Russian Model 1828 Musket from the Battle of Inkerman

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@justacrow9847
@justacrow9847 3 жыл бұрын
166 years ago a red coat took that gun as a trophy, he had no idea more than a century and half later one day people from all continents will be looking at his gun and talk about it at the same time.
@ArsLanHGunner
@ArsLanHGunner 3 жыл бұрын
This is mind-blowing.
@coopdawgtv7889
@coopdawgtv7889 3 жыл бұрын
crazy man.. just the fact that the musket survived blows me away
@jakelynch5113
@jakelynch5113 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah quite an impressive concept
@Dreska_
@Dreska_ 3 жыл бұрын
on the 'internet', whatever that is. On a 'computer'.
@roadsweeper1
@roadsweeper1 3 жыл бұрын
and, just maybe, a long distant relative of that redcoat, is watching this video too...
@ArifRWinandar
@ArifRWinandar 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you interject the history speech with illustrations of what you're talking about.
@MarkVrem
@MarkVrem 3 жыл бұрын
its nice.... I actually never had the perspective understanding that the Crimean War happened right before the U.S Civil War.....Adding some war exhaustion to the European Powers, as the US Civil War plays out.
@TheHalflingLad
@TheHalflingLad 3 жыл бұрын
​@@MarkVrem I heard that a number of physicians from the US actually happened to work in field hospitals during the Crimean War, and that experience played a role when many of them later had to do the same during the Civil War. Those two wars propelled medical science quite a bit forward.
@scoutrifle6827
@scoutrifle6827 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is essentially a master's class on firearms design and history, but is somehow great fun. Ian is a genius at presenting information.
@wuhr2790
@wuhr2790 3 жыл бұрын
And very unique.
@thomasa5619
@thomasa5619 3 жыл бұрын
You mean a normal class on firearms design and history wouldn’t be great and fun?
@Kosmos6171
@Kosmos6171 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Tula and every day I drive past the factory where this gun was produced. The plant was founded by Peter the Great in 1712 and continues to operate. This is the oldest arms factory in Russia. It is interesting to see a gun that was produced at our factory almost 200 years ago, went through the Crimean War and was taken as a trophy by a British soldier ...
@gfarrell80
@gfarrell80 3 жыл бұрын
Just read a little history on Tula. Looks like Tula was one of the lucky ones in WW2, the Germans reached you but did not take or destroy the city. And you have Tolstoy's home just a few miles away! Looks like a beautiful city, salute from the other side of the world!
@gerokron3412
@gerokron3412 3 жыл бұрын
Well, 200 years ago it was not "your" factory, my friend. It was in it´s entirenty, purpose and products the property of the Czar, Emperor of all Russians and existed to support his case.
@juongjaejong
@juongjaejong 3 жыл бұрын
@@gfarrell80 I think they evacuated everything they could so by the time the Germans reached the place there was nothing left to take or wreck, anyway
@sergeireischel1610
@sergeireischel1610 3 жыл бұрын
Russian small arms weren't smoothbore-only Rifled guns percentage in the frontline units growed from 4% at the early stage of war up to 13% near its end - surprisingly, mostly they were Minié ball rifles. Main reason there weren't more is that high command restricted their supply to counter a possible french attack through Prussia and Poland, wich never happened
@liverpoolirish208
@liverpoolirish208 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbuchholz9594 The Russian Army tried to compensate by issuing Nessler balls instead of round balls. Now that would make for an interesting video...
@rintinfin4440
@rintinfin4440 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbuchholz9594 Biden is President?
@rintinfin4440
@rintinfin4440 3 жыл бұрын
@Beth Schroeder Yup, exactly what I've been saying has been the plan from day one.
@williamjackson5942
@williamjackson5942 3 жыл бұрын
@@rintinfin4440 You are both very silly people.
@nc_classics9767
@nc_classics9767 3 жыл бұрын
David Buchholz No time to resist all the Legislation that may come up
@СильвиоМануэль-ь4п
@СильвиоМануэль-ь4п 3 жыл бұрын
TULA GREAT CITY:)TULA FROM LOVE♡THIS CHANEL.(sory, my inglish very very bad:)I have subtitors on russian:)
@MrPanos2000
@MrPanos2000 3 жыл бұрын
Ι own one of these muskets. The barrel thickness close to the muzzle is incredibly thin. I found out from a British contemporary source that Russian doctrine led to excessive maintenance and polishing of the bore to the point were barrels became dangerously thin in many instances. They also used clay bullets for training. Needless to say I never fired it and dont intent to ever do so
@blackleaf_yt
@blackleaf_yt 3 жыл бұрын
Wise choice. Also, if you were ever to try it, I'd recommend just doing 20 grain blanks
@redram5150
@redram5150 3 жыл бұрын
I never expected to see “Russian” and “excessive maintenance” in the same sentence
@НиколайКупцов-ю5о
@НиколайКупцов-ю5о 3 жыл бұрын
there is an old Russian novel "The Tale of Cross-eyed Lefty from Tula and the Steel Flea" where Russian genius craftsman goes to England and when he returns, he tries persuade the Russian military command to stop cleaning guns with crushed brick, but he is ignored, and that was one of the reasons, why Russian lost Crimean war
@GeneralAdvance
@GeneralAdvance 3 жыл бұрын
@@redram5150 imperial Russian leadership had ridiculously high standards for aesthetics, even in comparison to the other nations of the time the Lords and generals seemed to have a genuine belief that the better looking army wins.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын
That's honestly such a sad thing. Edit for not sounding like an Alzheimer's patient...
@redram5150
@redram5150 3 жыл бұрын
Place a missed connections ad on Craigslist Crimea for that barrel band. It’ll show up
@GIITW.5OKC
@GIITW.5OKC 3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell if you're making a joke or not..
@jmh8605
@jmh8605 3 жыл бұрын
My Great-Great-Great Grandfather was in the Grenadier Guards at Inkerman defending the Sandbag Battery, he didn't survive the Crimean War but this is fascinating, it's not often people cover this particular war but I appreciate this Ian. Addendum - the majority of British troops at Inkerman were actually armed with P51 Minie rifles rather than the '53 Enfield, those guns only reached the Crimea toward the end of the war.
@wswaine
@wswaine 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers for this. My great great grandfather died at the first battle on the 26th October (although truth be told it was a skirmish beating back an Russian exploratory attack rather than a proper battle). His troop commander, Lieutenant John Conolly, was awarded a Victoria Cross for the action.
@ВикторКулик-щ3г
@ВикторКулик-щ3г 11 ай бұрын
Я выпью рюмку водки за твоего прапрадеда! Здоровья и процветания твоей семье!
@kippamip
@kippamip 3 жыл бұрын
Ah the battle of Inkerman, my regiment, now called the Queen's Royal Hussars, would take part in this battle, and the charge of the light brigade. I have visited the Valley of death such a beautiful place surrounded by vineyards today. The port of Balaklava is also beautiful. I don't imagine it would of been a nice death being shot by one of those.
@5anjuro
@5anjuro 3 жыл бұрын
The sense of outdated weapons technology and maintenance practices and the overall experience of the Crimean war defeat made it into the Russian vernacular... In Nikolay Leskov's classical story Levsha (Lefty), set prior to the war, the titular character, a self-taught innovator is obsessed with improving the state of affairs, and attempts to communicate to the Tsar that "the Englishmen don't clean their guns with crushed brick". Or something like that.
@flawlesstheory5111
@flawlesstheory5111 3 жыл бұрын
You're right, that's an actual piece of that story
@TheHalflingLad
@TheHalflingLad 3 жыл бұрын
"Tell the Emperor that the English do not clean their guns with brick-dust. Let them not clean their guns so among us; otherwise-God preserve us from war-they will not be fit to fire." But Count Tchernyscheff shouted at him: "Don't meddle in what is none of your business-we have Generals in Russia to attend to that!" And so they did not tell the Emperor, and this mode of cleaning continued down to the very date of the Crimean campaign." It's a sad book. And it portrays the dynamic between innovators and the authorities pretty accurately.
@psychosculptor
@psychosculptor 3 жыл бұрын
Сам то в это веришь? zen.yandex.ru/media/rufirearmsclub/chistili-li-v-rossii-rujia-kirpichom-5c3dd9abf7c3db00ac8a3c37
@5anjuro
@5anjuro 3 жыл бұрын
@@psychosculptor I was referring to the contemporary social commentary by N.Leskov, not on whether precisely this practice actually existed.
@flawlesstheory5111
@flawlesstheory5111 3 жыл бұрын
@@psychosculptor друже, ежу ведь понятно, что это художественный вымысел, под которым маскируется посыл "Высшие чины в армии - узколобые дурни"
@eizol568
@eizol568 3 жыл бұрын
Just what a need. A bedtime story about a ye olde conflict.
@jonminer9891
@jonminer9891 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Ian. The long smoothbore barrel was exemplified by this musket. Last of the breed, rather than best of the breed I suppose. Good storytelling and explanation. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
@matthewspencer5086
@matthewspencer5086 3 жыл бұрын
November the Fifth is always an auspicious date for British troops and fireworks! A substantial proportion of the "crack British troops" involved at Inkerman were a naval brigade under Captain William Peel. One of the several acts of extreme bravery in the Crimean war that added up to his VC, was to draw his sword (sorry, gun-lovers) and help the officers of the Grenadier Guards defend their colours, so the Russian troops must have had their moments during the battle for such a thing to be necessary. Perhaps Peel was compensating for those who might feel that a Prime Minister's son perhaps might not be pulling his weight, but he did tend towards lunatic-level bravery. He used to live in the "Swiss Cottage" at the entrance to the Sandy Lodge nature reserve and RSPB headquarters in East Bedfordshire. He owned the whole estate, but probably couldn't adjust to much more living space than you'd find in a warship of the period.
@albatross8361
@albatross8361 3 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Spencer, I suppose you already know this, but having survived all that, and being wounded during the Indian Mutiny, Captain Peel died of smallpox at the age of 33. He had commended his crew members Lieutenant Young and Able Seaman William Hall (a black Canadian) 'for their gallant conduct' at Lucknow', and they too received VCs, as did Midshipman Edward St. John Daniel. I don't know if that is some kind of VC record for the crew of of a single ship, but I can't help thinking that under Peel's command HMS Shannon was probably considered 'a happy ship'.
@matthewspencer5086
@matthewspencer5086 3 жыл бұрын
@@albatross8361 He also commissioned the building of a light railway between Sandy and Potton in East Bedfordshire. This was a sensible minimum cost local solution to a local problem of moving goods and people between two adjacent towns, but was never really built to be anything more. A generation later it was joined up with lots of other local light railways and some heavy industrial railways to produce the Varsity Line, between Oxford and Cambridge. This closed in the 1960s, because there was no affordable upgrade path to take modern (safer) rolling stock etc. Basically, investment was withheld because the long-distance cross-country route had been concocted with minimal investment in the first place and it would have been very costly to make it all a modern railway and the evidence of need was there, but it wasn't great. They are now planning to reopen an "East West Route" but with a new section between Bedford and Cambridge which goes to the North of Sandy. But most of the rest of the line will be the same mixture of different types of railway cobbled together as before. The new section will cross the flood plain at Tempsford where the rivers Ivel and Great Ouse meet. I am sure that Captain Peel will be looking down on us with interest as this is accomplished.
@albatross8361
@albatross8361 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewspencer5086 I hope the line works out ok. If it does, perhaps we can call it the Peel Line.
@kyleclark4449
@kyleclark4449 3 жыл бұрын
He fired his musket, but Eddie ran him through.
@Star_Lancer
@Star_Lancer 3 жыл бұрын
OST of this video: Iron Maiden - "The Trooper".
@luisnunes2010
@luisnunes2010 3 жыл бұрын
Up the Irons!
@Gladiator34B
@Gladiator34B 3 жыл бұрын
You take my life but I’ll take yours too!
@felixstieger9039
@felixstieger9039 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gladiator34B you’ll fire your musket but I run through!
@pauloluciomachadodebrito8107
@pauloluciomachadodebrito8107 3 жыл бұрын
@@felixstieger9039 So when you're waiting for the next attack
@Deilwynna
@Deilwynna 3 жыл бұрын
@@pauloluciomachadodebrito8107 You'd better stand, there's no turning back
@johncashwell1024
@johncashwell1024 3 жыл бұрын
The Crimean War was the 1st major war of the new "Information Era". War correspondents came into the limelight for the first time and photography was used to show the reality and filth and horror of warfare, especially of that time.
@kino_enjoyer
@kino_enjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
It's also the war that gave birth to military medicine. Thanks Pirogov
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 3 жыл бұрын
It was very controversial in the UK for that same reason - supposedly convicts in British prisons were given better rations than soldiers on the front line. Florence Nightingale made her name revamping battlefield nursing during that war. I learn from the internet that a handful of participants survived until the 1930s, which is striking - the last British sailor who served in the war lived until 1939.
@johncashwell1024
@johncashwell1024 3 жыл бұрын
@@AshleyPomeroy That's exactly correct. The BBC documentary I watched discussed how the near real time news from the front was causing support at home dwindle. I find the Crimean War to be a fascinating subject; from the new technologies to the change in command that occured from then until the First World War. Most officer positions were purchased and there were very few officers who could "lead" and even fewer who were raised from the ranks.
@dp-sr1fd
@dp-sr1fd 3 жыл бұрын
@@johncashwell1024 Exactly right, Lord Cardigan bought his commission and look what happened. The opposite was the case in the Royal Navy where it was a meritocracy. R.N. captains knew their business well.
@paxwax1
@paxwax1 3 жыл бұрын
The book “Russell’s dispatches from the Crimea”, one of the first embedded war correspondents. Exposing the incompetence of the medical and supply system.
@blargmoocow7067
@blargmoocow7067 3 жыл бұрын
I learned about the Crimean war when I was young from the song “The Kerry Recruit”, and afternoon which I got really interested in the whole war, so I’m really glad you made this video!
@ThePerfectRed
@ThePerfectRed 3 жыл бұрын
When you take a musket as battlefield souvenir, you really know you're facing some serious hauling.
@georgegordonmeade5663
@georgegordonmeade5663 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh, finally some muskets! You know who else copied the Charleville .69 smoothbore musket? USA! The 1795 Springfield is essentially a copy, and then there are variations on the theme all the way up to the 1842. Not only were some converted to percussion, but some were also rifled, and I don’t think USA muskets ever had rear sights unless they were rifled.
@maximilianolimamoreira5002
@maximilianolimamoreira5002 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, but it's not surprising, as the Continental army was already familiar with 1766 Charleville muskets, so, it's kind of expected, though, as far as I know, American sailors in the war of 1812, preferred to use captured British Brown Bess muskets, due to their sturdiness.
@ElWrobel
@ElWrobel 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the weather was appropriately British, no wonder they've won.
@JamesBTurner93
@JamesBTurner93 3 жыл бұрын
Spoiler!!!?! ;) jk
@ElWrobel
@ElWrobel 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBTurner93 Didn't think about that, sorry mate :D
@filmandfirearms
@filmandfirearms 2 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting that they were fighting Russians. Most of Russia for most of the year is pretty wet. That's actually why winters tend to be so harsh to invaders. Not only is the ground hard, but it's rough and uneven because it was mud not long before. The weather wasn't something either side was uniquely accustomed to
@chrisdnz7886
@chrisdnz7886 3 жыл бұрын
In 166years, gun jesus will rise again to talk about another weapon used in the crimean war, the AK74M.
@liverpoolirish208
@liverpoolirish208 3 жыл бұрын
A correction, the British units were army with P1851 Minies, not P1853 Enfields.
@joshcruise2657
@joshcruise2657 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a brass pan on a flintlock like that, really cool!
@andreiandrei8240
@andreiandrei8240 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, the ar15 had no forward assist
@jasonmchaney133
@jasonmchaney133 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a flintlock with a brass pan. That's pretty interesting.
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 3 жыл бұрын
Common on French and Russian guns.
@jasonmchaney133
@jasonmchaney133 3 жыл бұрын
@@skepticalbadger Having studied US Civil War weapons, I've not looked closely at the flintlocks before other than the M1816 conversions. I always thought the brass fill on the lockplates of the converted M1816s were added to fill the hole where the pan was. Looking closer at the pans on these, now I'm questioning if this wasn't the design of the plate, with the pan being mounted separate (it would make sense the pan could be replaceable).
@shooter575
@shooter575 3 жыл бұрын
All of the conversions of the 1816's I have seen have the brass pan base still attached to the lockplate @@jasonmchaney133
@thebotrchap
@thebotrchap 3 жыл бұрын
The British used pattern 1851 rifled muskets at Inkermann, most being shipped out to re-equip troops on site or in transit. The most important factor was that it significantly outranged the smoothbore guns. The Russians would come under harassing fire by British infantry as ranges normally reserved for artillery. The P53 arrived only at the end of the war.
@F1ghteR41
@F1ghteR41 3 жыл бұрын
Few. I thought I'm the only one who've spotted this. Thank you. As a side note, I think it's a very rare sight that a comment from a well-known KZbinr doesn't get any likes for a day at all.
@thebotrchap
@thebotrchap 3 жыл бұрын
@@F1ghteR41 Well it’s not something the majority of the audience is likely to know or care about really. As for fame, well the internet is an awfully big place 😅
@bigmal1690
@bigmal1690 3 жыл бұрын
1 of the 1st wars were photography was used, and they are some really amazing photos from this period
@georgetreepwood1119
@georgetreepwood1119 3 жыл бұрын
Great video ..I had a relative ,Patrick Folan who died at Inkerman.Good seeing a gun that was there.Hey , maybe that gun got him.
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 3 жыл бұрын
A little bit linked... a lot of street names in England where I live are called after our various battles, and there is an Inkerman Street not too far from me. Lovely video Ian as always.
@funkyneil2000
@funkyneil2000 3 жыл бұрын
There a lot of road names in Aldershot derived from places and battles in Crimea!
@jodc2760
@jodc2760 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video ! Thank you Ian. Funny : Both the US and imperial Russia have copied the French 1822 musket (US M1835 , Russian 1828)
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 3 жыл бұрын
The dominant British weapon at that time was the Pattern 1851, not the '53.
@TheCatBilbo
@TheCatBilbo 3 жыл бұрын
My ex-fiancee's parents lived in a cottage called 'Inkerman' In the North-east of England. There are lots of places, roads, streets etc. in Britain with names of Crimean war battles!
@hughgordon6435
@hughgordon6435 3 жыл бұрын
Love how a 40+ inch barreled firearm is still classed as a small arm?
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын
Lots smaller than a cannon!
@hughgordon6435
@hughgordon6435 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScottKenny1978 yup ?? .?,,,...but??
@paul-sparky-sparr4160
@paul-sparky-sparr4160 3 жыл бұрын
The term "small arms" refers to the caliber of the weapons. This includes not only pistols but also rifles and muskets that were manufactured at that time.
@Alex-dm5to
@Alex-dm5to 3 жыл бұрын
Im from Russia, and my bear, doesn’t speak English, he learns, but when he’s drunk with vodka he needs subtitles… )
@historyshlibber7176
@historyshlibber7176 3 жыл бұрын
De V could stand for De Vere, an old English Aristocratic family of Norman Origin. If there are complete lists of officers and men involved at Inkerman it may be worth checking if there was a J De Vere
@kirkmattoon2594
@kirkmattoon2594 3 жыл бұрын
My thought too, and it suggests the gun was taken by an officer, rather than a Tommy. He probably tasked some poor ranker to carry it for him. Or maybe he got it from the man who originally picked it up. If so, I hope he paid him for it.
@GCho733
@GCho733 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, French guns didn’t have a safety.
@lesjames5191
@lesjames5191 3 жыл бұрын
My county regiment, The Durham light infantry played a major part in the battle of Inkerman and fought with distinction.
@windysky8099
@windysky8099 3 жыл бұрын
Nice channel! I always loved military history and I find all your videos really great! Subbed.
@paulmanson253
@paulmanson253 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm. The television series, Tales Of The Gun has a story by a collector. He purchased a bringback, it was covered with black paint,so he cleaned it. And was informed that was a significant mistake. The Russian guns were so painted over. Antireflection ? Too many years ago,I don't remember. If you look carefully, there seems to be traces of black paint all over that musket,also removed,mostly. I wonder if there are any Crimean bringbacks left that still do have their black paint remaining. I wonder if the new owner of the gun will decide to clean up the thing and remove what traces are left.
@nikitajukov4915
@nikitajukov4915 3 жыл бұрын
Black wood lacker was standart for Russian smoothbore muskets of that time period (first half of XIX century), but the recipe for the paint varried in different units - so shades from medium brown to deep black can be found (cossaks had reddish-brown lacker). Also muskets were repainted every 2 years in summer - so there may be remnants of old paint. And I have heard that black paint was not so sturdy. In modern russian collections you could find a wide spectre of wood coloring on muskets, so I think original paint was not cleaned on that gun.
@paulmanson253
@paulmanson253 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikitajukov4915 Well now. Thanks for that.
@TheRoach1835
@TheRoach1835 3 жыл бұрын
I was once told that the Confederates were limited to smoothbores in the early American Civil War. I can't remember the gentleman's name but he was a pretty decent authority on the military history of the period. Anyway according to him Fredericksburg was the first major battle in which the CSA fielded units armed with the P53. I don't know if that's true or not, but the interplay of smoothbores and rifles in that period has proven to be a bit stranger than I originally expected.
@Ricossmft28
@Ricossmft28 3 жыл бұрын
It very much is, however it wasn’t because of the CSA issuing them but rather not having enough modern enfield rifles to issue out so many soldiers had to use their own rifles brought from home which were usually old flintlocks from the revolutionary war that were passed down through the family, in those times many American homes had only one fire arm that would be kept and maintained for many many years usually acquired from military service by the head of the house
@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 3 жыл бұрын
Southern state arsenals were stocked with the older weapons
@TheRoach1835
@TheRoach1835 3 жыл бұрын
@@demonprinces17 From my understanding all the state arsenals were stocked with cheap weapons
@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoach1835 inexpensive, they were the old army weopens that the elected officials used when they were in the army, the army wanted them to buy Springfields but they cost too much. And still didn't have enough.
@SpeedRunningWarcrimes
@SpeedRunningWarcrimes 3 жыл бұрын
"Ivan, *smells rifle* what happened to our mosin?"
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 3 жыл бұрын
166 days to the date! Ian, You are a gentleman and a scholar! Bravo!
@paulthebeardedonedowning6820
@paulthebeardedonedowning6820 3 жыл бұрын
really cool bit of history there I struggle to imagine a British regular scooping this up and making all the way back home with him I'm probably gonna end up tumbling down a google rabbit hole looking for written accounts of this battle now lol
@dp-sr1fd
@dp-sr1fd 3 жыл бұрын
Please I am not being picking faults here, but I think the Brits were armed with P51 Enfield rifled muskets which were .702" calibre. The Pattern '53 rifle was .577".I don't think these were issued until 1855.
@greydonstautzenberger3901
@greydonstautzenberger3901 Жыл бұрын
What a unique piece for this market
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ,Ian.
@simonwinnik6655
@simonwinnik6655 3 жыл бұрын
Russia had tons of military experience fighting the East and the West for centuries, their social regime based on the slave labour and lack of industrialisation was, obviously, no match to the UK or France by the time of the Crimean War (unlike the time of Napoleonic Wars were the Russian troops performed remarkably).
@pauloluciomachadodebrito8107
@pauloluciomachadodebrito8107 3 жыл бұрын
@@na-chto-ya-trachu-vremya man you resume it greatly. Well done
@fus132
@fus132 3 жыл бұрын
Factory workers were released from serfdom (not slavery, mind you) if i remember correctly, and were under crown's direct jurisdiction.
@TheFaveteLinguis
@TheFaveteLinguis 3 жыл бұрын
@@fus132 did it make huge difference?
@nikolaibaughman8828
@nikolaibaughman8828 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFaveteLinguis it did actually. The local feudal leadership at the time was still a rural aristocracy and those who worked in factories were in the cities under direct impeiral authority rather than local lords. Made for a massive culture change which continued to play out until its end with the death of tsar nicholas II and the reenslavement of the russian people under the godless communists.
@Vedmed88
@Vedmed88 3 жыл бұрын
Скаклов корёжит
@milkapeismilky5464
@milkapeismilky5464 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see a firelock from the Crimean war. It was an interesting multinational conflict.
@Thekitty0706fan
@Thekitty0706fan 3 жыл бұрын
I want a video where Ian just sit and talk history for several hours.
@amorphoussolid8512
@amorphoussolid8512 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea the the Tula Arsenal has been around so long! Before I get comments just know that I am a casual learning as I go and cannot even own or fire guns despite loving them and not being a psychopath.
@fabiovarra3698
@fabiovarra3698 3 жыл бұрын
it was founded in 1712
@jackgoodrich6922
@jackgoodrich6922 3 жыл бұрын
Love seeing old muskets like this
@BROTRRer
@BROTRRer 3 жыл бұрын
Now I want to see a Mark Novak video repairing that crack
@Mr.T711
@Mr.T711 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for an informative firearms history lesson.
@HerrGesetz
@HerrGesetz 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet,,, muzzle loader content !! Thank you for your most excellent channel Ian. Best channel on the tube
@ilfarmboy
@ilfarmboy 3 жыл бұрын
need to do a video on the history of the Minie vs Burton bullet PLEASE
@ДмитрийШулепов-х5ц
@ДмитрийШулепов-х5ц 3 жыл бұрын
Спасибо за то что показали старое русское ружье. Увы, что было на уровне в войне Европы с Россией в 1812 году, в середине XIX века уже устарело. Едва ли вы встретите надпись "Балаклава" на британском кавалерийском карбине или сабле. Именно этот населенный пункт, а не "Инкерман" стоило написать... Thank you for showing me the old Russian gun. Alas, what was on the level in the war of Europe with Russia in 1812, in the middle of the XIX century is already outdated. You will hardly find the inscription "Balaclava" on a British cavalry carbine or saber. It was this locality, and not "Inkerman", that was worth writing...
@JimmyHondaRacing12
@JimmyHondaRacing12 3 жыл бұрын
That's why i love this channel... guns and history... two of my favorite topics 😁
@funkyneil2000
@funkyneil2000 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say the two are inextricably linked!
@JimmyHondaRacing12
@JimmyHondaRacing12 3 жыл бұрын
@@funkyneil2000 for real tho!
@СашаЗенкин-к3ю
@СашаЗенкин-к3ю 3 жыл бұрын
В русской императорской армии, в период Крымской кампании Восточной войны использовались ружья (в пехоте) - переделочное ударное (капсульное) 1844 года и ударное 1845 года. Приведенный образец, мог использоваться, запасными батальонами (формировались из бессрочно отпускных солдат). Зачем вы даете извращенную информацию?
@jon9021
@jon9021 3 жыл бұрын
Wish he could do one on an 18th or early 19th century British Brown Bess musket. Huzzah!
@wrxs1781
@wrxs1781 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent revue, I very much enjoy you videos.
@OTT822
@OTT822 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't it the p1851 that the British were using in the Crimean war?
@eradeklerk
@eradeklerk 3 жыл бұрын
The initials on the trigger guard of J .DE. V. would be a French name most probably J DE Villiers or such.
@markelalagoz8481
@markelalagoz8481 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting specimen thank you for sharing Ian
@ThePerfectRed
@ThePerfectRed 10 ай бұрын
Mister J. DE.V., you had the chance to be known forever but you blew it.
@Georgieastra
@Georgieastra 3 жыл бұрын
Once you see a Minié ball it seems like such an obvious innovation. A question I have pondered for a long time is could the Minié ball have been invented much earlier if someone had a flash of genius? Instead of the 1840s might it have been around in the 1740s... Or even the 1640s?
@JohnDoe-vm5rb
@JohnDoe-vm5rb 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, however there are more background factors. Eg, perhaps a more scientific environment that encourages someone to think about it.
@quantustremorestfuturus5434
@quantustremorestfuturus5434 3 жыл бұрын
7:45 : 8500 british and 7500 french... That's almost equally french & british. An casualties are also quite similar.
@petittoto7433
@petittoto7433 3 жыл бұрын
1:14 He said 9500 British and 4000 French, he has other sources than wikipedia.
@quantustremorestfuturus5434
@quantustremorestfuturus5434 3 жыл бұрын
​@@petittoto7433 which is hardly "a quarter as many troops as" the british. He contradicts his own numbers.
@TheLoxxxton
@TheLoxxxton 3 жыл бұрын
Point is the British kicked arse
@internationalfishers2367
@internationalfishers2367 3 жыл бұрын
I like the history lessons.
@johnrohde5510
@johnrohde5510 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I would only comment that English accounts of Russian strengths tend to attribute full strengths to units that had suffered enormous attrition getting to the Crimea.
@dragonmaid1360
@dragonmaid1360 3 жыл бұрын
I don't own guns. But I absolutely love how beautifully they are machined. Its so interesting hearing how they developed.ps.grew up with farm rifles.
@ИванСтроилов-ю7ы
@ИванСтроилов-ю7ы 3 жыл бұрын
hello from Sevastopol
@logya
@logya 3 жыл бұрын
Hi , nice one , love when you go threw history like that . Peace from France ; )
@harrisonbergeron9746
@harrisonbergeron9746 3 жыл бұрын
nice to see an antique gun
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting how the pan is tilted forward and not the usual case of being on bore centerline, nevermind the brass/bronze construction. I've not seen that before. Any idea why they'd do that?
@dp-sr1fd
@dp-sr1fd 3 жыл бұрын
It was angled to direct the flash away from the soldier's eye. The pan was bronze or brass to prevent corrosion due to damp combined with powder fouling. These muskets were very well made and designed and you could remove the pan from the lock plate to repair or replace.
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 3 жыл бұрын
@@dp-sr1fd Good point. With that in mind it's kinda odd none of the modern lock makers seem to offer one from what I've seen.
@dp-sr1fd
@dp-sr1fd 3 жыл бұрын
@@Broken_Yugo It could be that military arms have much more hard use than sporting arms and need repairs more often.
@DavidM-um2uk
@DavidM-um2uk 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful gun, but I would have hated to be the poor bastard who carried it into that hellhole of a battle.
@cgpirre
@cgpirre 3 жыл бұрын
I only just realized rifles are called that because they have a rifled barrel. I've know what rifling is for decades but never consciously made the connection.
@Liam-B
@Liam-B 3 жыл бұрын
A big boy gun with teeny tiny sights.
@vagus1280
@vagus1280 3 жыл бұрын
really nice looking gun
@ACE-xi7xn
@ACE-xi7xn 3 жыл бұрын
Nice gun.
@andylawn9521
@andylawn9521 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating as usual
@martingardener90
@martingardener90 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like the Russian commanders subscribed to the same military strategy as George McClellan - "We massively outnumber the enemy but we'll not risk anything by attacking with all our forces!" - or McClellan - not attacking at all!
@ZombieB
@ZombieB 3 жыл бұрын
1854 wow pretty cool
@Sshooter444
@Sshooter444 3 жыл бұрын
Would go well with my French and English musket balls and buttons that I bought in Sevastopol
@mclarenlamb9688
@mclarenlamb9688 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, do you think you would ever be able to get your hands on the Indian army's INSAS rifle? I've never seen any good videos on it, but it looks so cool.
@SomethingEls
@SomethingEls 3 жыл бұрын
This gun is beautiful
@jamesallred460
@jamesallred460 3 жыл бұрын
Remember remember the fifth of November. Sorry, couldn't help myself.
@nathanishungryanimations7206
@nathanishungryanimations7206 3 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful piece of history!
@philcapernaros7815
@philcapernaros7815 3 жыл бұрын
De V could indicate a member of the De Vere family.
@andybreadley429
@andybreadley429 3 жыл бұрын
Was it cleaned with brick powder?
@HavecksOR
@HavecksOR Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered in the Crimean war what kind of firearms did the Ottoman Empire use, I've tried looking it up and all I can find is generally only talking about Britain, France and Russia but almost nothing on the Ottomans
@Becont
@Becont Жыл бұрын
I think maybe even Ottomans can made their own flintlock muskets?
@fijapopovic5335
@fijapopovic5335 3 жыл бұрын
Who knows something about the No9 pistol made by New Order Firearms? There are no info on it since 2016.
@thespecialbru
@thespecialbru 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the oldest Russian firearm I’ve seen! Very uncommon to see anything prior to, say, the berdan and S&W pistols.
@bami2
@bami2 3 жыл бұрын
Now that's soldiering
@ThisNewHandleSystemSucks
@ThisNewHandleSystemSucks 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine a GoPro view of this gun's life? Follwing it through an 1850s Russian factory, into the hands of a soldier, all the way to Inkerman to experience brutal combat firsthand and ultimately be grabbed from the arms of it's former owner and taken as a trophy, then just exchanging hands and storage from mantles to cases in attics to collectors and here we are, 166 years later. Utterly fascinating to think of everything this gun saw.
@curtc2194
@curtc2194 3 жыл бұрын
The famous charge of the light brigade occurred during the Crimean War
@TheFatMob
@TheFatMob 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that was during the battle of Balaclava, not Inkerman.
@F1ghteR41
@F1ghteR41 3 жыл бұрын
I think this video was somewhat poorly researched. 3:05 There were several patterns of rifles (mainly Brunswick rifle variants) in Russian service, but they were too small in number. 3:30 That's also incorrect, by the way, as the predominant weapon was still the 1851 pattern Minié rifle, which were first issued to them during a stop on Malta, so the British entered the war with 1842 pattern smoothbores as well. 1853 Enfield rifled muskets only arrived in Crimea by the Spring of 1855. 5:25 Not just Mle 1777, but the An IX variant of it, which was actually better than Russian (and pretty much all other continental European) muskets of the day, which could not be said about its progenitor. 5:48 That's patently untrue, Russia was almost constantly fighting at that time. In 1828 in particular it was involved in fighting Turks on large scale. 10:15 I think that a fair share of them had also been sporterized and sold on a commercial market in the second half of the XIX century.
@jodc2760
@jodc2760 3 жыл бұрын
As fat as I remember, during the Cimean War the British rifled some 1842 pattern. The French were also armed mainly with smoothbore during the whole war. Only elite troops had rifles (Zouaves, Chasseurs, Foreign Legion...). The first war where both side were primerly armed with rifles, is the 2nd war of Italian independance in 1859.
@charles_wipman
@charles_wipman 3 жыл бұрын
Looks in good condition for be that old.
@Jeremy-qb9ej
@Jeremy-qb9ej 6 ай бұрын
Looks a lot like my 1817 flintock common rifle.....
@randywatson8347
@randywatson8347 3 жыл бұрын
Old but for it's age it is in good condition.
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