Russia-Ukraine two years on: towards an endless and wider war? | UpFront

[@KneelBeforeZod.]

Aaron speaks the truth!! Facts! Truth!

[@jameswatson9641]

That lady is quite the fantasist. I applaud your patience Aaron.

[@falcatafalcata1617]

Seeing her so manic roaring and repeating old stories, I‘m afraid that she can’t honestly face the strategic goals of Ukraine‘s ability at all.

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

Ukraine’s top negotiator, Davyd Arakhamia: Russia was “prepared to end the war if we agreed to... neutrality, and committed that we would not join NATO.” But the US and UK stood in the way.

[@16252]

Since the government of Ukraine wanted to join NATO, and the EU, that sentence doesn't amount to very much.

[@Cratylus1]

Bravo, Aaron. It was 2 against you, and you prevailed! Very good job.

[@TharpaRinchen]

it was more like 3 against Aaron

[@TheRealBillBob]

Yep, he managed to interrupt their long winter rants...

[@TharpaRinchen]

Surprising that Aaron got a platform at Al Jazeera. Great job job Aaron, that wasn't easy 3 against you.

[@BloatedScrotum]

That's not even a challenge for the Buzz saw.

[@pjcmjanssen3177]

Great work by Aaron Maté. Leveling facts against the propaganda from the two guests and the host. Well done

[@ausername8699]

Hi Russian bot

[@gammasmash1924]

​@@ausername8699McCarthyism 2024

[@falcatafalcata1617]

If these two Ukrainians can represent all Ukrainians’ understanding of the war, Ukraine is slowly committing suicide!

[@ausername8699]

@@falcatafalcata1617 I guess there's no point in helping Palestinians then, since that would just prolong their inevitable genocide right?

[@Wellnesspeacelovefun]

So many Russians bots 😅

[@edwardm.9407]

Aaron Maté excellent as always.

[@ChrisAlbertH47]

Aaron was great at explaining his points. I still have sympathy toward Ukrainians, but what Aaron says makes sense based on some of the things I've read as well. The escalation of the war could've been avoided, but I feel like right now, it's the Ukrainian people fighting on the grounds that are being used as pawns, both by the hardliners in their own government who had refused to make any kind of concession, and as in the case of Boris Johnson, the Ukrainians are also being used by the west as their cannon fodder in the fight against Russia. This is a great deal for the west. All they have to do is provide material support in the form of money and weapons (which benefits the west's military industrial complex) and they got themselves a voluntary fighting force in the Ukrainians without having to actually put any boots on the ground to fight Russia. The best thing for everyone involved would be to try to seek some kind of peace agreement, because as bad as Putin is, he's not a zealot blinded by hate like some of the leaders we see in Izrael. I think Putin is smart enough to know when to call it quits.

[@ImperialMJG]

There was an american politicians that once Said "Its better to fight them (Russians) over there then here (USA). I dont remember Who or when, but just Google the quote or something. Also regarding how "Bad" Putin is in relation to Israel look at Who funds the Israelis. I'd say they aint better. They want us to believe Putin kills civilians on purpose. 10k have died in 2 years (and thats by bombings from both sides. And its well documented that UA used Avdiika to bomb Donetsk since 2014). While over 30k have died in almost 5 months in Gaza by Israel.

[@matthewspears3786]

Putin is very smart, unfortunately the West has broken so many promises and chances for peace that the trust level is at zero. So Putin won't accept a cease fire now based on empty promises.

[@dumat-i-tochka]

If you have sympathy for Ukrainians, then you should support Russia. Millions of Ukrainians have moved to live in Russia. There is a totalitarian regime in Ukraine that forces Ukrainians to fight and forbids them to tell the truth. Most Ukrainians support Russia.

[@zharkoo]

She says Ukraine should not adhere to Minsk because they were done forcibly... first of all, Ukraine was defended by Germany and France and nobody even mentioned that Ukraine is being forced on anything, they all said they are looking for meaningful solution to the crisis, and second, you can always claim that any agreement has been done forcibly and nullify it, not very smart excuses.

[@SA-sf2cq]

I haven’t watched yet, but I know Aaron Mate is going to win this panel easily.

[@adolf.gas9]

AARON is spot on❤❤

[@messemlali6906]

From the beginning when i saw aaron mate i knew those poor Ukrainian opposition guests don't stand a Chance he knows the facts he defend his opinion with facts not propaganda I feel sorry for the Ukrainians but if this is the way they all feel and believe about the conflict with Russia then they are doomed

[@simonlaonda9697]

Aaron Maté is doing great independent digging journalism. Facts and reason will always prevail propaganda.

[@Yesai-cj2mt]

Aaron independent mind hv heard your fair and balanced analysis... You are not Russian but you say things as they are keep it up it's not easy to stand up for the truth these days..

[@TheRealBillBob]

Why would you mention he's not Russian?

[@zharkoo]

Extremly unfair debate, Aaron was given barely 5min to talk, while these two deluded clowns talked for most of the show... Why Al Jezeera?

[@patricklarsen8078]

Why do you have so high thoughts of Al Jazeera

[@zharkoo]

@@patricklarsen8078 it's not in their interest to defend western puppet Ukraine

[@elmaestroco]

And he still came on top. I think 5 min was even too long, he needed 3.

[@edhenry5915]

Aaron is a true journalist, Respect!!

[@Darkmire]

The only rational, nuanced voice was Aaron Mate. The other 2 guests were sensationalistic and propagandistic, using one-sided, selective or skewed data.

[@YankeeSkeptic]

Much agreed. The diplomatic hurdle is those 2 guests represent the stubborn perspective that will result in Ukraine completely destroyed and generations of Ukrainians killed. For what? Their unwillingness to declare neutrality and to not join NATO??? Their unwillingness not to recognize that some Ukrainians may want to ally with Russia??? The US and NATO are exploiting Ukraine's stubborness, not to preserve "democracy", but to degrade the Russian military. (even that is a dubious goal.) But they keep holding the NATO carrot just out of Ukraine's reach.

[@BannHammer]

Aaron did very well! The US/Ukraine talking points are falling flat.

[@RaviRathore7]

Aaron Mate is a genius journalist.

[@maxryker8783]

Great job Aaron

[@presidentjesus5061]

When does the "visiting" Ukrainian professor sign up to fight on the front lines?

[@radebatinica5545]

Lesia dear, Your arguments are weak. Best to change the line of work.

[@TheRealBillBob]

🤣🤣

[@gordonreed9687]

Nice job Aaron under difficult circumstances, also Good work by Marc Lamont Hill

[@rollingssoni5496]

Ukraine could sweet talk the people in eastern Ukraine to remain part of Ukraine rather than bombing them, people hate to be forced

[@falcatafalcata1617]

So true ❤

[@TheRealBillBob]

That woman represents just how nutty Ukrainians are.🙄🙄

[@wallenbergphoto]

It's Russians who have the upper hand, NOT the people in the eastern parts.

[@andresamplonius315]

Its way tooo late for that. There's no going back, all russian areas stay with the Russian Federation.

[@millermiller4661]

This host is great. Sticks to his questions and does not tolerate guests twisting the questions. Great job.

[@tgijukebox3401]

Yeah this guy is slick kept it moving the whole time

[@benjaminleme2914]

Aaron stated more powerfully and clarity.

[@tmz_worldwide]

Aaron is the only one there not getting a paycheck from the West

[@ViennaGuy2000]

If you don't include the moderator, I agree. Al Jazeera is based in Qatar. If I'm not mistaken, the voice of the moderator (I was only listening) was Mark Lamont Hill, who lost his CNN contract after speaking just a tiny bit of truth about the situation in Israel in 2018.

[@waynetables6414]

@@ViennaGuy2000 Al Jazeera English is worse than other iterations of Al Jazeera in other languages from my experience.. in general AJ kind of suck, but they are useful on Palestine.. they are a giant corporation with their own biases.. but when compared to western corporate media they look good in contrast.. like you said, they are in Qatar and their corporate interests don't all necessarily align with the narratives of U.S., UK, Germany corporate media.. but they actually do fall in line with other fake western narratives many of which pertaining to Russia and China.. and the reason for that is that Qatars own history is one that is intertwined with the British East India company and the House of Saud.. many of the Gulf states are not organic civilization-states like Persia/Iran or Ottoman/Turkey or other historical civilizations of the Middle East.. modern countries like Saudi Arabia, Israel, Kuwait are fake civilizations for all intents and purposes and their borders were carved out by outside forces and turned into nation-states for colonial considerations.. It's not an accident the poorest places in the world are balkanized into tiny little nation-states at war with each other, it goes back to the British divide and conquer tact.. and those "countries" have been ruled by western puppet monarchs to control resources for centuries. The middle east is populated with people who have governments that don't represent their interests.

[@tmz_worldwide]

@@ViennaGuy2000 The moderator has a home in the US, has American Bank accounts. He knows he can't say too much

[@falcatafalcata1617]

If these two Ukrainians can represent all Ukrainians’ understanding of the war, Ukraine is slowly committing suicide! There is no help!😅

[@-Faze-]

If those two arerepresenting Ukraine, Ukraine is doomed of any existance ever

[@TheRealBillBob]

Exactly.

[@kayla5381]

Aaron carried!!!

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

Thank you Aaron Maté. Independent journalists with journalistic integrity are the heroes of our time.

[@she825]

Aaron Mate debunked all the fallacies! He was the superstar on the panel!!!

[@gerokeeffe4014]

Excellent contribution from Aaron Maté

[@nanoo1988]

Why do I trust the observers account (Aron mate) over the opinion of a politician with invested interests/agendas (eg. A Parliament member) 😅😅😅🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@kusotarre]

Aaron probably didn't want to open this bag of worms, but it's almost certain that the protesters gunned down during Maidan were killed by snipers who were part of the fascist groups behind the coup. Ivan Katchanovski has a really great, peer-reviewed paper on this, laying out what seems to be very strong evidence. If you search for 'Ivan Katchanovski maidan sniper', you can find a copy of it. As to the rest of the interview, yet another example of Hoo-Rah-Ukraine types being quite deranged. Announcing that Russia is going to march on Berlin a second time is way out in crank territory, and should have been laughed at. Absurd.

[@luismlmestrado]

Ivan Katchanovsky's body of work is impressive. Now that's a true Ukrainian political scientist media should regard. That's why Ukrainian and Western propaganda has been trying desperately to cancel him.

[@simonlaonda9697]

A similar sniper attack were done in Venezuela during the 2002 coup-attempt also backed/orchestrated by Washington. They tried to frame it on the sitting president too, but the evidence pointed to the right-wing coup plotters. Color revolution, so obvious.

[@taniakrivorot]

No, russians do not go to Berlin. But they want to make the path from Moscow to Kaliningrad through Lithuania and Poland; they want to take Moldova; they want to take the part of Estonia... way not?

[@kusotarre]

No one in the world wants to be stuck governing Poles or Lithuanians. You don't have anything worth the headache.@@taniakrivorot

[@taniakrivorot]

@@kusotarre what do You know about the Suwalki gap? I'm from Lithuania with ukrainian roots, but grew up in the russian culture, graduated russian school. I think I know the political issues of the post-sovet region better than that Aaron.

[@erichnk]

The shrill jingoism of Lesia, as a member Ukraine's purged parliament was more or less expected, but Ilya's pathetic echoing of it made a mockery of "political science". Only Aaron speaks from real facts and makes logical sense...and actually proposes a rational and humane solution for Ukraine. Let these two champions of endless war go to the front and save a couple of 60 year old conscripts from the meat-grinder this US proxy war has become. Their rhetoric will hardly be missed!

[@MathUDX]

One thing to understand about political "science" is that, much like the profession of economics, it's a massive hodgepodge of "schools of thought" with no real pretensions as a whole towards being a rigorous hypothesis-tested discipline. In any real science all these disparate schools eventually would get debunked as their theories are subjected to falsification, fall out of favor, and there would only be one school left standing with the most accurate predictive power about the world. But that's not how a politically-driven pseudoscience functions. There are some standout figures who try to develop theories that can actually predict the world and be confronted with evidence, but as a whole political science is largely about one group with a political agenda pitting their professors against the professors supported by another group with a political agenda.

[@zharkoo]

She says "there is robust support for Ukraine", the question is WHERE ? In washington and its stooges, nowhere else.

[@simonlaonda9697]

unfortunately there are a bunch of propagandized and brainwashed Europeans/Westerners that support that USA/NATO-proxy war.

[@jennybleasdale1815]

UK stooges.

[@chriswatchingponies9877]

You will have to negotiate at one point. Until then, tens of thousands more will die.

[@Skelf71]

Aaron brilliant, calm measured and factual responses.

[@bobirnasimov9421]

What an interviewer ! Standing ovation

[@TepurangaHeremaia-ce4qe]

Right on, Aaron.

[@wealthychef]

Good highlight discussion. My sympathies are with Aaron Mate as he is a lights out top notch journalist and not partisan in this discussion. I'd like to see a longer version with more attention on the details.

[@Naia-x2d]

with marc as the pro-establishment host "debating" aaron minus the two hysterical propaganda mouthpieces

[@wealthychef]

@@Naia-x2d It's tough to find a non-hysterical supporter of the western position. Everything seems hyperbolized and lacking nuance or historical context. It's just "Putin is insane and evil" all day long.

[@Faceless166]

it's impossible to debate reasonably with the Ukrainian side, they live in some invented reality and speak only the propaganda language.

[@boltedmeal8182]

Thank you Aaron for your clarity and sharpness against the Western propaganda!

[@MagsN4]

if agreements made between countries under force or threat of force are not valid, does this mean that agreements made after Germany's surrender in ww1 and ww2 and Japan's surrender in ww2 didnt count?

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

Zelensky, Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements. Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time.

[@dvg87]

Another fact against the Ukrainian counter-narrative is that the Minsk accords where no just rectified by the UN but where also held within the Normandy format, i.e. France and Germany were committed in implementing those accords. There's wasn't any pressure from Russia for them to agree to this.

[@nabstavus1289]

Who is this Aaron guy ,wow he just lifted the wool from my eyes so all along we have been misled about the Ukraine war .

[@parvizt2937]

I'm wondering is she working for Fox News or CNN same lip service😂.

[@davidchunkyonion]

Excellent moderation by Hill. I look forward to CNN inviting Aaron Mate to present his contrarian views (which happen to be correct).

[@TheRealBillBob]

If they did invite him, it would only be to try to shut him down.

[@luismlmestrado]

One objective rational and fact-based standpoint versus one member of a parliament that can only be there because her party wasn't banned by Ukraine's "democracy 2014-2024" (19 parties were forbidden) and one political scientist that is a visiting scholar in an American university. I rest my case and so should Al Jazeera on your reporting of the Ukraine-Russia war. You are doing a great work on Gaza, learn from there because the rules of propaganda have been applied just in the same way, with the difference that the western world shut down views coming from the Donbass and Crimean peoples after the inception of Ukraine's "Ministry of Truth" as The Guardian called it in Dec 2014, but they couldn't do the same with Gazans.

[@martinmagnusson1889]

With the mindset of the Ukrainian politican after 1 more year when the war enter its fourth. Ukraine will have lost even more land, and ppl, and the situation being even worse. It will be harder for aid to get pass US, and EU parlaments. This is a non-sustainable strategy. It is hard to watch.

[@Amaking10000]

I support any country against Western Imperialists' agenda

[@nickdiochnos3509]

Aaron acknowledges a Ukraine of plurality. One looking to the east and another to the west the other two guests only see Ukraine as a homogenous nation.

[@nikosvault]

Well, Russia is about to chance all that ain't they?

[@brightonboka3013]

😅😅😅the greatest illusion is to think that the whole world is behind Ukraine, no it's America n Europe behind Ukraine and they're not the whole world madam, put your facts straight

[@patrickowens8768]

Adding to that, it’s only the governments of America and Europe that are for Ukraine. The majority of citizens are against continuing war and for negotiation leading to peace.

[@dvg87]

And a great bulk of the population in the West doesn't support this war either. Many in Europe want to reach an agreement with Russia and end the war.

[@Algamishakard1920]

Imagine

[@taniakrivorot]

​@@patrickowens8768ukraine should give to Russia cities Odesa, Kharkiv, Kyev, after that the negotiation is possible. Are You agree with Putin? Do You think that after that stratagy Putin will not assault Estonia? or make the path to Kaliningrad?

[@cherrypoptart2001]

realistically the a lot of countries were pressured into being against russia's war in Ukraine, a lot of countries wanted to remain Neutral or complete abstention . Its a bit ironic now that the majority of the US public are the ones now against supporting Kiev

[@VictorSchelsinger]

The lady talks about a revolution of dignity! Wow! Dignity given to them by Vicky Neuland! That must really by some dignity! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Armat-72]

I remember in 2024 then Ukraine banned Russian language….

[@jennybleasdale1815]

I have lived in a country that tried to ban a language.........NEVER works. The US knows NOTHING about other countries. Before this war in Ukraine I bet most people in the US didn't know where it was!

[@living_peace]

The Russian and Ukrainian sides should negotiate with each other to establish peace I ask the West to support peace

[@ausername8699]

Russia should not get a single piece of land in these negotiations. They should be returned to 1991 borders.

[@LjubicaServaas]

Boris Johnson: "Not gonna happen, chief"

[@psbarrow]

Ukraine has nothing to negotiate with. Unconditional surrender now is about their best hope for even remaining as a rump state.

[@coalescence6133]

​@@ausername8699I understand many hold this position, but I would suggest setting idealism aside. How likely is it that an eventual negotiated settlement will see a return to 1991 territorial borders, and, if a reasonable observer concludes that it is very unlikely, how many more lives must be sacrificed before more practical negotiation is prioritized?

[@Universe198025]

@ame8699 Mister, why don't you visit, let's say Crimea for yourself, it's quite safe now, and decide for yourself what majority of its population is strongly considering themselves as Russians by blood, by culture, by soul, by language, by conscience and etc. Make your own survey, and I can guarantee you that you'll end up in somewhere 85-90% of people strongly supporting their historical reunification with their lost in 1991 motherland. And then ask that question to yourself, who are you to tell those people, that were deprived of their homeland in 1991, how they should live, behave and raise their children ( don't you know that even the military oath's bound servicemen to Ukraine deployed in Crimea didn't make a single shot during that 2014 spring in Ukraine, fully realizing what was the real mood and feeling of local population towards Russia as their real motherland ) Don't you believe anymore in democratic procedures, or in UN charter that tells you that any people have their right to determine their own future by holding a referendum?

[@G_truPrGrSv]

A. Maté = Truth-teller Brigade !

[@bubavaal4888]

AARON you're right in both sense ❤❤❤

[@billappledorf]

Ukraine's declaration of independence when the USSR disbanded in 1991 stipulated Ukraine's geopolitically neutrality. In 2004, Viktor Yanukovych, who was committed to upholding Ukrainian neutrality, ran for the presidency of Ukraine against Viktor Yushchenko, who favored Ukraine joining NATO. Mr. Yanukovych won the election in the second round of voting, but the U.S. orchestrated an exhaustively documented color revolution known as the Orange Revolution that prevented Mr. Yanukovych from assuming the presidency -- this is in 2004, ten years prior to his being violently overthrow in the U.S.-backed Maidan coup -- and in an illegal third round of voting, Mr. Yushchenko, the pro-NATO candidate, won the presidency. In 2010, Mr. Yanukovych won the presidency of Ukraine a second time. After he assumed office, he succeeded in signing into law a bill he submitted to Ukraine's rada reasserting Ukraine's neutrality as originally declared upon Ukraine's independence from the USSR in 1991.

[@coalescence6133]

Well put

[@jennybleasdale1815]

When is the US going to learn?

[@peterlavelle800]

3 against 1 and Aaron still won!

[@siriusman6169]

Lesia last arguments is a double edge swords, she saying that " Russia defeating Ukraine would allow it to station Missiles close to NATO boarders" the same can also be said of Ukraine joining NATO,.

[@ronskullie9380]

Russia didn't guarantee or excepted an illegitimate Kiev regime.

[@zakariyeyahye5566]

“I said let them think how to do it with dignity. There are options if there is a will. Up until now, there has been the uproar and screaming about inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia on the battlefield. Now, they are apparently coming to realize that it is difficult to achieve it, if possible at all. In my opinion, it is impossible by definition, it is never going to happen. It seems to me that now those who are in power in the West have come to realize this as well. If so, if the realization has set in, they have to think what to do next. We are ready for this dialogue.” - Vladimir Putin

[@ThePolak700]

Which planet is she from? Democratic Ukraine? Whats the opposition? None?.... hmmm. Plus people from EX Ukrainian republics want to be in Ukraine......thats why they seperated in 2014 and got bombed by Ukrainians ever since. Cramia was Ukrainian? since when, it was always Russian, few times in history Turks had it, but not for long. Plus remember that just before 2022 Russian invasion, Ukraiine goverment was deemed as most corrupt goverment in Europe by EU. Maybe thats why EU didn't want to take Ukraine and if they wouldn't sell all the weapons west is giving them, they could stand a litle bit better chance against Russians. Now, war is over, Ukraine is not winning as their propaganda says, they are on the virge of colapse. Its done. Their goverment just wants to get as much cash as they can before they call it quits.

[@falcatafalcata1617]

In 2024, Zelensky was questioned in Ukraine. In order to preserve his power, he even canceled the presidential election!

[@NafoDato]

It is irresponsible and untrue to spread misinformation about the situation in Ukraine. The people of Ukraine have the right to determine their own future without interference or false narratives. The conflict in Ukraine is a result of Russian aggression and illegal occupation, not because of any inherent flaws in the Ukrainian government. The Ukrainian government may have had issues with corruption in the past, but that does not justify or excuse Russian aggression and illegal invasion. The focus should be on finding a peaceful resolution to the conflict and supporting the people of Ukraine in their efforts to rebuild and secure their sovereignty.

[@psbarrow]

@@NafoDato You guys really should do stand-up full-time, your comedy is too precious to be wasted on failed propaganda in KZbin posts.

[@NafoDato]

@@psbarrow Thanks for the backhanded compliment! But hey, we like to think of our KZbin posts as our own brand of comedy gold mixed with a healthy dose of truth bombs. Who says we can't do both stand-up and educate the masses at the same time? Plus, we'd miss out on all the fun of triggering all those keyboard warriors if we went full-time stand-up! 😉

[@psbarrow]

@@NafoDato LOL, good one, "educate the masses", just like the clowns who educate a circus audience on how to juggle tenpins. Got any more "truth bombs"?

[@borispetrovchich3141]

Bravo Aaron !!

[@jennybleasdale1815]

SUUBTITLES for deaf people

[@ZeljkoCipris]

Please click on CC (Closed Captions) for subtitles.

[@jennybleasdale1815]

@@ZeljkoCipris I did this. But it didn't work!

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

Russia has a winning military strategy, Ukraine and nato have a PR strategy. The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

[@16252]

Winning strategy, hmmm... 'Russia's four-month offensive on the destroyed Donetsk town of Avdiivka, in eastern Ukraine, cost more lives than the 10 years of war Moscow waged under the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, new figures suggest. About 17,000 Russian soldiers were killed between October 10, 2023, when Russia launched its assault on the Donetsk city, and February 17, 2024, said Dmytro Lykhovii, spokesperson for Ukraine's Tavria group of forces covering Avdiivka.' Newsweek, Feb 19th.

[@Faceless166]

@@16252 so your are saying that the heavily marketed Ukrainian summer offensive was the winning strategy?

[@Meeko2689]

Aaron spoke great

[@talibali166]

Aaron, opened the truth like its supposed to be. Thank you Aaron

[@EngraversNearMe]

ukraine and democracy lol gimme a break!

[@patrickmwansa6124]

Aaron is the realistic here.

[@slobodapp7790]

Bravo Aaron

[@ZereayM]

Phenomenal work Aaron Mate, and thank you Marc Lamont-Hill for bringing on at least 1 rational voice. The picture they paint of Ukraine is so biased, they’re unable to separate their feelings from fact. You should at least give equal time if two voices are for a position and attacking the third guest he should have more time to respond, but he performed admirably with this handicap.

[@mbulelontseke5114]

Thank you Aaron

[@criticalcookie2579]

Glad to see Aaron on.

[@zakariyeyahye5566]

“I know one can say it is our mistake, it was us who intensified the situation and decided to put an end to the war that started in 2014 in Donbas, as I have already said, by means of weapons. Let me get back to further in history, I already told you this, we were just discussing it. Let us go back to 1991 when we were promised that NATO would not be expanded, to 2008 when the doors to NATO opened, to the Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine declaring Ukraine a neutral state. Let us go back to the fact that NATO and US military bases started to appear on the territory of Ukraine, creating threats for us. Let us go back to coup d'état in Ukraine in 2014. It is pointless though, isn’t it? We may go back and forth endlessly. But they stopped negotiations. Is it a mistake? Yes. Correct it. We are ready. What else is needed?.” - Vladimir Putin

[@petepictures]

Aron did a very good job, Thank you. Its kinda funny an American Jurnalist speaking on defence of Rusiya, well done.

[@alejandradukrodkin5551]

This lady is very misinformed @

[@sezard252]

This lady knows the truth, but she is very deceitful

[@Naia-x2d]

@@sezard252 *minsinforming

[@greatman5836]

Very interesting from Al-Jazeera I like this video, we know how this started 👍🏽

[@ausername8699]

Most of what he said is a lie or an exaggeration. He's spewing Russian state propaganda.

[@7srchoed]

Very good thoughtful discussion

[@zakariyeyahye5566]

“We prepared a huge document in Istanbul, Turkey, that was initialed by the head of the Ukrainian delegation. He affixed his signature to some of the provisions, not to all of it. He put his signature and then he himself said: “We were ready to sign it and the war would have been over long ago, eighteen months ago. However, Prime Minister Boris Johnson came, talked us out of it and we missed that chance.” Well, you missed it, you made a mistake, let them get back to that, that is all. Why do we have to bother ourselves and correct somebody else’s mistakes?.” - Vladimir Putin

[@alejandradukrodkin5551]

Crimea has always been Russian.

[@MosmMAli]

No Crimea was khanate of Crimea and previous Soviet leader Klitschko ceded it to Ukraine

[@alejandradukrodkin5551]

@MosmMAli Yes, sorry. I meant during the Russia reasent history. It was part of the Ottoman Empire before being part of the RUSSIAN Empire (it was the favorite place of the Russian aristocracy vacations). Then, it was part of the Soviet Union within the Russian State. During Nikita Krushev, Crimea was given to Ukraine for administrative reasons (only) in the beginning 1953 (?).

[@RL-pe5cz]

G-d bless you Aaron - bravo

[@felipe-vibor]

Thank you for Aaron mate

[@rahimamin4967]

A beggar is not free😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@zharkoo]

When she said "Ukrain does not obey orders from US and UK" the debate turned into a comedy show.

[@petepictures]

Most of the world doesn’t take the side of Ukraine , for sure.

[@jennybleasdale1815]

AAron well done.

[@boubacarbarry224]

Aaron is the goat

[@buck13horn]

Disappointing that Aaron could not bring himself to defend Russia's SMO (Special Military Operation), which was was launched not to start a war with Ukraine but to stop the Ukrainian coup government's 8-year war on the ethnic Russian population of the Donbas. Otherwise, he did a good job of countering the imperial propaganda of not only the other two guests but the host as well.

[@waynetables6414]

People get tripped up on the "Is vs Ought" dynamic too much in these type of conversations. Talking about the world as it is Vs. talking about the world as we subjectively wished it could be are two entirely different conversations and only one of those conversations is useful and productive in the context of being asked to diagnose how we got here and where we are going... which is what the prompt of this debate is supposed to be.

[@yeetskeet7234]

Every Ukrainian supported the 2014 coup d'eta = every American supported January 6th 💯

[@tarakadir9259]

Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤

[@dixztube]

Good to see Marc landing well

[@thabisothabane3800]

Aaron is logical

[@zakariyeyahye5566]

“Actions are needed. Words matter but Actions are needed in order to save Ukraine, and actually in order to save an entire civilization, mainly the Western civilization; the Free World. We have to frame this war [Russia-Ukraine war] in that context. This war is Not just a war between Ukraine and Russia. This is the war that criminal Putin waged against Nato; the Western civilization, and actually against Humanity.” - Arseniy Yatsenyuk, former PM of Ukraine

[@zakariyeyahye5566]

“Ukrainians are dying Everyday as a nation. We want the war to End as soon as possible. We have No more strength left; neither physical nor mental.” - Olena Oleksandriya, an Elderly Ukrainian resident in the Port City of Odessa

[@Mrkillerkane]

Good debate. Aaron won..

[@abelewnetu1502]

Marc lamont hill 👍👏

[@mykhel]

The funny thing is the first question. What is conflicting narrative when Ukraine Soldier retreat? meaning they are losing, And clearly cannot win.

[@PlanetASE]

RUZZia is supposed to be a military superpower but Kiev and Ukraine is still standing 2 years after Putin's 2 week SMO was thwarted

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

Zelensky didn't try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity. In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of people were burned alive). Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas. If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened. The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy. Zelensky, Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements. Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time. Russia's national security was compromised once nato began to expand eastwards. Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining nato was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns. 20th September, 2021. Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO NATO is not a defensive alliance. Nato illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter). We should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster? Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest. Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland. Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens-theirs will hide in the basements”. Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre. The whole world needs to know about it. Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country. Ukraine has a hit list. They target artists, journalists and ordinary citizens. Hundreds of children are on this list. (13 year old Faina Savenkova was placed on this list.) Pink Floyd's Roger Waters is on this list. Jimmy Dore (American stand-up comedian, podcaster) and Aaron Maté (Canadian writer and journalist) are on this list. R.I.P. Gonzalo Lira. "I cannot accept the way my son has died. He was tortured, extorted, incommunicado for 8 months and 11 days and the US Embassy did nothing to help my son. The responsibility of this tragedy is the dictator Zelensky with the concurrence of a senile American President, Joe Biden" - Lira's father There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas. (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence). The azov troops trapped in the azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present. Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but azov would not allow the civilians to leave. Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) RIP. The first terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims). The second terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter. I have done a lot of research and it took me a long time to write this comment. I have stated a lot of facts and I have given my honest opinion. I have provided a brief summary of events that took place. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written. Hopefully someone will write an UNBIASED book, stating facts and allowing the readers to form their own judgments. Everything I said can be fact checked and verified.

[@Mike-xn8yt]

Ukraine took the NATO Pill and lost. US taxpayers pay this woman's salary now but not for long. Fighting is as old as human civilization, we need to return to the days of those who wage it must actually fight in it.