RWBY - RWBY vs AceOps! (Full Fight Clip) [1080p]

[@VanishEclipse4867]

This fight shows a huge difference between Team RWBY and the Ace Ops with how the latter was beaten that quickly one by one. Although it's true the Ace Ops are more experienced, they fail in terms of teamwork and communication compared to Team RWBY. However I'm guessing Ace Ops weren't all in agreement on having to go all out with Vine and Marrow holding back messed with their overall cooperation nor have they ever had to deal with crisis aversion in the off chance one of their members are knocked out. Another comparison is Ace Ops graduated from Huntsmen academy and trained in a controlled environment while you have Team RWBY and JNR having their academic years ripped from them and they had to cross the wilds to get to one kingdom and then again to get to Atlas having to contend with some of the most dangerous Grimm you can imagine and Salem's agents. Not only that, some of them had to go through mental and physical rehab/ readjust their fighting styles while even having to heavily compensate for losing one of their members.

[@AdeptKing]

That doesn't feel right though. They're a elite team, even if they're not friends they should still be able to work efficiently as a team. Friendship isn't a requirement to be a good team or to work with people effectively but yes it does help. I would have liked it better if they said Ace Ops were a newly graduated team then I wouldn't find this unlikely.

[@toalorikan626]

I’m with adept king, if it was just a matter of them panicking about the incoming army and the anxiety about what happens if they don’t capture team RWBY it would have been more believable when they slip up, elms anger comes out of nowhere and even if they have to be professionals they can still be good coworkers and semi friends.

[@shadowhunter0815]

@@AdeptKing It didn't help that the Ace Ops seemed to have some internal struggles and disagrements with the situation. While they had the training it's clear they don't have the expirience where their emotions came in conflict with their mission/ fight, while Team RWBY had already to overcome such issues.

[@destarker1340]

It also didn't help that team RWBY works as a group of four and do 4v4 fights while ace ops are a team of five and that specializes in fighting grims and not hunters

[@VanishEclipse4867]

@@AdeptKing I have a strange feeling based on how they handled the Geist, they are more specialized towards fighting Grimm and not so much other Huntsmen.

[@pokeystick5952]

"Her special power is losing every single fight she's been involved with" Weiss: Not anymore

[@chriskoloski32]

And all it took was her having her magic knight and special training instead of a superiority complex

[@mirror2922]

@@chriskoloski32 I don't think it's just a her thing something has been nagging me about atlas. They really cling to their titles and arrogance like it's the only thing that gives them worth which is concerning considering how toxic her family situation was added with atlas culture. I'm more disappointed in Ironwood he's acting irrational for a man of his stature and age tbh.

[@BlacKingler]

Yeah, so funny, but Ruby didn't win a solo fight either. Even a WF grunt beat her in v2

[@spyninga1]

Did her opponent even really fight back?

[@pokeystick5952]

@@spyninga1 Well now that i think about it, Marrow was holding back

[@leroydsouza69]

Meanwhile, Salem be chilling on her GigaGrimmwhale eating popcorn and sipping Ozpin and Ironwoods tears watching. "Just as Planned."

[@ranferimondragon357]

I eminently thought of Monstro from Pinocchio when I first saw it. XD Monstro would be a really clever name for the GigaGrimmwhale.

[@depressedbreakfast2614]

Leroy D'souza I call it the moby dick but whatevs

[@bennythemonk]

Twist ending, RWBY are secretly really the harbingers of Salem. Wherever they go, destruction and madness follows.

[@ranferimondragon357]

@@bennythemonk The same can be said about every main protagonist(s) throughout popculture.

[@stevenwang5148]

All according to keikaku

[@ArthurCrane92]

Ruby when she's happy: "Let's be friends and save the world together!" Ruby when she's angry: MAXIMUN SASS

[@pottertheavenger1363]

Everybody sassy until Salem says "yo mama"

[@RomeoMakesThings]

@@pottertheavenger1363 This comment deserves more likes.

[@crunchevo8974]

@@pottertheavenger1363 oh no oh nononono oooh you said it. You done did it

[@thycorrupted1286]

Nah, when Ruby's angry, they straight up cut the part where she fights, which means: *RUBY ISN'T ANGRY HERE* But yeah sassy insult.

[@Yuki_Ika7]

i love that change in her character! this is the kinda sass i like!

[@ShadicRothZz1998]

Goddamn I love how the mood changes once one of the Ops goes down. You can really tell that they've never lost before this and they have no idea what to do when their backs are against the wall like this.

[@DreamTraveller1]

A shame that it hardly seems well-earned, given that up until this point RWBY have hardly fought as a team for the most of three whole volumes and rarely against human opponents, much less other Huntsmen, while the AceOps were established to be active for years and considerably more experienced.

[@closotezuka]

WizardDad it really felt like it just instantly went from “children resisting arrest” to just outright “war”

[@Hazoraid]

@@DreamTraveller1 It really doesn't make sense, the only experienced aura-users they fought were Tyrian, Cinder, Mercury, Vernal, Neo, Hazel, and Roman. All of which have different fighting styles to ACEOPS. ACEOPS probably fought way more aura-users during field missions and training.

[@g0ldeclipse]

@@Hazoraid I never saw Vernal with an "aura effect".

[@Hazoraid]

Crimson Heart Vernal had a weather semblance? Can’t have a semblance without aura?

[@taiall]

Marrow seriously has an OP Semblance (the irony being that he's a dog fauns) He can literally freeze a person in place. It's like stopping time for them and them alone and congrats to Weiss for winning a fight by herself for once.

[@yuz_ha]

Kira All ikr, imagine how easy killing Grimm and stopping thieves would be. "Stay." "*Stab*" "Stay." "You're under arrest." Edit: oh my god where are these likes from

[@TyDreacon]

The big issue seems to be stamina. It looks like he uses it maybe twice and he's pretty much down (literally goes down at the next hit). That and it only works for one target at a time, so any group of Grimm could overpower him.

[@Kyrolysis]

@@TyDreacon It seems like his semblance can only affect the direction he's facing. He did manage to freeze an entire crowd in the election night episode.

[@sornyeilevente973]

@@TyDreacon I heard somewhere if he moves his semblance cancels out

[@taiall]

@@TyDreacon maybe or maybe he can only use it on one opponent. He was fighting Weiss and her summoning at the same time. He used it on a group of people at that election celebration because they were all grouped up, but since Weiss and her summoning were seperated he couldn't use it on them at the same time.

[@joshk9226]

Harriet: “You think you can stop us? We’re the best Huntsmen in Atlas.” Ruby: “You were... then you trained us.” Ruby managed to deliver a burn after being subjected to a “ur mom” insult the previous episode.

[@novastri3758]

bruh. that was the hardest "ur mom" insult i've ever heard

[@huh5909]

Josh K ikr that burn was so good after Salem herself said “Your mother said those words to me......she was wrong” which broke Ruby

[@maiseree1511]

Ruby: We will stop you! Salem: Joe said the said thing Ruby: Joe? Salem: Joe MAMA!

[@maiseree1511]

Anyways I'm glad it wasn't another V5 moment where Ruby says something aggresive like, "I'm angry" and then the scene cuts and the fight becomes offscreen

[@ajaderabbit8399]

@@maiseree1511 Salem: Joe mama! Ruby: *Has mental breakdown*

[@rhymenoceros3303]

Yang was so smart this fight, she intentionally ticked off Elm to get her to act emotionally during the fight, planting the bombs on Blake’s clone knowing that Vine was focused on restraining, and then destroying the floor to deprive Elm of her footing knowing how reliant she was on her Semblance to fight effectively. Those lessons with Tai really did pay off.

[@Anonymous-vf5gj]

Ikr! She was just so awesome. I replayed and paused so many times just to see her action again and again. She was truly the smartest and the strongest here.

[@asuna5701]

She listened to her father 😌

[@u1tra_p0wer52]

Yep. I agree with everything you said. Weiss definitely grown too, instead of using her summoning from the start like she did with her fight with Vernal, she gave herself time and cover before summoning. It gave Marrow a hard time catching her and her summon which lead to his defeat

[@TheHawkeye0725]

Weiss and Ruby fought smart as well. Weiss using her glyphs and the steam from her dust attacks to buy her time to summon her construct and Ruby using Harriet’s own cuffs tie her up. Even though it didn’t stop her it was a clever move. Well done.

[@Ando1428]

Yeah i aggree but honestly i thought that her provacation was a bit weak. Her calling the robots doesnt really cut. I mean if elm said that she was right and that she believed in ironwood. What could yang really say. She is a proud atlessian knight. That bait was low hanging unimportant fruit. Elm shouldnt have fallen for it and continued to restrain blake. Threaten for a surrender. But i guess since none of these guys use particularly edgy weaponry then they really couldnt threaten her with much.

[@caseyspark2019]

Harriet met every Speedsters weakness. SUDDENLY WALL!

[@LokiToxtrocity]

Gauss: *sees wall* Aww yeah.

[@thekagawalife2081]

Casey Spark She can’t even phase through it, what a poor excuse for a speedster.

[@caseyspark2019]

@@thekagawalife2081 facts

[@lynnenapa3428]

@@LokiToxtrocity you play warframe?

[@skullninja3439]

She got Mei’d!

[@asuna5701]

Jello: Weiss’ special power is losing every fight she’s ever been in! Weiss: *Hold my DUST!*

[@gabriellaivanova2388]

YEEEEESSS🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@danilo19d]

Who's Jello?

[@gabriellaivanova2388]

Danilo Carlos Jello Apocalypse is a KZbinr who made a “This is Basically RWBY” and you need to watch the video

[@qthestruggler2715]

@@danilo19d a washed up youtuber

[@chriskoloski32]

Some people say that the hammer wielding chick is too strong to be taken out by yang, but they forget yangs semblance is to literally do dish out twice the pain she gets

[@InsertEgoHere]

Even more so now that she's learned to not release it so often and actually let it build up til the very end like she did here as well as against Adam.

[@nyon4340]

So true

[@TheWarmachine375]

Yang has to go Super Saiyan to do that by building up the power or someone rips out even a strand of her hair.

[@Greywolf905]

the thing is she uses it so seldomly that it is entirely possible that the ace ops don't know what her semblance is.

[@AstralMuffin105]

@@Greywolf905 That's true. The last time we saw her use it on screen was against Adam, so for all we know, she'd been sitting on it this whole time.

[@Forgotten_36]

1:13 Everyone there is fighting while hes just squidward dancing

[@TheCrappyZipper]

XDDDDdD

[@dove-o-war]

THAT"S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID WHEN I FIRST SAW IT! HOW HAS THAT NOT BEEN MEMED??

[@div4286]

I laughed harder at that WAY more than I should have LMAOOO

[@gamerbro8399]

😂 I didn't realized that!

[@blakewitch5167]

Yo I can’t unsee that now

[@red-xv8vy]

I LOVE how team RWBY strategically uses their own semblances to counter against Ace Ops' semblances

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

I love how Marrow basically got into a boss fight, with Weiss' attacks spanning the entire room, plus giant fuck-off summon casing him around and he couldn't really push her in melee either, that rapier is not for show.

[@noitsbecky1278]

It's a good thing Weiss fought Marrow--anyone else would've just been screwed

[@Cooljoshua567]

2:54 Everyone deadass stopped what they were doing to peep that lol.

[@MardonNaLou]

Dem Chapped Lips showed that shake in confidence, Ops’ sense of uncertainty in their victory.

[@eliasmagus5086]

Plus Clover wasn't there he seems to be the one that coordinates the team plus Weiss litteraly has a giant armour summon so it wouldn't be unfair.

[@zerocreed8031]

It was a wake up call for the ace. That's the moment they realized they underestimated RWBY. It was the moment they realized they were dealing with fully fledged huntress, not kids. It was a "Holy shit, we could actually lose this" they likely never lost a fight before.

[@SunnyyDayzz]

I think they just never really lost a team mate like that, and RWBY did learn how to change their fighting styles a bit over the last couple of seasons

[@huh5909]

I lost it at that part, he got clapped

[@ValenderAndPo]

Interesting how Ruby had the hardest time with Harriet. Her weapons was just too big for a close quarters fighter like that and it really showed.

[@FederationThunderbolt]

yeah, even i admit, at times i think, for a girl who's a geek with weapons, you'd think after realising her Crescent Rose is not a Ultimate weapon even if she is really skilled with it, she would atleast make a Secondary weapon that still fits her style of fighting... like maybe twin Scythe Blunderbuss's to help with Close Combat

[@katetaylor9558]

yeah I don't know why she hasn't gotten a sword mode like qrow's

[@jingyasun6292]

maybe because her sembalence makes up for it? Like she can just teleport to a distance where Cresent Rose is effective. Also there were a few lines in the first volume where she said she was absloute trash (or not Hunter-level good) at every single weapon (minus sniper probably) until she picked up a sythe.

[@djeverest4078]

Ruby is a Huntress and most of the time that involves hunting Grimm out in the wild where wide open spaces are plentiful and Crescent Rose is most powerful. Grimm are less lively to be found in close quarters the exception being mines, sewers and caves plus her semblance is ideal for getting to the best distance from her enemy to attack. A way to retract her scythe into a Sickle would be a good upgrade though.

[@thewalrus45]

Crescent Rose is just weird, it's amazing against Grimm and other monsters but it's hard to think of many fights where it was all that effective against other trained humans. It's kinda too complicated for it's own good sometimes.

[@dylans.1741]

All of the Ace-Ops were defeated the way their counterparts were: 1. Harriet relied too much on speed and not enough on rational tactics, much like how the hare tired himself out and lost to the tortoise. 2. Vine and Elm tried to fight Blake and Yang separately rather than supporting one another, as the elm and the vine did in the original fable. 3. Marrow simply didn't use common sense at all, much like how the dog foolishly lept into the river and drowned (or got washed away to shore in some versions). 4. Unlike the lucky fisherman, Clover's good luck couldn't protect him against Tyrian's unpredictable nature.

[@peterlopez771]

I think Vine and Elm defeat is manly Elm fault for (lol literally) throwing away of leverage and Clover's death not only being his luck running out but also following (kinda goes for all of them) orders to a point where he is ignoring common sense which led to his demise.

[@princessharu2833]

Peter Lopez Qrow and Clovers Semblances cancelled eachother out, but when qrow got rid of clover’s semblance that means that Aries semblance (Bad Luck) affected Clover and in result was murdered. Unless the real down fall was Qrow’s stupidity and irrationality

[@gwilym1991]

Academically I know all RWBY characters are references, but I can't believe I didn't notice the Ace-Ops are Aesop's.

[@MrBlank-pg5xx]

@@gwilym1991 This is news to me, what are their references?

[@gwilym1991]

@@MrBlank-pg5xx for who on the show specifically do you want to know?

[@jareddrake8656]

Yang was the MVP here. Holy crap, she was using her brain.

[@crunchevo8974]

Yeah first making Vine grab a clone and also breaking the ground at the same tine so Elm couldn't root herself and they could give her the non lethal Adam double penetration combo

[@vazak11]

Yang always used her brain, none of the strategies she used her were one she hadn't used before Tai's lecture, in fact many showed up in the Yellow Trailer itself.

[@Yuki_Ika7]

@@vazak11 she simply improved upon her past self is what you are saying right?

[@Yuki_Ika7]

@@crunchevo8974 yeah that and ruby's smack talk made me go "OOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! DESTROYED!"

[@RedDragonForce2]

She took Daddy’s lesson to heart!

[@AmunrA1991]

Just go to prove that Tai's lessons have gone beyond Yang now: Fight Smarter, not Harder.

[@vazak11]

None of the strategies Yang used here were one's she hadn't used before his lecture.

[@evanlumbers1654]

vazak11 you’re actually joking right? Legit at 3:47 you can see her change her mind from socking hammer girl and instead shattering the floor

[@RedfurredPikachu]

@@vazak11 Then your just not paying attention.

[@Ammy-q4w]

@@evanlumbers1654 She also waited to use her semblance instead of using it instantly like she used to

[@OmniKoneko]

And generally it seems that team rwby fights smart, plus they have special/unique powers compared to the normal person like how ruby's speed power is a better version of the other girl's speed power

[@Alice89chan]

Ruby: splits Harriet from the group, breaking the chain of command Ace Ops have. Yang: blasts the ground so Elm can't use her semblance. Genius runs in the family.

[@PTp1ranha]

Are we sure Harriet is based off a rabbit? Because she went HAM in that fight.

[@KIMIMUSIC]

Ngl this made me laugh a bit

[@diamondtartarous8514]

Eyy *finger guns

[@daniyarsadykov3385]

GOD DAMMIT BARB

[@Martintheauthor]

If you recall, the Hare in the story ALSO got overconfident and lost because of it.

[@pokeystick5952]

No she is based on a hare

[@orhblin]

I think Ruby realizes that Harriet is the biggest threat to the rest of her team. She purposefully separates her from the rest of the team by baiting her, knowing that Harriet has the biggest potential to lend support where its needed. With a speed semblance you can be everywhere at once, jumping in and out of action to be where you're most needed. Ruby knows that Harriet is faster than her, they already tested it, he semblance is more versatile, but for lending support it's not as good as Harriet's. Ruby has to trust that her will cooperate and come out on top without her support, and they do, but only because Harriet lets herself be baited away from the team she's supposed to support. I think this leads back to the conversation they had earlier about being friends vs being on a team. I think it's possible that Harriet assumes that team RWBY doesn't have the discipline to survive losing their leader, meaning that if she can take out Ruby quickly, the rest of the team will surrender without a fight. However, she underestimates Ruby as a strategist and a fighter, losing her team the fight.

[@thecrimsonwrath1337]

And let’s not forget even if Ruby was taken out that’d just give her team more motivation to win

[@picklpunk]

I fucking LOVE the moment at 2:53 Music kicks in right when RWBY gets the first KO of the fight. The aces ops realize they might lose, and RWBY realize they've got a shot. Love it

[@dtkabridged]

Ruby: lol we're the best team now Also Ruby, at 2:58 :Holy shit we actually beat someone

[@hellkaiser64]

Weiss: so that's how It feels

[@ninjaked1265]

More like “oh shit this just got real!”

[@hotlinechernobyl5157]

Please don't hurt the best boi... He's a lovely puppie, he's just misguided...

[@asuna5701]

Marrow is a good boy ❤️

[@crisisdude7439]

Asuna HES following orders ❤️

[@nopputhihk848]

@@crisisdude7439 STAY

[@experiencemaster1743]

he never actually directly attacks wiess, just tries to talk her down only using his semblance when he gets overwhelmed, because if he was as determined as harriot........let's just say it wouldn't have been a fight

[@asuna5701]

Experience Master Um he threw his boomerang at her twice lol

[@extranerdinarytroper4835]

The main reason why Ace Ops lost is because of the culture ingrained within the Atlas. Each one of the team was picked to best compliment the overall performance without the consideration for their cohesiveness as a unit. Additionally, since the Ace Ops works like a machine, removing the Leader (Clover) means that they lack the direction. We have seen that Atlas is very big on following the orders of those with higher authority. In a normal situation, Clover would be there to call the shots and determine how much force their team can use. But without him, there is no one to reign them all in and so their own tempers clash.

[@extranerdinarytroper4835]

@Emiko Lina With Marrow, I would say that the poor match played the role in his defeat. He's demonstrated the ability to freeze large amount of targets as long as he faces them directly. It was simply bad match-up for him to face Weiss whose summons can move independently. Personal opinion, but I wouldn't call Elm's or Vine's Semblances particularly powerful either. While Vine's allows him better mobility and longer reach, it greatly relies on his own speed. Elm's depends on having the solid surface under her feet which played the part in her defeat. Harriet is the best example of the flaws in the team structuring of Atlas and of the whole idea of "cold hard logic". She sees herself as the soldier that impersonally follows the orders but she allows her own competitiveness get better off her and focus solely on Ruby. The issue of the lack of leadership comes in that while they weren't told to hold back, they also differ in the idea of how they should bring the team RWBY in.

[@extranerdinarytroper4835]

@Emiko Lina I think in order to win, the change of match-up would be enough. Vine and Marrow versus Yang and Blake. Vine would need to use his Semblance to temporarily bring both of them close enough for Marrow to freeze them. Harriet and Elm versus Ruby and Weiss. Harriet would need to take out Weiss first before she could properly summon the knight and then help Elm deal with Ruby. In both cases, their situations woul be improved by the Ace Ops members agreeing on the level of force used.

[@RedfurredPikachu]

Something people don't realize is that Team Rwby is always perfectly in sync with each other in a fight. This is all the more apparent in this fight. They know exactly what the others will do without needing to offer any vocal direction, THAT'S some good teamwork.

[@vemto9643]

How could Atlas be the best army in the world with this kind of culture?

[@extranerdinarytroper4835]

@@vemto9643 Mostly because Remnant doesn't exactly have a lot of armies. And within this world, they make sense as an army in that the soldiers obey the authority without much fuss and argument.

[@zacharyhawley1693]

Techincally its the best way to beat any speedster. Suddenly a wall.

[@TheLeXboxidea]

Wile. E Coyote wants to know your location

[@ocaraloho4652]

Blue kayn w/mobility boots and yoomu: Am i a joke to you?

[@chaos_blue1089]

Unless they're fast enough to just phase through it.

[@CurtIsTheSillo]

3:36 Ruby got a punch in! I repeat: Ruby 'I can't fight without my Crescent Rose' ...Rose got a punch in on Harriet!

[@Kaatze14]

I really forgot that she couldn’t fight without her weapon in early seasons xD It’s really an improvement

[@dude2499]

Yang: Guess we really... ACEd that fight Everyone: 😑 Announcer: K.O!

[@lunalgaleo1991]

Guess AceOps are OPS-olete.

[@hirthviktor3215]

@@lunalgaleo1991 shut

[@demonkingsparda]

Other Announcer: ULTRA COMBO

[@aquaticseraph692]

GODDAMMIT BARB!

[@azula8133]

“We’re the best Huntsmen in Atlas.” “You were. Then you trained us.” MY ABSOLUTE FAVOURITE

[@TheHollowClown]

>proceeds to get pummeled and almost loses her fight Well trained indeed.

[@micronus1504]

Lame comeback, the ace ops were nerfed. Yes we saw their training montage, but I doubt it's long enough for them to best the ace ops. Pointless fight.

[@mastertjt56]

@@micronus1504 not really, half of the Ops shown that they didn't want to kill team RWBY. Plus due to the fact that they don't cooperate as a team makes this an easier battle. RWBY didn't want to fight but they was forced to, being defensive in an aggressive will end with you being out of energy.

[@mastertjt56]

@@micronus1504 no Vyne and Marrow kept trying to do this calm and easy. Elm and Harriet was doing what Yang said "following orders". Marrow can't stop multiple enemies as shown, Vyne kept his distance but got taken down due to Bumblebee's teamwork. The Ops never worked together and learned how to cooperate which is a major factor in team battles.

[@donnovandalusong266]

Looks like someone didn't see their records in Vol 1-3.

[@Koganai96]

CAN’T ESCAPE FROM CROSSING FATE! “We’re the best huntsman in Atlas.” “You were...then you train us.” FIGHT! 0:12

[@SchadoVA]

Ace ops for blazblue cross tag battle! Or just a ruby fighting game made by ark system

[@rosey8453]

@@SchadoVA omg that awesome!!

[@asuna5701]

CANT ESCAPE FROM CROSSING FATE

[@asuna5701]

I noticed ur little edit there 😂😂

[@gh.5875]

I love how after Ruby was a savage to the Ace Ops, she rose bursted away, she knew about Marrow's semblance and if Marrow was a smart boy, he could've had 3 of team RWBY arrested with his stay semblance and then all 4 of the Ace Ops would've had to chase Ruby. I love how Weiss was using more dust diversity, yes she still primarily used ice, but she still used fire and wind dust a decent amount, it's some development to her fighting, maybe we'll see more of it in v8? I love how Blake was able to pedict and dodge most of the Ace Ops attacks unless she was caught off guard, it at least shows that Blake is truly a cat, can't catch them unless you trick them. Yang was so smart during this fight, destroying the ground, using Blake's shadows to hurt Vine, angering Elm, focusing on Elm mostly unless Vine needed to be dealt with etc. Tai, you're a great dad

[@WhyLychee]

Ruby may be the youngest but she has shown herself to be extremely smart when it comes to strategy / combat lol

[@MrOmegatronic]

Did you also notice that Ruby "let" Harriet kick her into the room where Weiss & Marrow were fighting, then immediately moved to defend Weiss from Marrow's attack? She was checking up on her partner, to make sure he hadn't semblanced her.

[@gh.5875]

@@MrOmegatronic that was odd to see at first, my forst thought was "why didn't she stay with Weiss?" Then i realized what was going on and now my thoughts are "Ruby definately knows what she's doing"

[@mizel.i]

Also Ruby lured Harriet away with that burn and kept her distracted. If Harriet would think and work with Ace Ops, ıt would have been lost.

[@8elementallords]

@@gh.5875 Yeah, Ruby's whole role in that fight was basically "keep Harriet occupied and focused on her, rather than being able to help out/actually lead the other Ace Ops"

[@annamercado7803]

I loved how each girl was so fluid in their fighting,especially blake. These fighting scenes were really good. The one thing I'm still wondering is... why were Harriet and Elm so mad,like I understand that Blake and Yang told Robin, but come on now?

[@rhymenoceros3303]

Harriet has always shown a bit of a competitive streak and quiet contempt for the girls, Ruby’s boasting and the girls “betrayal” just pissed her off. Elm meanwhile I feel was just riling herself up in order to be willing enough to fight the girls, considering what Vine said to her and also given the fact she could’ve just used her rocket launcher to vaporize Yang but didn’t, instead she hesitated.

[@AdeptKing]

Elm's temper feels like it was just put there for Yang to capitalize on it in this fight.

[@mr.glitch4930]

Blake's fighting was definitely more smooth and such but given how she uses her semblance in her past fights, this fight was really lacking. She was way more agile and evasive before

[@destarker1340]

This fight would had been better if team RWBY kept attacking others than their main enemy while often swapping who they were fighting

[@KingMufasa_8]

@@AdeptKing i think feeling betrayed and having your honor disrespected would make anyone pissed. it didn't seem strange to me at all

[@meilicat]

2:52 is my favorite part, when yang KOs vine and the verse of the song starts, the tone of the fight totally changes. you feel it stop, its so powerful and i love it

[@asuna5701]

Vine: *Gets KOed* Everyone: 👀 Elm: Those girls just killed my husband! 😧 Marrow: Oop! I’m next! 👀

[@rhymenoceros3303]

It was pretty much the moment they knew there was a very real likelihood they'd lose. And well. They did.

[@aurorialgaming1935]

Opponent or not, he didnt deserve that

[@u1tra_p0wer52]

It was at that moment they(Ace Ops) knew, they Fucked up

[@rhymenoceros3303]

@@aurorialgaming1935 I second that.

[@Hawko1313]

Vine was stuck teaming up with Elm... she blew that fight badly. He captured Blake about 10 seconds in and Elm let her go... Smh. And i loved Elm throughout the season, then she cost her team the win by being dumb.

[@Roytahto]

My favorite thing about this fight is how well Team RWBY did their best to counter the Ace Ops, more notably, the Semblances they rely on heavily to be their trump cards. As well as the constant angles of shots of the Gravity Dust Handcuffs that every single Ace Op has on them, reminding us about them and then coming back into play for the fight.

[@facundomoreira531]

Royalty that's so true. Weiss against Marrow was an unwinnable match for him, his semblance only works with the enemy he's facing and Weiss was the only one that could force a 2v1 from different angles with his partner

[@Dreleosh]

2:22 when Blake and Yang take out Vine is one of the coolest fight scenes in this entire show IMO. The bad-ass music just fits so well and the slowmo at the end so damn good.

[@KijoSamhain]

Can we just take a moment to a appreciate how Ruby was able to handle a fight on her own without her relying on her scythe? I really love that fact that yangs training with tai really shows! I also really love how it shows weiss finally holding her own and winning, blake also does really well by fighting as more of the support. Edit: thank you for all the likes! I've never gotten so many likes on a comment. ♡

[@Sorablu12]

She even draw Harriet attention to herself too.

[@jaredrich3012]

Out of them all, Ruby was the one that was the closest. She really couldn’t use her weapon: Harriet was both too fast and a scythe is not great at non lethal takedowns. It’ boils down to her semblance: it’s not speed alone. And because of that, she was able to pull of a reversal when Harriet overwhelmed her.

[@Ando1428]

@@jaredrich3012 well i dont know about that scythe comment. In an irl or different anime fights maybe; because sharp weapons do a shit ton of damage and cuts the landscape up to a rediculously high degree. But rwby has aura. Jaune and a ton of other characters have been hit with highly lethal atks and brushed it off. She would have been fine if she decided to atk with in a more lethal way. Granyed it would slow her down since a scythe is a rather big weapon.

[@ShakeyMac18]

I think Ruby was the one most outmatchd in her 1v1, but she was also the only one trying to use reason. I think when she finally accepted that Harriet wasn't going to stop is when you see her turn things around. Her clever use of Petal Burst to pull a reverse on Harriet was choice. Harriet's refusal to give up even with her arms bound was also fucking great to see, and clearly caught Ruby off-guard for a moment. Still, Ruby didn't look completely out of her element vs. a non-Grimm opponent this time around. She was obviously taking Yang and Ozpin's advice to heart in trying to become less reliant on Crescent Rose in a fight.

[@tiffanypersaud3518]

ShakeyMac18, yes!

[@custardhatter9537]

This has got to be the best fight of the show so far Yang and Blake's battle was incredible. Not only did both of them take some epically heavy hits, but they dealt some out too, and that final blow on Elm was a corker. Funny how Yang riled Elm up to get her to hit heavy and get angry.... the same technique that Neon Katt used in the Tournament back in Season 3. Weiss vs. Marrow.... finally Weiss' first decisive solo win. She was quick-minded, understanding that Marrow could only hold one thing off at once, and as soon as her Guardian was out, she had that battle in the bag. He couldn't handle two things at once. Marrow's semblance I absolutely love. Ruby vs. Harriet... she was determined to win. That moment where she got Ruby face-down made my breath catch, but in the end her anger also got the better of her. Plus Blake and Yang's victory over Vine was the nail in the coffin... it showed the rest of the Ace Ops that they weren't as invincible as they believed. That gave Harriet motivation, but it also blinded her. She could have gone back to help Elm, knowing who she was up against, but she was fixated. With her speed I'm sure she could have tried to slip in a few hits with Yang and Blake, but instead she focused on the 1v1. Music was awesome in the second half 2:53 onwards. Teamwork vs. division is the difference when skill is matched. Fantastic fight, RT have come so far. It's a shame people watched this episode and got their back up about the whole Qrow Clover situation instead of focusing on this.

[@smilecat8963]

absolutely agree!!!

[@geladeiragamer__]

I don't cared about clover, this fight and the song was just awesome !

[@tsukarikaoru]

The animation team has improved so much. It's honestly inspirational lmao

[@midnightstudio1701]

Wait for penny and winter vs cinder

[@itsozzy1378]

Can't lie though, 0:34 was painful to look at...

[@abklm8305]

Poor Marrow. I don't think he's 1v1 fighter. He and Weiss are both control mages but he's more of a supportive type.

[@MrOmegatronic]

Honestly, he's just fine as a 1v1 fighter. The problem is just that his desire to remain friends with RWBY meant that he didn't start fighting until the possibility of 1v1 was gone.

[@gamerbro8399]

The reason why he lost is because he was resistant to team RWBY. He doesn't want to kill them. (He's a cool guy to me)

[@dmegamanful]

3:57-4:04 👏👏👏 girl was fighting with no hands. And then that choke wrap around ruby 🙌 girl get it !!!!

[@SpeedoSausag]

Harriet best Ace Op

[@fatkidascends7618]

@@SpeedoSausag Yes

[@zenzonerzz4789]

@@SpeedoSausag no,marrow is the goodest boy!

[@dmegamanful]

zenzoner zz he did nothing

[@zenzonerzz4789]

@@dmegamanful in the fight yes,but i mean character wise

[@Megabonzi16]

Weiss actually won a fight on her own!

[@carnelianfox5010]

And then she won Ruby’s fight for her! Weiss is on a roll!

[@Truthaehnchen]

@@carnelianfox5010 shhhh don't jinx it

[@KIMIMUSIC]

Would be shame if the writers never let us see Weiss get a solo shot again! That would suck!

[@hellkaiser64]

Well...goodbye to weiss' losing meme

[@facundomoreira531]

Finally! Some recognition!

[@ettiaillustration8118]

I gotta rant because this is by far my favorite fight in RWBY. It’s clear throughout the series that the AceOps are strong - but only together. They are a great team but can’t operate as efficiently as individuals. They rely too much on the others being there to back them up (as Harriet remarks after they secure the Schnee Mines), whereas RWBY can operate apart from each other. Their separation for volume 4-5 helped the, grow as individuals without relying on the others. how team RWBY fights them is incredible because they target the AceOps weaknesses while playing to their strengths. Ruby vs Harriet: Harriet is practically the leader when Clover isn’t there, so by separating her from the group Ruby is able to keep Harriet from unifying the Ace Ops. Ruby also edges her on by pulling out Harriets competitive side by challenging her and drawing her away in a race. We can also see how Ruby’s close combat has improved from Volume 5/6. Weiss vs Marrow: by separating Marrow from the group, his semblance cant be as effective - especially against Weiss who can summon creatures that can act apart from her. Also, where Marrow is hesitant, Weiss isn’t holding back (heck, she nearly skewers him). She could see his hesitation and used it against him. Blake and Yang vs Vine and Elm: Blake and Yang pull the two Ace Ops who have the least chemistry together. Vine and Elm have varying fighting styles and personal beliefs that make them incompatible together. Yang and Blake are practically one, being able to fight toward the same goal without needing to communicate. Just a glance and they already know what they need to do to support the other. It was also vital for Yang, the tank for RWBY, to pull Elm, the tank for the Ace Ops. Yang can take Elms hits while the other members of team RWBY can’t match her brute force. It is also obvious how much Yang has grown as a fighter, where she attacks the floor instead of Elm. This move takes The effectiveness of Elm’s semblance away. This fight encapsulates the growth of team RWBY, as a team and individually. Massive props to the writers for this awesome fight scene!

[@venzivenzivenzi]

Perfectly said. I appreciate how much you can see within four minutes of exclusively fighting. It really shows how much each of them have improved with their training in Atlas and with their whole character in general.

[@professortrickroom3777]

Nice analysis! RWBY VS Ace Ops has received plenty of flak because of Team RWBY's Victory being forced or the plot demanding it, and the fact that it could have been avoided with a single "Stay!" from Marrow. It's nice to see the POV of someone who likes the fight.

[@majormetcalf1225]

It’s cool how yang uses her power like a devil trigger now instead of a spam

[@hirthviktor3215]

Which version of devil trigger are you talking about? The normal DT or the new sin DT

[@popcultureenthusiast5587]

@@hirthviktor3215 well both ways really, but if you want to talk in terms of power levels it's probably normal dt

[@majormetcalf1225]

Hirth Viktor the normal one

[@DanielTAKD]

We start names with capital letters. Common knowledge.

[@ilyjill77]

@@DanielTAKD no one cares

[@Nash1t0]

Are we going to ignore the fact Weiss stole Ruby's win?

[@Canonico_trc]

Even tied up Harriet was able to keep Ruby in the defense... so Weiss needed to intervine... i supposed is Ruby style is of a true huntress she is very good against Grimm (not only with silver eyes) but against human she sucks... kinda underwelming she hasnt improve in hand to hand combat

[@alexisgirard9376]

@@Canonico_trc it looked more like Ruby was waiting for her to attack. And also, we can't really know who would of win because it didn't look like that fight was about to end soon.

[@u1tra_p0wer52]

No

[@experiencemaster1743]

how? all ruby really did was tie harriot up, other than that she never takes a swing

[@alexisgirard9376]

@@experiencemaster1743 Maybe, but like i said, the fight over for either of them.

[@makisbizarreadventure4669]

I dont even watch RWBY but i came across this fight and I really like that I don't know any of these characters but you can tell the moment they take out the Sticky Guy, the whole fight atmosphere changes. It went from "we're arresting you for your own good" to straight out war. I also like that even team RWBY looks surprised they're doing so well as well as the AceOps. Almost like a wake up call that these aren't just amateurs they're dealing with. Also like how it builds morale too. Like when you see your team doing well, you start to do well too. Vice versa if doing horribly

[@vexxama]

You can just see the ace ops fracturing here. None are on the same page, each are getting emotional to different degrees and want to settle things to different extents. She said it herself, they aren’t friends. When there’s disorder among them they have nothing to fall back on. Hell one of them advocated lethal force because she was angry and tried to rationalise it as an extension of the arrest order, but she’d just made that decision herself. For people just following orders, they seem to be deciding what those orders should mean a lot

[@BiscuitBorderCollie]

I seriously don't know how to express the love I have for this entire fight. It was so well executed and I can't believe how far this show has come as a whole. Props to CRWBY man.

[@itsozzy1378]

It's good and one of my favorites, what brings it down a bit though is uh... 0:34 This...

[@BiscuitBorderCollie]

@@itsozzy1378 nah

[@itsozzy1378]

@@BiscuitBorderCollie no? Wym? The fight was great but that was just painful to watch tbh.

[@BiscuitBorderCollie]

A Wild Doggo mkay

[@itsozzy1378]

@@BiscuitBorderCollie glad we came to an agreement, very cool

[@asmrsaura]

everyone: weiss can’t win a fight on her own. weiss: hold my summon

[@blazingkite8983]

1:14 has anyone noticed that Vine just went Squidwards?

[@calliope1818]

Blazing Kite He’s got nothin on Katara though😏

[@DanielTAKD]

I'm sorry, Earth is closed today

[@tsukarikaoru]

XD

[@paulbonner2794]

Yang when she throws Vine: Means get lost Squidward.

[@MemeWeebThomas]

2:55 oh no they’ve discovered our greatest weakness, Teamwork and Friendship!

[@ajrich1726]

It was more of an emotional battle because they really didn't want to fight each other but there emotions came into play after they realized Team RWBY will not give up

[@Nanami_Mitaka]

@@ajrich1726 yea I call bullshit just because you have friendship don't mean you can war win battles and even if I came to watch rwby and not my little pony friendship is magic.

[@cronch9716]

Tarshish Golding Check the top comments on this video. It actually explains why it was RWBY who won. Maybe if you actually paid attention to the show instead of complaining why this n that didn’t happen in your favor, you’d understand a bit better.

[@Nanami_Mitaka]

@@cronch9716 read it still laughing and calling it bullshit but at least you try

[@Gisselle4529]

But none of them won a 1v1. Weiss has an assist from Ruby & Vice Versa. Blake & Yang dealt with Vine first then Elm.

[@gino14]

Ruby: Brags to anger the Atlesian Special Forces Also Ruby: Immediately pleads to them the need to work together

[@JS-kr8fs]

2:48 Alternate title: "Yang plants herself an AceOps tree"

[@SchadoVA]

Lmfao TFS

[@cunningsmile4166]

"I'ma plant me a dumbass tree."

[@gamerbro8399]

That was an awesome slam

[@gamerbro8399]

@J S 😂

[@leastlikelysuspect5122]

0:10 Who taught her how to throw shade, like Yang throws Vine?

[@leastlikelysuspect5122]

Probably Qrow, most of the main cast doesn’t really trash talk

[@leastlikelysuspect5122]

Paden Conner Yeah but I feel like ignoring him by leaving is a better form of disrespect

[@tiffanypersaud3518]

LeastLikelySuspect, HAHAHA! Poor Vine! It’s even funnier because vine is a type of plant/tree.

[@therealchatnoir]

I guess throwing things runs in the family

[@av799]

Kudos to Ruby keeping up with Harriet, and still managing to briefly back up Weiss. And then for Weiss returning the favor.

[@guyyscotty]

Best fight of season 7!!!!! WE HAVEN’T SEEN A FIGHT LIKE THIS SINCE VOLUME 3

[@ykm205]

Really worried about that, isn't the quality going down too fast?

[@theguywithsomething8634]

Though i dislike the context surrounding it, the Yang vs Adam fight was pretty dope. As was Qrow vs Tyrian. And while I probably need to re-watch the Cinder vs Raven fight, I think we can all agree the best off-screen fight (better even than Cinder vs Ozpin) was Jaune defending his virginity from thirsty mothers.

[@guyyscotty]

the guy with something lmao point taken but i meant all of team rwby fighting together

[@ykm205]

@@guyyscotty Well the fights team vs team were pretty cool. Now, I wonder if we'll see more of them working together in the next volume

[@Sunshine-eo2sp]

@@theguywithsomething8634 cinder vs raven imo was more of just explosion fest and not actual choreography. This is choreography and smart camera work. Adam vs Yang and Blake holds up Qrow vs Tyrian in v4 doesnt hold up imo, volume 7 holds up a bit better

[@neonthehedgehog12]

0:24 Whoever made this shot knew what they were doing there. xD

[@bobbyshewan4229]

Lol Ruby spit that venom before the match even started “We’re the best huntsmen in Atlas.” “You were. And then you trained us.” SAVAGE. Especially since Yang is kinda lacking in the roasting department. Great fight

[@salvadorgarcia9897]

RWBY Vs Ace Ops might be my favorite fight tied with Blake and Yang Vs Adam. Like the mentioned fight, it tells a story. Ruby knows that Harriet is the most over confident and competitive so she taunts her making her leave the room, knowing her speed could lead to her immediately handcuffing everyone. Yang never matches Elm in strength, but we know that she can tank the hits from her shown by her fight with Adam and the Torchwick mech. Weiss uses a semi Freezerburn tactic and ice shards to distract Marrow long enough to use her semblance which we know takes a bit of time to activate. Yang taunts Elm, a character like her who is very driven by emotion and is very passionate about what she does and her morals, a tactic that she’s used against Adam and learned from her past mistakes. While some people could roll their eyes at Yang’s taunt, I saw it more as strategy. As little we’ve seen of the Ace Ops, they do care about people and want to protect them. However they are still loyal to Ironwood. They have conflicting emotions. From my perspective, Marrow is the only one upfront about it due to being the newbie and relative child of the group. Yang knew this would get under Elm’s skin since she is prone to emotion (shown in Episode 2) which is why she did it. This angers Elm and she lets go of Blake. In the only time Elm and Yang have a strength contest, Yang uses her gauntlets to distract her and knock her away while freeing Blake. They then take out the ranged fighter by slyly using slight of hand with the hand gauntlets. They then destroy the ground with Vine and with more gauntlet blasts to destroy the very thing that makes Elm and immovable object. All this while Blake is distracting her. Yang goes against the rocket launcher, and feigns a hit then hits the ground. This launches Elm into the air where Blake is and they pull of a Yin and Yang punch. Weiss uses her surroundings and environment to corner Marrow. Due to the support from her semblance, she’s able to tire Marrow out and land a fire blast. Ruby uses her semblance to counter Harriet’s and handcuffs her, disabling her long enough for Weiss to come in with the clutch. The closed environment was used in a way we haven’t really seen used before. While the characters have fought In closed spaces, it always felt like they had as much room as they needed in order to move around. This time, the characters are bouncing off walls for momentum, being slammed into walls to cause more damage, and using the environment to their advantage to the fullest like with Weiss and Yang. Yang’s fight with Elm especially shows how much she’s grown. Yang Volume 1-4 would’ve just charged head on, but she used legitimate strategy this time. That’s why Team Rwby won this fight. Strategy and teamwork. Say what you will about the Power of Friendship, it can be used well and used poorly. It was used well here. Team Rwby didn’t win because their love for each other pulled them through. Ruby trusted her team enough to take care of the rest of the Ace Ops when all she had to do was at least keep pace with Harriet. Weiss is clearly stronger than Marrow and has more to her advantage such as her semblance. The Ace Ops are partners and that’s about it. While they do have decent strategy (shown in Episode 3) they never really worked in tandem with each other to the extent of RWBY. Blake and Yang have such a strong bond due to all they’ve been through that they can tell each other which combo attack to use with just a look. The fact that the Ace Ops all had conflicting feelings on how hard to go against RWBY also goes to show that this isn’t a strong team, it’s just a strong set of individuals put together. Another thing to note is that they were only chosen because of complimentary semblances. So while they might work well together, it still leaves open some predictability as they were only chosen because of that. Team RWBY have semblances and fighting styles very different from each other, but that just makes them more unpredictable. Marrow pointing this out earlier in the Volume shows that at surface level, Team RWBY shouldn’t really work well with each other. However, precisely due to their friendship instead of being simple acquaintances, they are able to know the ins and outs of each other’s fighting styles. They’ve gotten time to know each other, how they fight, how they think, how they react, and this goes well with Blake and Yang. Elm and Vine were not expecting for the two to work so well in tandem and that is one of the many reasons they lost.

[@jonathangonzalez9394]

Salvador Garcia You writing this is impressive, very in depth 👍. I like yang new weapon mods, sticky bombs. The sound effects reminds me of Call of duty black ops 2 gun where its a shotgun and launcher.

[@thanhmultiverse3530]

Salvador Garcia great comment! 👍🏻

[@aceblaz5502]

Excellent comment. I do have to say tho, Clover was the leader and strategist, the most level-headed and likely the glue that kept the team together. I wonder, if he was there, maybe things might have been different. Anyway, doesn't matter. Go team RWBY!

[@jassiiij]

@@aceblaz5502 probably not because he would be fighting Qrow. they were inseparable and Qrow would be siding with the girls and on top of that Robyn would be there technically since the three of them were together while this fight was going on. Robyn would side with the girls so she would fight beside Qrow against Clover.

[@mattjaynes4167]

I enjoyed reading this comment deeply, because it comprehensively sums up my own excited observations! CRWBY knows what they're doing when designing these scenes - it's good to see we can effectively analyze them as a fandom.

[@Ramsey276one]

Vine felt like Overwatch’s Dalai Robot during the fight “EXPERIENCE TR... oh boy...”

[@conmanay4563]

1:48 thank you for being the only acting like a real person in this situation, I get them siding with Ironwood but being totally ready to murder people they have be working with is nonsensical

[@jjilatt123]

Nobody: Yang Xiao Long: S U P E R S A I Y A N

[@93ImagineBreaker]

no

[@hirthviktor3215]

Maybe in Vol 1-4 but not anymore.

[@lenlimbo]

@@hirthviktor3215 Not quite. She still becomes Super Saiyan. But just when she needs it, instead of spamming it. That's a very big difference here.

[@skkofculture4232]

Did you ever listen to yangs season 1 Character Song? The call her a Supersaiyan

[@J4M35_W1NZ_EXE]

Yang with those gauntlets, she would've been called the Iron Fist

[@aurorialgaming1935]

Or iron arm?... I'll see myself out...

[@Aulumos42]

@@aurorialgaming1935 DAMMINT BARB!

[@joejocas8748]

I just realized that Ruby ran to a different area to taunt Harriet into chasing and fighting her alone, because if Ruby fought Harriet while her teammates are close by, Harriet could have restrained them easily then the whole Ace Ops could just focus on fighting Ruby alone.

[@thekagawalife2081]

“We’re the best huntsmen in the field!” “You were.” (shrugs) “Then you trained us.” (beats drops) THAT IS THE MOST BADASS FUCKING LINE IN THE WHOLE DAMN SHOW! FUCK YES!

[@eeveikyu2431]

I CANT SAY IT ENOUGH OMG THE BEST TEAM RWBY FIGHT EVER I LOVE IT

[@KIMIMUSIC]

Queen Rwby AGREEEEE! THE MUSIC AND ANIMATIONS ARE PERFECT

[@eeveikyu2431]

@@KIMIMUSIC yeah some one other then me loves it when team rwby kicks butt

[@Sunshine-eo2sp]

nah team RWBY vs Torchwicks mecha was wayyyy better than this

[@kittlegame5550]

“You were… then you trained us.” can we talk about how COLD THAT LINE IS

[@Sapheiorus]

The remarks on what happened in the fight inspired me to make observations on what happened in this fight tactically and strategically. I do love this fight scene, myself, but it became even more appreciated when I started to pay attention to the overall picture and how the smaller details of the fight contributed to the result. Prepare for a wall (of text) that would make Ironwood proud. Weiss won in a one-on-one engagement due to overwhelming the enemy semblance with the properties of her own allowing control of a summoned ally, making it a virtual two-on-one... she also received brief assistance from Ruby. Marrow committed an error being over-reliant on his semblance, not realizing quickly enough that stopping one combatant meant releasing the other and that his pseudo-timestop could be easily circumvented because of this. If he had been in either of the other two engagements, he'd have been more helpful and could have been the deciding factor of the fight since he'd either stop Ruby dead in her tracks or neutralize the teaming threat of Blake and Yang's formation. The first tactical mistake of the fight on the part of the Ace Ops may actually be that Marrow didn't use his semblance on Ruby at the onset, since she would be the most likely to manage escaping the surrounding formation uncontested (while technically not true, overestimating her could have worked out for the Ace Ops). Yang and Blake won by coordinating two separate individual eliminations to defeat the enemy formation in a two-on-two engagement. Their fight was probably the hardest of the set, but their teamwork and bond made them harder. Juking Elm to gang up on Vine with quick, opportunistic guile set the pace of every other engagement from that point forward, since their presumed eventual victory in a two-on-one scenario would pressure the enemy to swiftly wrap up their fights to assist, leading to mistakes. It's uncertain if there was a better place in the fight for Elm or Vine, since Elm doesn't have a dexterity that pairs well against either Ruby or Weiss while Vine seems to be better off playing support rather than fighting alone. If Vine and Marrow had switched, though, the fight may have had a different balance. Vine may not have been outclassed by Weiss in the same way Marrow had been, but, more importantly, Marrow would likely decide the fight against Blake and Yang with his semblance while Elm could potentially neutralize either one by themselves. This, I would say, may be the first STRATEGIC mistake of the fight by the Ace Ops for not splitting up more appropriately. Ruby occupied what was probably the most individually competent enemy in a one-on-one chase, aggroing Harriet into cutting off her escape (presumably to get help), long enough for other engagements to resolve and receive assistance from Weiss, resulting in an eventual two-on-one surprise that secured victory. Managing to bind Harriet, who made the mistake of attempting an arrest against someone with a semblance that can partially dematerialize Ruby, contributed to a loss of Harriet's offensive options that enabled the result. Frankly, Ruby would have to have her aura depleted first, if not outright knocked unconscious to take her alive without a more appropriate semblance or scheme to stop her. Unfortunately, Harriet couldn't manage that when their speeds were evenly matched. Harriet in this case would have been better off engaging Weiss than anyone else in the Ace Ops, but Ruby's speed ultimately dictated that Harriet commit to stopping her. This engagement starting decided the entire battle's strategic split, determining the flow of the entire fight. While Ruby didn't decisively beat anyone herself, per se, she catalyzed the victory by running off. It's worth noting that not a single fight here was won with members of Team RWBY being completely by themselves (if you can accept that Weiss is never "alone" so long as her semblance is in effect). Also, whether intentional or not, fan-favorite team pairs (Bumblebee and White Rose) were used to attain victory. Meanwhile, two members of the Ace Ops were essentially made to engage in single combat against two others in some way. Leaving aside the smaller tactical considerations, Team RWBY had the superior strategy at the scale of engagement as well as the established match-ups once the fight entered its first equilibrium. It may have been completely happenstance that way, but that's how I'd best describe what happened here beyond a broadbrushing statement like: "Team RWBY was better than the Ace Ops".

[@thepotatogamez831]

Sapheiorus not another essay to read lol

[@fkoberon]

Great explanation thank you for the time you spent writing!

[@8cutstrings]

Another detail to consider, team RWBY are close friends who have been together for a long time, and they can read eachother like books, whereas the Ace Ops, as Harriet said, aren't friends, just comrades, and don't have the same connection team RWBY has. And also as Ruby said, they did train and fight with the Ace Ops, increasing their already high skill level to match, and even surpass the Ops

[@Sapheiorus]

@@8cutstrings You are right, that is a social and skill element to the fight I omitted for the sake of my focus, but it's definitely a significant part of how the actual tactics worked out. The skill aspect is an underlying reason Team RWBY could manage to capitalize on the tactical advantages they had at all. Without training, even with the same courses of action they took in the fight, Team RWBY would have failed on grounds of pure merit. The strongest bonds show us how we need each other AND how we DON'T. Without their bonds, Blake and Yang in particular would not have pulled off their first elimination in silent coordination; they could read each other's needs in the heat of the moment and improvise fluidly. Ruby may have focused too hard on "sticking together" were she still too socially insecure with the team to the point where she could think they'd consider her abandoning them or if she lacked a mindful trust in her teammates' ability to handle themselves in her absence the moment she tried to run off. The teams even strategically divided the way they did because of those bonds existing.

[@drowknight7521]

@@Sapheiorus Can I just mention that Harriet wasn't so much going after Ruby because of her speed, but because what she said prior to busting down a presumably armored door, Vines first line was telling Harriet that not everything is a competition, she was triggered at the implication of being second best, she couldn't focus on another person, ally or opponent long enough to actually help for the life of her, and it ended with Weiss blindsiding her, she could've ended any of the other fights in a flash if hadn't turned Ruby's burn into a personal attack(which Ruby might have done on purpose) also the main reason the Ace-Ops couldn't get their act together was 1)Clover wasn't there to organize them("What would you do without Me") and 2) none of them seemed to agree on how Team RWBY should actually be punished from Vine's emphasis on capture, all the way to Elm's implied mental preparation to KILL them, they were in turn technically working towards up to 4 different goals capture, kill, defeat(Harriet trying to prove she's the best), and in Marrow's case negotiate (true to his fable he's trying to have his cake and eat it too)

[@mcparty7962]

So no one gonna mentions how wiess almost killed marrow here 3:05

[@filipwiewiora4725]

I believe this is the reason he started using his Semblance

[@amransom26]

He still had aura it wouldn’t have killed him

[@zerocreed8031]

It would've hurt alot but his aura would've took the blow

[@silverwolf2676]

No, I was distracted by his “I’m fabulous “ pose while dodging that.

[@andrewvillagran2942]

The only reason why the Ace Operatives were defeated is because Clover wasn't there. Because Clover provided good fortune to the team. Remember what Clover said in episode 2 "what would you guy's do without me." Edit: Wow, I wasn't expecting this comment to get 247 likes. Thank you to the people who corrected me about Clover's semblance and thank you for leaving your arguments and opinions. I wrote this comment because I was rewatching Volume 7 again and when Clover said those words in episode 2. I was thinking, could the Ace Ops stand a chance against team Rwby if they fought as a full team? That's all I wanted to say for now. Have a great rest of your day and stay healthy.

[@chunkymonkeychunky]

I didn't even consider that. But add in Qrow, and it'd be evenly matched again.

[@lilowhitney8614]

That disregards every bit of personal skill we saw from them, and we saw a lot. They use the good luck as an extra edge, but they don't rely on it.

[@93ImagineBreaker]

doubt there that reliant on one guy

[@93ImagineBreaker]

I find it odd there only good cause of literal good luck plus clover could been joking

[@MrGamis]

How good of luck did the dude have? He died

[@emmaloctober6001]

One thing I noticed in this fight. Both RWBY and the Ace Ops used teamwork during this, especially in the double battle in the circular room. BUT, they did teamwork differently. Team RWBY defended each other and had each other’s backs without a second thought. The Ace Ops only used teamwork if it was convenient for the individual person

[@mistressofdreams6031]

Yep thats how they differ, that was the whole point, RWBY trust each other fully, Ace Ops only trust their single self

[@Pyrochazm]

Any of ya'll play overwatch? "Ice wall, comming up"

[@TrueAce2146]

Lolz

[@blitzus5022]

Pyrochazm “I’m just a scientist”

[@bruhkris20]

4:08

[@splintercell320]

So I did my best to try and count how many times each person was hit and ideally how much damage they took: Ruby - 5(4 little hits , 1 moderate hit) Weiss - 0 hits Blake - 3(2 really big hits, 1 small hit) Yang - 4(2 big hits, 2 small hits) Harriet - 2(1 big hit, 1 small hit) Marrow - 2(1 small hit, 1 big hit) Elm - 6(3 small hits, 3 big hits) Vine - 2 really big hits From this I think Ruby and Blake’s Auras were critically low(Blake’s did flicker, not break). Yang’s was low, but she’s special as her semblance gets stronger the more damage she takes. Weiss with the flawless victory. Harriet used her semblance excessively and wore herself out. Marrow’s semblance must tire himself out the more he uses it and/or if he uses it on a big target. Vine didn’t get hit much, but that last hit was brutal and he did use his semblance a lot. Elm is a powerhouse, she took the most hits.

[@lenlimbo]

I'm not sure about Ruby's Aura. She wasn't even breathing hard at the end of her fight. I think she minimized most of the hits, and her careful use of her Semblance meant she didn't burn too much Aura on that. If it wasn't for Blake's flicker, I wouldn't be surprised if Weiss's aura was the lowest of the team. Her whole fighting style heavily depends on her summons and sigils, so she must have burned a lot, even without taking hits. Yang's new defensive style coupled with her superior physical prowess means that if she play smart, she doesn't receive too much damage even if she takes the most hits, because she blocks a lot of them. Even with the use of her Semblance, I think she may be the one with the most Aura at the end of the fight. And yeah, Blake was probably the one who took the most damage to her Aura. The flicker tells a lot about how low she must be at that point.

[@light-uq9ws]

@@lenlimbo I forget how much of a double edge sword aura is

[@gamerbro8399]

I think Weiss did get a hit because she summoned a ice wall to knock out Harriet

[@AwesomeAsadaf]

@@gamerbro8399 The "hits" are hits taken from other people, not hits that the person made on someone else. Weiss got 0 hits because no one hit her during the fight

[@gamerbro8399]

@@AwesomeAsadaf oh okay

[@markmorales7958]

“Experience can get you so far, no mater what rank you are today...”

[@kyleyuen245]

Vine and marrow deserved better

[@asuna5701]

Vine is a nothing character. Marrow deserved better! He is a good boy❤️

[@sreddi83]

Yh they seemed to have 0 aura. 1-shotted

[@kyleyuen245]

@@sreddi83 morally they were the best of the ace ops, vine not wanting violence and marrow intentionally holding back

[@sreddi83]

@@kyleyuen245 Yh Agreed, Harriet and Elm just out for blood

[@whatthehail1161]

Nah vine got outplayed lol

[@DavidJak1995]

Can we all just take a moment and appreciate how awesome of a moment it was with the soundtrack and yang activating her semblance for that ground pound?

[@therevenant9571]

I will never grow tired of everyone’s reaction when the first specialist gets taken down my first time watching this I couldn’t help but laugh and think “1 down 3 to go”

[@randomer8119]

I used to think Blake was the best solo fighter in Team RWBY but I think Yang is now. What do other people think and why?

[@Grmpman]

Pretty sure its always been Yang and I think even team RWBY knew that. They picked her for the tournament in Vol 3

[@JasonToddsThighs]

Honestly the only times Blake ever fought solo was when she fought Roman in Volume 2 and Adam in Volume 6 before Yang appeared. Idk if she's the best solo fighter, but they really need to let her win a fight by herself like they did for Weiss (although i love how much Blake and Yang work together as a team, but still, my girl needs more time to shine)

[@randomer8119]

@@Grmpman Definitely. But I always considered it was Blake since she was the most versatile and her semblance works well in a 1v1.

[@randomer8119]

@@JasonToddsThighs Don't forget against Ilia too! While she hasn't had many solo fights, I always thought she had the best balance of offense and defense.

[@JasonToddsThighs]

@@randomer8119 Fair enough, considering she was able to get through to Ilia, but Blake still got knocked out and Sun came to save her. What I mean is that she needs to beat the hell out of someone by herself without any help

[@Lee-sq6ic]

0:42 Blake doing her best spiderman impression

[@ColdCoalTV]

"Until you trained us. WHOOOSH!" THE SAVAGERY!

[@pathetic2399]

And then she proceeded to get her ass kicked

[@micronus1504]

@@pathetic2399 Ruby only knows how to talk a big game, bring up her mom and she'll break down. Her new found weakness.

[@justincooper1342]

WHOOOSH! Stupid line:/

[@mcswaggermcmuffin69]

"We're the best Huntsmen in Atlas" "You were... Then you trained us." Me: MY GOD THAT COME BACK! Edits: Idk what's interesting, the amount of likes or the comments xD

[@phanta2199]

*Destruction 100*

[@jmcghane]

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[@BlacKingler]

A childish comeback

[@aurorialgaming1935]

@@BlacKingler that was kinda the point, piss her off.

[@ece9108]

BlacKingler I mean Ruby is still technically a child...

[@SerPinkKnight]

3:42 This is a great fight but I think Yang firing off her semlance at the perfect moment and taking what would have been a critical hit into a finish blow is amazing

[@fadedneonzzz9259]

I do wish this fight was a little longer to emphasize how tough the Ace Ops really are, but I’m fine with RWBY winning because they were much closer to one another than them. They were on the same page, while the Ace Ops were conflicted. Also Weiss finally won a fight!!! She’s no longer the team jobber!!

[@KIMIMUSIC]

Weiss could be so powerful with her glyphs, but they didn’t give her any chances until now. I hope we can see more solo Weiss fights in vol8

[@wolfofsummerbreeze]

Weiss didn't just win this fight, she won Ruby's too. Also what about the arial fight and the gigas? She has won others.

[@BrattyRuby687]

wolfofsummerbreeze it’s the first fight she won against another human (Faunus, but same thing.) individual.

[@woopshtbetta]

Weiss is actually the most useful in the team. She’s the best mage and support. Ruby is the weakest lmao

[@BrattyRuby687]

Woop! Sh*t Well Weiss won against Marrow, who was holding back and just trying to arrest Weiss, not kill her, unlike everyone else she’s ever faced (human or Faunus). Ruby was facing Hare (hope I’m spelling that right) who was willing to kill Ruby. Hare wasn’t hesitant, wasn’t holding back, and Ruby was still winning, and just because she’s the youngest member of team RWBY doesn’t just automatically make her the weakest.

[@danielzakgaim2764]

1:09 Rule No.1 of keeping a hostage, don't release the hostage.

[@peterlopez771]

Elm screwed it up for everyone, they would of had the upper hand if she's didn't literally throw away the leverage

[@witcherstudios9351]

It's interesting that all of the Ace Ops lost their fights because they basically ignored the morals of the stories they were based on.

[@gamerbro8399]

If they do teamwork then maybe they would have the upper hand. (Or maybe if Clover was with them)

[@uhltide3]

Two things I love about this fight: The first is that not only did Weiss win a fight on her own, she showed that she could very likely be the most potent combatant in team RWBY, in a general sense. The second thing I love is that you see training vs experience. I'd have to disagree with people that say the Ace Ops have more experience than RWBY; training, certainly, but the Ace Ops haven't been fighting for their lives almost every day for the past couple years. As another commenter said, RWBY does it "Together".

[@Hazoraid]

Fighting for their lives? You don't become a top special operations team out of thin air. It's a safe assumption that they had to put their lives on the line on more than one occasion. Team RWBY have been fighting as huntresses/huntresses-in-training for like 2~ years. ACEOPS should have more than 5 years under their belt. In terms of experience against other aura users, Team RWBY should have had that disadvantage. ACEOPS should have way more experience in that category as well. A good example of amateur vs. pro skill is in My Hero Academia, look at the 1st years vs 3rd? years. You can see the leap solely off of experience. Should have mirrored that.

[@zerocreed8031]

@@Hazoraid the ace ops were also very easy to anger, that was their downfall. Elm and harriet were impulsive, while vein and marrow weren't trying to kill them. There's alot going on in this fight, it's not all directly explained, alot is implied and shown. The ace ops also always had luck on their side because of clover, who wasn't there this time.

[@Hazoraid]

@@zerocreed8031 To that I'd say their emotions and personalities weren't properly introduced to us. Every scene of them before showed us how collected they were, wound tight and following orders like soldiers. When they introduced Winter for the first time, after like a minute of dialogue we had a clear vision of what her personality was; calm and collected at times, but carried herself too pridefully (an air of superiority). When ACEOPS were introduced they didn't show much of that, a little (a very tiny bit) of how Team RWBY was at Beacon. The ACEOPS fight mirrored the Winter v Qrow fight in terms of personalities clashing, except the anger wasn't warranted. There wasn't much trash talk, nor was there much taunting. The anger simply arises because the plot needed it.

[@zerocreed8031]

@@Hazoraid it's their own arrogance. Clover is obviously the strategist and most level headed. This showed us how they act on their own, the fight tells a story but it's hinted. Clover was obviously the glue that held the team together.

[@Hazoraid]

@@zerocreed8031 Yeah but why are they surprising us with it at the end of the volume. The In-fighting came totally out of the left field. If they showed maybe a scene or two of them slightly disgruntled at each other during a fight, it might make some sense. It has also had to be pure frustration with each other and not simply banter.

[@asuna5701]

Seeing Harriet and Elm lose their temper was amusing 😂

[@mason4001]

This is the best RWBY fight i have seen since Volume 3. I'm impressed.

[@TwiKou89]

Ruby out there spitting off that hardcore shade before that fight. "You were, then you trained us!" Man I had to jump forward to catch Harriots face before it hit the floor after that line because Ruby damn sure brought her low. Nearly broke her damn face with that line of fire she threw. Might as well have been tripped up with an anime style face plant after she said it. Ruby I always knew your savagery would come out. The fact that she and Team RWBY pretty much stood combat ready and unafraid of the fight even after Salem sent an image of herself saying she was coming there was pretty much the line being drawn in the sand moment that separated the badass beast that were willing to fight and protect from the cowering pussies running to save themselves and a few. Man wonder how many seasons in we'll be before a final battle or the return of the gods to give their judgements upon humanity. All in all a great season, these babies need to get longer. 😁

[@ShakeyMac18]

That was a beautiful line. Ruby knew exactly what she was doing too; she really got under Harriet's skin, and without Clover there to reign everyone in they let their emotions get the better of them and ending up losing hard.

[@TwiKou89]

ShakeyMac18 that line made me cry laugh. I put the power fist in the air in salute to that line. I was like Ruby releasing prebattle smack talk. I was like thank u whoever wrote that line in there.

[@jadennavarrofilms2377]

I don’t know if you’ve seen chapter 13 but everything you said 😬 ooooooo might wanna rethink that

[@estevan2028]

Yang reintroduced herself in this fight. This was that Season 1-3 Yang I loved so much. She got creative again

[@DD-373]

Ruby: "Then You trained us." To quote Tyrian from Vol. 4 (I believe): "The Rose has thorns!"

[@Anonymous-vf5gj]

In my opinion, this is the best fight this volume. Glad to see team RWBY working together in a battle efficiently just like in the tournament.

[@joshk9226]

Imagine if the Battle of Haven was like this

[@skullninja3439]

Josh K Volume 5 would be much Better

[@crisisdude7439]

Josh K They were so slow paced and pathetic. Vol 5 rwby vs team volume 1 rwby, VOLUME ONE WOULD WIN IN A LANDSLIDEEE

[@rhymenoceros3303]

lack of budget and poor time management will do that. Thank god they were able to restructure and better pace themselves this time.

[@bigfatcarp93]

@@rhymenoceros3303 Yeah, a lot of people heap blame on to Miles and Kerry for V5's issues, but I think it's well telegraphed that it's more about running out of time and money for more script and storyboard drafts, and polished animation.

[@hellkaiser64]

@@bigfatcarp93 don't forget the fact that they stopped doing trailers for V7 while in V5 they made 3...

[@ijusthappenedtonotlikecorn8086]

"Weiss's special ability is to loose every fight." Weiss: Not on my watch!

[@AngeredIrken03]

*Ruby "You're a huntress? Can I have your autograph!?" Rose* to *Ruby "you **_were"_** Rose,* everyone.

[@djmars1983]

We'll see how that holds up in volume eight

[@cosmicmana4197]

This whole season freaking hurt to watch but I loved every moment of it even though my heart got crushed so many times this go round.

[@nissowolf7268]

I just love how during the fight of yang and blake, Elm and Vine really look like a video game boss, with phase 1, 2 and 3

[@kinghero7626]

They putting Spiderman moves on Blake

[@synchrophilia7795]

"My name is Harriet Allen. And I'm the fastest woman alive."

[@prion42]

She just needed someone in her ear saying "run, Harriet, run" and she could have won

[@popcultureenthusiast5587]

"Was."

[@inplane9970]

It's funny how AceOps is a representation of the audience's view of team RWBY in the earlier volumes. Overly reliant on things going to plan, overly reliant on their semblances to the point where they become predictable and tired out from excessive uses, a lot of disagreements, and indecisive.

[@evanrivers3477]

Nothing can stop Team RWBY when they work as one! The Ace-Ops’ inability of teamwork costed them the fight. That’s why working together, heroes will always win

[@Cooljoshua567]

Except you know, Salem.

[@GRIMHOOD99]

Except heroes lost a relic...

[@ethanchoi7036]

@@Cooljoshua567 not to mention that Marrow could have frozen everyone with his semblence in the beginning.

[@megamonkey91]

@@ethanchoi7036 this. like why did he wait and when he froze Weiss why not knock her out with yknow his ranged weapon. Not like she was gonna dodge it

[@evanrivers3477]

Dem Chapped Lips Not always true