Rwanda refusals

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Professor Tim Wilson

Professor Tim Wilson

23 күн бұрын

And how Keir Starmer may yet be able to balance the books!

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@buntyjoy1800
@buntyjoy1800 21 күн бұрын
Rwanda is not wrong...the Tories were.
@jeffsimon9594
@jeffsimon9594 21 күн бұрын
Fair point well made, BuntyJoyless
@stephenfarthing3819
@stephenfarthing3819 21 күн бұрын
@@buntyjoy1800 Gentlepersons I have to disagree with both of you. And @jeffsimon9594 - Rwanda was - indeed - the wrong solution, and whilst I agree that the Conservatives were wrong - I can't completely accept the fair point. There was another option. Professor Tim has espoused often that the processing of the asylum application backlog is part of the way forward - and at the same measure to host a full international conference on the intention to update or amend the 1951 Refugee Act. And I have agreed with this! It was the sensible thing to do so and the reasonable thing to do as well! I would say however! That the wear down in the Home Office started just after Cameron stood down as PM and Theresa May became PM ! After having been in the Home Office for 8 years - surely morale there was at an all time low and after she assumed the office of PM ! It struggled with the existing backlog under other Home Secretaries - the two final straws were Patel and Braverman. Sajiv Javid found the home office in such a mess between these two, that there was very little he could do to redress the balance and my fellow Bristolian would have found it as unfortunate and daunting. Being the sensible person he was - it would be almost impossible to do something about it, even if he wanted to. - and Johnson and - later - Truss had made it all the worse! The Current Government and Home Secretary will have a lot of work to do, to get it back into proper functioning condition. Which is why, elsewhere! I said there's two priorities for Starmer's government. One: The NHS and Two: The Home Office. The third priority remains dealing with the problems of Cost of Living! The two priorities I have listed remains the two main ones. Though the third unlisted one, remains a point of vitality! The damage done to the Home Office is a critical concern equal to that of the NHS! Both of these remain the highest concern. I hope that helps to explain some of it. To you both. It's something that I have observed and take note of having to be dealt with.
@isabellesmith5253
@isabellesmith5253 21 күн бұрын
Let s hope labour goes after the fraudsters.....
@frankiehood7155
@frankiehood7155 21 күн бұрын
It’s amazing how Britain can build in Rwanda but can’t build home’s here ??
@DropdudeJohn
@DropdudeJohn 21 күн бұрын
Well we do build here, but we have mass immigration, so its hard to keep up with it and just where should we build and for whom.
@lizdocherty3067
@lizdocherty3067 21 күн бұрын
@@DropdudeJohn of course if the Tories had followed the rules and processed the asylum claims, we wouldn't be in this state, those who were granted asylum could be working and contributing, while those who failed would have been returned. But having all these unprocessed immigrants were a Tory policy gave them someone to blame for all the problems, and gave the voters someone to be angry at
@BrokenHill56
@BrokenHill56 21 күн бұрын
The Tories are responsible for the Rwanda mess - no one else. Labour will spend years cleaning up Tory incompetence and corruption across multiple policy areas. We hope the Tories will never darken the corridors of power ever again.
@CupOfSweetTea
@CupOfSweetTea 21 күн бұрын
I don't understand how money was sent before it became legal, and knowing the Tories wouldn't be in power to execute the scheme. An example of how money is not that tight. It can't be if we can just throw away hundreds of millions.
@Kevin-mx1vi
@Kevin-mx1vi 21 күн бұрын
Eerrrmmm, because bribes are usually paid "up front" ?
@lizdocherty3067
@lizdocherty3067 21 күн бұрын
Have they ever found the volunteer immigrant who was given £3000 and went to Rwanda and disappeared.
@steveturner6770
@steveturner6770 21 күн бұрын
he made his way back to the uk on a small boat a month ago 😄
@jsd8981
@jsd8981 21 күн бұрын
Nope !!!
@shanghaichica
@shanghaichica 21 күн бұрын
@@steveturner6770with a new identity
@lizdocherty3067
@lizdocherty3067 21 күн бұрын
@@steveturner6770 😂😂😂
@Ricimer671
@Ricimer671 21 күн бұрын
Of course the money is nonrefundable, half is in the pockets of Rwandan officials and the rest is in the pockets of Braverman, Sunak and Patel!
@Turnipstalk
@Turnipstalk 21 күн бұрын
But the Supreme Court ruled the plan illegal, so surely as per the prosecution of Trump, Braverman can be prosecuted?
@Kevin-mx1vi
@Kevin-mx1vi 21 күн бұрын
The government should absolutely pursue the 1.4 billion wasted on faulty PPE - no commercial business would dream of accepting and paying for such goods, so why should the taxpayer ?
@chrysalis4126
@chrysalis4126 21 күн бұрын
If the builders only earn £1.80 a day how on earth did we end up paying millions?
@Turnipstalk
@Turnipstalk 21 күн бұрын
If it costs LVMH $57 to make a bag, how does it come to sell for $5600?
@AnthonyBrown12324
@AnthonyBrown12324 21 күн бұрын
If you buy an appliance from a retailer you are given a price and told what the fees are before you buy . Or you get a breakdown for an extension for a house say . Why is there no break down for these contracts ? Who is being paid what ? there needs to be transparency in these deals . This is a huge some of money for nothing . Clearly it hasn't been costed and why pay all this money up front . There should be accountability for ministers wasting tax payers money .
@priscillaroberts7945
@priscillaroberts7945 21 күн бұрын
Peanuts compared to the 37 billion squandered on test and trace that made no difference and the unusable ppe. Fancy a multi million pound yacht anyone?
@neilattuk
@neilattuk 21 күн бұрын
Perhaps we could send Braverman, Badenoch et al to Rwanda as many of those MPs will not now require housing in London?
@padraigohooligan8363
@padraigohooligan8363 21 күн бұрын
The last data I knew of was that Albania was the fourth-poorest country in Europe. It has the facilities to house only a few hundred asylum seekers/migrants. The idea of sending any person from the UK should be abandoned immediately and permanently. Any monies spent by Sunak and Braverman is a sunk cost and should be forgotten about.
@user-wj7mi4zi3x
@user-wj7mi4zi3x 21 күн бұрын
Agree prof we want our money back.
@lessparks8553
@lessparks8553 21 күн бұрын
Tories get suckered
@SirKeefyKeef
@SirKeefyKeef 21 күн бұрын
Indeed, this has been known for a few months now, Rwanda will not give a penny back, quite rightly so I say, What’s that old Roman Law? ‘’If you are stupid enough to be taken in then you deserve all you get’’? Something along those lines 🤪😂 What a waste of money huh? And there is plenty more the tories spraffed everywhere except in the UK.
@user-em3vl6li5w
@user-em3vl6li5w 21 күн бұрын
It’s us that have been suckered. What a debacle, only the Tories could get us into this mess. What a waste of money.
@simongiles9749
@simongiles9749 20 күн бұрын
The whole deal has more than a whiff of a 491 scam about it. I wonder if it started when Cruella responded to a grammatically broken email from a "Nigerian prince"?
@MyTv-
@MyTv- 21 күн бұрын
Surely Rishi will make good the difference personally. After all he was responsible!
@mallamal5578
@mallamal5578 21 күн бұрын
Sue the tories!
@SirKeefyKeef
@SirKeefyKeef 21 күн бұрын
Britain. Being the 6th richest country on the planet…. Right!???? Let’s believe that lie for a moment… There is plenty Cash bubbling around Britain, but it is all stored over in the Cayman’s… THATS where Starmer needs to go and get some.
@alejandrayalanbowman367
@alejandrayalanbowman367 21 күн бұрын
Perhaps the accommodation prepared in Rwanda should be used to house the descendants of immigrants to the UK such as Patel, Braverman, Cleverly, et al.
@paulhammond6978
@paulhammond6978 21 күн бұрын
Yeah - the Tories made the dumb deal with Rwanda in the first place. It's not really up to Rwanda to refund the money seeing as how they entered the agreement. I don't really know enough about the Rwandan government to criticise it fairly, but taking the money offered by a bunch of suckers in the last government who wanted an expensive gimmick to show people they were "doing something" is on the previous government, you can't blame the Rwandan government for taking advantage.
@richardpawlowski4540
@richardpawlowski4540 21 күн бұрын
Surely a person who cannot be returned to their country of origin is a legit asylum seeker or am I missing something?
@pauljarvis4328
@pauljarvis4328 21 күн бұрын
What happened to the housing built over there that 70% was sold off? Who got the money from that and why did sunak push this scheme to other countries just before announcing the election. Because it was failed to start with and why did rwanda say it would give the money back in jan/feb. (but now not).
@SeanTube2099
@SeanTube2099 21 күн бұрын
What a waste of money by the tories.
@stevemcgowen
@stevemcgowen 21 күн бұрын
Rwanda spent the money. Look at Kigali. Rwanda isn’t a Muslim nation. They won’t be taking people from Pakistan or Afghanistan.
@MrDavey2010
@MrDavey2010 20 күн бұрын
Rwanda deal ought never to have happened in the first place. There should have been a mechanism in the agreement to repay unused money. On every level, negligence!
@sarahwinfield3989
@sarahwinfield3989 21 күн бұрын
You know as well as I that no effort will be made to retrieve tha money we have paid Rwanda. The UK is like a bank for the rest of the world where it can simply print more and more money to put in the pockets of the selected few. Examples include the post office, the water companies and other utility companies, local councils, HS2, the French government, the BBC, privatised rail companies, etc.etc.
@stephenfarthing3819
@stephenfarthing3819 21 күн бұрын
The simple solution is to seek liability from the main problem themselves. And the point is that those who put up the idea should be taken to court and made to pay damages - in relation to this unworkable notion! That should apply to those in office in government who supported it!
@gaius68
@gaius68 21 күн бұрын
Starmer won't send anyone to Rwanda for two reasons: Supreme court ruling that it is unsafe as a country & it would be politically naive to do so having labeled the plan as "dead".
@raypickles537
@raypickles537 21 күн бұрын
Braverman loves the place, so she and her tory friends should be sent there, then it will be good value for money
@californiadreamin8423
@californiadreamin8423 21 күн бұрын
The Labour government need to write this money off as foreign aid and move on.
@thomasmoore1499
@thomasmoore1499 21 күн бұрын
Not a surprise, not a marriage, so lucky to get out with our shirt on our back, best forgotten now.
@bookie5667
@bookie5667 20 күн бұрын
On April 9th 2024 the Torygraph reported that the UK government has sold 160 of the houses it had built in Rwanda to the local population. I'm not sure what remains, and the number of refugees that can now be housed. However, I suspect any sane government wanting to distance itself from this inhumane policy would avoid any solution involving Rwanda because it has negative connotations.
@integralevideo
@integralevideo 21 күн бұрын
small beer compared to the Tory-friend covid dividend
@user-em3vl6li5w
@user-em3vl6li5w 21 күн бұрын
Why should they refund it. The loss is down to Braverman. We just need to accept it, but hopefully we will learn from this debacle. Surely something can be salvaged and the local population can be supported. Money needs to be invested in poor countries, then maybe they won’t need to risk their lives in travelling to inhospitable countries such as ours.
@user-sd3ik9rt6d
@user-sd3ik9rt6d 21 күн бұрын
Why should they give it back? I wouldn't and I'm sure nobody reading this would.
@hughcaskey9542
@hughcaskey9542 19 күн бұрын
I see the boats haven’t stopped yet after all the bullshit
@leecooper8589
@leecooper8589 21 күн бұрын
So the Party of business and economic competence couldn't manage to write a contract that protected the British Tax payer against such (highly likely) eventualities as the contract not complying with UK Law, not being fit for purpose or there being a change in Government policy when the UK Government changed?
@Wiggins773
@Wiggins773 21 күн бұрын
better to lose money than morality
@lessparks8553
@lessparks8553 21 күн бұрын
You can get the money back through billing the Tories
@A_Really_Nice_Guy
@A_Really_Nice_Guy 21 күн бұрын
Tories lost both.
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx 21 күн бұрын
Not when the money was spent for an immoral purpose and in an immoral way, by immoral people.
@nickmiller76
@nickmiller76 19 күн бұрын
Classic sanctimonious lefty wordplay.
@mn7024
@mn7024 19 сағат бұрын
Issue is, was the agreement that remaining change should be returned to UK?
@sfactory8253
@sfactory8253 21 күн бұрын
I'm not sure Rwanda will be getting much aid from the UK in future .
@brendanpells912
@brendanpells912 21 күн бұрын
Building workers earning £1-80/day? Hmmm. I bet Richard Tice is wondering how he could get them to come over here and work on his developments. Is this what Farage meant when he said there should be no workers visas except for those that are absolutely essential?
@DropdudeJohn
@DropdudeJohn 21 күн бұрын
We have had wage depression in the UK ever since we had mas uncontrolled immigration from being in the EU, Tice already knows this, its something you seem unable to get your head around though
@brendanpells912
@brendanpells912 21 күн бұрын
@@DropdudeJohn No we haven't, EU workers are just better motivated than British workers brought up in a benefits culture. What Tice didn't like is that EU workers weren't cheap enough. You couldn't discriminate against them nor drive down their wages by threatening to take away their work visas.
@johngallacher8847
@johngallacher8847 21 күн бұрын
Who actually owns thew buildings put up in Rwanda?
@chrysalis4126
@chrysalis4126 21 күн бұрын
You would think us seeing as we paid for them to be built.
@michelleneeds4165
@michelleneeds4165 21 күн бұрын
Why cant Rwanda just use the accommodation to house their own homeless or use it as a hospital/sheltered accommodation for elderly or sick people? Have it as a gift, write it off as aide?
@joshuaparrott2458
@joshuaparrott2458 21 күн бұрын
Keep the money. Next!
@johnslavin2270
@johnslavin2270 21 күн бұрын
Suggest offer the Rwandan builders visas for our construction boom here. Also suggest the Rwandan accomodation is used for an exchange student scheme
@stevemcgowen
@stevemcgowen 21 күн бұрын
Why would they want to come to the UK? Kigali is in a construction boom.
@johnslavin2270
@johnslavin2270 21 күн бұрын
Indeed. Who would want to come here? I think this country is in a mess and unless we change very soon it is going to get messier
@regwedde
@regwedde 20 күн бұрын
A drop in the ocean compared with the future money Labour will spend supporting ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who will arrive once Labour remove all deterrents
@virginiahall8822
@virginiahall8822 21 күн бұрын
Hello professor Tim Wilson. Hope you are well. It been my experience once people get your money. You don't see it anymore.
@jsd8981
@jsd8981 21 күн бұрын
No it was sunak that made the terms on the wrander deals, he is the one left it the dept behind and nobody else, the only ones that made in anything out of it was the wrander Goverment.the deterent of the wrander deal was by name only. It never stopped the boats coming over, pluse how many did get sent to wrander, what one person and he wasent an original boat refugee he had been here waiting to be deported lo g before the illeagal immigrant boat issue came into play, so i. Essence they only sent one one persond to wrander and as far as i know he has dissapeared i.e nobody knows where he is I.e he took the money and bolted, so how can abybody in their right mind say that the wrander bill was working...!!!...
@jponeill2151
@jponeill2151 21 күн бұрын
Pretty sure Rwanda was offering to give the money back when the tories were struggling to get it legally enacted. Interesting change of tune. I need sources. Are you watching Geebeebies again?
@annishilcock4587
@annishilcock4587 21 күн бұрын
Tories debt!
@songscoops4205
@songscoops4205 21 күн бұрын
No plan... no problem.. now where do they live,work and be part of your community..🤔
@gunner678
@gunner678 21 күн бұрын
We, Europe in particular should strike a deal with Greece as part of their massive international debt repayment strategy, to construct proper immigration centres on the numerous now vacant islands that constitute Greek territory.
@stevemcgowen
@stevemcgowen 21 күн бұрын
Greeks don’t want immigrants.
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx 21 күн бұрын
The Greek people are repaying their debt with the blood, sweat, and tears of austerity. As Austerity is estimated to have contributed to over 120,000 premature deaths in a country far wealthier than Greece, any such suggestion is not only distasteful, but frankly deeply cynical and shortsighted. You see, Briton is a debtor to the European Union too. Britain is still repaying the sums due under the TCA, which it hasn't yet fully implented according to the agreement and WTO rules. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
@user-cg6ve7ri9n
@user-cg6ve7ri9n 19 күн бұрын
Your demented friends aren’t in power. Get over it and make comments on the future.
@malcolm8564
@malcolm8564 21 күн бұрын
If Rwanda is determined to be safe then all the illegal migrants can be sent there. No need to process and separate.
@stevemcgowen
@stevemcgowen 21 күн бұрын
It’s not legal to dump migrants in other countries.
@A_Really_Nice_Guy
@A_Really_Nice_Guy 21 күн бұрын
It’s not safe.
@stevemcgowen
@stevemcgowen 21 күн бұрын
@@A_Really_Nice_Guycrime statistics on sites like Numbeo say otherwise.
@malcolm8564
@malcolm8564 21 күн бұрын
@@stevemcgowen they're dumping themselves on other countries.
@stevemcgowen
@stevemcgowen 21 күн бұрын
@@malcolm8564what?Rwanda is the nicest, safest country in Africa. Just because some emigrate from Rwanda doesn’t prove otherwise. People leave their home countries for any number of reasons.
@A_Really_Nice_Guy
@A_Really_Nice_Guy 21 күн бұрын
Dear professor, why are you advocating that migrants should still be sent there?
@T0NYD1CK
@T0NYD1CK 21 күн бұрын
Maybe if they ever audited the Ukraine spend they might find a mere £240 million hiding somewhere?
@stevemcgowen
@stevemcgowen 21 күн бұрын
+3 kopeks.
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