Ryan Lashes Out And Kills Mallory | The Boys S4

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

“I have a brilliant idea. I’ll intentionally overwhelm and stress out the most powerful teenager on the planet, that’s definitely gonna end well for me.” Grace probably

[@ennieminymoo6675]

"And if that doesn't work, I can always threaten to lock him up unless he complies. Trust me Butcher this is gonna go so well" Also Grace

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

@@ennieminymoo6675 didn’t even think of the fact that she literally threatened him lol.

[@em4six348]

Mallory so old bro 🙏😭

[@hadlymcmuffin]

It’s just so out of character for her man. I know they needed to give Butcher that development at the end of the episode but wish they did it a little different.

[@Gabris451]

Unless Grace was an actual real Grand-Mother who actually cared for him(In this case Ryan follows his dad's footsteps), Soldier Boy was right afterall

[@variadi]

For a CIA agent, Grace is absolutely unprofessional. Imagine laying all that on a literal child expecting him noto to have an outburst and being overwhelmed

[@brandr7964]

And she had the audacity to call butcher useless assistance in the beginning of the season

[@randomhuman2595]

I think she felt she was didn't have much time. Newman was about to become President and then Mallory would be arrested. She had to get Ryan on her side as soon as possible, causing her to overwhelm Ryan with too much information.

[@kingstarscream320]

CIA agents aren’t hired for their tact and empathy.

[@CastironRibeye]

She panicked.

[@Zinozad]

@@CastironRibeye She didn't panic, she has a soft spot for Ryan, so she didn't do the job the way she was supposed to do it.

[@vojnov9885]

She saw the dialogue options and without reading them started mashing buttons.

[@Mati9319Studio]

The best analogy so far XD

[@AgentPrine]

Ah darn it now my character had died well atleast I still got 4 more characters ahhh moment 😮😮

[@mikewhocheeseharry5292]

Gamer

[@wontonschannel]

she was going for the 100% evil, "wrong choices" run

[@matthewhummel1572]

That’s what happens when you skip all the cutscenes. 😂

[@winterspirit3734]

Grace was acting more like Butcher than Butcher himself.

[@newhybrid101]

Butcher was peak dad till Grace went full woman mode

[@frost083]

Maybe producers got tired of hiring her and wanted to save some money for season 5

[@Bayonettasfav]

​@newhybrid101 If "women mode" is telling the truth and not beating around the bush anymore then I love it

[@newhybrid101]

​@@BayonettasfavIt means getting hysterical. And look where it got her.

[@Risky_roamer1]

​@@newhybrid101tell me you hate women without telling me you hate women:

[@barlevi5683]

the final shot of butcher finally letting go and let kessler consume him is legendary

[@kda3113]

No need for words. They both know it's time to act

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@kda3113 especially because Neuman gave Ryan up to home lander

[@peaklander1]

i had chills!

[@Zinozad]

I'm not sure you know what legendary means.

[@barlevi5683]

@@Zinozad don't cry my child enjoy the show

[@NBSS2809]

Ryan confronting Homelander about Becca in the next season will be one of the most interesting part

[@user-vh2ye5iy1b]

I love that part, it was a stressful scene

[@ceeyuh]

@@user-vh2ye5iy1bnga the next season aint even out yet

[@hadlymcmuffin]

@@user-vh2ye5iy1bBro got early access 💀

[@NBSS2809]

@@user-vh2ye5iy1b true

[@RedKess_]

@@user-vh2ye5iy1b bro had a vision

[@theredxeno1824]

If they had just let Ryan leave willingly, he probably would have come back. They blundered this

[@pigglesgoomshby7249]

Nah just Grace, Butcher was shockingly the more reasonable person in this scene

[@Mr_Triscuit]

He definitely would have come back.

[@jorel4069]

exactly what i've been saying. if they had let him leave he'd most likely have come around, but instead mallory had the bright idea to do ryan EXACTLY as they did homelander

[@Julls567]

​they didnt have time, neuman was about to be president what would mean that butcher and mallory would be arrested, Ryan was their last chance.

[@Xxsorafan]

No Grace shouldn’t have dumped EVERYTHING on to Ryan. He’s a very family oriented person he’s not going to turn on his father so easily

[@JoelKellenProductions]

So Grace has dealt with the likes of Soldier Boy, Lamplighter, and presumably countless other supes, and she really thought backing Homelander’s son into a corner like that would end well? In the words of Tony Stark, not a great plan.

[@No-bi3pb]

Poor screenwriting. S4 is a**

[@DKAllday-h5p]

It felt like they had 7 episodes of filler and bad writing for the last episode. The whole season felt like it was just to make season 5 better

[@Julls567]

She probably crashed out since they had notime

[@godzillazfriction]

​@@DKAllday-h5pyou superficial Drones who criticise against S4 have ZERO... absolutely ZERO independent critical/analytical thinking skills, ZERO comprehensive skills & ZERO outlook's onto different perspectives.

[@DKAllday-h5p]

@@godzillazfrictionRight, because ALL of your opinions and criticisms are the only right ones?

[@Videojunkie99]

The snap wasn’t Grace’s neck, it was Butcher’s heart🥲

[@blaziken12]

But also Grace's neck. And back. And possibly rib cage.

[@Videojunkie99]

@@blaziken12 😂😂😂

[@itsyoboiasu1441]

@@blaziken12I read that in Butcher’s Voice 😂

[@JamaicanMeCrazy]

She was really willing to lock him up in there. She wanted to turn him into homelander

[@newhybrid101]

She didn't want to but it would have.

[@Risky_roamer1]

He literally said he'd give it some thought, kidnapping him was not necessary

[@chilliicecream5456]

Grace, you had one job

[@brandr7964]

And she called butcher useless earlier this season

[@daniela-castro]

yea bro we get it no need to comment the same thing 29392 times ​@@brandr7964

[@CARLWINARDCHOY]

Maybe they can sneak the super virus in homelander beverage or food

[@mitsymittens731]

EXACTLY WTF GRACE💀

[@jalenikezeue4114]

​@@mitsymittens731 do you believe grace was Desperate for a backup plan

[@TheTastyMarmot]

I see Ryan suffers the same case of Terrible Haircut Syndrome as Will Byers did

[@kellyjocelyn8471]

More like Sayain saga gohan

[@Morningstar_512]

😂😂

[@colamity_5000]

They give older teen actors that type of haircut to make them seem younger than they are.

[@genokugel]

It's really not that bad

[@mentos7070]

not even that bad for him

[@a.m.studios6126]

How to NOT deal with a teenage supe in every way...

[@sartexir9285]

They made her weirdly irrationally in this scene. Totally out of character

[@Sh1ryyu]

Ryan is her weakness

[@turtle-ot2qc]

She saw doomsday coming

[@hadlymcmuffin]

I agree. Don’t know how she goes from being so calculated to so irrational.

[@p1te]

@@Sh1ryyu No, it's just lazy writing

[@Ope_The_Great]

Remember that she lived with Ryan for about a year so he reminded her of her grandkids especially the ones she lost to Ryan's dad

[@thecrimsondragonslayer6533]

This seems massively out of character for Grace. It's like they needed someone to make a Butcher level mistake but they couldn’t have Butcher do it.

[@highwind8124]

You can't hang around Homelander that long without him becoming super obvious.

[@mrthanos8140]

It was obvious already. Why would he even want to go back to his dad. Where is he gonna go alone either.

[@BortaMaga]

that's why Ryan ran away from him, but he's still his father. Same reason Ryan's the only one his father has a soft spot on.

[@dewolf123]

​@BortaMaga HL has no soft spot for anyone not even the son which he never wanted or consented to have since he forced Becca to have him 😂

[@danielsmith5032]

“Lashes out?” He was trying to escape a kidnapping 😂

[@javalavadingdong]

This is the exact moment Butcher became Heisenberg

[@soubhagyabhuyan5047]

She just pushed her luck out of the ground

[@cat-.-]

Grace died doing what she loved.

[@hahahaaha7208]

😂Bruh, shout out to Koi

[@davejoey16]

What, flying?

[@elkevinski]

What, crashing into a wall?

[@TheJotaroKujo]

Locking people up lol

[@MichaelHo-lo3fp]

No guys it’s obviously getting your neck snapped by a teenager

[@erenyeager7967]

She shouldve let him go thé moment he said ´I need to think’ she rushed it too much. I thought she was one of thé smartest character of thé séries but i was so wrong lol didn’t they learned with Homelander

[@turtle-ot2qc]

Desperation not stupidity

[@jonathanpilcher337]

To be fair things were looking bleak. I suppose she let her emotions get the better of her

[@gooel]

The writers needed Ryan to do something shocking smh

[@diegoclark7697]

It's just a scratch. I'm sure she'll be fine.

[@brandr7964]

That is not a scratch

[@sebastianchavez2668]

Pretty sure that throw snapped her neck. But what do I know?

[@Dylannuyten]

just give her compound v and she is fine😄

[@eyadahmed2465]

​@@sebastianchavez2668she looks stress-free, thank you ryan 😊

[@NovaBlade926]

She could've just said, ok ill leave you boys to talk it out, see you later ryan, then walk out and shut the door, but naaaaa

[@Lord_Sunqu]

No time. USA was about to be taken over by the supes.

[@metsu-satsu4280]

​@@Lord_Sunqu Doesn't change the fact that trying to imprison Ryan was obviously never going to work

[@RainerOOF]

this situation could've been handled ALOT better

[@brandr7964]

Definitely

[@greenguy270]

A lot*

[@icecooler21]

@@greenguy270hello grammer cap

[@mushra50]

That boy is smart he obviously did his research on that company before he went there because you have to remember he probably was reading some records in eavesdropping on people's conversations how they used to treat his dad and he was not going to go through that s***

[@richardconstante6486]

I think Grcace found out (or at least find a hint) about Sage real plan and knew they were running out of time (which shows to be true with the ending) This was her last chance, i understand why she acted like this, she was truly desperate

[@shreyasingh117]

Does halothane even work on Ryan? Wasn't Soldier Boy vaping Halothane in season 3 when MM tries to take him out? If they can't overpower Homelander, what made her think she can overpower a naturally born Supe with Homelander's powers?

[@iamyourworstnightmare]

Solider boy and Hl are still stronger faster and more durable than Ryan. Ryan hasn't reached his full potential yet.

[@Alrokako]

​@@iamyourworstnightmareConsidering how he reduced Stormfront into what she was I don't see how you figure that an she was on par with both his father and grandfather

[@hombrenan]

It works, Ryan is not as strong as Soldier Boy, and remember that Soldier Boy had been through countless experiments done by the russians, so he developed an immunity because of that

[@khrawbryan]

Well she was being pushy.

[@josiahgonzalez942]

So it's only fair Ryan gets a little pushy back 😂

[@ВладиславВладислав-и4ю]

As all grandmothers

[@kimmmmm871]

​@@josiahgonzalez942 girl naugh 💀💀💀💀💀

[@UrWorstNightmare69420]

Ba dum tss

[@smilingladka]

2:12 that look 😢 he's definitely on Homelander's side.

[@tjsmiley]

No he is not. Dang…

[@winterspirit3734]

No he's not. But here it's understandable. Like what he did those scientists who experimented & tortured him.

[@DavidOrtizIII]

Ryan is on no one's side. He knows what homelander did, and butcher is no longer on his side.

[@jonathanpilcher337]

They're edging that he might turn evil, but he clearly won't

[@CMGThePerson]

The Boys fans try to remember what happened in previous episodes challenge (impossible)

[@EdmundLoh]

Mallory: I can seal us in here, flood the room with halothane, and we all take a nice, long nap. Ryan: nah you can take that nice, long nap yourself

[@akira_veliki]

I am with Ryan on this one

[@KhoiV]

WE ALL are with Ryan with this one

[@L-Lawliet14]

​@@KhoiVNah am with Joe

[@shannonpotato7604]

This feels forced and unpressional of Mallory. The writers wasted her character this season. I was looking forward to her interaction with Soldier Boy when he comes back because they had a bit of a chemistry in the flashback and he's into grandmothers like herself.

[@randomhuman2595]

She was desperate because Homelander was going to take over the country

[@jonbolton491]

It's a sign of laziness to advance plots based on chatacters acting so clearly contrary to common sense.

[@ВладиславВладислав-и4ю]

Well, he's teen. She's a like grandmom. It's realistic

[@jonbolton491]

@@ВладиславВладислав-и4ю It's not realistic for Grace to do what she did to a teenager with the power of Homelander. That's my point. The way she springs the demand on him and within a few short sentences makes it plain to a super-powered teenager that he is basically a prisoner. And let's not forget that he has just been told that his father *r*ped* his mum. This is Grace. She has been working with and against supes for close to 40 years. She is a trained CIA officer. It goes against her character.

[@LPnoa]

Complete agree

[@daniela-castro]

agreed

[@JohnDanielRay1]

Dude Homelander was about to control the entire country, they had no time to let Ryan go think.

[@megaputty1765]

Mallory really pulled a “smartest man alive”

[@sparklecakes3539]

Bro is it just me or was that Negan in the background??😂😂

[@MattMatt-y2v]

exactly where did bro come from 😭

[@needbettername8583]

Butcher being the voice of reason is surprising.

[@alexpowers5117]

She is with her grand kids now so it all worked out pretty well

[@homeless_greg_games]

put some ice on it

[@landonstrong9686]

Take a salt tablet.

[@irishboy325]

When Butcher is the voice of reason in a room you know you’re acting crazy

[@TheSleepSteward]

Yea… What you don’t wanna do is destroy a kid’s world, trap him, deny his exit, threaten him, all whilst trying to appeal to his caring and also logical side. Yea… If ya do all that, all you’re gonna get is anything but thought out plans. And taa daa

[@mycycleminorities]

No way Butcher gives up on Ryan just because of this, especially when Grace made this situation southward

[@damongrimes6096]

You can try to domesticate and tame a tiger all you want but it's still a tiger she should've got out of his way and let him go to think she backed him into a corner and got him scarred it's no surprise he reacted

[@kiyowokiyowo8862]

You ask it Grace you ask for it. And you very much deserve it, Grace. Congrats.

[@KDShaolinMenace]

Grace should've let that boy get some air i mean he said he'd be back. She lucky he didnt laser her.

[@alexnewtron3579]

Unfortunately Grace couldn’t keep the calm when Homelander was almost taking the country... At least Butcher will show no mercy anymore.

[@daniel_the_enlightened1740]

So a special agent, gives in to her emotions. Riiiiiiight.

[@fireblizard8366]

She’s a woman.

[@jayjayag2774]

This wasn’t giving into her emotions. Giving to her emotions would’ve been letting Ryan walk away. The objective was getting Ryan away from Homelander as he was their only viable contingency for him and with how close Homelander was to gaining power over the whole country she was becoming more and more desperate.

[@Zoecoon]

​@@jayjayag2774That doesn't doesn't matter, this was so weirdly out of characther for her that it's nothing but bad writing.

[@jayjayag2774]

@@Zoecoon When has she acted in a way that contradicts her behavior here? Don’t you remember frenchie’s origin when he met Mallory? She was going to incriminate his friends if he didn’t work for her. Sometimes she does questionable stuff to get what she needs if she feels she has no other choice, this is one of those times

[@JohnDanielRay1]

@@Zoecoon It's not out of character, they were out of time and options

[@TwistOfFaithYT]

Soldier boy was doing him a favour lol

[@Mroziukz]

Soldier boy wasn't blinded by personal feelings. He just saw Ryan as another Homelander down the line.

[@MrVanDePol420]

​@@Mroziukzand it turns out he was correct.... kids body count growing fast.

[@spiderrocket8367]

Yeah Grace has no one to blame for herself for this

[@Drewskiboi96]

I loved and hated this. It showed ryan's connection to family being drowned out by homelander's lack of humanity burned into his mind from his evil Influence.

[@henry.-.2183]

Homelander’s influence had nothing to do with this scenario

[@fogyer]

The last piece that it took to break Butcher entirely was this. He has absolutely nothing left. No team, no friends, and no son.

[@konosubashi7976]

You can just tell him to calm don't and beg to talk for like 5 minutes more. Grace Mallory is not really CIA in this, she has no comm skills.

[@10Doomhawk]

Old butcher would of told her to stfu and set ryan straight immediately what is going on.

[@Gamfluent]

Notice how Ryan said he’d be back he just needs to think

[@Brandon-vj6zz]

They could've definitely convinced him to help stop Homelander if they had just appealed to his humanity, but instead they treated him like a beast that needs to be caged.

[@Pwilliams4000]

@@Brandon-vj6zzwho’s they? This was all Mallory

[@henry.-.2183]

@@Pwilliams4000 but now he’s also lost trust in Butcher and Butcher’s given up on him

[@newhybrid101]

My honest reaction if someone said those things to me 2:44

[@DankestSupply]

What? That they’re loved? That’s concerning 💀

[@newhybrid101]

​@@DankestSupplyGrace only said she loved Ryan cause she was trying to control him with love like they did with Homelander It was disgusting. She was written out of character

[@JohnDanielRay1]

@@newhybrid101 She wasn't trying to control him, she was trying to convince him. There's a difference between genuinely caring for someone and emotionally manipulating them.

[@metsu-satsu4280]

​@@JohnDanielRay1And yet, that didn't stop her from threatening him with imprisonment when he clearly felt uncomfortable and begged her to let him out.

[@JohnDanielRay1]

@@metsu-satsu4280 Yeah but she didn't have any other choice, it's not like she liked doing it either.

[@therealmr.incredible3179]

Lash out? LASH out? Ryan was Clear, You had Two Choices: Either Move or BE MOVED. Clearly Mallory chose the Latter.

[@Fernweh1965]

I’m glad this was in the thumbnail as it saves me watching it

[@ねこ-p1b7o]

To be fair he said he will come back and still they pushed too far.

[@grandcanyon-d4d]

Let's be real, Grace had it coming.

[@erenyeager7967]

I mean she got thé most powerfull teenager on Earth in front of her and she really thought it was alright forcing Him? Lol

[@grandcanyon-d4d]

@@erenyeager7967 did you watch season 3? She was a crook

[@RowdyGT]

I feel no sympathy for Grace with the type of work she did for the CIA

[@caelachyt]

Like father, like son.

[@elperro_loko9674]

Bad decision from mallory here she should have known to handle that a better way

[@jesusheals72]

she is with her grandchildren now

[@petrowegynyolc7108]

A character can only ever be so smart as the people who write it, and apparently Grace's S4 writers are total bell-ends.

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

Thats how some adults are in the real world tho

[@superverse8241]

He said he just need to think and he willcome back so its totally her fault or she can just lie that its just to neutralize his father like soldier boy

[@PurpleLite]

This feels so out of character for Grace.

[@Zinozad]

Really ? She's been slacking for a while. Ryan is her surrogate grandson, replacing the ones she lost, it makes sense that she would be such a softie here.

[@Saiahn]

*Butcher will remember that.*

[@Pwilliams4000]

Literally 😂

[@prodigycontrol]

Ryan became insecure because he doesn’t know who he can trust anymore. Homelander and Butcher made it difficult for him to choose. It looks like now only two people can help Ryan find his purpose, Hughie and Annie.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Cant tell if its bad writing or bad characters

[@victorguerra9176]

A little bit of both, but more writing i think

[@tommydevito4105]

One thing I feel like people keep forgetting about Ryan is that the character is 10 years old at this point

[@jeffreyr4560]

Nothing 800 of Motrin and a glass of water won’t fix.

[@p1te]

Lazy writing...

[@lpr5269]

I guess that didn't work out the way she envisioned it.

[@SCP_O5_7]

By giving Ryan no choice in his mind, they are shaping him to be someone that could end up being even more dangerous than Homelander when Ryan gets older. Imagine a Homelander unaffected by wanting to be loved or his ego.

[@rayane5950]

never watch the boys but i guess that this Grace is the dumbest character on this show

[@ItsSoldierBoy]

She was actually badass up until this point , writers are weird

[@yolomojo4763]

​@@ItsSoldierBoyhuh 1 min ago perhaps you can react to me?

[@JEvans-wy9ln]

@@ItsSoldierBoy”badass” characters that dont have a single moment of weakness throughout the series is bad writing. Competent writers understand making your character perfect makes them seem robotic

[@Sh1ryyu]

Arguably the smartest, right behind stan.

[@user-vh2ye5iy1b]

Only for this part of the show

[@doubleace11554]

0:05 - 1:11 - 1:15 - 1:25 - 1:45 - 2:42

[@ManiRezai]

When you realize soldier boy was always right

[@twatik]

Ryan looks so much like goresh😂😂

[@jonathansauceda589]

She's not very smart

[@Xerclipse]

Ryan thats not how you play connect four. You’re not supposed to disconnect four discs.

[@shoumikahmed6373]

Wonder woman: Kal‐El, No. Grace Mallory: Ryan, No.

[@chocolatemami3956]

In other words Butcher needs to apologize to Soldier Boy 😂😂😂😂

[@throwitouttheairlock9556]

Yes what she did was bad, but it’s the bear psychopathic response Ryan had that imo pushed but her off the deep end

[@palo828]

What psychopathic response?

[@BeKe-k7r]

@@palo828when he literally snapped her neck by pushing her into a wall?

[@palo828]

@@BeKe-k7r Yes. While trying to stop her from imprisoning him. That’s not psychopathic. That’s just him protecting himself from unlawful imprisonment.

[@Iucian]

both were in the wrong. sorry becca that kids gotta go next season.

[@victorguerra9176]

😂😂😂

[@ghostlyjudge]

Im so sure mallory would have treated ryan like little homelander

[@PL8TE_LOL]

everyone’s ripping into Grace as if this isn’t the unprofessional side of her talking and the soft side of her talking

[@AgileOnTop]

I dont even know how she survived till season 4 😭

[@florianf2718]

Whats the Song at the end?

[@thepublicpotato3887]

I guess you could she could have handled that more gracefully

[@ofir6868]

So they had super thick walls but one way locking the door? Sure no need for that

[@MaXXXine7985]

Oh Mallory, you really screwed the pooch on this one...

[@zombietaker9936]

I have a feeling Ryan, soldier and home lander will team up and it’ll be butcher that would have to go against them both except Ryan

[@JuliaValenzuela-rl8jv]

Ryan, please don’t do this.

[@CreaturaVioleta]

this whole scene goes massively against the relatively calm and level-headed grace we've seen in previous seasons, and while i could feasibly believe she was just desperate, the fact that we never see her progression from who she was last season to now makes this whole scene feel really weird and abrupt, like reversing a season-long arc at the last moment because the writers didnt want to commit to it or something. i can only believe grace might have had an actual character arc in earlier drafts of the season that was then entirely scrapped besides this moment for whatever reason, because imo its the only reasonable way such an out-of-character moment could have made it into the final show like this

[@justqwertyxyz]

I think Grace will come back in season 5 probably to confront Ryan again and convince him the truth

[@KanderUdon]

Mallory sold. What a disappointing end to a great character

[@poundlandspeedwagonrequiem]

my man ryan really clutched a 3 KDR 😭😭😭

[@JohnDanielRay1]

I honestly wonder what's gonna happen when Butcher meets Ryan again, it seems their relationships strained now so he might be really cold

[@brandr7964]

He would put him down like a rabid dog unless hughie does something to interfere

[@dna1592]

Grace Mallory and Tek Knight had the least violent deaths.

[@Buzzlightyear-j1o]

Yk this would've worked in their favor if Grace showed the Flight 37 video....

[@Anyaesenyan]

one thing. He took down Grace, he should have taken down Butcher too

[@chokey4754]

It wouldnt be a story if people werent making dramatic decisions.