Ryan Whitney Breaks Down The Mike Babcock Airplay Controversy - Full Call

[@MrJayehawk]

Columbus hiring Babcock in the first place is an absolutely unforgivable brain-fart. It was bound to be a total circus and absolutely baffling.

[@christophercharles3169]

Agreed. Columbus deserves everything that comes their way because of this move.

[@aaronrogers8846]

Agreed. He would’ve messed up all the great young talent the Blue Jackets have amassed. I really have to question Kekalainen & Davidson on his hiring in the first place.

[@goaliecoachmike]

Didn’t Rick Nash push for the hiring too?

[@MrJayehawk]

@@goaliecoachmike - I'm not sure, but I certainly question the judgement of anyone who did.

[@fraser281]

And now they get to pay him... (something anyway)

[@Lofi_Dreamer]

Whit is a legendary ranter. Please do not interrupt a legend bud

[@ericksonjustinAK]

Ya he’s a real blowhard that thinks very highly of himself above others. Do not interrupt him.

[@ClarenceJBoddicker1987]

I understand that people don't like Babcock's methods but he is the only undefeated Blue Jackets head coach for a reason.

[@citizenfour5125]

😂

[@Setchcb]

Also never win a game either.

[@HockeyChicStaytiny]

😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍

[@dhit6277]

I'm a Wings fan and the Wings won a cup in spite of Babcock not because of him. Who knows how many cups the Wings would have won if he wasn't the coach. I was so happy when the Leafs took him away from us. The things he did to Commie, Modano and Franzen and many other players are bullshit.

[@shellacbigblack]

Yep, And the ways that the high profile man buries stuff, stuffs it under a rug when the team is winning is just insane. You never heard of those things when we was winning with Detroit. I'm a Wings fan, and was surprised. But It is sad and I agree with you, what could have been.....

[@shawnreems493]

Probably a couple of cups

[@PolarBearPredator]

@@shawnreems493 At least 3. As it was it was 2 as Malkin should have been suspended in game 3 for his starting a fight under 2 minutes in game 2. Wings up 2-0 going back to Detroit. Would have been a quick series but Malkin had a huge game 3 changed the momentum of the series.

[@derekcox6531]

Yep he’s a real scumbag.

[@TheDeepShallow]

Totally right about all that!

[@CC-md9db]

Credit to Biz and Whitney for doing this. If there is even one abusive coach that gets fired bc of this (and it already happened!) then the world is a better place.

[@coastingalong]

it’s a game……… the world is not a better place at all. that’s a very privileged look at how the world works

[@humanbeing2420]

I see two possibilities here: (a) Babcock is so old and weird that he truly had no idea that in this day and age, many players' photo rolls are likely to contain, in addition to pics of family and pets, some innocent but still embarrassing material no player would willingly share; OR (b) Babcock knows that many players' photo rolls are likely to contain embarrassing material no player would willingly share, and he wanted to know which guys had such material on their phones. Either way, it's dysfunctional and bizarre conduct.

[@Phantus00]

Lol, I first thought, man, Ray Whitney is really fired up for a mild mannered fella. Then I realized it was Ryan Whitney and it all made sense. Love the fire brother.

[@davidhaworth7152]

Same haha

[@richardsiemion5903]

Wow I thought I was alone 😂🤣

[@user-zb7tg5hi3t]

Blue jackets need to fire the GM. Dumb move hiring Babcock.

[@myquest666420]

Jarmo’s a genius. Bad move, but I wouldn’t let him walk. I miss having him in STL.

[@jamesfranchuk4396]

I seriously love Whit and Biz.

[@savage1254]

I really don’t think these guys are Bitches like you said!!! These are to guys that played at the highest of the elites in the world, and never seen one of these dudes back down from anything!! Would love to see whoever wrote that drop the mitts with any of either of those guys, you would get speed bagged instantly

[@mr.brenman2132]

​@@stanleyfranks9891Lol you're crying like a women. He just wanted to get to know them and that's why he's resigning? I guess he lost his stones then. The Bluejackets wouldn't have hired him if they weren't behind him. Obviously it didn't have to do with getting to know players.

[@michaelb369]

@@stanleyfranks9891ur a joke

[@user-zb7tg5hi3t]

Butt hurt?

[@jamesfranchuk4396]

If you actually believe Babcock’s intent was solely to see pics you’re super naive. There’s enough stories from players to refute this.

[@csnide6702]

The way Babcock treated Mike Modano in Detroit was unforgivable.

[@WaitAMinute1989]

Agreed, I was saying this about Nazim Kari in Toronto

[@Gastly_Ghost]

The player that comes to my mind as a big Detroit fan would be Mule or Johan Franzen Babcock did him real dirty.

[@csnide6702]

@@Gastly_Ghost yup... Franzen to this day says Babcock is the worst person he ever met.

[@dakotaslim]

@@csnide6702 Commodore said the same.

[@bobbydrex5268]

Actual genuine great sports talk radio this segment here

[@johnschober1819]

What's on my phone isn't anybody's business. As a Redwings fan this pisses me off immensely

[@professordogwood8985]

These guys are literally "journalism bros". Whitney may not be articulate in the professional sense but they actually did their homework and showed it. That is much more than what we're getting in other places.

[@squig808]

They have credibility & integrity. They also admit their mistakes, apologize, and right any wrongs on a regular basis. During COVID in particular they corrected some of their wrong/bad takes in a very open & honest manner.

[@christophercarrigg3775]

Babs is similar to Torts except in the fact that Torts actually respects his players and his players love him usually

[@user-ww8nz5oo2l]

Bad comparison. Torts is nothing like babs. He actually coaches on the bench. Babs doesn't do shit lmfao

[@MrGG1959]

Babcock was not just a problem in Toronto. He was also a problem in Detroit as well.

[@axe2grind244]

Leo Carlson is extremely relieved how the draft went.

[@18laxX]

Fr bro dodged a huge bullet. Poor Fantilli

[@axe2grind244]

@@18laxX That was a close one lol.

[@calebkent6706]

@@18laxX@axe2grind244 i agree but luckily they fired yesterday so fantilli dodged a bullet

[@18laxX]

@@calebkent6706 I would be worried about playing for a front office that hired babcock. Bad vibes over there in cbus. That Severson contract was shocking. Their best 2 players are defense-optional wingers. I like the future in Anaheim better, especially with a guy like Verbeek at the helm. Not a fan of either team but it’s plain to see that Anaheim is building the right way.

[@06rtm]

Babcock seems to have an issue understanding the difference between public and private matters. Its ironic that he is now exposed by a player making a private team matter public. Its his own flaw being used against him.

[@douglasjankey7580]

Blue Jackets got a gift from the hockey gods by getting rid of the biggest jackass. The other concern is why would they go with such a loser ? I have to question their head office decision makers. Good work BizNasty for finishing off Babcock……he’s last name is spot on.

[@doinitforfun888]

Ian white interview on Babcock it's on KZbin. The same thing happened the way he was treated.

[@barktwid]

I talked to a UofS Huskys player over the summer, before any of this came out. The young guy told me that everything bad you've ever heard about Babcock is true.

[@patrickkeenan8109]

This is right up there with … Alan Eagelson, f’ Mike Babcock and his hair.

[@matthewraco3691]

My sources say Babcock is currently working on signing in the KHL.

[@calebkent6706]

Whose here after he got fired 😂

[@Disconnected37474]

They looked thrilled to have barstool radio back

[@sucraf1]

Hearing what Chelios said and Franzen saying he's the worst person I ever met, might just be a sign to stay far far away from this guy? But I still don't understand why a man let alone a hockey player would let anyone, even a coach talk like that to you. I would of knocked him out. And if Babcock cried to anyone about it, I would of exposed him. LOL.

[@SteveSacrob]

Fear of reprisal.

[@Greatshamefamiry]

As a Sens fan…I’m happy that my org is no longer the worst run and the laughing stock of the league

[@jimbrown5070]

Nah...it still is

[@Greatshamefamiry]

@@jimbrown5070 says the guy with a username Jim Brown…I suppose you must know what being a fan of a terrible organization looks like.

[@jimbrown5070]

@@Greatshamefamiry nah...we won the championship in '65. Then Modell bought us.

[@Greatshamefamiry]

@@jimbrown5070 wow you don’t even know your history right…the Browns have never won a Super Bowl, and only won the pre AFL-NFL merger NFL championship 4 times (50,54,55,64)…the Ottawa Senators have won the Stanley Cup 11 times…go count those rings up while you watch a sexual predator be the QB of your team…what a disgrace

[@grangerjung4129]

It would be interesting to know how the university players he coached felt about him. Hope he didn't ruin any careers.

[@MX76er]

You just know he was bullying someone at all times, it’s who he is.

[@seastorm07]

I’m also curious if/when we hear from players when he was coaching in the WHL. Side note, Babcock and Bill Peters both coached for the Spokane Chiefs (WHL). While obviously successful record-wise, both are now disgraced ex-NHL coaches. Bizarre.

[@Nxrthluvsyou]

The new SDPN pod talks bout it and his time there a little bit

[@STROKEnDISTANCE]

It’s hard enough being a Blue Jackets fan as it is, now we get “him”!? 👎🏼

[@gregorsmith]

It must’ve not been that hard in 19. That was a great team.

[@david3224]

He asked to go through the pictures on the players phone? Do NHL teams provide players phones? If not how is that even legal?

[@doinitforfun888]

Even listen to the Jay Rosehill podcast,he talked to people at University of Saskatchewan while babs was head coach.

[@wadestewart5504]

Seems to me the players need to stand up for themselves and punch a bully coach in the face....

[@Shivavishnubrahma]

Babcock Ego got the beat of him

[@superwavess]

Random guy on right interrupts and is like "..BIZ... " and then asks Whit a pointless question

[@colinmc2945]

1. Babcock only winning one cup with that wings team was criminal 2. Wings hosed a lot of players by giving him that platform where anyone would succeed and be given more opportunities

[@realeyesrealizereallies1194]

To be fair, the penguins were a huge reason they didn't win 2.

[@daynasafranek7807]

The irony that such an offense coach is so concerned with who is playing for him and their integrity is not lost on me. I’m glad that Whit and Biz brought this out into the open. If he’s doing it; he’s doing it. There’s no way around that and he can ask to see it, but it’s their right to say “No”, without any repercussions.

[@24theMoney]

Pearson Airport! LOL

[@FirstStrikeTennis]

What did he say about Randy Carlyle? I couldn't understand...is he saying he was a good coach or bad?

[@dangermartin69]

Bad.

[@ugiswrong]

Babcock should work for an intelligence agency

[@chrisfowler4953]

Biz Nasty vs Babcock

[@michaelb369]

@BobsUruncle-dl7csBabcock’s a joke

[@robertm4919]

When you have people say "the story is BS", but won't state their name in an Org....well they are for the Org, not the people (players). It's HR in a company...they aren't there for the employees they are there to prevent employee to company lawsuits.

[@chrisfowler4953]

Pink Whitney saying it how it is

[@dmcdmc]

at 6:00 buddy called whit biz 😂

[@thepizzalife1207]

Babcock is our generation's Eddie Shore

[@trainfire2008]

Shore said to Don cherry: “BEND YOUR KNEES, MADAGASCAR‼️” One has to wonder what Babcock was saying to his players…… 🤦‍♂️😔

[@Jrobert619]

So what happened ?

[@derekwhite7829]

Mike Babcock, the coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets, was calling players into his office for meetings to get to know the players. During the meetings he was having the players link up their phones to the TV and show the pictures that are in their phone.

[@seancccccccc]

Very strange request as he probably observed some private photos of spouses without prior warning. The players probably believed they’d either could lose their privacy at the time or their long term ice time/living… Not a good look at all. Interested to see if the PA addresses this…

[@bananian]

Goes on a first date. *Give me your phone so I can know you better*

[@jacyfisher6170]

boston fan takes first chance possible to make it about the bruins, instead of having an opinion or question about the situation.

[@alecmorariu6291]

Gaudreau took such an L

[@jayjayson9613]

No he didn't. Babcock is a bully, he doesn't target established guys, he goes after young players and older guys towards the end of their careers. He feels more powerful as he can affect them more. Gaudreau got himself a fat contract, Babcock couldn't f with him. Jenner is the captain and the NHLPA Rep for the Jackets. Babcock, the bully that he is knows that and with Gaudreau and Jenner, he probably came off like a decent human being having to fake it I'm sure.

[@connorharadine8617]

As a Wings fan, he should’ve won another cup with Detroit. I blame him for only one. That team was nasty.

[@realeyesrealizereallies1194]

Pittsburgh would have won that year regardless of who your coach was

[@brdphl]

Columbus hiring him was unforgivable. That’s why they burned the whole management team down

[@professordogwood8985]

I'd love to see these guys get an 'Edward R. Murrow' Award for their work. Who said there aren't any balls in hockey!

[@ianhowarth2656]

These guys aren’t anywhere near the level and quality of Murrow. Try someone more “sporty.”

[@professordogwood8985]

@@ianhowarth2656 True, but no other journalist today seems to be at the level of these guys.

[@michaelduggan1890]

Why did Mike Modano allow himself to be treated like that for so long ?

[@zigfield723]

Biz and Whit got his ass fired and cancelled for good 😂

[@lakes26mi]

kinda surprised that Columbus hired Babcock, but then again it's Columbus, Ohio, so not the brightest people. As a wings fan, glad he's not here anymore. He doesn't treat people right, just seems like he doesn't have people skills.

[@moonobservergilles5730]

calgary flames also had a problem of old way thinking. Babcock was a bad decision to hire in the first place. sorry those who put Babcock as head coach '' boobooed'' That process of fireing Babcock would not have been necessary if the head coach would have been logically chosen. The new coach has good credentials. Lets hope things work out fine from here.

[@crankybastid2197]

Life, not just hockey is like that. The "Carousel" is everywhere, TV, careers, management. I call it trash recycling, same shit different day or place. Media has to be the worst.

[@markspindler6706]

So you guys are pulling a Jeremy Roenick on Babcock?

[@michaelb369]

Babcock’s a joke

[@kylekarnik8013]

A successful joke

[@andymcgram7643]

Sounds like something they could of easily just said no to.

[@MotaDhesi]

Has a coach ever been hired and fired before even coaching a single game?

[@timw4369]

it was a friend of a buddy who might have known someone on the team? Really and thats a very trusted source? Really

[@koozeronenine6971]

The babcock defenders are fucking hilarious thanks for the laughs boys

[@gixxerrider2825]

Columbus knew what they were doing. needed to get in the headlines and now they are, mission accomplished.

[@letsssgooo4618]

Does the team who hired him not have a star player who has enough cache to say something?

[@georgeblair3894]

Spittin Chiclets > Hockey Legacy Media

[@realtalk5931]

Clb doesn’t have the cash to payout Babs and hire another coach. Factor

[@ianhowarth2656]

Furthermore, do these guys get paid for this? Is that why none of them are wearing socks?

[@robbstreet9722]

Darryl Sutter was the same as Babcock.

[@whyimsmarterthanyou]

Americans talkin' hockey is like watching remedial student government.

[@MichaelPeters-q7f]

I compare Mike Babcock to my toe jam. Don't need anymore.

[@user-zt1ym7zc7p]

Don’t mention the player by name and then say he’s the team captain. Sneak 100

[@ridebmx24seven]

LOL, a lil slow huh. Different players, different parts of the story.

[@joeq.public281]

Columbus didn't think to at least Google Babcock? What a Mickey Mouse organization.😂

[@billmcnally1011]

He had the greatest Team Canada ever assembled but wanted them to play like the New Jersey Devils. Amazing offense, but no lets win 2-1 games. I could have done a better job of coaching them. They won the gold despite him.

[@EuroGuy85]

holy crap, whit is mad

[@savage1254]

I’m 49 years old, played hockey since I was probably 4 years old! Played OHL, in Europe, obviously not at the level these guys (. Whitney, Commadore, etc) played, but understand the game, been coached by some elite coaches ( Maurice, Debor)! These tactics or mind games Babcock uses sound pretty stupid and don’t seem project that team brotherhood you need to be successful, but (and not defending him at all) he does seem to be a very successful coach. And I greatly respect guys like Ray Whitney, Bissonette, etc, because I know how fuckin hard it is to make it to that level. People don’t realize how difficult it is to make it to NHL and even harder to stay and have a career as long as these guys did. But (I could be wrong) Babcock is a very successful coach, am I wrong??

[@billycao1605]

Wtf are you saying?

[@simonpoortz5298]

Please don't comment ever again

[@andybob1955]

Should have spent a bit more time in school instead of on the ice it seems lol

[@innova4366]

He had a lot of success as a coach. He had good teams and he knows the game very well, which is why he was given a 2nd chance with CBJ. However, these other techniques he uses are very problematic and have led to his current jobless position.

[@ericvanljackwax1982]

i love ryan whitney lololol

[@jordanmolinaro6507]

Whit gave this interview from the inside of a washing machine

[@JosePerez-db3cv]

Ohio is definitely a shitshow 😭😭

[@philhamilton8731]

And you know how?

[@jeffbridges9871]

Is their just a lack of high level coach's in hockey? Why do the same 10 coach's keep getting jobs

[@lakes26mi]

Wtf are these coaches thinking, I wonder how people Like this even get into a position of a head coach. Makes you wonder how low of values GMs, Presidents, team owners have

[@brianbenoit6883]

I can't believe that Babcock would have the audacity to ensure that his players aren't sharing inappropriate pictures of young women or sending 'dick pics' in this age of scrutiny.

[@stefanchristensen2271]

#firebabcock

[@romankrhounek5974]

Whit is a great ranter he's as good as Michael Rapaport

[@ohnojoe1076]

The star players have called BS on the allegation. They carry weight. That said, the PA needs to talk to each player to find out what really happened and then file a grievance if necessary. It’s pretty simple. We don’t want to hear about Babcock past as the league has allowed him to coach again so deal with the allegation in Columbus. This falls to the PA (Players Association) to do their job.

[@KyleMacSkill]

No they don't lol if you knew how corporations work you would know the PR team has been all over them going over what statements to make. I trust the chiclets sources far more because they are friends with half the league and players will contact them with far less of the agenda then people who work for the blue jackets publicly

[@templetonbob]

Turns out it was true.

[@ohnojoe1076]

@@templetonbob Looks like the PA did their job.

[@joeydrakeward4077]

Here’s the thing in my opinion. Ryan Whitney is right, the situation is a stain on the Jackets organization but an entire podcast was able to take down a scumbag coach but also detail an entire organization’s plans for the season. Like, if the players know something is up with Babcock, how are you not handling this internally? You’re gonna run to spitting Chiclets and fight your battle for you? Like, they’ll be another scum bag coach one day bud don’t worry, Ray Whitney and Bizz Nasty will handle it for you! If I’m any organization, I’m not wanting my players talking to them.

[@mvgamer9637]

Chances are these pictures already posted on some social media site. It's not like Babcock couldn't just go there to find them

[@JaneNayes]

No. Probably only about 50% of photos on people's phones would be uploaded to social media.

[@FredZiffel-m9v]

The mean man wanted to look at my family pictures. Oooooooo!

[@709mash]

Then why have multiple other players tell Biz it was way worse than that? Why is the NHLPA there to investigate (they NEVER do that)? It seems like it's way more than just sharing family photos.

[@tammybolger2634]

Shame on the NHL

[@stretchstretch9112]

Lol awesome

[@ErikVOfficial]

assuming the narrative being peddled by some retired players that never played for Babcock is in any bit correct; Brendan Shanahan had to put up with all these interpersonal conflicts, bullying and apparently watching Franzen be attacked at the hands of Babcock for at least a season, then goes on to hire Babcock to maybe the largest nhl coaching contract ever at the time, backing this up by saying how great he is as a coach.

[@MikeSimpson81]

Asking to see photos of a family is at worst a misdemeanour, in fact, you knew the person had a "family" and they were happy to share with you. Where it gets bad is when a player might be uncomfortable sharing. For example, what if a player was gay and keeping it a secret? I'm sure he doesn't want to scroll through his phone with a guy he just met/hockey coach. That's probably not his first choice for baring his soul. The guys that decline in the eyes of Babcock then could be "hiding something", "not living right" or "not good family men" (those are his go-to lines). They then could draw his ire and go into his doghouse. In any event, it tells me that he believes his values are the ones everyone should have (ego) and hasn't grasped that things are different in 2023. I don't know that he will/should be fired. But his tactics for handling people are clearly off the mark. Frankie Corrado seems like a really nice dude and he says that there's no doubt Babcock is a great hockey coach, but his methods for dealing with human beings are lacking.

[@rileystone3017]

I dont think its that deep... I think hes just an old-school coach. old-school = demanding and controlling

[@mr.brenman2132]

​@BobsUruncle-dl7csWhy did he resign?

[@KyleMacSkill]

@BobsUruncle-dl7cs actually that's exactly what he did. Went through a players' phone unfettered for "several minutes" according to the reports dumbass 😂😂

[@andrewpellet6971]

@BobsUruncle-dl7cs perhaps some of you brain rotted boomers can check out what people like Chelios, Lidstrom, Modano, Franzen or Spezza thought of him. Or are they also entitled millenials compared to you?

[@DDL-n2u]

@BobsUruncle-dl7csAsking at all in front of your peers is fucking ridiculous. It’s inappropriate in a work environment. You’d do this at work? Be fine with say an executive in a meeting pressuring you to do it? No. That’s absurd

[@brdphl]

Mike Babcock needs to see a psychiatrist

[@savim1883]

this ruined columbus season next year we will be a playoff team

[@letsssgooo4618]

Yeah but mentioning the dudes name is terrible. That’s were these podcasters not having any media education shows true lol

[@brdphl]

Completely mental

[@yancyjones5104]

Pretty soon the player's will be able to eliminate bag skates after poor performances...just say no. Im not doing it 😂

[@EattheApple666]

You realize your boss does not have a right to know what you do on your personal time?

[@jfboulianne5926]

Guy on the far right had crazy cameltoe lol

[@whitec59]

It's a Moose Knuckle! Not a camel toe haha

[@yoholmes273]

I miss Babcock already!

[@DDL-n2u]

You’re the only one he’s a clown

[@joestrunk9663]

nobody wanted Babs .you sold out blue jackets players now they have to deal with this for the rest of the careers . there was a better way to deal with this . Puck you Ryan and Puck Biz too

[@Disconnected37474]

Lively cast

[@thomasbeleskey133]

The worst part is U of S will hire him again! He's never gotten anywhere by himself he got the red wings from BOWMAN!!! Team Canada lol a CHIMP can win with that handed to them😅

[@forestg1743]

Looks like Minihane has a belly ache