Harley vs. Indian 2025: Which Bike Reigns Supreme?

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[@christopherw4527]

Are you two guys married? I just noticed a butt buffer banner on the video. Either way don't matter, but I appreciate the video. I'd have to drive 6 hours to get to a polaris dealer.

[@KHender]

I own a Harley, however I completely agree that the competition between Harley and Indian creates a better product for all motorcycle enthusiasts!

[@RyanUrlacher]

Rock on!!

[@guysmiley8473]

Harley customers are their own worse enemy. Imagine if they embraced the V-rod. Harley would have had a 100 hp liquid cooled twin bagger in like 2009.

[@johnspringer3951]

As a former harley-davidson rider, I'll choose my 2002 Honda Gold Wing. 1,832cc flat-six liquid-cooled engine that delivers 117 hp at 5,500 rpm and 121 lb-ft torque with peak power at 4,000 rpm. Electric adjustable pre-load rear mono-shock, Adjustable clutch and brake levers, linked brakes, shaft drive, reverse, remote trunk and side bags. All stock from the factory in Ohio, USA! Yes, a 2002 Goldwing was so far ahead of these motorcycles coming out now.

[@vmonk1474]

I rode Harleys for thirty years, and have a Pursuit now. I’m not anti-Harley but damn I love this bike. My favorite thing is how good it handles the curves. I won’t be trading my 108 for a 112, but I’m glad it’s available for fans of batwing fairings.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Appreciate the insight and thanks for watching!

[@dobzz20]

King of baggers indian

[@WWADV]

As to the pricing between the brands... the rubber meets the road with the financing. HD average finance % is 12% with most dealers adding at least 2% (points) to that 12%, jumping it up to 14% starting for buyers with decent credit. I have found most Indian dealers are financing their bikes at 7.99% for those with decent credit. This alone will make up for most of the price difference between the brands.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for sharing that insight! It's definitely worth considering.

[@AyaWetts]

You can get financing elsewhere

[@randymarks4011]

I'm still riding my Harleys from the 70s and 80s, if there were Indians in that era I would have them too.

[@michaelschmitzerle2587]

Love those American made Indian motorcycles❣️ They just keep getting better and better 👍

[@BrewCityRider]

Thanks guys, that was good information. It struck me as very odd that the Street Glide and Road Glide were priced so differently for basically the same bike. I believe the only difference is in the fairing.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Correct, fairing is the only difference. Same bikes. . Thanks for watching.

[@mk7machinist687]

I rode a chief bobber and street bob as well as lowrider s before making my purchase. I could instantly tell based on my “butt dyno” the Indian accelerated fastest. particularly in sport mode. It also had better stock suspension and a better fit and finish. It also has better brakes and many other things stock v stock. For me at the time what killed the Indian was aftermarket support as well as availability in general. Because ultimately, no matter how good the Indian was there was still a lot to be done for it to really be the bike I want. Let alone not being able to choose color I wanted much less other options unless I wanted to wait minimum 6 months and have a bike made to order from Indian. Things like better seat, exhaust, different bars, potential touring setup, with preferable quick release windshield and removable bags. On and on. When I was in the market for a bike, it was next to impossible to find anything for an Indian. And aftermarket upgrades for the Harley were plentiful. I chose the Harley, and in the long run am glad I did. I enjoy modifying my bike and despite having to deal with less than satisfactory oem parts, there is a plethora of aftermarket support to get you where you want to be. Plus the Harley while still admit-tingly rough in some way for the price, had a nostalgic “feel” that Is important to me on a motorcycle. Call me crazy, as I’m sure I’m the minority on this. But I felt the Indian was too refined. Little things like how easy and light the clutch was to pull, bothered me. Also the lack of the aggressive and audible upshifts. Preferred analog or no gauge above digital with driving modes. I’m confident I don’t need modes to drive in wet or less than favorable driving conditions. Good tires and throttle control go a long way. Ultimately I don’t feel like I’ve missed out on anything by getting my Harley, especially after TBR, cam and tune. Also With better suspension now too. Surely give that Indian a run for its money now 😅

[@kevingonyea]

OK a couple of things, 1st the Thunderstroke motor is 116 c.i., 2nd the Chieftain Powerstroke Limited 108 (122hp, 126 torque) is$27,499.00

[@RyanUrlacher]

You can't compare an older motor form Indian, the 108. We explain in the video.our criteria. This was a comparison of the latest from both companies. Otherwise we'd have to use an older motor from HD. This is the NEW stuff they have to offer. Head to head. thx for watching.

[@kevingonyea]

@@RyanUrlacher If you are comparing the bikes price and engine numbers the Chieftain Powerstroke 108 and the H-D streetglide are very close in both categories, just so your viewers know. Ride safe

[@fifthgearfoodie5272]

Great review. I just want to add that the Victory Vision had linked brakes when it first came out in 2008. So, technically Polaris came out with linked brakes before Harley.

[@AppleFanX2]

Thanks for a well done, unbiased, comparison.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Appreciate it!

[@steveross2797]

Where I live it's become Harley by default. There are no longer any of the big bore Japanese cruisers imported (Goldwing aside) and the Indian dealer dropped the brand due to low sales. The only other option is the Triumph Rocket 3 but I don't see that as a viable long distance tourer (no decent touring storage or a touring screen). So, like it or not, it looks like it's a Harley in my future when my Triumph Thunderbird gives up the ghost!

[@aaronzavala7464]

You're forgetting that the Chieftain has the powerplus 108 available that's cheaper

[@mickcathey]

Exactly. There are several things that are tilted one way in this comparison. Oh well, they both make good bikes, but by the numbers it's hard to deny which is a better buy right now.

[@aaronzavala7464]

@mickcathey Yeah it really comes down to preference. Budget is almost a wash. I own both brands and both have pros and cons. I mean I've been riding for years and started even before ABS was a thing and I'm still here. Alot of things that sound good on paper I feel just ain't needed but forces us to pay more. I'm sticking with my older models with less bells and whistles. I mean... it's less stuff to go faulty

[@RyanUrlacher]

We know, but we explain in the video thoroughly our criteria for comparison. Harley makes older motors too. That was not the comparison. This is the NEW offerings from both companies. Not an older 108.

[@bradlozano2571]

I think that Indian finally made a Bike i could own and love....The Batwing Challenger with the 108 for 26,499....BUT....I swore to myself i wouldnt give a Dime to Polaris after what they did to Victory ( I was the proud owner of a 2006 Kingpin for 14 years).....I would still have it but couldnt get new engine parts for a rebuild for the Freedom 100.....So now am a HD rider and i can find any parts i need...I will keep my TC because HD is making Electronic Nightmares and skimping on fit finish after the 2023 models...

[@StevenZerwas]

We’d welcome you back to the Indian family. I had a CCT and a Vision before I purchased my first Indian motorcycle. I’m glad I did. Yes, I was mad, like you. But I eventually got over it and I am loving my 2023 Pursuit Darkhorse Icon metallic white/black/red combination.

[@bradlozano2571]

@@StevenZerwas I look at life this way....Burn Me once shame on You...Burn Me twice shame on Me...

[@StevenZerwas]

@@bradlozano2571 I hear you loud and clear. I’m happy I went that direction. Even gave up the latest generation GoldWing to make the switch and I never regretted that decision. Good luck. 👍🏼

[@dieselsoggydog6299]

Glad you explained the clutch Indian uses. Test drove an Indian and could not figure out what was going on with that bike. My 2020 Harley RGL has that hold control. Harley CVOs in the past had remote saddle bag locks, don't know if the new ones have it though.

[@HowardHunt-s7z]

Good comparison. Just The Facts!

[@RyanUrlacher]

Rock on!! Thanks

[@limadelta2]

Own a Road Glide, but I have to say that the Indian suspension is much, much better than what Harley offers. The only way to 'fix' a Harley is by giving Wilbers, Ohlins or Legends a call.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Rock on!! pros and cons to each

[@wrongthinker350]

For the price of a Harley it should come with top rated suspension right from the factory.

[@Dirk1961-l7y]

Youre right about that. The suspension, especially on a “special” is horrible and to low! For a bike of €40.000 you may expect resend suspension. I have broomsticks on the rear🤡

[@limadelta2]

@@Dirk1961-l7y I installed Wilbers on my Road Glide and they really made a very noticeable difference. Can't believe that HD sells these high $$ bikes with only 2"-3" of suspension travel. That is really a punishing ride and, as you said, after spending big dollars you'd expect something that worked better. I have two other bikes. A BMW R1200RT and a Yamaha FJR 1300. Those bikes are a pleasure on a long ride. The Road Glide is too....NOW. It shouldn't have to take $2500-3000 to make a bike ride the way it is supposed to. OH, the Road Glide has 117,000 miles on the clock so I really do like riding it. It's just that suspension is SO very important to get a good riding experience and HD R&D should take an Indian for a long ride to see how a proper factory setup performs.

[@thetraveler5798]

That was an enjoyable review on things between this two manufacturers. Like the way if your presentation. 👏👏👍❗ PS; one question on the Indian front/back suspension travel you said front 4 something MM and back was in 4.5 I believe inches of travel. Isn't the front also in inches? It did I misunderstood always try to learn about things and the people that know more about a particular subject thank you.! Blessings y'all ❗ 🙏🕊️🙏

[@LyfewithDK]

Really like that Indian Chieftain. Can't wait to test ride it

[@RyanUrlacher]

Rock on!!

[@grimflipz]

I like Indians , but Harley for me due to the customizations that can be done not to mention all the dealers support. All the Indians look very similar no room to customize like a Harley

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@mickeygaines007]

@@grimflipz and not only that most Indians are copycats that don’t look near as good. Halrey is killing it with the Low rider st, what rolls out of Indians garage this year? They threw a lousy excuse for bags on what was already a copycat. So they have a copy of a copy.

[@myronmosley2167]

I have to disagree with you there. Yea, Harley has more dealerships, to expect Indian to have equal to or more dealerships than Harley at this point in Polaris’ history of owning the brand is absurd. However, when it comes to customizations, that’s really no longer an issue when you consider the actual customizations generally being made to Harleys, Indian is right there with them at this point. Yes there are more third party options but let’s be real, most Harley guys are buying all the same aftermarket parts and if they’re not the same they generally look the same. Very few (in comparison to the whole) of people “customizing” their bikes aren’t very original. Which is crazy because everybody always talks about customization options being so vast but then they “customize” their bikes with the same stuff everybody else is using. Generally speaking the biggest differences you see between Harley’s is the color of the bike itself.

[@mickeygaines007]

@@myronmosley2167 at least you can disagree without being an ass! I’ll talk to people like that. No doubt the aftermarket for Indians is growing each day and continuing to improve. Still a bit short! And honestly they don’t have the number of dealers but are spaced fairly well. Could probably still get help most places if you needed. I think Harley is still far ahead in looks! That’s very subjective! The competition is good and very close right get now. Harley has upped the game to where it’s splitting hairs at this point.

[@chasingtrail]

It would be Indian hands down for me if I had a dealer closer than 3 hours away. There are 5 Harley dealers between me and the nearest Indian dealer. If I have an issue, my local dealer will come pick up my bike. If I have an issue with an Indian, I'm renting a trailer and spending all day driving to take the bike to the dealer and then probably another day of that to go pick it up. I wish Polaris would enable their dealerships to work on Indians. Plenty of Polaris dealers near me.

[@specialed5098]

Both bikes are amazing the performance ,handling price etc are almost equal the bottom line are dealership and factory support at events. Most weekends you can find something to do or see at the majority of dealers. Indian, Honda, BMW are closed and at any event Daytona, Sturgis etc. Harley-Davidson dominates with displays rides etc. It's like your favorite mom and pop restaurant or coffee shop you get the personal attention with Harley

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! It's definitely a big part of the ownership experience.

[@benschreiner6445]

I rode every motorcycle I could during the fall ride demos this year in Tomahawk. Harleys and Indians both. Overall, the Harleys just felt easier to ride and handle. To easch their own.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for sharing

[@randomstuffwithjoe]

When you mentioned the right foot heat.. its the placement of the header pipe. I get it on my 22 Chieftain with the Thunderstroke motor too. I notice it more when I have the lower close-outs attached to the crash bars.. but when I take them off I don't notice it as much. So I think the lowers trap that heat and it can really feel uncomfortable on your right ankle. And when you compared prices.. you weren't exactly honest on that comparison. Base vs base models.. you can get into the base Chieftain with the 108CI power plus for $26,599. So Indian base model actually comes in $1250 less than the HD base model.

[@jasonp1177]

It's the catalytic converter location it's right by your foot. New exhaust and it's gone.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks. Disagree. We explained that in the video. You can't compare an olde Indian motor, the 108. A head to head needs both of the newest offerings from the companies. The 112 PowerPlus and the 117 M8. Standard in these models. Certainly the 108 from Indian, older motor, will be cheaper. As are the smaller and older HD motors. You have go head to head as close as you can with the latest and greatest offerings. . Thanks for watching.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Hopefully they can rectify that situation on stock models in the future. Maybe the 112ci. We'll see when I test ride and review. Don't get that heat on my HD touring.

[@mickcathey]

@ Harley's newest offering would be the 121.

[@davidmitchell7005]

Guys, the Power Plus is a 60 degree V Twin. 60, not 16.

[@michaelowens1183]

@@davidmitchell7005 The M8 has water cooled heads and they work great. Long stroke engines are lower rpm due to higher piston speeds

[@michaelowens1183]

Both brands work good. Cheers.

[@davidmitchell7005]

@@michaelowens1183 no one was arguing over brands. I was correcting misinformation

[@michaelowens1183]

@@davidmitchell7005 it’s all good buddy

[@RyanUrlacher]

Yes, we are aware. We had a ton of things to go over rand shot multiple videos. LOL, we made a mistake. thx for watching.

[@davemeshamsr6000]

If not looking for a bagger but a more sport oriented bike as say a second bike option for spirited riding…What about the Indian 1200? Not sure of the name or model but I was just in a shop that had one and it seems like a great sport/touring bike..great looks and apropovic exhaust brembo breaks reasonably priced…what’s you think?

[@DonGoldstein-b7q]

The Indian is a better motorcycle on every usable level. Harley-Davidson is an excellent motorcycle that has an untouchable pedigree and ownership experience. If I was looking for the best motorcycle to ride, especially long distance, I would take the Indian hands down.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts!

[@bigk5746]

Hey man, not sure what drugs you're doing but get some help.

[@snowyriver3]

Well I have a lot of time on both Harleys and Indians. I watched your video and even though you say your not for one brand over the other several times. You seem to be very much a Harley guy with all your comments. Not only what you say but what you don't say. Not once did you say the Indian has a superior ride. Yes the 2024 was a big step up but in my opinion the Indians are worlds ahead. I like your channel and I buy from your store when possible and will continue. Its just this video rubbed me wrong. I am over it now. 😁

[@jimrhoads9075]

I think the Indian Pursuit is a great looking bike and the tech is amazing, but I love my Harley's. Last year I was finally able to purchase my Whiskey Neat CVO. By far the best looking and handling bike I ever owned. Well my old sport bikes handled better but those days are behind me. Can't see me ever getting rid of this one.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for your comment! It's great you're enjoying the bike you have.

[@Greenjeans2020]

My biggest issue with Indian is the transmission and engine are integral. So if the transmission or engine needs work, the whole unit must be disassembled.

[@mickcathey]

You mean like every other modern motorcycle engine on the planet except one. It doesn't happen often enough to justify having 2 separate components, which requires more running gears and robs power.

[@Greenjeans2020]

@@mickcathey I ran a one man Harley repair shop and was a Manufacturing Engineer at Harley and other engine manufacturers. . It is much easier to repair a Harley transmission vs Indian, it also allows using gear lube instead of engine oil to lubricate the gears, which is why they make gear lube. More running gears and robs power? Where did you get that info from? Indian has a separate primary just like Harley. The big difference is the engine and transmission being one unit. This is about Harley vs Indian and not all the brands out there.

[@mickcathey]

@Greenjeans2020 But most of the others don't break near as often, so there's that.

[@Greenjeans2020]

@@mickcathey Again where did you get this info from? Sounds like conjecture on your part. I have over 400K miles on Harleys. I have never had to repair any of my transmissions on my big twins yet. I use gear lube in them and don't beat my bikes. I had to rebuild the transmission on my 1979 Sportster due to a factory defect. Again it was a rather easy fix as then they had a removable door to remove the guts. Later sportsters did not have this door. Which means you must split the engine cases to fix it. Stupid move on Harley's part.

[@jl088]

No, both companies were bought by Polaris. They stopped making Victory’s and Indian continues on as their own brand owned by Polaris.

[@trudgyhd]

when comparing the m8 to the new Indian power plus, which version of the 3 varients of the 117 did you use for compare?

[@RyanUrlacher]

We were on the subject of touring models, so a touring 117 such as the Street Glide. Understand, a cruiser such as the Harley Low Rider ST, will have the high output variant of that 117 motor, so it will have 114 HP @ 5,000 RPM and 128 ft. lbs of torque. There are three variants to the M8 117 as we've discussed on other videos. We were comparing touring in this portion of the video, so we stuck with the touring M8 117 setup. Hope that helps you. Ride safe.

[@serbanlucian419]

Street Glide is more nimble and lighter.Also the colors,fit and finish is over Indian.But yeah,Indian all day!🙂

[@wonderful_Himself7]

Indian life is BEAUTIFUL! Left Harley 11 yrs ago. Got tired of buying bikes & then buying another one in upgrades so that my Harley would ride better/cams etc for decent power…..But I tell everyone,ride what you like…..

[@sdmascar8905]

Love the new fairing of indian but not a fan of the powerplus. Perfer the air cooled looks and feel. I have a scout bobber and it is a good bike but does not have the soul of my street glide. The thunderstroke is a beautiful enfine and i hope they improve it but harley has ledt them in the dust in air cooled enfine. Hope indian catches up and prospers

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@dexterdava6529]

My 2015 RG Ultra CVO has the remote locking bags (saddle & trunk).

[@RyanUrlacher]

Yes CVO's do. Should be standard on all touring. IMO

[@usmcvet0313]

For me, I think Indian is winning in the entry line with the Scouts, and HD is winning in the cruiser line with the Softails. For the touring line, it’s a wash. Though I prefer the HD touring line for engine character, better low speed handling, & better throttle body response. You can’t go wrong with either brand. I do think $3k for the 112 Power Plus for a 4 HP/ 5 ft-lbs increase is not a good deal. The added tech is the only real benefit of the the 112, they should have done more with the motor to justify the price in my opinion.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for your insight!

[@martyboddie9953]

The base model chieftain with the thunder stroke 111 is only $23,999. The thunder stroke 111 only has 119 ft pounds of torque compared to the Harley with 130. The power plus limited 112 is a better head to head comparison. But you can buy the base model chieftain for less than the base model Harley Street Glide.

[@martyboddie9953]

Just after making my comment, your video addressed what I just said. I guess I should have kept listening before commenting.

[@RyanUrlacher]

hahahahah. NO problem at alll. Ride safe.

[@krogersucks45]

How do you do a comparison if you don't ride them yourself ?

[@RyanUrlacher]

I actually have ridden and reviewed multiple Indian motorcycles. Welcome to the channel.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

My 2008 Buell Thunderstorm is 103 HP and 500# I smoke the Big Cube Harleys with it all of the time.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Cool bike, but not a touring bike.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

@@RyanUrlacher My 2008 Buel Ulysess is a Sports Touring Bike ..It came with Side Cases. and a Top Case. I pass Cruisers like they are sitting still on a curvy road. It has a very comfortable seat and upright riding position. The Wind buffering was bad so I upgraded to a Morstad windscreen.. Turns out that design was used by Buell in 2009 they last year they were made before HD Spent $116 Million to shut down the new Buell Factory. The Buell has an oil cooler with an air scoop. Air Scoops to direct air to the rear cylinder. Piston oilers. and a thermostatically controlled cooling fan. It has wide comfortable handle Bars with heated Grips like a dirt Bilke. I have no desire to own a bike with forward controls. The Pan American is the only interesting bike that HD sells to me.

[@travisgray3331]

I just went and looked at Indians and they are way beyond Harley in touring comfort and tech. Harley obviously has a cult following as I have a 21 RG CVO but I’m a realist and see Indian years beyond Harley

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for the comments. I love both. Interestingly, saying Indian is "way beyond Harley in tech?" Harley has an entirely integrated digital dash system called the IFCU, while Indian is still using their antiquated 7" Ride Command dash unit that's still not updated. So, just for conversation, I'm not sure that Indian is far ahead in "tech". They are ahead with inverted front forks and radial mounted brakes. Thanks again for the conversation.

[@travisgray3331]

@ True that…. I should’ve clarified when I made that comment that yes Harley did come out with a full digital dash but I believe Indian now is putting on side sensors and other means of traffic alertness, as well as just the sheer performance parts on the bikes… Like you mentioned inverted forks and of course Brembo brakes, electric windshields, heated and cooled seats, full locking saddlebags with the key fob. I just think for the money you’re getting more machine by going Indian

[@martyboddie9953]

The Road Glide starts at $27,999 not $30,000.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Yes, so sorry we made that mistake.

[@martyboddie9953]

@@RyanUrlacher No big deal, it happens to all of us.

[@oneofmanyte3321]

Then add 7-10k in city markup for Harley

[@rico5395]

What does metric feel mean?

[@Brian-zg9ff]

If you need hill start assist on your motorcycle then you should sign up for the beginner msf course at your local community college….

[@flyfshjimsinclair3981]

It's not a need thing it is a luxury thing. :-)

[@travisgray3331]

😂😂…you don’t need it but again…it’s added luxury if your wallet can take the hit

[@AyaWetts]

We are happy you are a perfect big strong man and can do everything in all situations... here's your medal. 🏅

[@travisgray3331]

@@AyaWetts 😂😂👍🏻

[@Dirk1961-l7y]

I did a testdrive on a 2021 used Roadmaster…it wasn’t that for me. Bad brakes and everything was rattling on the fairing…(plus they gave me ‘a tip’ trade in price for my RKS 2023). I will stick to HD for the rest of my live….The base model 2025 SG is raised €1200. Now €38.300,00. A SG black/black does €41.000,00!!!!! Here in holland. Maybe add a “delivery' fee from €700 to that. I don't buy with loan so a new one is out of the question for me. Just bought a gorgeous slightly used, Industrial Yellow/Vivid Black RGS from 2024 (it saves -€10,000:-)

[@Dirk1961-l7y]

I know a guy with Wilbers on his RKS but isn’t satisfied. It does cost €3300 here all in. So I swap my (classic RK with 1” more travel)) 13” on my every bike and this is oke in holland and Luxembourg But when I travel in other countries it is harsh with the bad roads in Germany, tsjechië, italy, Hungary and so on… I change bikes every year so it is not worth to change for me..

[@mickeygaines007]

Harley has closed the gap to where it’s a matter of preference now. They still have a mile lead in looks, dealer network, and aftermarket. Specs and tech are so close. I’ll always feel Harley wins in looks by a mile

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@AnthonyHorner-q1v]

The Road Glide is just under 28,000 not 30,000 and something like 250 more than a Street Glide.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Yes.

[@AnthonyHorner-q1v]

@@RyanUrlacherI really did appreciate your review of the two different manufacturers. Highlighting the prose and cons of both brands. Great job 👍

[@billortloff4215]

I've owned both. I now own Roadmaster. The ride and radio are phenomenally better than anything else I've ridden. There's zero service in Wyoming and Montana for Indian. The heat is bad on my Roadmaster. The harley bags are more user friendly.

[@mickcathey]

There's a dealer in Billings now.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for the comments and for watching.

[@billortloff4215]

@@mickcathey I dud not know that thank you.

[@markmcintosh7095]

I would own one, but there are no dealers in my area.

[@QuinnTales-sq5pl]

Love watching the videos especially your trips. I agree competition is good but at what price for Indian. I am an Indian rider and like so many current Indian owners were drawn to them because of the look and styling. This has changed year on year and the new power plus bat faring is a direct copy of the HD not sure why they would cut it back so much. When you view one up close you see the size of the deflectors that are on each side how can the new bat fairing be a better aerodynamic shape when the old one had not deflectors at all? Also the lack of colours is a surprise some that are missing are again iconic colours that made Indian unique. Like for like HD will still win, here in the UK there are over 52,000 registered HD's and Indian have sales of around 6,000 in 10 years. Since 2021 sales have been declining since they started changing the styling from the iconic look. The main surprise was the Chieftain it should of been called the Challenger Classic. Still love the look but its not a classic Indian look. Their marketing and lack of customer service is heading down the same road as Victory?

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@guysmiley8473]

Indian motorcycle company died. It's disturbing that they are allowed to act as if there is some kind of link between Polaris and Indian motorcycle company. They should have kept the Victory brand but I guess the gamble worked because people bought it.

[@billwright9256]

I thought Windjammer invented the shark farring. I know I was riding a Honda 750 with one in 1980

[@RyanUrlacher]

Harley was the first to put a batwing faring on a touring bike.

[@dobzz20]

Engine is so much better just a fact

[@martyneilan8947]

Harley has the torque and horsepower lower where you need it on a cruiser or touring bike.

[@RyanUrlacher]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@alaindecelles9373]

Chieftain has 116 ci not 111

[@RyanUrlacher]

Yes, thx. We weren't using that for any comparison, so it's a wash. Just misspoke. Thx for watching.

[@earlkozak6538]

16° V Twin?

[@RyanUrlacher]

Yes, mistake. 60 degree. We had a lot of info and screwed that up. LOL. thx for watching.

[@earlkozak6538]

@RyanUrlacher Love the channel

[@bringbacklifepd1265]

I say. It’s going to go down to opinion. He trying to look for his new bike.

[@mrclay1964]

Harley Davidson only for me

[@themopar426]

im white and not woke ill buy the indian!

[@jlducey]

It's 60⁰ not 16

[@RyanUrlacher]

Yes, sorry for the mistake. We had a ton to go over.

[@bshay1993]

I love my Indian. Better engines, suspension and brakes. Tech is also better. All around a better bike

[@RyanUrlacher]

Watch the video. Tech is definitely better on Harley this year and in 2024 via the IFCU. We unpack a lot in the video.

[@BigBadAllis]

I have a 23 Indian Pursuit Elite. H-D just surpassed Indian tech with their latest bikes. There's no question that HD just stepped up their game. I'll give Indian the only thing nicer is the blind spot monitoring.

[@brianirons3958]

That info system for Harley has been a nightmare the complaints from customers are numerous. That's one of the reasons dealerships are still sitting on tons of leftover 24s that they are giving away.

[@JKJeepZilla]

​@@RyanUrlacher Harley STILL doesn't offer an adjustable windshield. They don't offer electronic control shock adjustment. They also don't offer remote lock saddlebags on anything but cvo. Harley needs to up their game bc Indian is leaving them in the rear view mirror. Also, Harley didn't invent the fairing fyi.

[@Noneofurbusinesseh]

@@RyanUrlacher I have had both harley and indian and I prefer the indian hands down.

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Indian is the old Victory isn't it ? Basically Polaris ATV's

[@dobzz20]

You dont own indian

[@Neveralone412]

Old fart ride aggressive 🤣

[@ronss1]

Buy a Harley, find a good mechanic, u will need one

[@RyanUrlacher]

I have many bikes. No need for a mechanic. I've worked on both Harley's and Indians. Ride safe. Be free.

[@Noneofurbusinesseh]

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