Ryanair 737 MAX Incident: A High-Speed Nose-Down Go-Round At London Stansted

[@stevenlennie]

Ryanair charges extra for this type of excitement on your flight.

[@akilghosh]

😂 entertainment fee

[@rc70ys]

Inflight Entertainment

[@MatthiasKubik]

Funeral included

[@wv_]

Practicing to beat Flight 4102’s record for the hardest Ryanair landing

[@rbghks369]

Passengers must have been horrified thinking the last occasion.😢

[@p6x2]

I think you wanted to say terrified!

[@Jezusbeznogi]

@@p6x2 Let's agree on "petrified" :)

[@d.b.cooper1]

I doubt they even noticed as if they did we would’ve found out sooner not a year later

[@heresjohnny999]

They wouldn’t even have realised

[@johnnys7338]

​@@heresjohnny999I think anyone would notice dropping 1,200ft in 11 seconds, especially when your typical airliner would generally descend at a rate of about 2,000ft/min!

[@handarupratomo3834]

Honda driver be like "VTEC kickin' yo!" While 737 Max pilot be like "MCAS kickin' yo!"

[@bigvaxmeanie925]

Darn. The accountants didnt fix the plane again

[@lollol-ew6hb]

the hospitality staff prob doing it to save money

[@brkitdwn]

2:40

[@lollol-ew6hb]

@@brkitdwn ?

[@gottfriedheumesser1994]

They are managers and therefore they cannot work!

[@choco8850]

Using your ears challange: impossible

[@eddy66t6]

O'Leary probably tried to charge all the passengers deboarding for the free rollercoaster ride they got.

[@Oetti]

This channel is SO MUCH BETTER than Dj Aviation. A perfect example of a relatively simple formula, yet executed SO much better. Love these videos

[@mravecsk1]

This why I appreciate Mentours pilot content... No nonsense speculation.

[@Burzilman]

Couldn't agree more!!

[@hazikaiyan5903]

but he just yaps like crazy to increase video time

[@BubblesTheCat1]

He works for Ryanair, so I wonder if he knows what happened? MCAS=May Crash Anytime Soon 🤭

[@d.b.cooper1]

But you often have to wait 2+ years as he only does them after the final report. Channels like this report the current news in 3 mins videos

[@Bartaaron04]

@@BubblesTheCat1he doesn’t work for them anymore, he’s focusing on his channel and other stuff

[@ThisisDevaan]

It makes sense why these maxes are being federally investigated in the U.S.

[@brkitdwn]

2:40

[@choco8850]

Using your ears challange: Impossible

[@ictoan]

no way you are just realizing now

[@sgbuses]

When I view Boeing MAX related videos, I get recommendations about cave diving on the same page. Even YT is convinced taking a MAX is just up there with doing an extreme sport. 😂😂

[@Supernaut2000]

Big deal...Aerosucre does this all the time on all their planes. It saves fuel said Miguel.

[@stephen46xre86]

I'm not MAXing anytime.

[@robertbate5790]

Curious to know why it has taken so long to come to the attention of AAIB.

[@dieseldragon6756]

The Tories wanted to sell-off their holdings in Boeing first... 💰🇬🇧💩

[@jeff92k7]

If it were truly pilot error, then why was the plane taken out of service for two days?

[@l0z586]

probably for inspection to make sure no parts were damaged

[@Tpavra]

To have it inspected fully to be 100% certain. Its better to be safe than sorry!

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

Probably because of the G's pulled

[@westhavenor9513]

To have the seat cushion bottoms cleaned

[@ChristopherBurtraw]

They probably didn't know it was pilot error right away man

[@extra330LT]

Props to the pilots for acting fast in this situation and not letting panic rush in 👏👏👏

[@darylp9306]

Wow. Belated news? Why just now if this happened way back December, 2023? Is someone trying to hide this news from exploding again? Beyond me why airlines still purchase or have this plane in their inventory!

[@gnappibr]

MAX = CURSE!!! 😮

[@cologne0017]

It’s the same plane I flew on two years ago from Rabat to Charleroi. It feels terrifying that a plane I was on was in an incident. 😮 How terrifying must that be for the passengers?! 🥴

[@TheFULLMETALCHEF]

Ya had me at Max

[@trueriver1950]

Please keep to the standard units for air investigations. They are feet (or flight levels) for altitude, knots for speed, and miles (nautical miles) for distances. As a physicist, I would normally work in SI units, but in a field where there are well established units it's easier to stick to the standard units for that field than to clutter the narrative with alternate units. But... If you persist in giving sprouts in metres as well as in feet, please be sensible about the precision. All the altitudes were in round numbers of feet, so it is incorrect to quote fractions of metres for the metric equivalents.

[@mrvwbug4423]

If it isn't MCAS related, then my suspicion would be they hit wind shear, which also might explain the go around, if they were encountering wind shear on the approach.

[@Aviation.patrick]

It’s a scary reminder. However, there are as well quality issues which were reported on the cable beams in the wing. Causing mail functions on the brake flaps, if I remember correctly

[@vincent412l7]

Don't you think that if it was MCAS, then the pilot and RyanAit would have jumped at that to avoid the blame?

[@EannaButler]

Nah, they won’t want to blame the plane, it would freak future passengers, as it will suggest that pilots are not in control.

[@cheefcambermusic2225]

No because they have an all 737 fleet, all NG’s are supposed to be replaced with Max’s. If MCAS is the problem, and it becomes public again… they will lose their reputation.

[@CaptainGoldberg]

All altitudes are in feet. Maybejust list the metric on screen?

[@rais1953]

Most viewers don't think in feet. The metres are helpful to most of us.

[@CaptainGoldberg]

@@rais1953 Of course. That's why I suggested speaking in feet and putting meters on the screen. Could do it vice versa, speak the meters and put feet in the screen. It's very busy to hear both every single time. 😃😀

[@ChannelHypermach]

Man the newspaper will immediately blame Boeing on this one.

[@foobarf8766]

I think there's a mistake the flaps would be deployed to 5 at the time of go around?

[@orlandocfi]

The flaps would be retracted initially to 15, then 5, 1, and up.

[@mrvwbug4423]

@@orlandocfi depends on how far into the approach they were at the time of the go around, 737s extend their flaps pretty late in the approach, sometimes only on flaps 1 or 5 when they hit the glideslope intercept point.

[@karlp8484]

"Nothing to see here. " Plane grounded for two days.

[@Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer]

The 737 MAX is the daredevil travelers choice of 21st century.

[@cskvision]

Not even Evel Knievel would dare fly on the MAX

[@bonbondesel]

- Ryanair First Officer flying the plane: "our rate of descent is too high, we're going around !" - The experienced Ryanair Captain next to him: "rate of descent too what ? I have controls !"

[@Danger_mouse]

Given Boeing's troubles, I don't fly on ANY Max series aircraft. If I find a Max is scheduled for a flight I'm booked on, I change to a different flight / carrier.

[@robinwells8879]

Alarming! The Ryanair flight crews can be young and relatively inexperienced but this seeming lack of competence is hard to justify and the grounding tends to indicate a lack of confidence in the particular plane. 😮

[@frank_av8tor]

What did the pilot report to ATC? There's probably a recording of ATC coms for this flight available.

[@MHG62]

That was a load of info, and yet the map of its fightpath was very poor. I couldn't even locate the airport, London Stanfield on that map.

[@wton]

These 737 MAX are beyond doomed.

[@p6x2]

Let's not forget that none of the 737 have the additional cockpit pilot warning safety systems.

[@Davidd_nh]

what are you talking about

[@lgerigk]

@@Davidd_nhprobably the EICAS which is missing on the 737, but I doubt this contributed to this incident.

[@milney81]

Yeah.. no idea what you’re talking about here. It has EGPWS which would be really the only thing I can think of that you’re talking about

[@danielkaufmann15]

Nice to see, that all my comments are deleted. I have no clue why, I was respectful and kind. I Guess the owner of the Chanel doesn't like too much criticism at Boeing.

[@SimpleFlyingNews]

Hi Daniel, we’ve just spent the last two days approving thousands of comments that were “held for review” by KZbin - and most of them were respectful as you described for your own. It’s quite a mystery why this has happened. Thanks for engaging with our videos- we don’t know what’s going on with our account and KZbin comments being held.

[@danielkaufmann15]

Thank you for your kind response. 😊. I hope you can solve the problem.

[@airvlad777]

Scary.

[@SimonDanson]

As a complete amateur flying little airplanes I have flown higher than I wanted. I simply pointed nose down gently, reduced power and corrected trim (not forgetting carb heat.) Is it possible to stall a descending 737max? Gravity still applies to them as it does to us. The pilots must be frightened of something not to reduce power. Perhaps they had 'get there itis'! Do you forget what you are taught on little airplanes when you turn professional? Perhaps something was sticking so they couldn't reduce power.

[@rogeryscankill962]

If you are on a 737 max, the MCAS attacks.

[@timex513]

Was there an in-flight announcement that said good bye Mr bond beforehand?

[@Moo2oob]

I don't think an Airbus would have let the pilots do this.

[@krusty1974]

My perspective. The best safety device in any aircraft is a well trained pilot. These days just a pilot would do even poorly trained. Unfortunately what we have are clowns instead. And that’s an industry clear choice not a mistake.

[@tonamg53]

They descended 1200 ft in 11 seconds. Typical descend rate is 1,000 ft *per minute* Who ever commented that the pilot just climb too high and descent too low is an idiot. That is not a usual descent rate in a typical flight. Passenger’s butt wouldn’t be touching the seats.

[@gabrielfinneran3611]

You're telling me the software fix for a hardware problem doesn't work?

[@theweekthatis]

So, you’ll be wanting the rollercoaster?

[@9Y-Aviation]

I saw the title and Steupsed lol

[@blip-hn6is]

thats alot of feets.

[@vannyboxadventures7327]

If pilot error why ground the plane for 2 days as mentioned?

[@PatPat144]

why is hardly anybody picking-up on this story. A junktion box problem yes, but with the background of the Max this is scary and it is always possible the engineers from boeing have unintentionally overlooked something. (not the first time is history)

[@hnsjackson]

If it's a Boeing I am not going! 😮

[@Aniket2712]

Here we go again!!

[@nikmwh]

Possibly due to disorientation due to the gravitational effect on the inner ear?

[@jackworth2981]

My thoughts: 1) Ryanair are cheapskate bastards - knowing that Boeing in trouble with their Bo 737 MAX they negotiated a super deal by taking the entire series of those dangerous aircarft that only received a software update from the manufacturer after 2 crashes investigation and fix. Boeing was glad that one airline interested to take the entire warehouse of these problematic planes. To avoid scaring public Ryan cheakily rebranded the model of the craft, I checked personally onboard, so the general public while onboard will not make a direct connection with those airplanes however they exactly those planes. It was a tight and tough deal, Ryan are aggressive arseholes and Boeing did not have much choice, sides agreed. So, the planes are still problematic and questionable. 2) As Boeing is still in investigations, recently fired CEO, received enormous fines and charges, clearly planes are not up to its best state, quality and safety wise, support and servicing too. So, you cannot expect servicing and maintenance of these planes to be on top currently. 3) As Ryanair are cheapskates and big arsеholes you cannot expect a great deal od checking, servicing, maintaining the planes either. 4) Ditto you cannot expect great pilots in the team as the company is also trying to economise on crew and pilots. So, all in all, we have risky plane; low quality servicing; potential plane fault of software and/or instruments; combined with human error or lack of knowledge how to tame probIematic 737 MAX. CIassic set of two corporations' high greed, cinicaI approach and careIessness over anything eIse.

[@superchargedpetrolhead]

Considering ryanair really doesn't like go arounds and since the pilots intiated one way early could there be something wrong with the plane itself.

[@theHDRflightdeck]

Doesn’t like go arounds? 😂

[@thomasdoctersvanleeuwen6476]

Safety is always priority! No airline ever would encourage pilots to pursue a landing when they don’t think it’s safe to do so. A go around is always fine with safety as a sole reason, not the airline’s finances

[@mrvwbug4423]

Could also be weather related. Wind shear can absolutely cause a situation like this, and a wind shear alarm in the cockpit on approach would mean an immediate go around, so they may have initiated the go around at the wind shear alarm, then got hit hard by wind shear as they were climbing out.

[@ZXH88]

For once, maybe it's not completely a Boeing fault. In a recent flight with Ryanair, during the approach, they were descending so quickly that I started to feel like I was almost weightless, a sensation that I've never experienced in any previous flight. Ryanair pilots are not just bad in landing, they are also bad in manoeuvring. 737 MAX and Ryanair pilots, a combination to avoid

[@krusty1974]

MCAS never cased any crash. Poor maintenance and poor training coupled with poor airmanship and poor basic flying skills did. AOA sensor failure was the trigger for an “Undesirable state of flight” which was fully recoverable. Who says the contrary is ignorant of the matter. Unfortunately multifaceted incompetency worsened the situation in both accidents till a crash occurred. MCAS was poorly designed in an industry where pilots have become a joke and can’t actually fly the airplane anymore. Nevertheless it worked perfectly well, as intended and as designed. We need fool proof airplanes because we deliver them to fools.

[@jevgenijs39]

This machine should be grounded

[@joshlaw2155]

That must have been scary the 737 yet again! Or was it pilot error?

[@XraySpectacles]

Beeen a few of these in last few months, i will not get on a Max

[@skyjet_av]

Dude ITS pilot error MCAS activat3s when the flaps aren't deployed

[@sdwelham]

That’s what they said about the two that crashed………it’s pilot error!…………… Are you guaranteeing that again?

[@jevgenijs39]

Hooding carrier with different fleet now

[@TeresaBotha-mf5gt]

737Max just freaks me out anyway.

[@andrewstorm8240]

Didn’t Ryanair report and who has real thoughts to share

[@tommcglone2867]

Boeing: Ah shit. Here we go again.

[@DangHaiTranA]

it's everyday ryanair stuff lol

[@pftnerd]

Looks awfully similar to lion air 3 years ago. 😮⚠️

[@brkitdwn]

Not at all

[@xkr510]

Simply dangerous

[@jarigustafsson7620]

FAA: AAAAAH Shit, here we go again!

[@LawpickingLocksmith]

Murphy again has struck?

[@lakiyoko]

This is terrifying and it’s gonna happen again

[@brkitdwn]

No it won't. It was pilot error 2:40

[@Di.Iv.555]

@@brkitdwnyes, it will unfortunately. That’s why I don’t fly with Ryanair. Even once I booked two tickets to one destination, one with Ryanair and with another airliner flying with Airbus A320 series, just in case if Ryanair assigns Max8 on my flight. Gladly it was 737-800.

[@52robbo]

Absolutely shocking - another Max incident. Truly these planes should not be flying. And why has it taken 7 months for any info to be made public?

[@joshuabrooks9360]

Wait. 737 Max 8 200? What’s the 200 or is that a mistake?

[@zulfika_]

Sorry but this is not an accident, this is Ryan Air Efficient landing

[@LindseyH24]

How are 737 MAX’s still flying

[@Dogfight2000]

This has nothing to do with the MAX…stop say MAX for every incident

[@L2theWcarscoffeelife]

you had to throw the max name in there when it had nothing to do with the aircraft just for views pathetic mcas contributed to the 2 accidents it was not the cause a good pilot would have turned the trim off per the manual no crashes in the US and granted lion air saved it the first time but why did they put it back up without fixing the problem??

[@banditalley9592]

Russian Roulette, or flying a 737 as it's now known.

[@i_vanni]

Mad MAX

[@98408143]

My thoughts🤔. “Must try to avoid 737Max and Ryanair at all cost”

[@jpegnow]

Isn't it that all 737 Max have been declared unsafe to fly ?

[@0M1S4G4_HCR2]

NOT AGAIN

[@brkitdwn]

​@@VTBS604 2:40

[@RealSaulGoodman78]

Isn’t that normal for Ryanair ?

[@basicthunder]

comedy genius

[@RealSaulGoodman78]

@@basicthunder e

[@slaphead90]

No, they don't do go-arounds - it costs too much in fuel

[@sayorancode]

@@slaphead90 they do bounce-arounds

[@dieseldragon6756]

Simply, it's a 737-MAX: Basically a DC-10, but with considerably downgraded avionics. ✈💩 And if Ryanair have those in their fleet now, I think I'll fc🇬🇧ing walk...

[@aon10003]

Ryanair told us they where safe with the max after this incident. Misinfo.

[@jkt7774]

Wow not again please...

[@-eLMango-]

My thoughts, dont travel on a MAX. Simple.

[@prasenjittripura4691]

most probably pilot’s error

[@Carlifurafollas]

Good old MAX shit

[@sjg4967]

Ryanair and Boeing - a match made in _________________?

[@daviddenham1511]

Pilot error

[@IloveA22s]

MCAS kicked in

[@thatonerandomkid-r2n]

did you not watch the video?

[@l0z586]

Someone doesn’t know the 737 well enough!

[@PB-xr3jl]

@@l0z586yup Boeing for sure

[@x-gamessimulator1067]

MCAS?

[@IloveA22s]

I watched ot

[@mmb811]

It's a Boeing, why so surprised. Remember Boeing's motto "PROFITS OVER SAFETY & HUMAN LIFE"

[@grandsoleil56]

MCAS up to its old tricks

[@stevea8875]

I mean it’s Ryan Air flight… I think this is the one instance where Boeing actually aren’t to blame for once….🙄

[@gliderman13]

Why?

[@ictoan]

wow so funny bro

[@gnappibr]

MAX = CURSED!!! 😮

[@michaeleberly7351]

If it’s Boeing, I’m NOT going!

[@germanpoweractivated]

That's not news 😬

[@mdasifrezwanshishir742]

When did they add -200 after MAX 8?

[@danielg9805]

Only Ryanair and someone in Asia is operating the -8200 at the minute

[@rob103rl]

The safety cards in the Ryanair MAX's don't mention the word MAX, just "Boeing 737-8200", because of the bad 'connotations' with the word.

[@fra93ilgrande]

It’s a special version with 200 seats made for Ryanair

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

@@fra93ilgrande Not really made specifically for Ryanair, because Akasa Air also operates the -8200

[@kojetono5853]

The -8200 is the high density version of the -8. It has additional emergency exits to allow that.

[@pandamisha]

I don't get it. Sooo many incidents with these max planes and they're still in service. Money money money.

[@eduardodaquiljr9637]

Too much alien play in jealous mode.Dont fight back!

[@Nangakantor]

Thankfully Boeis being federally investigated.