THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES #80 - The LIbrarian

[@freesiamoonbeam734]

Fucking hilarious that all the Entities teamed up to beat up a book collector

[@konkeydongblaster]

That’s what I am saying, they pulled up like they were doing a collaborated gang jumping XD

[@D4wn0fAppl35]

They put aside their differences and decided to bully the old guy. Respect

[@K.Arashi]

@@D4wn0fAppl35 how many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?

[@EVind-xz8km]

I can't help it, the way Leitner says "I was almost beaten to death by an angry goth" is just the funniest thing to me.

[@RustyQuill]

We've all been there.

[@RustyQuill]

I mean... we've all been there... right?

[@calamity2383]

@@RustyQuill I certainly have

[@ahorribleterribleperson]

@@RustyQuill It was the other way around for me.

[@KateCantDraw]

@@RustyQuill I've been on both ends

[@io_online]

Come on lads, just because the dead body is in your shady stalker boss's office it doesn't *necessarily* mean he killed the guy, cut him some slack

[@zanaq3]

I think it says something about jon that they think he would murder a guy and leave him in his office

[@Kassabonn]

Me: "who is this odd old man?" Jon: "statement of Jurgen Leitner" Me: "EXCUSE ME?!"

[@chips3536]

SAME! I THOUGHT HE WAS DEAD!

[@jadina_rtw4198]

SAME I AUDIBLY GASPED

[@gboyv]

I think that was the point ​@@chips3536

[@ericpark4707]

MY JAW DROPPED

[@liaml.e.5964]

Leitner: The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated

[@alexdillahunt6908]

Beginning of the episode: Oh no, Jurgen Leitner! Middle of the episode: He's actually not so bad. End of the episode: Oh no, Jurgen Leitner!

[@simp879]

Oh No Jurgen Leitner

[@ayonixanimations]

OH NO NOW I KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS

[@midnights2631]

I'm confused and concerned

[@hamburgerdog25]

I found him pretty pathetic going through his life story. The guy was an idiot that heralded dangerous things just for keep sake and now half of England is in turmoil because of it, let alone largely other parts of the world already. I mean at least he thought he was making things right but really all he did was run and hide. He didn't track down the books to get them back into the right place or at least a better one, didn't even try to disengage any of them (like how some can be burned), he probably could have spread around manuals just as easily as the books themselves but thats not something that was considered. I'm not saying he deserved to die, getting a beatdown by Gerard was probably enough considering the books weren't actually his making. But he made them his responsibility. And then he abandoned that responsibility and left everyone else to clean it up and die for it. Kind of reminds me of Gravity Falls, yet again. A hubris ridden man, selfish, self absorbed, so caught in his fascination he doesn't even realize that he can't escape it. And when he's gone, everyone else is going in blind and defenseless all because that stupid, selfish man could do nothing but play with extremities that he never should have endeavored in the first place. Damn it, if I don't love this podcast.

[@fevre_dream8542]

@@hamburgerdog25 I don't like Leitner at all. Pompous, arrogant ass. But the thing I dislike most is that he _actually_ sacrificed his assistants to the books to see what they did.

[@TheRealEvilkitten3]

so i say "can i quit my job now?" and my boss says "NO. in fact, i'm gonna frame you for MURDER" "why are you doing this?" "because we're the magnus institute and ~life is a fucking nightmare~"

[@virginiaf4117]

The Delta institute. You'll never escape. Also high quality reference right there

[@TheRealEvilkitten3]

@@virginiaf4117 honest to g-d i'd rather work for the eye than any airline company. i don't care what's trying to kill me it's better than customer service

[@virginiaf4117]

@@TheRealEvilkitten3 fair enough. It probably drains your immortal essence but at least not your will to live

[@TheRealEvilkitten3]

@@virginiaf4117 better a pawn to a sexy spider lady than a cog in the great machine that is society lol

[@ChlorineToast]

BO BURNHAM REFERENCE

[@sevendeadlysins5303]

I love the fact that Juergen and Gertrude are voiced by John’s parents

[@vaxshin]

What!?

[@kuwgel7896]

What!?

[@sevendeadlysins5303]

Alex and Johnny confirmed it

[@cassiemoyles4177]

THATS ADORABLE WHAT

[@zinganeatsr4011]

THIS

[@augustusbrown2914]

“that’ll be Our Gerard” JON, DON’T ADOPT THE GOTH, JON

[@TheNitpickChick]

YES _DO_ ADOPT THE GOTH, JON! 😁

[@unslept_em]

"that'll be our gerard" and only several minutes later would he find out that it really **was** Their gerard. the eye

[@ЭмельГ-ва]

Also im sorry when did he die exactly, cause i think i missed it

[@FH-rp6zs]

@@ЭмельГ-ва Brain tumor.

[@Catglittercrafts]

@@ЭмельГ-ва 2014

[@aw3707]

"we dont have time for you to have a breakdown, archivist"

[@ashofruins761]

There is always time to have a breakdown, librarian

[@headofathousandsheepswool]

Memento mori

[@omgfiredragon]

It took Jon 2 and a half minutes to have his breakdown, The lybrerian is dumb

[@PedroKing19]

​@omgfiredragon Well, 2 and a half minutes is a lot of time when you're hiding from the supernatural

[@undergnomes6248]

I mean he was right they didn't and now look what happened

[@XJiang-un8cd]

“It would explain Michael’s identity issues” I laughed so hard, glad to see that your sass is still alive and well, Jon

[@takeoats]

Jurgen Lietner - Statement regarding his life as a material girl in a material world.

[@cactusc9519]

xD LOL ( nice one )

[@launch_queen]

elias commits murder on tape

[@hermajestythewhat2533]

It's his favorite pastime

[@swiftfeathers7028]

MURDERING YOUR ACQUAINTANCES ASMR

[@maddyc2025]

OH MY GOD-

[@dendakrmelova1201]

n o

[@paulabarnas9859]

Y E S

[@davidnorth6670]

Lmao

[@paulcastle2019]

Thanks for this comment.

[@cutiepie120048]

...I don't like the implications of every assistant Gertrude had dying horrible deaths...

[@krlosz1996]

I mean Sasha got fucking eaten by a changeling so that's one down lol

[@pianos4095]

Me fucking neither

[@Lightning-ik3so]

AND THERE WERE ALSO 3

[@Iquey]

Ya finds out more later...

[@aliyinn3186]

oh no

[@dendakrmelova1201]

jon at the end of season one: trauma jon at the end of season two: more trauma please stop giving jon more trauma he has plenty of that already

[@mimkyodar]

Everything will be fine. He'll get a cosy cabin in the country by the time this is all done, i'm sure.

[@markyjanu10]

@@mimkyodar why do you have to do this to me after mag160 xD

[@mimkyodar]

@@markyjanu10 ;)

[@jaderush4141]

Yes, I'd like to sign the petition of less trauma for Jon, please. I brought 2 028 pens and I intend to use every one of them until they are dryer than the desert of Elias' dead unfeeling heart.

[@frogman9753]

It Only Gets Worse From Here !

[@sealbf55]

day 23 in the chamber they ain't found me yet but when they do they gon surprised

[@AckermanYuki]

OH MY FUCKING GOF AHAHAHAHAH

[@onethiccboi7699]

LMAOAHABS

[@hermazingbartels2377]

The best thing about this fandom is the jokes that the fans make at the expense of the characters suffering and I LOVE IT

[@frogman9753]

I GOT A HEADACHE LAUGHING AT THIS AJDJWKFBS

[@headofathousandsheepswool]

Dude the comments are so much funnier than the podcast

[@cleliea8770]

"Three of them, each meeting an unpleasant end." well then

[@Companion92]

I hope this is not foreshadowing

[@nanahuatli2144]

@@Companion92 I'm 100% sure it is. xD

[@amphitritemists4595]

@@nanahuatli2144 No no no no no Martin has plot armor

[@nanahuatli2144]

@@amphitritemists4595 Hmmm... Even if he does, I strongly believe Jon isn't going to survive beyond the end of the series, so Martin can look forward to that. XD

[@amphitritemists4595]

@@nanahuatli2144 I decided that if they have to die I want everyone to die together. This is the first time I'm listening to the podcast so I haven't reached season 5 yet and I have no clue what happens but if everyone else dies, especially Martin the cinnamon roll, I don't want Jon living with survivor's guilt knowing that all his assistants died because he failed to protect them that would be too painful :(

[@louise7487]

tma scripts: [extended sounds of brutal pipe murder] me: asmr

[@americantoastman7296]

Bruh

[@KenKen3593]

[& clapping ass cheeks]

[@ateawithfreak8681]

scp foundation: we keep things. we keep them. it's very, very expensive and dangerous- lonely man with passion: hold my chthonic books

[@f_mva]

someone please get an MTF in these archives

[@draochvar9646]

Yea, that's the difference isn't it. The SCP Foundation actually is an equal player in the supernatural occurences around them. They have the power to face the supernatural and more often than not they can lock it away. The characters in this? They're WAY out of their depth.

[@dull_demon4717]

@@draochvar9646 One has the power to lock them away or in the case of a certain lizard, allows them to lock it away. The other notices things they miss and fail to mark as supernatural.

[@swiftfeathers7028]

God I had the most horrible dread that Elias was going to kill him and then he did. Being a silent observer in that moment was awful. Hearing the tone in Elias' voice and KNOWING something horrible was coming, and then hearing him beat the poor man to death. Jesus Christ.

[@megalunalexi5601]

yeah the beating to death... took me by surprise. I thought he had a weapon, at least... Fuck, man.

[@nanahuatli2144]

@@megalunalexi5601 I think he had but he still chose to bludgeon him? It was horrible.

[@megalunalexi5601]

@@nanahuatli2144 I think he used the pipe Jon had from before. I just assumed he'd have a gun or something, seems much more his style

[@nanahuatli2144]

@@megalunalexi5601 The transcript mentions a click, and Elias threatened to kill Leitner if he reached for a book (which he couldn't do faster enough with the pipe), so I think he had a gun, but instead went for the bashing. It was probably one more thing that'll fuck with poor Jon. :(

[@megalunalexi5601]

@@nanahuatli2144 Ahh, fair. I didn't know about the transcript back when I was listening, I guess I didn't hear the click

[@rowansnow6579]

I love how Tim's reaction to a bloody corpse is "I told you so!"

[@itsiz9738]

Jurgen "My special talent is acquiring material goods" Leitner

[@ashofruins761]

Imagine if he decided to collect, like, cards or something. He'd have 3 white lotuses from MTG within weeks

[@skul8944]

Elias and Jon have extremely similar voices and I was very confused

[@conandenz8413]

Same i was so confused. Elias' is slightly... Higher? He sounds less strained than Jon.

[@JesseColton]

And ironically Jurgen Leitner is voiced by Jon's irl dad and Gertrude by his mom

[@klltsun_2576]

Same lol

[@Zooasaurus]

@@conandenz8413 Tell what

[@Zooasaurus]

@@conandenz8413 Does it have to do with skins?

[@Falcon-doing-doodles]

The contrast between JL's attitude towards his assistants and Jon's is so interesting. Jon may not like all his assistants, but he went out of his way to protect them from the potential fallout and doesn't want them to get hurt. Leitner sacrifices his assistants to figure out what's in evil books

[@Falcon-doing-doodles]

Also I think it's funny how much Leitner sucks at explaining things to Jon. Other characters managed to do it far better than he did

[@hermajestythewhat2533]

I saw a comment on a later episode a while back saying it's like how much humanity/humane actions & thoughts the Archivist maintains. I have to agree tbh

[@klbzplb]

yeah fr. despite everything, jon puts a lot more effort into protecting & making sure his assistants are alive than basically anyone else in a similar position of power.

[@melissaharris3389]

Jon is a very _humane_ person. He values other people's lives intrinsically and doesn't put others lives above his own. Most other characters show themselves to be selfish in that they value their own happiness or safety over others (usually Jon's) wellbeing. I think the series has a lot to say about the convenience of compassion.

[@Companion92]

that dripping sound... Poor Jon is getting a breakdown

[@bonniecornelius3836]

"we have no time for you to have a breakdown, archivist."

[@proinsiascassidy2888]

I have the most dreadful feeling about what might happen Tim and Martin, considering all the foreshadowing, and Jon slowly falling into despair. I love every single one of them so much by now, it'd absolutely break my heart if any harm befell them... On the bright side, here's to Gerard being the feral goth we've come to know and love.

[@noomre9105]

If they kill off Martin I'll commit some crimes. (Not listed to avoid lawsuits or jail time)

[@LemonRaptor000]

We love ourselves a feral goth boy

[@Inkwellington]

Spoilers for the series ​@@noomre9105 what crimes did you commit?

[@mothmaam5411]

I can't stop thinking of that guy that really hates Jurgen Leitner on Tumblr

[@agnieszkasalach4395]

...might I inquire for details?

[@cractor6307]

@@agnieszkasalach4395 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqKzfGaelseYg80

[@agnieszkasalach4395]

@@cractor6307 This is wonderful, thank you for enlightening me, kind stranger

[@ash.g1310]

@@cractor6307 Holy shit that was amazing

[@tearez13]

@@cractor6307 YES!!! I have had that stuck in my head for days!

[@ot7biasedmashups]

"Of course she did! She had three assistants that met an unpleasant ending" Me: **looks at Tim and Martin in the Michael dimension and not Sasha** Me: Aight we going three for three soon

[@paigefuentes1055]

Omg the fact that Jurgen Leitner is Jonathan's dad in real life 👀

[@nzekwueairel1278]

And Gertrude Robinson is his mother... crazy world

[@reachingzenith7772]

@@nzekwueairel1278 it honestly sounds like Jonny Sims comes from a lineage of terrific voice actors

[@EduardoVazquez-hh5tz]

“I think I NEED some air, I am GOING to have a cigarette” ... Hmmm that does sound like you were rather compelled to get out of the room huh? Little strings pulling you away so that Elias can swoop in huh? A little Web influencing huh?

[@voidjockey82]

Well, he did use the lighter for it after all...

[@dynamicloss1492]

remember kids, smoking kills

[@alabaster_rox]

haha oh shit thats a really good point actually

[@NerveUnderscore]

Oh...

[@omgfiredragon]

Oh my God I didn't even consider that- also isn't addiction a main aspect of the web

[@dionysusxian]

"i was almost beaten to death by an angry goth" is something i never thought i would hear but i appreciate it and will quote that until the day i die, or possibly get beaten to death by an angry goth

[@jadynnkotch1833]

"I'm afraid she's gone." WOAHHHH BROTHER HOLD ON NOW. I NEED YOU TO TAKE THOSE BAD VIBES AwAy fRoM hErE--

[@dracorei5143]

I almost cried. This is not how I thought season two would end.

[@nanahuatli2144]

The end of the first season was scary but ultimately there were a lot of badass shenanigans and adventure and shit. This is... just depressing.

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

I don't know what it is about the hearing medium, but... It's much, much more impactful to listen to someone being killed than watching it, or reading about it. Movies show more, but they rarely give the illusion of being real. I am in actual. emotional. distress. after the last two or something episodes. I need a fucking moment.

[@Fab4Sunrises]

i guess it's kinda like the shower scene in Psycho. What gets you is the sound of knife meeting body. Leaves you to imagine what makes it.

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

@@Fab4Sunrises What I learned watching the modern Doctor Who, contrasted with the old one, is that if you really want to scare your audience (and not have crappy CGI), you have to not show too much. People's imaginations can do better than anything you could- you just have to hint at it. But while you're right, I watched "Psycho", and many other good horror movies, and as I said- nothing has yet filled me with such terror. Of course there were some good scares, but in a movie it's just less impactful, maybe because I'm desensitized to it. Hearing it makes it different.

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

@@calhanlon5568 Thankfully, I don't live in USA, so not every 1 in 133, but 1 in about 1428 people get murdered. So, also thankfully, I have never seen anyone die. But I'm certain you're right about that. A person is alive, and then the next moment, they aren't. Bizzare.

[@tearez13]

@@cawareyoudoin7379 Like in the midnight episode, the only cgi was used to set the scene, the rest of it was just banger acting. And the first appearance of the weeping angels too, Good acting and some simple practical effects.

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

@@tearez13 Practical effects absolutely for the win!

[@GoliathPyroson]

Oh no they assume John did it!!???!?!

[@emmathestonedspider8676]

Well he was paranoid

[@sumitrana2420]

dont worry the tape still is there.

[@maryagrimm8412]

Jon and Leitner having a civilized conversation while Not!Sasha hunts Tim and Martin for sport

[@bug-box]

Listening through my second time now, hearing the way Martin speaks at the end crushes me even more. "Oh Jon, what have you done?"

[@elliotsmelliot]

on my third listen through. it does not get better

[@hermajestythewhat2533]

On my, like 8th relisten. It only gets worse each time. Look forward to it!

[@MrKdv42]

As a Norwegian being educated as a librarian and who is currently working in an archive..! This whole podcast is making my heart, mind and sould feel so fulfilled!

[@bandidocavalier]

If you can make sure to not go into any institutes right

[@cylyte2436]

Tell us if you come upon fabulous wealth and decide keeping mysterious, occult books is your new passion

[@rosemarycat5]

Lietners are the real reason librarians in Night Vale are so monstrous Also, love that Tmi and Martin ran into Helen Richardson. I hadn't noticed that before.

[@wawa2001]

Wait she's alive?!

[@NerveUnderscore]

Wait what??

[@Har1cott]

@@wawa2001late response, but it’s implied they saw her in the corridors as they were trying to get out, but couldn’t or didn’t help her. In the statement when Michael stabs Jon, Michael didn’t want Helen to leave and when she was leaving after giving her statement on escaping the door hallway, she opened a door that wasn’t there and was put back into it! I love all the little details they put into this podcast

[@beetlbrite]

This makes me think of the Leitner book with the giant where everyone tries to stop it, but realize as it gets closer, they can’t do anything to stop it.

[@b-blythe6763]

oh fuck

[@TheNitpickChick]

An apt metaphor! 👀

[@unslept_em]

we're gonna need a bigger countermeasure

[@-S.L.]

only 9 minutes in and this comment scares me

[@toxoplasmagondi]

oh. that sounds like foreshadowing for sure

[@apollyoniguess]

I never trusted elias but not because I knew something was up, simply because he gave me Gabriel from good omens vibes

[@icewave3031]

Yeah same

[@jaderush4141]

I thought we were talking Gabriel from Supernatural at first. He was a great dude, but, same shit: couldn't be trusted. At all.

[@TomEllisLovesU]

OH MY GOD THEY SOUND SO MUCH ALIKE

[@reznikoff97]

JSHSHSBB YEAH

[@CapitanaGabs]

Big same

[@bugjams]

The part about the ant not seeing a whole human, but rather 3 entities, brings to mind when Micheal said, "does an arm own the stomach?" I thought that was a genius tie-in, if intentional. Edit: Nevermind Jon almost immediately makes the connection afterwards.

[@grinstrashcan]

**chuckles** _- That'll be our Gerard._ Aw, Jon! I don't know why, but I find this moment to be incredible cute :3 P.S. Oh. Oh no. The sounds... I'm- *OH NO.*

[@fluffsnake]

wait, Gerard was part of the Institute? I didn't catch that part

[@grinstrashcan]

@@fluffsnake eh, no. Jurgen was telling about a young man with black hair that almost killed him once and Jon recognised Gerard.

[@fluffsnake]

@@grinstrashcan yes, now I know ^^ the way Jon put it though, sounded almost like Gerry was part of the little Institute family xD heh

[@aubarlowe]

@@fluffsnake SPOILERS i mean... technically, he WAS in a lot of ways. Keay's son of a man who worked in the institute and (basically) adopted by Gertrude.

[@imchoosingnottoexist6894]

The way Jurgen Leitner describes defining The Dread Powers is like how putting your consciousness into a computer is described in MAG 65 Binary

[@CytheriaXylia]

Jon's voice when he comes back and finds Jurgens body breaks my heart. Poor guy has been through so much, hasn't even had time to process Sasha's death or that he's an unwilling part of something bigger than he can even fathom, and then he walks in to find the brutalized body of the one person who seemed to have actual answers to the questions he's been agonizing over this whole time. I hope he'll catch a break next season, but I doubt it 😭

[@jeffgoode9865]

Elias and Jon sound so similar, I thought Jon had come back until they started talking about Jon in the third person.

[@hannahcartwright8190]

I heard 978 books in his personal library and I swooned at the thought of having a personal library that big

[@JesseColton]

Filled with demonic tomes of otherworldly Eldritch evil?

[@hannahcartwright8190]

@@JesseColton I mean, I think that goes without saying

[@nanahuatli2144]

But you can't read any of them.

[@tearez13]

@@nanahuatli2144 No, but they look pretty.

[@plxnetastro]

Jesse Colton EXACTLY!!! sign me the fuck up !!!!!

[@wren5926]

Has anyone mentioned the tiny, resigned “oh” from Leitner after John called them a fool bc I just about lost it

[@KenKen3593]

More of a “hm.”

[@AckermanYuki]

the unknowing Not!Sasha: "you'll miss the Unknowing of course,but you wouldn't understand it"

[@mimkyodar]

Good catch!

[@SunnyCapricious]

" Michael's identity issues" me too man. Me too 😔

[@amandanaoexiste]

I'll tell you I SCREAMED when Jon said his name

[@amandanaoexiste]

Also I think it's ironic how people consider Martin to be this sweet little thing when he is yelling at Tim like he has rabies love him

[@neos8421]

So, we all feel the foreshadowing, the gruesome ends, for either the assistants, or the archivist, and i do feel awful about it, but, just as they feel awful about their chances of living, and just as them, I CANNOT QUIT , i want to, i hate these kinds of things, i wanna skip ahead, listen to the end already and be done with it, but i cannot, and i guess i'm just stuck here, listening to it until the end, i think i'll call us The Witness, and i think i will not forget

[@Companion92]

When you can't quit, then the archive got you too

[@ash.g1310]

We're fucked, it got to us. _We have been marked_

[@Misty_Grey744]

@@ash.g1310OH FUCK

[@winterwolf211]

Why would they assume it was Jon when they've seen Not!Sasha.

[@alkalimepie]

i mean, he didn’t really have a liking for jurgen and on top of that, he’s really paranoid so when they found jurgen’s body in jon’s office,, well u get the idea ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@najhoant]

The body was in Jon’s office and Tim already disliked him. Also, why would something that looked and moved like Not!Sasha kill someone with a metal pipe, of all things?

[@jaderush4141]

@@alkalimepie well, I don't think they would recognize him as Jurgen right away. Brushing the pipe mutilation aside, I don't think they actually know what Leitner looks like. After all, they've only ever dealt with his name and his books. And even if they were familiar with his appearance, it'd probably still take them a minute to accept that Jurgen Leitner of all things was haunting the Archive's tunnels and is now lying dead in their boss' office after 20 years of incredibly successful hiding.

[@fmoura98]

Oh God, that dripping sound.

[@tinkerbellqueen6962]

“Statement of Jurgen Leitner” WHEN I TELL YOU I FUCKING LOST IT

[@cactusc9519]

SOME SHIT ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, HYPOTHETICALLY, HIS LIBRARY.... ( if you weren't referencing the meme, i apologize )

[@joserobertozazueta2227]

“Almost beaten to death by am angry goth” will be one of the phrases I’ll never forget

[@JDPlaysMoth]

I love the repeated themes of these beings twisting whatever someone is connected to against them. The librarian being hated for the books he collected, the archivist being blamed for what he's investigating. The head of an institute that tries to record and investigate mysteries, adding another mystery and ending the life of someone who could help save people. There's such a a unique and tragic commonality to it all

[@marinao4412]

28:10 I KNOW he says "I've been _quit_ for five years now" because it makes sense and is also in the official transcript but istg ever time I listen I always hear it as "queer"

[@whiterosesj]

You're absolutely right actually

[@caseylocke4474]

Oh my gosh! You're right! lol!! That's one of those weird things where if you play it over and over and focus on which word you want to hear, "queer" or "quit", you can perfectly hear either one.

[@azulBjort_1406]

I don't know i hear it as Clear

[@inker_monkey]

I CAN HEAR IT 😭🙏

[@TenjoTengeCT]

Man, what a finale. I refused to believe Sasha was gone but shit I guess we really won't see her again...

[@tonio1377]

You know what really ends me? It'd knowing bc of the fandom that this is only the beginning of Jon falling into a pit of despair and bad mental health. This episode, listening to everything while not being able to do anything to help them, that was so frustrating

[@applesource8261]

What do you mean this is only the begining. Nevermind Jon's mental health, I can't take much more of listening to actual cold blooded murder happening. How is it gonna get worse.

[@tonio1377]

@@applesource8261my sweet summer child

[@starryzu4338]

I just started listening to the podcast, and this comment scares me like no other 😃 I don't know what rollercoaster I have strapped myself to, but I guess I have no choice but to continue lol

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

Oh. Well. Sasha is for all intents and purposes dead, and given the fate of the previous assistants, and archivists... I don't like foreshadowing. I really, really hate it. It leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, and I hate it. And the worst thing, I'll probably listen on. Because even if I know what is going to happen, I have that last nasty, wriggling piece of hope that it won't. And that's almost worse than knowing for sure.

[@veronica7426]

your words remind me of Jon

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

@@veronica7426 Thank you, if that indeed was a compliment. I stopped listening after season 4, and am now only learning what's going on trough spoilers from the fandom. I might finish it after it ends, when everything is decided and done

[@williamdavis671]

@@cawareyoudoin7379 I'm mid season 5 and its pretty great so far, I'd say its worth listening to even if the ending will probably be depressing.

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

@@williamdavis671 I'll find out what the ending is, and then maybe listen.

[@lux.illuminaughty]

@@cawareyoudoin7379 I'm not there yet, but in case you didn't know, the last episode has aired. I hope it's all we could wish! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aV7IkJiPe7WdnLc

[@halfchiangel88]

I’m so sad and disturbed now :( I really wanted leitner as an ally John could rely on but of course that would be too easy. And hearing his death was just awful, I was switching between muting and unmuting the audio the whole time, and Tim and Martin thinking John did it was so heartbreaking

[@duckwithbread07]

"Im going to get a cigarette" JON NO SMOKING LITERALLY KILLS

[@noyes1382]

“Statement of Jergen Leitner” I SCREAMED SO LOUD MY FAMILY HAD TO ASK IF I WAS OKAY

[@sandymcneish7820]

I think this franchise somehow just got so, so much better...

[@nanahuatli2144]

That was awful and I hated it. People being helpless and scared make me feel horrible, especially when they end up suffering or dead, and this fits the bill. I'm going to get a warm drink now. Still great work as usual, RQ. You're hurting me but like, with talent and excellent work.

[@ot7biasedmashups]

Now I know Jon ain't just left through a door when Michael is still wreaking havoc 😃

[@stortsy]

Hi yes I would just like to let you know that I’m a first time listener and that it’s 12 am and I’m crying thanks

[@namaschu9418]

Same man

[@rebelliousone6182]

Oh shit it really was Elias behind all of it :0

[@holycarp1676]

It would be really funny if Leitner decided to be a regular ass librarian for the monstrosities. Imagine: a line of not!people, a bone turner, some people from the various cults, Michael just checking books out and Leitner being like: Please return them after you're done with your latest victim :).

[@siiriheikkinen2071]

Becomes even funnier if you imagine all of them waiting politely in line, no need to have bad manners

[@Misty_Grey744]

@@siiriheikkinen2071imagine Michael being a little patient boy/horrific doorway creature🥺

[@siiriheikkinen2071]

@@Misty_Grey744 they were taught good manners after all!

[@tearez13]

_"You have keener eyes than I gave you credit for; I should have expected that I suppose."_ 👀

[@valley2827]

I can't imagine listening to this before season three came out. I'm just now listening to TMA and damn- that cliffhanger got me, even though I don't have to wait for the next season. Ya'll who are veterans, I applaud you.

[@NerveUnderscore]

The goddamn blood dropping... holy- I was ready to hear a body falling to the floor. But- damn it. Please, Martin you are the only soul that probably will have a little doubt with Jon, keep believing in him. He will need a friend, we all.

[@Iquey]

10:24 "the most valuable things always need to be hunted." Ahh he had a hint of hunt in him. Just a hint. Hunting for books.

[@oftheangels777]

“we don’t have time for you to have a breakdown archivist.”

[@_mel_9953]

The super long silence with nothing but dripping after (spoiler) Leitner is killed is the worst/best thing ever. I was not prepared for this. The season one ending was spooky but also fun; there was some humour, some adventure stuff, and everyone made it out somewhat alive. This was so different, but still, I loved them both❤️

[@rob4ctwo]

leitner's voice when he said "of course" at 18:27... spooky.

[@KJ-wm8en]

Same!!! I had to do a double check, don't trust that at allll

[@RoseMultiverse]

nvm he seems like he was a bit of an avatar perhaps or marked or whatever

[@caseylocke4474]

Hi! I just got to Magnus Archives Episode 80 where you were 8 months ago when you noticed that Leitner's voice went evil twice on the words "of course" (18:27) and "'yes" (22:42). PLEASE without any spoilers, can you just tell me if that ended up being important to the plot? Since John didn't react to it and the tape didn't start making weird noises, I thought it might have been an editing mistake by the podcasters...but it seems WAY too obvious and evil and confined to a single word to be a mistake. Could you just tell me a 'yes' or 'no' if it ended up being important to the plot? Thank you!!! :)

[@rob4ctwo]

@@caseylocke4474 its been a while since i listened to tma but i think no

[@achillesjacklyn8944]

I know! I had to replay it to make sure i wasnt mis hearing

[@ClassicNovel]

When this one ended I was just clutching my chest going "ohhhhhh NOOOOO..." Ouch ouch ouch!

[@egg3255]

assistants, maybe you could call them interns..... all dying or disappearing terribly?

[@jonathanarmes6020]

And now, the weather.

[@icewave3031]

Yeah that’s what I thought too

[@fruitygarlic3601]

To the family of Sasha James...

[@lisawilson1010]

I don't know why but I trusted Elias, or at least I never expected him to do anything like that. This season has been absolutely bone chilling. Well done on everything, especially the dripping, it was horrifying

[@saurabhsharma6939]

Only he keeps contact with the Lukas family and has been in the archives from ~30 years so I did have my doubts with him when he said "what SuPeRnatURal? What prentiss ? " Like he didnt encounter anything of this sort ever

[@undergnomes6248]

Imagine working at this guy's library and one day you all just get jumped by all the entities at once!

[@inkdragon3455]

Gore sounds warning Crunching: 27:18-27:36 Dripping: 27:36-28:32

[@americantoastman7296]

Thats why I looooove Nestle ~Crunch~

[@caseylocke4474]

Hi! 7 months ago, you posted the time indexes for a "Gore sounds warning" on Episode 80 of Magnus archives which was liked many times. May I ask a silly question? What were your thoughts behind letting people know about that? In other words, are those sound effects something that bother some people and you were just being kind to inform them? Just curious. Thanks!

[@inkdragon3455]

@@caseylocke4474 This was sort of for me, sort of for others. I have a gore sound trigger, and I will spiral into a panic attack when I hear sounds that are very gorey. I put these times stamps here so 1. If I relisten, I can skip. And 2. If other people need to skip they can. Tma is an awesome series as a whole, and I want other people and myself to be able to enjoy it.

[@caseylocke4474]

@@inkdragon3455 Oh, I see! That's very cool! Thanks for explaining and sharing with others. Much appreciated. :)

[@alpha_wolf220]

i really like how leitner is actually particularly interested in books, not just their magical powers but the actual history behind them, like how he noted the history of the 7 lamps of architecture, and scoffed and calling a disappearance a book

[@thistlepierce]

leitner: "please stop hitting my ribcage with a metal bar 🤓🤓🤓"

[@gulo2476]

Leitner didn't deserve this ):

[@Laure-gv7go]

Well, he's certainly not the most innocent person to die on this show

[@elspeth6244]

He kinda brought it upon himself, especially in his monumental hubris

[@caladaley5248]

Yes he did

[@ragefury1817]

He did kill all the assistants

[@Speckaboo]

He didn’t deserve to die. I mean sure he got a lot of people killed and probably had it coming for a while now but he didn’t deserve to die like this

[@klaushargreevesstanaccount8835]

I feel both like i understand way more of what's going on and also like i have never been more confused. can't tell if jon's gonna get demigod powers or a trip to the psych ward with a 5150

[@jellywiish1340]

I love that with every mystery unraveled, like Leitner and Elias (the TWIST!) other appears - like wait what, what do you mean that the archive have a master?? And apparently ONE OF THOSE ANCIENT MONSTER BEINGS?! Why did you not ask more about that Jon?? I know Gertrude’s murder is super important and all, but maybe, just maybe it would be good for you to know if you work for a literal monster?!! (˃̶͈̀ロ˂̶͈́)੭ꠥ⁾⁾

[@allenl5960]

Things I recognized in Leitner's retelling of the attack on his library: Mary Johnson: A 'cavernous maw' opening below her. Presumably whatever Jared Hopworth was throwing body bits into in ep49. Has connections with the book 'the bonetuner's tale'(ep17) Gregory Todd: Ran into a door that wasn't there. Most likely Michael. Ep 47 is where he kidnaps someone with the 'door that didn't exist', but comes out in multiple other episodes as well. Unnamed staff: Sucked into a giant pile of meat. Possibly the same pile of meat from ep 18. Rooms that 'fell into darkness': Possibly the 'people's church of the divine host', as the reoccurring theme with them are rooms filled with unnatural dark. Edit: 'some even liked the flames. And those that did, I now believe, would have been released to take a different form'. So... the possibility that Agnes was one of the books in Leitner's library that took human form?

[@tearez13]

ooo *takes notes*

[@saurabhsharma6939]

Agnes didnt like flame actually and she died ?? Wasnt she part of lightless flame cult ? A one more thing to add to note A staff being taken from a great hand out of roof, reminds me of "Free fall" where the guy got eaten by sky itself

[@Misty_Grey744]

@@saurabhsharma6939or the hand could be the “anglerfish” in episode one cuz it was described as a massive hand

[@late_prince8945]

I'm so happy, so devastated, so terrify, I feel right now so many things. I love this podcast so so much

[@LyneSoco]

27:17 [EXTENDED SOUNDS OF BRUTAL PIPE MURDER]

[@patrickbailey2799]

Oh man, was it Lightener who was living down here the entire time?!

[@clovercard22]

God that half a minute with only the sound of drip drop drip drop

[@kirbee5966]

i guess you could say elias is the man behind.. the slaughter 🤸‍♂️

[@conibal5045]

the scene with the attack on the library reminds me so much of The Scene in cabin in the woods when the monsters get released

[@nanahuatli2144]

Also I thought the end of the season would be about spiders. Way to keep me on my toes.

[@KemonoPriestessHazuki]

This season finale is much stronger than S1. Omg... That woman in the unending corridors, Martin and Tim met her. Again, the introduction of Jurgen Leitner in one episode, and then killing him off... Omg... I'm quite sure that Jurgen Leitner is speaking to Gertrude's "ghost", it is somewhat absurd to see a man who's been living alone in the tunnels to have more sanity than Jon. Or the people featured in the statements who suffered mentally, due to isolation... He's like more displeased by the hindering actions taken by Elias than fearing for the possibility that Elias has come there to kill him. ... Also... The mystical books... it reminded me of the cards from the anime called Card Captor Sakura. Where cards has em unique quirks and stuff... [taken from tv tropes] One day, an ordinary elementary school girl named Sakura Kinomoto wanders into her father's basement and accidentally opens a mystical tome containing a deck of tarot-like cards. The magical cards are scattered throughout town, each one possessing its own unique power and posing the risk of causing some serious mischief if left unchecked. Kerberos, the guardian spirit of the book, immediately drafts Sakura into becoming a "Cardcaptor" by giving her a magical wand capable of sealing and controlling the power of the cards. Now, with the aid of her best friend Tomoyo, Sakura must recover and master all of the missing cards before they can cause some real trouble.

[@tearez13]

This was a delight to read. 😊💕😺💗

[@Macey88]

I never did trust Elias!!

[@Chatboy91]

This is simultaneously one of my favorite and most infuriating episodes. I was so thrilled to hear we were finally going to meet Leitner. And then Elias had to go and ruin it...

[@maddyc2025]

oh my god, that was...brutal.

[@ayonixanimations]

The sickening crunch of what I can only assume was his skull being crushed repeatedly and then his blood dripping onto the floor was... haunting