RV Surge Protection & Essential Electric Adapters

#rvsurgeprotector #rvelectricadapters #rvpowerprotection What's in your RV electric kit? Here we discuss RV surge protection, RV electric adapters to convert 30 amp, two 30 amp, even standard 15 amp household plug to a 50 amp connection. We also show our RV electrical connection we use when the 5th wheel is parked at our home.
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[@MarkRansom4365]

Great "Honest" advice video for new RV'ers who don't know what basic electrical things they might need. Presented in an easy-to-follow form from a very nice guy. Thanks Jerry

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks

[@johnnyyarbrough9716]

The surgegard is a must . It has surly saved our RV several times . Great video . Every new RV owner needs to watch this . Thanks for the video .

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Johnny. Thanks for the kind comment. Jerry...

[@mikechamplain2425]

Excellent job explaining and showing how those adapters work and descriptions of products...thanks

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks Mike.

[@jessicakirsh]

So helpful! I’m brand new to full-time RV living!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Glad we could help!

[@ladyjay6741]

So glad you explained all this. My son just said I need to be careful with the electrical part of Rving. I am going online right now to order that big thing. Thank you so much. I understood all of what you said. When I first bought my RV I don't think I understood what they were talking about. Maybe there was just too much to absorb and I went brain dead, but I understood what you said. Thanks again, Happy Trails. Love North Carolina in the summer. Mountain views are spectacular! Hi Joan. See ya'll.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Super. Joan promised she would come out of hiding for the NC trip!!!

[@kiwibean5586]

I'm buying my first travel trailer and this video was very helpful. I'm excited to get on the road and I want to be safe. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks. Always glad to share.

[@suzannecossette1879]

Driveway surf 🏄‍♂️! Thank you for this very informative video. P.S. Love the target practice stencil on your door.. great deterrent👌 Safe journeys ❣

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks. Glad you found the video helpful. You’re the first to notice the results of a fun afternoon. Safe travels.

[@LundyWilder]

Start watching at 4 minutes

[@captainfatty6852]

I had a feeling you were rude, your comment well what a shame.

[@TripDadLife]

Thank you

[@thomasshelby1922]

I absolutly hate instructional videos that aren’t straight to the point, but I will say after finishing this one the main thing I took from this video is 1. I need to find a different video as a reference guide the info was excellent but it could have been given in about 5 minutes lol but 2. I was asked many times as a kid “what do you wanna be when you get older” and it’s varied in responses but as a 25 Year old whose Brain is just now fully developed I can absolutely say when I get older I want to be Jerry. So thanks for that Jerry and hope you all the best I’m the future

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks Thomas. I really appreciate the kind comments.

[@shufflerp3868]

I like the Hughs Watchdog. When the surge is used up you can replace the surge module in the 50amp for about $40 instead of buying a whole new unit. It also has Bluetooth so you can monitor power usage on the fly with your phone or tablet. It also checks wiring and grounds.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Our does the wiring and ground check too. Won’t allow power to pass if a fault occurs. I like the ideas of replacing the surge module and Bluetooth monitor. I’ll check it out.

[@dartht.3736]

Jerry, I'm a new follower and just got my RV. When you split the 50A to two 30A you did the math and said... "That's 60A" . I think the 50A is 50A on each side (L1 and L2 eacth) . I saw your home is 2 30A breakers, but every RV Park I've seen (not a lot) the 50A has 2 50A breakers... so technically 100A total. I think most RV's put 1 AC and some other stuff on each line. So you probably don't go over 30A per Line. If I'm wrong let me know as I'm still learning at full throttle.

[@iLoveRVlife]

I wasn't very clear was I? Your square on Darren. Here's the math. Using a 30 to 50 amp dog leg shares only 30 amps total on both the L1 and L2 legs. Using two 30 amp connections on the Y dog leg to the 50 amp, gives a total of 60 amps, 30 on L1 and 30 on L2. On a true 50 amp connection, there are two 50 amp breakers with 50 amps on L1 and 50 on L2. And agree on the load split for most RVs. Some of the larger 45 foot models have 3 ACs and it can get a little tricky. Appreciate the comment.

[@johnturner7322]

Nice job! I have not had those electrical hook-up issues in any campsites I have gone to, but then I only require 30amps too! I did go to one site that only had a 50amp service but they provided a 50-30 adapter, for our new 21' TT "couples camper"(4th one we have owned). I live in southeastern NC. Hope you and your family had a great visit to our mountains.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi John and thanks much for the kind comment. We ran into an instance once where the campground offered an adapter for two 30's to a 50. The adapters have been most beneficial when we go to a State or Federal park. We love camping in these places, but "if you needed it, you better bring it.". Looking forward to our spring trip. We're planning on a couple NC stops. Bryson City is already on the list. Jerry...

[@jenfugit7801]

I just had this come up. I have a 30amp and was traveling to a park that only listed 50amp online. So I had to go find where I put my dogbone...which I was SURE I'd purchased and was in some storage place in my camper. LOL Dogbone was located before heading out and once at the campsite I found it wasn't needed. I also have an extension for my regular shore cord and an adapter to use a house outlet. Of course you need to be sure you aren't overloading a circuit while using any add ons. Maybe you can confirm, but I've always been under the impression that it is easier to step up than step down? i.e. it is better for a 30amp rig to hook up to a 50amp site with a dogbone than vice versa.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Little benefit with 50 to 30. You still have 30 amp breakers inside the camper. I just finished evaluating a very interesting product and will release the video this Saturday. For those connecting to 30amp pedestals or a generator, this is going to be a game changer.

[@stevehildreth1934]

Another great video! I am a couple days away from having electrical done for our double RV pad (a spot for our RV and one for guests). When all's complete we will have two full RV hook ups. As an electrician, I recomend always moving up a gauge on electrical extension cords. Be sure the wire is heavy enough to carry the current load! And our new 50 amp surge protector arrives tomorrow to go with our new 37 foot 5th Wheel!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Great advice Steve. Enjoy that new 5th wheel.

[@boatbuilder1]

Jerry, Great advice! In 2011 I had a Brand new 5th wheel trailer and took it to Florida and stayed in 5 or 6 RV parks. We were suppose to have two more parks on our winter trip but the first night we pulled into Jensen Beach RV Park I was connecting the water,electric and sewer and after connecting the electric I was connecting the sewer and my wife came out yelling "The trailer is on fire"! I ran in the trailer and smoke and popping noises were coming out from a corner cabinet so I ripped the shelves out of the cabinet and saw the Converter smoking and frying basically so I ran out and unplugged the 50 amp service. I did not have a surge protector but after I got my trailer repaired that is the first thing I did. I bought the Progressive industries built in surge protector,the best one they make cost about $450. You can get cheaper ones but by all means everyone should have a surge protector. My surge protector saved me 1 other time at Williston Crossing near Ocala FL. so I defiantly recommend them.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Great advice. Great to hear you didn't lose your camper. Sounds like a close one. Mine has saved us several times, both from bad storms and faulty campground electrical service. Jerry...

[@earlribaudo4807]

I also bought a 50 Amp plug to 5th wheel so when I am in a park with a short run to the power, I don' t have to run my long cord. Saves time and don't have to struggle winding that long cord when ready to leave.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Great tip Earl.

[@cynthiacrumpcarnes6840]

Hi Jerry. Forgive me for being confused here, but I was looking at your link above of your rv supply list, and the surge protector listed there is different from the one in this video. So which 50 amp surge protector are you now using or which one have you found to be the better? Thanks so much. I'm new to your site, but it seems very professional, informative, and helpful.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Understand Cynthia. We’ve found both the Southwire and the Progressive are simular in feature and function. Southwire changed the style since the video, but is virtually the same as the one you saw. Southwire may have had production issues for a while and they couldn’t be found. We added the Progressive as an alternative. Either one will serve you well.

[@dennishendricks3158]

Your video was very informative and well put together. I am taking delivery on my first 5th wheel in a few weeks and you have answered most all of my concerns about the accessories I may need to operate the electrical hook ups safely.

[@iLoveRVlife]

That’s great Dennis. Have a great time in the new 5th wheel.

[@gladuwf]

Good information. I installed a Progressive Industries 30A hard wired power management/ surge protector unit in our Class C shore power cabinet, really like it, plus it's locked up and out of sight. Another nice thing is it monitors generator power as well as city power. We can actually run our AC on 20A, the surge says it draws 16A, I wouldn't want to do it though without the protection of the power management unit.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi MIke and Willene. Strongly agree. We've had to many close calls either from power fluxuations or nearby lightning strikes, without our power management unit we would have had damaged everything electrical in the RV. Safe travels.

[@MagaRickn]

Very good information. We are purchasing our first RV. Diesel Pusher with Generator. But my question is; Where is the best source for purchasing RV supplies? Is there an online source? I doubt that the local RV dealer would be an 'economical' source. ;)

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks. Amazon has worked well for us. We have tested a number of RV products and have videos on many. Check our RV Accessories page at www.ilovervlife.com/rv-accessories/. We have description for each and will show videos for those we use on a regular basis.

[@EOWweekendRVer]

Thank you so much. My question to you is....and, let me see if I can phrase this properly; I have a 50 amp class A RV. I carry both a 50 amp surge protector as well as a 30 amp surge protector. If I want to plug my rig into my home outlet and I step down from 50 amp to 30 amp and subsequently to 15 amp in order to plug into my home, can I (or should I) use one of my surge protectors somewhere inline? Your response to this question will be highly appreciated as I have never plugged into my home before. Thanks again.

[@iLoveRVlife]

I only use the 50 amp surge protector regardless of connection. If 30 to 50 or 15 to 50, I put the surge protector between the adapter and the 50 amp cord going to the RV. It will protect both the L1 and L2 feeds into the RV.

[@EOWweekendRVer]

@@iLoveRVlife Thank you so much for your response. Sorry, if you would allow me one more question, please. Do I need to step down directly from a 50 amp to a 15 amp dogbone or can I do it gradually from 50 amp to 30 amp and then down to 15 amp. I am asking only because I don't have a 50 to 15 adapter but I do have the rest. Or, is it better to purchase the 50 to 15? Thanks again.

[@iLoveRVlife]

No problem, glad to help. You can make the step down, but I prefer “a less is more” approach. The more elements added in a circuit can add to problems. These adapters aren’t expensive and a good add to your kit. I probably have one of each just in case.

[@EOWweekendRVer]

@@iLoveRVlife Thank you so much. You have been very helpful. Yes, I will be adding that to my kit.

[@ibcontent]

Sorry but the one protector you show is a TRC brand (top rated) Your Amazon link is to another brand, "South Wire". THese are 2 different companies. So am I missing something as to the switch?

[@iLoveRVlife]

The video is a couple years old and model shown isn’t available any longer. The new TRC and Southwire look identical and have similar specs.

[@sydneyfrancesca]

Our power wouldn’t stay on I didn’t know we needed a surge protector, this helps a lot! Thank you!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Sidney. The surge protector won’t keep the power on, but protects the RV from a rise in voltage or bad power. Always glad to help.

[@rghicklin]

my wife and myself love your show. got a few questions. Bought our 5th wheel in August, it is a 50 amp camper with residential fridge. We are new to camping. Our son is a competition clay target shooter. We have used it twice at the gun club in Savannah, no problems 50 amp service. We are going to Jacksonville gun club in February, they have 30 amp service. I already have the 30 amp to 50 amp adapter. Here are my questions: 1. Will my 50 amp surge protector work fine, or do i need to get a 30 amp surge protector for 30 amp hook ups? 2. Have you had any issues running your camper on the 30 amp service? for example A/c and fridge at same time( i know we can only run 1 a/c at a time), 12 volt system staying charged(i have 2 rv deep cycle batteries from napa) 3. any other things We are just curious, dont want to roll up to the gun club in Jacksonville and not be prepared Thank you

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Robert and thanks. 1. No problem using the 50 protector. Do this all the time. 2. It’s a balance. Just remember. 30 amps only shared on both he L1 and L2 leg vs 50 amp each. Power management is key. Frig and AC ok. Frig and microwave ok. Frig and hair drier ok. Frig and coffee maker ok. Frig and toaster ok. Run water heater on propane to save amps. A TV with those above ok. Just have to remember to use one of the big draw items at a time. 3. If you can find a power post with 2 - 30’s, home run. Using the double 30 to 50 dog leg isn’t the same as a 50, but doubles the capacity. Have a great time at the shoot. Sounds fun.

[@rghicklin]

Thank you Jerry Don’t live far from you in GA We are up in Fayetteville. In construction and did jobs for 5 years at Robbins AFB Look forward to seeing your videos

[@daveroe8612]

Great video Jerry, every RVER needs to build their own Electrical kit based on the camper they own,!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks Dave. Better than one of those "oh shoot, how do we plug in to this" deals.

[@BlackDragonNationalPresident]

Thanks so much Jerry. I'm researching the best surge protection I can buy and this video has really helped. Does it boost or manage low voltage issues?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Glad this helped. These units are protection for surge or low voltage. For low voltage, the unit will turn off. There is a meter to show current amperage draw and voltage level. I have the 50 amp model and it's saved us a number of times. I've been in a number of campgrounds and boost has never been an issue.

[@robertsitch1415]

I believe that Surge Guard and Progressive Industries are the only ones making RV surge protectors for the North American market.

[@timpope1221]

Thanks for taking the time to make this video, safe travels to you and yours !

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks Tim. Glad you found the information useful.

[@bradmiller3557]

Jerry: Wow, 2 days and I’m reaching out to you again. RE: Y-Cable. I have one of these, never been to a site where there were two 30 amp plugs on a single pole. But, I have plugged one in to my 30 amp plug, then used my 30 amp extension cord to an empty next door site for the other leg of the Y-Cable. I still got 30 amp, not 60 so says my energy mgmt system??????? I’m handy but not an electrician. The breakers and GFCs didn’t blow. Someday I’ll figure this one out. Love your videos, keep up the fun work.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks a bunch Brad. Not sure how the energy management system is reading the circuit. In this set up, you'll have 30 amps on each power leg. With a 50 amp, you have 50 each. What does the power management system read on a 50 amps service?

[@bradmiller3557]

I Love RV Life Larry, it reads 50 amp in 50 amp service. On my Onan 5500 generator it reads 45 amps. On 30 amp service it reads 30 amps. On the Y-cable it reads 30 amp. On my next adventure (2 weeks), I’ll do a volt meter read on both 30 amp services, Engage the Y-cable and read the volts on the cable prior to plugging into the RV. I’ll report my findings. Thanks tons for your time, I know you’re busy.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Always glad to help Brad.

[@ginavanbeck8134]

Great video. Thanks. I will say one thing about theft for surge protector. All someone has to do is unplug it and cut the cord and run so I would suggest running a cable through plastic lock cap and connect to pole!! Bam!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Good tip. Thanks.

[@josephmilbrandt5322]

Jerry we just did strip through Michigan and up through upper peninsula and so many campgrounds have shared box Locations with plenty of power BUT we wish we had that rear location for power cord. Well we never needed anything but our 25’ cord but breaking out the wallet for that 15’ extension. Headed to The Bad Lands and Mount Rushmore then back to Southwestern New York before the 4th season hits🥴

[@iLoveRVlife]

We don't use ours often, maybe a couple of times a year. Handy when needed though. Safe travels out west.

[@PanzerGunsAmmo]

Great Viideo, so can add those amp converter to the power surge without issues? ie 110 converter to the pedestal, to the EMS to 50 amp cord to the trailer?

[@iLoveRVlife]

The surge protector works for both power legs into the 50 amp RV feed. Anything to the surge protector works.

[@PanzerGunsAmmo]

@@iLoveRVlife thanks

[@bobshoemaker2677]

Great video Depending where the rv electric panel is in the rv maybe look into having a new electric input connection installed mid point on the rv. There is no code as to where the ac in connection is located only that it is wired correctly so it is compliant with a code supplied electrical connection. I have done alot of electrical on rv and electrical connections at homes for rv. Also on your panel at home for your rv why did your electrician use a small piece of Romex wire to the rv socket and not just shot pipe nipple. Everything else is in conduit just does look good but is legal. Thanks for the video loved it.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks for the tip. Since the video, I had the wiring upgrade.

[@Scottrz28]

Hello thank you very helpful video - I just bought a camper wired for 50 but we only have 1 AC unit. My champion rv ready gen/inverter has a 30 but no 50 outlet so needed to get a dogbone for that. The 2 30/30 to 50 adapter was new to me so that is pretty cool

[@iLoveRVlife]

Scott, the 30 to 50 is the trick for the generator. The dual 30 is a great one to have. About once a year we go somewhere that that has two 30. Still have to manage the the appliances.

[@MarkLuffman]

Thanks for the tips!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Glad to share Mark.

[@lutinab5265]

Thank you so much for making such a great detailed video!! I'm a Newbie who literally knew nothing about RV life til a few months ago and not one person to guide me. I just purchased a Class A, 50amp, residential fridge, and two air conditioners. I'd love it if you could make a video on how to initially set up a RV such as this video with the power electrical hookups. I especially appreciate you listing the recommendated items as I have no idea what to buy. Awesome video!! 😊

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi LuTina. Thanks much for the kind comment. Also thanks for the suggestion. That will be a future video.

[@jackmeyers40]

Thank you for the help .

[@iLoveRVlife]

Always glad to help.

[@reneemundon555]

Thanks Jerry for all the videos

[@iLoveRVlife]

Appreciate you watching the channel.

[@davidchenevert5143]

So thanks for the info. I had another question about electric hook up. If I have a 30 amp cord .I also have a 50 amp adapter. Should I hook up to the 50 or 30 amp outlet.thanks.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi David. If your RV is 30 amp, there could be a little benefit connecting to the 50 amp shore power. This takes one of the 50 amp legs and powers the RV. But, I suspect the main breaker in the RV is 30 amps and would trip first if over loaded. I'd leave the adapter in the RV and connect straight to the 30 amp if available. Hope this helps.

[@topnotchreviewer1429]

Kudos, well done. What you didn't show is your 10 gauge extension cord when using your 50 to 15 amp yellow pigtail. I have the same item, but only from 30 to 15 amp. Mine is by Marinco. I noticed that yours has the same lock screw in the 15 amp end.

[@iLoveRVlife]

True. Many thanks for the kind comment and the tip.

[@brianpeterson9923]

What is the lock screw for, and how is it used?

[@andyd1006]

Great video sir. I recently bought my first rv which is a 30 amp. I will definitely make a electrical kit. Where did you get the small aluminum step that was in front of the rv steps?

[@iLoveRVlife]

That was a Harbor Freight special and I cut a couple inches of the legs.

[@andyd1006]

@@iLoveRVlife ok thank you

[@paulastangler2466]

Thank you for doing this video. You explained everything in a way that I could understand! Hope your vacation is a blast!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks so much Paula. Great to hear you found this helpful.

[@toddschartner6695]

With the 50 to 15 amp cord do you need surge protection? And if so what do you recommend? Thanks for the post!

[@iLoveRVlife]

I do. Don’t suggest the cheap appliance units. Tend to overhear. A little pricy, but look for the Tripp Lites.

[@BLohr707]

Make your way to Cali! Great weather ! We are spoiled

[@iLoveRVlife]

What part? I've spent a huge amount of time from Cali coast to desert. Plans this winter for AZ and NM. You never know, we may try and sneak in!

[@BLohr707]

I Love RV Life haha nice! Well if you head up north and drive along the old Highway 101. To see all of the redwoods!

[@Hittman67]

I notice that the lid hits the bottom of the compartment door. It also looks like you could remount the slider tray towards the outside of the compartment 3 more inches, would that solve that problem? BTW great video of the review and genius aluminum riser installation!!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks. There was a little more room to move forward, but the door hit the latch. Not an issue. Plenty of room to add or take items out.

[@Hittman67]

Oh ok couldn't see that from my angle. Take care and love your coach and vidz

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks a bunch

[@ginavanbeck8134]

Anyone ever tell you that you resemble Jimmy Carter? Lol! Once again great video.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Several have shared. Guess it’s that southern twang 😏

[@richardmack5265]

It's the design of the RV .

[@artfuldodger870]

GREAT video! Oldie but a Goldie!!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks Stephanie. That video still holds true. Glad to hear you found it helpful.

[@JeffPalmer941]

Great video. I would like to clear up a couple things though. The connector that you call the "cheater" can damage electronics and appliances. My guess is, you have onboard energy management so it's not an issue for you. However, a lot of RV's dont. The problem is, you have to be *sure* the two legs are 180 degress out of phase (ie, providing 240v) I'd use a multimeter for that. L1 and L2 together should provide 240. L1 or L2 to neutral should provide 120v. One other clarification. you mentioned that "2 30's is actually better than a 50" which is actually incorrect. 30a 120v = 3600 watts. 2 30a legs is 7200 watts. a 50a 240v is 12,000 watts. (6,000 per leg). Hope that helps!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Jeff. L1 and L2 do not provide 240v. This isn’t a household stove or dryer connection. Each leg is a separate 120v leg split at the RV service panel.

[@JeffPalmer941]

@@iLoveRVlife understood. But that is my point. If someone didn't have a power management system, any 240v appliance is likely to be damaged by this adapter, because it's getting 120v on each leg, but it's not 180 degree phased

[@iLoveRVlife]

Gotcha. Typically, we find RV appliances are 120v.

[@marksjunction69]

Thanks Jerry......you changed my mind on the surge protector. I have one question. Can you dogbone the 50 amp surge protector to a 30 amp power source with no issues?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Mark. I do this all the time in State and COE parks.

[@PaulKeepsItReal]

@@iLoveRVlife I was wondering a similar thing and I think you answered my question. So in order to get the benefit of your surge protector at a 30 amp hookup, you just plug your surge protector into your dogbone and it works the same even though it's working off of 30 amps instead of 50? Great video! Lots of fantastic information!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Absolutely Paul. The 30 amp is sharing power on both 50 amp legs. Adding the surge protector between the dog bone and 50 amp cable ensures both side are protected.

[@claudius622]

Hi Jerry, again, great informative presentation, surge protection is a must . After a couple of considerations I finally went with the permanent style, in my case I chose the Progressive Industries brand. So now I have a permanent installation, no worries about forgetting it or have it stolen and it was in the same range of price.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Claudius. Wise move. Ours has saved our RV electrical systems many times over. Safe travels.

[@claudius622]

There is no chance to take and you're right it's the whole electrical system not only the surge. Its really a reliable Insurance and a peace of mind.

[@fordfan3179]

Great info. Love that double 30 amp adapter and the 50 to 20 amp plug.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks Neil.

[@MrKevinvoigt]

I might be missing something and I did go ahead and buy the lock and hasp. However, what is to prevent somebody from simply unplugging from the pedestal as well as the coach and absconding with a $300 power cable?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Not a thing. Just trying to make the process a little difficut.

[@MrKevinvoigt]

Running a cable through your wheel hub and padlock into a metal ring on the cord might be the answer here. At the end of the day if somebody wants to steal your stuff they’re going to. Doesn’t mean we have to make it easy for them! Appreciate your channel. Where do I find one of your cheaters?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks a bunch. We have a list of RV accessories we use on our web sites with links to Amazon. Check out ilovervlife.com/rv-accessories/

[@n1spirit]

I always look at the comments section for each piece of equipment I'm thinking about buying (especially on Amazon where it's so easy for people to comment). I wasn't very impressed with the plastic box setup to discourage theft of the surge protector but a comment by somebody on that product on Amazon gave what was (in my opinion) the PERFECT solution. You might want to consider this moving forward. Go get a 12" length of zinc plated (or stainless, whatever you prefer) chain and two locks. Secure a lock through each end of the chain and AROUND the cord above the surge protector on one end and past the head of your power line on the other end. You've effectively locked both cables together. Granted, if they REALLY want the surge protector they might cut your cord to the RV but I'm thinking that's much less likely to happen than them taking a good whack at the plastic box with a large rock or tool. Wish I could post a photo in the comments; I'd show you exactly what his setup looks like but I'm confident you'll know what I'm talking about. That's the solution I'm going with, along with an extra length of chain and two extra locks just in case I need to use the extension cord. (To be honest, this is encouragement to USE the extension cord since, if their fully intent on taking the SP they might be kind enough to cut my extension cord INSTEAD of the power cord to the RV.)

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Michael. Good option. I’ve seen the comments and purchased anyway. Agree, it’s plastic and a sledge hammer and some effort would break it. But, if someone wants to go to all that effort, they’ll unplug the works and run anyway. Hope is the bad guys will look at it and determine it’s not worth the effort. Good campgrounds and nice neighbors are the best deterrent. If we go somewhere and it starts getting sketchy, we just move on down the road. Really appreciate your comments and suggestions. Safe travels. Jerry...

[@annanabil73]

You can save yourself money in theft protection by simply buying the hard-wired version. Just set it and forget it. This can save you alot of trouble when setting up your hookups & save yourself the 3 or 4 steps to secure the unit unto the pedestal everytime you go to a campground. The one from Progressive Industries is specifically made for RVs designed by an RV owner. The Surge Guard has been reported to melt and their warranty doesn't cover restorations or repairs of the unit or any of your appliances that could be damaged. PI (made in USA) is preferred by most RV dealers, since they've seen ALOT of the issues with the Surge Guard (made in China) hard-wired option. Find your local dealership to have a hard-wired unit properly installed at your next maintenance check. Or look on KZbin for a proper DIY (fair warning, not having a licensed electrician or RV dealership do it can void the warranty of the unit).

[@lindagross8112]

Thanks, Jerry. We will take all this into consideration when we buy our Rv.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Linda, so glad you found the information helpful. Jerry....

[@marquesjones5277]

I love the video as a new camper. One thing, you mentioned the 50 amp surge protector and a 30 amp version. Will the 50 amp work with all the hookups like the two 30 amp connections you spoke about? To simplify do I need to purchase more than one surge protector?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Marques. Thanks much. Glad you're enjoying the videos. If you have a 50 amp camper, then two 30 amp adapters you may want to consider. The single 30 to 50 amp converter. Just remember, you'll need to do some power management, since this adapter is splitting one 30 amp circuit across two 50 amp circuits to the camper. Then the two 30s to 50 amp converter adds a 30 amp to each 50 amp circuit to the camper. Not as much power management here, but can be an issue. One surge protector is all that's needed. For the 50, just plug into the adapter, then the 50 amp cord from the camper into the surge protector. Hope this helps. Jerry...

[@marquesjones5277]

@@iLoveRVlife thanks for the reply. I think I mislead you. My question is with the surge protector. Do I need more than one if I am using the two 30 amp adapter cords?

[@iLoveRVlife]

No, just the one. Plug it in the 50 amp side of the adapter and then camper extension into the surge protector.

[@ericmcdonald9735]

Very Helpful. Thanks! Just ordered surge protector for new Class B MH.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Eric. Glad we could share. Good investment.

[@lisastrickle5906]

Does the surge protector you use correct any of the polarity or other problems so you can still use that outlet or is it telling you so you move to a different spot

[@iLoveRVlife]

No correction Lisa. It only shows thing such as reversed hot and neutral leads, etc. Had it happen a couple of times and this should be fixed for safety reasons. Everytime, the campground corrected in short order.

[@jbmolina111]

Great video!! Thank you. Where do I get the lockbox for surge protector?

[@iLoveRVlife]

This is the one I use amzn.to/38mn1HA

[@jmjbedpa]

Jerry, Thanks so much. I am going to purchase a Fifth wheel toy hauler RV eventually. Doing a lot of research. Thanks for your video. Have a great day !

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks Mike. Glad to share.

[@goodxrvn2053]

Thanks for the videos, they are enjoyable. One note, the double 30 amp to 50 amp dogbone may work for some but if your rig has a Energy Management System (EMS) this dogbone will only provide 30 amp. On a Class A with a reasonable complete electrical panel, this dogbone at best will provide only 30 amp similar to a standard 30 amp to 50 amp dogbone. My goal was to run both A/Cs which are on separate legs of the 50 amp service, L1 goes to the living area, L2 to the bedroom. No luck.

[@iLoveRVlife]

That's interesting. I tested mine. One 30 goes to L1 and the other goes to L2. With mine it looks like a true 50 or 60 in my case. Wonder if there was a wiring problem with the dog bone?

[@goodxrvn2053]

I Love RV Life let me recheck all my systems to attempt to determine why this has happened

[@iLoveRVlife]

It sounds like one leg is dead or both sides are pulling power from one 30 amp breaker, not both on each leg. Good luck. Jerry...

[@bernie9728]

@@iLoveRVlife You still don't quite have this right. With a standard 50 amp connection you have 50 amps available on each leg with the double 30 you will only have 30 amps on each leg. If you were to exceed 30 amps on either leg the breaker will trip and you will lose power to that leg. With a 50 amp service you won't lose power until you exceed 50 amps on either leg.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Bernie, you're a 100% correct. I misspoke. Thanks for sharing. Jerry...

[@brendaatwell9810]

do you use a different surge protector for plugging in to 50 amp and 30 amp or can you use the same one on either

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Brenda. No issues using the same surge protector.

[@earlribaudo4807]

Also, I think the reason the connector is in the rear, mayby, I do not know, most power is at the rear of the trailer, or close to the rear? Love watching your videos, very in formative. Thanks.

[@iLoveRVlife]

I wish Earl. Maybe it’s a regional thing. Most of the time they fall near the middle of the 5th wheel. We had one this year close to the front. Thank goodness for the extension on that one.

[@AnimandoteConLaPalabra]

Great video. What do you think of the Surge Guard 44270 Entry Level Portable Surge Protector - 50 Amp for $97.99 built by the same company? What are the differences from your model?

[@iLoveRVlife]

A few differences. You do get the surge protection, but LEDs only of wiring faults. The unit I use also provides true voltage and amperage per leg. Was helpful last week when the breaker kept blowing and showed park maintenance that we were well below max amperage. No debate, they replaced breaker and all was well. The other biggie is how it protects if a high or low voltage event occurs. This is very helpful during storms when power fluctuates. If you have a low voltage event, this unit will shut down for two and a half minutes to prevent burning up the compressor on you AC.

[@nastytwin1019]

Great video !! Learned a lot as a newbie .. your well spoken to which helps a lot Thanks again!!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks much. So glad you found the video helpful.

[@djdarrenrv]

very complete video. nicely done!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks a bunch. Hope the information was helpful.

[@jddr.jkindle9708]

Very good presentation, One major note though, at 14:40 , that is a 15 amp plug, not a 20 amp plug. A 20 amp plug has the blade @ 90 degrees from one another.

[@iLoveRVlife]

You are correct. Thanks much for sharing.

[@jabojr5171]

Great video, thank you for the great info. Is this unit water sealed??? If it rains, will that cause problems??? Thank you again.

[@iLoveRVlife]

The surge protector is sealed and no issue in the rain. Sometimes the power connection for the 50 amp plug may be a little low. If this happens I place the connection from the main power cord to the surge protector on a block of wood so it won't set on the ground.

[@MrKevinvoigt]

Howdy. How often have you found a dual 30 AMP pedestal at a destination? Is that common?

[@iLoveRVlife]

It was a surprise. Maybe once a year. We knew this was a 30 amp site and expected to do the power budget thing. It was 90 yesterday and with both 30 ran the front and back ACs at the same time.

[@freedomgrandma7165]

Great information now I'm going shopping...

[@iLoveRVlife]

Great to hear we were helpful.

[@Dannemanful]

A nice and informative clip. I save this one on my list that I call; useful Rv tips. 😀

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks Dan. Great to know it was helpful.

[@4uafunguy]

Thank you for the great video it helps alot. Were new to camping btw I like that you didnt curse at all dang nabit 👍🏻

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks Tony. We promise to keep the channel family friendly.

[@ImmaHogg]

Do I need to have 2 surge protectors? You have one for 50 amp, but do you still use the same surge protector if you only have a 30 amp connection, and how do you use it and hook it up? What does your readout on the surge protector indicate when hooked up to 30 amp?

[@iLoveRVlife]

I used just the 50 amp. On a 30 amp connection the 30 to 50 shares the circuit on the L1 and L2 legs. Plug the surge protector into the 30 to 50 dog leg. It will read both legs from the adapter. Provides same protection between shore power and RV.

[@ImmaHogg]

@@iLoveRVlife Thank you!

[@servispg]

Wonder if you took an adaptor if you could hook the dual 30 amp cable you have there to one 30 amp and one 20 amp breaker?

[@iLoveRVlife]

There are 30 - 20 to 50 amp adapters. It places a 30 on one leg and the 20 on the other leg of the 50 amp plug. If you don’t know what’s powered on the 20 amp leg, then the breaker blows. Also, some campgrounds only provide a 30 amp main to pedestals that are 30 - 20 only. Trying to use both can trip the main breaker. Same would apply to converting one of the 30s to a 20 amp plug.

[@jeffreyries8432]

Need help with an electrical hookup. Heading to my father in-laws for the 4th of July, he says he has 220v in the garage i can hook up to to run my RV AC 13,500 BTUs. Can i plug my 30 amp service into a 220 volt outlet? Electrically Challenged.

[@iLoveRVlife]

You can if its single phase (110 on the L1 and L2 style of the plug). There are several outlet styles, but if he has the outlet as found in RV parks (NEMA 14-50R), you can use a 50 amp to 30 amp dog leg (adapter) to convert. Here’s one from Amazon amzn.to/2JQFp0C. May be able find something similar at a Camping World you pass on the way.

[@wcarlhepker4806]

On a fifty amp RV connection, you do NOT have fifty amps to SHARE between L1 and L2. You have fifty amps on L1 and another fifty amps on L2. This gives you one hundred amps in the one hundred twenty volt world. Using two thirty amp connections gives you a sixty amp connection. You do not get more power out of two thirty amp connections than you do out of one fifty amp connection! You get forty percent less power! Using an adaptor with a thirty amp plug and a fifty amp outlet with too light a wire does not cause the fuse breaker to blow. What it does do is cause a significant voltage drop within the adapter causing the appliances in your RV to run on lower than specified voltage. It is possible that the wire in the adaptor gets hot enough that the copper wire melts causing it to act like a fuse, but it is more probable that the appliances inside the RV will be telling you something is wrong before you get to that point. If it does trip the breaker, it is because the motor is trying to get the job done on too low a voltage and draws too much current trying to do so. You can run a thirteen and one half thousand BTU air conditioner on a twenty amp circuit as it only draws ten amps. You cannot run a power hungry hair dryer, or your microwave oven at the same time. But you can run your thirteen and one half thousand BTU air conditioner and stay cool while you cook with propane or charcoal outdoors to keep the load on your air conditioner down. I hope this is helpful. That is the intent! It not intended to be critical, but a proper understanding of what is happening will help prevent misconcept to be propagated.

[@iLoveRVlife]

You are 100% correct. My error on the 2 30's. Our 5th wheel has a 15,000 BTU AC in the front and a 13,500 BTU in the bedroom. Fortunately each are wired for each leg. We've never has an issue running both, but a little management is required with the microwave or hair dryer.

[@noHandle1776]

hey @I Love RV Life - just sying, your groupings got me to subscribe :) good video, moving from a 30a 5th wheel to our new 50a 5th wheel this video was helpful.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks a bunch Scott. Appreciate the sub and kind comment.

[@infinion3]

Help! i have a tricky one, im a truck camper, i have a 30 amp, BUT, i use an adapter so that from my camper, i have a long extension cord 15 amp typical 120v plug. I will be camping at a site that has 50 amp only. can i use a 50-30 amp adapter, then another adapter 30-15 amp then plug my extension cord there? my camper only uses microwave and a small refrigerator, no AC

[@iLoveRVlife]

Maybe a better option. Here’s a 50 amp male plug to typical 15 amp 120 volt adapter amzn.to/2wqMhwe. Hope that helps.

[@EcoPower2TheMoon]

Is there surge proctors for when you plug into your home 20/15 amp?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Dylan, we use the same surge protector. We use a 20/15 amp to 50 amp adapter and have the surge protector between the adapter and 50 power cord. Works perfect.

[@COBBADAMS]

This was a very good video. Thank you. Can you please provide a link to the theft cover you have?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Cobb and thanks a bunch. The cover only works with the older units. The formate has changed with the Southwire models. If you have an older Surge Guard or a Camco unit, this will work. amzn.to/2v1bigT

[@COBBADAMS]

@@iLoveRVlife Thank you very much Sir

[@horsbuf]

I just bought a horse trailer with living quarters that has 50 amp service. I ordered the dogbone 50 amp female to 30 amp male adapter as well as the Y connector, but it has 50 amp to 30 & 15 amp connector at the double end. Can I use the dogbone adapter to plug in to a generator? Will a Honda 3000 produce enough power to run a/c & microwave? Can I use the Y connector to keep it plugged in to 110 connection while parked to keep batteries charged?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Sylvia, This is going to be a long answer, so bear with me. I've tried to use the combined 30/15 to 50 dog bone with mixed results. I gave it away and no longer use. The 50 amp plug has two 115 volt legs. This dog bone places the 30 amp on one leg and the 15 on the other. We constantly blew the 15 amp breaker and feared we would eventually cause harm to one of our ACs or an appliance. You could try with the generator since it has both a 30 and 15 receptacle, but you only have 3000 watts and the 30 amp plug will consume all the generator has to offer. Using Ohms Law, 3000 watts divided by 115 volts equals 26 amps. Depending on the AC, you may be able to run the AC or the microwave, but not both at the same time. You didn't mention the size of the AC, but the Honda 3000 watt generator is top of the line and will easily run a 13,500 BTU AC or smaller. I know some who've had success running a 15,000 BTU, but sometimes you may need to replace the start capacitor in the AC to give the compressor a kick. I would not use the Y dog bone unless both the 30 and 15 were plugged in, If you want to keep the batteries charged, consider the 15 to 50 dog bone. They're not very expensive and you don't run the risk of a loose plug with possible AC hurting someone. Hope this helps - Jerry

[@raven7068]

Great video thank you for the detailed description. I've been considering this 50 amp surge protector for some time but I do have a question. I have a 50 amp motorhome but sometimes I can only have access to a 30 amp plug. I have an adapter that goes to 50 to 30 amp, if I get the 50 amp surge protector and I go to a 30 amp plug, would the 50 amp surge protector still work or do I have to have to 30 amp surge protector?

[@iLoveRVlife]

It will. I use it the same way in Federal and State Parks. Use the 30 to 50 adapter, then surge protector, then your 50 amp cord to camper. This thing has saved my electronics so many times.

[@raven7068]

I Love RV Life Awesome thank you so much for your reply you helped me tremendously 👍😉

[@russell1265]

With the house plug 110 can you use 1 ac with a slow start

[@iLoveRVlife]

This video was made before I had an ActiveStart. You’re right, I can run an AC on a 15 amp circuit.

[@victorbishara8488]

thanks for the info, extending power cable regardless of quality will degrade the amperage you are getting and generate heat, better of extending hoses instead to reach hookup point

[@iLoveRVlife]

Maybe so if the extensions exceed the limits of the current capacity for gauge of the wire used. In my example, I have a 20 foot primary cable with a 15 foot extension. With the gauge wire used in both, we are well within the operating range with no degradation of current carrying capacity or heat generation.

[@MrKevinvoigt]

Hi Friend. I found a gently used 34750 protector. When testing just now the Time Delay When Flashing Light’s did their flashing and green Power On never appeared. Faulty unit or user error?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Nothing to set up on your end. Suspect it's the unit.

[@comodice905]

Dawg genius this will bee poppi n

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks

[@willrunrun3856]

Wonderful video, thanks for your sharing. Wish you always have the awesome travel. Look forward to your grandbabys next time:)

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks much for the kind comment. Jake, Jaymi Kate and Jilli Beth sneak in from time to time. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZXEm2eFfdaNrdU and kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWe4fKebhd5jqs0 and kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXaagXx9obpkpJY.

[@ontariotrailcameras6619]

Very informative as always Jerry thank you for posting this.

[@iLoveRVlife]

You bet.

[@normnilsson7208]

My question is when plugging a 50amp/120/240volt trailer plug into the 30amp/120volt pedestal plug using the adaptor are you only supplying half of you trailer's breaker panel with power by using only one phase? Or is there a shunt built into the adaptor so both phases of the trailer's panel gets power?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Norm, the adapter shares the single 30 amp circuit with both the L1 and L2 legs.

[@normnilsson7208]

I Love RV Life thank you

[@thundersnow64]

Hi, great video...I don't see a link to the plastic protection lock you had to keep your surge guard from being stolen. could you help me find that on Amazon?

[@iLoveRVlife]

You bet! amzn.to/2pefraA

[@ericdee6802]

Another well explained video Jerry, thank you for sharing your knowledge. Kind regards,Eric Dee.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks much. Glad I could share Eric.

[@Debmun]

This was a very good informative video. I'm new to the RV world and doing alot of research and ran across your video (God/Lord is good). I am planning to go RV fulltime and looking to purchase a 21ft travel trailer so with that being said should I get a 50 or 30 amp.?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks so much for the kind comment! If you have time, look at some of the other I Love RV Life videos. There are others on RV maintenance and travel you'll find helpful. On the 30/50 amp question, it all depends on current load. With these midsize campers in the 21 ft range you'll typically find as 30 amp. They require less cooling, so one AC. This size camper will also open a number of campground where larger units just won't fit. As our title implies, we love RV life. Hope your adventures are the same. Jerry...

[@robflanagan250]

Mr. Jerry I recently bought a in expensive sailboat, I have it at the marina and got shore power. I just wanted shore power for my portable ac. I ran an extension cord down the side of the boat into my sp adapter that goes from sp to 110 female… We had the ac on for the 1st time and end of the female 110- where my ac plugged in was a lil hot.... ?????

[@iLoveRVlife]

Image you’re overloading the extension cord. Not a good thing, could cause a fire. You didn’t mention size of AC or length of cord. Assuming something like a 9000 BTU marine AC, pulling less that 15 amps at 120 volts, you should be able to use a 10 gauge contractor style extension cord for a run under 50 feet. Shorter is better.

[@robflanagan250]

yes sir, its a 9000 btu regular ac.... kind that you can roll around the house and stick the exhaust out the window..... Wow don't need to kill myself with fire, thanks for the advice, im running over to home depot now and get a proper cord..... length is roughly 20 feet

[@iLoveRVlife]

You should be able to a good contractor grade 25 foot, 10 gauge extension cord at a reasonable price.

[@firewalker1446]

Very helpful, thorough video. Thx! 👍😊

[@iLoveRVlife]

So glad you found it helpful.

[@brentbares9015]

I have a 30 amp camper, if I come to a site with only 50 am power do I need a 50 amp surge protector down to a 30?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Use the 50 to 30 adapter and then plug in the 30 amp surge protector. Works perfect.

[@jimvollmer8254]

if the campsite only provides a 30 amp and you connect your 50 into 30 amp adapter are you then not using the 50 am surge guard since it wont go into rv parks outlet?

[@iLoveRVlife]

Still use the 50 amp surge protector. Just connect the surge protector to the 50 amp side of the 30 amp to 50 amp dog bone then the service cord from the protector to the RV. This still gives 50 amp protection on both the L1 and L2 power legs to the RV.

[@gaterwf16]

Great info, really enjoyed your video!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks John. Great to here you’re enjoying the videos.

[@MorbidVizions]

Good info, thanks for the video!

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks.

[@hannahbassett7541]

Hi Jerry, I have a vintage travel trailer with a 15 amp system and no accessories with big draws, only lights, a small fridge, and an outlet to charge personal electronics. Would the lower quality adapters heat up and blow fuses if I’m not drawing much juice? I already have some lower quality adapters and am trying to travel light, so wondering if dog bones are necessary in my case.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Hannah. Cords and adapters are impacted by current draw and length of the extension cord. I’d recommend a good quality, contractor’s grade 15 amp extension cord for your needs. A good 10 gauge is a bit pricey, but perfect for 25 feet or even 50 feet when you maybe driveway surfing. This will handle anything up to 15 amps. One other item to consider. Most campgrounds have a standard household style 15amp connection. On rare occasions, we have been to those that only offered a 30 amp. In those instances you’ll need the 30 to 15 amp connector. The others we discussed in the video are more for those who are only 30 or 50.

[@hannahbassett7541]

I Love RV Life Thanks Jerry, good to know. I have a solid extension cord and am set on 15 amp systems. I bought the small blue and purple (non- dog bone) adapters that Walmart sells (15 to 30 amp and 30 to 50 amp) because the first RV park I went to only had 30 amp hookups. It sounds like these adapters will do fine.

[@iLoveRVlife]

That’s perfect.

[@hannahbassett7541]

I Love RV Life Excellent, thanks for confirming.

[@jaytourtellot8228]

Hi Jerry, Thanks for doing this video many great ideas. I do have a question - Regarding the 30 amp to 50 amp adapter short yellow cord, If you use this how do you connect your surge protection ? or in this case do you not use it ? Thank you again.

[@iLoveRVlife]

Hi Jay. Glad I could share. Most definitely I use it. Plug the 30 amp plug into the power service. Then the surge protector into the 50 amp side of the adapter. Lastly, plug the RV power cord into the surge protector.

[@stevecastro22]

Very well done, thanks so much for sharing.....

[@iLoveRVlife]

Thanks much.