'Rust' armorer breaks silence on Alec Baldwin prop gun shooting

The gun supervisor for the film "Rust," on which a crew member was killed after a gun held by actor Alec Baldwin went off during rehearsal, has no idea where the real bullet came from, she says. #CNN #News

[@mr.m4853]

Sounds like everyone on that site had no idea what anybody was doing.

[@GotoHere]

Baldwin was the producer, it’s his fault for hiring incompetent employees.

[@RealKlausSchwab]

An anti gun leftist shoots another anti gun leftist with a gun given to them by another anti gun leftist.... and then they want to tell gun owners what to do.

[@RealKlausSchwab]

@Mark Taylor I'm not. Just making a simple point, how it's funny that everyone there were staunch anti gun and then one of those same people got shot due to irresponsibility. Same thing would happen if they hired a drunk to do the car stunts in f&f9.

[@RealKlausSchwab]

@Mark Taylor Have you seen the "armorer" of this production? They hired a 24 yr old female purple haired trans activist to be the "gun expert". This is a perfect example of inclusiveness run amuck. For sure don't hire the retired navy seal.

[@sandpiperr]

This!

[@jamesmcclure3907]

I and my fellow Marines were stationed in the desert, and its a lonely and desolate place with a lot of open space. We would sometimes take firearms (personal and military) out there and fire them, for practice and admittedly even enjoyment. It would not surprise me to learn that there were members of this film crew that were doing something similar in their downtime. Of course, we were in the Marines because "weapons" are our thing....a movie set, "pretend" is their thing. I think there are some secrets on that set that have yet to come to light.

[@chesterwilberforce9832]

I've read a few accounts now of the crew doing exactly this. The members who were staying on set after shooting would go shoot at stuff.

[@larryjohnson150]

Not sure why you had to say “admittedly even enjoyment” about shooting guns, like it’s a bad thing to enjoy that or something you should be ashamed of. I’m just surprised a Marine would say something like that, there’s nothing wrong with loving guns and shooting, there is something wrong being ashamed to admit it.

[@jamesmcclure3907]

@@larryjohnson150 How's the weather in Moscow, troll?

[@rich3154]

@@jamesmcclure3907 troll or biden supporter

[@jamesmcclure3907]

@@rich3154 Biden is proof that a guy that spends 30+ years in Congress making deals across the aisle ruins his chance to understand what being a leader is, and is incapable of taking charge.

[@eshbena]

This is such gross negligence that it's almost incomprehensible.

[@BurntheKremlin966]

Here the full story kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2XLpJ6oaaZ3aLM

[@timothypopik2288]

criminal negligence

[@cowboy7170]

She's more concerned about where the live bullets came from instead of focusing on how the F she did NOT properly check the gun. Armorer is basically trying to ABSOLVE herself from any responsibility because it was someone else's fault for introducing the live bullets into the set. Her statement of not knowing where the live bullets came from does not let her off of the hook for negligent or involuntary homicide charges IMO. Her other excuse is going to be: "I didn't have time to check the gun because I was doing two jobs at the same time". She will be spending time in jail pretty soon.

[@jurgbangerter1023]

@@cowboy7170 if I hand you a gun and say there are only blinds in it..will you not check the gun yourselves????....take the time to look at the rounds??? also will you point the gun at somebody just like that...THATS THE PROBLEM IN AMERICA...NOBODY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS...CHECK THE F..KING GUN AND AMMO FIRST..

[@jurgbangerter1023]

@Travel Crawl so I give you a gun and say its loaded with blinds...you just start shooting at people trustin me 100%????

[@Williamb612]

Also whether she has an idea or not about where the live round came from, her JOB was to check the cylinder and barrel of the gun for live rounds…

[@roscosanchez4649]

Baldwin shot the gun. He should have checked and cleared it. Theres no excuse not to do a quick check of your gear before you use it. It would have taken 5 seconds to see. But baldwin didnt even look. Not to say he's guilty of murder but he could have easily prevented what happened with 5 seconds of what anybody in the military is trained to do any time they pick up a gun.

[@jcfra420]

@@roscosanchez4649 I think you better actually do a little research before typing this stuff, makes you look stupid. Also, learn the difference between a blank, and a dummy round.

[@julianoghary3848]

Received, thank you

[@Grimm_Butterfly]

The head armorer says guns are fun and her crew went out and had fun with a gun. This is because she is not an authority and she is just a little girl who got here off her daddy's name

[@emmanueldedovets5960]

@@roscosanchez4649 it was a revolver so idk where you got the cleared the gun thing from because it dont eject the brass to begin with so its very hard to check for blanks and would take alot longer the 5 seconds. And just because Baldwin shoot it dosnt mean he is at fault, he is a actor and was playing his role and character on the set. The armorer is 100% responsible because she should have checked all 6 rounds individually, a spin check is a great way to kill someone by mistake because its a horrible method to check revolvers for live rounds, it was also her job to enforce proper gun safty and how to handle them, it was her job to train the crew on the proper way to check for live rounds. I reload my own ammunition and wouldn't consider myself a professional by any means but even I know better. And lastly live rounds can have flat heads or pointy heads depending on what you want the round to do, crush or peirce. Seriously man don't make accusations if you don't understand firearms and how they work

[@sandpiperr]

"I have no idea where the live round came from" really isn't a good enough answer when you're the amorer!

[@deductivereasoning4257]

what about the armory being a safe in the prop truck? Does that sound like a good armory?

[@DivineFalcon]

The gun going through the hands of several people without being checked is also irresponsible and negligent.

[@Pretty_Boy_Proud_Fil-Am]

The armorer must be a psychopath. She did it.

[@sandpiperr]

​@@Pretty_Boy_Proud_Fil-Am Wtf? There was clearly a long line of negligence going on here, and she was a big part of that since her job as the armorer to keep track of the guns. However, no one is saying she's some psycho killer who intended to murder somoene! Just that she sucked at her job. Ye-Gods, what is with people and all this black-and-white thinking?

[@sandpiperr]

​@@DivineFalcon Unfortunately for her, though, keeping track of who's handling the firearms and checking them each time they change hands also falls under the responsiblity of the armorer. There was obviously a lot of negligence going around on this production, but none of what you brought up absolves her at all. She's likely not the only one who fucked up...but she definitely fucked up big time!

[@topgrain]

The man who proclaimed "cold gun," without being sure it really was, has some legal problems.

[@RealKlausSchwab]

An anti gun leftist shoots another anti gun leftist with a gun given to them by another anti gun leftist.... and then they want to tell gun owners what to do.

[@JustinMShaw]

@@RealKlausSchwab the only calls for gun control over this are in regards to that film set. Go find another boogeyman

[@RealKlausSchwab]

@@JustinMShaw oh, ok. Just as long as you don't try to tell RESPONSIBLE gun owners what to do. From everything I've seen, we need to take guns from leftists.

[@JustinMShaw]

@@RealKlausSchwab you're making a strong case for taking away access to any kind of computer from you

[@RealKlausSchwab]

@@JustinMShaw ok. And.

[@andyxfish]

It was her job to hand the gun to the actor, not the AD. They’re both responsible.

[@gwynbleidd7177]

That depends. The Assistant Director negated safety by simply grabbing the gun off the cart and calling cold gun. So on some sets the Armorer does first inspection and the AD does the final check and hands it off. Its also been heard that Dave Halls, the AD had ignored safety protocols before on other sets. So we're stuck waiting for the full investigation.

[@billclancy4913]

@@gwynbleidd7177 Not an AD its a ND. No accident here, simple negligence

[@springbloom5940]

By 'both' you of course mean the unauthorized person who gave someone the gun and the person who knowing took a gun from an unauthorized person. If the AD just took the gun without authorization, then how exactly, is that the armorer's responsibility?

[@larrygro]

Damn they must have been in a heck of a hurry to finish that particular shot

[@u.r.t.v.unit6672]

@Mark Taylor Ultimately, the final person to use that weapon is the actor themselves. To assume that the gun is safe to use without checking is naïve and sheer negligence. Someone hands me a weapon to use for a movie scene I'm checking to see if that weapon is 100% safe to use before I point it at another person and squeeze the trigger. A simple training for gun saftey would've prevented all of this. Both are responsible, not just one person.

[@officialjimkyle]

"No idea" is pretty embarrassing and irresponsible when it's YOUR JOB to be in charge of the weapons...

[@Maximustard]

Alec Baldwin is the type of guy who throughly checks his order at the drive through, but he doesn’t check pistols. You’ve sided with Baldwin because you hate Latinos and you hate women

[@ashmitkumar3429]

@@Maximustard Chill out, Q

[@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481]

@@Maximustard If there was a bomb, and the film crew told him it was fake, it’s not unreasonable for him to trust them. Maybe he had too much trust in them. I’m “siding” with Baldwin because multiple people failed him before the gun ever got to his hands.

[@michaelfowler2603]

@@Maximustard Grow up putts! It's the armorers job to give the actor the correct gun with proper ammo. That is what amorer is paid for hypocrite.

[@Maximustard]

@@ashmitkumar3429 why are you liberals defending Baldwin so hard? He shot and killed a woman of colour

[@d.lawrence5670]

"I'm an armorer in charge of armory. But if live rounds end up in the armory, I will have no idea where they came from." I will put this statement on my resume, the next time I apply for an armory job. Let's see if I get hired.

[@allanchapman7986]

Basic safety precaution you clear the weapon and show clear before handing weapon to armourer. When taking weapon out armourer shows weapon clear before handing to you. It's 101 safe handling.

[@Michellex1]

THIS. This is the point.

[@cboucher6465]

That's an interesting round about way of saying "I have no idea what I'm doing and shouldn't have been hired"

[@EduardoOliveira-zx4yj]

TRUMP'S IS THE SOLUTION BIDEN'S IS CORRUPTION TRUMP'S IS LIFE BIDEN'S IS KNIFE

[@dr3w399]

@@EduardoOliveira-zx4yj Calm down cultest you take you're meds ?

[@cboucher6465]

@Rahm Emmanuel okay you can politely leave with that kind of shit talk. "Waaannn women won't fk me so I post shit like this to get back at them!"

[@Christian-di8zu]

Hired by Alec.

[@cboucher6465]

@@dr3w399 just block him. He does this every video posted by CNN.

[@tonygunk1886]

Seeing as this is her 4th time with serious concerns about her handling of safety.. I would imagine the “no idea” is a crock of 💩

[@RealKlausSchwab]

An anti gun leftist shoots another anti gun leftist with a gun given to them by another anti gun leftist.... and then they want to tell gun owners what to do.

[@telectronix1368]

@@RealKlausSchwab A maga cult supporting teenager deliberately, knowingly travels in to a dangerous situation, obtains an illegal rifle and shoots and kills two people and you hold him up as a 'hero'. Save your pearl-clutching.

[@gothgammy666]

On her second job, how do you know this...Citation?

[@gothgammy666]

@@RealKlausSchwab If you knew the series of event you would understand this as a total accident but you insist on sounding like a moron. MOVIES PORTRAY STORIES...WHAT A SHOCKING REVALATION. How about you guys just stop watching all hollywood made media since you hate us all so damn much?? I know why because you are all talk and hypocrisy...

[@gothgammy666]

@@telectronix1368 Seriously they worship that kid while they vilify his victims like he knew anything about them while he murdered them.

[@oldestgamer]

That armorer should NEVER work again in that field, she completely failed here and someone died because of it.

[@jurgbangerter1023]

actually Gun safety is responsibility of the shooter...a gun can blow up in your face when the barrel is obstucted...I hate to have a gun blowing up in my face so I alwas load myself and do a barrel check...

[@mikemorris1760]

On the other end of the spectrum there’s the John Wick movies where Keanu spent months training with firearms and always followed strict firearm protocols.

[@kristinn3367]

Maybe because there was an experienced armorer on his movie.

[@jguinto101]

John Wick crew is been working since The Matrix they all have experience in all levels with excellent working condition.

[@Incredible43]

@MikeMorris Exactly

[@BK-uy9nj]

Its not just john wick, it’s every big movie with guns. Saving private ryan, black hawk down, every action star movie, every cowboy movie. Actors shoot fake guns at people, it’s on the set and armorers to keep those weapons safe and clear. End of story.

[@haroldkeller4593]

Yes,I am still interested.

[@Steve0272.]

The famous philosopher SHAGGY once said ... 🎶it 🎵wasn't me 🎵 " no idea " is admitting negligence at minimum

[@N7-WAR-HOUND]

I don’t pretend to know what a prop gun is. But I sure as hell know what a gun is. If a so called prop gun is able to fire a live round. Then it’s a gun.

[@Longtack55]

"No idea" does not constitute an admission of anything except "no idea." Are you watching too many crime stories?

[@amyeastham7939]

Have a great day!

[@Steve0272.]

@@Longtack55 agree I worded that wrong , I'm not saying they are admitting anything , I'm saying a court will judge that answer and determine negligence , do you disagree ? , I watch alot of columbo mate and he agrees with me 👍

[@Longtack55]

@@Steve0272. Joe Colombo is our man Steve. Observing behavior is fascinating.

[@kalbs89]

Not smart, she should keep quiet until the investigation is complete.

[@juliereyes5110]

Or she can speak and use her first amendment nazzy

[@Scarabswarm]

@@juliereyes5110 Do you understand the reason for Miranda Rights? Making statements during an ongoing investigation is almost always a bad idea. Nobody is saying she should be silenced dofus, they're saying she's hurting her case by saying anything.

[@FyourCult]

if she was smart she wouldn’t be in this predicament in the first place…

[@amyeastham7939]

Have a great day!

[@EllRiver]

@@juliereyes5110 If you might get charged. Shut up! Don't even let your lawyers talk!

[@thebassassin5507]

Doesn’t matter if the armorer didn’t bring the rounds…it’s her responsibility. It’s as simple as that.

[@tiffinwonderland7243]

Agree! If they had been locked up during lunch like they were supposed to be this would of never happened! It was her JOB to keep eyes on those guns at all times. At the very least they should of been checked after lunch

[@markkettlewell7441]

@Mark Taylor It is, but the armourer should check the chamber and the rounds.

[@davidanderson6100]

I'm assuming she would be the one to hand the firearm to the actor, if so wouldn't you check it one last time before giving it over, seems like the probable process.

[@bighands69]

The Armorer is not necessarily responsible for the handling of weapons. They may supply the weapons, or provide technical support. They are not necessarily responsible for personal actions of those using said weapons. All of this just maybe an accident.

[@markwarren5644]

@Mark Taylor not sure I'd go as far as murder. Negligent homicide, not murder. Baldwin had the final responsibility to check the weapon before pointing and pulling the trigger. I've been around guns since I was 11 years old, and I was taught basic firearm safety then, we don't fuck around with deadly weapons, period! Perhaps instead of being such a rabid hater of gun owners Baldwin should have educated himself about the dangers knowing nothing about firearms! It's ironic because he's made a fortune off of his movies that glorify violence and gunplay.

[@anonymousviewer1540]

ANOTHER example of people not being responsible and taking their jobs seriously.

[@rjlchristie]

One certainty: someone loaded the gun with a live bullet and that scumbag is keeping silent.

[@Grimm_Butterfly]

She has a "guns are fun" talking polnt. That's why the crew was playing with guns. Guns are deadly tools.

[@Grimm_Butterfly]

@White Excellence it's already been said crew members went out pinging because guns are toys. Your talking politics are busted

[@corieolgora7777]

nice to hear from you

[@casyatbat]

@White Excellence change your alias to White Insignificant or White Unexceptional. This is exposes your true "character" and there is zero empathy in you.

[@jimmyispromo]

Incompetent. They had literally one job to do.

[@truckfump9434]

OH but she said safety is her number one concern. So she must be innocent. 🙄

[@springbloom5940]

What job was that?

[@Charliefox71]

@White Excellence What does one person’s personal beliefs have to do with it?

[@springbloom5940]

@@truckfump9434 She bears the least responsibility. I've worked as a technical advisor for weapons and tactics, on about 30 films and whatever anyone else was supposed to know or do, or not, the primary safety protocol that Alec Baldwin was absolutely aware of, is that *NO ONE* but the weapons crew and the actor in-scene, is to handle the guns. When the Assistant Director tried to hand him a gun, his duty was to refuse it and call an immediate stop to all on-set operations, until the armorer has cleared and accounted for all the guns and ammunition. What appears to have happened here, is they simply didn't want to wait on her, so an unauthorized person *stole* a gun from the cart and gave it to Baldwin, who knew absolutely that he was not supposed to accept it.

[@ninianstorm6494]

@@springbloom5940 biden kick can down road with sept 11 withdraw because he plan to permanently stay in afgan much like dnc did with claiming russia hack to remain in syria too. wesley clark did say libya iran syria going to be destroyed 2007 cia leaked memo kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ7Ve4V-rMeJfZo dems use thugs to attack people with stand down cops in san jose, break glass 2017 inauguration DC, burn loot under cali prop 37 for catch release rioters below $900 dollars per day all with blessings from corrupt fbi/cia/social media, they even incite violence to kill people using smears like uneducated/fascists' leading to 50 shot vegasd/portland=fbi cover up saying motive unknown in aftermath during early stage of pandemic, media/dnc smear treating covid symptoms and travel bans together with WHO but did lunar new year parades blaming non essential businesses

[@christinerobinson9372]

The armorer did not maintain custody of the gun. That makes her responsible.

[@Checkmychamnelforproof]

@pojo 10 bingo

[@rapunzeleh546]

since some of the crew walked off citing safety issues, what are the chances one of them planted a live round in amongst the blanks, just to ensure there WAS an issue with gun safety.

[@derrickwolters8694]

@pojo 10 So actors who are handed "props" shouldn't use them how the director tells them to? Do you know how movies work?

[@Checkmychamnelforproof]

@@derrickwolters8694 1) it should be props not “props” in the first place 2)Why is Alec Baldwin in a film with guns,promoting guns,if he is anti gun 3)Anyone that owns a firearm knows to follow safety protocol,the most basic rule is treat it as if it is always loaded 4)Why was the director shot?I could see another actor but why was the gun pointed at the director in the first place?Photo op?

[@LoboKhan1]

@pojo 10 If my mechanic screws up and my car's brakes fail, and I can't stop in time and kill someone,... is it the mechanic's fault, or my fault?

[@619mark1]

It wasn’t just one bad decision but a series of bad decisions.

[@wasupfool5692]

Starting with Baldwin hiring them, hes producer so he hires all involved

[@fafafohigh69]

@@wasupfool5692 exactly he tried to be cheap on a very dangerous western shoot-em-up set and he should be sued into bankruptcy but I don't think it was criminal. Some jobs need to have trained, vetted union help and this is one of them. This is a new trend of trying to screw the union members that helped Baldwin earn his riches the last 30 years he tried to go cheap and make more profit as a producer

[@JanddeKock]

One of the few probably correct commemts here amongst the conjecture. The other seems to be that no live rounds should have been on set at all. Considering some of the other comments about problems with safety Im wondering whether their was a psycho on the set who was setting this up? Slipped a live round into the weapon? Knew how to get round the armourer etc? A psycho can even get past good systems....

[@619mark1]

@@JanddeKock truth time they used live ammo the day before. Too many witnesses no need to conjecture cause the truth will be told

[@amyeastham7939]

Have a great day!

[@donnewton7858]

The question should have been: "How did the live round get into the gun? Did you clear the weapon for use? Did you hand the gun to someone else with the indication it was safe?" This is like a crane operator saying, "I don't know how the 2000 pounds of steel got dropped on your house." Well, the controls were in YOUR hands.

[@deductivereasoning4257]

A shout of cold gun means completely empty. Couldn't the assistant director and the lead actor/producer tell the revolver was completely loaded?

[@cryptomoonshots73]

@@deductivereasoning4257 Yes you're 100% correct but you failed to mention that also the armorer could have checked before it even made it to the hands of others? Unfortunately it's her job and she cannot just pass the buck.

[@redelfshotthefood8213]

A marine in the comments has said he and his buddies used that space for recreational shooting. Do you think that was done alcohol-free? Do you think that could be the source of the ammo? Do you think that those in charge could easily have ordered the armourer to produce the gun AND not allowed them to do the time consuming security check? Because all of these things are likely. Time is money. And film production has to be fast to catch the light and cut costs.

[@donnewton7858]

@@redelfshotthefood8213 They've already admitted that staff were using the guns for 'plinking' which means live rounds. They were shooting at beer cans, apparently empty ones, which means the beer had to go somewhere. They then brought the weapons back to the armorer (and this just my opinion) and she didn't do a proper clear. That's how the live round was introduced. It's negligence, pure and simple. Maybe not to the level of criminal negligence, I don't know, I'm not a lawyer.

[@deductivereasoning4257]

She has claimed, through lawyers, no knowledge of the plinking. So how is she to check for something she wasn't aware of and wouldn't of allowed had she known it was going to take place? She wasn't the only one allowed to access the guns, she also had other job duties compared to those drinking and incorrectly using props...

[@mark-xx1lt]

Why would this armorer take a job if she knew her duties could not be carried out? Her excuse seems very weak.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Yes. No set EMTs. No medic. No competition bond. What a %=÷× show. What was Baldwin thinking?

[@Jack0fAllTrades]

She was only hired because of her daddy‘s connection in that field

[@mark-xx1lt]

@@Jack0fAllTrades good to know

[@ninianstorm6494]

@@mark-xx1lt biden kick can down road with sept 11 withdraw because he plan to permanently stay in afgan much like dnc did with claiming russia hack to remain in syria too. wesley clark did say libya iran syria going to be destroyed 2007 cia leaked memo kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ7Ve4V-rMeJfZo dems use thugs to attack people with stand down cops in san jose, break glass 2017 inauguration DC, burn loot under cali prop 37 for catch release rioters below $900 dollars per day all with blessings from corrupt fbi/cia/social media, they even incite violence to kill people using smears like uneducated/fascists' leading to 50 shot vegasd/portland=fbi cover up saying motive unknown in aftermath during early stage of pandemic, media/dnc smear treating covid symptoms and travel bans together with WHO but did lunar new year parades blaming non essential businesses

[@ltay5005]

Not a "diversity hire". A , nepotism hire. Happens all the time.

[@gman-gx6gg]

If your job is to handle live* rounds and firearms you should know where your ammunition is 24/7 that's basic gun safety.

[@adkins5662]

True but it's also basic gun safety that anytime you pick up or handed a gun to assume it loaded an to clear it ya self to make sure it's safe an not go by someone saying it's safe. An in case ya come back with thats her job to do it ya wrong. Cause if he doesn't know how to clear it, he shouldn't have been allowed to hold it till he learned how to

[@theresamorris6206]

An to believe she is the daughter of a well known (&respected ) gun expert or something of such . Then how on earth is she so lost everyone saying she had to go request some lessons from her Dad, , , what ? Any people I've known to be gun people in business an all, their daughters (whole family) are very knowledgeable about guns and gun safety ! ! So I'm quite confused by all of this here TBH. An really I think the always check any gun when handed to you idea except in this type of case. Because there are too many people an if something were to go wrong there's all of these people who could have opened it (one after another) so that leaves so much chance if something fishy were to happen , , , what a mess ! It would be better to pay an expert to be there so to be in control and pollution an fully responsible for them an what would be their fault alone if anything were to happen w/the weapons ! Like TBH when those guns were ever there on location an or near the set an actor's they should be either locked up or in the physical presence of the Armor ! Seriously like if all of a sudden that person has to take a poop or something they should pack up the guns an take them to the bathroom with them ! Or perhaps be able to hand over r esp on cavil I ties to director to watch the weapons an for them to still wait to do the scene s w/th at all until they get back in there. Because really it's part of the job is to be there present when they are using an acting w/the weapons. Because w/so many people and hands on a movie set it would be such a nightmare if all those hands opening an closing it that could prove not worth the risk. Just pay for an artists to airbrush the guns in first instead. Or pay to have a professional handler. But it's looking like instead of a highly trained and safe reliable specialist they have ended up w/more of a different category of props dept worker. Which is not same thing an not same amount of specialized training goes w/either. Guns like a live grizzly bear at movie props that can kill you so there for not every one on set should be allowed to work w/or in any way way be allowed to handle them. So yeah standard gun safety and logic in most all situations but this one I believe it would be much safer this way not the safety safety standard as far as I can see it anyways.

[@ralphm6901]

I believe it has also been said that there was no call for actual live rounds on set. However, some crew members supposedly took guns off the set to shoot tin cans somewhere out back. That's likely where the live rounds came from. Whatever idiot took the gun(s) didn't unload them when they put them back. I agree that the armorer is responsible for knowing what the loads are. The question I have is, did the armorer leave the guns lying around in the open? Did the assistant director who handed the gun to Baldwin check it, and why the hell did he even touch it?

[@adkins5662]

@@ralphm6901 no the guns was in a safe whenever unattended. But some of the ammo was left out that day while on a lunch break. An yes the asset director was the last one to check it b4 handing it off to baldwin. He even told the cops that he only check 3 of them that he should have check better than what he did. I mean Tbh it was set for something like this to happen from the beginning. He cut corners an did whatever he could to save money at the cost of safety, ignoring any attempts of someone (The Armor girl) trying to get safety meetings going.if you look into this whole thing you will see alot off red flags pop up for old baldwin. An it revols around him making more money

[@phoenixzappa7366]

Never hire a woman to do a man's job.

[@TheInfinitlyProlonged]

"Sure I bought the ingredients and cooked the food, but I have no idea how that cyanide got in there!" Sounds pretty dumb don't it, Hannah.

[@georgehays4900]

Custody of the weapons is the armorers responsibility.

[@springbloom5940]

Which is why it was Alec Baldwin's responsibility to refuse a weapon handoff from anyone but the armorer. He knew, the AD knew that it was a primary safety protocol, which they both ignored to cut corners.

[@Shadow__133]

Oh, she "has no idea"? 😞 I hope some years on jail help her figure out and overcome her incompetence.

[@MeanGeneSanDiego]

"No idea where the rounds came from"?🤪😖! It's already been reported that actors and crew were using the guns for live round target practice!

[@jeaninewilliams8730]

Yes, so true. Then some of those the crew walked off the set, days before the incident happened

[@moistpeanut5986]

How do I become an armorer? I feel I could do her job way better than her

[@ziegweid]

Your daddy needs to be a famous armourer

[@Jack0fAllTrades]

I think she was only 24 years old too.

[@rpach3023]

I hear there's an opening.

[@michissouri10]

In Hollywood? Well, just don the wokistani/sjw uniform. Black skinny jeans, oversized tee stating your support for the fad cause Du jour, dye your hair colors that to sane people serve as literal warning flags, but to the pedowoods view as stunning and brave. That's it. Oh, don't be progun, a member of the NRA, or a straight, white male.

[@mehere8038]

@@Jack0fAllTrades 24 isn't that young. I've seen 11 year olds capable of taking on jobs like this & standing up to the adults as necessary! If Daddy's in the same job, there's nothing at all to stop a 24 year old from having 20 years experience & being as good as an average 40 year old

[@robertcallister7566]

Side note...that's the best most professional picture they could find of the armorer? Sorry, but she looks like a Senior in high school taking selfies in the bathroom. That is the person in ultimate control of deadly firearms on a Hollywood set?

[@gutspipola8886]

Who hired her? Who was responsible for training her? Easy to blame her… she just accepted a job she had no idea how to do. But working with firearms? Come on…. Gotta go further up the chain.

[@Peigirl1985]

I agree to young!

[@brianmorton9419]

Google her and you’ll find out that this actually IS the most professional picture of her.

[@eric3434]

Diversity hire what could go wrong?

[@3souris]

Her father is a veteran Hollywood armorer and word is she used to be his daughterly assistant on set sometimes.

[@toddferguson6369]

Not that hard to check a weapon. Did someone physically prevent her from checking the gun? No excuse. Make an example of both

[@ct5625]

The armorer should know exactly what ammo is on set. Saying she doesn't know how that bullet got there is admitting incompetence and culpability. No one else should have been handling that gun, so if she's trying to claim that the AD put that live round in that gun she is still responsible for giving that gun to the AD instead of to Baldwin. There is literally no way she escapes culpability in this, nor should she be able to. This was her job.

[@jurgbangerter1023]

who prevented the shooter to check??? gun safety is simple, its always the shooter who does the check...

[@BillBrinkop]

If that’s the armorer you can bet your ass I would be personally inspecting the guns if they were ever pointed in my direction.

[@bighands69]

None of us really know what happened.

[@brianabc83]

I believe safety rules state you aren't supposed to point the gun directly at anyone

[@mp5249]

What? Her pwrsona just oozes firearm knowledge. She lives big weapons.

[@barbarageddis1584]

I doubt anyone will ever hire her again

[@BillBrinkop]

@@brianabc83 how did that work out?

[@Chrissy582]

I became a registered nurse at 20 years old. I was Fully expected to Perform the duties of an RN. I was also expected to ask for help if I wasn’t sure or to say I’m not comfortable if I didn’t feel qualified to perform the procedure. make no mistake, if I gave the wrong blood to a patient or gave potassium instead of Saline IV, I would’ve been completely at fault for my actions. I believe the most basic duty of an armorer would be to make sure there’s no live rounds in the gun. Age and experience shouldn’t matter.

[@fafafohigh69]

you're comparing apples to oranges. There is not a team of armorers on a movie set she was given a very important job she is not qualified to do and no one to consult when she's not sure of something. Alec Baldwin, as producer, tried to save money and circumvent hiring a qualified, vetted union armorer for a most dangerous type of movie (shoot-em-up western). He is ultimately responsible for the outcome unfortunately and I love Alec Baldwin movies, especially Glengarry Glen Ross. Nevertheless, he should be sued to high heaven but I don't think it's criminal there must be intent and he's only guilty of being negligently cheap

[@jaytrock3217]

If I handed you the wrong dose, and you administrated it. Who is the one responsible? You. Just like the person pointing a firearm and pointing the trigger at someone. I have had people give me the wrong dose to give. As the person giving the drug. I am the one responsible.

[@briang.7206]

Yes I agree why couldn't they hire someone to assist her ? Maybe teaching safety and ensuring safety. She says she worked with her dad for 8 years. I don't think she was capable of taking charge and ensuring safety.

[@Neilly671]

Age and experience do matter when you are hiring someone. The employer is responsible as well because they hired her with little experience.

[@turnthepage867]

Hannah was not a member of the prop/armourers union. So, she didn't have to pass their written tests, and complete 2,500 hours as an assist propmaster, plus weapons specialist training hours.

[@kineahora8736]

“Wasn’t responsible” sounds about right. In the old days you would hear the following: “I don’t know what happened, and as that’s my responsibility, I am resigning from this position”. Nobody acts this way anymore.

[@RaveGamer519]

Nobody takes responsibility these days smh

[@gerrybannon7394]

Check out police unions!

[@gothgammy666]

Republicans and the police are the worst offenders.

[@chrisdraughn5941]

Wait a minute, shirking responsibility is not a new phenomenon. Younger people didn’t invent that, that kind of crap has been going on starting with cavemen.I understand that you’re getting older and society is changing in ways you don’t like or understand, but let’s not be ridiculous. I’m not a young man anymore either, and I know the “good old days” weren’t always good. Plenty of people back in the old days acted with dishonor too. Being too nostalgic about one’s youth can warp one’s perspective to the point of saying irrational things. Don’t fall into that trap. Let me ask you this: When you were young, do you remember the older generations thinking the world was going to hell in a hand basket and it was the fault of all these crazy irresponsible and lazy young people? Because I remember that quiet well.

[@whitestrake2760]

Bro... We got 60 yr olds now trying to shirk responsibility for literally destroying our planet onto younger generations. This is not a new phenomenon, if it happened in "ye olden times" they likely would be saying the same thing.

[@curanderoverde]

She is clueless & should not be around fire arms regardless who her grandfather was

[@ModMINI]

She's hiding from the cops and talking through her lawyer, which is probably smart, but would not be surprised if there was a negligence charge; it is ultimately her responsibility

[@bholmes5490]

You don't get hired on an important job when you say you need more training. she seems out of her element. It'll be interesting to find out how strongly she was asking for help. And if for trained people help is needed?

[@user-tj3et5ep6t]

You don’t point a weapon at the crew and pull the trigger. Alec is going down for manslaughter

[@jimbeekman4863]

@@user-tj3et5ep6t YUP!!

[@henrypierce8010]

Alec Baldwin is clueless and failed to verify the state of the firearm. He negligently killed a women and is now trying to blame another woman for his incompetence. Typical 'Crat move.

[@GH-oi2jf]

It isn’t just the live round. How did the people doing recreational shooting get access to the revolver? The firearms were supposed to be in her possession.

[@godzillamanstreb524]

Excellent point

[@Maximustard]

Do you CNN fans never learn? You honestly believe the gossip?

[@EvanSolomonBerger]

@White Excellence wtf is wrong with you?

[@LeopardJoy]

@@EvanSolomonBerger Thank you, Evan. I cannot believe some of the comments I've seen on these videos about this tragedy.

[@kristinn3367]

Do you never learn when you aren’t wanted in a conversation? Go back to your Q chat room.

[@willisapril]

I stand behind Alec Baldwin because no way in hell I'm staying in front of him.

[@SurgeCess]

@@febyy1158 Did you know I just reported you for spam?

[@EllRiver]

Not his fault.

[@kanoreese1253]

Wow!😂

[@RealDeanWinchester]

@don s and you should perform some message therapy on my Johnson.

[@RealDeanWinchester]

@don s yeah sure. Bring your lotion.

[@adammetzger4182]

Shouldn't she have cleared it herself before handing it to Baldwin?

[@AA-zv6yo]

And baldwin should've checked himself for verification. Negligence all around

[@pocketlinttreasures33]

@@AA-zv6yo actors don't check themselves. It's a film set. That's why they hire an armourer..

[@dan_hitchman007]

@@AA-zv6yo Actors cannot due to industry rules.

[@AA-zv6yo]

Maybe she'd be alive if he did. He pulled the trigger

[@Joshuadanielcohen]

Thank god she wasn’t the armorer for Squid Game…

[@dan_hitchman007]

That was done with digital effects.

[@lesstew3772]

All do respect her being the armorer would most likely saved a few lives, by forgetting to arm a few machine guns.

[@anonymousviewer1540]

Or John Wick 1-3

[@maxkagi1297]

..or Rambo

[@anonymousviewer1540]

Baldwin probably will never touch a gun again.

[@elainebrooksbank5281]

Oh well, if she’s no idea how live ammunition got onto the set that’s OK then. Was she the armorer or not? Was she responsible for the fire arms on the production or not? Was she responsible for the ammunition on set or not? Did she do her job of checking the gun or not? Did she rotate the barrel to check it was clear or not? Is that part of the armorers job or not? Did she allow any of the guns she was responsible for to be used for “downtime plinking” or not? She may be only 24 and hardly experienced enough to be classed as head armorer but she took the job despite saying herself that she wasn’t ready and found it “scary to load a gun with blanks.” Could she even tell the difference between a live round, a replica or a blank? Sorry but if it’s your job to know and your job to check and your job to ensure that “cold guns” are actually “cold” then just passing the buck by saying you’ve no idea why you didn’t do your job doesn’t seem much of a valid excuse.

[@QueenOfArabianSea]

All guns and ammo on set should be under lock and key accessed only by the armorer at all times. If a gun is out of the locker the armorer and the actor are only ones allowed to touch it and the armorer has to be present with the gun until it's returned back to the locker. She left the gun lying around on set while she was doing something else somewhere. That itself is negligence and she is 100% to blame. What the heck is a 24 year old doing on the set anyway? Car insurance companies won't even give her a decent premium until she is over 25.

[@caxcan9438]

Baldwin wanted to go up the ladder 🪜 Illuminati now that Tom Hanks is dead.

[@springbloom5940]

Um, yeah, so... there wasn't supposed to be any live ammunition on set, so how exactly is it her responsibility to manage the live ammunition? Do you understand?

[@chrisdraughn5941]

Yeah, some 24 year-olds are responsible enough for a job like that and some aren’t. Same can be said of any age. I have no idea about her in particular, but I did see a video of her from a year ago talking about how she learned about guns just by watching her father. She clearly characterized her training as informal. Her father was an armorer for the film industry and I’m assuming that’s how doors were open to her to start a career in the industry. I think it’s entirely plausible that there was a lax attitude toward safety standards on this production across the board. While most accidents do tend to have multiple points of failure that lead to catastrophe, the final thing thing that was supposed to stop it was her, the armorer. I don’t see a way around that.

[@elainebrooksbank5281]

@@caxcan9438 I’m sure Tom Hanks would thank you for his obituary - even if it is a little bit early given that he’s not actually dead yet.

[@Beginstheman]

That armorer really comes up as a seriously incompetent and irresponsible person with this kind of reply. When there are 500 rounds of ammunition recovered on the set, all eyes are on you. There is no way to sugarcoat this.

[@EricLing64]

It's believed the 500 rounds were mostly blanks and dummies. Unless you've found some further update. That said no live ammunition at all should be on the set, and the reports of them plinking earlier with the gun itself is a massive red flag. I would guess eventually if there are criminal charges or civil liability it will mostly fall on whoever brought the live ammunition there.

[@johnhuey7670]

@@EricLing64 actually they were live rounds because they would target practice with those same guns when they were done filming for the day

[@seacucumberocean4082]

How is it the armorer's fault if the live round was placed in it after it was handed over? And we dont know if the gun was kept for hours or days after it was handed over, used for target practice or used by incapacitated people. Maybe she had no say so over that. Maybe that's why the crew insisted on meetings and protocol over gun safety!

[@BirdDogey1]

I've worked with firearms my entire adult life. I would never tell someone a weapon is unloaded without having checked it myself. I would also have the person receiving the firearm do a safety check as well. The above is common practice in most circles. FYI, wadcutter target ammo looks like a blank to someone unfamiliar with ammo.

[@remo687]

Seriously right? I have no idea what the safety process for firearms on a film set are, but it seems t hat they *should* check the gun right up until the literal very last moment before handing the actor the gun, TO BE CERTAIN of safety.

[@bighands69]

The issue is that some of them may not have actually been aware that it was a firearm they may have believed it to a prop. We really have no idea what went down here.

[@briang.7206]

I agree there should have been safety classes and those rules enforced.

[@jurgbangerter1023]

no ..a blank looks like a blank and real ammo looks like real ammo...and gun safety is for the shooter...anybody can give you a loaded gun and tell you that its loaded with blanks..really???

[@kahlesjf]

Blanks should not be discharged in the direction of another person, especially in such a confined space.

[@russelnokes1095]

When you have a weapon in your hand it is your responsibility period. The first safety protocol is to open the magazine and determine for yourself if it loaded or unloaded. 2nd never point a loaded weapon at anyone unless your intending to harm them. The first time you assume it's unloaded there will soon be a hole in something.

[@ahmadzain1169]

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[@thesoupman2604]

But let’s not forget Alec is untrained and had no idea the gun was actually had a live round, we should be questioning the person who actually loaded the gun

[@ciaspecialactivitiesdivisi5867]

@@thesoupman2604 he has had firearm training it’s just it’s he was filming it’s not his job to handle the weapons just use them

[@paultheaudaciousbradford6772]

How many here were only introduced to the word “armorer” after this incident?

[@all_bets_on_Ganesh]

Probably the same number of people who became legal scholars on armory law since watching this video.

[@dfr6663]

None?

[@spankflaps1365]

What use is an armourer who says “it’s not my fault”? There’s a big difference between a live round and a blank. One has a bullet tip, and the other doesn’t.

[@EduardoOliveira-zx4yj]

TRUMP'S IS THE SOLUTION BIDEN'S IS CORRUPTION TRUMP'S IS LIFE BIDEN'S IS KNIFE

[@HoneyBadger80886]

And Both are Deadly.

[@eric3434]

Baldwin's responsibility. Works with guns as a job. Failed to check if the gun was unloaded. Shot the camera girl. Blanks still kill and cause injury.

[@pharmatographist]

As much as she is guilty (and she is definitely guilty), the whole production is at fault. Baldwin, who is the producer, did not seem to heed warning signs that safety was being tossed aside to maintain the speed and budget of this whole debacle.

[@JackTheBlack1585]

That is like hiring a head of security and when something happen too you, the head of security said ‘I don’t know where that guy coming from not my fault’.

[@remo687]

Exactly this. "I have no idea" does not cut it

[@RealKlausSchwab]

An anti gun leftist shoots another anti gun leftist with a gun given to them by another anti gun leftist.... and then they want to tell gun owners what to do.

[@ninianstorm6494]

@@RealKlausSchwab biden kick can down road with sept 11 withdraw because he plan to permanently stay in afgan much like dnc did with claiming russia hack to remain in syria too. wesley clark did say libya iran syria going to be destroyed 2007 cia leaked memo kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ7Ve4V-rMeJfZo dems use thugs to attack people with stand down cops in san jose, break glass 2017 inauguration DC, burn loot under cali prop 37 for catch release rioters below $900 dollars per day all with blessings from corrupt fbi/cia/social media, they even incite violence to kill people using smears like uneducated/fascists' leading to 50 shot vegasd/portland=fbi cover up saying motive unknown in aftermath during early stage of pandemic, media/dnc smear treating covid symptoms and travel bans together with WHO but did lunar new year parades blaming non essential businesses

[@eby2257]

Baldwin is a killer.

[@jdeamaral]

If it was her job to make sure a prop was safe, then she failed at her job. I don't care if someone sneaked real bullets into the gun. She failed at her job.

[@heatherrose3554]

Everyone who touched that gun without checking is responsible. Never seen a gun owner not check even when you see someone else check.

[@jdeamaral]

@@heatherrose3554 I do not agree with that statement. Every gun should be checked to make sure that it had no bullets. Any "blanks" that was going to be used, should have been provided by her. I am sure the fact that "this is a Hollywood movie, and everyone wants things rushed did play a factor, however, safety was her job, in which she failed miserably.

[@luishicks2942]

It was nice to deal with you

[@mandelbonsaint3337]

Thanks a lot!

[@georgeboholyubov7270]

Well received!

[@davidflechler9738]

Training is the key. Every shooter, actor or not, should know what he is shooting. He should have to watch the weapon be loaded or load it himself. I would never trust someone else to load my weapon if I was pulling that trigger, especially knowing that it was directed at someone. Even in their general direction. Just saying, not blaming. It's a terrible accident and I hope this changes the industry' practices. I feel bad for all those involved and think that gun safety is something everyone should learn. Maybe, even if you don't like guns, but definitely, if your going to handle them..

[@CheyennefromTaos]

Well, by that theory, Halyna was responsible for her own death. She trusted the armorer and AP, just as Alec did. #JusticeforHalyna 💔💔💔💔💔💔

[@NefariousEnough]

That isn't how it is choreographed or orchestrated but is a perfectly reasonable methodology.

[@yareklipinski]

I suspect sabotage from Trump camp.

[@McGovern1981]

Exactly of you're an actor using real guns you should be trained. Isn't that what they preached for the rest of us? Also it'd make your role more believable knowing what you're doing. See the other comments about Keanu.

[@bmcg5296]

A tragic incompetence from someone or somewhere! Firearms always need checked just before use to the final firing of that weapon!

[@bighands69]

It may just be an accident or a malfunction.

[@jo_clarke1960]

@don s you sighted the perfect reasons as to why there is no such thing as an "accident".

[@robinfleet7094]

As I understand it, the Armorer for a production is responsible for maintaining and securing all weapons on a movie set. If she did not know where the live rounds came from she failed in her mandate, therefore responsible for the accident.

[@Syncopation24]

Criminal negligence at best. Her job dictates the safety of these weapons is her responsibility. She should face consequences.

[@janinewetzler5037]

If that armorer was trained by her father, a vetran in the field...than he would have taught her that all, ALL responsibility for weapons on set lies with her and take the blame. We do have to recognize that this particular production was rife with irresponsibly done jobs on set, and safety regs. overruled and not followed throughout production. That the assistant producer has not come forward and taken any responsibility for 'direction' yet, is ridiculous itself. Lawyers for these parties are not doing their clients any good by advising against stating what was going on on set.

[@corieolgora7777]

nice to hear from you

[@carolkeller8516]

It was great to work with you

[@howdareyouexist]

baldwin pulled the trigger so he is ultimately responsible

[@carlosrivas3837]

We love you Alec . Please blame the Hispanic girl. They told you it was unloaded and all you did was point it center mass at someone and pull the trigger to verify

[@mandybellep230]

Why they don't talk more about they is crazy .seems they are making baldwin out to be the victim smh

[@carlosrivas3837]

@@mandybellep230 These people are powerful. Only Hollywood and Clinton’s can get away with murder. It’s the money….. I accidentally run over a rattle snake, I would be in prison immediately. But I’m just a poor kid, but Biden says I’m as smart as white kids. I guess that’s a nice thing for him to say ???

[@rayleigh8]

So she was the one responsible for safety and she’s saying there was a lack of safety meeting. Well isn’t that your responsibility?.

[@keng4847]

@joseph boyat So you can't resist bringing your politics into this, huh?? Go away.

[@bighands69]

How do you know she was in charge of safety on the production. Or are you just guessing.

[@keng4847]

She was in charge of the guns. That would be just ONE ELEMENT of "SAFETY" on the production. She would not have been in OVERALL CHARGE of safety on the production. There would have been higher-ups in charge of that. From what has come out, it was the assistant director who was directly in charge of that. She claims she asked for meetings on SAFETY and was denied.by higher-ups

[@LuciFeric137]

She should be doing hello kitty tik toks not handling firearms

[@muffinman8744]

That's kinda messed up to say. For a couple reasons although I see your point.

[@luishicks2942]

It was nice to deal with you

[@mandelbonsaint3337]

Thanks a lot!

[@MaxMakerChannel]

If you are responsible for guns on set you are responsible for checking them.

[@beastlyidiots9232]

It doesn't friggin matter if she knew or not about live rounds anywhere on set...it was her responsibility to know what was going on with the weapons. Period!!!

[@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481]

@Robert Hunt Intent or negligence is required for guilt.

[@edmaphis9805]

@@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481 Yes, negligence.

[@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481]

@@edmaphis9805 It’s not negligent of Baldwin to trust his film crew who told him the gun was safe. In film, the actors jump off buildings because the film crew told them it was safe.

[@Maximustard]

It’s not her job to follow the gun around the set, and if someone slipped a live round into the gun? What would you expect her to say? You hate women you sexist beast

[@halweiss8671]

I agree that the weapon should have been inspected, but I don’t agree that it doesn’t matter how the live round got there.

[@MishaMishaSoprano]

There had to be failure after failure after failure for this to happen. When I listened to the armorer on the recent podcast (Voices of the West, 9/11/2021 episode) I was dumbfounded by how unprofessional and ignorant she sounded and didn't appear to take her role seriously. As some one who is very familiar with firearm safety, has had tactical training, and has real firearm experience on stage with blank and dummy rounds, this interview made me extremely uncomfortable. She had 1 hour to talk about her job and she never talked about safety, not ONCE, even when she was handed the opportunity! Sounds like drawing, pointing, faking recoil, and how to wear a belt/ holster were her primary concerns. I got the impression that this is someone who shouldn't even own a firearm, let alone work in a firearm related industry or be training anyone. She was even dismissive of those not wanting dummy rounds to look like live rounds (with bullet). What was that word salad about being scared of loading blanks? Seriously? Red flag after red flag in her interview and, if members of this and other cast and crew are right, she (and AD) repeatedly violated BASIC (and I mean basic) firearm safety rules. IF what has been said is true, the one who should be the most responsible individual on that set for firearm safety may have been the most irresponsible. The AD had already been fired for disregarding firearm safety. The armorer may have disregarded basic safety rules in her previous job and two discharges on what was supposed to be clear, sweeping firearms across human bodies, etc. And if true, shame on decision makers for expecting the armorer to fill two jobs. Will be interesting to hear all the info, when available.

[@danielbean868]

Ditto. I really wish the media would release more of the audio instead of repeating the same lines. The hosts kissing her ass were cringy as hell. I feel like few have listened to the podcast in its entirety.

[@briang.7206]

I read that she had 8 years experience handling guns with her father prior to this.

[@sallydavidson4471]

@@briang.7206 supposedly her father was an armorer for many movies and has a stellar reputation. Unfortunately when offspring follow in their parents foot steps into a "family" business it often leads to failure because the kids just don't care or have passion for the business like mom or dad had! In this case it's way worse then a failed family business!

[@alisongreen7576]

"failure after failure after failure" is dead right. I used to be a doctor and whenever fatal or disastrous medical incidents were honestly looked into (which was almost never) - that is exactly what you find- a catalogue of mistakes, some honest plus some careless plus often other factors (the most experienced person being unexpectedly absent for instance) that all came together on the same day and caused a "perfect storm". Almost always there is somebody who saw the danger or one of the errors at some point but said nothing- medicine is very hierarchical and I expect film sets are very similar- nobody challenges the people higher up the "food chain"- because it ends your career if you do.

[@mehere8038]

@@alisongreen7576 Additionally Alec Baldwin is known for having a short temper & I would imagine he could be pretty terrifying for a young girl to stand up to & say "no" to. That was her job though & she shouldn't have taken it on if she wasn't up to it & willing to do it

[@shanejohns7901]

It's really not that complicated: If the gun fired real bullets, then it was NOT a prop gun. This gun fired real bullets, ergo it was not a prop gun.

[@thegenialdecepticon5244]

If you're the armorer on a movie set, and you have no idea how live ammo got onto your set then, well, you're not a very good armorer at best, and criminally negligent, at worst.

[@eric3434]

How is she criminally negligent? She didn't commit any felony. She's likely civilly liable. But Baldwin fired the bullet so the responsibility of that bullet is on him.

[@ricardosullivan4210]

Yes,I confirm.

[@luishicks2942]

It was nice to deal with you

[@mandelbonsaint3337]

Thanks a lot!

[@georgeboholyubov7270]

Well received!

[@mr.winkie]

Doesn’t matter where it came from, she failed to check the gun. It’s her job. It’s her responsibility.

[@phillyphil1513]

that's a bingo.

[@eric3434]

It's Baldwin's responsibility to clear the gun before practicing with it. Would you practice gunslinging with a firearm loaded with blanks? Blanks will still send you to the hospital, and blanks still kill people if within a few yards of the muzzle.

[@Gfp1995]

@@eric3434 you don't know how a film set works

[@Maximustard]

@@Gfp1995 you certainly don’t know how a film set works, your protecting a white privileged male at the expense of a young Latino women, you’re a racist and a sexist. Silence is violence, Baldwin has been silent

[@liamjohnhawkins4212]

@@eric3434 what would be the point of having a firearms specialist on the set then if every actor had to check what they were given.

[@jaydurych]

It’s the armorer’s job to know where the live rounds came from.

[@Geissele_match]

A real gun used as a prop is not the same thing as a "prop gun". There is obviously way more to this story.

[@bradywb98]

Yes it is.. the public perception of a prop gun being a toy or fake gun is not accurate. Any gun used as a prop is… a prop gun.

[@VisceralCarbon]

They use real guns as prop guns , with blanks. The only time it’s fake is when it’s holstered

[@LeopardJoy]

The word "prop" is just short for property, as in property of the film production company, or the prop house from which it was rented. It's just not Joe Crew Member's gun taken from home and brought to the set that day. Everything on a movie set used to tell the story is a prop. It could be a working lamp. Prop doesn't mean fake. I wish people would get a handle on this.

[@haroldkeller4593]

Yes,I am still interested.

[@ricardosullivan4210]

Yes,I confirm.

[@E-bikeeverything57]

She had no idea what she was doing just riding on her family's experience.

[@dystopian-oo4ud]

Then why was she hired ?

[@askaround5371]

The REAL question is who had ACCESS to the gun. It could be her responsibility......but STILL have no idea how it got there. Was she the ONLY one that touched it? Seems to me like someone is taking advantage of an innocent, inexperienced child.

[@haroldkeller4593]

Yes,I am still interested.

[@bipedalbob]

@@askaround5371 what child?

[@ricardosullivan4210]

Yes,I confirm.

[@jennifer86010]

Baldwin is the executive producer of this film, which makes him totally responsible for all the actions, outcomes and employees working on the film. He can't shift the blame to employees, or to another larger production company or its executives, since Baldwin IS the head of this movie, and all the employees report to him.

[@justinatest9456]

100%. It's very clear that there was a complete disregard for safety on this set. Baldwin was the most powerful person on the set, it was his production company. He ran the set exactly how he wanted it. Multiple accidental discharges leading up to the shooting, and he kept plowing ahead. Anyone who cares for labor rights, and workplace safety ought to be outraged and calling for his head. Watching liberals shill for the powerful and wealthy is always interesting. "He's just an actor!" Gross and pathetic.

[@jacobmccandles1767]

Alec Baldwin the Actor is actually not culpable in this case. Alec Baldwin the producer....not so much.

[@hardeez1]

What a nasty young "woman". Who in their right mind would let this person anywhere near a firearm?

[@Jack0fAllTrades]

Who hires a 24 year old armorer too

[@alisongreen7576]

@@Jack0fAllTrades I was a doctor at 24, working 72hrs a week, with access to lots of things that could kill people. A 24 yr old soldier or police officer has a lethal weapon. It's not about age, it's about training and attitude.

[@Jack0fAllTrades]

@@alisongreen7576 At 24, you are still in Residency. You are still under direct supervision under your senior medical physician. I have relatives who are physicians.

[@alisongreen7576]

@@Jack0fAllTrades When I was resuscitating people at 3am, my "senior medical physician" was at home, asleep. For one memorable week, of my three seniors, one was on holiday, one was on paternity leave and one was in the ICU recovering from a cardiac arrest. I had been a doctor for nine months. Supervision? Not so much....

[@hardeez1]

@don s because she is

[@kevinleblanc47]

Claiming she did not know where the live amo on set right away is a breach of her role the whole set is her responsibility. She neglected to infource her position as Armorer, she should have walked off set in protest, so by staying she assumed the responsibility of the Set so now she should face the consequences for her decision that's why she was getting the big bucks and a chance to advance her career bad move but she made that decision Herself and people got hurt and died so sad but true and should be held accountable to discourage a repeat performance from others trying to please production companies over the rules of the Industry. I would not take on the job as Brain Surgeon if asked just for the money.

[@lostfan5054]

I think her point is that someone else snuck the rounds on to the set without her knowledge.

[@roscosanchez4649]

Alec Baldwin shot the gun. He should have cleared it, and checked the gun for what kind of ammo he firing. Its Baldwins fault. He shot the gun like an idiot without checking his gear.

[@julianoghary3848]

Received, thank you

[@RanaKhan-qs8hh]

Yes,I have received it.

[@carolkeller8516]

It was great to work with you

[@CharlotteLondon]

How would a prop gun shoot anything? Forget that there was a bullet in there, that was a gun, not a prop.

[@Gonzalezelvis47]

She’s still legally responsible is her job lol

[@bighands69]

Not necessarily and you are only guessing.

[@michaelgrabianowski6567]

The live rounds came from her inability to do the job she was hired to do. All she had to do is clear the weapon before she handed it over. Case closed as far as responsibility. Who brought the live rounds is another investigation. Let's not mix the two together.

[@jeremylawrence5855]

It is also a fundamental safety procedure in weapon handling across the world that if you’re given a weapon you check if it’s loaded and make it safe if it is, it’s the same if you pick a weapon up before using it!

[@leagarner3675]

Is it possible that she did not hand the gun over - that someone else did it while she was tasked elsewhere? In that case, it is not her fault. Yes, it is her responsibility, but someone else may have taken on that task without her permission. Let's get the whole story.

[@michaelgrabianowski6567]

@@leagarner3675 She had the option at that point to either shut down production or her department. Quitting and walking off the set would have been the final but effective method to put a stop to the madness.

[@michaelgrabianowski6567]

@@jeremylawrence5855 You are correct considering you are being handed a real weapon. These are prop weapons that are not supposed to handle live rounds. Do you check your child's toy gun before he plays with it?

[@leagarner3675]

@@michaelgrabianowski6567 Maybe. The culture of guns may have been a factor here. If everyone is comfortable with firearms and even 'play' with them on breaks and it is protocol to have the guns lying on a particular table, then it may be that the error was in someone else doing her job without her permission. I don't know yet. Just looking at all the angles.

[@vrvaughn]

It was her job to keep the weapons in a locked gun box. It was her job not to leave weapons unattended on the set. It was her job to make sure no one else handled the weapons. It was Production and The AD’s jobs to make sure these protocols were followed. The armorer and the 1st AD who handled the weapon were both criminally negligent.

[@tabithatotten]

The Armourer is an armourer for a reason. The buck stops with her

[@mikespencer4922]

Nope. The responsibility remains the person who is aiming the gun and pulling the trigger. This sounds like trying to apportion blame on some poor patsy.

[@sm512]

Except it doesn't, in reality...it depends. If someone grabbed a gun without her knowledge and gave it to the actor, she isn't responsible. If she gave it to them then that's different. Sounds like a bunch of people doing what they wanted to, to save money, which also goes to the producers.

[@darlingdear2687]

@@mikespencer4922 Nope. If an actor points a gun at me, there is no way I am going to trust his ability to check the gun - I expect a professional expert hired specifically for that to check the safety. Which is exactly what the protocol is and which is exactly why the sets hire these experts

[@mikespencer4922]

@@darlingdear2687 and that protocol worked did it??? No.... The movie industry should follow military standards. Tried and tested protocols. Idiots and guns are a bad mix.

[@darlingdear2687]

@@mikespencer4922 "and that protocol worked did it???" it was not followed

[@susans.2109]

So you’re placing blame elsewhere because you couldn’t get the training & help you needed to do the job you were hired for?? Yeah not buying it because she took the job.

[@thegenialdecepticon5244]

I think they said she was 23 or 24. I mean, don't they have to apprentice for something that serious? In some states, you have to be a journeyman plumber for a minimum of SIX YEARS just to become a licensed craftsman. A PLUMBER.

[@telebubba5527]

I blame those hiring her. If she wan't properly trained then she had no bussiness being there. They all just went for a cheap shot (pun intended).

[@Gfp1995]

@@thegenialdecepticon5244 that's the problem on the film industry. It's fuelled by nepotism, favours, and an oftentimes an archaic "cool kids club" that doesn't teach and train up new crew members. I work in film and have seen all walks of these issues. There is no apprenticeship system in the North American film industry, just a bunch of old bigoted pricks who put up boundaries for new hires that make it impossible for anyone new to learn. I still put the blame on her and the AD because it was their duty to maintain safety. End of story.

[@georgeboholyubov7270]

Well received!

[@thein-famouselguapo15]

She is the prime example of getting the job because of who she knows. Often times the person most qualified gets passed because someone less qualified has connections.

[@mcm8737]

She has one job? KNOWING THAT STUFF IS HER JOB!

[@bighands69]

And what if it is not her job?

[@sandpiperr]

@@bighands69 She's the armorer! What do you think the armorer's job is?

[@Jack0fAllTrades]

@@bighands69 that’s the responsibility of an armorer.

[@sugadagud3093]

@Mark Taylor True but someone got shot and she giving that excuse.

[@shadzmunisworthless765]

@@bighands69 She's in set with actors and cinematographer , what kind of stupid question is that .

[@Droskie83]

LOL, They keep using her 18 y/o bathroom selfie of her. The most recent pics of her shows that the wall came early for this poor soul.

[@abstr4cted496]

Hahahaha

[@fredchester921]

LET'S REVIEW. Actors are responsible for knowing their lines and acting. Armorers are responsible for the prop guns and weapons on set. Right Wingers are responsible for spreading lies and hate. And blaming actors they hate for everything under the sun.

[@MavicAir1]

Please people. This whole prop gun thing is a joke. They are real guns with literally prop ammo. (Blanks with no projectile). People were using this gun for target practice during a breaks etc and a proper experienced Armorer (she was not) would not let this happen. That means there was live ammo on the set. Someone died here.

[@zipzzo]

You misunderstand what the meaning of "prop" is. Prop is simply short for "property". A real gun can still be a "prop". Prop simply means it's being used as a gun in a movie/stage scene, and is using blanks. A prop can also fire a live round (which is what happened here).

[@Maximustard]

You’re repeating unsubstantiated claims, you are fake news

[@mhall801]

Wonder why CNN can’t report the truth.

[@jimmcloughlin]

@@mhall801 Or why the gun was used for target practice by the previous team who had just resigned? They are not in the clear by possibly mixing ammo.

[@IansMusicBox]

Yes, you might be right, but CNN purposely uses misleading language to obfuscate truth, minimize or maximize a perception of guilt ( based on political agenda), and manufacturer fear to control their audience. That is who you are defending, fyi.

[@JamesAllmond]

She was the only person who should have had ammo and access to the prop weapons on that set...she is the responsible person, it was her job. Sucks to be her, and the 3 victims.

[@markwarren5644]

NO ON SHOULD HAVE LIVE AMMO ON A MOVIE SET, PERIOD

[@bluelagoon1875]

Again, the fake news brings a story to the public and the public runs with it, hook-line-and-sinker.. even though Nothing makes sense or adds up.

[@henrypierce8010]

And that does not excuse Alec Baldwin from performing a final safety check on the firearm.

[@shiftyeyesnv8352]

Someone who was anti gun kills someone with a gun. The irony

[@reason6835]

We already know that they were target shooting ("plinking") in their spare time. THAT is how the live rounds got on set.

[@reason6835]

@Loves to Spooge: Clip? It's called a magazine and this was a revolver which don't even have magazines.

[@reason6835]

@Loves to Spooge: Well, no offense, but it kind of shows that you don't know what you're talking about.

[@reason6835]

@Loves to Spooge: You obviously DON'T know everything. Like the difference between a clip and a magazine and the fact that revolvers don't have either.

[@reason6835]

@Loves to Spooge: That is NOT the difference. LMFAO!

[@reason6835]

@Loves to Spooge: Don't need a masters in firearms to know basic things like that. Many revolvers hold more than 6 rounds btw. And if you took the time to look things up before you act like a know-it-all you could avoid embarrassing yourself. The difference between a clip and a mag is that a mag has a feeding mechanism (like a spring loaded follower) and a clip doesn't. Clips don't automatically push the rounds into the chamber. It has nothing to do with it being for a handgun or assault rifle. Most semi auto handguns have magazines, not clips.

[@tnunez66]

Who handed him the gun? That ammo should have been checked by every professional who handled the gun. And if there were no safety meetings then a gun specialist should have insisted or refused to work. The buck stops with her. I bet she thought she was super cool running around Hollywood telling everyone she's an armorer

[@rapsheets4993]

I'm sure it was a diversity hire, with no experience. When there are thousands of qualified people they didn't use Because they were men.

[@hookt422]

@@rapsheets4993 agreed. I am more qualified than my boss is for her job. Alas, she’s my boss

[@dunkk2438]

@@rapsheets4993 She's a woman so she must be guilty. Lmao your sexism is next level.

[@rapsheets4993]

@@dunkk2438 she clearly doesn't even have a basic understanding of firearms.

[@bighands69]

What if she cannot control all the props on set? What if it was tampered with? What if it was just a malfunction?

[@a.barker7792]

If there are no live rounds allowed on set? Then someone brought a live round on set. That smells like a conspiracy.

[@seacucumberocean4082]

Who do you think brought the live rounds? Did they want to practice shooting between takes and then forget to remove all of the bullets or lose track of the last one? No conspiracy as no way to predict who he would point the gun at.

[@a.barker7792]

@@seacucumberocean4082 do you think the woman is that incompetent? Or do all these guns look exactly alike? Because that's the only answer. When I go too the range I can't get in the door with a shell chambered. So that means nobody checked the magazines? Or was this Baldwin's own gun he kept with him?

[@thediddymen1408]

It's OK though, it's only the Armorers job to know these things !!

[@bighands69]

May not be her job at all. We have no idea what really happened.

[@thediddymen1408]

@@bighands69 No, you're right, it could be the Armorer's job to make coffee, or cut the grass..... I mean, why would it be the Armorer's job to check weapons ??

[@amyeastham7939]

Have a great day!

[@CaneFu]

Well....someone is responsible. The person who loaded the gun with live rounds knows exactly what they did and might as well come forward now as they will eventually be caught anyway.

[@eric3434]

Doesn't matter who loaded a bullet into the gun. Only matters who shot a person with that gun. A firearm should always be cleared before it is handled.

[@anonymouse9105]

The person responsible for firearm safety claims not to be responsible. Good luck with that defense.

[@Krispy1011]

The person handling the lethal weapon, the gun, is responsible for proper handling of the lethal weapon at all times - AB is here by charged with involuntary manslaughter!

[@BjManberries]

They use cgi for visual smoke, and a sound company fills in the sounds of guns. Why in the world do they need a real gun to fire a blank? Seems crazy from the outside looking in.

[@EllRiver]

They didn't, they weren't suposed to have live rounds or blanks, but some idiot brought live rounds and used it for target practice, and no one checked.

[@almac9203]

Someone in the industry and a close friend of the deceased cinematographer said a real gun achieves a slightly more realistic result. I guess it is like comparing a CGI tiger versus using a real life tiger. BTW this particular scene did not involve the firing of a blank , the gun was supposed to be loaded with dummy rounds which are bullets without the projectile and without any gunpowder so they are completely safe. The gun was not meant to fire a blank or anything. It was just supposed to look like he was firing. They were using a real gun with fake bullets for the scene but someone put one real bullet into the gun and two experts did not pick it up.

[@BjManberries]

@@almac9203 The live rounds is insane. This may be a game changer.

[@whatabouttheearth]

Someone's gonna have no idea where that jail cell came from.

[@skreety0455]

Sounds like Trump!

[@h2lo704]

She has no idea where the live rounds come from? That's criminal negligence there.

[@saint6563]

She actually 'thinks' saying she had "no idea" is an excuse to her deadly failure in doing her job. WoW

[@msabccbscnnoanfoxnews]

If she had no idea then she had no idea what else is she supposed to say

[@Williamb612]

Elizabeth Holmes and Barry Morphew use that excuse as

[@henrypierce8010]

Alec Baldwin actually thinks saying he had not idea it was loaded and then blames a woman for killing another woman is an excuse.

[@msabccbscnnoanfoxnews]

@@henrypierce8010 That’s how it works on a film set the actors are worried about their performance and their lines the armor is supposed to secure the gun. The Armorer is a weapons expert Alec Baldwin is not

[@davidanderson6100]

Having an attorney give that statement says alot. She says safety is her priority, ask Nick Cage.

[@carlosrivas3837]

It’s all her fault. Alec only pointed the firearm center mass at someone and pulled the trigger to verify it was unloaded

[@davidcopperfield-notthemag397]

Not! This lady is supposed to personally check the bullets right before giving it to a actor. She didn't. She did not keep the guns and ammo locked up. They were left laying around. Others did target practice with them. She has been sited for this kind of thing before. She better be arrested and indicted.

[@maroragoltsman1655]

She pulled it from security box, fully checked 3 guns , presented them to AD for viewing , and then placed it back to security box , and then gave it to AD. By Covid policy on this movie production, the Armorer was not permitted be on the set . The further responsibility for security of guns and giving to Baldwin on the set was laying on AD.

[@mustafa1name]

Absolute clarity from an armorer that it is the armorers responsibility, an absolute and comprehensive rejection of those disgracefully blaming the actor purely for political reasons while pretending otherwise. They have no shame. The suggestion here seems to be that the armorer did not have the strength of character to stand up to management who's decisions were compromising safety. It seems wrong that the guns were left outside on a tray. That arrangement possibly had a key part to play in this tragedy and it would be interesting to know who is responsible for that, and why the armorer allowed it. The main red flag though, is why was she employed in two roles. That immediately breaches safety. Management seem to be heavily implicated.

[@nosoupforyou425]

Wonder if alec is the reason she was in 2 roles... he is the reason for the death.

[@Snowcat-rg7bz]

That again would be Alec Baldwin, who was a producer. You always check a gun that is handed to you. If he had, the woman would still be alive.

[@Bohdisattva]

The person operating the firearm bears sole responsibility. Firearm handling protocols do not change just because celebrity morons were holding the weapon. If you touch a firearm you must know how to operate it and that means you know to check it every time no matter how many times it was checked prior. These people are absolute morons saying the responsibility is the armorer’s.

[@darlingdear2687]

@@Snowcat-rg7bz There are different types of producers. Alec was a creative producer, aka - looking after acting. There are 4 producers and 4 executive producers. You obviously don't know what you are talking about

[@peterdragon6367]

If someone hands you a firearm, YOU are responsible for where it’s pointed and if it’s loaded, and keeping your finger off the trigger

[@grubbs517]

The production company was flying around on the cheap. The armorer had other responsibilities as well as her primary job. Safety concerns were voiced previously by others prior to the incident. This is no different than a high-volume factory floor - the higher-ups were attempting to jam productivity over legitimate concerns of workers.

[@gunnyo50]

To me when I first looked at the movie's armorer and the fact she only did the job for only 2nd time in this role I knew something like this would happen. You cannot rely on inexperienced ppl to be in charge of something so important as making sure there are no live bullets on the set. She's literally a kid compared to some of the actors on the set and you need more experienced personnel when it comes to using prop guns on a set to make it safe for the actors. This whole thing was an almighty shitshow from top to bottom. This should be a major warning for low-budget productions going forwards to get their shit together properly.

[@mandelbonsaint3337]

Thanks a lot!

[@georgeboholyubov7270]

Well received!

[@chasrmartel4777]

Anyone who points a firearm at a person and pulls the trigger without confirming the firearm is unloaded and incapable of firing a projectile has committed negligent homicide.

[@bayview7580]

The AD does not handle a prop gun. The Actor never points any gun at a person, ever, especially a DP who could watch a monitor.

[@rapsheets4993]

It's a gun. Not a prop

[@jantschierschky3461]

@@rapsheets4993 everything on a set is a prop, even firearms

[@garynorthtruro]

Then WHO IS????

[@garynorthtruro]

@@rapsheets4993 Huh???

[@rapsheets4993]

@@jantschierschky3461 lol. That's not how it works my dude. Just because I'm playing dress up and recording it on my iphone doesn't make it prop,it's still a gun. Doesn't charge the fact.

[@robman247]

Did they dust the case from the live round for finger prints yet? That’s where the finger will point to.

[@Elemental_Entity]

No the idiot armor immediately took the live round out of the gun after the shooting and cleared the gun of rounds tampering with evidence. Everything she's been telling people has been a lie. There was over 500 rounds on the set of blanks mixed with real bullets. She said nobody was using her guns for shooting during down time which was a lie. She said she does not know how a live bullet got into the gun yet she's the one who loaded it.

[@mm-tc3kt]

Armorer breaks silence long enough to say "Who knows ? I didn't bring live rounds to the set." Allow me to suggest that Alec Baldwin got set up, by somebody who wanted to get even , through an "agent" onsite. Who could possibly have anything against Baldwin ? Oh yeah, that guy, the one infamous for reprisals. His supporters are said to be everywhere.

[@deborahmulkey1627]

Agreed! This is not that far fetched... And it begs the question why the orange one hasn't made any idiotic statements about this incident..... 😑

[@redbaron8130]

AS far as I know, The Armorer isn't in charge of set security, that is a separate thing. She was also the Props Master which is crazy. Security of the weapons, yes, but if someone is wandering on set between set ups and messing around with the weapons, who's at fault? Maybe she should always ave the weapons in sight? It's a failure on all levels.

[@bluelagoon1875]

This is just one more incident that doesn't make sense, and things just don't add up. We will never know the truth.

[@GreenCardShow]

there are pictures from the set where revolvers are just sitting on a plastic table in the middle of the field with no locks, no metal boxes and nobody around protecting them from anyone. She's kinda crappy armorer in this case

[@MarcosElMalo2]

There should be a locking box or case on a cart. It should be part of her kit (for which she receives a kit rental). If she doesn’t have one, one should be rented for the duration of the shoot. She should be on set whenever firearms (functional or not) are being used on the set, and the moment they’re finished, she collects the guns and locks them up. The only person she directly answers to is the property master, in the case that someone else makes a request she is uncomfortable with. If she was put into an impossible position, she still shares in the blame for not making firearm safety her priority. (This is also one of the cases where she can tell the property master to F.O.) Honestly, if the terms of the job made it impossible to do the job, she should have turned it down and/or walked.

[@cropcircle5693]

There is no "wandering on set and messing with the weapons." They're supposed to be locked up when not in use and handled only by a weapons master or talent. Not random crew, not the AD, no one. It's not a security issue unless they were reported stolen. The reality is she was either part of the recreational use or she turned a blind eye to it and left the guns accessible to crew. Crew have stated that they had been shooting the productions guns with real bullets on the set for recreation during down time. All of that is a violation of protocols. I can't wait to hear what the insurance company says about all this. There are so many things that ruin an insurance policy here.

[@Gfp1995]

The armourer is in charge of security and safety as it pertains to weapons. I work on set in props, I've had to deal with weapons on set. There should be a lockbox or a secure area for weapons to be kept - even fake weapons need to be under control of by the armourer and/or propsmaster. The AD and PM is then in charge of the overall safety and communication between departments.

[@MrGhosthacked]

LOL, she doesn't exactly look like someone with a CCW or first arms safety training.

[@MatthewMorga]

It was her first time they should had someone who done it longer or had someone with her. It a good bit of everyone fault almost everyone

[@MrSlugny]

@@MatthewMorga second time tho

[@mp5249]

@@MatthewMorga theyhad people quit the movie sue to negligence. They're lucky they got out before they were shot

[@MatthewMorga]

@@mp5249 true

[@MatthewMorga]

@@MrSlugny really? Man that’s worse they really should had someone who more train on checking those guns

[@devinmounce1838]

Why is this poor girl being blamed? No way she is the only one responsible for checking that these firearms are safe. If I shot someone in the street and said “I didn’t know it was loaded” then I would be charged with manslaughter. Alec Baldwin shouldn’t have been pointing a firearm at anyone without knowing whether or not it was loaded. He is just as much to blame as anyone.

[@gutspipola8886]

Sounds like that whole set was pretty undisciplined. Who was ultimately responsible? The culture of any workplace starts from the top down. Who was at the top?

[@cheshirecat6518]

@King Charles ✔ producers handle the money and funding. Period. Nice try though, trumpy.

[@Gfp1995]

@King Charles ✔ he was a producer, but that isn't really how a film set works. The top down film set environment usually stems from the AD who communicates between the producer, director, heads of departments, and crew members. An AD can make or break the environment on set. The AD is supposed to do safety talks and communicates with the propsmasters, stunt team, actors, and armourers. This is on the armourer and the AD.

[@charlesritter6640]

Alec Baldwin is at the top.

[@charlesritter6640]

@frank bennett because HE is the one who pulled the trigger.

[@gutspipola8886]

@frank bennett he was on the set!!!!!