Ryan vs Dorkman

[@yapfloptheunquenched1452]

15 years later and this is still the best lightsaber duel on KZbin

[@JAlanFinch]

16yr now. Still amazing.

[@MrThermo345]

We need a part 3

[@ravensmadhouse]

I'm so happy I'm not the only one searching this video

[@えーる-e4o]

I think so too. 原点にして頂点。

[@evinco6954]

Look at what Corridor crew did!

[@kevindurcant3551]

KZbin was so much simpler back then, just cat videos and Star Wars

[@planetaaronx]

Metro Booming No shit!!! These were the days man.

[@TREVORVADER]

Metro Booming exactly

[@doorkicker9636]

Some mario parodys and 5 stars here and there.. Good ol days

[@Enrico_Palazzo_opera_singer]

meow

[@yaz2928]

Halo and Machinima

[@KFXG]

For something that's fan made, and 11 years old, this is pretty good quality.

[@Savatron]

In your time it would have just been 8 years old...

[@ShaneReuter]

Savatron wait a minute..

[@Supernamek-rh2xv]

Now is 14 years Old like WTF where has Time Go?

[@thegemmydude9145]

Savatron because ryan vs dorkman was made in 2003

[@stevenstandridge2723]

15yrs now

[@pattheman777]

Ryan is in the VFX team credits for The Force Awakens! :D

[@IvanTheGhostboy]

Good for him

[@CaptainCardsworth]

+pattheman777 Brandon Flyte (from Ryan vs. Brandon) did work on TFA too.

[@pattheman777]

Yup, I saw his name on there too!

[@kylejohns2685]

im guessing the ending of the battle was a hint to the force unleashed 2 bad ending.

[@HarvesterYT]

nope this was made in 2003

[@KrizenMedina]

Man, I remember watching this in 2003 and being amazed at how well-choreographed it was, especially considering that they had no formal training. This still puts the majority of lightsaber battles from most Star Wars fan-films to shame.

[@GotCabbage]

Krizen Medina except it was made it 2006

[@KrizenMedina]

RolanticZ Live Nope. I specifically remember watching it in the summer of 2003 on TheForce.net, and later on eBaumsworld; you're thinking it was made in 2006 because that's when it was featured on the front page of KZbin and became viral. From the Wikipedia entry: "Ryan vs. Dorkman, often abbreviated by fans as RvD, is a series of Star Wars fan films, created by Ryan Wieber and Michael "Dorkman" Scott, and first released to the internet on March 1, 2003."

[@andreareeves3193]

Krizen Medina 0

[@wille3573]

Krizen Medina In the beginning the fight was actually like sword fighting used to be, I believe. Although from what I remember the lightsaber fighting in Episode 7 wasn't bad

[@mrgotham3685]

Krizen Medina Revenge of the Sith: “WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!”

[@TheHellsing612]

I love some of the subtle details in this. For example, the entire battle Dorkman is fighting with one hand, almost nonchalantly. But after Ryan punches him and knocks his glasses off, he goes all out and fights with both hands, as if he's finally taking the battle seriously.

[@razzledazzle6032]

The One-handed thing is an actual form used by many strategist Jedis and Siths. Count Dooku is the most famed one who uses that form.

[@cadkls]

He switches from form II to form V

[@silverworksstudios2631]

I'm pretty sure this video started the whole 'Star Wars fan Film' idea, and when it came out, everyone was like "How did these two kids make a better fight than all the original movies...?" 11 years later and it still holds up.

[@timothylewis2527]

Not quite. Back in the day, friend of mine gave me a whole stack of DVDs of TERRIBLE Star Wars fan films (and the Christmas Special). In return, I showed him this. I think he got the better end of the deal.

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

It didn’t start it, but it probably popularized it.

[@bakurasensei]

Damn, I cant believe its been 9 years since this came out.

[@EYRBProductions]

I've watched this vid for years

[@LeagueOfGaming1000]

+Versace Bentley I like the Kendrick cover as your pic

[@bakurasensei]

LeagueOfGaming1000 Thanks man

[@Omnipotentmonkey]

+Versace Bentley it's been way longer than that, this was posted to youtube in 2006 but it's been around on the internet since I Believe either 2002 or 2003

[@sbouchard69]

+Ciaran Smith 2003

[@TheRubbaRazza]

It's 2016, and this is still one of the best fan made light saber duels on KZbin.

[@pillowpants337]

+TheRubbaRazza Agreed.

[@TheDevonFoley]

in my opinion this sets a new bar to duels that I have not see in any of the actual star wars films. all of the fan film duels are just so bad ass the movies can't compete. I believe if you made a fan film you should be hired on as a consultant for the duels just to make them super awesome. but that's just me

[@jac0bthefool]

Today's Star Wars fan films are just toddlers hitting each other with plastic to royalty-free music and poorly edited sound effects.

[@TREVORVADER]

TheRubbaRazza Agreed

[@thatguy5494]

2018

[@julianpina4101]

such fond memories watching these lightsaber duel videos as a child and now here I am 22 years old and I still come back to watch this masterpiece

[@Panda10million]

3:53 The last Jedi: write that down Patrick!

[@muggy87]

10 years old and its still fucking awesome

[@WZPanda]

ye

[@themammoth9051]

mrdrpeper 11 years now.

[@ZeonNewtype]

Rule 1 about guys with glasses: Do NOT hit our glasses. We take it very personally XD.

[@bandicootcollector]

I FOUND IT AFTER ALL THESE YEARS! I AM HOME.

[@TheSlickkEffect123]

Are you serious? All I did was search "real lightsaber fight" and it was the very second video. BOOM. I found it in 2 seconds.

[@alkohnest]

TheSlickkEffect I typed lightsaber duel and bam

[@chriskandfaragaming1592]

@@TheSlickkEffect123 KZbin did a good deed for a great man

[@gangweed3244]

And in case you forgot, here's a reminder.

[@bandicootcollector]

@@gangweed3244 Thank you so much! It really goes to show how much creativity the early days of KZbin birthed. People just made what they wanted and uploaded it, without the fear of being trolled or being called 'cringe'. Hell, sometimes SNS posts can destroy your job and social life. This was mind-blowing back then, but these days anybody can use free video editing software or even AI to achieve a similar effect. It's always so good walking down memory lane. Thank you!

[@truebinx]

5 years after the first time I've seen this, it's still the best Jedi battle yet.

[@bradnewsbear]

Still better choreography than almost all the movie lightsaber duels Edit: ground fighting is so underrated, would love to see more of that out of hollywood

[@ottomanpapyrus9365]

The ground fight was creative.

[@voltingmaster5458]

11 years later and this Video still stands the test of time.

[@declannnl]

Volting Master came out before I was born lol

[@MeesTW]

First KZbin video I've watched.

[@mrhashbrown8283]

You and me both

[@mrfridaynightg1915]

+Mees same

[@MartialKaiju98]

+Mees We all have to start KZbin somewhere, this the video that introduced me to KZbin! :D

[@OriginalAlbert]

Same here

[@MrClassicRobot]

Mees Same

[@xale1231]

I can see Makashi used by Dorkman and Shien/Djem So used by Ryan. It's like Anakin vs Dooku all over again.

[@youngkillas1234]

i thought i was the only that spotted it

[@DimetriKhan]

I feel so nerdy that I got that too :) The Makashi style is easy to spot, but I wasn't so sure if the other was Shien.

[@DimetriKhan]

***** I'd say that it's a mix. Ryan occasionally goes into a very aggressive and brutish two handed stance that resembles V. But he often spins and dances about like IV.

[@RATHORAGE]

***** His striking Soresu's opening stance doesn't help figuring out his style. Also, thanks, if it hadn't been for your videos I wouldn't have gotten into the technical side of Star Wars. Nice to see you commenting on different Star Wars videos, rare to see a popular KZbinr do that.

[@Veloziraptor111]

DimetriKhan The reverse grip is most often associated with Shien, but Dorkman uses that one too in this video. Anyway, I'd say that Ryan's is a mixture of forms IV and V.

[@al3617]

Almost 20 years later and that rolling scene is still one of the coolest things I’ve seen

[@jaredmitchell1777]

14 years later and still one of the best lightsaber duels ever.

[@kn6706]

That moment when a 13 year old KZbin video has better fight choreography and camera work than either The Force Awakens or The Last Jedi...

[@Genpri]

K N stg

[@damkylan3]

"better fight choreography and camera work than all of the fights in the Star Wars movies." Fixed it for you.

[@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003]

Totally agree with ya that fan fic ep7 8 and 9

[@Nodnarb69]

This fight was way more enjoyable than those movies. Omg it’s so annoying to see these dudes from 16 years ago make better lightsaber duels than a billion dollar company

[@jacenwade]

Well someone give this guy his “better than sequel trilogy comment” trophy so he can leave.

[@OldeManGrim]

18 years later, and this is STILL the best lightsaber battle on KZbin. 💯

[@kalmac6255]

I just watched a doc. called Backyard Blockbusters which featured this short. Outstanding. Good effects, cinematography, and choreography. Bravo.

[@look4lec]

They need to hire these guys for Episode 7 if they haven't already. Using minimal effects, these gentlemen choreographed a more dramatic and action filled sequence than the Anakin v Obiwan part 1 in Episode 3. Props bros, as a huge Star Wars fan I can't believe I just saw this, at the behest of Mark Hamill albeit!

[@StrataG93]

yes

[@silvercrescent1264]

I actually like that fight the best, its not sped up, it genuinely feels like they are trying to kill each other, its two force users (super-humans) in their prime dueling to the height of their ability and using all their skills and ability to see the future to try and kill each other. The rage in Anakin and the pain in Obiwan is almost palpable, especially at the end when Obiwan lets his control and mask slip and shows his pain at the loss of his brother, whom he had to just kill (or so he thought as he left a mortally wounded Anakin to die) while reliving the moment he lost his own master. When he says 'Its over Anakin, I have the high ground' that's a callback to the fight in the Phantom Menace, because he should have died, and he knew that. Logically he should have been cut in half by Maul, and he would have relived that moment a thousand times, whenever he had time to think a part of him would see that moment and all the different ways it should have played out and all the different ways he should have died, and no one would be able to pull that move on him because he would have thought of every way he should have died, and therefore every way he should have countered it. It is the best of both worlds for a jedi fight, immensely emotional and beautifully choreographed! This is definitely better than that hot mess in The Last Jedi though.

[@royalelite2996]

They were hired for the force awakens

[@Loreage]

Darth Vader were they actually?

[@tufab3494]

@@Loreage yep, you can find their names in the VFX section of the movie's credits

[@GeorgeSithspawn007]

this was 8 fucking years ago?! HOLLY SHIT I GOT OLD, time truly flies

[@HollowIchigo3D]

I can relate. o-o

[@andrewfrederick1557]

my thoughts exactly

[@Toojool]

whaaaat the fuuuuuuck

[@littleripper312]

lol that freaked me out too when I saw the 2006!

[@kevinjohnson4531]

That was just when this particular video was posted. If you read the comments they say they finished it in March 2003. 11 fucking years ago. You are old.

[@Pedro_Xavier_]

18 years have passed, and this fan film is better than what disney has released in last years

[@davidpaul9965]

Can't believe this is 15 years ago.. one of the first vids I ever watched here

[@sixtovii.3083]

Épico hermano, vamos por viejas arroba el cruz azul y forloko carajo!!

[@loopy_gaming9318]

You know you did a lightsaber duel right when it's exhilarating even though you know who's gonna win.

[@DrachenYT]

Coming back over fourteen years later to what was very likely the first KZbin I ever watched is quite the nostalgic pilgrimage. Even today, this video holds up as incredibly entertaining and pleasant to behold. It fully epitomizes the original purpose of KZbin: a platform made *for the community* to share their creations with the world. Those were better, simpler times. Despite how homogenized and soulless the corporation of KZbin is today, it's truly great how we can go back and watch these old gems that remain cataloged for generations both old and new to enjoy. Time capsules like these are important. They remind us that true talent and genuine production exist at all points in time, hopefully inspiring a bit of optimism that times will always improve.

[@silvercrescent1264]

this is a better choreographed fight than the throne scene in the last jedi

[@CVernRock]

I always come back and rewatch these... Still the best fan made lightsaber duel ever. Hope this has brought you both great success in your lives. MTFBWY.

[@TREVORVADER]

I will always love these videos. Along with all the old Star Wars fan stuff. The fact that it’s been over ten years amazes me. I always wanted to make a Star Wars fan film because of videos like this. Unfortunately I never was able to and probably never will. It’s alright though. At least there’s awesome stuff like this around for me to watch instead

[@GuessWho195]

I remember watching this with my cousin and thinking about how awesome this was...Can't believe it took me this long to decide to go looking for it

[@frenchtoast2319]

Ryan is my cousin. Lol

[@elaiskywalker7862]

Who here in 2024

[@trejohnson4760]

I'm here every year but I will mark 7/20/24

[@SuperHuscarl]

Every year or so I come back to these masterpieces of old KZbin.

[@tankythemagnorite9855]

Same brother.

[@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble]

Ah yes, back in a simpler time when KZbin used to be a creative outlet for artists etc to show an audience what they were capable of.

[@FairlightEx]

This was actually better and more creative than most of the duels in the movies, minus that extremely crappy twist ending.

[@antonnym638]

That "crappy twist ending" that somehow ended up on the silver screen in the last jedi LOL. I'm not defending the ending I just think its really weird.

[@TPKProductions]

Veritable Veritablility dang that is Ironic lol

[@BionicDirector117]

Funnily enough, Ryan Wieber actually worked as an FX artist on The Force Awakens

[@Accel-uu2wz]

This is almost a 20 year old video and still light years better than what Disney can put out these days.

[@Femyoz]

TRUE

[@egriimre]

I have checked this video after kind'o 15 years, and this is still the best ever lightsaber duel. Congratulation! :)

[@MarkHawkCam]

Hey Everyone, Dorkman was the victim in a terrible drunk driving accident last night. While walking back to work from a dinner break, a drunk driver ran the curb and hit Micheal. He is in critical condition and has a long road ahead of him. Our company has setup a GoFundMe page to help pay for the medical costs and offer any support for him we can. Please Donate what you can or share this story. Link will be in the post below this but if it doesn't search @DorkManScott or #SaveDorkman on twitter to find a bunch of support links

[@MarkHawkCam]

www.gofundme.com/fafe9s

[@MarkHawkCam]

Aidan Ballato Before publicly declaring its a scam and hurting the whole charity event, why don't you do some research. Here is the Down in front forum post about it with a link to this cause. friendsinyourhead.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1808 Here is an audio link from them describing what is going on and this charity as well. friendsinyourhead.com/index.php?id=227 And here is the Facebook page setup by them to raise awareness on his condition and charity drive. facebook.com/Supportdorkman?fref=nf

[@almightyxay1977]

***** its real man I just searched it on google. :(

[@zephirol4638]

***** it's legit, and you're a moron. You are only hurting the artist here.

[@xtop23]

MarkHawkCam What's the word on DM?

[@715samiam]

Nearly 14 years and I'm still watching this shit

[@kieranb1306]

My dad showed me this when I was about 4 and I loved it. At the time I didn't know what KZbin was so I always asked him to play the lightsabour video. Memories...

[@enterbalak]

still the best fan lightsaber battle Ive seen on youtube, I even remember the name of this from like even a few years back.. do a crossguard battle guys!

[@DomsBlading]

Saw this video back in my middle school days. So nostalgic.

[@2010ninjaman]

12 years later I still think this is quality

[@retrorygaming]

I used to watch this video as a kid so much. It was a couple years old then. 26 currently.

[@vizioax2]

Angry Joe just sent me here.

[@JeffUK]

Same

[@Ben82077]

Why is it that Ryan and the rest seem to fight in spaces with very expensive equipment in the room? lol.

[@niemampomyslunanickno]

This battle is better than every battle in sequels

[@NateSceneTV]

Word

[@loganmakesvideos8652]

One of these guys worked on the sequels

[@tankythemagnorite9855]

​@@loganmakesvideos8652as an FX artist, should have choreographed the fights.

[@modernblueberry8332]

Years later and this is still better than what Disney can put out.

[@benjaminpeck7200]

17yrs later and still better than the sequels

[@tomi210210210]

16 years on and I still come back occasionally.

[@TheKwachner227]

Damn 15 years ago. Shit I'm old.

[@Skullei]

I remember watching this as a kid. such a nostalgic video.

[@DaWizzurd]

Cant believe its been 18 years

[@SuperFoodgeKing]

Oh my god! I remember watching this when it first came out... :)

[@unucurel]

Who came here after Angry Joe mentioned this video? So something good did come out of the acolyte

[@danielo6567]

Yep!

[@johnmilius3031]

Affirmative.🤖

[@mattpersico518]

Ive seen this video a few years ago when i was looking for something better then Disney 😂but after Joe mentioned it,i came back lol

[@JekplexTV]

The fact that this is better than the lightsaber battles in Acolyte is crazy. Bro, they're not even talking and it's WAY BETTER.

[@josephtraughber8220]

I first watched this in 2010 and I thought it was amazing now I just found it again 14 years later!

[@frostyfire3102]

who's watching in 2016

[@samdiamond7607]

Me

[@carlosnino4864]

Yo!

[@morblitz]

One month later!

[@miraigohansupersaiyan7574]

watching this on Halloween just because I wanted to

[@DreamwalkerFilms]

Try 2017

[@afr_gem]

i had totaly forgot about these guys until angry joe mentioned them! such a nostalgia trip! still way better than the new disney star wars! this is what acolyte could have been XD

[@gi5897]

This gives me so much memories.

[@jamrock719]

Still one of my favorite videos period, you guys are vicious

[@Macho_Paarthurnax]

Wow, you can't tell at all that Michael has taken fencing lessons

[@zztailsMKW]

This was my introduction to the Internet thanks to my Dad. I was shown this vid when I was 3, I'm 20 now lmfao.

[@josephr.8622]

Lmao hell yeah your dad raised you well 💀

[@chrisgonzales8434]

that's hella rad and I like how u guys battled on the floor that was genius

[@cor9815]

I remember watching this video in 2006, I cannot believe I managed to find It again

[@quintonthevillain2745]

So like what, makashi and Shien?

[@cadkls]

And Djem so.

[@guildmastercharlie8881]

Yeah Dorkman was using Makashi

[@demecoshill3354]

I think that Ryan is using a combination of Shien, Soresu and Ataru, whereas Dorkman used Makashi and Shien

[@supersonictime9935]

Omg more star wars nerds yaaaay (No offence;-;)

[@angelicstorm4985]

I know it isn't that big a move but at 1:56 - 1:57 that move where he blocks behind his back then strikes upward always struck me as very smooth.

[@emmanuelcastro8520]

I can't even transition smoothly using Windows Movie Maker...

[@almightyhotdoglady5383]

That's because you can't do shit with Movie Maker. You'll need After Effects and Premiere or Sony Vegas.

[@ShueperDan]

Hey Ryan Wieber and Michael Scott, I just wanted to say thank you for this video. I watched it back in 2006 probably a 100 times and my friends tried to make our own video and quickly learned how hard and how utterly amazing this video really is. Anyway, I've been watching your duels with my 3 year old son, and I still marvel. Amazing work. Also, congratulations on all the success you've been getting lately. I wouldn't really freak out if I met any hollywood celebrity, but if I met the both of you, I would completely freak out.

[@patrickwilburn707]

When dorkman uses two hands the true fight begins

[@Deitz69]

Still one of the best lightsaber plays... EVER!

[@linux750]

This shall become a "KZbin Classic"

[@davalkatro]

This video is STILL one of the best fan made Star Wars videos ever made in my humble opinion. It’s been 15 years and I still come back to watch it.

[@Rutabega_NG]

How have I never seen this?

[@KitariItsSomethingRottenHere]

Now "Dorkman" knows how to display a badass Makashi,

[@conlanvanhook2452]

My fav is Ataru or Atura not for sure, or the one today used, then there is jouy is my sec fav

[@Bent773]

My favorite would have to be juyo because of it's aggressiveness and use of martial arts

[@Ben82077]

Trying to figure out which one I like better.

[@nannesoar]

I have incredible memories of finding this, blew my mind out of the top of my freakin head. Thank you guys ⚡✨💫💥

[@elgestionadordejuegos]

3:52 spoiler rey vs kylo ren? :v

[@WastlandDragon]

Yeah 12 years early.

[@Ninjawarrior1245]

Here from Star Wars Theory!

[@385Nic]

Me too. It’s pretty funny. I’ll give it a like.

[@ayerwick3123]

What’s up to those from @angryjoeshow where Joe referenced this video in the Acolyte ep5 video?

[@WaterYaDune]

This was way ahead of its time

[@jacoblane6175]

15 years and it’s still cool, this mesmerized me as a kid

[@HiopX]

how is an 18 year old youtube video better at fighting choreography than the latest official release?

[@LonelyOcean]

15 years ago...... goddamn.

[@marcossosa5391]

This battle is way better then the moderns starwars series and better than the acolyte

[@stufaos]

Man... it's so funny coming back to this clip... I remember being a kid and watching this... Now I'm a grown ass adult and I came back to it. And it is also kind of funny that this fight choreography is better planed and executed than any fight in the 3 new movies..

[@moron6586]

that swords are from star trek, aren't they?

[@FloraWest]

Heh.

[@Manuel-gr2sv]

No, they're from Stargate

[@Optimusprime240]

***** your next...

[@WingSpurStudios]

***** Wait a minute, you mean they're not from Starcraft?

[@sableghost]

***** I thought they were from Star Search...

[@00WhiteBlade]

So if you can turn your lightsaber on and off whenever you want couldnt you keep your opponents lightsaber from ever turning on? Couldn't you disable blasters and tanks and ships whenever you want?

[@Kingdomkey123678]

It takes quite a bit of concentration to flip a switch that small from Across the room with he force

[@Loogielicker69]

id say its much harder to keep something off with the force than it is to turn something on

[@TheMijman]

+Skaianet Vader can crush a mans windpipe light years away with the force... Even a normal force user would be able to flip a switch 100m away

[@Loogielicker69]

***** 100m away is pretty far. Vader isnt your run of the mill guy, he was pretty much the most powerful guy in the universe.

[@TheMijman]

TheMikedomann Yeah, still though. Lightyears

[@bellalane986]

Most of these comments are really unnecessary... But boys will be boys. Anyway I just wanted to say that I have practiced saber wars with some of my friends, we got our sabers custom made and the barrel detaches from clear tube that holds the light. That's most likely what kind I saber they have so they could make this a lot more realistic In videos. :)

[@MaxFPSGamer]

Mhs based?

[@javiercorrea6120]

Children these days

[@riintankrypt3328]

They say in the desc it was special effects

[@freeh.6581]

KZbin can be pretty hostile.

[@bellalane986]

Rodriguez what the accual fuck?

[@JakeHageman]

I've been watching this video for 14 years or so now. My dad showed it to me at 8 or so. Everytime I come back to it, it's just so dadgum good. Floods me with memories of watching it over and over, and it's just so impressive. Easily the best fan star wars duel on youtube

[@samuelstinson3274]

The new Star Wars: The Last Jedi copies Ryan Vs Dorkman in four moves.

[@samuelstinson3274]

LittleRedRhuari RRR Not sure what you mean. I liked TLJ and RVD.

[@samuelstinson3274]

LittleRedRhuari RRR No worries! I hear you.

[@rushc5]

Thank you, SuperMega

[@vorpalinferno9711]

Who is here after Rise of Skywalker and wants actually good Star Wars content?

[@sweetchildomusicians4621]

It’s 2020 now. The nostalgia hits hard. Seeing how simple KZbin content used to be. And how far we’ve gotten with Star Wars fan film vfx. Now with the Star Wars saga finally over (or so I hope) this choreography still trumps the sequels duels.

[@harrysgirl101]

I don't know the battle of the heroes in Episode III was pretty epic!

[@sweetchildomusicians4621]

LittleRedRhuari RRR doesn’t really make it any better than it was.

[@sweetchildomusicians4621]

LittleRedRhuari RRR alright, that’s fair. I respect and will actually agree with that. Fair point.

[@satan4o]

So this is how they came up with Snoke's death in TLJ.

[@pustulio81]

What's really sad, and awesome simultaneously, is that they did a better job choreographing both of their fights than "Disney" did with Rey, and Kylo Ren lol

[@jacknapier6669]

lightsaber fights are about emotion, not fancy moves

[@pustulio81]

Well, then someone needs to explain that to Disney, because they did a horrible job with their "emotion" choreography lol

[@amcg3237]

I'm gonna have to disagree. Half the strikes didn't look like they had any power or intention to actually hit the other guy in this video, and there were a few too many awkward pauses where the actors had to re position themselves for the fight to continue. That being said, it was very well done for a fight filmed over a few weekends by a couple of amateur guys with no choreography or martial arts experience, and it was very creative, to say the least. Definitely one of the best KZbin fan made fights, but it doesn't even compare to the duel in TFA.

[@pustulio81]

a mcg You're talking about Rey, and Kylo, right? lol

[@dawgtheundying5303]

+pustulio81 Finn and Kylo fight had emotion, weight and was well choreographed. but I hated the Rey vs Kylo fight.

[@Velstrazo]

I came from watching two kids on tik tok have a lightsaber fight and someone in the comments mentioned this

[@seudcube]

Yo wtf same here

[@sliverslv]

yea same ​@@seudcube

[@OghenetegaMowoe]

Yo same here bro😂

[@e-erg-mann3111]

Same

[@Femyoz]

Glad to see a newer generation of Star Wars fans enjoying what we grew up with.

[@herraskanki1756]

Well this is the most best lightsaber duel ever on KZbin. So much clever ideas, really well effected lightsaber, and the fight is so god damn good! RyanVSDorkman will always be the #1