Russia’s Black Sea base ‘useless’ I Ukraine: The Latest, Podcast

Day 864.
Today, we bring you news from Ukraine, analyse Victor Orban’s diplomatic visits to Kyiv and Moscow, and we talk about the long term impacts of the war on Ukraine’s animal population. Plus, immediate reaction to the general election result in the UK, which is elected a new Prime Minister.
Contributors:
David Knowles (Journalist). @djknowles22 on X.
Dom Nicholls (Associate Editor, Defence). @DomNicholls on X.
Francis Dearnley (Assistant Comment Editor). @FrancisDearnley on X.
James Kilner (Foreign Correspondent). @jkjourno on X.
With thanks to Yuriy Tokarski (CEO of U-hearts Foundation) and Kateryna Parunova (IT project manager, NGO “Better Regulation Delivery Office”).
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[@paulbeesley8283]

I recently visited an animal charity in Kharkiv. They had a policy of never putting down an animal. My guide told of a dog with a broken back that was successfully fostered out to a German family. My guide said that even this dog deserved a chance of life. Yes, rabies is a problem, as is the large number of stray and increasingly, feral dogs.

[@sebastianforbes1]

- and yet, the animals must continue to suffer until we have returned Ukraine to 1991 borders ?

[@benjerman4438]

​@@sebastianforbes1Yes. Exactly. That's what everyone believes.

[@SuperRosie123]

@@sebastianforbes1 And the people too? They, too, suffer every day.

[@sebastianforbes1]

@@SuperRosie123 - but the people asked for it, whereas the animals weren't given any choice ?

[@kharkiv4life]

That city is plagued with stray dogs even before the war. This policy is a problem not a solution...

[@RdamplificationUk1]

As off the wall as it seems... Cameron as a non elected rep, could continue to play an important role given his network of contacts and relative success WRT diplomatic efforts for Ukraine?? At the end of the day our Ukraine position should not be overly defined by party politics. Lets do the best thing rather than the politcs thing.

[@RichRobinson]

These podcasts are superb. I listen every day. Thanks to all involved.

[@SuperMagnum2011]

Thanks again. Very informative . Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 🇬🇧

[@MichaelSmith-dm2qu]

Good luck UK

[@yuglesstube]

Its wonderful that these people are looking after pets. I just cant listen further. Its just a tragic situation. Horrible.

[@HNH421]

They were described as the Ukrainian animal population /not/ pets in Ukraine some "People", are of a different ethnicity, a different church, and a different species🤗

[@abot5381]

As Russia's population shrinks, that leaves a lot more room for wild animals.

[@yuglesstube]

@@abot5381 It's Ukraine's population that has really fallen. But the environment is devastated. It was easy to avoid this war.

[@user-re5nz9sk3t]

Listening to your program daily from Kharkiv

[@jonbaxter2254]

Godspeed

[@terryross2388]

This region will be part of the Russian border before long. Kharkiv residents will then not have to worry about snitches reporting them to the SBU for pro-Russian thinking. That is what happened to Gonzalo Lira.

[@Kath-nd6pj]

Female hater ‚Coach Red Pill‘ Does not sound like a very likeable person to me „self defined dating coach“!

[@kharkiv4life]

Stay safe and strong in my beloved city❤️‍🩹

[@terryross2388]

@@Kath-nd6pj He was such a female hater that he regularly showcased independent female journalists on his channel.

[@gee3883]

no more cringey Sunak intro has made my day

[@Saleemsan]

It were Tony Blair, no?

[@fredslipknot9]

Same!

[@DarkCriimes]

Ditto

[@sebastianforbes1]

@@Saleemsan - Acrington Stanley ?

[@Kath-nd6pj]

@Saleemsan Not about the person, just that voice jarred so. Just that it came day in day out and I too found the monotony of it getting annoying. And no, have not heard Tony Blair‘s voice in an age.

[@Earscoop]

What a great democracy Britain has a party that gets 14 % of the vote gets 4 seats and the other gets 12 % and keeps 70 seats

[@tawektawek3838]

Except, that party that got 72 seats has always argued for the system to change, and it continues to do so.

[@mariafoster7388]

About Trump, remember that he met with Orban a few months ago when Orban was in the US.

[@Chris-bb2cb]

And don't forget the only russian government plane to fly to the west in the last two years. Conveniently parked next to trumps plane in Dallas last week. Their IS a link between them all.... and I guarantee it is money from russia...

[@ariassergio5066]

I WONDER IF ORBAN AFTER MEETING TRUMP, IS serving AS the messenger boy, between these two.

[@trumpsuckspigbalz2351]

Orban and Trump. Two autocrats. Two fascists.

[@Kath-nd6pj]

Trump and Carlson have visited Orban in Hungry earlier on in this war. Trump has praised Orban enthusiastically too. But neither interested in visiting war torn Ukraine. I believe Trump would love to visit Putin, but is more worried about that image to actually go. Huge wonder what the Russian diplomatic Plane parked alongside Trump‘s private plane recently was all about.

[@RJay121]

It appears the slow bleeding of Russian resources is working. 😮

[@pburgvenom]

Puck Footin

[@todd1770]

Ok

[@sebastianforbes1]

- Zuck Felenskiy

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

❤🇷🇺

[@Kingcarparpeggio]

@@sebastianforbes1: Yuck Foo and Pollocks to Butin. 😂😂😂

[@considerthis7712]

Future theme: why Hungary’s people put up with their Leader?

[@dimas3829]

more like: totally legal Hungarian coup and why it is helpful to EU democracy

[@davidshapiro292]

They agree with him.

[@sebastianforbes1]

- 'cos... law and democracy ?

[@terryross2388]

For the same reason that someone "puts up" with anything beneficial to their well being. Slovaks feel the same, as do an increasing number of French - hence the strong performance of Marine Le Pen

[@sebastianforbes1]

@@terryross2388 - the fact that the EU have a very real fear concerning the growth of the "far" right, just goes to show that people are fed up and starting to use their votes to effect change ?

[@user-uq9pg4vf7b]

A video is being actively discussed on the social network X, in which a serviceman of the 137th separate battalion of the Ukrainian Marine Corps with amputated legs says that compensation for limbs torn off in battles is 1.5 thousand hryvnia ($37) per month. The unit's military unit number, A3821, is also clearly visible in the frame. This formation actively participated in the attempts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to force the Dnieper and gain a foothold on the left bank, but, like the rest of the units and formations of the Ukrainian army, it was almost completely destroyed.

[@nerd26373]

We appreciate your insights. Keep making an impact on the community.

[@jonathanjacob5453]

Another informative pod.

[@forttottenrocks]

"There is power in the peaceful transition of power." ~ An editorializing Philippine news anchor in 2021.

[@hello_hansen]

intro rocks

[@DaveWhitney-py3ch]

God bless England for showing us what a peaceful transition of power should look like!

[@anderscomstedt3064]

James, get closer to the microphone or out of the echo chamber. Please.

[@earlaustin6025]

Happy 4th too British people. How we the USA 🇺🇸 has a King 🤴 thanks too the courts 😢

[@jhonhu4172]

Hard news,strong content,stay confident.We wont run😢

[@annetteroennow9694]

Orban meeting with the indicted leader by the international court of Russia - should be a no-no for an EU leader. A peaceful transfer of power in Britain.. US could learn!-

[@briancarno8837]

why is the EU a dictatorship then?

[@RadcliffeWilliams-pd2hr]

ICC is a bogus organization

[@damarisquarz6262]

ursula is a criminal, its offical

[@pburgvenom]

Orban is a little girl…

[@s0ycapitan]

The indictment is ridiculous 😂, it's just propaganda. When the ICC wanted to indict Netanyahu America threatened to sanction it.

[@michaeldarling1759]

Zelenski says the Russians will be invited to the next Peace Summit because he figures Putinpot will be toast by then. I say this because Zelenski still says that he refuses talks with the existing regime.

[@dimas3829]

the same Zelensky that recently finally whined that the Ukrainian military losses are too much to handle, eh? More like desperation finally kicked in and clown in chief finally recognised that he can't steal international aid for long before his fascistic regime will fall.

[@jaymacpherson8167]

Regarding Francis’ points made just past 11:00…Comparing fringe political positions’ power brokering effectiveness in a parliamentary system to the system in the US is apples to oranges. Arguably the dysfunction ongoing in the US political system is primarily due to the exercise of parliamentary politics in Congress. This parliamentary tact was first used by Newt Gingrich in the late 1980s, and Congress has been on a downhill roll ever since.

[@stevenpace892]

Cameron was short lived in his role, but did an incredible service. Sorry to see him go.

[@mattnesspl6785]

Service? He will be known in history books as a PM who launched Brexit referendum. What kind of service is that?

[@user-hv6db1sq7o]

I don't understand why they don't have enough weapons against Putin?

[@sebastianforbes1]

- because the Russians keep blowing them up faster than the West can build them ?

[@inezm8444]

They went into the 4.7Mil bugatti Mrs Zelenski is buying.....

[@BobMuskFan]

It shows Ukrainian superiority in the sea and on land.

[@sebastianforbes1]

- and, how does that 'superiority' translate into results ?

[@HNH421]

@@sebastianforbes1 preventative medicine is a resalt Not a cure

[@sebastianforbes1]

@@HNH421 - only if diagnosed correctly ?

[@HNH421]

@@sebastianforbes1 russia is a festering wound

[@inezm8444]

No wonder Ukraine is losing if its wasting shells trying to sink boats.....someone needs to tell the ukrainians that its a land battle not a sea battle....

[@jimgraham6722]

Democracy currently under pressure, I think Starmer will be sound in mounting the defence but also think he will need all the help he can get. Cameron, Sunak and even Johnson could be resources he could tap particularly in ambassadorial roles.

[@sebastianforbes1]

- Starmer won't complete his 5 year mandate (voted in by only 20% of the UK population)...

[@cultofpersonalit1888]

Talking about France people tend to focalize on the far right when talking about questioning the French support to Ukraine but far right bardella never said anything about stopping the French support to Ukraine on the other hand the leader of the far left group called LFI also prominent figure of the newest left leaning coalition NFP Mélenchon publicly said multiple times that France shouldn't support Ukraine because our support escalate the conflict and in addition he told multiple times that NATO was totally responsible for the Ukrainian war, but for some reasons people outside of France speaks rarely about that fact and even more concerning I saw multiple Ukrainian supporters cheering about the NFP coalition "winning" the last French legislative elections.

[@Bringittothetable-ns6zp]

front line needs u

[@notaspy1227]

That's clever, replacing bits and pieces of the intro as the war goes on. Very cringey of me to say, but in the west, anything that keeps people tuning in like “easter eggs” is good for keeping support strong for Ukraine.

[@stevenpace892]

Wars are very much evolving things. One chapter ends, another begins.

[@captivatethem]

at one point they had clips from Boris, Truss and Sunak bolted onto one another in the intro

[@robertsteele474]

@@captivatethem Cheddar, lettuce and curry salad.

[@captivatethem]

@@robertsteele474 don't forget the pork and beans that came before

[@CatalystD9]

#Peremoha .. 🔥🔥🔥

[@user-ik8ot1gq3j]

Is rabies a manditory vaccine in Ukraine?

[@Kath-nd6pj]

It is in mainland Europe, so could well be. Wild Animals do not know boarders. And in Europe there is a certain amount of resistance/carriers within their wild animal kingdom. We are the exception here on our island. Hense our quarantine laws. Pets can be vaccinated, but the wild life is at risk, which in turn threatens our livestock, pets and all our animals.

[@stevenpace892]

It is ironic that Stamer is an old 'Socialist', formally a leading Trotskyist, he is facing off against Putin who is some sort of keleptocratic dictator like Brechnev. Almost like a new russian civil war ;)

[@tawektawek3838]

Starmer was more left wing when he was younger, which is not uncommon. Today, he is realistic and extremely results oriented - which is a very good thing. (PS I did not vote Labour)

[@jeffevarts8757]

Pole dancers and animal charities? No disrespect to ANYONE affected by the war in Ukraine, but maybe get some of your interns out there to beat the bushes for guests more on-track for this podcast. -A long time fan in California, USA

[@jhonhu4172]

🎉🎉

[@BradleytothToth-bh7zi]

I believe the u.k.jounalism is best!!!

[@malloc7108]

love from the US, but I feel pretty embarrassed by your allusion to our recent difficult transfer of power.

[@pedtrog6443]

All I can say is - God help America

[@dimas3829]

@@pedtrog6443 for no one else can

[@robertsteele474]

"The delivery of F-16s will provide Ukraine with greatly increased capabilities in the air domain and may also have other indirect military and political benefits. *_However, the addition of these aircraft alone is unlikely to have a decisive strategic effect on the course of the conflict given the operational challenges Ukraine faces._* The Atlantic August 25, 2023 "The F-16 Is Not A Panacea For Air Superiority, *_Says Ukrainian Aviation Chief"_* The Aviationist June 11, 2024 "F-16s will challenge *_Russia's aerial dominance over Black Sea,_* Ukraine's Navy chief says" Kyiv Independent Fri, July 5, 2024 More "game changers".🙄😬

[@btappan88]

F-16’s can’t even perform well in Ukraine. American aircraft aren’t built for soviet made runways, period. They are fine tuned machines not meant for harsh environments or deteriorating runways/highways/etc.

[@earlaustin6025]

I would vote for Jimmy Carter 2nd term before Trump and he is 99 years old. Rock 🪨 Joe Biden 2024

[@luminyam6145]

Same!

[@sebastianforbes1]

@@luminyam6145 - so, Brandon is gonna get 2 votes this November ?

[@benjerman4438]

​@@sebastianforbes1idk, he only got 8 million more than Orange Dipshit last time. We'll see what happens.

[@casperhfl]

🇺🇦🇪🇺🇩🇰

[@sebastianforbes1]

so, turning off the lights for 97% of Ukraine is now considered 'useless' ?

[@philipmain5701]

Possibly not as useless as your comments Sebastian

[@sebastianforbes1]

@@philipmain5701 - and, possibly, the F-16s will arrive this summer, even though we're still relying on regime change to remove Putin from power, and for Him to be replaced with Mahatma Gandhi or Mother Theresa ?

[@jhonhu4172]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@jvt1256]

I appreciate the in depth reporting, but are the snide remarks about Trump really needed? I find the smugness extremely irritating and it takes away from the content. Its infantile.

[@LynRegan]

Ohhh Britain is such a democrasy that both parties have the same policy on Ukrain

[@sebastianforbes1]

- they cried when only 40% of the population voted for Brexit... well, only 20% just voted for Labour ?

[@abot5381]

Both party's view on Ukraine represents the will of the British public.

[@Kath-nd6pj]

Should only the highly populated areas decide what the whole of the country does? There may need to be a middle ground 50/50 using both systems maybe, but neither system alone is 100% fair in my opinion.

[@StuartDevine]

UK Since 2000 1. Blair 2. Brown 3. Cameron 4. May 5. Borris 6. Truss 7. Sunak 8. Starmer Russia 1. Putin That’s power

[@sebastianforbes1]

- that's stability of thought, stability of process, stability of results ?

[@terryross2388]

Not quite: Putin, Medvedev, Putin

[@sebastianforbes1]

@@terryross2388 - yeah but, Putin was still in control - that's power

[@dimas3829]

@@sebastianforbes1 well, then it's important to point out that the first term of Putin it was (oligarch) Beresovsky who was in control for a time, before Putin broke free.

[@sebastianforbes1]

@@dimas3829 - source and citation please ?

[@palemedes965]

Good listen.

[@user-tz8nm3nr9f]

We are stupid, we are ukrainians.

[@pedtrog6443]

Go back to your dingy krushchevka and eat your potatoes like a good boy

[@sebastianforbes1]

@@pedtrog6443 - currently, it is better to eat potatoes and be good, than to be Ukrainian ?

[@inezm8444]

Please don't insult the ukranians.....put Zelensky in place of Ukranians instead....

[@Earscoop]

How the brits still think they matter on the world stage, it entertains me

[@wesley135]

Slava ukraini

[@tombouie]

Thks &, Former PLA Soldiers Hired by Russia Cried: "Don't come, it's all a SCAM!" kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHLdiJSwlrmIma8 2 Chinese soldiers explain the pay, training and war experiences in Ukraine kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJKYp6Kjhc12jcU

[@sebastianforbes1]

Neutrality has been written into Ukraine's constitution since 1991, so who are the Ukrainians fighting for - what is Ukraine without Western funding and without Western weapons ? I wonder if we really want to do this all again for Taiwan...

[@uku4171]

Who cares about what was written into the constitution in 1991 when that doesn't fit the current situation or views of the Ukrainian people?

[@mfallen2023]

"Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss" And Lamey would be a disaster as Foreign Minister. Dude's got a screw loose

[@HNH421]

im ashamed 🙄to have lamy as Foreign Minister he is tarded🤤

[@BobMuskFan]

Russia can't even defeat the weakest army in Europe

[@terryross2388]

NATO? BTW-members of NATO are not exclusively European. Before SMO, Ukraine had the STRONGEST army in Europe. Russian role has been to degrade it (and NATO countries) despite the massive infusions of money, ammunition, equipment and weaponry as well as training, intelligence and ISR. Currently Ukraine is losing over 2000 personnel daily which means around 60,000 monthly. Zelensky's expected mobilisation and training of 50,000 will not even cover last month losses and he has scraped the bottom of barrel this time.

[@dimas3829]

Liechtenstein is not invloved, as far as I know, lmao. Cope harder

[@inezm8444]

Its a war of attrition.......

[@BobMuskFan]

@@inezm8444 there is no such thing as war of attrition

[@dimas3829]

@@BobMuskFan there is, the most fanous one of recent years was Iraq-Iran one, with lots of trench warfare akin to ww1.

[@sebastianforbes1]

Orban refused to shake Zelenskiy's hand... he didn't want to catch the Zelenskiy curse ? 🤣

[@user-ew1du2pw4n]

Funny how Telegraph propaganda machine swaps clowns around in the podcast introduction as soon as they are being put in power by their bosses, in the so called democratic processes😂

[@jeff5534]

I’m convinced they’re finding clips of these clowns saying ‘Slava Ukrainy’ on purpose… it’s pretty funny

[@MichaelSmith-dm2qu]

So is the UK ready to start defending itself? $$$$$. No way. Is Germany ready? France? Asking as an American taxpayer?

[@tr711090]

As a european tax payer America is the only country within Nato to evoke article 5 European countries spent billions and many lifes to support america in its 20 yrs of war on terror most European countries spend the 2% target ( not obligatory) and some european countries spend more on defence per capita than the usa ,

[@sebastianforbes1]

@@tr711090 - 'most', 'some'... just name them ?

[@gtilusso2101]

BS

[@FJB_TheBigGuy]

Nice Propaganda

[@Evemeister12]

So what? Zelensky realises his game is up anyway

[@johnbedolla5096]

Very biased site. Don't count on it.

[@timothykatende8484]

So PUTIN in less than 3 years has seen off 3 UK Prime Ministers namely Boris Johnstone, Liz Truss, and Rishi Sunak. What do they all have in common ? Making Ukraine their prime foreign Policy. Let me see the first visit the new prime Minister will make whether it will be Ukraine or else where. Imagine for a second if the disaster in UK was happening in Russia and how we would be flooded with Russia falling apart stories...😂😂

[@sebastianforbes1]

- the Russian economy, and quality of life, is growing in leaps and bounds... and, still yet, "we're flooded with Russia falling apart stories" ?

[@Kath-nd6pj]

And our phenomenal numerous conservative changes in who they put up as primeminsters has absolutely nothing to do with external influences, purely internal Conservative party doing.

[@goldenoriolesilverbirch8220]

Orban & Fico are a ray of common sense & hope in an EU determined to escalate the war & impoverish its citizens.

[@pedtrog6443]

There is one and only one aggressor in this war. Russia could end the war in a instant.

[@briancarno8837]

I like how the EU says Orban has no mandate to visit Russia...The EU has no mandate to send billions of euros and weapons to Ukraine but that never bothered them

[@mariafoster7388]

Yes they do. They would not be helping Ukraine if there was no mandate.

[@MusicReadingforAll]

Soviet Eastern Europe, 1944-1989

[@dimas3829]

and right after he visits Ukraine too, what a joke. EU looks like dystopian dictatoship wannabe at this point.

[@sebastianforbes1]

@@mariafoster7388 - and... Putin would not be de-militarising Ukraine 'if there was no mandate' ?

[@briancarno8837]

@@sebastianforbes1 his madndate is the US was threatening his borders

[@damarisquarz6262]

NO MAJOR UPDATES!!!!

[@RyanBrown-nx8dw]

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[@williamjones9662]

sugar coating is out and work begins..

[@RyanBrown-nx8dw]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RyanBrown-nx8dw]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-or3ld5so9c]

EU ha to get reed of the traitors 1st until then its useless

[@stevenpace892]

It is never worthless; and the battle will continue. Europe is always slow to agree, but Europe matters.

[@damarisquarz6262]

hows recruiting prisoners?

[@RichRobinson]

These podcasts are superb. I listen every day. Thanks to all involved.

[@RyanBrown-nx8dw]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RyanBrown-nx8dw]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RyanBrown-nx8dw]

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[@RyanBrown-nx8dw]

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[@RyanBrown-nx8dw]

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