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“[The Conservative Party] destroyed the country and we’ve got to get on with repairing it”
RMT Secretary-general Mick Lynch, Peter Mandelson and Conservative Home founder Tim Montgomerie discuss the potential Labour victory at the BBC Newscast All-Nighter
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@colinnewlands743
@colinnewlands743 3 ай бұрын
What a cheek Mandelson calling any left wing MP sectarianism when he was instrumental in forcing the Labour party to right of centre. A party established to work on behalf of ordinary working people who were being exploited and forced to work for terrible pay and conditions with no protection.
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 3 ай бұрын
That was 124 years ago.
@maxpowerii7368
@maxpowerii7368 3 ай бұрын
@@lestrem11funny sounds like he’s describing modern Britain to me.
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 3 ай бұрын
@@maxpowerii7368 Maybe in your gutter but not my leafy crescent, child.😂
@RichardMathews-gv7lb
@RichardMathews-gv7lb 3 ай бұрын
@@maxpowerii7368👏
@robintuppen9413
@robintuppen9413 2 ай бұрын
@@lestrem11 But the Tories were taking us back down that same road. Had you not noticed?
@tednindo6761
@tednindo6761 3 ай бұрын
mick lynch speaks a lot of truth
@Millennial1993
@Millennial1993 3 ай бұрын
Speaks the truth yet coming from someone that earns minimum £84000 yearly that's the top 10% of uk earners I recon he is out of touch from ordinary people
@bobdrooples
@bobdrooples 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, he's very happy and he'll be the first looking for handouts.
@Paul-ws8lh
@Paul-ws8lh 3 ай бұрын
@@Millennial1993£84k for someone in his position in the transport industry is actually a low salary.
@Millennial1993
@Millennial1993 3 ай бұрын
@Paul-ws8lh he reportedly earns £120000 owns a 1 million property in London but the actual thing is he is out of touch like the politicians themselves I really don't see his veiw represent people who can't even afford thier utility bills yet someone who earns around £5000 a month after taxes can talk that's all
@nicks4934
@nicks4934 3 ай бұрын
Rubbish. He supports Brexit fantasy
@neilgraves5069
@neilgraves5069 3 ай бұрын
Love Mr Lynch , takes no nonsense from the media and the torys
@deanjones6149
@deanjones6149 3 ай бұрын
Corbyn was treated despicably by Starmer and the Labour Party. Mandelson is a horrid, sarcastic and rude excuse of a man. Nick Lynch is a top man, of and for the people.
@eightiesmusic1984
@eightiesmusic1984 3 ай бұрын
Mick Lynch.
@deanjones6149
@deanjones6149 3 ай бұрын
@@eightiesmusic1984 I do apologise for my unforgivable error/spellchecker. It's always nice to have a grammar Nazi on hand 👏👏👏
@eightiesmusic1984
@eightiesmusic1984 3 ай бұрын
@@deanjones6149 Might as well have typed Nick Cynch. Terminally stupid.
@danielwickwar5434
@danielwickwar5434 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson is all those things, as well as a corrupt grifter who was thrown out of Govt multiple times. How he's given any sort of platform is astounding, let alone applause.
@johnchristmas7522
@johnchristmas7522 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson like Blair is now a multi-millionaire, something not right there! Labour Party? As to Corbyn, well he doesn't represent who the Labour Party now represent and its not the working class. Now we must be prepared for the other cheek of the rotten arse.
@mtb5778
@mtb5778 3 ай бұрын
Corbyn is an intelligent, decent man and I would vote for him whatever party he was with.
@denzel270
@denzel270 3 ай бұрын
He is friends with Hamas and Hezbollah
@ColinGarner-h1t
@ColinGarner-h1t 3 ай бұрын
WHAT ????????
@antlerman7644
@antlerman7644 3 ай бұрын
Yeah a pro brexit nutjob who lost the election. He needed to go.
@carlossaraiva8213
@carlossaraiva8213 3 ай бұрын
Those are the words of a cult.
@carlossaraiva8213
@carlossaraiva8213 3 ай бұрын
Also, Corbyn is a brexiteer, least people forget it.
@mickc6700
@mickc6700 2 ай бұрын
Peter Mandelson accusing anybody of being "nasty" is breath-taking hypocrisy.
@rosstheboss2615
@rosstheboss2615 3 ай бұрын
Crazy that Mick Lynch allowed Mandleson to get away with calling him “sectarian”.
@briankerrison8504
@briankerrison8504 3 ай бұрын
Well said Mick.. not just speaking..but educating our electorate.. 👍👍😎
@georgegeorge4921
@georgegeorge4921 3 ай бұрын
Bullshit
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 3 ай бұрын
Mick Lynch voted for Brexit, and advised his members to do the same. {:o:O:}
@briankerrison8504
@briankerrison8504 3 ай бұрын
@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 yet he was all for EEC.. he didn’t agree that the eu was to become one sovereign nation.. which has popped up before.. & no doubt happens amongst the other 27 remaining nations..hence it hasn’t happened.. 🤔🤔😎
@davidpryle3935
@davidpryle3935 3 ай бұрын
@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095Naturally enough Mick Lynch and the RMT voted for Brexit, I wouldn’t have expected anything else. The working class socialist tradition that they come from have always been opposed to Britain’s membership of the neoliberal EU.
@Leeds71
@Leeds71 3 ай бұрын
If Mick Lynch truly cared he wouldn't shepherd his people into voting for a worse clone of the tories. The guy is a tool and if can't see what Labour actually are, is dumber than I think he is. Another paid puppet gaslighting the masses,
@shorelineboy
@shorelineboy 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson what a slimy creep , well said mick lynch
@mickcarpenter2963
@mickcarpenter2963 3 ай бұрын
I could only watch so match of Mandelson’s arrogance, superior attitude and rudeness
@jake751
@jake751 3 ай бұрын
Yes but Jeremy corbyn had the last laugh without lifting a finger or biting back. Jeremy wining Islington North is like a steak hammered into the prince of darkness heart 😊❤
@kirkhunter146
@kirkhunter146 3 ай бұрын
Labours answer to Mogg
@annenunney9907
@annenunney9907 3 ай бұрын
I dislike mandleson he is evil
@moldyolddough1
@moldyolddough1 3 ай бұрын
@@mickcarpenter2963 Friend of Jeffrey Epstein, says it all!
@edeledeledel5490
@edeledeledel5490 3 ай бұрын
@@jake751 Jeremy does a lot of wining; it a permanent state of mind with him, being aggrieved. He spent many years sniping from the sidelines when he was a backbencher, but when he was leader, he didn't like it happening to him in the least.
@HJJSL-bl8kk
@HJJSL-bl8kk 3 ай бұрын
I worked for several years in Corbyn's constituency, although I lived on the other side of the Thames. One thing his constituents said a lot was what a very good MP he is, sorting out serious problems for individuals. Mandelson saying he got in because people thought he was standing for the Labour Party is patronising nonsense. Just like the Tories who said the 1945 Labour landslide happened because the ignorant electorate thought they were voting for Churchill.
@DesmoDreams
@DesmoDreams 3 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely. God he's odious!
@sinead3345
@sinead3345 3 ай бұрын
It literally would have indicated on the ballot that he wasn't Labour - it is pretty insulting to his constituency actually (I don't live in England for context).
@Stewart2240
@Stewart2240 3 ай бұрын
Just as likely they voted Labour thinking Jeremy Corbyn was still the Labour candidate. Mandelson shows HIS "sectarianism", but that's ok, of course. Who was PM when Mandelson lost his Cabinet position in 2010 ? It wasn't Jeremy Corbyn.
@nicenac
@nicenac 2 ай бұрын
If Corbyn was so unpopular how was it he got 40% share of the vote back in 2017 and Starmer only got a few percentage more at most share of the vote compared to the disastrous 2019 result for Labour that Mandelson is banging on about. Starmer aren't that popular is he!!! We need reform of the voting system right now!!! He is nothing as popular as Tony Blair at least he got nearly 44% of the vote in 1997
@HJJSL-bl8kk
@HJJSL-bl8kk 2 ай бұрын
Being a really respected MP in Islington is not the same as winning a General Election. I used to be really pro-PR but imagine Farridge and his bigot brigade under PR. What a horror show that would be. I now think tactical voting is the way to go. Tactical voting is what worked this time. It wasn't so much that Labour won, the Tories lost massively. Look how well the Lib Dems did. A lot of the credit should go to Carol Vorderman and that website she set up. You just put in your postcode and it suggested the party that was best placed to beat the Tories. My sister was in a safe Tory constituency and she's always voted Labour. This time she voted Lib Dem and it worked.
@supernube6659
@supernube6659 3 ай бұрын
would rather mandelson answer questions about his relationship with epstien than hear his snide drivel against corbyn
@Musika1321
@Musika1321 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, but why even give the creep air time? Surely there was someone better.
@davethomas30
@davethomas30 3 ай бұрын
what a creep Mandelson is
@g.pmoore4293
@g.pmoore4293 3 ай бұрын
Totally
@SwatantraNandanwar
@SwatantraNandanwar 3 ай бұрын
Yesterday's Man
@PeterGriffinfromFortnite
@PeterGriffinfromFortnite 3 ай бұрын
@@EvanMann7 That was his best friend Jeffery Epstein
@MikeL-7
@MikeL-7 3 ай бұрын
An unaccountable creep.
@edeledeledel5490
@edeledeledel5490 3 ай бұрын
Yes, I suppose you think he is much worse than Dominic Cummings... politicians use fixers and Machiavellian characters to help them behind the scenes. They are all pretty bad by definition; it's sort of their job description.
@briandelaney9710
@briandelaney9710 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson has been a cancer in the Labour Party ever since he started working for Kinnock His grandfather, Herbert Morrison was the same. Always undermining Attlee. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree
@southboundaustral
@southboundaustral 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson is one who received handouts from elites. He was bought and sold out. " He was undone on that occasion by the revelation that he had bought a fashionable home in Notting Hill, with the help of an interest-free £373,000 loan from his millionaire ministerial colleague Geoffrey Robinson. When Mr Mandelson filled in a Britannia Building Society mortgage form to buy the house in 1996 he had failed to mention the loan. Nor did it appear on his entry in the Commons Register of Interests....newspaper accusations that he helped the Indian billionaire Srichand Hinduja to secure a British passport in return for a £1 million donation to help fund the Dome's Faith Zone. When the story broke Mr Mandelson said an inquiry about Mr Hinduja's passport application had been dealt with by his Private Secretary, not him personally. It soon became apparent from Home Office records that Mr Mandelson had personally telephoned Home Office Minister Mike O'Brien."
@stephenroche5107
@stephenroche5107 2 ай бұрын
Spot on
@kevanbodsworth9868
@kevanbodsworth9868 2 ай бұрын
Profesional moles in the undermining of a social Britain
@robbiecoleuk
@robbiecoleuk 2 ай бұрын
Just an absolute snake of a human being, absolute poison.
@thriddoctor
@thriddoctor 2 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. He sounds like a tory.
@andrewmaccallum2367
@andrewmaccallum2367 3 ай бұрын
Go on yerself Mick 👏👏👏 Solidarity ✊
@gerrabath
@gerrabath 3 ай бұрын
Mick Lynch is brilliant.
@chaipup7045
@chaipup7045 3 ай бұрын
Hilarious that the Tories now want PR when their party is destroyed.
@czerwonadupa9547
@czerwonadupa9547 3 ай бұрын
Starmer has also championed PR but that was when he was in opposition & we know his principles are as changeable as the weather. Also Ed Davey was in favour. But he's the man who has refused to apologise for hiring very expensive lawyers to go after the Postmasters when he was in Nick Clegg's coalition government. Another politician with fluid principles.
@SwatantraNandanwar
@SwatantraNandanwar 3 ай бұрын
@@chaipup7045 they say one thing and do another! Lower taxes, my foot, govt is getting more and more complicated. No way can you have smaller Govt.
@clarecollins2547
@clarecollins2547 3 ай бұрын
It is hilarious.
@Number9s
@Number9s 3 ай бұрын
@@czerwonadupa9547 "Starmer’s official spokesperson has now revealed that the Labour Leader has a “long-standing view against proportional representation”. When asked to clarify if the Labour leader was against PR he said “yes”." It's a not priority. Cleaning the Augean stables is top of the list and that won't happen overnight.
@henryburton6529
@henryburton6529 3 ай бұрын
Tories dont - Reform Nazis want it. Sorry too late. Labour would be insane to do PR now.
@cerealtiller
@cerealtiller 3 ай бұрын
Jeremy Corbyn has dignity and Humility ,something the Tories are unable to possess.
@ShopFloorMonkey
@ShopFloorMonkey 3 ай бұрын
Or Mandy, for that matter!
@gerryburntwood9617
@gerryburntwood9617 3 ай бұрын
Nor the likes of the vile lying two faced Starmer
@craigdonald551
@craigdonald551 3 ай бұрын
@@ShopFloorMonkeyHave you ever seen his reflection?
@frozenice61
@frozenice61 3 ай бұрын
yes he does and young people need to know that there is honesty and decency and there vote is not wasted
@Cherrytune386
@Cherrytune386 3 ай бұрын
So has Starmer.
@annenunney9907
@annenunney9907 3 ай бұрын
What a piece of work Mandleson is he did everything he could do to get rid of Jeremy and so did his party and now he is blaming Jeremy for the defeat he is a total disgrace I voted green this time
@Setinmywaysalways
@Setinmywaysalways 3 ай бұрын
So followed his advice.
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 3 ай бұрын
I think under Jeremy's leadership the percentage of the vote Labour got was not much different to this time. It's just that more Tory voters are disaffected now and stayed at home and there's probably been more tactical voting. Also Reform were not in the picture in Jeremy's time. Mandleson is a snake.
@annenunney9907
@annenunney9907 3 ай бұрын
@@Setinmywaysalwayswho’s advise
@annenunney9907
@annenunney9907 2 ай бұрын
@@SetinmywaysalwaysI did not need him to tell me not to vote Labour to me they are not Labour
@ErikaBhowmick
@ErikaBhowmick 3 ай бұрын
I pray For The Laber Party And Uk it Will Be Very Hard Work Good Luck ❤❤👍👍
@terryaltherr2481
@terryaltherr2481 3 ай бұрын
Mick Lynch is truly among the best Brits out there and it ain't even close.
@markhickey9539
@markhickey9539 2 ай бұрын
Agree completely. Along with the likes of Bob Geldof, Andy and Owen Farrell, Roy Keane, Harry Kane, John Lennon and countless others who share Irish roots.
@steveturner609
@steveturner609 3 ай бұрын
There’s an air of sustained creepiness and menace about Mandelson…..what a Snake!!
@dowlingthebakuninbot7691
@dowlingthebakuninbot7691 3 ай бұрын
Mandy is a grubby character.
@mikewilson8513
@mikewilson8513 3 ай бұрын
So you dont fancy him then ?
@omblackwell1183
@omblackwell1183 3 ай бұрын
@@mikewilson8513Who would? He has to get his vibrator pissed first.
@thecrimsondragon9744
@thecrimsondragon9744 2 ай бұрын
​@@mikewilson8513 Clearly, you do...
@mikewilson8513
@mikewilson8513 2 ай бұрын
@@thecrimsondragon9744 Not my type ducky !
@brianvidler1201
@brianvidler1201 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson should get out of it along with Blair. They are the last pair this country needs.
@lesleylamy
@lesleylamy 3 ай бұрын
Blair had a good time he did a lot for this country it went down when brown became pm
@danksheev66
@danksheev66 3 ай бұрын
About time too.
@MrCalls1
@MrCalls1 3 ай бұрын
Truly breathtaking to say “thank god we’re rid of this sectarianism” in response to Mick Lynch’s request for a contest in Islington to choose the local candidate. Local democracy is sectarianism now. Smh
@DesmoDreams
@DesmoDreams 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, Mandy's got more projection than a multiplex cinema 😫
@ShopFloorMonkey
@ShopFloorMonkey 3 ай бұрын
So much for that 'Broad Church', eh?
@Ashok410
@Ashok410 3 ай бұрын
Labour are a disgrace now, shame on starmer and the Blairites
@Luton-Mick
@Luton-Mick 3 ай бұрын
Lynch was partial to a spot of sectarianism as a low key IRA supporter.
@motosnape
@motosnape 3 ай бұрын
Yet, some muppets in the audience seem to like what he said. Don't underestimate the British public🤔
@shacklock01
@shacklock01 3 ай бұрын
Mick to lead the real labour party!!!
@sunseeker9581
@sunseeker9581 3 ай бұрын
Dont play with my dreams
@sirrodneyffing1
@sirrodneyffing1 3 ай бұрын
yes..down the Toilet.
@shacklock01
@shacklock01 3 ай бұрын
@@sirrodneyffing1 if you dont own labour and are, like the rest of us, selling your labour you are a fool to hold this position. And if you are a useless landlord class then couldent care less about your opinion
@sirrodneyffing1
@sirrodneyffing1 3 ай бұрын
​@@shacklock01 OK. So, you're think 'Labour'..a man doing a hard days work alone, creates wealth do you? If that's what you think, you're the most gullible, dangerous, self destructive (to yourself and your society) fool in the world. ‘Wealth’, ‘Money’ ‘Affluence’..for everybody in any society is created by adding value to basic commodities then exchanging it for someone else's Labour, OR INGENUITY; which requires money, money that has been saved by someone, and not spent on something else. It’s all about the allocation or resources and the division of Labour; that concept as a revolution in human evolution in the Iron Age, but of course Karl Marx thought he knew better than the thousands of generations, and billions of people that that came before him; just like, it would seem, you.
@iangascoigne8231
@iangascoigne8231 3 ай бұрын
@@shacklock01It would help if you could spell and write a coherent comment.
@andybyrne50
@andybyrne50 3 ай бұрын
Lynch is a winner. My late father who was a railwayman and secretary to his branch of the NUR , would have loved him . Top man !
@adriftinaboat3452
@adriftinaboat3452 3 ай бұрын
The late John Smith couldn’t stand Mandy-he banished him to the opposition back benches-he saw through him.
@johndaarteest
@johndaarteest 2 ай бұрын
Always wondered if they unalived John Smith.
@pennywise556
@pennywise556 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson is a creep
@danprice447
@danprice447 3 ай бұрын
..cough .. Epstein list.. cough .. JPMorgan listed them as having a close relationship... cough cough
@robbdavies7749
@robbdavies7749 3 ай бұрын
He's a Lizard
@mick947
@mick947 3 ай бұрын
He really is a foul human being…if he is human.
@allmodcons2274
@allmodcons2274 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, he repulses me
@BillOdyssey
@BillOdyssey 3 ай бұрын
There's a lovely pic in the FT of them together with a great big cake
@TiffanyLaVoom
@TiffanyLaVoom 3 ай бұрын
Mendelson is a muppet, has always been one. Let's not forget his own myriad of scandals. The man is as contemptible as any Tory
@PaulaXism
@PaulaXism 3 ай бұрын
He is a tory.. Like his pal Blair.. tory through and through.
@Stewart2240
@Stewart2240 3 ай бұрын
One positive is it seems that the monstrous Rwanda flights have been grounded. More taxpayers £millions the Tories have squandered.
@mick947
@mick947 3 ай бұрын
Is Mandelson actually a human being or just pure slime. That was a rhetorical question.
@Google_Does_Evil_Now
@Google_Does_Evil_Now 3 ай бұрын
He's disgusting. Does anyone trust him?
@Cronhour
@Cronhour 2 ай бұрын
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now the rich trust him to do everything to protect their interests.
@The_shadowcraft
@The_shadowcraft 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson is despicable.
@JohnnieE1961
@JohnnieE1961 3 ай бұрын
He's such a snide, word twisting wa.... and when someone said "I'm not voting for you, I'm labour." I'll bet they knew exactly who they were talking to.
@Lyraorganum
@Lyraorganum 3 ай бұрын
Creepy, evil and brilliant.
@anthonyclegg1511
@anthonyclegg1511 3 ай бұрын
Yes,, he isn't nice like Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock and Truss is he.
@rubstroll1
@rubstroll1 3 ай бұрын
Manicured, tanned , Cartier mofo.
@mobsiesixsixsix9785
@mobsiesixsixsix9785 3 ай бұрын
He's a born liar. He criticises others but attacks people who criticise people he supports. A very creepy character.
@FGCmtg
@FGCmtg 3 ай бұрын
Dear god that Mandelson chap is awful
@kirkhunter146
@kirkhunter146 3 ай бұрын
It irritates me that they keep digging him up and inviting his opinion. He had his fame, blew it as a lousy minister. Just shut up Mandy
@dianefraser-bell8686
@dianefraser-bell8686 2 ай бұрын
Yeas for good reason! A friend of Jeffrey Epstein says it all.
@morrrisjones5827
@morrrisjones5827 3 ай бұрын
Why is Mandelson there ...what a snake , next thing Blair will be back, a bad sign
@hughwilson2219
@hughwilson2219 2 ай бұрын
Yes, Tim even sounds much better
@clive373
@clive373 3 ай бұрын
Peter Mandelson is vile.
@christopherwhittaker2620
@christopherwhittaker2620 3 ай бұрын
Truly Total narcissist as well
@progpuss
@progpuss 3 ай бұрын
I hate him as much as Reece mogg
@jiff4132
@jiff4132 2 ай бұрын
And he was on Epsteins friend list??
@hughwilson2219
@hughwilson2219 2 ай бұрын
a 'red' Tory....
@howmanybeansmakefive
@howmanybeansmakefive 3 ай бұрын
Why do they keep wheeling out Peter Mandelsohn, and who gave him the power of excommunication for the whole labour movement?
@maxpowerii7368
@maxpowerii7368 3 ай бұрын
should be excommunicated himself for his and Blair’s Tory ‘reforms’ of Labour Party
@graemeedgar7654
@graemeedgar7654 3 ай бұрын
come to where the working people live, spot on.
@hamza1947
@hamza1947 3 ай бұрын
Funny the host doesnt mention at 1:55 that Corbyn won more votes in 2017 and 2019 than Starmer in 2024. Why mention Blair, not Corbyn...when the latter is far more recent and relevant
@Cheebasonic
@Cheebasonic 3 ай бұрын
Exactly - that’s the biggest take from this result ..they got a smaller share than 2017/19 but ended with a huge majority ! Also little mention of Starmer coming in with negative ratings before he starts !
@therealrobertbirchall
@therealrobertbirchall 3 ай бұрын
The likes of Mandrax never mention the Brexshit parties' role in splitting the Labour vote in 2019 and the deal Fartage did with the clown.
@mrstephenpariah
@mrstephenpariah 3 ай бұрын
It wasn't known when this was filmed.
@Kate_Short-For-Bob
@Kate_Short-For-Bob 3 ай бұрын
The difference is Starmer won. Corbyn gave the Tories a whopping majority with which they wrecked what was left of the country. If Corbyn had got off the fence on Brexit and been clear from the start about where he stood, maybe we wouldn't have had such a mess now
@brunolondinese5857
@brunolondinese5857 3 ай бұрын
They didn't yet have the result from which to mention the biggest take​@@Cheebasonic
@brockit79
@brockit79 3 ай бұрын
Mick Lynch 👏👏👏👏...speaks the truth re Jeremy.
@Badger-w8u
@Badger-w8u 2 ай бұрын
Tories DID destroy our country ! I look forward to Mick getting involved with Labour to rebuild England .
@peterrowe-prvvideo1853
@peterrowe-prvvideo1853 2 ай бұрын
an unelected evil union traitor lining his own pocket - having a say in a marxist govt? why is this piece of xxxx even on this show? he didn't stand for election - but typical socialist BBC gives this horrible man a voice.
@fleshboundtobone
@fleshboundtobone 3 ай бұрын
Mick Lynch gets it. People aren't thick, they know how FPTP works. You can't just imagine the vote share would be the same under another system. And you ARE voting for your local MP first and foremost.
@ShopFloorMonkey
@ShopFloorMonkey 3 ай бұрын
The problem is it's anti-democratic. You end up voting against a party, and not for one. It's an excercise in negativity and the party that benefits claims a mandate they didn't win. This election is a great example of that - Labour didn't win, the Tories simply lost and we got Starmer as a Consolation Prize PM.
@tonyb9735
@tonyb9735 3 ай бұрын
@@ShopFloorMonkey I agree, it is anti-democratic. It is ridiculous that Reform Ltd, no matter how much I personally despise them, won 14% of the vote but have only 4 seats. You are wrong, though, Labour did win this election. People like me tactically voted for him.
@nelty0987654321
@nelty0987654321 3 ай бұрын
@@ShopFloorMonkey🤦‍♂️
@Mark-kh1ny
@Mark-kh1ny 3 ай бұрын
It’s widely acknowledged it’s a flawed system that blocks out smaller voices and is responsible for the two party system. Surprise, surprise, Mick doesn’t want to get rid of it because he backs one of two parties that benefit from it. There’s less than 50 countries that use it in the world and most of those were colonised by Britain at some point. Most of Europe sussed it years ago. And Mick’s ‘no government’ statement is completely false. There are more coalitions due to it, if that’s what he means, but that’s exactly why it’s fairer. Parties who are voted for, should have a say, representative to the number of votes they received. Time to move on.
@Mark-kh1ny
@Mark-kh1ny 3 ай бұрын
@@ShopFloorMonkeycompletely agree. Labour’s vote share only increased by under 2% whilst the Tories tanked by 20%. It’s very much a case of the Tories being voted out, not Labour being voted in.
@joeg46Highlands
@joeg46Highlands 3 ай бұрын
Mick Lynch makes an important point: a better electoral system can produce a worse government. Ultimately it is the quality of the government that affects the quality of life of the electorate.
@direnova6284
@direnova6284 3 ай бұрын
I would say "Mandelson is a prick" but it seems the world and his dog have already said it.
@francescahamilton6856
@francescahamilton6856 3 ай бұрын
Mike Lynch is highly intelligent & excellent at everything he does. If there were more people like him in important roles, the LEFT would garner a lot more respect.
@frankgreen1663
@frankgreen1663 3 ай бұрын
Could listen to Mick Lynch all night
@corneliussmiff2773
@corneliussmiff2773 3 ай бұрын
You could listen to him being a two faced snake?
@frankgreen1663
@frankgreen1663 3 ай бұрын
​@@corneliussmiff2773he got JC elected on Thurs....paid for lots....yer talking psh
@corneliussmiff2773
@corneliussmiff2773 3 ай бұрын
@@frankgreen1663He's a two faced coward. He openly supported Brexit, which the Tories then weaponised to get elected again in 2019. The man is a hypocrite and was party to so much damage caused to this country. He may not have directly supported them, but his decisions certainly contributed to it.
@boota1979
@boota1979 2 ай бұрын
@frankgreen1663 Same here.
@davidharness1507
@davidharness1507 3 ай бұрын
Peter vampire Mandleson cannot let Corbyn go!
@peterwilson5528
@peterwilson5528 3 ай бұрын
Voted for Jeremy Corbyn because voters thought he was the Labour candidate. What a lot of tosh!
@Cronhour
@Cronhour 2 ай бұрын
if anything there's been reports of the opposite where people vote Labour thinking it was Corbyn. Mandelson is a liar and he's exactly what he accused the tory of being, a petty, vindictive, and vicious self centred individual. Red Tories are Tories
@dubbelhelix
@dubbelhelix 2 ай бұрын
Mandelson is a creep! Talking complete garbage!
@DougieL
@DougieL 2 ай бұрын
Brand Corbyn is why Jezza was voted in, pure and simple.
@FLudlow1
@FLudlow1 2 ай бұрын
A really miserable claim to make, by Mandelson, and then he is ready to jump in and lecture Lynch right afterward.
@dubbelhelix
@dubbelhelix 2 ай бұрын
@@FLudlow1 The guy is a moron, arrogant to the core. Stating that many individuals thought Jeremy was still representing Labour. Jeremy had hundreds of individuals supporting him, going door to door, dismantling the Labour vote. Corbyn is an example of a politician firmly representing his constituency, society, and not himself. His pedigree puts most UK politicians to shame. He would have received my vote with no hesitation! Bravo!
@danksheev66
@danksheev66 3 ай бұрын
Glad to see Lynch standing up to Mandelson's sneer!
@havingalook2
@havingalook2 3 ай бұрын
There is something in the water - raw sewage thanks to the Conservatives - he got that one right.
@mtb5778
@mtb5778 3 ай бұрын
Mick Lynch should be the prime minister. He is a straight talker. No BS.
@bereal6590
@bereal6590 3 ай бұрын
He is best at what he does and a great voice for unions and the people of the uk. Unfortunately he got it wrong on brexit, but I do really like the guy
@david-pb4bi
@david-pb4bi 3 ай бұрын
I am staunch Labour but think Lynch is just self serving.
@davidpryle3935
@davidpryle3935 3 ай бұрын
The working class socialist tradition that Mick Lynch comes from has always been opposed to the neoliberal EU.
@Hat101
@Hat101 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson is a stain
@LIJXFVKINBVY
@LIJXFVKINBVY 3 ай бұрын
Wow. After 14 years you have just realised that. I remember when tory thatcher destroyed the country in the 80's.
@gordonhamilton727
@gordonhamilton727 3 ай бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@joeg46Highlands
@joeg46Highlands 3 ай бұрын
I gave up and left in 86!
@denzel270
@denzel270 3 ай бұрын
Labour destroyed it in the 70's.
@bereal6590
@bereal6590 3 ай бұрын
Yup, remember that pile of 💩 with thatcher and this last 14 years have been worse!
@Kate_Short-For-Bob
@Kate_Short-For-Bob 3 ай бұрын
Yep. We still suffer from many of the things that she inflicted on the country. - decimated the manufacturing base (where wealth had been created for a century) - wrecked communities - mass unemployment - pushed a selfish 'me me me sod everyone else' ethos - sold off the national assets for a pittance amd left the markets to themselves (why the water, banking, and energy are still a mess )
@rrbh
@rrbh 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson's arrogance is oozing off that sofa like slurry.
@apostatereacts
@apostatereacts 2 ай бұрын
I met Mick Lynch in Liverpool a couple of years ago. Really down-to-earth, decent human being.
@Hercules_the_Great
@Hercules_the_Great 3 ай бұрын
Didn't recognise Mandelson until reading the comments, I was wondering who this odious Labour creep was. Can't believe he is allowed onto public broadcasting. Always good to hear Mick Lynch's thoughts though.
@abody499
@abody499 3 ай бұрын
this programme was full of that. the bbc is unfortunately in the hands of its corporate masters by proxy
@JuliaHartshorn
@JuliaHartshorn 3 ай бұрын
I have aot of time for Mick Lynch. I hope he is right in putting his faith in this Labour party in government, for the British people. 😊
@pitbing
@pitbing 3 ай бұрын
Mick's members are his priority. The British people come second.
@rachelsullivan1277
@rachelsullivan1277 3 ай бұрын
Labour equals work I hope they take care of the working class people
@corneliussmiff2773
@corneliussmiff2773 3 ай бұрын
Mick Lynch is a snake and one of those partly responsible for the absolute circus we have had since 2016.
@AlienatedNortherner
@AlienatedNortherner 3 ай бұрын
They abandoned the working class decades ago.
@curmudgeon1933
@curmudgeon1933 3 ай бұрын
@@AlienatedNortherner . And a lot of the blame can be laid at 'Labour' politicians like Blair and Mandelson.
@jeffwalker7185
@jeffwalker7185 3 ай бұрын
Strange how the Tories are happy with FPTP when they win, but not so much when they lose.
@ShopFloorMonkey
@ShopFloorMonkey 3 ай бұрын
I think that could be said of Labour too. Blair had a big enough majority to change it, should he have wanted to. The electoral system is obviously busted, but if you get to form a government with a majority suddenly it's not all that bad anymore (for you!) regardless of your rosette colour!
@1ForTheShieldz
@1ForTheShieldz 3 ай бұрын
Same for liebour, flip flop the moment they get fptp. The government isn't for the people the sooner people understand that the better
@theworldaccordingto4555
@theworldaccordingto4555 3 ай бұрын
Mick Lynch is right about FPTP vs PR. We had a referendum on changing the UK's voting system during the early days of the Cameron/Clegg coalition government (2011), but the public voted against it. If we have another referendum on changing the UK's voting system from FPTP to PR, then we can have another referendum on reversing Brexit and re-joining the EU...
@Yogafran
@Yogafran 3 ай бұрын
It's uplifting to see how unpopular the unelected peer Mandelson is.
@ciderman1950
@ciderman1950 3 ай бұрын
What a unpleasant person mandelson is.
@mick947
@mick947 3 ай бұрын
I always voted Labour. But while this vile human being is connected with labour I’ll be using my vote somewhere else.
@SamHocking
@SamHocking 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson is a creep!
@Nickelodeon81
@Nickelodeon81 3 ай бұрын
Mandy please go away
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 3 ай бұрын
Starmer should lean into Mick and his advice.
@denzel270
@denzel270 3 ай бұрын
what, strike, strike, strike?
@bakedbean37
@bakedbean37 3 ай бұрын
@@denzel270 How about policies that don't drive people to strike? Like fair pay that doesn't drive down recruitment and retention for a start?
@curmudgeon1933
@curmudgeon1933 3 ай бұрын
Small hope of that if Machiavellian snakes like Mandelson have their way. Decent policies to help ordinary people would eat into corporate profits...and that would never do.
@koshfu
@koshfu 2 ай бұрын
Something to note, Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party got 12,877,819 (40.0%) votes in 2017, Kier Starmer’s Labour Party got 9,704,655 (33.7%) votes in 2024.
@johndaarteest
@johndaarteest 2 ай бұрын
The only landslide is the loss of votes.
@clarecollins2547
@clarecollins2547 3 ай бұрын
We love you Mick!
@stretfordend2103
@stretfordend2103 3 ай бұрын
So do I
@duncanfyfe485
@duncanfyfe485 3 ай бұрын
Is a clearly bitter and out-of-touch Peter Mandelson the best the Beeb can do?
@Kropotkin2000
@Kropotkin2000 2 ай бұрын
The station that gave Nick Griffin and later mostly Farage loads of media exposure? Yeah.
@captainhaddock5974
@captainhaddock5974 3 ай бұрын
Can’t get over mandelson s striking resemblance to the child catcher in chitty chitty bang bang in appearance and character
@denniswinters3096
@denniswinters3096 3 ай бұрын
The Tories will never come back from this. Good, eh ?
@jjefferyworboys8138
@jjefferyworboys8138 3 ай бұрын
You obviously have doubts and are looking for reassurance.
@Ferdyroch
@Ferdyroch 3 ай бұрын
Same was said after the collapse of the red wall seats about Labour. They’ll be back if they get their house in order and Labour don’t deliver with the huge majority they have
@AdrianNelson1507
@AdrianNelson1507 3 ай бұрын
Two party system is alive and well. Give it 5 years 🤷🏻‍♂️😬
@joeg46Highlands
@joeg46Highlands 3 ай бұрын
The Tories fortunately still have a national structure that could generate an effective opposition. I would hate for the Reform party to fill the space that they occupy. The Tories MUST now return to a system where the MPs choose their leader.
@nogingerfool1
@nogingerfool1 3 ай бұрын
oh they will be back there like malaria , also the labour return of 31% of the vote is the lowest for hundreds of years , people voted tory , rishi out , not keir in , this is not a three term goverance
@keithbrandon3660
@keithbrandon3660 3 ай бұрын
Sorry mick but i have a feeling you wont be happy for long as starmer is in the pocket of private finance and the war machine.
@Speysider1962
@Speysider1962 3 ай бұрын
Spot on
@johndaarteest
@johndaarteest 2 ай бұрын
He's already talking to Mandy's friend Tony (notice how he's suddenly popped up in the news again?) Whoever you vote for you get the WEF.
@jonnyandali
@jonnyandali 3 ай бұрын
I've never liked Mandelson.
@foppo101
@foppo101 3 ай бұрын
First job Starmer has to do is the doctors in the NHS.Get this sorted Keir.They deserve a decent pay rise our health and well being relies on them.And no more waiting ten hrs for an ambulance that is a disgrace for a so called first world country.
@boota1979
@boota1979 2 ай бұрын
@foppo101 I agree and get GP's back to being GP's and not a glorified call centre.
@hideshiseyes2804
@hideshiseyes2804 3 ай бұрын
“Thank god we’re rid of this awful sectarianism” in response to Lynch simply *criticising* a Labour politician. Yes, god forbid a politician be scrutinised or criticised in any way.
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs 3 ай бұрын
Mandy should check his facts before hissy fitting. Well said, Tim.
@are_you_smarter_than_a_LLM
@are_you_smarter_than_a_LLM 3 ай бұрын
Timing is everything. Starmer got very lucky, walked into an election where his main rivals, Tories and SNP, blew themselves up, and Reform didn't step aside and instead split the right wing vote. I imagine Corbyn would've won under those circumstances too, even with the inevitable relentless attacks on him from the establishment.
@jamesdavis54
@jamesdavis54 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson calling anyone nasty is hilarious. Corbyn won cope and seethe
@robwilkinson1331
@robwilkinson1331 3 ай бұрын
Audience surprisingly sycophantic towards Mandelson
@marklangley7758
@marklangley7758 3 ай бұрын
Short memories, most people have.
@chebghobbi
@chebghobbi 3 ай бұрын
​@@marklangley7758Hard to see, the dark side is.
@beecee2205
@beecee2205 3 ай бұрын
@@marklangley7758 same with Johnson isnt it, and Truss
@johnslevin4682
@johnslevin4682 3 ай бұрын
Has Tim Montgomerie ever caught any flies with his constant tongue flicking?
@tenfour2215
@tenfour2215 3 ай бұрын
@@johnslevin4682 He's actually flicking his tongue at the coins and notes in peoples pockets.
@edwinhodges611
@edwinhodges611 3 ай бұрын
The problem is the calibre of people that become politicians. Basically the job needs to be more attractive. Over the years parliament has been made up of 650 MPs most of whom are moronic. Most of whom I would not trust to clean my house, look after my kids or make me a meal because they would mess it up. Respect for the likes of Mick Lynch who clearly is knowledgeable, speaks eloquently and has firm beliefs; whilst I don’t always agree with his standpoint the system would be better if being a full time MP was an attractive career move for this calibre of person.
@1ForTheShieldz
@1ForTheShieldz 3 ай бұрын
Sick of politicians never doing what people vote them in for.
@peterjames5569
@peterjames5569 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson has never done a day's labour in his life.
@briankerrison8504
@briankerrison8504 3 ай бұрын
Welfare = health = happiness = security = investment = prosperity.. division in societies does not work 🙄🙄🤔😎
@davidepuglia6561
@davidepuglia6561 3 ай бұрын
SCHOOL = POLICE = FAMILY = BANKS = HOUSING = IMMIGRATION = WARMONGERS = JUSTICE (?)SYSTEM = UTILITY BILLS = TAX = ROYAL MAIL = EXPORTING C02 TO THIRD WORLD COUNTRY ...DOESN'T WORK EITHER. WHAT SHALL WE DO ???
@pcliff9473
@pcliff9473 3 ай бұрын
This guy isn’t labour, he’s exhausting
@Paul-ry5cx
@Paul-ry5cx 3 ай бұрын
He is part of the war criminals that formed the Blair government...its an insult to the British people to have him on any show
@oliversmith9756
@oliversmith9756 3 ай бұрын
Why is Mandelson in my face. He should not be allowed to have his nasty creepy opinions amplified. Shame on you BBC.
@PaulaXism
@PaulaXism 3 ай бұрын
The BBC do love their right wing foghorns don't they.. Maybe it's having a board and upper management and editorial teams stuffed with right wing foghorns which is the problem.
@methanedirigible
@methanedirigible 3 ай бұрын
Mick’s a great bloke. But please - don’t let him go into politics. It is a cesspool. Working class people benefit from his leadership in more direct ways
@daves4026
@daves4026 3 ай бұрын
@Mandelson: we need an NHS without Private sector profits leaching our tax money out. Then with that money we can spend on the staff and the new toys to make things efficient!. He sounds like a watered down Tory. Not good. To you sir I say Guacamoli and mushy peas
@ErikaBhowmick
@ErikaBhowmick Ай бұрын
Thank goodness Mick Well done ❤❤
@jakell99
@jakell99 3 ай бұрын
As someone who endorsed Labour, Mick now has the responsibility to stick to that. This means not enabling them whenever they dodge their responsibilities by shifting the focus to the Conservatives - and they are going to be doing a _lot_ of this..
@1inchPunchBowl
@1inchPunchBowl 3 ай бұрын
You say that like Labour has a magic wand they can wave & undo 14 yrs of destruction.
@ArnoldFlibble
@ArnoldFlibble 3 ай бұрын
At least Mandelson admitted he was a Tory by saying trashing other politicians makes you one.
@kitharrison8799
@kitharrison8799 3 ай бұрын
Mick Lynch is the man. Tim's honesty is fresh. Mandelson is slime.
@bensealey462
@bensealey462 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson is such a creepy closet Tory. We need rid of his like from Starmer's ear
@johnowen1677
@johnowen1677 3 ай бұрын
Well he's closet anyway.
@philstabler
@philstabler 3 ай бұрын
Obnoxious Tory villain
@dennismay1023
@dennismay1023 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson... too right. Friend of Epstein too...
@tenfour2215
@tenfour2215 3 ай бұрын
The Lizard or The Mandy?
@Skylark_Jones
@Skylark_Jones 3 ай бұрын
Mandelson, the "Prince of Darkness" is given air time. God help us.
@schlepcycling
@schlepcycling 3 ай бұрын
Pissed up Tim Montgomerie shouldn’t be given airtime.
@yangtse55
@yangtse55 3 ай бұрын
TBF he apparently has a speech impediment
@01rancid10
@01rancid10 3 ай бұрын
absolutely wazooed.
@tenfour2215
@tenfour2215 3 ай бұрын
Tim Montgomerie shouldn't be given airtime.
@boota1979
@boota1979 2 ай бұрын
The fact that he's a close ally to Iain Duncan Smith says all I need to know about Montgomerie!!!
@frankintegrity7996
@frankintegrity7996 3 ай бұрын
Innocent question.Would you leave your kids unsupervised with Mandelson
@guymankowski
@guymankowski 3 ай бұрын
Mandleson is like if Morrissey somehow had an even creepier uncle
@Bean-js9bc
@Bean-js9bc 3 ай бұрын
The point Lynch makes is valid. We can't look at the percentage of total votes this time around, given the amount of tactical voting that happened with the number one target of getting the Tories out. All my family voted Lib Dem in a safe Tory seat, despite preferring Labour. It worked and happened in many places where the Lib Dems won.
@PaulaXism
@PaulaXism 3 ай бұрын
North Herefordshire going Green was a real surprise. They actually had a pretty decent Tory who was very active about farming subsidies and the awful rural infrastructure. I thought it might go Lib Dem, but Green was out of the blue.
@Arateenteras
@Arateenteras 3 ай бұрын
The elephant in the room ..BREXIT
@Youalleatmuffins
@Youalleatmuffins 2 ай бұрын
We need to get on with the business of rejoining ASAP 💛💙💯
@kwaailight
@kwaailight 3 ай бұрын
Jeremy Corbyn has solid principles and sticks to them .. more than many in Labour including this sanctimonious character 🙄
@martinhommel9967
@martinhommel9967 3 ай бұрын
Share of the vote is irrelevant in our system.
@1mlister
@1mlister 3 ай бұрын
Why is Mandelson still around? Mick is about 100 times more decent
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