Why We SWITCHED From Ford 7.3L Gas to DIESEL

[@ZonaJim]

The Ford 6.7L diesel is a great powerhouse. But its biggest weakness is the CP4 fuel pump. If it fails, you can expect to pay around $12K - $14K for repairs. And an extended warranty will not typically cover the damage because Ford will blame poor quality fuel. If you plan on keeping the F250 for several years, I'd suggest you invest in a DCR fuel pump or disaster prevention kit from S&S Diesel. It's much less expensive than a CP4 destroying your fuel system. At the very least, make sure you add a good fuel additive such as Archoil or Hotshot every time you fuel up.

[@rickytecon5726]

I had a 'disaster prevention kit' put on my 2014 6.7 F-250. I also always change the fuel pumps every 10,000 miles. We've been towing with it going on 11 years. No problems. *Knocks on wood*. The DEF system has been a problem tough.

[@sarahann530]

​@@rickytecon5726 How much does a new fuel pump cost you every 10k miles ?

[@12055isgod]

Upper oil pan gaskets are pretty pricey too. Have to Drop the axle and transmission. Typically shortly after 100k mile warranty ends on our work trucks; $7-9k, but those are 450-550 chassis, so higher labor rates.

[@rickytecon5726]

@@sarahann530 I change the fuel filters every 10k. Not the fuel pump

[@sarahann530]

@@rickytecon5726 Then why did you post that you changed the fuel pump every 10k ?

[@glennbishop-smith9957]

I bought one of the last few 3/4 ton Chevys that came with the 8.1 liter gasser and an Allison 6-speed automatic, this was spring of 2007, we tow a 10,000lb 5th wheel. 150,000 miles now and no engine problems. We have looked at getting a new truck but there are too many stories like this one about the new big gas engines from all three manufacturers.

[@deltabravo1257]

The 8.1 with the Allison was the holy grail of GM truck gas engine combinations.

[@ReflectedMiles]

Ford does a lot of things differently, and after watching friends suffer the same kinds of issues as in this video plus repeating transmission problems, I have just stayed with my old GMC and plan to just make it force me into something else. Just crossing the 210k mark and have only had the usual high-mileage maintenance items from an oil-pressure sending unit to oxygen sensors.

[@Thesaltymedic36]

I had the 8.1 in my suburban with the 4L60 and it towed my trailer like a champ. Great engine, wish I had the Allison

[@ReflectedMiles]

@@Thesaltymedic36 Sure it wasn’t the 4L80? Awfully big power for the 60.

[@Thesaltymedic36]

@@ReflectedMiles yes you are correct. My 95 S10 has the that one 😂

[@TheBandit7613]

Living in the west with high mountains everywhere I go, I stuck with my diesel F350 FX4. It's important to ignore manufacturers new oil change specifications. I change the oil at 3000 miles and trans oil at 30,000 miles. Coolant at 50,000. Over 200,000 miles and zero issues. Still runs and looks like new. With the aux fuel tank holds about 140 gallons of fuel so I fill up where prices are good and that saves a few bucks.

[@fuzzywigglebutt]

If you are adding 140 gallons of diesel that is an additional 950+ pounds of payload. That would put a lot of people over weight (especially in an F250). But the travel distance sure would be nice. 🙂

[@1798iscomingback]

Ford put the godzilla on Motorhome chassis that are rated 30000lbs GCWR so towing a 15k lbs 5er is not the reason for the failure.

[@RVMiles]

Absolutely.

[@treeamigo8447]

They fail because of that oval logo in the grill

[@mmmd3429]

7.3l gasser is a beast

[@Kinginwar]

​@@treeamigo8447did you listen All new push rod have same issue

[@melissasmess2773]

I've had a gen 2 Cummins since 1999, no problems. It might be the best light truck diesel engine ever made.

[@goneawol7498]

….and you can tow, let me guess 12,000lbs?

[@preachers4135]

B series Cummins for the win! Pre-aftertreatment boondoggle also. 👍👍👍

[@smiley3303]

Great engine but the rest of the truck is not great. Tow ratings are pathetic back then.

[@betterwithrum]

Agreed, I’ve got a 3rd gen with 220k it’s running great

[@betterwithrum]

@@goneawol7498so what, I’d rather pull something light and have a truck that isn’t 90k and choking on its own exhaust.

[@harpandharley]

Nicely balanced story. I went with a Ram 2500 w/6.4 gasser because it worked for my situation perfectly though I would have gone for a diesel if I could afford it. Keep up the good work!

[@leestanphill1]

I had a 7.3 2022 F350 Lariat and went back to a ram 3500 dually after 2 years. No complaints on the 7.3, I loved driving it day to day and towing flat but really missed the torque and exhaust brake in the mountains.

[@tombrown8522]

6.7's had their issues '11 thru '14, then different issue '14-'16. We got a '17 with the 6.7 towing a 10K travel trailer and have been to South Dakota twice. Maine, Ohio, Colorado, Montana and North Dakota with nothing but regular maintenance. Thinking about upgrading the OEM fuel pump to an S&S pump, but with regular maintenance, feel pretty confident that the 6.7 is about bulletproof with regular oil and fuel filter changes. Great choice going with the 6.7! Plus diesel fuel has a chance to be MUCH cheaper if orange Godzilla takes the top spot in 2025! I know it was $2.05/gal in PA when we bought our truck, then quickly went to $4.99/gal in PA in early 2021. I'll let you guess the reason!

[@jimballuff3849]

Really???? trump never had any proof ( convicted criminal, convicted rapist, proven liar, proven cheater, proven adultery, never had a successful business, six bankruptcies. 5 kids by three different women. couldn't pass a background check for any job in this country! He's not allowed in 37 countries because of his criminal convictions and you're voting for him. ...SO SHOW US YOUR PROOF tom brown.....were still waiting.....

[@J.W.W.]

Gas prices were never cheaper than during trumps four years. Then came the ‘blues’ in 2020, and all heck broke loose with the prices of EVERYTHING. Looking forward to 2025’s corrections to almost everything!

[@AaronLeaich]

Pandemic!!!!!!

[@pattinewman5186]

My husband and I own a Dodge 2500 diesel and LOVE it. It pulls our 31 ft. 5th wheel so easily up and down the mountain passes with no problem. ❤

[@treeamigo8447]

Well this gentleman bought the Ford so his experience probably won't be as enthusiastic as yours.

[@Edgar-q5n]

What year is your Dodge 2500?

[@pattinewman5186]

​@Edgar-q5n it's a 2020

[@stuartstuart866]

I watched another KZbinr mechanic, and he talked about non OEM warranty companies replacing failed engines with junkyard replacements, that were clearly left out in the weather and in pretty rough shape. Factory (OEM) warranties supposedly give you a new engine.

[@calledtojourney]

Yep, only OEM warranties are worth the paper they're printed on.

[@dave4nier]

Great honest video. When I researched the 7.3 Godzilla, your original video came up, I subscribed right then and there. I have a 2020 F350 Lariat crew cab long bed with the 7.3 gasser and 3.73 axle ratio. I tow a 2022 Grand Design Reflection 295RL, and it weighs in at the CAT scale at about 11,500 lbs. (We are a bit overweight, but my solar and inverter setup puts the extra on the pin and the truck is still 800 lbs under for the payload...the trailer axles and tires are also within weight specs). I am happy with this setup. We usually travel several weeks at a time, last year we left Mass and traveled the east coast to Florida and back, we took 5 months. I tow at 60 mph, and lock out 9th & 10th gear. I get just about 9 mpg, and the truck runs down the highway at about 2k rpm. I think it is a great combination, we usually do about 325 miles between stops, and I can easily do that without having to stop and fill up with the trailer attached. On the truck alone, down south where the terrain is flatter, I get about 16 mpg. When I bought the truck, it had one previous owner who special ordered it and traded it in at 22,000 miles. He special ordered the exact same truck, the only difference was the color. I also bought the extended warranty so I am covered bumper to bumper to 100,000 miles with no deductible. I now have 43,000 miles on it and am happy, although I do watch for any sign of the lifter issue. I have been watching for a 2023 model but they are hard to find. The original owner of my truck just traded in his 2022 and ordered another brand new one with the same configuration. He tows snowmobiles and boats.

[@occasionalrv]

Well done with no bias. We own a 2021 F250 with the 7.3 gas engine. 50k miles about 60% of it is towing. We tow a 7k lb Airstream. So far the truck has been fantastic with no problems. We do have a 100k 84 month full power train extended warranty. Hopefully we never have to use it.

[@Mike-te1xx]

Great video. Have a 2024 F350 tremor lariet with 7.3 gasser. After owning 2 diesels from a different manufacturer and having multiple issues with both under warrenty, I wanted the 7.3. We don't tow heavy or often. Absolutely love the truck.

[@michaelfrussell]

Thanks for giving a very nuanced analysis on diesel vs. gas.

[@markreams3192]

The cam problem with the 7.3 is mostly with the de tuned work truck engines with high idle times. The engine has a variable pressure oil pump that doesn’t get enough oil to the cam at idle. It’s rare that the pickup engines have this problem. RAM just did a bad design on their engine. The cam placement is such that it doesn’t get enough lubrication. GM has cam and lifter issues as well.

[@patricksquires77]

I did not know I can shop GM/FORD extended warranty after & separate from dealer of vehicle purchase Learn something from this channel all the time!

[@calledtojourney]

Yes, the only extended warranties you may want to buy are directly from the manufacturer of your vehicle, NOT the dealer. Do some searching for feedback on dealer warranties, and you'll find lots of horror stories and lawsuits.

[@davidhillbrand2302]

Great perspective on the gas vs. diesel question.

[@glennbeadshaw727]

You're quite likely won't have any less problems with your diesel unless you keep on top of its maintenance like a saint and you'll enjoy the costs of that

[@scottgorman7166]

Yes sir, you nailed it!

[@markcowart6887]

Another good video Jason. I’m surprised being able to fuel up with the truckers didn’t make the plus list for a diesel truck. Less hassle than navigating gas pumps…

[@Badgeweefixstuff]

You do have a point 🛠️🇨🇦

[@joedonbaker1673]

Yes, great point. I tow with gas and have to look on google maps before pulling into a gas station to make sure I can maneuver around. Truck stops are usually okay... With diesel you can almost be assured that you'll fit.

[@gregormaitland5065]

Access to diesel is a double edge sword. Yes, on the interstate it can be easier (as there is usually more room at the diesel pumps. However I live in the northeast and we use our gas F350 to tow our horse trailer. What I’ve noticed is that a lot of the small town gas stations we go to in NH, VT and ME don’t have diesel.

[@chadmiller6487]

My 7.3 started having issues at 35k miles. I went with the gmc 6.6 gas. 70k and no issues. Also the difference in ride quality is insane.

[@bobnelson2828]

My buddy's 2024 3500 Chevy rides AWFUL. Not buying the ride thing.

[@chadmiller6487]

@bobnelson2828 it's insanely better than the f350. Especially when loaded. All 1 tons ride awful empty.

[@chadmiller6487]

@bobnelson2828 it's insanely better than the f350. Especially when loaded. All 1 tons ride awful empty.

[@timaz1066]

I’m so glad I own a 2000 Monaco dynasty that I full-time in. No diesel emission crap at all and it runs great.

[@briankreger433]

I think Ford is praying that the oil pressure increase programing will solve this issue. I think it is a bad design.

[@frugaldiyhandyguy9295]

Thanks for the info. I bought a F350 with the 6.2 gas and 6 speed trans. Was wishing that I bought the 7.3 with the 11 speed trans. Glad I didn't.

[@JBidensucks]

The 6.2 Gasser amd fords 6 speed watched to the 4.30 or whatever they were again gewrs was the GREATEST combo ever. Had one in 2016.

[@loudandclearmedia]

Unpopular opinion here: I bought the HO Deisel F250 Tremor and I rarely if ever tow, period. I do haul around daily a bunch of commercial photography and video gear, but that would've been easily accomplished with a light duty truck. So why did I buy it?...It's a big, heavy, safe vehicle for my family, it CAN haul or tow anything at any time, Diesels last longer and are higher resale, negating a lot of the increased cost of them when buying and owning it, and I just like driving it. I like the power, like the weight, like the exhaust brake. SO yeah, I bought a VERY expensive Deisel truck and don't tow....and I'm super good with that.

[@drz400sm5]

I tend to be hard on vehicles, so I too buy superdutys. They can take a beating a 150 won't.

[@JBidensucks]

Same here but a cummins . 😂 idgaf. Everything inown is a deisel

[@Lq32332]

You bought it because you fell for the marketing geared towards men. It’s no coincidence it has the highest profit margin for the manufacturer. They are simply Emotional Support Vehicles 😂

[@theoutdoordad7395]

I’m a Ford guy and have to admit Ford quality has become job last. Too many recalls, major power train failures. I’m done.

[@MannyWC]

Same with the Ram 2500s- cams and lifters go if idling too long; the oil doesn’t make it up to lube them.

[@JBidensucks]

Sources ????

[@mrmichaeltscott]

Oh no! That's one engine I was looking at until I heard about the valve train failures. I thought they'd straighten it out by now.

[@calledtojourney]

To be honest, it seems that the lifters going bad on the 7.3L is fairly rare, but when Ford is selling hundreds of thousands of these, even just 1% is a lot of vehicles. There are no truly 'bulletproof' engines or vehicles out there, and something catastrophic can happen to anything.

[@tractorfixrable]

My 7.3 had a lifter failure at 105,000 kms. 60,000 miles 🫤 I had extended warranty and got a new engine in 10 days. My question. The truck F550 is a 2021. So hopefully my engine is a 2024 with with updates. Can’t get an answer from anyone

[@rogergraves242]

After The warnnty runs out in the Deisel switch oil to Synthetic oil. So u don't have to Change oil as Often, &Longtivite is Longer, Less Maintenance.

[@leonajameson8902]

I have a 2006 F350 one ton. That motor is crap but it is still going strong and I still love it.

[@sherriweber7105]

Thank you Jason for saying why you bought diesel and not gas. I’m happy for you no matter what you buy! Im glad you got a truck that runs good and that you debatable to worry about getting the other one fixed. Do you have fifth wheel anymore? Or you just have the IBEX? I’m glad you bought something you wanted and liked. As long as you like it that’s all that counts. I like it too! Tell Abby hello! Have a great night and eeek. See you soon!

[@iamthenra1968]

I'm just amazed how everyone can afford a new full sized truck... and adding a diesel engine??? HOLY COW!!! You must be super rich... Back in 1995 I bought a brand new Chevy Silverado for $26k and I thought that was something... BTW I still drive it and tow with it still... Of course I would love a new truck, just can't afford it...

[@RVMiles]

Nope. Not super rich, but yeah, the price was a real kicker and we have had to adjust accordingly.

[@diggman]

Well, that sucks for the new guy buying the truck from the dealership. Wow😮

[@RVMiles]

Dealership is well aware of the problem. We disclosed everything.

[@RVMiles]

They're definitely going to need to replace that engine before selling it, so I'd say the new buyer is going to have a heck of a deal with a new engine on a used truck.

[@bobanddangsjourney]

Great video - we have the 2021 7.3 Tremor (I remember seeing when you. bought yours thinking its a twin). It has eaten 2 spark plug wires now (keep a spare after the first one failed, and that really helped us in the desert when the second one failed ;) . No issues with the lifters yet but we did get the 100k extended warranty mainly because it was a new engine. Fingers crossed. Hopefully the diesel is better to you. Thanks for making this one.

[@anthonyhitchings1051]

Decades ago my 327 V8 Chevy Impala sedan was backfiring , the problem was #7 cylinder - it turned out that the lifter had gone bad and flattened the relevant cam. So I removed the pushrods and ran the engine as a V7 - which worked great. I did change all the remaining 7 lifters - which had a lot of gummy varnish on them - so from then on I only used synthetic oil to reduce the possibility of sticking lifters in the future.

[@SK-qt1rm]

So, my Chevy 2500HD was first year model of diesels with DEF. I had multiple DEF issues starting at 35k miles. I always buy extended warranties from the manufacturer. 75k later I wanted to renew, one dealership said GMAC doesn’t do that anymore and wanted to sell me a different extended warranty. When you read the fine print, doesn’t cover DEF. I declined. I went to another towns Chevy dealership…”sure, no problem”. I got an extension for 108k miles from GMAC. Used it. Now I know more about DEF, last fix was about 20k ago. (154k). YT has good vids about changing Tank parts. Off the shelf warranties are a side hustle for some dealerships that have lots of exclusions. Side note: shortly after purchase, Chevy issued service bulletin extending DEF warranty to 100k or 10yrs.

[@markwiegard8384]

Use diesel fuel additives to keep the re-burn exhaust system clean. Makes a difference to include mileage, about 1 mile per gallon. Not that big but just for keep the exhaust reburn cycle clean is worth it.

[@RVMiles]

Any suggestions on brands? I use to run Diesel Kleen in our bus.

[@markwiegard8384]

@@RVMiles I think running any fuel additive to increase octane is a good idea anyway. Diesel is a low grade fuel that can spoil and absorb water. The fuel additive will mix with water and keep anything that might grow in you tank. Best of all, if you have to get fuel from a smaller gas station it helps with old diesel. Anything to keep the diesel mechanic away.

[@michaeljones7735]

It's good advice to never buy an engine the first couple years after it's initial introduction, always buy engines that have been out for a few years. Give the makers time to figure out the bugs.

[@michaellopour7409]

A lot of the problem with extended warranties is that a middle man prices in pure profit. Paying basically at cost for an extended warranty is really good insurance. Ford warranties are a good example, as long as you live in a state that allows you to purchase across state lines.

[@GK49245]

Thanks for the details. Good decisions. Had a Sierra 2500 diesel. Terrible truck, especially the engine. Tried to get a F350 gas. Terrible company and dealers. Agree on only a true manufacturer’s extended warranty. Hope this shift offers y’all a reliable, comfortable tow. We downsized from 30 ft Airstream Classic to fiberglass Escape 19 ft. Super duty trucks are off our list, thank goodness. Our current tow vehicle is a 2020 MB Sprinter 2500.

[@SK-qt1rm]

So, my Chevy 2500HD was first year model of diesels with DEF. I had multiple DEF issues starting at 35k miles. I always buy extended warranties from the manufacturer. 75k later I wanted to renew, one dealership said GMAC doesn’t do that anymore and wanted to sell me a different extended warranty. When you read the fine print, doesn’t cover DEF. I declined. I went to another towns Chevy dealership…”sure, no problem”. I got an extension for 108k miles from GMAC. Off the shelf warranties are a side hustle for some dealerships that have lots of exclusions. Side note: shortly after purchase, Chevy issued service bulletin extending DEF warranty to 100k or 10yrs.

[@treeamigo8447]

Extended warranties are highly profitable which is why they push them so hard. I played the fool twice, repairs denied, won't do it again.

[@keithmalmberg8395]

I run a 2000 F250 with the 7.3. It has 485k on it. It is a work horse, it us not a hit rod. It will tow the entire neighborhood, but it will take a bit longer. That is how a diesel is to be used. If you want the fastest thing around go gas, if you want to go slow and go for ever go diesel. And never skimp on maintenance!!

[@treeamigo8447]

Or just buy any cummis new or old and get both speed and torque. Those old 7.3 have less than 200hp brand new.

[@dennistausky379]

I'm looking at F250s now with godzilla motor thanks for info. But just need for 9k boat. I have 6.7powerstroke on my super C with F550. Just installed disaster prevention kit in the event of CP4 pump fail. It's a $12k repair when it does. Use deisel Lube additives. Check out SS Deisel for kit and improved pump. Install after warranty.

[@caldoito]

Excellent information! ive been in the process of looking for a new hd truck and I was set on gas. Then my interest was peaked after I watched a few diesel reviews. I went and drove a few and while I don't currently pull anything, I just want one. Even with all the concerns.

[@scottklein7684]

I had same engine ,Powerstroke is game changer.

[@coddiwomplecolster7329]

An excellent, well-rounded review.

[@TheAbrownie]

Jason congratulations on your truck. I had a 2015 6.7 and just bought a 2024 6.7 H/O love it. But please please use the diesel fuel additive. The CP4 fuel pump needs the extra lubrication. It also helps with the injectors. Enjoy your purchase.

[@RVMiles]

Any suggestion on an additive? I used to run Diesel Kleen in the bus.

[@ProudAmerican101]

@@RVMiles A lot of folks recommend hot shots. What were your oil change intervals and what oil did you use in your 7.3?

[@MSparks9509]

Archoil

[@situationaladventures]

@@RVMilesUsed hot shots for awhile and recently switched to Archoil system (1 small bottle every 5k and regular additive serving from larger bottle every fill up) and have seen longer intervals between regens AND has the lubricity for the CP4. PTT w/ Arod is a great channel to watch for 6.7 PS owners. KYD visited him for a DCR and intake upgrade.

[@hescominsoon]

there's a cp4 conversion that eliminates the cp4 problems...but that warranty wil protect you..after that do the conversion if yhou keep the truck past that..:)

[@airstreamer]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences with the two types of engines. - Michelle

[@RVMiles]

Thanks for watching!

[@christopherstimpson6540]

We still have the old 1994 Ford 460 CI or 7.5 liter engine. All these changes for just a few ounces of better fuel milage are a mess. The stop start on new engines is problematic as when the engine stops so does the oil pump.

[@patrickmclaughlin6013]

Might be interesting to see the maintenance log for that gasser. It seems like these new vehicles are very sensitive to maintenance, especially clean oil.

[@agtcovert]

Traded a 2022 Ram 3500 w/ Cummins SRW for a 2024 F350 Dually late last year. Custom ordered from Granger Ford in Iowa. We live in Indiana, so it wasn't too far a trip. Like you said, I'm not tied to a brand. I want something that tows well and pulls our fifth wheel, without making a travel day feel completely exhausting. The Ram had issues within 1000 miles; the supposedly bulletproof Aisin needed a new valve body. I got lucky, that was still during parts shortages but they found one for me in Texas and got it sent up. Then a power steering leak -- which when I took it in, the tech came out and tried opening the coolant reservoir to check the fluid level. Not exactly confidence inspiring, and they ended up replacing the entire system. Had a few other small issues, and I don't think it's specific to Ram, but getting parts just involved wait times that I felt were borderline unacceptable for an $80k truck. That said, yeah, the Cummins did great towing. Best exhaust brake out there, could slow 16k pounds almost without touching the brakes. The F350 though, totally different experience. So far, it's been great. Stable in a way I never expected (first dually). The 10 speed and Powerstroke are smooth and seamless. Climbed mountains in Tennessee and never dropped gears. Eats DEF like crazy when towing, about the only thing I don't like. I agree on the extended warranty, Granger had an amazing deal on it, and I paid cash for the warranty vs rolling it into the loan. Personal choice, but with everything on these trucks, it's a no-brainer IMO. Stuff is crazy expensive, and we do a few mods in the truck, I don't feel like doing it again for awhile, so I'm keeping it long as we can. The CP4...sigh. Might swap a DCR in at some point. Otherwise, knock on wood, the first 5-6k miles have been great. TLDR; my advice: stay up on oil changes. Don't pay attention to the computer. I changed the factory fill at 2k, it was gross looking. I plan to change every 5-6k. Given it's our tow pig and I only use it to run errands and kids (lol!) otherwise, the cost is what it is. Twice a year probably. I do it myself. Do your fuel filters around 10k. People are always split on fuel additives. I use Archoil or Hotshots. Another personal preference, but I'd suggest using it, at least every other fuel up. I have the Banks iDash (and Pedalmonster). I like the iDash because I can see more details, especially when towing. Keeping an eye on EGTs is worthwhile (and you can see when you're in ragen). With the CP4, I watch commanded vs actual fuel rail pressure. Glad you were able to get sorted during a trip, and hope you have 1000's of trouble free miles.

[@charlesperry1051]

I have a 2011 F250 XLT with a Job 2 6.7L diesel. So late 2011 model year. I bought it as a leftover when the 2012s were on the lot and got a good deal. It was my daily driver for 8 years and now it only does "truck things", like tow our 36 ft 5th wheel RV. It currently have 140k miles. Trouble free? sort of. The DPF was replaced by Ford at 100k miles because they broke a temperature sensor off when trying to replace it. A thermostat leak cost almost $1k to repair because nearly all of the top of the engine had to be removed to get to it. Most recent repair was a bad DEF level sensor which required replacing the DEF heater assembly. Nothing major so far. As for gas vs diesel: if I only ever planned to tow east of the Rockies, gas would be fine. However, I pulled a 15k lb trailer up Eisenhauer Pass at 65 mpg in 6th gear (only 6 speed in my truck) with NO ISSUE with this truck. You won't do that in a gasser. I like the diesel enough that I have a new F450 on order. I went with the standard, not high output, 6.7. The standard 6.7 will have more torque and hp than my current truck and I have never felt that I needed more power. The problem I have it my 5th wheel it technically too heavy (pin weight) for my F250.

[@NormRidg]

Diesel is the way to go for heavier tow RVs. Went from gas to diesel and so much easier drive. Use cruise most of time. Better up hill and down hill was much improved with exhaust break. Using less fuel when towing.

[@E_House]

We love our 7.3L and haven't had any issues with it. We thought it towed wonderfully in the Rockies. We don't tow heavy. MPG is abysmal though.

[@anthonypaulmannion7354]

Very insightful video. Thanks for sharing!

[@MontanaDirtRoads]

They should have just boosted the 6.2, that was a damn good and reliable engine right there.dodge has had issues with lifter since the hemi came out and they still haven't done anything to remedy the problem.

[@greghanson5864]

Have now, in three years, added 70,000 miles to our F250 6.7 diesel that pulls our 30’ Airstream effortlessly averaging 14ish mpg when pulling and 20 mpg when not. Was it a little on the expensive side? Yeah. Has it been a great vehicle for us? Absolutely! Good luck with yours!

[@deltabravo1257]

How does your truck get better MPG when towing compared to not towing?

[@greghanson5864]

@@deltabravo1257 Sorry for fat fingers. Should read 14ish when towing!

[@ozzielinkin]

I wonder why Ford switched from the V 10 motor to the V8. I have a 2011 class C with the V 10 Ford on a 1 ton chassis and cross my fingers. It has not missed a lick. Thanks for a great video . Good info to know .

[@jenniferchilton-kauffmann6280]

I find it unnerving that this optic came up as I sit stuck in Salt Lake City with a failed F150 engine that towed my little 4000 lb RV and am considering trading it in. 😳

[@lyleswavel320]

Change that 6.7 oil and filter every 5000 miles, change the fuel filter under the hood and the fuel filter under the truck in back every 15,000 miles, change the crank case valve, ccv, filter every 25,000 miles, 3000 miles before warranty goes out put CP4 fuel pump safely return equipment on it from s & s diesel or change CP4 pump to the DCR pump

[@brianvandy4002]

The problem is the EPA has forced all gas trucks to have to use methods that shut down some cylinders to improve fuel economy. All manufacturers are still trying to find a reliable way to do this. It's the fancy lifters required to do this that seem to be causing these issues the last 15 years or so. Hopefully they get this stuff figured out. I look at "reliability" ratings all the time and I find it funny that they all say the brand new trucks have the best reliability. How can they say that when all vehicles tend to be really reliable when they're only 1 or 2 years old.

[@alfie2744]

I’ve owned gas and diesel trucks and several 5th wheels. I towed around 10k with a gasser hd 15 and had the rear upped to 4:10. Pulled fine!!!! Except gas mileage with or WO the Rv. It drank gas upppppp. I’ve had 18k, 12k, and 16k with a 3/4 Chevy and 1 ton dually ram. It pulls and brakes soooooooo much better in blazing heat of south with AC on…. I work on my own to save money and a turbo repair etc… is more expensive but this is pulling a house on wheels not a load of lumber from Lowe’s to your house. If u r going to pull heavy and travel around the US - u will be glad u bought a diesel. Btw my ram exhaust brake is VERY effective. My Chevy at that time didn’t have one.

[@joedonbaker1673]

Great video Jason. I think you nailed it. And you're right ... nobody has an ugly baby. (With regards to what they bought). Safe travels and enjoy the new truck. 👍

[@RVMiles]

Many thanks and safe travels to you as well.

[@toddincabo]

👍 Good job, nice truck. 2006 View Class C here, Mercede's last true non emissions engine, the "Million Mile Engine". Looking to find out!

[@TheAbrownie]

I run the Motorcraft Cetan boost. I get it from a Ford dealer. My thought is they designed the engine I’ll use their product.

[@kellyburdette6108]

I have had both with the big fifth wheel i have a diesel now and will never go back to a gas truck

[@markwiegard8384]

I have a 2017 Nissan Titan Cummings diesel 5.0 and tow a 12,000 GD reflection 337. It’s like there isn’t anything behind you, unless, you’re pushing a wind head on. Higher rpm’s and a lower gear yet I still get 10 miles to the gallon towing (26 gallon tank). The Cummins is expected to go 400,000 miles plus. Yes oil and fuel filter changes are expensive but compared to a new engine ($26,000 installed at the dealership) oil changes are cheap. I change it every 6000 miles (synthetic oil) instead of the suggested 10,000 miles. My third year pulling with this truck. That said, I average about 4000 miles a year camping. Not a lot compared to full timers. So far so good 🤞

[@ron9381]

Keep the fuel clean I have a 2018 had a injection pump failure and the debris circulated and required replacement of all fuel components it was under warranty, but I had to take it to a second dealer to get taken care of.

[@smiley3303]

You traded off your Ford with issues and got another Ford? The payload ratings are very dumb on 2500 diesel. Even if legally you would be over the diesel will out tow that gas engine all day long. It will stop better using the exhaust brake too. That rating stuff will never make sense as reality is diesel towing is the best no matter the rating. I don’t think you can ever save by getting a diesel but the experience is best.

[@ADONAIsays-so]

Nice rig and great talk. Thanks

[@RVMiles]

Thanks for watching!

[@jdawg1835]

I love my 2015, 6.7 Powerstroke, Super Duty!

[@Badgeweefixstuff]

Well well you opened a hornets nest lol. First of all they all have issues. So you can play the game so it looks good. We got 12 dodge 2500hd 5.7. We tow 8500 lbs. I had to do the lifters and cam twice now. But it is still way under the $12,000 for the diesel option. This is my view mine only. No comparison to the gas is way quieter. Cost of oil changes is 1/4 cost of diesel. Everything you said I agree. It don’t matter what you buy it will do the job for you. The only thing I do have issue with is Rv people and there 1/2 ton towable I don’t agree with anything over 7000 lbs should be 3/4 ton. This is my take we got 220,000 m 340,000 k on truck and trailer and it’s still pretty solid. Thanks awesome video. I am sure the keyboard junkies will be out lol. Awesome video. 🛠️🇨🇦🛠️🇨🇦

[@davidrose8612]

Absolutely inexcusable; if Ford 'got a bad batch of lifters' they needed to immediately effect a total recall of all affected engines regardless of age or miles and be an upstanding company. Chevy 454 and Ford 460 gassers were known to run hundreds of thousands of miles with not much more than routine maintenance. Current American quality continues to spiral downward. How your trade-in was handled was good news and I hope the new diesel proves to be reliable.

[@athensdawgs81]

Ford did get a batch of bad lifters on the early 7.3's. It's fixed now. I glad you got that extended warranty on the diesel. It's not if but when you have a $10K+ repair on the diesel. But speaking of lifters. It does seem to be an issue across the industry. Ford, GM, Chrysler are all having lifter issues on various models. If caught early replacing cam and lifters is cheap compared to any diesel repair.

[@clintstinytrailerconversio5560]

I would never own a diesel again. I have owned mostly 1500 150 gas trucks, but thought I would go diesel in 2012 with a Ram. This was the last year of the non-DEF engine... diesels last forever right? I drove it for about 50K miles and it was in a dealership over and over. I was getting codes something like, downstream o2 stuck on high, etc. They replaced just about everything except any actual controller. It wasn't stuck on high, what I thought was happening was it was in regen because the decent MPG would drop to around 8, it was burning massive amounts of fuel for no apparent reason. They never solved the problem, even though I think they escalated it to Chrysler. Never heard from them. Because it was a 2WD I didn't like it anyway; that it would easily get stuck on wet grass... seriously. So, I went with a F250 gasser. I bought a Norstar truck camper and it was just about perfect. Again, something I didn't like was the height of steps getting in (I was around 70yo at the time) and it returned about 16MPG with the camper off. So, I downsized to an F150 - XLT highest trim level with some additional features, like towing and the pro trailer thing that I have never used. It has the awesome 3.5EB. I actually upgraded way up in torque and MPG is now 27-29 solo. I now have a 6500# converted cargo trailer / towhauler and a camper shell (Harker EDC), essentially a hardtop tent... that I can park in my garage) when I go by myself and it returns 19-21 with the EDC... 11-13 with EDC and the towhauler. This combination is perfect for me. My truck has 63K miles... funny thing.. the dealer that I bought it from continues to send me "deals", and this probably fake offer is, for less than $14K and I know it would easily sell for $22 - $25K. But, it isn't for sale. I really like the power, the Ruby Red paint, the 20" wheels and just about everything about it...

[@HighCountryRambler]

Why I still have my 2000 F350 7.3 diesel 6sp manual I bought brand new. Have a bullet proof workhorse and no car payments.

[@dustinryan9671]

I have been looking for the 7.3 manual. I have a 06 6.6 Duramax, love the truck but I want that old 7.3 as well. Keep holding on to it, that manual saves so much transmission work.

[@HighCountryRambler]

@@dustinryan9671 I learned the 99 manual trans had a overheating problem, in 00 they added a trans oil cooler up front. I had to special order the ZF6 trans back when it was uncommon to have to order a new truck. LOL Good luck, they're out there but a bit pricey.

[@JohnSmith-ev1sm]

Talk about jumping from the frying pan into the fire! Smart money these days is buying the only engine in a heavy duty truck without issues, the GM 6.6 + 10 speed. The diesels all have emissions related problems, not "if", but "when" they happen. Ram and Ford's gassers is rolling the dice on lifter/cams; many are fine, but many aren't. The 6.6 is bullet proof. I say that as a Ram 1500 owner, the only heavy duty I'd even consider is the gas 6.6 and with your trailer or even a smaller 5w it would have been perfect for your usage.

[@jmad9294]

😂😂😂

[@barrylenoble6705]

Jonajim has it right Fassfuel pump on all fords a must will get three miles more Save up for a for a new transmission

[@arlenboyer-v9v]

your saying it was lifters and you didnt have it checked out my 2021 7.3 did that twice and all it was spark plug wires had them replace all wires with updated one truck is f550 weighs 19500 lbs runs all day also have 2024 f350 7.3 gas pull gooseneck with equipment 20k plus gets the job done i will not buy other diesel all the diesels repairs i have had on my diesels, if your pickup picks up bad fuel could cost 12k-15k and they will void your warranty and everyone is saying diesels last longer look how many are going down i lost 2 of mine just out of warranty 20k plus to get other engine, not including all expensive maintenance fuel filters, oil changes,urea, fuel additives and my auto insurance was higher on the diesels, but good luck with yours.

[@johndennison6093]

Where did you buy your truck in Florida and were you happy with them.?

[@youngblood2]

The Ford FU50, is exactly as it sounds! Ford has had so many blunders, that I simply don't trust them anymore. My motto is "never run a diesel when a gasser will do!".

[@jsEMCsquared]

My 1978 454 with a turbo 500 transmission ,dually duel everything, batts gas . My best ever truck!

[@goneawol7498]

…and you’re legally rated to tow let me guess 12,000lbs. Same as today’s half ton trucks.

[@jsEMCsquared]

@goneawol7498 my truck had grvw 10,000 lbs. It's towing capacity was 16 000 I think. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks

[@nunyobizkneez]

so you went from a lifter/cam $10-12k problem to a $12-14k fuel pump problem? Not to mention the 10spd issues out there also? Good luck.

[@RichardSevcech-hz3xu]

I have 6.2 gas f250 tow 40' fifth wheel tow 90k no problem save money fuel

[@Lastcall115]

I believe the Ford gas engine has a 60k mile warranty not 36k miles but yea that sucks

[@flyovercounty1427]

I know a Ford 3.5 Ecoboost owner who experienced excessive oil consumption well out of warranty. Ford replaced the engine. Did you disclose the issue with your previous truck during the trade in deal?

[@BajaGirl302]

I will only go diesel when having to pull anything! The engines last longer, and yes they can cost more to fix, well worth the investment! I love my diesel. 💗

[@RVMiles]

Fair enough!

[@jjones5424]

Good info, thanks.

[@RVMiles]

Glad it was helpful!

[@hpkntnw]

6:11 incorrect ford power train is 5 years 60,000 miles.

[@Oldrush]

Have you heard anything about the new axles on these trucks? Apparently the front has been lightened up and both are having gearing issues that are failing. I was leaning ford but because of this axle and gear issue I’m thinking GM diesel instead.

[@gsteve9129]

What was the difference in your fuel mileage between the 7.3 gasser and the 6.7 diesel?

[@roadglide1142]

I had a 2021 F-350 7.3 10 speed. It was a good truck until I lost reverse twice . I traded the truck in and went back to Ram 2500’s I’m on my 3rd one . Never as much as a hiccup from and of them! I plow snow pull heavy trailers and work the crap outta them too! I feel like I avoided a bullet with that 7.3 getting rid of it before it screwed me over ! Btw that 10 speed shifted like crap from the get go! The ZF 8 speed in the Ram shifts like a dream compared to that crappy Ford Transmission! I’ll never go back to a crappy cheaply built overpriced Ford POS ever again! I’ll never want a HD truck with an independent front suspension like a Toyota Camry and still uses wax to coat their frames so GM is Not an option for me . I only buy Tradesman level trucks as they are just tools for me to get a job done. I have a Lexus SUV as my daily driver which is a real luxury vehicle.

[@JimByford]

how often where you changing oil i change mine every 5 k in my 7.3 gas

[@JeffChurchill-k9i]

I disagree , the diesel is far superior to the gas , I towed a 7200 lb travel trailer with a half ton ford 5.0 liter and it sucked , so uncomfortable , felt unstable and hated the high RPM noise. Traded it for a Silverado 2500 HD With the Duramax Diesel , OMG ITS AWESOME !! I don’t think gas engines are meant for heavy towing over long distances , they can’t take it. IMO

[@jimm2442]

You exchanged one POS for another. "Deep research" CP4. Deep research "death wobble" and upper oil pan gasket leaking (spoiler alert, there is much more). How can you say all HD gas V8's have lifter problems? The 6.0 and 6.6 and now extinct 8.1 Chevrolet HD Gassers do not have lifter problems. No mention of GM (far and away the best product) at all...... I am a retired mechanic with 40 years on the job. Fords are fantastic if you are in the business but complete garbage for the poor uneducated, uninformed consumer. If you think Ford will cover the CP4 under warranty, research that. I suppose you can justify a poor decision by using it as click bait to gain YT views. The content you provide is usually very good and appreciated, thank you for that.

[@jmad9294]

😂😂😂

[@PeeWeeHenson]

AND I WAS TOWING A JAYCO EAGLE HT THAT GROSSES OUT AT 10K

[@dontwantnospam]

We went from the 6.7L diesel to the 7.3L gasser. Both trucks are 2020. Either truck has been my everyday driver. With the diesel, I was paying for oil (13 qts of T-6) and fuel filter changes every 5K plus DEF, where with with the gasser I change every 8k (8qts), I'm going to change the fuel filter now at 60K, just to change. I really liked the diesel towing, but the cost of maintaining the diesel and being retired, the costs were getting out of hand. I do have a 150K warranty on the gasser and honestly belief they will be replacing the engine before I get to the end of the warranty. We've towed with both in the mountains out west, the "flats" of the midwest, and down here where we live in the southeast. The biggest think we miss is everything that came with the Lariat diesel to a gasser XLT. I have spoken with my dealer and told him I'd be interest in a lightly used 23 Lariat or King Ranch (massage seats) 7.3L However I can also move into a 24 Lariat gasser with what I want for just about the same as a used 23 or 24 Lariat. We'll see what happens. As for the CP-4 issue, if you have concerns, look at the SPS replacement. I did have the concern of a pump failure, but at the time I was considering the move to a gasser, the pump was unavailable and the gasser showed up.

[@mtower235]

They ALL have their issues no matter the size or type. No one seems to be able to get it right

[@charlesruble9384]

So what did they say about your poorly running F350? Did you tell them about your trouble with the engine?

[@patricksquires77]

@@charlesruble9384 Yes per a prior vid. Essentially my guess is the dealer service shop knew they could buy and get a warranty work exception covered on it and the team sales team could work and get a sale and pay above bit above on trade in as they were covered on warranty shop work hours. Importantly the RV Miles team could get a solution that worked for them.

[@scottmichaels12]

If towing heavy with gasoline engines was actually as good as towing with diesel engines, there would be no need for diesel engines. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean that you SHOULD do something. I CAN mow my 40 acres on a regular basis with my zero turn lawn mower, but should I and how long is that lawn mower going to last me?

[@buckmeredith1720]

That is a very poor analogy. The difference between gas and diesel towing is between 10 and 20 percent. The difference in your analogy was more than 400 percent.