By the way, the shipping name for Ren and Jaune is Martial Arcs.
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
That's an AWESOME shipping name! Thanks for letting me know.
@peripheraldevotee948 жыл бұрын
No worries, man! Greetings from Down Under.
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Greeting from......the States. Haha
@serifovic8 жыл бұрын
They are also called Lie and Cheat
@sirjedisentinel8 жыл бұрын
I don't know if there's an official name for it, but after episode 14 ("I don't understand, your name is Neptune." And, "she can't hurt you anymore") I'm hereby calling the ship of Ren and Neptune "Water Lily"
@Zyk0th8 жыл бұрын
I saw a post of Nora recently. Someone did the math on her semblance. *The human body can produce anywhere between 10-100 millivolts, or .01-.1 volts doing any kind of movement. Let's say this movement is throwing a punch. Let's also pretend muscle groupds and fast-twitch vs. slow-twitch muscles aren't a thing and 'I can bench five of me' suggests that she can punch with at least 500 pounds of force. Guessing that Nora's body produces .07 millivolts of electricity to throw her punch, a lightning bolt would power one punch 14,285,714,285.7 times. Condense all of that power into one punch, and Nora Valkyrie could potentially punch you with 7,142,857,142,857,14 pounds of force.* Now, imagine that force channeled into her massive hammer, adding to the force it builds up being swung and the fact that it has even more force applied to its hits with a grenade blast. Team BRNZ is lucky to be alive.
@Zyk0th8 жыл бұрын
Jaune drowning kinda reminded me of that Spongebob episode, where Spongebob becomes a lifeguard.
@benharkin49098 жыл бұрын
I always hated those episodes as a kid. Even then I knew there shouldn't a beach with water UNDER THE FUCKING OCEAN!
@thomaschitham34878 жыл бұрын
Actually, underwater lakes are a thing.
@Atlessa8 жыл бұрын
I happen to be an electrician in real life, and I have a little bit of extra info for you: When you increase the voltage, the resulting power doesn't rise linear, but exponential. P=U²/R Also in most real life applications, the effective resistance [R] gets reduced with higher voltage, but there's no strict function for that. Have fun doing the math again and just imagine how high that number could become XD
@Zyk0th8 жыл бұрын
Pyrrha Nikos That wasn't me who did the math. I just found the image of a post and copied it into my comment. But the thought of Nora's strenght rising exponentially as much as it can terrifies me.
@standingbylife8 жыл бұрын
I can't help think Neptune's Semblance will involve water. That would be one of the greatest irony in RWBY. I love their stage play of "Little Red Riding Hood". And Zwei is great. He's always great!
@mllsflt8 жыл бұрын
Maybe his semblance involves water, and that its so destructive he became scared of his own semblance and water.
@standingbylife8 жыл бұрын
+Mishal Montaner Smart theory!
@lofipoppop55458 жыл бұрын
+Mishal Montaner and his scared of water thats why he dosnt use it!
@vick78686 жыл бұрын
3xtreme Gaming Maybe he has some sort of hydrokinesis that he can't control yet. Maybe that's why he's not only afraid of it but afraid to even come into contact with it.
@clparks834 жыл бұрын
It would be the ability to breath under water
@andrewcarmichael23718 жыл бұрын
Nora in chibi is like NOTICE ME SENPIE.
@IanthePikachu8 жыл бұрын
More like "Notice me Renpai!"
@ffchickens16368 жыл бұрын
+IanthePikachu ok yang
@pelandes35498 жыл бұрын
+IanthePikachu goddammit, Barb.
@icecreamkat63968 жыл бұрын
More like: Notice me Renpai~!
@IanthePikachu8 жыл бұрын
Hehehehehehe
@LadyAtiya8 жыл бұрын
In the Chibi Verse no one ships Jaune and Ren more than Ren. Martial Arcs forever!
@lapisleafuli18178 жыл бұрын
they left Pyrrha alone.... among jaune's stuff..... with no supervision
@Chrisadeth7 жыл бұрын
Wyatt Farmer uh oh fan-Fics commence
@LPSCANDY108 жыл бұрын
"Neo is already chibi." Oh my gosh XD
@Tharanak8 жыл бұрын
Pyrrha couldn't go on the beach vacation; she burns too easily. ;)
@pelandes35498 жыл бұрын
Oh, man. Too soon.
@thomasrobinson5298 жыл бұрын
Booooo. -.-
@vakama90538 жыл бұрын
May I show you the door, sir?
@demokeyan96018 жыл бұрын
what that mean?
@ZukoHalliwell8 жыл бұрын
Or, she couldn't get through the metal detectors at the airport.
@NishaPerson8 жыл бұрын
Ozpins voice actor is great. he also does work in Red vs blue and Camp Camp. I'd say his RvB charecter is the best.
@zeratul____12288 жыл бұрын
which character was he?
@thesupersonicstig8 жыл бұрын
+Jericho Strayker silver guy with yellow accents. (Don't say his name!!!!!!!)
@zeratul____12288 жыл бұрын
that guy?
@thesupersonicstig8 жыл бұрын
+Jericho Strayker yes...............
@zeratul____12288 жыл бұрын
thesupersonicstig oh crap! Ok just realised
@taladedo9828 жыл бұрын
I want them to make a Chibi Scarlet and Sage and when someone ask why they're never with Sunn and Neptune it shows a montage of them doing badass stuff
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
I'm still dying to see them in RWBY proper!!!
@taladedo9828 жыл бұрын
MurderofBirds True that! Especially poor Sage
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
I was SOOO upset that he got "revealed" during the Tournament and INSTANTLY Ringed-Out.
@taladedo9828 жыл бұрын
I just finished watching Berserk and now I'm really into really buff guys with giant swords. I don't care if that sounds wrong.
@MediocrisUrsus8 жыл бұрын
+MurderofBirds Actually you can see him and Scarlet in volume 2 chapter 5.
@davidbesancon37377 жыл бұрын
When Blake fell from the bed she landed on her feet from a bad position. Stealthiest cat joke in the series.
@Emmelmpau8 жыл бұрын
Zwei wearing a Zweiian shirt is the best!
@ZukoHalliwell8 жыл бұрын
Barbara, is that you?
@Emmelmpau8 жыл бұрын
Zwei there! How's it Yangin'?
@ZukoHalliwell8 жыл бұрын
Goddamnit, Alpha!
@Emmelmpau8 жыл бұрын
Weiss'o cold all of a Sun'in? You seem so Adamant to point out my flaws, no need to be so Blake about it.
@ZukoHalliwell8 жыл бұрын
+Leonard “Alpha” Church You know, if I ever met Barb (again), I was planning to ask her to take me on as her pun-tégée/ap-pun-tice/pun-awan. But, you may be better suited for that.
@vaun-antonioreid40987 жыл бұрын
because blake is part cat she always lands on her feet 8:13
@pelandes35498 жыл бұрын
I was kind of half expecting Pyrra to jump into the swimming pool for Jaune in front of Sun and Neptune right at the end of the skit just to add to the comedic value...
@MasterfulPaladin8 жыл бұрын
LOL What if Zwei is the one that will end up defeating Adam for Blake!? Hehehe
@TheOneTrueErica8 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing Nora's gift was a Grim since she wanted Ren to fight it in the school. So cutely insane.
@radarred45294 жыл бұрын
Your reaction to Sun and Neptune's appearance is unusually calm.
@mahonriyojimbo20928 жыл бұрын
*Announces Red Vs. Blue Reactions* "MY PATIENCE HAS BEEN REWARDED!!!" *YES!!!!!*
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
Like I said, I'm AIMING for tomorrow afternoon/evening. But if the Blood Gulch Gods aren't satisfied, the reaction WILL be out on Thursday.
@mikeyhoban73928 жыл бұрын
please react to rwby henceforth its an awesome fan manga from tumbler. I know its not a video but its very intetresting alternate story line and definetly worth a read
@DunceInAwhile8 жыл бұрын
Nora's insanity never gets old!
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
I second that!
@MaxusFox238 жыл бұрын
Drowning Jaune was so freaking hilarious, I almost pissed myself I think. Props to Miles indeed! "HELP! Someone! I'm drowning! I'M IN THE WATER AND I'M DROWING! RIGHT NOW!" _(XD/L
@kross_draws8 жыл бұрын
8:43 "Bark! Bark!" Translation: Hey baby
@AndrewMeyer7 жыл бұрын
1. 2:05 This one's probably my favorite of the Chibi episodes. 2. 3:28 Love this twist. ;-) 3. 6:24 Get it? Because it's actually the other way around. ;-P - 4. 13:56 Nora's got this. ;-P -
@BlackMagic6228 жыл бұрын
Dude, Neptune got beat up by Jaune. That's wack.
@TheHawkeye07258 жыл бұрын
He makes Jaune look badass.
@thechallenger11708 жыл бұрын
+Maelstrom Jaune was already badass
@TheHawkeye07258 жыл бұрын
+Kyle Johnson ehhh ...he's getting there.
@thechallenger11708 жыл бұрын
+Maelstrom true but he was kind of badass in the first volume
@taladedo9828 жыл бұрын
Nah I bet they both ended up crying and sunn had to call an adult
@Bbcreamppp7 жыл бұрын
I want to see Qrow,ironwood,ozpin, and glyda as a chibi
@KeeperOfPoops7 жыл бұрын
RWBY Chibi Season 2 got us with Professor Ozpin Penny Polendina Velvet Scarlatina Taiyang Xiao Long Bartholomew Oobleck Peter Port Qrow Branwen and for the next episode we've got someone special who i was not expecting, i'm not gonna say who but i'll give you a clue... she's a popular classic meme and it's coming
@widowmaker55447 жыл бұрын
it's Winter Schnee isn't it? and so i've seen there's gonna be Tukson (the wolverine guy who got killed by getting kicked in the face by Mercury Black)
@kyliepotter99477 жыл бұрын
Yang is such a freaking HAM~! lmao! Episode 15: I am honestly starting to wonder who is more oblivious on Team JNPR, Jaune (who had his eyes opened) or Ren!
@Dr.Disney8 жыл бұрын
The reason Neptune is afraid of water is because of Kerry's fear of water
@brainarwhaltheillogicalpar67398 жыл бұрын
IanXPikachu yea, though I want to see Neptune's actual backstory. (I'm afraid of getting water in my ears, I also can not swim.)
@Blizzic8 жыл бұрын
I feel like this show was created to torture shippers
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
It's the RWBY fandom incarnate!
@Blizzic8 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah!
@RedCaesar978 жыл бұрын
Confirmed by Millivette Gonzalez: twitter.com/millivette/status/761310194651443200.
@TheElenaFisher8 жыл бұрын
And this is why they tried to put Grandma in a home God damn it Yang
@thumperbunny05338 жыл бұрын
I died when u said neo was already chibi!! 😂😂😂🍕
@animalia55548 жыл бұрын
If Nora is a God, than Juane is a Saint. Thumbs up if you get it.
@AnimatorGirl-dp4sl7 жыл бұрын
animalia555 Green Day?
@animalia55547 жыл бұрын
Joan of Arc is a saint Juane is based on her like Nora is based on Thor
@christiancrusader93747 жыл бұрын
animalia555 Funny everyone that team jnpr was based on a historical or mythical figure that crossdressed at some point.
@ninjammer7268 жыл бұрын
love your rwby chibi reaction videos
@Blizzic8 жыл бұрын
Nora tried to give Ren a Beowulf. Perfect.
@eija44878 жыл бұрын
Murder, I can't express how much your videos fill me with joy 🍩🍩🍩👀
@ZamonVA8 жыл бұрын
I found you by watching your reactions to season 3, and when i went further into your video list, i saw that you reacted to Mark's fanmade trailers, which i thought was awesome, and then i see that you stream on twitch. I look forward to seeing the content you bring to the table, Murder. Keep up the awesome work.
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for getting lost in the trenches of my content. Haha! There's a bunch of content planned for the future, and I'm glad you're looking forward to it. I appreciate the support!
@ZamonVA8 жыл бұрын
You got it man. ^3^
@viveelreytoday38788 жыл бұрын
It's always nice seeing your funny reactions. Looking forward to the rest of them, Arnold! 👍🏾
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! i can't wait to get caught up with everything, and to show off what I've been working on in the background. (All in good time)
@myrkurvr8 жыл бұрын
Btw Rwby chibi is not Cannon to the series
@CarlosRamos-jz9dy8 жыл бұрын
Was Jaune singing mirror mirror pt 2 at the life guard scene
@jovalin59398 жыл бұрын
he was totally humming, I think it was part 1 though
@CarlosRamos-jz9dy8 жыл бұрын
+Jovalin no it was definitely part 2. "Some believe in fairy story's and the ghost that they can't see"
@CarlosRamos-jz9dy8 жыл бұрын
+Jovalin and in episode 6 he's humming the camp camp theme song
@jovalin59398 жыл бұрын
tRRaider px Huh, I heard it more as "mirror mirror whats behind me, save me from the things I see" then again, its literally the same beat to hum, so we're kind of both right
@danielm.50788 жыл бұрын
I caught this, only because I hum it to myself as well.
@deviantgazer46268 жыл бұрын
Pyrrha, this is when you put something metal into the bottle, and use your powers to control it
@yoballahereyolo35078 жыл бұрын
GOD DAMMIT BARB!!!!!!!!!!
@thetalkingbear8 жыл бұрын
Great reactions. You're a passionate young man and look to enjoy your material. Keep up the good work.
@PGT8608 жыл бұрын
so glad to see you in my sub box! can't wait for RvB :3
@nastycrimeboi50858 жыл бұрын
The first skit of RWBY Chibi episode 14 is like the cutest thing i have ever seen. Just makes me like bothe of them more and more
@Wesley-of1sd8 жыл бұрын
Been missing your reaction videos. Great to see them again.
@ArcticGhostXCV8 жыл бұрын
Oh these are absolutely brilliant! I too lost it when Jaune started drowming xD xD
@Shadowlar8 жыл бұрын
Nora definitely sounded like she was channeling the Flower Scouts (which are also played by Samantha Ireland) from Camp Camp when she was talking about that gift for Ren.
@sirnightmare48818 жыл бұрын
for a second I was worried that I missed episode 15's airing on KZbin but then I realized you probably got it off their site I was worried because usually someone makes funny subtitles for each episode but they're removed soon after
@chrisorosz6858 жыл бұрын
I think its all about the Un-Authorized Snuggles! but also pretty good was the Jr. Detective lineup where Ren pointed out the culprit!
@최살구-d7q8 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy seeing your great reaction videos!
@kross_draws8 жыл бұрын
10:00 I like how the subtitles say the they were wrote by the victims of Nora
@ntate1238 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this! Hell yeah! In my opinion, these were some of the best!
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Nora's Workout, Good Cop/Bad Cop and Neptune's Water Fear were some of my favorites from this batch!
@ntate1238 жыл бұрын
Personally, anything that teases Bumbleby in the least by default becomes my favorite, so the Little Red Riding Hood skit was my top pic from these eps.
@SirXendo8 жыл бұрын
I just found out about your channel last night, was binge-watching your RWBY stuff... ...and when I wondered about "Where's the latest RWBY Chibi videos?" ...and now here it is...
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Well I hope my past videos were entertaining for you. It was a BLAST experiencing RWBY Volume 3 with the community, and now that you're on board, I hope you're looking forward to Volume 4 with everyone! And as the saying goes "Ask and you shall receive". That or "Good things come to those who wait". Pick your poison. Haha!
@SirXendo8 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't be hoping... because they did, ahaha... Well, I am very hyped for Volume 4, how I wish it's Oct.22 already... I can't wait to see what's going to happen to the gang...
@roberthebert28268 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or has the facial animation improved dramatically from the first episode?
@izukazephoenix8 жыл бұрын
that cutesy version of 'i may fall' is so heartwarming.
@mooncow3338 жыл бұрын
Dude, did you notice the shadows in the Good Cop Bad Cop sketch?!? THEY HAVE UNLEASHED THE POWER OF MAYA!!!
@CandyGames638 жыл бұрын
I'm so hyped for RWBY volume 4. It premieres one day after my school's bicentennial celebration.
@MajesticWorld198 жыл бұрын
RWBY Chibi has gotten GOOD since you last made a recap video
@LeoNuzlocke8 жыл бұрын
If you look closely, the book that Blake was holding was titled 'How to Deal with Hyperactive Children'
@inspectorwhoreacts8 жыл бұрын
Yay i just reacted to some of these today and its great to see yours!
@kathleenboo56168 жыл бұрын
Hey guys did you notice that Nora wore a mustache
@Sgt-Toxin8 жыл бұрын
Episode 13 with captions on is incredible
@johnny1010xx8 жыл бұрын
the subtitles for rwby chibi are hilarious
@Akash936218 жыл бұрын
THE reason why i didn't add cinder,Ozpin,yang,Qrow, winter, Adam, velvet Neo,em,mercury glynda, Sage, Scarlet, Rees, Neon, Flynt, or maybe Raven and tai yang, because they might not appear or fight and yang doesn't have a arm 10th: YatsuAshi 9th: Coco 8th: Neptune 7th Sun 6th:Jaune 5th Ren 4th: Nora 3rd:Whiess 2nd: Blake 1st: ruby
@FreelancerAmber8 жыл бұрын
You should see what I did after my outro in episode 14.
@AtotaDakota8 жыл бұрын
before falling into the water i just realised jaune was humming a part of Mirror Mirror (this part "Mirror Mirror whats behind you?, save me from the things i cant see")
@amethystrose34807 жыл бұрын
“From shadows” sounds like something that belongs in kingdom hearts.
@hypershadw8 жыл бұрын
In episode 12 Yang was totally being Grif from Red vs Blue. It was a reference to Season 5.
@panick_95508 жыл бұрын
love your reactions and they make the episodes funnier 😃
@djotterz40628 жыл бұрын
"Hey what's up, Murder here." That is still kinda weird to hear, the effect doesn't go away lol
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
Once you've killed as many birds as I have, you get used to saying that. Heh heh heh!
@djotterz40628 жыл бұрын
No Rowlett for you when Pokemon Sun and Moon release.
@ohokay94208 жыл бұрын
"Neo is already chibi" Best line evet
@ohokay94208 жыл бұрын
ever*
@epicwynn2096 жыл бұрын
Rip Ren when Nora and him go on there honeymoon
@Aurilion448 жыл бұрын
I think Neptune is so afraid of water because he shocked himself in the past with his weapon :D
@Psyk0h8 жыл бұрын
How did you only laugh when she said what is good in the hood, cuz I f-ing lost it INSTANTANEOUSLY
@drollfurball28633 жыл бұрын
Blake's book at 9:01 says "Dealing with Hyperactive Children"
@julienichols53338 жыл бұрын
Nora's crazy is a very special brand of crazy that is somehow still quite adorable.
@Turquoise1031MC8 жыл бұрын
Hey, Murder! Big fan! I'm a subscriber, and I watch all of your vids! You're hilarious! Anyway, I have two question in this comment that you probably won't see: 1. Will you be continuing your reactions to "Red vs. Blue"? 2. Do you plan on reacting to "Camp Camp"? That's pretty much it. Just keep doing what you're doing! Can't wait to see you react to Volume 4 and everything after! 😄👍🏻
@mauriciodebetolaza51248 жыл бұрын
1- watch the video 2- he said in multiple comments in videos that he'd watch it in his free time
@Atlessa8 жыл бұрын
The ship name for Jaune x Ren is "Martial Arcs". Just saying.
@KeeperOfPoops7 жыл бұрын
Hey Pyrrha! i must admit in Season 2 Episode 1 of RWBY Chibi was my favorite, cos you have the cutest sneeze ever! even though you accidentally squished Nora's toy cows in that skit :P but i still like you :)
@o.d.d.54378 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute I remember from RTX that the cast asked who else in team JNPR is going to die next and what if its Jaune and what if drowning is the way he's going to die
@taladedo9828 жыл бұрын
That would be literally the opposite of Joan of Arc.....what a twist
@Urasitti8 жыл бұрын
Did you notice the book that Blake was holding titled: "Dealing with Hyperactive Children"?
@dankbullshitter42348 жыл бұрын
That is for Ruby! XD
@Urasitti8 жыл бұрын
Camilo Montoya Hmm, it can be. Initially, I thought this was for Nora.
@dankbullshitter42348 жыл бұрын
Urasitti Holy crap,you are right!! Jejeje
@SoloRogueStudios8 жыл бұрын
Funny you should mention Nora as a mob boss. On the WMG page for the series on TV Tropes, there's a post that puts out the idea that Nora is a mob princess. Monty was apparently reported to have been amused by the idea.
@drakevillarreal36028 жыл бұрын
"what is good in the hood" rwby , 2016
@ghostgokuoldchannel66418 жыл бұрын
Aww, don't worry Jaune! At least you still have your #1 Fan!
@andrewcarmichael23718 жыл бұрын
Ok when I read you comment I imagined TFS goku saying it.
@EwenVRC8 жыл бұрын
still waiting for him to become felix
@Iejir_Isk8 жыл бұрын
That would be Pyrrha?
@ghostgokuoldchannel66418 жыл бұрын
***** No, the literal Fan sitting right next to him :P
@gis4gamer8 жыл бұрын
Too bad Yang kicked it over.
@cinderfell8 жыл бұрын
"what's the ship name for that?" LMAO i manage one of the biggest rwby shipping name lists in the fndm, and according to the list jaune/ren is "lie and cheat"! the full list is here, if anybody's curious! cassiederolo.tumblr.com/post/114782294703/rwby-ship-tag-masterpost
@TheKunoichiPrince8 жыл бұрын
Nora: Did I say you could stop? 😂😂
@PsychoDiesel485 жыл бұрын
VROOM VROOM! BROS BEFORE . . . .Stop right there Jaune! XD
@alexpainter41696 жыл бұрын
Sun & Neptune, the Troy & Abed of RWBY
@BioCraftHero8 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I feel like it's a good time to say that I have 2 AUs: The Carnivore AU and the RWBYTale AU. The RWBYTale AU is kind of self explanatory. But don't get me started on the Carnivore AU. I also made both.
@aidengraves77378 жыл бұрын
On the vacation skit, Pyrrah and Juane didn't leave...
@mauriciodebetolaza51248 жыл бұрын
Jaune DID leave,
@roberthebert28268 жыл бұрын
All I want is Chibi Merc and Chibi Yang going on a planking spree
@danielm.50788 жыл бұрын
Chibi Merc will unfortunately probably never happen. His current VA is outside talent, and Yuri freakin' Lowenthal at that.
@ZukoHalliwell8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel M. In that case, we can probably say goodbye to any chances of Chibi Qrow.
@rainingcomplete30188 жыл бұрын
+Daniel M. Welp...
@DeRedBaronCT7 жыл бұрын
Let us remember this episode for when the season 2 of chibiness is allowed to be posted
@ScileSc8 жыл бұрын
13:24 Pyrrha´s world just got destroyed.
@himanshuwilhelm55347 жыл бұрын
Neptune is afraid of water because he electrocuted himself with his trident.
@anthony..57378 жыл бұрын
28th! Also, glad you're finally getting back to these, Arnold. I love your reactions.
@MurderofBirds8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Anthony! It's great to be back.
@MRJokerPT8 жыл бұрын
I dont think everyone else noticed this... but there was a Grimm on that box!!! XD
@rennierivera32457 жыл бұрын
jaune was humming mirror mirror before he fell in the water
@gianalysrivera25568 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see your reaction on 16, 17, & 18
@spdrman61698 жыл бұрын
9:48 now Ruby is a legit crater face XD
@HistyTV8 жыл бұрын
I ship Ren X Neptune so hard xDDDD
@bricklord10178 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to think that an extremely traumatic event befell Neptune and now he just hates all forms of water. Maybe Volume 4 or the books will explain that.
@Chaos97X8 жыл бұрын
You know, I just found out that the pancake crime here is related to the skit in episode 11.
@Darkarrow978 жыл бұрын
wow really enjoy watching your reaction video and Nora she so funny when she try to confess her love for Ren
@danielcastillo88908 жыл бұрын
oh yea that's the stuff (proceed to inject this directly into vein)