This deck has certainly been the most hated by the general public but I think it's actively solid.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Really? What is everyone saying about it?
@atlasrises44 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds it mainly centers around the dislike for the face commander and that people don't like aggressive decks(?) Basically that she doesn't give you enough in terms of tokens, tho I'd argue 6/4 spread across 2 bodies(for her first cast) and an anthem is pretty solid in a go wide deck.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
She will play better than she looks. For 4 she makes 6 power, for 6 she makes 9 power. Not even counting any other humans you have. Maybe people are just not doing math 😂
@Moonsault374 жыл бұрын
She lives in the shadow of Edgar Markov
@AbyssArray4 жыл бұрын
"not as good as another commander in its colours" but it seems solid to me, better than some others in c20 - also having obvious synergies is really nice for newer players to get into as well
@GiveItARest4 жыл бұрын
An interesting thing I see with Jirina is that from her second cast onwards, she combos with Ashnod's Altar and Pitiless Plunderer. The trio creates infinite mana, ETB, deathrattles, and cast triggers in a "off-brand food chain" kind of way.
@stevenvensel20944 жыл бұрын
I’m really looking forward to a good home for Tajic, Blade of the Legion and Assemble the Legion. Although, the idea of playing a Kelsion deck and equipping him with Basilisk Collar and Thornbite Staff has me excited.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see or hear Assemble the legion all I can think of is "Mustard Counters" thanks in part to Joe. -Beezy
@Ashes_to_Ashes2002 жыл бұрын
You definitely misread calvary pegasus. It's not "A" attacking human it's each attacking human
@thetogtube24 жыл бұрын
*** CAVALRY PEGASUS::: Gives your entire attacking team flying not just one target human... seems pretty ok.
@thetogtube24 жыл бұрын
I also really like Stormfirst crusader in here...
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Do we want opponents drawing all those cards though? Puts us down 2 cards each time :( cavalry pegasus is cool but we weren't sure about it
@thetogtube24 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds i guess my thought is in the aggro build I will play it 1v1 often...
@Twerk943 жыл бұрын
Use Luminous Broodmoth instead so you can sac creatures then they come back as flyers 😉
@hankmoody52414 жыл бұрын
Nice! I’m going to make a deck with the commander pair from this pre-con. This is the commander upgrade I’ve been waiting for. Great video!
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
They are a pretty sweet pairing, we kept them in this deck 😍
@CDeVries4 жыл бұрын
I like this deck. Thanks for doing these precon upgrades.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
We are going to keep them coming this week!
@CDeVries4 жыл бұрын
All the extra content is helping. Thanks.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Any time! The longer corona keeps everyone inside the more we can crank out content
@jansenmayfield63174 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the day it's you two, v.s. Josh Lee Kwai and Jimmy >:3
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
They will be the ones dying to get on OUR show by the time we've hit our peak!
@thetogtube24 жыл бұрын
This would be an epic Nitpicking GameNIghts Nerds MASHUP!
@rothhaas4 жыл бұрын
Cleansing Nova actually saved my life many time specially with deck with a lot of artifacts.
@osvaldoramirez8053 жыл бұрын
Only 445 views but honestly this was one of the better precon upgrades for ideas that I actually like. So thank you guys!!!
@sephyrias8834 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of you mentioning the Fiend Hunter combo. 16:20 This is also the reason why I'd pick Silvar and Trynn for the command zone, rather than Jirina, who does more when you have partner commanders instead of just her anyway. Silvar functions as your sac-outlet for Fiend Hunter. Can be a combo piece in the command zone. My version of this deck would be heavily built around the combo.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Yeah we didn't want to lean to hard into the combo for a precon upgrade, so it's just something cool that you can pull off some games. In a regular deck tech we would go harder in on it
@jonathanharris97174 жыл бұрын
Jirina is also a combo piece in the command zone. With Ashnod's Altar and Nim Deathmantle you go infinite. All you need is one of many aristocrats and everybody is donezo.
@justJOSHinBRO4 жыл бұрын
This deck is is not as " flashy" as the other decks, but you guys really harnessed the power of humans. They're one of the most supported and synergistic creature types.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Humans are underrated! They will smash your face in!
@camn75424 жыл бұрын
I think you guys nailed the power of this Commander in your human tribal video. People who think Jirina is underwhelming were probably thinking she would be cast early on alone or that she prob caps out at 3 casts (still 12 pwr for 8 mana). However casting her with some humans on the board is absolutely insane. I also think her power to let you reset on board wipes is underrated.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Great commander
@Xrocker-ti1xi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you I've been waiting for someone to do a upgrades list for this deck!
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
We will have all five done within a few days if all goes well!
@armandoacosta98284 жыл бұрын
finally finished assembling your deck today.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Are you going to get to play it soon?
@armandoacosta98284 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds I want to get a webcam to play with friends online. I'm currently working outta town. I also traded for a General Kudro & a Ruinous Ultimatum.
@hectormedina83864 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for these upgrades. They're awesome, i was looking for a build that was a semi competitive. Then i saw this one and it's perfect, with new mardu ultimatum, red elemetal blast and pyroblast for safe keeping it's gonna be perfect 👌.
@patrickweiss50634 жыл бұрын
I've been playing Jirina and I definitely like her better than Trynn and Silvar. I've also thought about doing Bruse/Tymna because Jirina counts the cast counts of each!
@patrickweiss50634 жыл бұрын
Cool target for Ranger of Eos: Spurnmage Advocate; people don't expect it and they forget about it cause they've never seen it before :)
@eustacemcgoodboy97024 жыл бұрын
What about Gerrard, Weatherlight Hero? He's a human who protects against board wipes (but now you're tokens) and many people probably have him already from C19.
@jflowization4 жыл бұрын
Jirina is pretty under rated tbqh, having played the deck for since it dropped, she’s diffently the second best out of the three Mardu Commanders, Trynn and silvar being first, and the other dude (i forget his name atm) being third Ok i’ll admit though, her effect is not the best, but hear me out, this is a token centered deck, play cards that allow to create multiple tokens, then with the decks other non-token creatures basically giving you free +1/+1 counters all across the board, including Jirina giving +2/0 to ALL Humans, AND having access to white, there are cards in this color that can give you tokens Hexproof, vigilance, double strike etc. Personally the way you play her is you diffently need to build a board state first, playing creatures and spells that give you free tokens like Precinct captain, which whenever it deals combat damage, you make a token, Raise the alarm, an instant that gives you 2 free tokens, and my personal fave for the deck Entrapment Maneuver, which at instant speed, target player has to sacrifice a attacking creature, and you create X 1/1 white soldiers where X is the destroyed creatures toughness, cast that if say Ghalta primal hunger was attacking you, or even a big eldrazi, those tokens arrive ready for duty. the only issue though is ramping, yes you have access to blacks ramp cards like Dark ritual, and reds other spells, but white dosent really have much in ways of ramping, not to my knowledge at least.
@ThimbleCrimble4 жыл бұрын
After watching this vid I see we went different directions with rebuilding this deck and also chose some similar cards. Very interesting to see the same base with 2 different end results. Love the vid tho.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Ours is better lol jk 😋
@natureboy954 жыл бұрын
At first, I was intrigued by making a human tribal deck, though at first i was a bit uncertain with the head commander, who doesn't look as ridiculously powerful as some of the other commanders, like that insect graveyard guy. That said, after watching this and listening to your take I'm definitely more excited for it! the angel of glory's rise combo seemed like quite a lot of fun too! something I noticed, but the Cavalry Pegasus gives Each human flying, not just one. I feel that could be a lot more useful in a go wide human tribal deck really.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
I think I'd just want another Human with a better ability over the Pegasus though. Too bad it's not a human :(
@snomisdivad3 жыл бұрын
I'm new to commander and was wondering why the general would not be played as you said?
@crawdaddy20044 жыл бұрын
Garna doesn’t just count creatures that died. It counts the creatures you milled into your graveyard with Syr Konrad.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
That's true, they are a wombo combo together!
@colinhofer78304 жыл бұрын
You can play Eldrazi Displacer or blink effects to trigger the Commander's token effect.
@colinhofer78304 жыл бұрын
Conjurer's Closet and Blade of selves work well also.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Super sweet. Where are our flicker humans???
@Moonsault374 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Charming Prince haaha
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Got there!!!
@LoberoxD4 жыл бұрын
Awesome :) , another good upgrade will be Cathar's Crusade
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Makes Humans hit even harder. Might have been a good inclusion, sort of a budget anthem effect
@erickvanpatten6734 жыл бұрын
Wow great upgrade! Liked it :) thanks!
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Which ards are your favorite for this deck?
@BozzLightyr4 жыл бұрын
Hey fellas, if I put Queen Marchesa at the helm with the same upgraded deck (minus one card) would it work out nice do you think?
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Queen Marchesa is just a really good card. You will feel a little less oomph with your attacks and going wide won't be AS effective with her, so maybe you'd want to add like 1-2 budget tutors and/or 1-2 more good anthem effects. But on the flipside she will draw you a ton of cards and you'll always be able to snag the monarch back
@shouayang79944 жыл бұрын
i have been play testing this deck and it can get pretty overwhelming if it's done right and also pretty dangerous if you don't wipe out the tokens.
@MrIsuka4 жыл бұрын
hi, it is for multi or duel commander ? Thanks
@PawzBrownMTG4 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video. I love those humans. Keep up the Pawzitive attitudes
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pawz
@rolandbraj59044 жыл бұрын
I had the same ideas with daredevil but there are some fails in this video if you ask me. First you want to put garna but actually she is in the deck! Second if you use falkenrath aristocrat then you should use yahenni aswell, similiar ability but he grows when oppenent creature dies and if you sack a creature then he gets indestructible and another fail and its bothers my mind if you use castle embereth why the hell you dont use castle ardenvale. If you dont want board wipe and want to use Mikareus and another sac creature definetly deck needs it. Overall there are good ideas in the video and i like it. Good work!
@MTGStrategist4 жыл бұрын
I'm excited for this one. Good advice.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks strategist, always a pleasure to see you here
@Quilphin4 жыл бұрын
Im trying to go infinite this is the combo i have so far but there should be a better way... Pitiless plunderer + phyrexian altar + Urzas incubator + jirina kudro = infinite human tokens My goal is trying to make a combo were you can cast her and sack her for mana and just resummon and keep making humans. Any tips plz help
@towelguy4 жыл бұрын
i built syr Gwyn knights with some cool equipment but human tribal could make a cool duel deck against my Varina zombie deck
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Just watch out for that Angel of Glory's rise!
@towelguy4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Zombie Apocalypse is a nice counter card too
@RVS7894 жыл бұрын
Solid breakdown! 👍
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :D Glad you enjoyed. What was your favorite part?
@RVS7894 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds As a casual player on a budget, I appreciate all of the options! You guys laid out a pretty comprehensive set of upgrades! Haha
@CubaRican2264 жыл бұрын
I'd add Teysa Karlov to combo with all the tokens you're making and Judith/Syr Konrad
@Hello-gy7yo4 жыл бұрын
At 13:43 you said the pegasus gives 1 human flying but it says each attacking human.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
That’s a big pegasus
@colinhofer78304 жыл бұрын
Commander's Insignia might actually work in a deck?! Crescendo of War too if you play defensive with the tokens.
@colinhofer78304 жыл бұрын
This will make your upgrade cheaper, Garna, the Bloodflame is in the precon already.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Yep! We just wanted to talk about it since it's one of the more important cards in the deck
@crittycothran62714 жыл бұрын
Is friends even on the Same playing field as the office? 🧐
@eustacemcgoodboy97024 жыл бұрын
Good deck tech. Very good! I am going to role play this deck as the Ikoria humans struggling to survive against all the monsters. I assume it will be a bad deck since it's basically token aggro that isn't Krenko but I'll find out later.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
If you can plow through a boardwipe or two, you can score a win. Sweet deck though
@AbyssArray4 жыл бұрын
How about the Vivid cycle for lands? They're on the cheap end and fix your colours if you need it to (kind of like a tri-land you can get any colour from twice if you want to)
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
We are not big fans of the vivid lands, and usually want to keep our tapped lands to below 10. I think we’d just keep the gainlands as duals over them
@AbyssArray4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds What do you think about the new Tri-lands (same colours as each Commander set), they even have all 3 land type tagged on them.. and cycling to boot
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
AbyssArray we love them especially when not on a budget as they are fetchable. Get 2 of these in a 4 color deck with something Krosan verge is going to be so satisfying.
@simonnice90304 жыл бұрын
Outlaws Merriment seems pretty decent in this deck.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
They're all humans,that card is awesome. Like a cool bitterblossom that keeps the tokens relevant!
@keaganrosario82304 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is how Mardu should play! It looks like it's time to kick Gywn to the curb.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
You think Jirina is better than Gwyn? Or are you ready for a change?
@keaganrosario82304 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds a little bit of both. It takes longer to get Gwyn's engine going than it would to get Jirina in my opinion plus I like a go wide strategy more than narrow/Voltron. I haven't really had a lot of good games with my Gwyn deck. It's just a bunch of cool Knights cards to look at. 😂
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
So sounds like the solution is to frame the Gywn deck and play the Jirina deck, lol
@keaganrosario82304 жыл бұрын
I feel like there's more out there for humans to give you a wider range of what you can in a deck do than knights.
@keaganrosario82304 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I have a foil Knight Exemplar that I love to look at every time I pull out the deck 😂
@Khorganor4 жыл бұрын
There is just one point I would disagree with...of course you want board wipes in a deck like this. Just not too many and they have to be one sided. Winds of abandon, in Garruks wake and the new mardu ultimatum all would fit this strategy perfectly. The best place for 3/1 tokens to actually get work done is on an empty board. XD
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
It's too bad the Mardu Ultimatum was spoiled after this upgrade video, we'd put that in in a heartbeat. I think we should have clarified that there wasn't a solid boardwipe we found within our tight budget where we can't really go over $5 for a single card
@Khorganor4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds "In Garruk's wake", "Plague wind" and "Winds of abandon"( which doubles as an overcosted "path to exile") are all pretty cheap, don't affect your board and in the right colors.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
We are not fans of the nine mana board wipes at all really, but Winds of Abandon might be a solid budget include!
@jo_ken4 жыл бұрын
Been really wanting to look into this one and go for an agro humans sort of build. I want to pull the impetus cycle into my Queen Marchesa deck since it has a pillow fort style of build.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
this deck definitely slants aggressive!
@jo_ken4 жыл бұрын
Nitpicking Nerds Definitly going to get my Elesh Norn into this deck since I got one from the mystery packs that came out a little while back.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! That card is gonna be a powerhouse in this deck
@jo_ken4 жыл бұрын
Nitpicking Nerds I think Abzan Battle Priest and Abzan Falconeer will be good cheap add ins for anyone including Mikaeus.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
I think you need a lot of counters synergies before they start being super good
@trox61744 жыл бұрын
What about castle adrenvale?
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
It was on the short list and was one of the last cards not to make it in, it’s a nice little backup human maker! Same is true for Westvale Abbey
@ryanduffy454 жыл бұрын
But cavalry Pegasus gives EACH human flying! Not bad with a bunch of at least 3/1's.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
It's just super low-impact unless you're going wide, and if we go wide enough flying won't change too much. Plus, it's not a human so it won't trigger any of our tribe matters synergies :(
@ryanduffy454 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Geez I've had these decks since they came out and I've barely upgraded them. I need to get on that. And as for the human tribal deck; cavalry Pegasus is OOOUT! Valid points. I think I'm going to lean into a more aristocrats style build though and use the "Partner with" commanders instead maybe? Hmm so hard to decide.
@JavierRomero-hf1ps4 жыл бұрын
nice video guys
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@nonewmsgs4 жыл бұрын
Also I'm on #teambouncelands
@3141-24 жыл бұрын
Only six minutes in but ANNOINTED PROCESSION? My favorite card easily my favorite card minus lands ... you should do a expensive cards not added but mentioned idk
@lorenzobosch92604 жыл бұрын
She’s stunning.
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Jirina?
@ultra20194 жыл бұрын
the human/non-human strat is broken af. non-human currently wins easy in all non-rotating formats, shark jumped!
@workyoutube77984 жыл бұрын
Not looking forward to this commander, honestly. Great video though!
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Not looking forward to this commander?
@workyoutube77984 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Yes; corrected. Thank you.
@EyesofRinnegan4 жыл бұрын
no board wipes? *cough* Kindred Dominance *cough*
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Totally awesome card in this deck, same with the Mardu Ultimatum which we would have 100% included if it was spoiled sooner haha. Sadly Kindred was outside the budget of this deck by a lot (card is suprisingly pricey!) but I'm sure the Ultimatum will be like a bulk rare!
@EyesofRinnegan4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Oh god I didnt notice
@owenwillcox52464 жыл бұрын
I like this deck although I’m not gonna play Jirina I’ll probably play silvar and trynn
@roberthansen42664 жыл бұрын
"Die better" reminds me of The Hound on GOT saying, "You're shit at dying, you know that." kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqrCeGCpftB6aNk
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
Never seen GoT or that scene before... geez. Love a good pre-murder roast! -Beezy
@joyboy17344 жыл бұрын
This deck looks good and fun why do people always shit on it?
@NitpickingNerds4 жыл бұрын
This seems like easily one of the stronger precons out of the box. Maybe people underestimate the +2/+0
@joyboy17344 жыл бұрын
Nitpicking Nerds yeah and if people listen to your upgrades then they will prove the buff human chads will win