Rutherford Interview Reveals Depths of Canucks Dysfunction

[@govindbajwa9931]

I finally understand why older Canucks fans say that there is a better chance of nuclear armageddon than the Canucks ever winning a Stanley Cup

[@NobuhikuObayashi]

We’re 89 seconds to midnight

[@douglasc9182]

Yup. After seeing them lose in 3 stanley cup finals, we got a bit jaded.

[@GingeyGumdrops]

ONE OF US, ONE OF US

[@adamburris1237]

don't get there. Stay hopeful and optimistic. It makes life better.

[@GreggGies]

Having been a fan since they joined the league, it's very difficult to maintain hope.

[@JaredLS10]

Shannon in a padded room wearing a straight jacket staring at the wall. "welcome back."

[@m0j0rising]

😥

[@mNag]

When ____________ favourite team's major organizational issues are exposed Steve Dangle: "I'm going crrrrrrrRRRRRRAZYYYYYYYYYY!!!! THG: "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed, your entire existence is disappointing"

[@timdecoursey287]

He's written a mass of text on a wall in marker with his foot.

[@strahinjagov]

At this point Shannon's gravestone is going to read "Welcome back" followed by an essay on how the Canucks disappointed him

[@NK73080]

He’s written all over the padded room walls 🥲

[@hockeyinalabama]

I still love the meme about Miller driving Elias Pettersson out just to realize there is another Elias Pettersson.

[@yummysatay]

Didn't the Lotto 649 work great one time ?

[@gisellegonzalez3374]

@@yummysatay well, I dont know if it was the full lotto line, but they were on the ice together last night! Several times! I noticed.

[@LindensBloodyJersey]

So much drama. The players will figure it out.

[@bryanjoy6773]

Where is the Meme? Haha

[@birgerfurugard7259]

​@@bryanjoy6773 the people needs memes!

[@edalder2000]

This sort of balanced deep dive is why I subscribe. Thank you Shannon.

[@BestSomebodyNA]

On another note, FUCK THE CANUCKS SUBREDDIT. Do not go to that place unless you want to hate this team's fanbase. In other words, go and laugh at them if you're a Flames or Oilers fan.

[@stefan1132]

Agreed !

[@LSA30]

This. _THIS_ is why Shannon always tells us to enjoy the season your team is having, because you never know what the next one will bring. Fans of perennial contenders like Tampa or Vegas may have high expectations and lose the excitement, but I still wanna remind you all to enjoy each win, because you never know when the next one will come.

[@quackingplatypus]

Bruins and penguins fans about to get to learn this leason

[@mrfake675]

I'm an Oilers fan. The decade of darkness has taught me to be greatful and humble with the McDrai era.

[@ericsummers1230]

As a Sens fan.. I totally agree

[@JapaneseAmericanaJiuJitsu]

Oh yes, us Sharks fans know all about that

[@winkletown8828]

​@@mrfake675 enjoy the regular season.... because as the two overrated and overpaid princesses have shown, there's only zeros in the finals. Better hope that 3rd line is ready to carry again 🤣🤣🤣🤣 McOverrated is a joke, so weak.

[@guybunchofnumbers123]

Vancouver is the Buffalo Sabres of the NHL

[@razvanzamfir1545]

of the West

[@LSA30]

Forever intertwined since 1970.

[@SuperRavensfan101]

@@LSA30 Whoever wins a cup first breaks the curse, but the catch 22 is one of them has to actually succeed

[@HDreamer]

Do you mean the Bills? Because the Canucks at least make the Playoffs.

[@CoopHawke]

​@razvanzamfir1545 think you missed the joke

[@infinity-vm4ul]

I hate when I can hear the hurt in your voice. When you said they aren’t winning a cup in your lifetime I could feel the belief in that statement.

[@JPMadden]

Does he need to pay us for this therapy session?

[@Varonno]

I hate when haters hate the hate. So much hate. Tell us THG how many high picks Canucks have had in the first, second, and third rounds. Luc Bourdon could’ve been great. Rick Rypien RIP. The era where they can tank for a decade is gone. The closest they got to first picks in the first round are the Sedin’s 25 years ago. Since then they’re lucky if they get top 5. Does a locker room have to be Kumbaya? Sports psychology says it will never be fixed in your lifetime. Everyone has to play happy families and buy into the system. Without both it’s toxic and losses follow nevise the greatness isn’t there every game as a cohesive unit who knows the exact right play to make. Move the team to Houston. Find a new ownership group and start working on a new team. Aquilini has been part of the development problem. He’s why I gave up season’s tickets a decade ago. Goalie graveyard. All the chatter? Jim’s getting senile like a US president. You’re a speculation junkie who doesn’t bet. I think no Bettman might help with a new era. West coast Express? Lockout!

[@acrippledstonerz]

i said it about my team then 2019 happened it can happen to any team LGB!

[@GeoCollins]

This interview is infuriating. Not only should a senior member of management (or really anyone) not be going to the press about these things, but the knock-on effects are horrific. Either PR wasn't consulted about this, or the PR team at the Canucks needs to be replaced. The myopia in this singular decision is astounding. They have single-handedly slashed any trade value or leverage they held by broadcasting their desperation and their low expectations, while also potentially decimating team morale at the most significant point of turnaround the team has seen in months. It's no wonder, if there is a locker room issue, that it's significantly inhibiting the team's ability to play well, if they're in an environment where the message from the top is very clearly, 'It's doomed.' If I'm Tocchet I'm banning my players from using their phones or looking at the internet. Either this was a conniving attempt by the org to shift blame firmly onto the players, or it was the most poignant demonstration of gross mismanagement we've seen for quite some time.

[@rossredhead2020]

Well said and I couldn't agree more!

[@badassunicorn5351]

THIS!!! Very well said. It’s absolutely disgusting what leadership did. And showing the NHL that NO player would ever want to come to Vancouver with this group running the franchise!

[@matthewsmith2237]

Yeah honestly I’m usually one for forgiveness but he should be fired for this. Such an awful thing to go out to do at this stage of the season.

[@deltagolavista1]

This is the reason WHY the interview was done. You actually think a cancer like JT Miller with a full move has any value at all is Canuck fans not knowing how bad a situation this is. This is Rutherford getting the fan base ready for the pittance return he is going to bring in.

[@monozeroth7907]

Hughes is the best player the Canucks have ever had...not the most accomplished (yet), but easily the best. If the Canucks can't make it work with him on the roster, entering his prime, I see no reason to follow the team.

[@jacoblewis6616]

All 3 Hughes brother's on the same team would be crazy

[@time9293]

Southern Sutters

[@Con.man.218]

Only way that happens is if Quinn walks. Why would anyone want to play here? Sad, sad day to be a Vancouver fan

[@floridaman6281]

@@Con.man.218I wouldn’t be surprised if in a few years Quinn gets traded for say Nemec or something. Devils GM finally puts them together

[@marcbabineau6001]

@@floridaman6281would cost a crapload more than Nemec

[@metalenceladus]

@@jacoblewis6616 Since the Devil's are actually my #2 team, I'm all for this. Hughes + Hughes defensive pair would be hilarious and awesome. A Hughesx3 powerplay line would be just ahhh...... Hughes score! Assisted by Hughes and Hughes!

[@InsignificantNick]

"I don't wanna be in an institution" 💀

[@SK2KEdge]

i felt that

[@hellspawn1018]

Exactly why I got 2 teams

[@lilgrasshoppah]

Tooooooo late! (I feel your pain. I feel like I’m in one m’self, as an oilers fan… lots of PTSD and flaming alcoholism)

[@LeenethValkyrie]

That was actually pretty tasteless comment by Shanon. I know it was exaggeration but still.

[@lilgrasshoppah]

@@LeenethValkyrie silly.

[@Chetanp1445]

Blame yourselves for building this d-core❌ Blame the coach for his horrible offensive system❌ Put all the blame on Petterson/Miller and decrease their value even more✅✅✅

[@heliumtrophy]

Welcome to the Jim Rutherford School of Success!

[@matthewsmith2237]

Genuinely cannot understand the decision to say this. Like you’re already trying to figure out what trade you can make and you go and decrease their value even more?

[@satisfyingV]

​@@matthewsmith2237 Maybe it's a sign that a trade has already been locked in? Idk

[@Painkiller-1997]

​​@@heliumtrophy It's like Jimmy boy learned nothing from his tenure in Pittsburgh.

[@matthewsmith2237]

@ I doubt it based on the wording. It seems like he’s saying the team won’t get a proper return for either of them. Meaning that nothing has been done

[@ryanbencze]

As a fan who idolizes this team and dies blue and green, and is an average Joe who pays to see this team, This is what pisses me off. We finally get a good team and instead of bad luck or bad players, or bad management we have good players who eat at eachother to the point where we’re about to blow this team up and set it back for years. Even THROWING the name Quinn Hughes out there, is embarassing. Quinn is a franchise player. Not just a defensemen who’s elite. This guy is the BEST player the Canucks have EVER had. No disrespect to the 5 numbers we got hanging up in Roger’s but 43 is by far the best we’ve ever had. You pay him whatever and for however long he wants and you find your ways to BUILD a solid team around him. Where are the gms or coaches or even players going into that room and putting petey and miller and whoever else can’t put their attitude away in a room and telling them to figure it out and once the door opens this doesn’t come up ever again. Stop being babies and show the fans of Vancouver who are die hards and PAY their hard earned money to watch them. This is starting to be an absolute joke.

[@juhomantynen4638]

There was a funny stat that shows that when Quinn is on the ice, Vancouver plays like Vegas with similar stats and when he's off the ice they're like San Jose. Since he plays about 50% of each game it makes Vancouver a very mediocre team. That surely is the kind of player who you pay any sum necessary to keep.

[@dianedyck3474]

Why don’t the Canucks try and trade Petey for jack hughes?…they’re about the same level and the devils just might go for it…woukd be really good for Quinn!

[@timotheose]

​@@dianedyck3474... That would be cool .. but not likely. I agree with the OP. #43 is the best defencemen in this league PERIOD. #FlamesFan4Life here but credit earned is credit given. The breakdown video showing his impact on this team when he hits the ice is indeed proof enough. Norris for #43 this year is mandatory IMO.

[@michaelb5119]

​@dianedyck3474 they are not even remotely similar right now. Maybe when petterson had his 100pt season, even then i think hughes was better. Now new jersey would trade hughes for 3 pettersons

[@nonamenoname1737]

Bure, hands down best player…no comparison! If you never watched him live, you have nothing to compare him to!

[@clemssss]

Ok, i'm calling it. This is a brilliant tactic by Rutherford. He's the idiot now and the team will be united in hating him.

[@matthewsmith2237]

@@clemssss yeah a small part of me is holding out hope that he’s just hoping this can be a big fire lit under the team to understand that the problems they have in the locker room are why the team isn’t performing well

[@derekbernst6487]

This isn't the WWE

[@matthewsmith2237]

@@derekbernst6487 let us cope dammit

[@Jingling-MelO]

😂​@@matthewsmith2237

[@wuhaninstituteofvirology]

@@derekbernst6487rutherford’s taking over the role of heel so miller & petersson can be babyfaces

[@maxentiusdecimus9341]

This is the most heartfelt video I e ever seen THG make… you can feel how pissed off and sad he is at the same time.. I feel for you Shannon.

[@joeynova9896]

He and the rest of us Canuck fans feel the same way. Im 35 years as a fan and im sick of this shit. This season i barely watch the Canucks. I got better things to do.

[@edalder2000]

I was clinically trained as a Social Worker. Any team that is bad for a period of years almost always has dysfunctional ownership. I am sure that Shannon can cite examples of Canuck dysfunction from 30 years ago or longer.

[@Kejiani]

yeah, teams like in this in all American sports. It’s chronic, and inherent to the organization. *Have* to get the owner out. IF you can do that, fortunes can turn around in a second. From shit to gold (and burgundy ;)

[@Odysseus38]

The owners of the canucks are probably the worst next to alex merelo....

[@mrfake675]

@Kejiani the Bills and the Sabres have the same owner. Bills are great, Sabres are terrible. You can't always blame the owner.

[@Kejiani]

@ Buffalo Bills are great but they always fall short. and the Buffalo Sabres. Same destination to misery but different path. Though I understand what you mean wholeheartedly

[@richardlefaive1944]

Canuck ownership has ALWAYS been terrible. From day 1 it's been nothing but bunch of playboy morons who have ZERO idea of how to discern good sporting management from bad. The only good operational exec they've ever hired was Burke, as Shannon said. His draft day maneuvers to bag the Sedin twins and then slowly, patiently build a team around them that were all peak age \ mature at the same time for 2 years was masterful. That team should have won a cup and Burke would have deserved it.

[@patrickmattes4935]

Shannon, you are hilarious because your dry sarcasm is soaked in the tears of being a passionate fan. I am so sorry and honestly shocked that your beloved Canucks have not hoisted Lord Stanley's Cup yet. (Your Channel is essential daily viewing)

[@canada1966]

Most sane Canucks fan in Vancouver

[@Waulnuht]

@@canada1966 wait, I thought THG was in Abbotsford?!

[@rodzor]

He's in Abby isn't he?

[@shanevanc]

Have you forgotten how Rutherford's first act as pres was to sandbag Boudreau. After Bruce got the team going.

[@slotbotwana8591]

Rutherford has always been an imbecile.

[@byronloveridge8381]

They played zero defence and it was pond hockey... they were not winning with that in the playoffs

[@trevornedea914]

Got the team going ahhahahahahahahahahahhaha

[@G_Ellis606]

Why would Hughes stay? He can go play in NJ with his two brothers who he hangs out with in the off-season. Not to mention, winning the cup with your two brothers is beyond epic...

[@hemanownsyou]

If they want to play with Quinn so bad, then they can come to Vancouver and bring us glory.

[@SaintGBar22]

@@hemanownsyounever gonna happen

[@hemanownsyou]

@ Then New Jersey can screw off.

[@monozeroth7907]

Let's be honest, we all knew that would eventually happen when NJ had the opportunity to draft Luke and did exactly that.

[@blackhawks9763]

Quinn is definitely gonna join New Jersey someday. Could be sooner than we think. His whole family basically lives there. Vancouver is like 3rd in terms of “homes” for the Hughes family.

[@CarharttCowboy]

This is the best video on the entire situation. Great job Shannon

[@brianmcevoy1990]

After the way Boudreau's exit was handled and now this, Rutherford is really staining a hall of fame management career.

[@br1an432]

id like to think that if hes doing an interview like this, it means that the inevitable trade is gonna happen soon, i cant imagine doing this interview while still trying to trade either of them

[@Mitch-ui8ps]

Bye bye miller

[@pyqio]

@@Mitch-ui8ps which would mean Boeser and perhaps Hughes would go too, at least according to Rutherford

[@Mitch-ui8ps]

@@pyqio possibly true the writing has been on the wall for boeser for a whiiilleee

[@michaelb5119]

Hes trying to be fired

[@dustin6947]

Just after Horvat was traded and he returned to Vancouver for his first game back, I saw him walking in Yaletown with JT Miller and Conor Garland. Doesn’t say much, but they seemed happy and just like they were grabbing dinner at one of the Aquilini restaurants nearby. If I had to guess, if he really didn’t like JT, he probably wouldn’t have spent his first night in Vancouver grabbing dinner with him. He might not like the drama or whatever, sure, but that makes me think he might’ve actually had a decent relationship with him.

[@renlessard]

As a Habs fan I can always depend on the Canuck fan and media drama to be crazier. Well done

[@sctvfan1313]

When it's already hard to trade x-player(s).. then your boss confirms the rumors and makes trading x-player(s) even more impossible

[@EdMckeon]

The v jersey looks like a star trek uniform 😂😂😂

[@BillyAu]

It points straight down.....

[@Raytapia407]

He’s gotta be with the vulkan 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@namfoodlethegreat]

Lackluster playoff run, engage!

[@mrfake675]

Canucks couldn't even win the cup in the holodeck

[@EdMckeon]

@mrfake675 that was awesome 👌 👏 👍

[@badassunicorn5351]

That Rutherford went to the press is pathetic and shows how messed up this franchise is! Starts from the top!!!! So why do we remain fans when their own leadership is trying to destroy the franchise?!?!

[@KirboUrBro]

@@badassunicorn5351 exactly, the main problem with this team is NOT the players, it’s Management, and it has been the main problem for years

[@marksieber4626]

Good organizations settle their differences internally. Ownership needs to step in and cut out anyone that can’t act professionally. Cut out that wanker that went public, cut out the assclown players that can’t get along. Don’t let it fester any longer. The guys that are paid to manage aren’t managing.

[@jimwu8532]

he's softening fans for the potential fallout of a tire fire? /s...?

[@goaliecoachmike]

Allvin truly is Rutherford’s water boy!

[@paulalexander8874]

I get the feeling this is a last resort. A desperate attempt at blowing the situation up then hoping once the dust settles, things will work out.

[@genxgamer73]

The Vancouver Canucks are out-Buffaloing the Buffalo Sabres

[@mr.brenman2132]

The Canucks actually make the playoffs.

[@Rounder2205]

Misery enjoys company. Welcome to hell.

[@MarkCMG]

Thanks for the video! Long time fans of every franchise go through their ups and downs. Thanks for sharing some of your own!

[@jin4576]

Enjoying another episode of The Young and the Canucks

[@icysnax]

According to an ex- player in the Vancouver market, the story goes that Miller was angry about the contract Pettersson got, due to how much bigger than his it was. He was always hard on Petey, but took it to another level after this, in the name of "holding him accountable". It got so bad that it was borderline abusive, at which point Tocchet stepped in, this led to Miller arguing with Tocchet, then the team put him on leave for a while. The reason it keeps flaring up is because Miller hasn't changed his opinion on Petey, and Petey won't forgive him for being so hard on him all the time.

[@pjpredhomme7699]

That all rings true - I we are the same age - but even so I don't think Miller would want to get too agressive stepping to Rick Tocchett - Old school is old school.

[@blackhawks9763]

That’s 100% bs. The reason Miller was off was because an injury had been bugging him. I’m sure Pettersson pissed him off too, doesn’t surprise me. Pettersson seems like that type of person. Arrogant, cocky, etc…..

[@icysnax]

@blackhawks9763 Buddy if Miller was injured they could have LTIRed him. The only situation in which he goes on a "leave of absence" and the team can't LTIR him is if they told him to step away.

[@michaelb5119]

I believe it but we'll never know. Whos the ex player?

[@richardlefaive1944]

This is an explanation of the room dynamic which makes 100% perfect sense. If true, it underscores how, when running ANY sports franchise theheost important thing is to make sure that your pay scale largely makes merit based sense. This is why, from the day the FIRST Pettersson contract was announced, I knew trouble was coming. THAT was a ridiculous amount of $ for a player who is NOT a franchise player that takes you to a Cup. He should have been traded after that season instead while his market value was sky high instead of signing him to a deal which was bound to create room discord. Or ... traded in winter 2023 when he peaked with 101 pts ( performing to get a new deal ). For what we would have gotten in return at that point ... the Canucks and their long suffering fans might already have won their long awaited Cup. The last thing to do was to renew him in Spring 2024 for EVEN MORE. A ridiculous amount in fact. Predictably, after putting pen to new paper on that deal, he faded and then wasn't heard from in the playoffs ( nor since ) at all. That's ALL on the current and previous set of management. Ability to recognize good vs poor character is a pre-requisite for the job and they haven't had it.

[@orlocks1797]

There must be hell of a frustration to go to the public like that. I guess they are way beyond "you don't have to be friends, just try to be a team."

[@blakedubty8965]

These deep dives are amazing. Awesome work

[@aliyahjackson9321]

I blame Mark Messier

[@richardlefaive1944]

LMFAO. Best comment in the whole thread ;o).

[@JeffKing310]

It is amazing how the Canucks departures are often very caustic and edgy. Messier, Bure, Luongo, Miller, Torts, Keenan.... Very strange.

[@joeynova9896]

If drama were Stanley Cup rings the Canucks would have a ring for each finger.

[@VancouverInvestor]

Almost like there was one common denominator. Like maybe an owner who values money over loyalty. You should ask him about the Century Project...100M "new Canadians" so he can get cheap blueberry pickers for his farms.

[@dix_neuf]

I can feel Shannon's rage emanating from the monitor

[@pdubcentral]

I’m not a Canucks fans and I’m so angry right now haha

[@Mellotron63]

Ouch. When you think things couldn’t get much worse in Vancouver, Rutherford drops Hughes into all of this

[@martinzyka6432]

The journalist was probably totally shocked this is even happening :D

[@Wexter0083]

This reminds of the Hoffman and Karlsson drama in 2018. There was so much festered hatred and disfunction in the room they had to trade both... feels like it is happening in Vancouver.

[@richardlefaive1944]

And as long as we retain Hughes ... I'm OK with that.

[@closethockeyfan5284]

Well, any trade or otherwise offload of Karlsson is inherently addition by subtraction, as we have seen ever since 2018. And that doesn't even get into the riches the Sharks gave Ottawa and then received from Pittsburgh, where Karlsson has made a declining team that much worse.

[@pdubcentral]

That one at least had a backstory of why they had such hate for each other. I don’t get this at all. But it better be a dam good reason to not be doing your job when you are being paid millions to do so. “Not liking someone” is no excuse to not perform at your max capabilities.

[@jameselix8811]

@@richardlefaive1944Not an option, where are they going to find a 1C, 2C and 2 top 4 Ds before Hughes walks? At this point if they’re still being lowballed for Miller, just wait until the offseason and take the highest bid. And hope Pettersson bounces back without the toxicity.

[@richardlefaive1944]

@@pdubcentral There is a back story, contract jealousy. JM deserves all the blame for handing out that idiotic contract to Peter. The salary structure is now blown to shit from a merit perspective. Petey is terrible defensively and doesn’t do the little things that help a team win consistently. Miller and others are pissed about it due to Petey’s performance. Pretty simple to understand when the guy getting paid 4M more than anyone else is not pulling his weight. Petey should have been traded 2-3 years ago while he was at peak value. If that had been done then, the Canuck’s would be legit cup contenders with what they got in return added to this roster. Horvat could still be on the team too for that matter. Petey’s play and his huge contract F this whole team up long term

[@stovic1442]

I was brought up supporting Newcastle in the Premier League, UK. Their last trophy was in the 50s. It's no surprise then that for no reason at all I have followed the Canucks from a distance since the 90s.

[@robscott9414]

Me too: NUFC & Canucks. Problem is we should have taught Collocini how to skate, and Tyler Myers how to smash headers.

[@tiki1750]

@@stovic1442 NFFC fan here, scared my clubs trajectory is similar to the nucks last year 😭😭😭

[@oopopp]

Jack, Quinn, and Luke all hitting thier PRIME at the same time on 1 team is an NHL marketing dream come true.

[@pdubcentral]

If Quinn really was given that opportunity do you actually think he’d hold out for more money? Like you’d need everything to line up just to make it possible. I can’t see someone who is that close with their family caring when they have a chance to do something so special with their favourite people on the planet haha. Just asking as a hypothetical because the question would be if New Jersey can afford a player like him. But I would hope that’s not an issue. I feel like we all want to see this dream scenario 😅

[@oopopp]

@pdubcentral all 3 brothers must put thier NHL salary for the year in pool and split the money evenly for as long as they are together. That is the sacrifice they have to make as a family so they can play together as a family.

[@jakeengb]

Great video. I never really understood how cursed the canucks were until this happened. I was definitely in the camp that believed the canucks would pull themselves out of this after all players fighting isn’t anything new. But the president coming out with this is and airing all this dirty laundry is mind boggling. It feels like I’m witnessing a team just commit suicide. Talking about trading your captain and then he goes on to pretty much just ask to get ripped off on any future trade is insane. Teams CAN rebound from this, but it sounds like they’re already digging the grave. SAD!

[@smeagol6969]

Im 28 and i got myself into hockey as a kid. Nobody else in my family got me into it. I cheered on the Flyers because they were from Philly and im 5 mins from the stadium. At age 10 i started watching seriously and learning about how the league works . I chose to support the blackhawks as well because i oved their jerseys and they were terrible so i wouldnt be a bandwagon fan. I cried when the flyers lost the cup i was only 14. But knowing it was my second team winning made it feel 1/1000 better. Thank God they became a dynasty and made being a dual fan not so hard. Now both teams are back in the basement but at least the hawks got 3 cups

[@closethockeyfan5284]

Ah, so the "Back with a Vengeance" season, it would seem. They were amid the transition from the longtime dirty scoundrels identity going back to BSBs, but if you were that close to the building, I guess I can't judge you too harshly.😉 Blackhawks at that time I can understand. Something about them always turned me off, but I don't know what exactly. Different strokes.🤷🏻 I was 6 when I picked the Stars as my second team. The color scheme and logo I found simplistic in a cool way, and I really liked Modano, Zubov, and Belfour, among others. At 17 I picked the Canucks as No. 3 when their EA NHL 10 equivalent drafted my pro and I grew to like the look and players, both individually and collectively, just in time to not be a bandwagon jumper. Their consistent bizarreness makes me feel a little less bad about my No. 1 nowadays, but only slightly. Blues and Blue Jackets were basically tied for fourth, whichever being 4a when I was more pleased with the team direction. Now it's more consistently Lumbus fourth, because I still have family who's been there my whole life, whereas my ex from St. Louis decided after more than a decade that she wanted me out of her life.😅 I liked the Blues before I knew her, just not so formally. I've done rankings like THG all the way to 32, but it's been a while and there's a lot of shifting potential from 6 to 30, haha.

[@owenfreelend1518]

as an oilers fan i hate van but god i hope they win a cup. just for you

[@Marixa1979]

Nope, just nope.

[@casewojo6186]

As a Wings/Cats fan for basically my whole life, I watch ALOT of Edmonton games, and I hope they take the cup this year.

[@hornedlobster]

@owenfreelend1518 Obviously I'd prefer the Canucks to take home the cup, but at this point, if any canadian team can win id be happy.

[@BigBSinclair]

@@owenfreelend1518 Thanks, but it's hopeless.

[@rickvansen5898]

I was never a Canuck fan but always thought the Flying V jersey looked amazing. Love seeing it again Shanon, thank you for the nostalgia! Wish they would bring it back

[@stephendass6835]

Management are clearly done with this and have no allegiance to either player now and this interview is sending that message

[@LilybeeTV]

Geez. I was behind on this story but if I’m the owner, I’d have fired Rutherford and Alvin yesterday. They’ve made this so much harder to cut their losses now that 31 other teams know they have to do something. Asset mismanagement of the highest degree

[@wolfgangkern5164]

I am a bit older than you, Shannon, and also became a "Canucks Lifer" after the '82 run. Your pain story as a Canucks fan is similar to mine. This year with the Miller-Petterson drama is almost a new low in some ways. Last year had me feeling hopeful again and now it feels like a few more bad things and yeah back in the tank for 3-5 seasons. I saw my Seattle Thunderbirds lift a cup LIVE in 2023, May 19th. Will NEVER forget that day. It was better than high fiving random people on Granville street when the 'Jays won in 1992 and 1993. I wish my Canucks would get over the hump but I keep thinking 2023 might be my hockey fandom pinnacle, I'll never see my Canucks lift a cup.

[@pjpredhomme7699]

Yeah it was a good history - but comparing Bure to Pettersson ? seriously ? remember - Bure was there in probably the prime of prime era of the NHL - that is when Gretzky still had it - Mario was in his prime - Hull, Yzerman, Lafontaine - so many great players - but no one took people out of their seats the moment he touched the puck like Bure .

[@wolfgangkern5164]

@@pjpredhomme7699 The only time I had a 17 pack or whatever they called it (maybe still do) was in Bure's first season. I watched in the Pacific Colosseum as he took the puck at one point, deked and skated around the back of the net through half the other team, maybe all of them, then made a play to a teammate or shot, can't remember. I was like "...this kid is it...". Bure pre-Messier was the best single player the Canucks ever had, period.

[@richardlefaive1944]

@@wolfgangkern5164 Hughes is a better and more valuable overall player. I've watched both.

[@rumblybiscuit]

Whats crazy is I think San Jose wins before Vancouver or Buffalo

[@blackhawks9763]

That would be beyond embarrassing and pathetic for Vancouver.

[@kcshfl]

Excellent video Hockey Guy, well said!

[@samwu8647]

Man if they manage to lose Hughes, I don't know if I'd have the heart to continue watching this team for a long while...

[@SaintGBar22]

Maybe going to the public was a way to really get all the guys to stop and realize that everything they built could all be wiped away if they dont get it together.

[@marklittle8805]

That has to be what Rutherford hopes. Not sure it will work

[@jclvmanagement7848]

Oiler fan here. I appreciate your passion behind this issue Hockey Guy. Nice job on this video.

[@Uncle_Troy]

Nothing says "screw you" quite like Mark Messier deciding to un-retire Wayne Maki's number for his own selfish ends.

[@michaely4921]

I love this channel compare to the other Vancouver media channels. True Canucks and hockey fan but also so much content. You listen the other channels and they are so happy with the Rutherford interview just fueling the issues. We just want to hear and talk about hockey.

[@Railblade]

You just hate to hear the "disappointed Dad" in his voice. This ain't even about me and I feel like I screwed up somehow lol. I'm a Blues fan but even I wish the Canucks would get their crap together man, for Shannon's sake.

[@jamesjoste5959]

I’m furious that they waived Saad today and he was chosen over Perron.

[@scottcurlis4893]

WOW! What a review and I for one, was unaware of this interview by Jim and as a penguins fan, I have kinda relaxed my overall league followings as my team kinda stinks. Lol But anyway, this brings me back to my opinion of Rutherford during his time in Pittsburgh and his departure from Carolina. Simply stated, he does some really good things and then he doesn't. This definitely falls into the doesn't category and might just be his worst work yet. I just don't understand the leverage that he may have thought this interview might bring or how this helps anything. Period. I love my guy Tocchett and I wish he never left Pittsburgh and his time with the coyotes was a very tough situation and now this. But I digress, this was a bad move by Rutherford imo and I really hope something good comes out of it but that doesn't seem likely. Sending well wishes to all of the Vancouver fan base and ...geez. This is sad

[@LordSwaminarayanForever]

Whenever I feel down bcoz of my team, I just watch the drama going on with the Canucks and it makes me feel good 😅

[@omfg322]

As a canucks fan; understandable have a nice day sir

[@nj.horrorhaven]

If huggy jumps ship, I might have to as well tbh. Im sick of how van is being run (into the ground really). I was born into a canuck loving family, and ill love them til I die, but enough is enough.

[@simbeau]

Well, now we know there's more dysfunction than we thought and that the toxicity goes right up the chain of command.

[@kevinobrien2366]

Must be nice having 3 favorite teams LOL. I go further back than you do, all the way to 1970. One team. Gotta tell ya, been painful AF over the years. Great video as always

[@tomkelley4119]

This feels like a eulogy of the Canucks and maybe of Shannon's fandom.

[@michelricher5549]

Remind me of when Montreal had team Pacioretty and team Subban, both got traded

[@DucksUpDogsDownCatsSlide]

I would support bringing back Brian Burke to the Canucks.

[@aquiace]

Can't help but feel like last year was the best year we're gonna have for a while

[@monkeychife]

I genuinely feel bad for canucks fans. I grew up with the sharks pretty rarely being a bad team (even if they never won anything) and the post Erik karlsson signing era has been really painful to watch. I can’t imagine reliving it, having a decent team, and watching it fall apart again. You guys deserve better from your organization.

[@michaelb5119]

Kinda different with san jose tho no? San Jose's window kinda just shut when all their players declined. Vancouver should still be in their contending window, but now itll get blown up because of lockeroom drama and egos. Id say vancouver has it worse, theres no reason this should be happening

[@monkeychife]

@ it’s definitely different but I do think culture issues accelerated what happened or at the minimum played a role. I don’t think it’s a coincidence the year Pavelski left everything fell apart and there was a whole thing about hertl hating Kane. Its why they looked for an excuse to terminate Kane’s contract at the first convenience. I mean, It’s not like the sharks didn’t make the conference finals with Jones already not playing well for a couple seasons and I would be surprised if there wasn’t some hard feelings about Karlsson being the highest paid player in the history of the sharks and not performing up to his contract until his final year with the team. Declining players was a piece, but with the exception of Jones and vlasic most of the core guys stats weren’t that far off of the previous season when the playoff miss streak began. Proof of that was Wilson trying to constantly make broken team work instead of accepting it’s over.

[@Christian_Martel]

When I was a kid in the 80s, being on the East Coast, unless for those scarce runs (2) to the Cup Final, I was able only to watch the Canucks play a few times every year. For me, watching the Flying V or the Flying Skate were quite a treat. The paramount happened went during the NHL 75th Year, when teams started to wear their coloured jerseys at home. I still remember my awe to watch a Nords-Nucks game on TV from the Colisée. These nice white, yellow and orange Skating uniforms contrasting well with our beloved Fleurdelisés with their Royal Blue jackets. Still have goosebumps!

[@markussurian309]

8:25 nice save bro

[@bradfitzphoto]

Amazing content Shannon! Really appreciate all the good information on the Canucks! Thank you!

[@stephenkyriakou4286]

As a Leafs fan when you said “this team is never winning a cup in my lifetime” that hit hard. I feel your pain bud. 🫡

[@jerrylee3887]

The common denominator is Aquaman. He doesnt want the cup. He just wants the playsoff revenue

[@Zero-Fox-Garage]

I was a Canucks fan from pre '82 until the SCF series against Boston in 2011. I feel like being a Canucks fan is sort of like hitting yourself with a hammer...it feels good to stop. We moved to Edmonton a year later, during the low point of the "Decade of Darkness" here. It was still easier to cheer for the Oilers through those times...and they got better and better. From a drama standpoint there is a night and day difference. nothing that happens with the Canucks surprises me.

[@RomeoDeltaAviation]

Rutherford dropping a bomb 💣 The moment the Nucks begin a little momentum, beating Ovi and the top team of the league. Rinse and repeat year after year. Ownership interference time and time again. Affecting style and dynamic of the club. All of this started snowballing moment Gaglardi lost out to Aquilini for ownership bid. Dallas is better structured all together compared to the Swiss or Swede cheese of Vancouver. God speed life long Canuck fans! Groundhog Day for the hockey faithful on the West Coast 🤯

[@billwhite96]

I like Rutherford, but he was out of line bringing up the rift between Miller and Petterson, just when we have a little winning streak going. What was he thinking?

[@WillSams]

Yikes. That room is dysfunctional now, probably multiple factions in the room. Damn. Vancouver is about to do a fire sale and it's very unfortunate. Not even a Canucks fan but that sucks. If you trade either, other players will want out. Rutherford can be an arrogant man so, yeah, this is on brand for him. Since Pettersson is coming up in rumors again, I will not be shocked if Allvin trades either or both, packaged with other players.

[@richardlefaive1944]

Canucks getting little more than a bag of pucks for Petey given the lead balloon contract Rutherford gave him in spring 2024. THAT was the beginning of the end. SHould have been traded then at his peak rather than resigned.

[@SpeedandSplendor]

Having grown up in Vancouver this team has always been a roller coaster cycle of euphoria and drama shooting them in the foot. Look at Pavel Bure, Todd Bertuzzi, Messier/Linden, Miller/Pettersen, Luongo/Schneider... Every era end unnecessarily due to dram.

[@BCNeil]

It's sort of like when my sister and her husband were having problems. She was nasty to everyone, including her family. But when they finally got divorced, she stayed nasty.

[@stawns]

And even that was really only a good three months and then a vezina type season propping up a mediocre team for the last half.

[@streetdog75]

I'd be nasty to my family too, if I knew they were airing out all the family dirty laundry in KZbin comment sections.

[@masterdmo]

not sure what JR was thinking saying this. only further makes things worse and lowers your return for either player. great work

[@Orange_kun]

The Canuck are just a cursed franchise.

[@kierstenpadington8716]

My favourite memories of last year are going to 2 away playoff games (vs Nashville game 3 & 6) at Rogers arena and just grateful I got to experience that in the 1 great year before the next decade of pain.

[@oliverquach9614]

Rutherford is legit crazy if he ever trades Quinn, he should be retiring as a Canuck. Rutherford’s hopefully bluffing about rebuilding to motivate the guys (The GMs for Nashville and NYR made similar threats earlier this season)

[@mariovaccarella6854]

Great Video, as usual, Shannon - I feel for you that one of your teams (Vancouver Canucks) is going through all of this. It has got to be trying for you.

[@CC-md9db]

This is a coach and captain issue. Rutherford is at his wits end, so he's putting pressure on the players, the captain, and the coach publicly. He might as well try it because, probably, a trade suitable to him has been difficult to get done. If I were a Canucks fan, this issue would make me very upset given last season and the expectations going into this one.

[@gew9919]

Very good video. Everything explained well and you were very sincere

[@butcherpete2286]

If there really is camp setting and side taking going on in the locker room the ONLY fix is to find out exactly who is on whose side and then axeing that *entire* camp when you trade that player. Which is not at all an ideal scenario. You could be talking about a half dozen players.

[@Berubium]

Shannon, I appreciate the passion you feel about this situation & could see & feel it throughout the video. As a fellow Canucks fan, this is hard to watch & experience knowing the tremendous talent this team has. If I were in the ownership group, I would have had Rutherford fired for having this interview see the light of day during the regular season (I might give it a pass if it were during the offseason, but certainly not now). I don’t see anything good coming from this; but perhaps, in his mind, he’s trying to motivate them to prove him wrong in his own ridiculous way.

[@rocky0155]

As an Oilers fan, I would trade Bouchard for Hughes any day and every day.

[@jamesanthony5681]

Of course. Vancouver trading Hughes would be the height of insanity.

[@ryans413]

I wouldn’t trade Bouchard he’s just having an off year. He has a great shot better than Hughes he just needs to relax and play like he did last year.

[@michaely4921]

You comparing Hughes with Bouchard.

[@Moizadamji]

Love these videos. Share your rants and opinions more

[@BodyAndSol96]

Agree 💯

[@TylerMorganShow]

Hughs is too young to manage this locker room.

[@September2004]

Bo Horvat is thinking, “Should’ve kept me.”

[@anonyme7024]

Now I just feel bad for every Canucks fans... They genuinely deserve better!

[@uranusismightybig5111]

Not sure that they do considering how the comments sections have been looking this last year. The amount of trash that have been thrown on EP especially...just nasty

[@smileyhellotime]

THG, 😂 I feel everything you felt from 94 onwards. That's when I fell in love with hockey. I will die and my tombstone will read: Died before she got to participate in the parade.

[@modeisin7]

I like the Flying V jersey

[@franklulatowskijr.6974]

I’ve always felt bad for Vancouver fans. You guys deserve better.

[@nicholasmotz]

This is total mismanagement. How you sign Miller and decide to trade Horvat. I’ve said this for a while. They’re just trying to save their jobs

[@richardlefaive1944]

A. THere was never really a Horvat \ Miller rift. THey go out for dinner together whenever Bo is in town still to this day ! B. So why was HOrvat traded ATALL ? The BIG roster error was giving Petey his FIRST contract extension in '21, but the BIGGEST error was then, after all the evidence was presented that he was not a cornerstone \ playoff performer that takes you to a Cup ... you resign him in '24 to an even more MASSIVE deal rather than trade him at his peak value in either winter deadline 23 or 24. EPIC roster mis-managment by two consecutive management teams.

[@nicholasmotz]

@ didn’t say there was a rift between Horvat and Miller. Yes it was a mistake to sign Petey to that much. It was also a mistake to keep miller if there was a problem between the 2(many have confirmed this going back to before Jim and Alvin). If the 2 of them can’t work it out then they need to go and do whatever you can to convince Hughes to stay.

[@canuckfreak007]

Thank You Shannon this video was needed

[@epants8507]

Man I miss Horvat.

[@jameselix8811]

This team is bearing the consequences of refusing to rebuild both in the Benning and Rutherford eras.

[@squidMB]

God bless the Canucks and their dysfunctional organization

[@jasonmccaslin821]

You could add the Petr Nedved drama too. 🤔

[@slotbotwana8591]

Yep, which begat Jeff Brown drama. Allegedly.

[@meavid]

@@slotbotwana8591The alleged Brown-McLean drama isn’t true.