Christianity, Science, and Aliens - Off The Pill Podcast #35

[@itatcchi8603]

no matter your religion, I'd like to give respect to David for talking about his on a live podcast. It's difficult for some people when their beliefs are questioned or challenged but they made it such an open conversation. It's noble of him to note that he doesn't have it all figured out and that everyone is on their own individual journey.

[@onota8527]

Tatty_Eternal exactly!

[@champagnefroggy3801]

Kudos to the boys for being comfortable enough to talk about touchy subjects like these and post it to the main channel👍

[@NightcorEDM]

What so you're saying you can't speak about the truth?

[@NightcorEDM]

It's apparently illegal to speak the truth guys.

[@user-vv5ju3fj1p]

@@NightcorEDM shut up

[@DuckingAround]

They are talking about "touchy subjects" in literally the most safe way possible lmao its not very impressive.

[@amanewithjesus]

@@NightcorEDM John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life^^

[@Becca_Lynn]

I’m a Christian and I loved hearing how respectful and loving you guys are while talking about your beliefs. True friendship right there.

[@fishyaquatics5794]

I fully agree, such a mature way to talk about it on the internet.

[@enbi5440]

same I agree

[@teee.y]

i agreee!!!

[@teee.y]

@Chip THEflip no. i think he's non-religious but im not sure

[@Dimensional-Traveller]

I agree... I'm surprised that David Choi is a Christian... That really surprised me... Be praying for you buddy.

[@kelseytaranicole]

I am a Christian, and I'm always so excited to hear other Christians talk about their faith publicly! I especially respect those who can admit when they don't know all the answers and can take tough questions or conflicting opinion without getting heated. This was a great, open conversation :)

[@teee.y]

me too!

[@yooree4992]

Love this and me too!

[@eekeey]

I took religion in college. The one thing that stuck with me was: jesus' message was simple, it was the church who complicated it.

[@timsetto]

internallogic many are deceived because of the church & really it’s just Satans doing .. he’s the king of this earth

[@timsetto]

Some Churches *

[@ellieng1384]

Dang that's so true

[@animationsbyaj9442]

Seriously though,they made it way to complicated that It makes me think like they can somehow turn 1+1 into albert einstein level maths

[@denverbritto5606]

Life is complicated. e.g. Jesus didn't outright say slavery is wrong, it an obvious conclusion from his teachings, but even the apostle who understood him the best, Paul, still never took it to that step (no-one did, until Gregory of Nyssa) Same with a lot of other teachings, is it clear from his teachings what our stance on divorce should be? on abortion? what does he mean when he calls himself the Son of God? is he God, the Son of God or both? It's totally complicated.

[@davidchoimusic]

Apologies (I go off on tangents sometimes lol), I don’t think I fully answered the question about babies or those who have never heard of Jesus. My answer: I believe that God is fair and is a God of love, but ultimately, he will be the one to decide because he is God and we are not.

[@annalise9910]

Not sure if you've heard of this, but some Christians (myself included) believe in an age of accountability. So babies and very small children literally cannot grasp the concept of God, so they are exempt from his judgement. Again, tying into his love and justice. By the way, you did an excellent job at presenting your views, and I really appreciate your insight :) God bless, brother.

[@itatcchi8603]

I'm proud of you bro !

[@halibelboy1746]

In Puerto Rico there was a belief that any kid bellow 7 was considered pure because they couldn’t hold malicious intent. This probably goes back to Spain aswell but I’m not sure. I’m not a Christian so don’t take it as a fact (obviously)

[@itatcchi8603]

My understanding from the Bible and God's love is that everyone's actions has a consequence. We're all human and we all mistakes, and the duty of judgement is not ours. No one can say it's all black and white because it's only up to God. He makes the decisions in the end. I'm Christian too and nowhere in the bible does it explicitly say that a child living in the developing world who did not get the chance to know God is screwed. Someone who is not straight is not doomed to hell. He is a just God and it's ultimately his decision to make in the afterlife. There really is no point in arguing and hating each other because of our differences.

[@jakobsalvador2489]

if you’re really an open minded person, you should look up cross examined by frank turek. He’s an apologist that answers these types of questions

[@frmyt1135]

Ryan’s channel is like the only channel on KZbin you can talk about controversial topics with people being respectful in the comments.

[@animationsbyaj9442]

Probably because he has one of the most matured fanbase

[@MyLife-og2kr]

Probably because you haven't looked into enough podcast or looked up enough youtube channels lol.

[@sanlee4289]

i thought there as going to be a lot more hate comment's

[@krissmork]

try "Unreasonable?", they invite the leading scientists, scholars, philosophers, you name it, within their fields and have very respectful and fair conversations about hugely interessant topics. There's nothing you can't find. Christian radio/channel, but so good at not taking sides during the discussions.

[@aIkaIi]

Christians get such a bad rep, David is a great representative for Christianity. So far he's touched on all the right points.

[@PazmatiKz]

True

[@johnchesterfield9726]

Samuel Cho I would say that the reason Christianity gets such a bad rep is because if you ever read the Bible, you will come to realize it’s a grossly immoral book

[@PazmatiKz]

The fact that there is wars and death in the Bible has nothing to do with the twisted people that use it as an excuse to perform sick acts. There is no excuse for anyone to kill, or abuse anyone else, and the bible teaches that too.

[@crubs83]

@@johnchesterfield9726 Define "immoral".

[@ceilingfanenthusiast6041]

@@PazmatiKz God have you read the Bible? The great flood? The story of Job? There are so many examples of atrocities committed by God

[@graceababan]

Ryan & David talking about religion: "I'm sure we're gonna get a lot of criticisms and hate" Comments Section: I love this podcast **suggests a bunch of helpful resources*

[@gyunghkawng7222]

Ahaha. Yep yep. But if it’s on Islam, Muslim dudes will be throwing criticisms and hating. Just saying.

[@princess520]

Never seen any hate comments

[@amandagilbert4692]

The maturity and kindness during this podcast was very refreshing.

[@sheilaramirez6444]

David spoke mad facts in this podcast and as a Catholic, I highly appreciated this conversation. I don’t think Ryan sounded anti anything. You just sounded like a person with very normal doubts about religion and that’s ok!

[@Zack-bl2gg]

Yea I have so much more respect for David now. He spoke about the faith respectfully, but also logically and explained what he believed. He wasn’t squishy either. That’s hard to do.

[@nihartley5265]

It is sad that today talking about religion, science, and reality is seen as controversial

[@AK46supr]

Ikr

[@kappelikapeli1401]

How is it sad?

[@LanceWillMakeIt]

@@kappelikapeli1401 the whole concept of free will and choice is a blessing, therefor we should be able to share our choices and beliefs with each other as a society without people getting offended

[@EnigmazGuide]

@@LanceWillMakeIt SO MANY IMMATURE, SENSITIVE PEOPLE. YA

[@LanceWillMakeIt]

@Silent Planet I don't really understand how that has to do with my og comment. If you're saying we can't stop people from being offended, then you're right lol - there's definitely no way you can stop that. The reason I wrote that comment above is because kappeli was wondering why it was considered sad.

[@oranjaes]

This podcast episode really reminds me of my religion class at school (i go to a catholic school). Our teacher made it very clear that we should believe in a religion because of our own faith, not because you were told to by someone else.. we are also taught about other religions, instead of just christianity, which teaches us to be more open minded. I am a believer of God, but I believe that people have the choice to believe in God or not (free will), and regardless of what they believe in, God will still love them.

[@warriorofthe7894]

As an Atheist, I really wish more Christians shared the same thought process as you.

[@GallifrAngel]

a sad yeemo boi I went to a catholic school and I wish our religion classes had been that unbiased 😭

[@nachamu99]

Not to be that kind of person. Just curious by what you mean. He also loves those who don’t believe him (accepts us as we are), however, they just can’t be allowed to be with him in heaven in the after life. Right?

[@oranjaes]

ny93 according to the Bible (2 Thessalonians) it says that non-believers of God will not go to heaven, but in Romans 2 it says that unbelieving people that do not hear the Gospel before they die would be judged by their conscience. Hebrews 11 is also similar, stating that people that lived faithfully in their own religion would be considered for salvation.

[@paintup46]

WarriorOfThe7 to be honest man, many are nowadays. We’ve gotten a bad rep from the Christians in the 90’s, my parents were like that. Today that attitude has been adopted by many atheists and the LGBTQ community. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Most young Christians just sit back and try not to act “holier than thou”.

[@kiratohope371]

As an atheist it was interesting listening to this podcast pls keep it up

[@marraris9647]

Regarding faith: If you logically understand that God is a loving creator, and that he didn’t build us as mindless robots, but instead as creations meant to love him, then I think it makes sense that not all the answers are laid out in front of us. To love someone, you can know a lot of things about them, but ultimately having faith in their character and who they are will be the deciding factor of how strong your love is for someone. I think it’s the same way with God. He could easily just show himself, and we can know he exists. He could easily give us all the facts. But even then, that doesn’t mean much. It doesn’t mean we will love Him. That we will truly understand Him. We might know about him, but not truly know Him. He gives us enough clues to show us character, and throughout the Bible he shows us this loving, caring, forgiving Father We are given that choice: to love Him or to reject Him. There’s no in between. Ultimately it’s faith that brings you to Him and allows you to love Him. For me personally, I truly struggled to understand this. I understood logically that there was a God, and understood that Jesus was real and died on the cross, but I couldn’t internalize this message. One day I just decided to give up on focusing on the tiny details that didn’t end up mattering and took a step of faith. Because of that I realized and understood that God loved me, and wanted me to see this and love Him (which He doesn’t try to force me to do). He loved me so much that he sent his perfect son, Jesus, to be publicly humiliated, beaten, and to die on the cross for my sins. I always thought I wasn’t a bad person, that I was morally good. But once I realized that I was exactly like those people that put Jesus on the cross, and that Jesus forgave me and died for me despite that, that was how I realized how much He loved me. That is why I’m so grateful to have taken that step of faith and to experience a love as great as this; nothing else can amount to it. And ever since then, everything builds meaning; you see the gospel and God present in every aspect of your life. I’m so blessed to be loved on by my leaders, who have through Christ, were able to love a sinner like me, to teach me the gospel, to pray for me. And of course, I’m so thankful for God for loving me and not just giving up on me. I will love Him forever

[@kylechong4905]

I’m kind of in a similar spot, I’ve laid out al the facts and concluded that He has to exist, but I haven’t been able to internalize it. How did you do that?

[@GoodolKev]

JFC that's way too long.

[@Fiveth55]

i slept like god during the holocaust last night and i feel amazing

[@mulanyin3051]

Can I use this as my school speech?

[@gbfgs]

Thank you for the beautiful message💛

[@user-jb1ie8qc7y]

I really enjoyed this conversation! My friends and I talk about similar stuff all the time. In regards to Christianity, I think David is so right that it's really misrepresented. There's a KZbin Channel called "The Bible Project" that is informing about this stuff really clearly. Definitely worth checking out! Thank you for sharing this! Love you guys!!!

[@gubs7299]

As an Apologist, I can completely agree with everything you said! By the way, love Bible Project lol

[@chervon5773]

Tim Willson I really enjoy the 10 Minute Bible Hour as an eastern catholic. He is good at showing you all aspects of Christianity and shows them all in an objective light.

[@koilinn134]

Love that channel!

[@weaver6341]

Ten Minute Bible Hour is really good too

[@ramchop-_-7320]

Tim Willson ayy I watch the Bible Project, their vids are awesome

[@CobraMT]

We want kyle! Even with his pidgin accent lol

[@CobraMT]

Prisoner FN-24601 thanks, im stupid🙃

[@jjsouls6986]

@@CobraMT dude u spelled it the same way. Ur just as stupid as that other person

[@CobraMT]

JJ souls haha no I edited it thats why it’s spelled the same 😂 i first put “pigeon” but then edited to the right way which is “pidgin”

[@CobraMT]

JJ souls maybe you’re the stupid one?🤔

[@halibelboy1746]

JJ souls Almost as stupid as not double checking if the comment was edited

[@jenitajames2678]

Really appreciate David's answers! He did his best to stay true to his beliefs and was open minded!

[@darrrkangel]

Who else forgot Will was even on the podcast lmao

[@saranguyen2788]

I’m listening to the podcast and scrolling through comments. I completely forgot Will was even there until I read your comment 😂 😂

[@Dimensional-Traveller]

Everyone including himself did. Sometimes, it's better to sit and listen.

[@XxMaplerzxX]

would love to know Arden's thoughts and how both her and Ryan navigate their way in the relationship despite their differences

[@ArsenalBowler]

I've had very dark periods in my life before where ultimately my faith and belief helped me through them. I don't know if I would've been here today if it wasn't for my religion, but I'm not extremely religion and go to church, I just have a strong belief in my faith, which ultimately dug me out of that pit-hole that felt like it was endless. So I'd strongly agree with David. I've thought about so much of similar points that he brought up, but I came to the same conclusion. Religion is really about being at peace with oneself. Just having faith that there is a plan ahead for me, helped me to believe that those dark periods were simply just phases of my life that I eventually was going to get through, learn something and develop from. Honestly and coincidentally, I was feeling strong negative feelings about some stuff in my life again until this came out, reminding me of my religion, and how to find peace with myself and my life although I'm about to go through another significant period in it. It's simply my belief and people are free to disagree with it, but it does feel like divine intervention whenever I'm feeling at a low point and something like this comes out or a friend that cares comes along to help me be positive and at peace again. Thank you David and Ryan for being open enough to discuss this publicly although religion has been known to be controversial. I might be 1 in 100,000 that feels that way about this video, but it has been a great reminder for me.

[@kmasonsos]

God bless you.

[@josephujoostaa4462]

@Piano Child102 Well, i don't even really remember what i had wrote back then but now i think i'm more respectful. But sometimes i can't really help myself if someone makes a super dumb claim. There was this one person who wrote (not too long ago.) Atheism is a religion too, and Atheists believe in science blindly. he gave an example with "if a scientist said the Earth was a triangle, Atheists would believe it." I couldn't really help myself.

[@jasonsomers8224]

I love how you guys are so willing to talk about such a serious and controversial topic! Part of being a christian, is realising and accepting that Jesus is THE way, THE truth, and THE life. No one gets to heaven except through him. This has been my favorite podcast by far. Spectacular conversation!

[@jihangirastra3851]

What evidence is there that Christianity is real/factual

[@jasonsomers8224]

@@jihangirastra3851 what evidence is there for anything that happened before cameras were invented is real/factual? Even now images can be edited so you have to have FAITH that scientists are not lying about the results of their expeirments.

[@SSC0002]

@@jihangirastra3851 Not a Christian, but talking about religion in general here. Religion is supposed to take you where science can't. Science tells you how, religion tells you why. They can coexist, but people today like to make them mutually exclusive - the man who came up with the scientific method was Muslim, and others like Darwin and Newton were religious. I agree that you shouldn't just follow blindly, there should be evidence to base your belief on, but if you're looking for a simple "1+1=2" kind of answer you won't be satisfied with any religion. There is a leap of faith you have to take in order to embrace any religion

[@fa2lemuelm2]

Isnt it sad that the merit of a person will never be enough to enter heaven if they turn out to be atheist? And heaven based on what religion? Christianity really likes to impose a way of life "for the correct path to heaven" or does that mean your statement is deceiving?

[@jasonsomers8224]

@@SSC0002 even in science, you cannot test every expeirment ever done. If you trust your own senses, you can conclude alot of things. If you trust what scientists say happenned in their expeirments you can explain most of how our universe works.

[@thecrazyloudgirl]

I'm Christian but I respect anybody who isn't being a jerk. One of the reasons why I enjoy Ryan's channel is because he never turns it into a political or religious hatefest and has jokes that aren't offensive yet totally PC

[@joshuajoonhakim2464]

Props to David for dealing the topic of religion in such a humble, modest way even when Ryan asked some very very touchy questions when it comes to Christianity!

[@nate24]

the amount of respect they have for each other and other beliefs is absolutely lovely. this is a fantastic example of how to talk candidly about religion without attacking or ripping each other apart. love this so much.

[@clee277]

I'm Christian but I respect your opinion ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

[@rahzekarma]

I'm Agnostic but I respect your opinion (~˘▾˘)~

[@itsjustmint5211]

I’m Catholic but I respect your opinion (insert face)

[@jurneyswrld6989]

Xaxa Mint I’m a Jehovah’s Witness and respect your opinion 👌🏾

[@enzobalisongflipping7641]

Im mormon screw yall

[@sl4013]

I'm an atheist but i respect ur opinion

[@bethanywaters5265]

I grew up Christian and it’s always been a really important part of my life. You touched on some things that I have thought about and struggled with. Like the question: How do you know your beliefs are true? For a while that questions was always in the back of my mind and I really struggled with it because I had never really faced that kind of doubt. But I think it really just comes down to faith. there’s no way to prove 100% that Christianity is completely fact, but you have to have faith. I think most questions and doubts people face in probably any religion comes down to just having faith and trust in whatever it is you believe. Touching on your first topic, I think that we definitely have complete free will. Yes, God had a plan and a purpose for everyone He creates, but it’s up to that person to choose to follow and obey Him. I love that you brought up that’s Christians have been given a bad rep. Sadly, more and more Christians aren’t practicing what the religion is all about, which is simply love. A lot of Christians judge, hate, and condemn those who don’t follow their religion. Jesus never acted this way towards anyone. He simply loved despite the hate, ridicule, and abuse he experienced, and he died for a world that hated him just so they could be forgiven. God loves, unconditionally, but unfortunately too many Christians are not using that same practice.

[@dukenukem8828]

By faith you can believe in anything. Religious belief all require faith because there's simply no evidence to prove any supernatural claims. Its just claims that are to br believed at face value.

[@andrewsugono4832]

Bethany Waters but there are just too many miracles in my life to not believe that Jesus is 100% real. I have really had a rough past but looking back at it, it actually makes sense the plan that God has for me is really significant. Even though I have never seen God before, its really what this is all about! As christians, we have to have faith. I hope that some day, you will overcome this doubt and I believe that even true christians are struggling with this fact. But the fact that you do wonder about this, is a great thing. It shows that you seek to find the truth. I believe that he will find a way to show himself to all of us. Jeremiah 29:13 says “you will seek me and find me when you search for me with all your heart”. Which I think you are trying hard to seek him! These are my thoughts on all this and I wish you luck on this journey.

[@bethanywaters5265]

Andrew Sugono Thank you!! I did overcome the doubt eventually through prayer and just spending time with God, and I believe overcoming that doubt has really made my relationship with him stronger. I completely agree with you that I 100% believe that God is real. There’s not a doubt in my mind. I was just saying there is no way for humans to prove that to those who don’t believe. All you can do is spread the word and teach others about the faith.

[@bethanywaters5265]

X God doesn’t value one person over another; he loves us all equally. That’s why I believe he sent his son to die for us. And we’re all sinners, no matter what religion you follow. I can’t tell you what God does relating to other beliefs. God is the only judge; humans have no right or knowledge to say who will or won’t get into Heaven. Whatever you believe I completely respect!! These are just my personal beliefs!

[@paintup46]

X but he doesn’t. Hypocritical insecure church goers believe that. Jesus surrounded himself with sinners.

[@MiamiDolphinsfan4]

Great podcast as always, as a Christian I love that you all are brave enough to tackle such a difficult subject without caring about what other people think. I honestly struggle with a lot of the same questions Ryan had regularly so it was awesome to hear you discuss them. Keep up the great work!!!

[@xxfaytal8645]

David, you did a great job! its not easy to be questioned like that, hopefully this conversation inspires ryan and many others to look deeper into the christian truth

[@CyberDragon-tn7rz]

I like that you guys speak openly and honestly and aren't afraid to talk about things that a lot of people would be afraid to discuss over the air. I really respect that, and I really enjoyed this episode.

[@kimhaze1790]

Thank you David for taking about this, it is so nice to see someone so comfortable with their beliefs and so willing to talk about it openly and honestly!

[@Gbaby_1241]

Ryan I so wish Arden was on this podcast too cause she's a true Christian and it would be interesting to know how you guys navigate the different beliefs

[@lemonCutie37]

Oohh I didnt know arden is christian too. Has she talked about it in her.vids before?

[@XxMaplerzxX]

@@lemonCutie37 yes she's talked about it before and covered numerous Christian songs on her channel l.

[@rockhead1731]

Because you know who all the true Christians are , must be nice. I suppose you know who are the true atheists as well.

[@Gbaby_1241]

@@rockhead1731 no of course not and I never claimed to. I just know that arden is because of who she is as a person

[@LipSyncLover]

I don't know how they* navigate it. But from what I have experienced myself* and seen others do, there has to be some common ground in core values. Like maybe they differ in how they think it all started but they still follow the same moral standards. And it's also of crucial importance you don't make your partner feel stupid for their faith or lack thereof. You can see why they think how they do, you simply have different conclusions. For my boyfriend and I , I have faith, he doesn't. But he admires my faith. We also have a good deal of common ground when it comes to agnosticism. we both acknowledge our limitations in knowledge and that's a lot of common ground to stand on actually. Also a person's view on salvation and the afterlife will play a big role. If I believed God would punish a human for all time, in the worst torment possible, simply for being unconvinced of his deity while in this finite life with very limited knowledge and understanding......then...I would probably be sitting and fretting over my boyfriend all of the time. But I don't think that's what its about, I think it's about a person's heart. And my boyfriend might be a little bit chaotic at times but has a very good heart. The fact that he admires that i have faith at all tells me, I think, that if there exists a God, God will see where his heart was, but that his mind was unconvinced. i trust God to be fair and not a cruel evil dictator. But yeah a total baptist evangelical will not be able to date an atheist that thinks all religion is stupid.

[@sethdavis459]

It’s so awesome to see that David Choi is a Christian

[@KiraIaconetti]

Seth Davis 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@subinsabu3209]

Why?

[@lavendermarshmallowplant3229]

@@subinsabu3209 it's just nice to see someone on the internet have such a huge similarity with you as religion. Maybe irl not so, but in the internet it is very rare to see a Christian creator, who's content isn't exclusive to their faith(which I have not problem with).

[@sethdavis459]

subin sabu I’m a Christian so it’s really great personally to know that there’s a KZbinr who shares that faith with me

[@irispark5561]

Right? Ik religion doesn’t make a whole person but I lit up when I found out he was Christian

[@daniellee6796]

There’s a great question that Ryan Higa asked here that had to do with how Christians can know that which can not be known. Super logical and valid, great question..just wanted to briefly mention here that another postulate that Christians have is that God is love and desires relationship. At the base of everything, Christians don’t believe in God because the bible exists. Christian believe in God because he speaks and reveals himself to us. The Bible is a product of how God communicates; that’s why it’s called the word (His word). Though by nature he is other than, and thus unable to be conceived by the mind, he is able to reveal who he is to us in ways that we can humanly process. Imagine if an adult living underground had never seen a tree before. In attempting to describe the tree to that adult, one would have to build the idea of the tree by using what the underground already knows. For example, he would say “A tree is like ___.” He describes the tree to be in the likeness of something the man already knows, like the brownness of dirt being like the brownness of wood, but the man still doesn’t understand. Just as humans cannot fully understand what is other than (God), the underground man cannot understand what is other than (Plato’s Allegory of the Cave). But, if the underground man suddenly SAW the tree, he would instantly understand and be able to perceive and thus conceptualize the tree that otherwise could not be conceptualized. But God isn’t a tree. He’s God. He initiated relationship with us. Imagine the tree being able to move itself underground and appear before the underground man. God reaches down and shows different parts of his attributes to us, and we can experience Him intimately and personally. That’s Jesus. The bridge between paradoxical holiness and love. It’s important to note what starts with faith doesn’t actually end ONLY in faith. By faith, one tastes and sees Him. It starts by experiencing Him. We all have. Not through a face to face revelation with Him, but perhaps through knowing love or encountering moments of his presence. What starts with experience gives the slightest leeway for faith, which is then tempered by experiencing even more of Him. If anyone’s still reading this, whether you believe or not, He loves you He loves you He loves you. He created you with design and value. You are precious and priceless and greatly loved.

[@ellisiv9486]

Well said! God bless💙

[@lovelymaralit1012]

I was a little scared to see the comments, afraid that there may be lots of hate about Christian beliefs. But feeling blessed with the conversation and the response. Kudos to David in talking about it.

[@magicmagus1459]

Really enjoyed today's podcast. The guys spoke about things they were interested in, stated their opinions, and the conversation flowed smoothly. My favourite podcast so far!

[@taoist32]

MagicMagus14 I think David had a more difficult time since Ryan had questions that are hard to answer with specific answers we would all like from Christians.

[@ShaneyLadzYT]

This podcast was truly inspiring, thank you Will, David and Ryan for touching upon these tough and controversial topics. We should all learn to be open-minded, we shouldn't discriminate against someone just because of their faith. IT is not bad to be Christian. IT is not bad to be an Athiest. IT is not bad to believe in a religion. I really believe those who hardcore believe in a belief and think that it is 100% true indeed go on to become sick people. It's upsetting to see people really want to persecute another's faith. We should all be in this together, working together to bring about a great universal society. Another thing to note from the podcast, I think several things have indeed been misrepresented over time, with the media having a huge impact on it. I'm only 15 years old, and I really think it's about time we end discrimination among beliefs. No one should be labelled as delusional.

[@johnchesterfield9726]

ShaneyLadz There is no such thing as discrimination against beliefs, just discrimination against people who hold a belief, which I would agree is a bad thing. With that being said, no body should be entitled to respect the beliefs of others. I will respect your right to hold any belief you’d like, but I don’t have to respect the belief itself, and if your religion isn’t worthy of being respected, I won’t respect it.

[@ShaneyLadzYT]

@@johnchesterfield9726 I may have worded my comment a bit wrong, but I can definitely get where you're coming from and I do feel the same way.

[@TheMoMoBigGC]

If you believe that someone will experience infinite suffering and are doing the most evil thing possible by not worshiping your god you are morally obligated to convert people. You would be perfectly justified as you are under the believe it will achieve more wellbeing by infinite. You have to believe 100% that is what faith is regardless of logic you must believe in Yahweh or Allah fully to be saved.

[@bromponie7330]

Sorry, but some things are bad, including being an atheist. God, being the perfect being, flawess, as good as you can get - we all owe Him praise. To reject His grace is indeed not a good thing. God said so Himself.

[@bromponie7330]

@@sliceofgarlicbread6868 no

[@Savior642]

Mad respect for these guys being open about touchy topics like religion!

[@Zorgot.]

Ryan: Expecting the comments to be a war Comments: Being very supportive

[@Deagle-lj7tv]

Wow we have the same profile pic, that's weird

[@Zorgot.]

@@Deagle-lj7tv oh wow that is weird

[@Deagle-lj7tv]

@@Zorgot. I think I read so many comments on so many vids that I'm bound to find the same pic at some point

[@Zorgot.]

@@Deagle-lj7tv first time I seen one and it's trippy, feels like it's me but it's not and it's weird

[@music4mysoul123]

/ Spider-Man meme

[@gyunghkawng7222]

PLEASE INVITE RAVI ZACHARIAS ON THIS PODCAST AND TALK ABOUT THESE KIND OF TOPICS

[@tboaitey4884]

That would be so cool!

[@perryjeff77]

lol ravi intellect is another level. Nigahiga would probably crack so much jokes. Maybe get a Pastor that’s the same ethnicity like Francis Chan or something 😆

[@RaghavPrakash]

@@perryjeff77 racist much?

[@irinaleontyuk]

that would have been awesome :’’’(

[@gyunghkawng7222]

Irina B. 😩

[@user-jb1ie8qc7y]

You guys should get Tim Mackie from The Bible Project on to talk about these questions!!! He is legit and explains things super well! He's in Portland.

[@koilinn134]

I would watch that in a heartbeat! And I don't watch many of these..

[@maika795]

YES!!!

[@nsaniy]

Oof Don't make this a Christian channel

[@user-jb1ie8qc7y]

@@nsaniy They talk about lots of different topics on this channel. No need to fear a particular topic.

[@kwameadu0075]

Yeah he's great

[@whimbrella]

this was an incredibly civil, intellectual conversation on religion and i think it’s pretty sad how you guys have to be worried about stuff being controversial.

[@zaydc.6461]

I'm a Muslim and I agreed with pretty much most of the things David said

[@Elcarnalito420]

Ninjex 32 I’m catholic and same

[@zaydc.6461]

I feel like so many religions r so similar we just believe in different gods

[@Elcarnalito420]

Ninjex 32 yeah or different names for the same God perhaps

[@lifeisterrible2998]

@@Elcarnalito420 I agree, I'm a Muslim and throughout my whole life I've been taught that we all pray to the same God, but with different names.

[@Elcarnalito420]

Life is terrible right. I’m a Christian and I respect my Muslim friends and Islam.

[@nix_]

You're actually encouraged to question God's existence; the point being to question then reaffirm your faith

[@sl4013]

U actually believe in god. LOL

[@nix_]

@@sl4013 Most people do. Shocking, I know🙄

[@pipstix5487]

Nix!!! - Not ‘most people’. According to Wikipedia, 29% of the population are Christian.

[@-Teague-]

@@pipstix5487 there are other religions... In fact only 18% of people are unaffiliated with a religion as of 2016

[@gureum_6020]

@@yashuppot3214 old comment, but i think it means more you must challenge your faith to reaffirm it. in fear of God you shouldn't challenge Him, that is, you don't try to assert yourself over God or believe that you are His equal.

[@tarekhesham5133]

Please bring InspiringPhilosophy. He is a great Christian apologist. He'd love to come on the podcast. He had great impact on my faith.

[@erika2377]

Tarek Hesham he’s one of the best apologists I ever watched (:

[@hotoven]

Yes!

[@jenniferpust]

Bring an atheist as well, such as Genetically modified skeptic or darkmatter2525 to balance it out

[@canalcristaoprofetico]

What David says makes loads of sense. He sounds like the voice of reason in this.

[@HolyMoose]

What he really says is "I dunno, you gotta have faith." and "If we knew we'd be god, but we don't so we believe". I guess that makes sense cause he admits he doesn't know and just has to have blind faith, but not sure if that's the voice of reason.

[@saa-imanatha5355]

I enjoyed this podcast because it was real. Everyone was comfortable challenging each other like a chat amongst true friends

[@Zack-bl2gg]

37:10 “don’t say sorry” Thank you Ryan for your push against cancel culture. We really need it.

[@somusika]

I’ve been listening to the podcasts since the beginning and watching Ryan for who knows how long now, I think this is by far one of my favorite podcasts yet! I love how they can talk about “touchy” subjects and not get upset. To be able to talk about your beliefs and not always believing the same thing can get tricky but I love the dynamic that these guys have and being open about it! I am completely with David, we can never stop growing and learning about what we believe in! If I’m wrong about God then I wasted my life. If you’re wrong about God then you wasted your eternity-Lecrae

[@EmilyBeggs]

I appreciate and admire how respectful David is and how honest he is about how he doesn’t have all the answers, but he articulates everything to the best of his ability.

[@davidwang4234]

David says Kyle is a cool guy and Ryan has flashback to his childhood when Kyle was his archnemesis.

[@krazyklinzy]

As a Christian, I was so happy to hear this topic discussed so openly and respectfully. This was, by far, my fav episode!

[@Doggo_Mafia]

Ayyyyyyyy Christianity!!! Now this is a podcast I can get with!

[@jjsouls6986]

There is a poop in the toilet. U can get with that Its just as shitty as these podcasts

[@RobbieTheSage]

@@jjsouls6986 why are you watching? -_-

[@jjsouls6986]

@@RobbieTheSage i love watching disasters

[@halibelboy1746]

JJ souls Make a comment instead of just replying, I’ll happily see how they disagree with you

[@jinjunliu2401]

@@halibelboy1746 won't help, his comment won't get enough likes for people to see it and give a reaction. That's why he needs to reply on more liked comments

[@DaylightSpeaks]

Thanks so much for discussing this! It's so important to discuss topics like this with the source. Discussing politics with a candidate, discussing faith with a person of faith. It's so authentic and open-minded and I'm all for it! Props to David for speaking about his faith so publicly, and answering tough questions!

[@sophie-429]

Ryan should collab with Jolly & do an off the pill podcast with Rev. Chris. He's soo down to earth and open to answering people's questions on christianity. Also he has experienced being on youtube vids. :) Loved seeing David again!

[@TimeWithBekka]

Definitely recommend reaching out to Timothy Keller on the side of Christianity. He wrote a book called "The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism". Very knowledgeable.

[@hazel3797]

I love him 😭😍

[@ghazzelle2128]

Kudos to you guys by talking about a very touchy subject, and still managing to have Christians appreciate your work

[@FloYLi]

As a 50 year-old mother of a couple of teens who introduced me to nigahiga some years ago, I feel strange commenting here now and admitting that I have loved all your videos for years (gasp!) and still look forward to any and all of your posts as an outlet from my busy sandwich-generation life. So many times, I intended to comment my compliments to RHPC on your videos- first world probs, the amazing cardboard/paper/stop motion creations, cooking but not really, parkourse, the HS grad speech, and so many others- but never did. Sorry! But now I must I applaud this podcast. I am an Asian American, church-going Catholic, who was baptized as a baby. Yet, I completely agree with and/or share the same thoughts and questions that Ryan, David, and Will so eloquently brought up. Literally every single one. Thank you for your courage to talk about religion publicly, despite knowing in our unfortunate climate these days that you might face unwarranted backlash. People do need to talk and share their thoughts with each other. And push themselves to talk with people outside of their comfortable circles. This is one of the most basic ways to enrich our existence as humans AND promote mutual appreciation for individual differences, tolerance, and ultimately, peace. I am the first to admit I’m an imperfect person who calls herself a Christian but leads a less than Christian life sometimes. My husband, who also probably identifies as an agnostic, sometimes leads a holier life than me. I’m going to admit that I don’t find reading the Bible in and of itself the most helpful way for me to understand my relationship with God. Rather, reading/hearing scripture then talking or listening to others’ (e.g. priest’s homily) prayerful interpretations of what the Bible readings mean to us in our day and age are most meaningful to me. It demonstrates how timeless God’s intentions, wishes, and merciful love are to us, no matter what generation or where in the world you are. I used to have a huge problem reconciling Catholicism and its treatment of homosexual people. Then I went to a panel about homosexuality at a Catholic faith-building conference put on by our diocese. The Church’s teaching is not meant to vilify any of God’s children (i.e. every single person). In fact, the church teaches that every single person is worthy of love; every single person is God’s precious creation, whom He loves without exception, even if we fail or turn away from Him or don’t even understand He exists. Back to the topic of homosexuality, the Church does not condone sex that is not the loving act between a married man and woman with the intention or possibility of procreating. So not only does this mean that homosexual sex is against Church doctrine, heterosexual sex that involves the use of non-natural birth control is also against Church teaching. I dare say some judgmental, narrow-minded, homophobic Christians forget this. The Church, in fact, welcomes everyone. Homosexual Catholics are held to the same expectations as heterosexual Catholics when it comes to living faith-filled lives in accordance with God’s teachings. The Ten Commandments and Jesus’s Beatitudes & “Golden Rule” (treating/loving others as you’d want to be treated/loved) are the core of how to live as Christians. They sound easy enough to follow, but we all know that doing the right thing is sometimes the harder choice to make. My comment, like your podcast, doesn’t do justice to the vastness of this topic. It would be incredible if you could host a podcast with “experts” from various disciplines and religions. Thank you! Keep up the great work RHPC.

[@christiangoubaud]

FloYLi Amen to your valuable words :)

[@niemah]

I'm Muslim, and I enjoyed this episode a lot I love how comfortably they discuss this topic; this is how people can get to learn about what is faith

[@BlueKnight0499]

The way these guys have these conversations is incredible. Sticks out in a time like this with all the controversy. They address areas of controversy but in a very fair way. Love the pod!

[@InsiderPaul]

AWESOME DISCUSSION! Thanks for putting this out there! A couple thoughts: There is an underlying idea behind a lot of what was talked about in this discussion that Science and God are somehow at complete odds. As if you have to choose whether to believe in Gravity or God, but can't believe in both. Sir Isaac Newton was actually a devout believer in God. Science is just the study of the world, and really science changes every year. At one point in history, the great majority of scientists believed the sun rotates around the earth. You can believe fully in God, his love and his good news, and at the same time be fascinated with science. Science does not disprove God whatsoever. There is no science that says God doesn't exist. But that statement could spark a whole debate in itself. Secondly, in the podcast, David made great points, but as a Christian, I felt that Christianity, spoken of as a religion or sets of beliefes to follow like any other religion, isn't really the main point of Christiainity. Biblical Christianity isn't an "it", it's a Him. God desires us to have a very real, personal, authentic daily relationship with himself. Although he is seated in heaven currently, he also sent his Holy Spirit, (His Spirit), to dwell with us and in us on earth. That means he is physically/spiritually with us and speaks to us If we are willing to listen through his Bible and through other believers too. God of the Bible is described in so many different ways. King, Lord, Shepherd, Friend, Master, Savior, Creator, Father, Redeemer, Bridegroom, and on and on. Jesus taught us how to pray with the Lord's prayer and it starts, "Our Father" God as our father, a good father, is so powerful. You might not have the best father here on earth, but God is the most loving perfect father and it's such a joy to be called his son. As far as the controversial question posed on the show: I believe fully that ONLY through believing in Christ's perfect sacrifice can one be saved, (kids are an exception). The Bible is very clear, Jesus says there is ONE way to the father and that's through him. He says 'I am the way the truth and the life, nobody gets to the father but by me. (paraphrase)' While it's comfortable to say in this day and age that people should go with the flow, and do what makes them feel good, Love, True LOVE, must speak the truth. If your child is going to get hit by a car, you don't tell them to do what feels good and if walking into the road feels good, go ahead. Love causes us to speak the truth To anyone reading this who isn't born-again, the truth is this: You are currently dead in your sins, nothing you can do, no matter how hard you try can earn your way to heaven. The Bible says all (all people) have fallen short of the glory of God. God is holy and perfect and can not mix with sinfulness. This is a major quandary and is depressing, BUT God, being rich in mercy , because of the great love in which he loves us, made a way to revive us from death to life. To save our souls from eternal separation from Him. He sent Jesus Christ, who is fully God but fully man, who lived a perfect life here on earth. He is the perfect image of God, showing what God the father would say and do here on earth. Jesus lived his life without sinning. In order to take the punishment we deserve for our sinful life, He was tortured and died a gruesome death on a cross, the Roman times equivalent of capital punishment, because he loved us so so much. The book of Hebrews says "Jesus... who for the joy set before Him endured the cross.." He was thinking about YOU (you reading this) while he was carrying the cross to be nailed to it and die. His sacrifice on that cross was a legal method to take what we deserve. Because of what he did, God says we can become the righteousness of God. By rejecting the world's ways, and relying/believing /trusting in Jesus the Messiah's sacrifice, God no longer sees us as dirty/sinful, but he sees Christ. We become as white as snow in God's eyes, and our sins are not only forgiven but forgotten!! Psalm 103 says "He has removed our sins as far from us as the east is from the west" if you go east you'll go on forever because the world is a sphere. When we grasp that concept, how much he loves us, we want to obey everything he says out of a passion for HIM, not out of obligation or fear of punishment. Jesus suffered and died, and gave himself for us. To say that we can believe in another way to heaven, or just be a "good person" , and still go to heaven is like slapping Jesus in his face saying what he did was pointless. God is absolutely real, he loves you, he cares deeply about you, he knows how many hairs are on your head. If you've read this far, and what I've written resonates with you, please do not ignore it. That's God trying to reach you and love you. He loves you. He offers a free gift and it will change your life in every way for the better. If you want more info here is a simple website that may help: PeaceWithGod (dot) net -- (or message me)

[@aim-9sidewinder550]

Lol, what is that love going to do? We're born, we try, we get a job, we work. We either get a family or not, we choose are own way. By the end of the day, we die. That's the whole part of life, we are actually loved by our own race. Meaning, friends, family, etc. Its chaotic that we have to follow some rules in order to live in "paradise". I'm betting you took everything granted from the bible, also you kept on saying "god said" this and that. Like bruh, really?

[@InsiderPaul]

@@aim-9sidewinder550 Start reading the Bible, start with the book of John, where the story of Jesus is told. Read the words of Jesus and if you have a problem with what he says, let's talk. The Bible provides the way in which the world really works and again, declares the good news that the creator, God, loves you, yes you. He doesn't want you to follow some set of rules he wants you to be loved by Him. When you know you are His, you'll want to please Him out of love back for him. The Pharisees were people in the Bible that followed rules better than anyone else. See what Jesus had to say about Pharisees. (Read the gospel of John).

[@aim-9sidewinder550]

Lol fuck no, that's a waste of my life time. I have homework and studying work for school, I'd rather do something useful and entertaining. Also why would you want someone to love you? That's fucking weird. Also everyone know how the world really works. There is war, disease, disasters, corruption, death, suffering and government. And all you people do is pray for your god which in return does nothing. People work in order to live and eat, we go to school to learn and understand. We play sports and video games to be happy and distracted. Religious people go to church every day...like we get it. He's your creator, he loves you...he cares about you...and we don't give a shit.

[@Amnersha]

@@aim-9sidewinder550 Jesus loves you, even if you don't want it. Even when we were against Him, He loved us.

[@mrana2424]

Isaac Newton literally rejected the trinity. That was his

[@AllThatJay]

Such an open and respectful discussion is like a stream of fresh air.

[@Ninekillaa]

God knowing all our actions doesnt stop us from having free will. Its important to note that just because he knows our decisions doesn't mean he is influencing them.

[@zac7790]

But if he has a plan for us then we have to follow it.

[@elijahkim4253]

This needs more likes. Exactly what I was thinking.

[@kmasonsos]

He doesn't know our actions. We are separate. Human can create, they created sin. God didn't foresee them creating sin, he gave us the choice to do anything. There is only 1 true mind, and we are all variations of that same mind. God bless you

[@matthewperez1057]

Zac 77 Not everyone follows God’s will for their life. I could make major decisions in my life that God would not want for me, and could end up doing the wrong things, hanging out with the wrong people, ect.

[@taoist32]

TheGreenSamurai And God allows it. If he cared he would prevent you from making stupid and horrible decisions.

[@meaningproof]

As a Muslim, I really appreciate the way David explained Christianity & open mindedly accepts what he believes in. As a follower of Islam I always have that exact questions to ask about it. Of course I don't know everything about everything. but I always appreciate their side of the story & learn from it.

[@elliamaris]

This was such an interesting podcast to listen to. It's nice knowing that I'm a Christian and that there's these guys who also share similar skepticisms and questions as I do. And I love how open minded David, Ryan, and Will were in discussing their questions and beliefs.

[@andriakoblianidze7816]

I have one question. In Nigahiga (Ryan) Christian???

[@elliamaris]

andria koblianidze he’s agnostic, meaning he’s skeptical in the belief of a higher being ☺️

[@timothylee3260]

remunerated instead isn’t it’s and mission accomplished impossible trying doesn’t mean trying it out and it’s not possible but it’s still long term and put serious thought mental illness into an attempt and then it’s just the end result for us and it’s just not the best decision for me also seeing how prayers existed seems like a very long way from being possible bad enough to me so it’s just hard not seeing the point school unemployment plans explained and what the whole situation was and the way that it happened i know it’s hard but it just sucks happened hell exist last night asleep tired truly had it been a while since we talked about that and we were just trying so desperately and both sides were still together yesterday morning early afternoon food comeback tomorrow what is time it was so much more important than 1:00 AM minutes i am now in my way exist not really a good day not happy about it but it was online and it wasn’t the best but it wasn’t the worst thing thanking me tell you stopped not alone teacher

[@JessicaViduya]

I'm Roman Catholic, and David was really accurate in his explanations. I really loved this episode. Much respect to you guys.

[@mannygibbs6432]

I think that this was a really good "off the pill" and I thought that david did a really good job explaining deep concepts that you guys were asking, and also Ryan I dont think God made us do a specific thing like this guy is going to die like this and this guy is going to brush his teeth at this time or whatever I dont think that we are controlled like that, we have a choice to do what we want and most of what we do comes from what we learn as kids like from our parents and how they act and so the influences what we do as we get only.

[@taoist32]

Manny Gibbs God doesn’t control our choices, he creates life. You know who controls us? Other people. Who told you to brush your teeth? Your parents. Who taught them? Their parents. And who taught them? An advertiser from the late 1800’s that proclaimed daily brushing the teeth was good for you. You didn’t have a choice as to brushing your teeth. You may have a choice of when, but you never question whether it’s a Valid health practice.

[@mannygibbs6432]

@@taoist32 I didnt say he controlled us I said the opposite

[@chinesefood7350]

Im Christianity, its said that God doesn't control every one of our choices, but he gave us the power of free will. That's why we can do whatever we want, even bad things that God wouldn't want us to do

[@Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access]

Oh sure, talk about aliens but just ignore us sasquatches

[@ateez_stan777]

Very funny

[@rod880]

😂

[@SSC0002]

Who is your wifi provider?

[@yovitamartono9786]

Reading some of the top comments and I am truly so happy that some people feel the same way. Salute to David Choi for being brave in talking about Christianity in such a way. And salute to Ryan and Will who listened and questioned in a respectful way as well. This was indeed refreshing. One thing that I do 100% agree with David is when he talked about Christianity bringing him Peace in any situation good or bad. Me too David! And that’s why I choose to believe in Jesus to this day!

[@timsetto]

You Can Just Hear The Wisdom Of God In That One Guy.

[@rohanmathew881]

I think one of the main aspects of Christianity people are forgetting in discussions like these and I'm so glad David mentioned it, is FAITH. "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" , so when we start walking by faith and not by sight, you will truly witness God's love for you and he will reveal himself to you in that manner. I pray RHPC really begin to seek the Lord. HE IS REALL

[@jenniferpust]

and then you trip down the stairs because you stopped using your eyes and prayed to one of many gods that he would create a platform for you to walk on. Sadly, he didn't deliver, because there is no god

[@rustictexas2576]

Good job David, you did amazing explaining what you know and believe. Planting the seed to potentially millions!

[@heychelso]

with regards to Ryan’s multiple questions of “how do you know” - there’s one particular thing that the discussion missed out, and that is Christianity is the only religion that which God wants a relationship with His creation. So how do we know about this and that, it’s because we build a relationship with God, get to know Him and therefore we know that we have free will and we know that we can make choices because it’s His design. We choose to be good because we know that that is what God wants for us to choose. And because of this relationship that we have built, we want to honour that. How do you trust the bible that is written by many different scholars to be God’s word? Granted that there are many versions and that it was written by man, there is one common thread - everything that is written in the bible, points to God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. It all points back to God. We can always try to reason things out and understand things, and that is totally healthy. But we will all come to a point where our answers can’t be answered, and then we will have to go by FAITH. And it’s a choice whether you want to go by faith to believe or not. The fact that you’re asking these questions, describes free will. You’re asking them out of your own choice. Whether we go to hell or not, it’s totally up to God to judge and decide. Based on God’s character, He judges with love, He shows grace and mercy, and He is full of patience, He feels our pain, and He feels pain for those who have gone astray and choose to walk away from Him, because after all, He created them who are His children. So He judges based on the life of the individual, how they lived it, how their heart was, etc. So to have a better understanding it’s best to just step into it and experience Him and his love. I hope you do!

[@sirlovable1438]

how is getting to know God concludes we have free will? if his deign makes us choices, why would he design a choice that would end up getting further from him? for example, you are in a bus with 5 kids and the bus' breaks broke down and in front of the road are 2 cancer survivors without any chance of escaping, your choice is to spare the kid's life and save the cancer survivors or the other way around? in the scenario expect that there is no other way to choose. His design is to make a choice where we end up nothing but sin. how is the concept of good in what God wants us to choose from? if you would ask that why did you chose to be in that scenario in the first place? my reply would be well who's design made me choose among its choices?. my point is that there is no point in free will if we would still end up carrying the heavier weight for the sake of building a relationship with God? you may say, when you have a good relationship God, all those weights will be gone. but why bother existentially living a life with having a choice but still chooses the heavier consequence that may or may not even actually exist in the first place (the concept of good and evil) just for the sake of believing that building a relationship with God will solve the problem of dilemma? im not against your thought tho haha i just want to state an argument.

[@27Elisea]

@@sirlovable1438 I believe what the person is trying to get at is God wants us to choose. What I mean by that is regardless of what the road may look like with him, we would still choose it because we love him. In the bible many of the apostles experienced persecution. Even currently in China some are put to death for following God. But for them and many others a life worth God in it is worth risking their lives for. Also God has always given us free will. We can choose to obey or not to. Look at Adam and Eve they both willingly ate of the forbidden tree and that is how sin entered the world. God desires for us to choose him he doesn't force. We should all know when we force something it's not real, like forcing someone to love you. It causes resentments. I hope this makes sense.

[@mrana2424]

Islam also has a mission of God for humans in terms of their relationship with Him.

[@5jwiqiojwio217]

God wants a relationship with his creation in hinduism too

[@HackNSlacker]

Well, the guys that controls you wants you to believe in God and have a relationship with him.

[@AlexGFPV]

Appreciated hearing healthy and respectful discussion. Stefan Gustavsson (Swedish apologist) represents his position very well. I had the pleasure of listening to a presentation of his and was impressed with his ability to answer questions regarding Christianity from a relatively secular perspective rather than and echo chamber sort of response. Feel free to check him out, although I believe his his books are not currently available in English...

[@twix4627]

Growing up I started questioning my faith and now DAVID is giving me answers to my questions.

[@jonathanmatthew2397]

If you got anymore questions Iemme know, my IG is jonathan_.matthew the underscore and period r the other way around

[@TheAnimeDude]

My only criticism for these podcasts is that I wish they were longer.

[@btsforever3570]

We need a podcast with MatPat

[@annmarieoh8134]

This was a great conversation - as an ex-christian / now agnostic person, I can appreciate the risk taken on both sides. It has taken a while but despite me no longer believing in Christianity, I can recognize how it can be needed/ helpful at certain times. But when it starts to feel suppresive, oppressive or becomes a pedestal for one's ego, re-evaluation of one's beliefs is needed. Would love to have been a part of this convo 😊.

[@karastalboerger584]

Ok usually I hate these kind of discussions because it always end up with hate and judgement on what one person believes but this adult and amazing discussion from both sides is honestly something the world needs to see and learn from. Love you guys and thank you for just having a mature conversation! ❤️❤️

[@justinyeung2502]

Thanks David for your sharing, and thanks Ryan for using this platform to ask the real questions! Hopefully Will and Ryan will find the answers to their questions, and stay strong in faith David! God bless everyone!

[@kittyrose4778]

Cool!~😆 I didn’t know David was a Christian~ this was a good episode lol. Oops🤦‍♀️ I forgot about Will halfway through.. 50:59 Christian too~ ^_^

[@nihartley5265]

This reminds me of the conversation I have with my friends (some are of many different religions, and some like myself an atheist) in the middle of the night. I feel that the world would a great place if there were more people who were willing to learn about others experiences and have a nice intellectual conversation on topics that are seen today as controversial. This made my want to have a podcast were I talk with my friends in the future.

[@Tatinahh]

I like learning about other religions and their opinions. I once asked a friend about a religion within the branch of christianity and he dismissed it saying to not bother looking into them because "they're all going to hell." I don't talk to the friend anymore because the ignorance really bothered me.

[@h.j.a.9568]

I've been a fan of the channel for years. I definitely don't dislike Ryan and I don't feel like he was being anti-Christian. I'm a Christian and it's really refreshing and fascinating to listen to a couple of friends respectively and openly discuss a topic like this. Good on you guys!

[@KirbyPhelpsPK]

Religion is always a super touchy subject, but I think you guys discussed it with a lot of maturity on both sides. Kudos.

[@nh-te3zp]

Dear Ryan can you please do more dear Ryan's

[@dianimkashung9935]

Was gonna comment the same lol

[@frmyt1135]

Underrated

[@seraphim6786]

Hey super cool podcast - I just wanted to share some thoughts I had as someone interested in theology and philosophy (I am a Christian myself and plan to study these subjects further in uni.) On the question of free will - I do affirm free will (Christian views on the matter vary a lot from total free will to no free will) Relating to God's foreknowledge, to keep it as simple as I can, God's knowledge doesn't dictate what happens so much as what happens dictates what God knows. Because that's what it is, knowledge. God isn't sitting in the past knowing what's ahead undeniably, but rather exists outside of time (in a present tense sorta way) knowing all the past and seeing the whole present and future (knowing all possibilities) - by our free will we actualize our own actions, this extends to beliefs. I wasn't born a Christian, but chose to become one. (Think Nature vs Nurture). So bad people are born with choice laid before them and they choose their path apart from the laws God has for how we are to live. (I hope this wasn't to much big heady philosophy - I just have looked into this a lot. Like A LOT.) And really quick (since you touched on a lot of things) how do we know Christianity is true as opposed to any other belief system? Simple answer: Historical Evidence that Jesus rose from the dead. (Which would verify His claims, such as claims to be divine, etc.) Mini-Essay, over. Edit: Also I hope I didn't sound like a know-it-all, which I've been told often I come across as; sorry. Just a little bit obsessed with philosophy. (only a *tiny* obsession with philosophy) Edit 2: I think the YT channel InspiringPhilosophy does an amazing job explaining and arguing for Christianity from a scholarly, philosophical and logical perspective.

[@jasonsomers8224]

Thanks for taking the time to explain all this complicated explanations/theories

[@unispeck2853]

I’m gonna check out InspiringPhilosophy. Thanks for the recommend.

[@kelsa-mv5gp]

I would love to see a podcast with a pastor. Maybe Steven Furtick. He’s a pretty well known pastor and open to discussing these topics. Check out his interview with Charlamagne. Anyways loved the discussion!

[@souththeyoutuber]

kelsa1010 Steven Furtick would be perfect for this, cos he’s a pastor who would help a person understand instead of judging and jumping into assumptions

[@user-jb1ie8qc7y]

mmmm.... I don't know if he'd be very helpful for someone like Ryan. They need someone more logical, like maybe Tim Keller or Matt Chandler, or even Francis Chan.

[@kelsa-mv5gp]

Bodi Cannon To each his own buddy

[@kelsa-mv5gp]

Tim Willson Good point. Although I think any of them are well studied and intelligent enough on the subject matter to hold a good conversation.

[@user-jb1ie8qc7y]

@@kelsa-mv5gp true. It's good that there are so many teachers who come from different backgrounds and have different focusses to reach different kinds of people. I love God's family!

[@layla309]

Please do more podcasts like this Ryan with people of other faiths!! Would be so interesting and insightful💖

[@DrDolan2000]

And it's nice to see them talking about all these things. I'm used to seeing Ryan as this funny dude but he's also really smart and deep. One of the reasons why he's awesome

[@zakmilson5488]

David was so well spoken and represented Christianity extremely well

[@hancao5368]

omg the questions ryan asks are literally the ones I have during my 2am showers

[@jakobsalvador2489]

HanCao if you’re really an open minded person, you should look up cross examined by frank turek. He’s an apologist that answers these types of questions

[@ezethapa1755]

Loving the podcasts man 👌🤣It says in the Bible many times that babies that die do not go to hell. One of the most helpful verses that i found is this: Deuteronomy 1:39 English Standard Version (ESV) 39 And as for your little ones, who you said would become a prey, and your children, who today have no knowledge of good or evil, they shall go in there. And to them I will give it, and they shall possess it.

[@ethanaquino7027]

Nice

[@TheMoMoBigGC]

This line refers to the holy land not heaven. You can use this as an example of Yahweh's opinion on children but is not definitive

[@jasonsomers8224]

If you look at the context of the rest of the chapter, it is clear that this is talking about the promised land (israel) not heaven.

[@vcrashthegreat]

You can find passages that may suggest what you are saying but this is not one of them

[@zachhales215]

Way to go David. It’s always hard to stand up for what you believe in and opinions you believe in and I believe God is guiding you and Ryan.

[@patrickballou1]

I’m a Christian and I agree with a lot of what you guys said, however, there were some really important points/questions I wish I could’ve been there to answer or clarify. I found this very interesting and I enjoyed your approach to it.

[@CluelessPictures]

Michael Jones from Inspiring Philosophy would be a great person to talk with about Christianity with. I know he'd be willing to come on your show.

[@christiandanario]

Lets see if this can gain attention :)

[@zhane4009]

Who needs science, when we got ALGEBRYAN

[@jjsouls6986]

We have the force. But fuck disneys version

[@halibelboy1746]

JJ souls Thanks for ruining the joke

[@katielui131]

Don't mean to sound creepy or anything but I have gone through 97% of the questions Ryan raised about Christianity, aliens and all the stuff in my mind maze. I'm just imagining myself if we could know each other personally and like be friends in person and have a chat about human existence, free will, philosophical ideas and whatnot -- that'd just be cool. It's just amazing how listening to these real talks, and with me having these talks with my few close friends, I realise that we are all so different in that we all have our different stances we choose to take and beliefs that we hold dearly to in our hearts, but we could also be so similar in so many ways. It's almost a feeling that the entire human population is all different, and we loving that diversity, but also so the same, if that makes sense. As a Christian, I recognise that every Christian has their own interpretation of the same bible, has their own beliefs of what they feel like "God's plan" is for them (i.e. you might think that A is best for this person but he/she feels like his/her calling is to do B and that's just a belief really, no justification can be made coz there's no basis on which it can be made). Furthering that point, I do think that as with every other opinion one has, it can be reasoned with the system the opinion originated from; ultimately, we all have our beliefs and opinions based on a set of things that work tgt and a combination of conditions that e.g. society operates on. But does this mean that all religions are just cults? I don't think so. That might well be because I already believe that God exists and that's the most all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving, eternal God (and that, you might also think is just my concept of God from what I learnt from the Bible which is also what *I* *believe* is true to *me*, and so it all makes sense to *me*). But here's the point where I have arrived at this moment of life -- Christianity or really just any religion out there should not need to be convincing, because when a person believes in God, I personally don't think they need to be, or really SHOULD be *convinced* that it is a *true* faith. Because if we have absolutely all the evidence that a faith is true, then it is not even a faith already, it's just a fact. So at this point it is almost like not being able to sound convincing or not being able to be convinced by a religion is actually *giving* value and meaning to itself being faith. Thus I do believe that the desire to spread the gospel/good news (about Jesus/God is the Saviour!) should not come from a place of trying too hard to *prove* that Chrisitianity is true, even though I truly believe it's the one true faith. There also goes the saying that the best way to spread the gospel is someone's testimony, how they live their lives. It's the love, knowing that God loves us even if we are mere humans, rebelled against God, completely unworthy of this perfect God's love, that comes from God and emanates to all people equally no matter where you're from what youre up to, etc etc. This is, to me, what actually matters, and would change non-christians' perspective to Christianity. So the point is not to try to prove that youre right, coz everyone from every religion would do the same from their perspective -- and it's okay, we're all learning. I also like to think that if something is true, it is true; if you don't think that it is true, you have a billion reasons to *think* that it is not true. Side note, I have never really been a person who fancies histories but I have heard that one of the reasons why Christianity is still one of the biggest faith across the globe is really down to the history. Coz the bible isn't just some stories, it's letters, poems, books written by different people that were compiled into this one bible. And I heard that a huge part of the faith is really down to the matching histories. I have never looked into it since my belief isn't based on how matching the bible is to the world history, and also with all the things ia have just mentioned up there about how I think trying to prove that "my faith is right yours is wrong" is not really the way to do it in my opinion, but this could be something that is worth considering as well for some people who are particularly keen on arguing the legitimacy of the bible.

[@Rosela1996]

It's a good thing that David was honest enough to admit that he doesn't have all the answers. In Christianity, just when you think you know enough, you realise that you will keep on discovering new things in the Bible untill the day you die. Christians need to know that it is ok to say "I don't know" sometimes, rather than trying to answer anyway, out of fear that they may look ignorant.

[@alexaknaupp2479]

I am a Christian and I found the conversations around 35:00 and 42:00 interesting because my faith does believe, as a fundamental part of our doctrine, that people who die without learning about Christ etc will be judged mercifully in the next life. I'm glad that I've been brought up with that knowledge! :)