@@Okiejayjay He never even talks about the hundreds of tanks losses 10,000# lost soldiers, because he’s a disbarred lawyer paid by the Kremlin like the Duran.

[@maxdc988]

Not only Russia is learning. The rest of world (ex-West) is waking up and also learning. 😂

[@krsmovie1939]

What kind of shovels do Russians have that the whole West went into a panic mode?

[@willc9580]

This is a surprising deviation from the telegraphs usual "Russia has already lost" narrative.