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[@TheFlamethrowerExperts]

This video was artificially aged. That type of rust is short terms. Plus wood doesnt rust unlesss it was soaked in rusty water. Shame that you ruined a piece of history for views

[@user-xs8ec7yh9y]

i dont get it

[@babysnipergod9278]

I still enjoy watching these restorations, artificially aged or not.

[@TheManoDouglas]

True

[@gavin8681]

Tbh Don't care.

[@romegavadquez6310]

Yes sir, it’s fake as hell

[@PromasterHOF]

About as fake as they come

[@jeffburnham6611]

Probably a replica.

[@thegeneral1100]

That’s amazing!!! How long does it take for wood to rust like that?😂😂😂😂😂 I’ll admit I was born in the night but it wasn’t last night.

[@colinmccann7123]

My son-in-law is a gunsmith this can be two pitted and not even worth the effort.

[@TruthFiction]

I love how the rust even managed to get underneath the protective cloth wraps.

[@davidtaylor8244]

Its funny that cos for how rusty and corroded that was the screws all seemed to come out really easily! where can I get some of that rust, I take it it was out of a bottle. Do these people really think we are that stupid

[@gabecollins5585]

Wood corrodes and gets dirty. I’m sure it’s fake but it would be this way regardless and it’s not rust. The condition would likely be way worse if it was a real one he found and the wood would be badly damaged if it wasn’t rotted away already.

[@TruthFiction]

@@gabecollins5585Old wood turns grey. Wood buried in dirt rots away within years unless it's incredibly dry where it's buried. Europe doesn't have anyplace like that that I am aware of, but maybe. Wood aging next to iron or steel turns black, it doesn't turn rusty. The only way that occurs is if you place the object in a salt bath and let the surface fast rust, turning the water orange and that water stains the wood.. Old rust is darker, as it can undergo several oxidation states. Fresh rust is bright orange.

[@davidwoodard4113]

How did you get the wood to rust?? I've never seen that in nature. You must be some kind of sorcerer.

[@digbiger]

It's called water

[@fat_basturd5345]

@@digbigerwater makes wood rust lol….dumb bozo.

[@trapezoid5810]

It's artificially aged (which I'm guessing you know). Kind of fucked up he ruined the gun for views- hopefully it was already bad and he just made it semi worse.

[@scrappydoo7887]

​@@digbigerno it's not

[@NoIwont]

I especially liked the old rags conveniently located in the barrel, gawd forbid any rust makes it to the rifling in the barrel.

[@neilfisch6533]

Nice vise grip teeth marks on flash suppressor! I'm with the "you ruined it" crowd.

[@pzykezutube1165]

If you accidentally drop your Thompson into a brine filled tank and then forget about it for two weeks, you to can easily rectify your mistake by following along with this video

[@jdesaavedra0432]

I like the rusted wooden stock--it matches the coating on the rest of the firearm. Someone needs to producing a series on faking firearm restorations.

[@TruthFiction]

There's a channel who routinely does weapon restorations and he has a video out that shows you what you should be looking for to identify a fake restoration. Rusty wood is one of the warnings because if it was in the conditions necessary to rust up the metal that much, it would rot the wood, not rust it.

[@OlujaDoTokija]

Backyard Ballistics has some videos on how to spot them

[@CrimsonThunder_]

Although these videos are fake as fuck, it's still satisfying. Also, in case there are people who think this gun is real and they just ruined an authentic piece of history, it's a fake gun as well. You can buy restoration kits online that are simply for the satisfaction of restoring them. You can also see these exact restoration kits in other restoration videos. So don't worry, no actual WWII firearms were hurt in the making of this video.

[@stevebelcher1527]

Where can you but kits like that , that would be great for a wall hanger

[@Knife_Collector]

The gun at the end is a Russian PPS 43.. did the restoration change it from a Thompson to this? Maybe I missed something... hmmmm

[@PieAndChips]

The Thompson is a genuine late production M1928A1, it was not fake.

[@TylerSnyder305]

​@@PieAndChipsthe gun was not fake, it's condition was entirely fake.

[@TylerSnyder305]

Why would this be satisfying when you know they took something that was likely in decent condition ( this was a real firearm, the replicas are not finely milled steel ) then destroyed it with intentional corrosion, just so they can very very poorly " restore " it to a condition that still looks like crap ? Just go watch Jimmy Diresta build something, or watch Mark Novak expertly breath life into an old firearm while making you want to learn everything you can from him.

[@ogenmiller]

Please show me that rust bath where your weapons are aged! It would be very interesting to see what awaits us in the next episodes! We ask you very much! Please! 😍👍

[@gothia1715]

Yep. "Rust" all over the wooden parts...

[@klingonbaronessprincesskar5519]

Dried mud dirt type stuff

[@gothia1715]

@@klingonbaronessprincesskar5519Mud is almost always brown. Tell me why those KZbinrs seem to always get their guns from the places where earth has a red tone to it.

[@rumeunner3245]

Triggered are we? Butt hurt too?

[@biggusdickus5986]

​@@rumeunner3245You seem very concerned about the state of his butt ? 😂

[@joepangean6770]

I bet Mark Novak on Anvil gets a nice chuckle watching this video. That amount of age rust would totally destroy the barrel making it worthless. Besides, rust is oxidation of the iron in the steel. Once the rust occurs the metal pits and can't be renewed. The mating surfaces of the action would have fused and the surface on all parts deeply pitted. Nice looking replica.

[@stevenmcnutt3204]

Damn my first time I've seen rusted wood. and them screw threads looked like new

[@freacadadisc]

and the spring inside , just wtf :))))

[@Laserssafe]

Wow... using steel hammers, a steel punch and Vice grips. ...LoL I seen the flash-hider was changed-out, the other one had Vice grip marks around it from the fool un-screwing it. For me? ...it's Brass, all the way around for the take-down.

[@themightycrixus1131]

Well this guy clearly doesnt know much about firearms and is a scam artist.

[@wari3rkng]

you should pray to the spirits of John Moses Browning and John Taliaferro Thompson for forgiveness for artificially rusting this gun

[@MaxMinXX]

Just curious. how can you tell that he artificially rusted it?

[@wari3rkng]

@@MaxMinXX I’m part of a Facebook student group for a gunsmith school. I don’t have a gunsmith job yet due to certain circumstances but anyway, I shared one of this guys videos and several of them who do work in the industry pointed out that the orange rust was too consistent along the entire gun and could only happen if he did it artificially

[@challiday9009]

Forget the rust, never seen a 28 without the foregrip and cooling fins

[@PieAndChips]

It's a late production M1928A1. The vertical foregrip was omitted from the A1 as it was intended for military use and after about July 1942 the barrels were produced without the cooling ribs.

[@themightycrixus1131]

Its fake that is why

[@rocket5557]

That wood and the tape on the grip are in amazing shape considering it’s almost 100 years old! Nice try, you earned a thumps down

[@stan5513]

Amazing how lucrative this patina simulation has become. This chap is raking it in.

[@alrio8102]

It wouldn't surprise me to find out this gun was buried in the mud for six months, to be made crappy looking before the rebuild. So much of the interior is still cleanly blued. Still fun to watch.

[@gothia1715]

Yep. Obvious fake. Btw, 8:08 is just a nono.

[@HectorYo-js6fo]

Exactly thats all Just surface rust or they boiled it in tomato sauce and im not kidding it will make metal look Orange and rusty

[@biggusdickus5986]

Six months ? Six hours more like.

[@scrappydoo7887]

It's a little bit of hydrochloric acid and water. Job done

[@rbhusana]

I had an old friend who was WWII vet, fought in the Pacific . He was from Missouri and had a little accent. He didn't talk about the war much but once he said " I had a Tommy gun, I got it off a guy. HE DIDN'T NEED IT ANYMORE! ".

[@davergneserge2172]

Bonjour. Perte de temps effroyable pour du faux à tout niveaux. Il est préférable de sauvegardé ce qui est une évidence historique. Après tout ,chacun son délire !

[@colinmccann7123]

It would be impossible to restore this gun because it would have too many pits in the in the metal. My son-in-law is a gunsmith and I see guns that come in that aren't anywhere near this shape and they're just impossible to redo.

[@zonex001]

It is not a M1928, but is a M1928A1

[@ethansee2816]

No its a ppsh43

[@alxandorbond3399]

M1A1!

[@jakewassell8583]

If it was real, the wood, had it been similar conditions to the rusted metal, would have molted away from water damage and mold

[@Strenam]

Lol, all the threads of all the screws are in perfect shape, when you fake stuff, try harder. Love how shiny the recoil spring still was 🤦‍♂️

[@Carlos-uq8if]

Si tiene un guardamanos ya hecho¿ porqué hace otro?. En varias tomas aparecen los dos.😮Que maravilla de metal oxidado,sin una sola marca,ni picado.Milagroso.😊

[@theregularprodigy5785]

always wanted to mount this gun in a man-cave. Glass case and everything. Such a work of art and machinery

[@danielybarra8680]

I'm a gunsmith and you're not, a gunsmith wouldn't do that to any gun.

[@WW1Fanatic]

How’d he go from a Thompson to a PPS-43💀

[@ethansee2816]

Thank you someone who recognises the gun

[@david-yi6dm]

magic

[@user-ed9ru3df3x]

Замечательное видео!!!!!Отличный специалист,отличное оборудование,очень интересно,молодец!!!!!Спасибо за публикацию.😮😊😂❤🎉

[@fahhcue850]

It’d be so freaking cool to actually find one of these, out in the field somewhere and then get it brought back to life like this!!

[@randalramsey605]

When he grabbed onto the Cupps Compensator with ViceGrips I started choaking… pounding out the pins with non-brass drivers got a squeak from gritted teeth… using a STEEL brush on all the machined parts made my common sense warning buzzer go off… I left this restoration feeling like I had internal injuries.

[@evangelinewandering9547]

Forgive my ignorance, but why should you use brass drivers to pound out the pins?

[@randalramsey605]

Steel drivers marr the pins… brass is soft and does not damage the surface.

[@murrayjohnallen5120]

Also, the pin punch was too small. He banged the parts on top of the vise to separate them. When he was tapping out the part with the trigger guard, he was tapping on the guard instead of low down next to where the parts were attached. I cringed multiple times during this. He seemed to be in a rush. Also he scraped the stock, and used sandpaper against the grain. I would have used ultra fine steel wool, and followed the grain. There seemed to be so many dodgy processes, although I'm no gunsmith.

[@linnyw1072]

I am a 60 year old African American woman in a small town in Missouri.I tell you that I find this work so interesting.the shine on that wood is amazing

[@Fapsahoyx]

No one cares what race or gender you are. Stop being a victim

[@user-qw1hz7bt8i]

Какое отношение имеет твой цвет кжи к дереву

[@scrappydoo7887]

Why should anyone care that you are "African" American?

[@genesisarvayo2189]

Me gusta el silencio y la paciencia.. saludos d México muy buen trabajo... felicidades q la pases bien...

[@2t2crash]

Channel locks on the muzzle brake?! 😮

[@juanmanuelcarrerajr5825]

He's a professional to. Make up the parts of any gun or rifle cleanum. You know everything, thank you.

[@XxgoodbudsxX]

This whole thing is fake

[@jonfoster1566]

DO YOU HAVE TO WRAP ALL YOUR "TREASURES " IN FORD WIRE BEFORE YOU BURY THEM IN THE MUD FOR MONTHS AND THEN "FIND" THEM?

[@TheBestOne382]

Aww shutup &stop complaining

[@jamesmoskowitz2897]

Is all the wrapping with gauze and tape and cord actual prep for long-term storage, or just for dramatic effect. Please explain.

[@esdee3729]

It was a make shift fore grip since the original wood one was gone.

[@davidchapman2839]

Uh more difficult to retrieve fingerprints?

[@jonfoster1566]

Yes.

[@johnlheneghan1630]

Actually they used burlap to wrap there weapons for comfort. Nothing was shown about the inside of the barrel.

[@jamesbeemer7855]

Those wood peices were in pretty good shape . But the metal does all the work when it’s fired .

[@WilliamWyckoff-of2ku]

Nice Thompson I had a armory full of Thompsons while in the navy it has a blow back action also

[@SashunOffical]

Crazy how he uploaded the same video twice a month later and still gets over 100k views

[@kevinmahaffey9092]

Those screws look pretty clean for being in a 1928 wooden stock.

[@user-qt1kb2lp6f]

With a 100 round drum magazine it's definitely one of the funnest firearms I've shot

[@visionsick]

How convenient they stuffed and wrapped every important part of the gun for us lol

[@bena2293]

Hey here is a Great Hack to Remove Rust use Molasses and water, yes I know it sounds crazy but have have been Restoring a 1935 Ford Pickup and the 4 Piece Hood was Frozen Solid, I tried WD40, DB blaster, Heat, Cold, and Nothing Worked. I saw this online where a guy in New Zealand was Soaking his Car parts in Molasses and Water and getting Amazing Results, so I got a Kiddy Pool and a 2.5 gallon Jug of Herd Life Black Strap Molasses for cows, poured it into the pool fill it with garden hose. I had to turn the hood upside down on its back with the hood sides sticking out and went to Work.Two days noting but a Frozen hood in a kiddy pool of Black Sweet smelling water.but by day Three of Soaking Bubbles started forming Everywhere in the pool and by day Four it was looking like making Moon Shine. Day 5 both Hood Sides had fallen over by them selves, a light scrubbing with a Green kitchen Scrubby and that hood was rust Free and slipped apart with Ease. So take that Beautiful Thompson Submachine Gun and Soak it for about 4 or 5 Days and it will be Rust Free.

[@turner7928]

The restoration was so complete the finished product wasn’t even the Thompson … just damn

[@HappyChocolateStrawberry-mx9do]

Yep, nice to covering that inner barrel so didn't get rust and damaging that rifling

[@donparker1823]

I had no idea how complex the Thompson was. No wonder the US Army went to the M3 Submachine gun.

[@92littlebluefox]

How did you know the foregrip was gone before you took the rag off of it?🤔🤔🤔 sumptuous not right!

[@jimwatson4513]

It would be nice to have him say a word now & , then over chemicals & details for his great work done !!!!

[@tomperkins5657]

Probably would not give a way his "secret sauce" restoration.

[@waggas0349]

Great job though, having such material and not fixing the vice and deplorable. Two clamps would have been enough

[@kevinmullner4280]

That "Beraking Bad" - touch was nice. Not a hammer of a creative idea, but still....fun. That job on the Thompson sub was incredible. It is worth aspiring to have the end product looking well aged without restauration, which is fully achieved in my view. Great job and fun to watch.

[@ChillWithKris]

Where do they find all theese super rusty weapons that after 1 bath looks brand spanking new?

[@alxandorbond3399]

Но больше всех заржавел деревянный приклад! 😂😂😂

[@leonelaizprua7190]

Siempre habra tontos que se cren muy listos al criticar a este Sr que es un verdadero profesional del arte de la armeria y para que sepas esto no se aprende de la noche a la mañana .esto se estudia...aprendetelo antes de hacer una mala critica..

[@david-yi6dm]

From thompson smg to pps43 truly remarkable the era of anything goes for views nothing to learn from this content.

[@jonmajarucon51]

All the weapons you restore, seem to rust and oxidize and deteriorate the exact same way. . . are you finding them in a lake, stream? mud?

[@LordHumungus-eg2dw]

He finds them in the tub full of chemicals he puts them in to rust

[@jonmajarucon51]

@@LordHumungus-eg2dw Thanks......there is something so deceptive about this restoration video

[@DerOpa.]

I really would like to see, how you turned the gun in the condition, we´ve seen in the begining.

[@druharris1406]

Let's talk about how jet black and shinny those nails looked as he disassembled it lol. Shinny is the new rusty

[@russpeele9882]

It does show how intricate the action of the Thomson is compared to the other open bolt SMG

[@johncantrell8904]

Military guns don't have a Cutt's Compensator either. So it's a modern gun that had the relic treatment done to it so he could restore it.

[@PieAndChips]

The M1928A1 did have a cutts compensator. It was omitted when the M1 production took over.

[@johncantrell8904]

As far as l know real vintage Tommy Guns were 1921 models the military gun was a Thompson M 1.,But AL Capones boys used 1921s. The 1928 was a semi auto only gun made in the 70s and 80s by Auto Ordance.

[@jaxwest6703]

Like the work you did on the for grip wish i had it.

[@just_zoan]

Not me covering my eyes to avoid seeing the welds 20:50 😂

[@howardoller443]

You guys do impressive work, although I suspect the aging is helped a bit.....

[@gothia1715]

8:08

[@howardoller443]

@@gothia1715 There are different videos for multiple different firearms, all under one title which confusingly only mentions one of the videos.

[@themightycrixus1131]

Nah if this was a real gun he would have broken it. Its fake though

[@woofy548]

You must've found all the guns I lost in my boating accident. Every single one of your guns look like you found them at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. I still watch though. Carry on.

[@TomBrach]

Actually Thompson had 5 variants, this one looks correct in every way.

[@WilliamWyckoff-of2ku]

I love my guns while in Navy I still do for home defence only I won't hunt deer either I'd make pets iut of them

[@brandonkinzler3188]

Your channel just did this firearm a month ago. What is the deal guys. Cmon I think this might be the fourth or fifth time now.

[@FrFr224]

Yah they fake all there shit

[@brandonkinzler3188]

@@FrFr224 I know that. It’s Hurting the platform. The same platform for which I have been doing videos for 2 more years than this channel. “The kinzler bros”

[@MIKE_WOLF_GR]

You are right... In every end of an restoration we see every damn time the restoration of an PSH 44.... this channel is almost reckless

[@brandonkinzler3188]

@@MIKE_WOLF_GR it is reckless. My videos are short one firearm. It a real and legit firearm I show all stamps and serial numbers to prove it’s real. Then I test fire them in a vise to see if it’s safe then fire them by hand. Because that’s the point of restoring the gun in my opinion. My channel is “the kinzler bros”

[@MIKE_WOLF_GR]

@@brandonkinzler3188 As an Weaponry- Artillery member I confirm ALL of he's guns haven't Serial number and the process of resorting is reckless . I have restore 100's of colt 0.45 1911 , M14 , M1 garand, and Thompsons with drum magazines, MP5, B.A.R and MG-3 the upgraded version of MG-42 ..Just imagine....

[@r6u356une56ney]

Would have like to see a range-fire test at the end....

[@themightycrixus1131]

it cant fire. This was fake

[@marksanders4657]

Regardless, very good workmanship. You guys need to test fire after you finish it. We'll done

[@themightycrixus1131]

I doubt it would function properly. He hammered and sanded several parts that would be out of spec now.

[@marksanders4657]

@@themightycrixus1131 That's vary good point. I'd clamp it a recoil absorbing gun vice and string the trigger 30 feet away, and "give it a shot"

[@davea3676]

interesting that something that is so rusted has little or no pitting.

[@user-vf7vs8rz2t]

So if you restore something like this, do you then registered it as a curio and relic or is it old enough that it would simply just be restored it or is it exempt? My personal opinion is if you put in the hard work and restore it to safely functioningI think that should bypass any regulation

[@ianclewer6684]

Its weird how everyone weapon looks rusted in same way, like its been artificially painted on ...

[@arianlaser]

👏🏻🙏🏻😊 Video molto ben fatto e assai interessante, grazie. Se anche fosse vero che sia stato arrugginito artificialmente, cosa che mi sembra oltremodo assurda, è comunque validissimo per le tecniche di ristoro del metallo e del legno. Che sia solo invidia quella che provano i sospettosi detrattori ? !

[@TheRealNetworkz]

Hello To whomever it may concern we the people your audience seem to be conflicted you posibly fabricated rust & age on a 1928 Thompson machine gun? Is this rust self inflicted or genuine either way you did brilliant & most of us don't care either way. Just answer the question. -Your fellow audience

[@bartoszstempka3473]

Jak to mawiał mój majster ,,Nikt nie będzie z tego sztrzelał"

[@jamesbeemer7855]

And I think law enforcement was having the same concerns . Because the weapon must be maintained , the concern was being able to feild strip it and not loose those small pieces . The army decided to opt for a simple system . But that didn’t come out till years later . We were still fighting from trenches , with the acasional close in scermish . If only ! But the Thompson sub machine gun , is a good choice for defense . I only heard of them in .45 cal . , which is not ment to obliterate you apponent , but give him one hell of a stomach ache should you choose to hit him with it .

[@gabecollins5585]

People say it’s rust on the stock but they forget wood can get dirty and corrode too. I’m sure he got some reproduction and just got it dirty but it wouldn’t be rust and the stock would likely be rotted away or very dirty if it was a real one he found.

[@dustoff1472]

Does an inoperable/rusted auto weapon need to be registered? Tks

[@kevinrose3958]

Noticed that is a full auto Thompson by the sekector switch on right side! Hope the ATF isn’t watching!

[@garyszewc3339]

Legal to own. Machine guns must be produced before 1986.

[@kevinrose3958]

still requires a class 3 and tax stamp @@garyszewc3339

[@PieAndChips]

You do realise that the United States isn't the only country in the world? These weapons can be found all over the world and Southeast Asia is littered with them.

[@Broody58]

What kind of mind figures out, & makes the parts, to make a machine like that! Especially the era they were made. Didnt the tommy have a hand grip on the front coming down? Or was it optional?

[@Terry3Gs]

The thompson didnt need much work ... BUT it looks great !!

[@darklords1th755]

It’s fake

[@TheBestOne382]

​@@darklords1th755fool so what &&&

[@jimwatson4513]

This fine weapon looks as though its been at the bottom of a fresh water lake for 50 years ??

[@CNYKnifeNut]

Yes, that's exactly what wood looks like after half a century under water...

[@elee3024]

First things first, WD40

[@deathlokmk1]

Never scoped the barrel to show what kind of shape it was in. As has been mentioned, a lot of what was done made my skin crawl by the amateurish way this was done.

[@joshuayoung7246]

You forgot to fake weather under the sling holder,you can see the runs from the paint.seriously just find something that is really needing restoration

[@user-zm8mv7mv2u]

Wow that spring is cleaner than my weapon

[@johngeiger3770]

Was about the write the same thing. He missed to rust that part. 0:42 😂

[@jeffm26]

mind sharing where do you come up with all these weapons...I'd like to have some of these in my gun safe...they'd look cool in there

[@dansyz80]

sand-Paper has a big grade! Take 300-500 ... IMHO

[@kathylong4712]

The springs look too good

[@Andy-Gibb]

It's sad to see these beautiful firearms in such poor condition.😢

[@gothia1715]

Cause he faked it.

[@IRONHEAD12701]

I’d like to see the bore. How rusted/pitted is it?

[@dirkvanerp7332]

That Thompson, is more of a WWII configuration, possible lend lease, while it retains the "Blish'" lock on the bolt, thats the brass piece shown, most WWII versions with the horizontal foregrip and unfinned barrel (all moves to cut costs, speed production), were straight blowback, also the fine Lyman ladder sight replaced with a stamped steel hole sight, rounded to prevent snagging on a uniform, which this has. As well no removable butt stock, which removed easily with a single button depression, sliding off coverting the thopmson instantly to a machine pistol. This all makes me think the gun is a "Frankenstein" assembled piece! Not a factory production gun! Agreed artificially aged for the video!

[@PieAndChips]

It's a late production M1928A1. All of the features are correct.

[@irishgaming1651]

Now if I were doing this I would've sandblasted the gun before blueing

[@briancathey498]

and this was found where ?

[@santipiola2752]

in a rust bath or mud or any form to make a gun look like its rusted but it isin't

[@jonyeager318]

The oxidation on that weapon wasn't old at all and most likely staged but i guess its his money if he wants to show off his craftsmanship, which is really good. I would of chosen a much less historical weapon to show off with though...🤷

[@Bumper776]

That is like the Thompson that Sgt. Saunders did in thousands of Germans in the old TV show "Combat!"

[@gregsummerville8896]

i agree. i immediately could tell the rust was very minor surface rust.

[@Pretty_Boy6]

17:20 Oh yeah, it's all coming together. Also Don't care if it's rEaL or not, it sure it fun to watch and that's all that matters.

[@ronmarvicsin7709]

Ahhh he’s being busted. I’ve noticed most if not all the guns he works on are all the same rust color. I was getting suspicious.