Ryen Russillo talks Urban Meyer departure from Jags, Steph Curry, Mac Jones-Tom Brady | THE HERD

Ryen Russillo joins Colin Cowherd to talk Urban Meyer's departure from the Jacksonville Jaguars and what could have possibly went wrong. They also discuss New England Patriots' Mac Jones growth, development, and the comparisons to Tom Brady. Ryen talks Golden State Warriors' Stephen Curry's record-setting performance against the New York Knicks and his legacy going forward.
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Ryen Russillo talks Urban Meyer departure from Jags, Steph Curry, Mac Jones-Tom Brady | THE HERD
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[@jamesdman7193]

My guy Ryen Russillo 🐐

[@jakepeterson5243]

If he’s your guy you’d know its Ryen

[@Ryantheman21]

Ryan the man hey

[@watchman9198]

O’Ryen as his close friends call him

[@paulprigge1209]

Yeah I miss the man. Pretty objective

[@stansdad1]

SVP and Russillo were awesome together at ESPN

[@julienforletta7896]

Smartest thing the jags did . Couldn’t wait another week. A young QBs first 2, maybe 3 years is everything for them , no matter how talented. He is not even close to as bad as he looked this year

[@jenniferrenolds2226]

Used to watch these two guys back on the mothership2. Awesome to see then together in 2021

[@Zoggosh]

Saying steph wouldnt work in the 80s is basically like saying modern firearms wouldn’t be effective in the 1500s

[@sage1336]

They would have shut him down in the 80’s, pounded & fouled him he would bow out a lot they used to play defense & didn’t let guys just jack up three pointers all night, you see the NBA use to be tuff competitive league now it’s a shoe commercial until the playoffs

[@Yplayallday]

@@sage1336 you are miserable 😂

[@Zoggosh]

@@sage1336 So instead of shooting 3's all game he'd shoot FT's instead. I don't disagree that the game is softer, but accurate shooting has never not worked.

[@stansdad1]

He would have gotten shut down lol. He would have been beat up his whole career. It’s not about being miserable it’s the truth. One shimmy in bill lambiers face and he would have gotten knocked out cold

[@Vic-Vega]

What a truly idiotic analogy.

[@samueljenson8473]

Watch Colin tell everyone he possibly can over the next week how the NFL is “protective”. Another sound byte that Colin loves, will latch onto, and will spout off to everyone who will listen

[@tedmich]

Didn't Colin predict Urban was going to do fantastic in the NFL?

[@Austinwhite918]

Ryen's smirk. He gets it.

[@BT-yo3eq]

What’s made Steph so great is his self awareness. He understood that for as great as he is, KD was just a little bit better. He knew that before KD even got there. Most guys wouldn’t be willing to admit something like that.

[@TheCEOXPerience]

the 80s WERE great.

[@C-Note-to6vk]

Not really.

[@normdahdoul6363]

When it came to Urban Meyer, the second sunshine gave up on him his time was up in Jacksonville

[@osamamybestfriend911]

Russillo with Brian Griffin vibes

[@Stucknthe80z]

😂😂😂😂

[@robertpadillosandiego2821]

I can’t unhear it now!

[@QUguy]

Damn, that’s it.

[@TeamTaur]

Ryen Russillo: the only way u can get me to watch Colin for more than 5 minutes. We miss ur voice and takes Ryen. Thanks Colin for having him on!

[@ethanniedorowski116]

3 days q week he dose like hour plus long pods an kills it... so I mean I guess 🤷 but you could watch him

[@ishanray]

Colin is such an Urban apologist. He has yet to remotely lay into him. How does Urban need a right hand guy to tell him to take the plane with his team? Etc… my 5 year old daughter would know what not to do. These aren’t hard decisions.

[@vincentoravec261]

I like this crossover between The Ringer and The Volume.

[@Hockeyd14]

It’s almost like Urban was a huge problem and they ignored it in college cause he won. Once he didn’t have the golden aura around him the facade was exposed.

[@danielbeach5947]

I don't obsess over sport shows. I don't know everybody. But this guy Ryan was good with some good points and observation

[@primalrefleks]

I used to watch Ryan when he was on the ocho.

[@chrisbertram2686]

Love russilo but bittersweet realizing klatt interviews are over...one more for CFP!

[@willyboods5197]

Today was a good day

[@Michael-qu3dc]

Whenever Colin goes into one of his analogies about marriage/his childhood etc, Ryen gets a look of childlike glee on his face. Every time. And I Love it.

[@prateshramjohn]

It's a shame that Ryen doesn't have an nba vote. He's one of the better 'analysts'.

[@richpalmisano1740]

It's a Christmas Miracle!!! - all Jags Fans

[@frankmaitland1254]

Russillo did very well. He sold Mac without over selling him. It's the intangibles of the position that has so far set him apart.

[@michael99144]

This guys was right on the money

[@nickdags4646]

I thought SvP and Russillo was one of the greatest sports radio shows ever

[@clootscalhoun9481]

I’m glad to hear somebody else say something about records. I’m a huge Brady fan, and when he breaks reviews x y or x, I couldn’t care less. With how much these leagues have changed, breaking a record doesn’t mean as much anymore.

[@josephpotter7776]

Ryen Russilo the best CFB guy out there

[@C-Note-to6vk]

He is an NBA guy

[@lou93000]

That's exactly what I thought Russillo's kitchen would look like

[@anthonycapirichio3957]

Plain and white…lol

[@itsyaboipaulychips4498]

Is it his or did he wander into the wrong home again?

[@lou93000]

@@itsyaboipaulychips4498 i was making a light hearted joke. Relax hardo

[@itsyaboipaulychips4498]

@@lou93000 uh so was I pal

[@sirjer73]

@@itsyaboipaulychips4498 damn Bro you had 2 bring that up lol!!!

[@WillyPDX94]

It's not just about the difficulty for big-time college coaches transitioning to the pros. Calling your coordinators and position coaches losers. Not traveling with your team after a hard loss (and spending it drinking and flirting with waitresses on camera), and demeaning (and even kicking) your players. That has no place in college either. Urban is a horrible human being.

[@Vic-Vega]

Tough guy with a pfp of his dog, lol. She wasn't a "waitress," by the way.

[@SmashKing17]

Colin!! What's your take on Mac Mcclung. G league games

[@paulsingh1606]

Russillo is great.

[@nicholasperry6869]

I like Russilo and Canel!

[@johnnybaxter1953]

I love America ❤️

[@frankmaitland1254]

Kingsbury. Figured it out. Took Tebow to camp.

[@williamwatsoniii3895]

Damn he’s on here now they might as well rename FS1 FS1ESPN

[@cornhuskerfever]

Russilo resembles Steve Wallis

[@MrPhilaCuse]

He always brings up Saban not having a QB. How is that different than Tony Sporano or Rex Ryan or Doug Marrone or a billion other guys in that division.

[@swishdipper4362]

Doug Marrone didn't do anything. Also, Saban could've drafted Rodgers but passed to take a running back.

[@BrentonCarr]

Colin: Committed to be wrong about Mac Jones.

[@eeik5150]

Mobility in the pocket is how you have a long career. Mobility everywhere is how you wow for a couple years and then Kaepernick out.

[@julienforletta7896]

Well put

[@julienforletta7896]

Brady is the definition of this.

[@johnteill_]

It depends....if curry had to play with the rules of yesterday he'd still be a great shooter, but I doubt that his % and volume would take a dip....they can't touch in today's game

[@dominiquesides5273]

Dang, I miss Russillo

[@lou93000]

He's literally all over sports media these days...ever heard of podcasts??

[@cornhuskerfever]

SVP and Russilo was a great radio show. That was Ryan's best work

[@dominiquesides5273]

@@lou93000 Podcast? Is that like a TV Show??

[@dominiquesides5273]

@@cornhuskerfever yea him and SVP were GOATs

[@travforward]

@@lou93000 😎😎😎💪💪

[@Folds2008]

Joy not agreeing with anything in that last bit, not even a nod in agreement lol

[@justinsullivan5839]

“Ryen”? Lmao bet he has a kid named Ashleigh.

[@lancescallon7264]

yes ryen hurt colins urban love yesss

[@derrellwashington6658]

I don't think Step Curry could play in the 80's you have to realize you could hand check back then so it would be hard

[@ericw4377]

If your team is winning, various other stuff is glossed-over. But if you are 2-11, every goblin comes out of the woodwork.

[@thisguy8106]

No. Lol. Jimmy Johnson had MASSIVE problems when he first got to Dallas.. The difference is the fact that social media and ESPN's need for 24 Hour content wasn't around.

[@toddthomas4761]

Colin says: "I didn't grow up with a traditional childhood..." - I knew he could find a way to fit divorce in here somewhere...

[@LARRY113Z]

Are we really doing this thing where some guys can do analogies and because other guys can't we're posting on twitter about how mad you are they're successful and maybe you're not?

[@JoeRyMi]

I absolutely think Saben would have figured it out. Actually sucks he gave in so quickly.

[@MrZola1234]

Steph would have been a pro, but he would have had a harder time with the rule application that allowed more physical play would mean he would struggle to get as many clean shots. Also, he would have been even a bigger liability on defense. Not sure how much worse he would be, but his game would suffer some.

[@Lenrom12]

No he wouldn’t no one was checking up from 30 ft please stop

[@MrZola1234]

@@Lenrom12 yeah, because nobody shot from there, but if somebody did they would start covering him from farther out. They wouldn't have just let him shoot from 30ft. Fact he wouldn't have been as good with more physical game. Not sure how different, but he wouldn't have been as good. Also, he is a defense liability now, it would have been a lot more of an issue then.

[@stephenshortt427]

I can honestly say that Ryan was speaking above Colin bc Colin absolutely had no rebuttal points (almost like he nearly ALWAYS has when he has other supposed "analysts" on this show) to anything Ryan said.

[@michaelbanks3831]

Rusillo can’t be on the show enough

[@nicholasjheinz7461]

Collin has a tendency to make every talking point about him or his nephew Andre Luck...LMFAO!

[@subforcookie2783]

Literally 99% of you won't see this. But to whoever does, have a good day and stay safe ❤️

[@robw2379]

Thanks!

[@jimmorris4122]

Urben found out what the NFL is about. Not For Long !

[@kellengubbins8583]

It’s not about “could he have succeeded in the 80’s” … the game is just different. Rule changes. No more hand check. Technical fouls were issued differently. A different physicality to the game. He has had issues staying healthy in this era. I have a hard time imagining him staying healthy and have a free flowing nature to his game back them. He probably would still be successful, but just differently

[@austinbatalis4574]

Aren’t they better this year than last year? They beat the future AFC south champs a few weeks ago. The media caused this.

[@imply2662]

He didn’t get fired because they were losing, they fired him because he was a walking train wreck lol, nonstop drama with him and he’s a full blown narcissist. Jags fans should be happy he’s gone.

[@C-Note-to6vk]

They have not beat anyone in the AFC South. They are not as good as last year from a competitive standpoint.

[@frankmaitland1254]

Steph Curry is the best teamate is exactly right.

[@clconstruction3072]

I hear the word 'competent' being bandied around like it means something other than what it means. To whit: to be competent means you can handle all the duties you are being asked to perform. That's all...and that should be enough...because it is...because that is what the word 'competent' means.

[@BigfootJ13]

Mac Jones isn’t Tom Brady, he’s Eli Manning

[@tonysobon4669]

II like Curry I do but I see why or how he may not get the spot in top player of all time list as high as his are because there are people like me that think players like Reggie Miller could have been doing what Curry has been doing and there are plenty of others. The issue will always be unlike a player like LeBron who i dislike as a player , it's still clear he would be able to win a MVP in any era. Things are so different from 90's NBA to when Curry started that Curry could have been a 50% # ball shooter and he would have played a Steve Kerr type role at best for a team. Curry will be very hard to ever place on the all-time list.

[@jordanparker657]

So many words.....I wish I understood what you are saying.

[@lafan4801]

The real question is whether all this dysfunctional nonsense would be ignored if the jags were winning games.

[@LARRY113Z]

Are we really doing this thing?

[@drscott7359]

I think a lot of rooting against Meyer was more that it was him. Kliff K. Got the questions but nothing much. But why would the NFL have a ton of respect of college - it’s made up of the best players who moved “up” from college. And on Steph he would score less but be a good player for sure but he would get mobbed by teams like the knicks and you really have to make your own shot.

[@1914jblue]

So nothing is Urban’s fault. Must. Be. Nice.

[@trapiconti4001]

Slappy 🍀

[@jay_ay_why]

Wow, that's the bald guy with the nice kitchen.

[@ct-lg4gm]

Urban wouldn’t have listened to a right hand man. Maybe he had one.

[@coleeason6007]

It's urrbans fault period if it had worked he would have got all the credit

[@C-Note-to6vk]

Charlie Strong who is also a college guy.

[@yungtoolshed251]

When you lose and have controversies every 2 weeks, it’s no surprise that he got fired. College coaches aren’t bad it just the fact that the jags are the least inspiring team in the NFL

[@coleworld904]

That is on the coach to bring a new sense of energy and inspiration.

[@cutty-sark]

I think these guys never s say Dr J or watched Oscar Robinson. They played DEFENSE in the 80s. Not today. There’s a reason Jordan won Nothing in the 80s, first 5 years of his career, until those teams got old.

[@hainavidotcom]

Not true, it was because his team was undeveloped, they developed more so in 1991, then it was game over. Outside of Philly with Dr. J, Bird just had injuries, he wasn't old, neither were the Lakers or Pistons. The old whole old narrative is fake phony and false. Context overrules. I agree with the no defense today.

[@C-Note-to6vk]

The Lakers and Celtics were the teams of the 80s loaded with great players. He was not beating them.

[@C-Note-to6vk]

@@hainavidotcom until he got Pippen

[@hainavidotcom]

@@C-Note-to6vk what was Pippen's total PPG avg for his first 2 seasons vs MJ's? This debunks the 1-9. More hindsight for you. The fact that MJ only needed just 1 HOF to contribute to winning, not 2! ..ONE! for the majority of their tenure speaks volumes more than any other player in history. Mostly everyone was formulated through trades. Although Pippen was traded from the Sonics on draft day. They all became successful and that's the most important objective in life.

[@michaelhenry7638]

Colin why don't you go give urban a backup and shut up.

[@labronbryant8581]

But you could hand check back then people forget

[@timw8646]

steph would have struggle in any other era because he couldn't play defense AND defenders could handcheck him big time. he is great in one thing and that is shooting. everything else is pretty average.

[@C-Note-to6vk]

Not everyone in the NBA before now were great defenders

[@timw8646]

@@C-Note-to6vk but it is a lot easier to defend back then then now. steph would not be in the nba back then because he isn't tough enough to fend off those defenders who could stick to him like glue.

[@christophercringle896]

That was like listening to paint dry.

[@ComedyJakob]

You're missing the point of the Mac Jones - Tom Brady comp. It tells you more about Brady. The fact that this chubby Alabama kid is essentially exactly what Tom Brady was when he won 3 super bowls in New England should tell you that the dynasty had more to do with the greatest coach and staff of all time than it did to do with the moderately talented clutch QB.

[@seosamh_]

I love Bill but this is an awful take bud

[@ComedyJakob]

@@seosamh_ well it's one of the only two takes that you can have and both are totally hypothetical.

[@seosamh_]

@@ComedyJakob there's also a third, based on evidence. Tom is obviously the best to ever do it because he left and won a Superbowl in his first season. And Belichick has his team back on top of the AFC after rebuilding the roster in one off-season, which shows he's clearly the goat too. Both are as good as each other

[@squigglyline2813]

Who did he keep on the staff at Ohio State because he felt like he owed something to the family?

[@HyzersGR]

The WR coach who beat his wife and Urban new about it but didn’t fire him.

[@lafan4801]

The real question is whether all of this dysfunctional nonsense would have been ignored if meyer was winning all the games.

[@jgrigg404495]

That’s usually the way it goes.

[@GaryTurbo]

Tony Kahn needs to spend less time with AEW and more time with Jags

[@C-Note-to6vk]

He is not the owner. His Dad is.

[@francisdelacruz6439]

Steph would have a hard time because in the 80s defense as they could continuously foul and push you and it would be legal. If you go to the painted lane they could just grab you and push you to the floor hard. Worse Detroit used to try and take the ball while your falling to the ground to just elbow you on the ground. Rodman used to continuously elbow MJ after every shot almost. Laimbeer used to put is foot underneath the foot of Bird when he goes for the J aiming to injure him. As Shaq said if he played in the softer era of Shaq he would have to rough him up in the paint which would be sad as these results in injuries and shorter careers

[@mindyourbuisness8104]

Great players transcend eras but steph definitely would of struggled more than he does now but there are a ton of guys in the 80s that couldn't play today

[@chasingfelix3609]

Stop

[@benlewin3724]

You just contradicted yourself great players transcend eras shooting transcends time stop hating

[@pcontiman]

Don't get the QB right????!!!! You mean the best prospect since Luck, that's getting it wrong ? That's what's wrong with the Jaguars ? HAAAAA

[@C-Note-to6vk]

The kid is a rookie. The problem is that Urban does not know how to develop an NFL QB. He had this kid competing with Minshew in camp knowing they were going to trade Minshew. Then in the opener, he had TL throwing 50 times with a bad OL. Last week ge ran the best RB on the team 6 times. You must have balance with a rookie QB

[@eyeswideopen7431]

Pistol Pete..

[@zeeee985]

First

[@zeeee985]

Congratulations

[@zeeee985]

Thanks man

[@zeeee985]

You're very welcome buddy

[@cornhuskerfever]

No one cares

[@dbmae1532]

Reggie miller was Steph before steph i remember him as a kid lol go pacers 😂😭

[@C-Note-to6vk]

Did not have Steph's handles or range. But definitely has the release and knew how to use those picks.

[@superdopehiphop]

@@C-Note-to6vk handles agree but he absolutely had the range he just shot them way less

[@stephenhelmeci328]

Can someone make a cogent argument for Steph NOT being a top 5 player in league history? Won with KD, won and still wins without KD (and Klay), the best ever at the most integral skill in the sport, great ambassador for the game, and entirely changed the way it’s played. Is it crazy to have 1-2) MJ/Lebron, 3) Kareem, then Steph 4? Or Magic 4 Steph 5? I don’t think so, not at all. Makes sense to me actually.

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

He’s not a great two-way player. That’s why he’s not Top Five.

[@stephenhelmeci328]

@@johnbrowntheprophet that’s it? That’s all the reasoning needed? Let’s not pretend the undisputed top 3 got there on the strength of their defense 😂 they were all so dominant in one or two particular facets of the game on offense that they both changed and single handedly overcame professional gameplanning. Steph is right behind those 3/4 I mentioned in terms of scariest matchup in NBA history, and he’ll be scary for as long as he can stand and move his right arm. That’s more important to me than the two-way conversation.

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

@@stephenhelmeci328 - That’s *MY* reasoning, though I don’t expect it to be everyone else’s.

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

@@stephenhelmeci328 - Who are your “undisputed Top Three”? Jordan, LeBron, and Kareem? 🤔

[@havok6280]

@@stephenhelmeci328 "scariest match up" is completely subjective. But even if I accept that standard, you'd rather face prime Shaq than prime Steph? That's insane. It's silly to rank current players against all time greats. Their story is incomplete. That said, Magic and Bird literally saved the league. Magic has 5 rings to Steph's 3. 3 regular season MVPs to Steph's 2. 3 finals MVPs to Steph's 0. I can go on listing Magic's resume, but you get the point.

[@HeeyOk]

Come on, we all know you don’t watch NBA games 🤣. Your NBA takes suggestions that you just go by what’s popular during the moment 🤷🏾‍♂️. So big up to your researcher

[@timcastens1150]

Kinda sick watching all the pilling on this guy. Like j ville wasn't already a dumpster fire 🔥

[@C-Note-to6vk]

He was given total control. So he brought in players. It was not about them losing. It was all the other stuff. They man was lying about not knowing about James Robinson being benched when he was the one who benched him!

[@tecrayshawnjohnson7451]

Colin has become a liberal white elite. Anyways Let’s play a little game i call - will Joy Taylor dress like a pre-diabetic Red Light District attraction this morning?

[@Stucknthe80z]

Colin defending Urban liar is not a good look. Is he really doing this, yikes, makes you question Cowherd.

[@haroldfloyd5518]

Urban couldn’t win without constantly cheating. You can’t get away with that BS in the NFL like you can at OSU or Florida.

[@zeller3228]

hot take alert. and bowling green and utah?

[@C-Note-to6vk]

How did he cheat at UF and OSU?

[@antonioforlife]

Urban liar got exposed!

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

Ryen Russillo is so boring. I never finish watching anything he’s in.