Ryzen CPU with VEGA Graphics ONBOARD!

[@LinusTechTips]

One of the graphs (Cinebench) appears to be missing from the video. Here is the missing graph: i.imgur.com/UsTfFLB.png

[@SniderJ]

Linus Tech Tips How's the performance in adobe and final cut pro ?

[@kekkocheng]

Re-up while you can!

[@himanshumodak]

That awkward movement when you realize your discrete GPU is worse than integrated graphics of Ryzen APU. But Linus why you didn't try to crossfire those inbuilt graphics with amd budget cards?

Hi linus i think you have to re run your benchmarks, your values in game performance are waaaay of if you compare it with JayzTwoCents

[@xMrBabybelx]

I have a next project idea for you. You were talking about "People would give their left nut 12 years ago ..." What about doing a Ryzen 5 2400G build with games from 12 years ago and see how they would perform if AMD would have released those cpu's earlier with the knowledge of current state. May you already know how they would perform but I care about results. Anyway stay smooth as always.

[@LelouchLothric]

Nobody beats AMD in value

[@simfong999]

My mum beats me

[@lezauze2010]

LIDL does

[@AKK5I]

Azophin la catin OMEGALUL

[@Assadalrafidain88]

RAM will

[@lathrin]

yeah, im using a pc that cost me $700 and has a ryzen 5 2400g that i OC'd to 4.1 ghz and an overclocked rx 580 and ofc the other required parts like 8gb ram and an ssd+hdd and it runs gta 5 at 4k70fps and even crysis 3 at 4k 60fps

[@nasimaara9582]

720p high? Dude, I still play in 800x600 at low in 2018. *I'm a college student.

[@Old_Man_Jay]

I'm not quite sure you understand what a troll is. Especially when you consider that YOU were the one who seemed to be trolling the poor college kid. Unless, of course, you were actually talking about yourself?

[@elisedonaldson3893]

Do you not know how college works? Its not like hes going and paying for college up front with pocket change. Theyre probably going with the help of scholarships and student loans, and when thats the case, you cant go spending hundreds of dollars on a gaming pc when youre already on a tight budget and dont want to go into any more debt than you have/are.

[@elisedonaldson3893]

But an average 500 dollar notebook is an easy expense to make. You can take notes and work on things away from where you live. There arent a whole lot of college classes that would require you to need a gaming capable pc. Even by splitting the difference and buying a 200 dollar notebook and a 300 dollar desktop doesnt make a whole lot of sense. Having something that is reliable, has good battery life, and is functional for 200 dollars isnt really possible. The cheap windows notebooks may be good on battery, but the trackpad is usually terrible and can seriously chug when doing basic tasks, and the reliability is no match for something in a higher price bracket. It would be idiotic to buy a desktop but no laptop in college. Oh and having an average smartphone isnt saying much. Everyone has an average smartphone. You even have companies like Metro PCS literally giving out 150 dollar phones for free. Additionally, a majority of people pay off or lease their phones over the course of 12-24 months. 15-25 dollars a month is much easier to do than a 500 dollar purchase.

[@muhammadosama3358]

Cross X lol same

[@muhammadosama3358]

Philip old gen intel igpus are really really bad

[@Z3DT]

Holy shit, that 2400G is impressive as hell.

[@shawnderrickbarnes1147]

Z3DT the 2400g is almost equivalent to a 4790k. It’s scary lol

[@saturnus3555]

@@shawnderrickbarnes1147 should i buy the 2200 or 2400. Money isnt a issue. Ill be running a 1060ssc 6gb.

[@MrJ0mmy]

I built my pc for 691nzd ryzen 5 2400g 2x 8gb ram 250gb ssd 1tb hdd Asus gaming motherboard and I'm using a 1360x768 really nice 22inch tv and Vega 11 runs all the games I play perfect at 1360x768 high

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

@@saturnus3555 Buy the 2600X

[@ViperDivinity]

Man if you put a gpu, it even scarier. Man Ryzen is really great handling for us poor gamers.

[@ferni0]

AMD is killing in it in every way in the price to value ratio

[@androidtechgeek]

Bass Rukario Guerrero Intel CPU performance still better. AMD for peasants who too poor for better Intel APU.

[@ferni0]

Haloid Kusnetsov I have an Intel CPU. It that’s fake af

[@androidtechgeek]

Kouyioue Shut the fuck up AMD shill. Those statistics are fake news.

[@GnosticPhilosopher]

@AusDaes, Sketchy engineering samples>AMD+Intel

[@GnosticPhilosopher]

@Haloid Kusnetsov, Fuck off, Intel shill.

[@nikosmstr6988]

I think that is enough to RUSH B

[@ExZ1te]

Noki lol

[@MaDmanEXE]

...lyat

[@MrInsertfunnyname]

I like the way you think

[@Blank-np5kr]

It’s still not gonna help my team push to point :(

[@erun193]

Xdd

[@SnareGG]

"older generation ryzen chips" that feels like something i shouldn't be hearing already :/

[@skulltagfilms]

SnareGG that’s technology and it’s only progressing faster

[@fforfahim]

yep, still thinking of getting one in future :D ... still oldschool 3rd gen user here, but gaming is fine with rx480 on 2k screen

[@KingHalbatorix]

don't forget ryzen will be compatible with the AM4 socket until at least 2020, so "older generation" now no longer means 'buy a new motherboard' *-LOOKIN AT YOU INTEL-*

[@mrljgibson]

It isn't progressing faster, it's more that after keeping it's innovations back from users for nearly a decade, amd are forcing intels hand.

[@vincentlamb3436]

@@fforfahim Im not even using ryzen, ive got a Athlon 200 ge paired with a rx560 and im getting ultra to high graphics on most games. Been using AMD since 2003 they never cease to amaze me with their products. I use to be a technician at a school and would repair hundreds of dell laptops and desktops. whenever they would recycle them I would ask for the ones with AMD chips inside so I could repair them myself.

[@Minecraftminer3000]

You have to keep in consideration that you're getting a CPU *and* GPU for $99 or $169. You really won't find a faster dedicated CPU + dedicated GPU combo for the same price.

[@SyukriLajin]

xXx_420_360_HaX0rDaN0uSkoupah#sWaG#l3g1t_darud3w33dstorm_360_420_xXx you won't even get a proper dedicated gpu for that amount of money nowadays rofl.

[@haoyuxia7046]

Syukri Lajin gt 1030 is a great budget card

[@thebroeiegg7670]

Bass Rukario Guerrero no way third gen is going to feature an apu w the igpus performance being similar to a 1060

[@justinbuckley]

could get the 2200g and a used gtx 670 for around £136 which is cheaper than that cpu or anything existing + 1030 while performing a fuck load better

[@4m470]

TheBroeiegg They will probably have the tech available, but prices will be adjusted to reflect the performance.

[@WickedRibbon]

Man, the options for low-cost gaming on PC is insane these days. Grab one of these bad boys and you're good for most Esports titles, many indie games and pretty much any emulator you could think of. The only caveats of course, are RAM and GPU prices. Hopefully they'll stabilise over the coming year to make things even more affordable.

[@handle_m1]

Don't need RAM, I'll do it myself.

[@misterfiretango754]

also, it probably runs doom 2016 fine on low settings, because the A10s could run doom doom 2016 at 40 fps 720p low settings

[@ionstorm66]

These will make great sub $500 OEM machines. OEMs hate dGPUs, more parts is bad, so an APU is super appealing. Sadly they will choke them with the slowest/cheapest memory out there.

[@buenaventuralosgrandes9266]

i guarantee you it will not, it will going to get worse. just buy 4 gb dual channel is fine. upgrade to 8 or even 16 bitcoin and all virtual money value being drop bleeding low

[@oftentigre]

PS3 emulator?

[@takumifujiwara300]

Hi im from 2019 and AMD is still dumsptering Intel.

[@goldwagger]

Takumi?

[@ra9im308]

So why this 2200g is late behind in speed benchmark!?

[@goldwagger]

Ra9im & رقيم ?

[@diegouy8277]

You know that AMD was created by Intel? I feel like they each cater to different demographics.

[@adalmarraffascha5a-bilingu557]

@@diegouy8277 hahaha that's simply not true.

[@CKTDanny]

I can actually see some practical applications for these APU's. For instance, internet cafes are going to love these.

[@vnyggi621]

SDG Danny and probably every non gamer who doesnt need a discrete gpu

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Me too...It means we will get even better stuff from Intel.

[@adityasixviandyj7334]

not only internet cafes, I think it will great for offices as well. lower TDP (mean less heat), Long support AM4 (easy for IT Support for upgrading system), quite high performance ryzen cores (capable for process light to medium video editing/designing), and quite capable IGP (no need buy VGA card) makes quite compelling for IT support to buy/upgrade their offices pc with this APU, and yet able satisfy the user need for able play games when break or process some excel/words while watching youtube.

[@leonro]

Buff Barnaby Not really, as AMD has been doing APUs for a while and Intel CPUs still sell really well. They did the Vega graphics thing for ultrabooks just so that AMD wouldn't take their share of people who want thin and light laptops for games, as demand for those is much greater than for good desktop iGPUs.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Yes really...Vega was a bust and NVIDIA has Ampere coming out in April.

[@boomwithpeter623]

WE NEED AN UPDATED VIDEO ON R3 3200G AND R5 3400G !!!

[@MediocreTCG]

Yup

[@minemaster8746]

Yeah

[@gibreel]

@GREEN KING Same.

[@wb3123]

This is meant for 720p low settings to get playable fps in modern AAA games which I am totally cool with. Very cool product from AMD and price is just fantastic.

[@99catsin6bags]

1080p low with 60fps if you get 3000mhz ram...

[@cunnyman]

yohanan harvey Lmao no. If you mean esport titles, sure.

[@Drprathamchess]

A laptop with r5 2500u and Vega 8 rise of tomb raider at 1600 *900 at high setting smoothly. I don't count fps but its buttery smooth

[@bass-dc9175]

Doom low preset 1080p 57 fps. Gta5 low preset 1080p 67fps. Depending on the game you can get away with 1080p on Vega Integrated graphics.

[@yogeshbarskar6775]

@@Drprathamchess bro ram kitni use kar rhe ho .

[@MrBloodypassion]

When they said some canadian accidentally leaked the benchmark of these apu was that you linus?

[@kenny-zc9ti]

Mhel Mabayo some guy ordered ahead the r5 2400g. And instead of waiting for the official release, it got sent to him. So he tested that cou

[@MrBloodypassion]

kenny ricardo i heard he forgot to unplugged the test unit after doing benchmark lmao

[@alvinhasal2391]

There was a benchmark here on youtube from SonofATech, he brought the apu on amazon but the retailer dispatched it instead of being a preorder. He even livestreamed it for 10 hours with some programs and games. He even had a forbes article written for him by a forbes contributor. The reviewers had the unboxing, but they were on an agreement with AMD to release the benchmarks by next week. I've read somewhere that the agreement/embargo was lifted, so these reviewers are already flooding with reviews and benchmarks.

[@MrBloodypassion]

Alvin Hasal woah definitely didn’t know that, thanks for the heads up dude.

[@abilizard]

pretty sure caden guy is different from sonofatech, canada guy might be linus

[@ferni0]

I think it’s more of a competence to a GT 1030 than a GTX 1050 TI

[@GlaciaDay]

grg but a direct comparison with Ryzen 1400+ GT 1030 would be way better imo.

[@willreaver2295]

Other tech sites ran benchmarks a little while ago, the APU beats the 1030 easily but falls short of the 1050, it floats around the middle, I think that’s why Linus emphasized the 1050 because it surpassed everything up to it.

[@TheTomtah]

No the APU gets absolutely rekt by the 1030 in gaming. Come on bruh. Do some research

[@abousono1]

TheTomtah, that's just not true, I've been watching these videos all morning, and that's not what I've seen.

[@JohnDuthie]

Yeah since a single 1050ti costs more than a 2400G. Linus is comparing apples and oranges again.

[@cocoverde]

These results are pretty sweet for the price! For those who can't afford a graphic card right now is a nice solution.

[@Aaron027]

Bruno Marques absolute nerd

[@lifeisbeautiful7361]

@@Aaron027 go bounce on your daddy's knee bitch

[@al3xt6m60]

@@Aaron027 stfu

[@stingraykai4007]

yh but how do i connect to a monitor

[@charleslanceb.delarosa2255]

@@stingraykai4007 on your motherboard+

[@fellnet]

That AMD comeback tho. Some Intel shill I still have as friends are really salty about it.

[@atomm4675]

[file not found] meh, i need more swings from AMD.

[@mobius6337]

[file not found] I got a 7600k for 120 bucks so I really don't care lol.

[@elcajondavid1]

[file not found] Why? Competition = consumers winning.

[@Khloya69]

[file not found] no1 games on an IGPU anyway dumbass

[@MTNDEWGANG]

[file not found] i have an intel chip, but im really happy about amd pushing more cores, better performance to the mainstream platforms.

[@vinnypiazza4851]

Wait, why is everyone comparing it to a 1050ti? Wouldn't it make more sense to compare it to a build with a normal Ryzen CPU with a GPU bought with the difference in money? Or at least something lower than the 1050 (GT 1030 or going back a generation or two the 750ti)

[@tfvb7209]

exactly, I also dont know why there are people throwing a 1080 with the 2400G and comparing it to a 1600 with a 180. The sole purpose of the 2400G is to provide a gaming experience without a graphics card.

[@Jmcgee1125]

The 1050 Ti is considered to be the enty-level gaming PC card. Plain 1050's and even a 1030 are widely considered obsolete by gaming enthusiasts. At any rate, all the prices are skewed now, so these chips are a godsend.

[@jameshoey4350]

Because the 1050TI is a like an average graphics which is good to compare to

[@bluerune7305]

because the 1050ti is this generations budget/entry lvl gaming gpu but because of the prices right now its all fked up and even the budget guys cant afford it so they compared this to that so the budget/entry guys would have a decent alternative and because its a pretty good ryzen cpu as well they will alos be able to upgrade it down the road with a gpu so its a great stepping stone/building block for us budget guys...really wish i had seen this a month ago before i bought my 1600 and 1050ti buit o well im loving my pc but def would of been a viable option here

[@KristoKorps]

Because you can actually buy a 1050 ti within some sense of reason.

[@urdaddywingnut7820]

Linus-- Why is it EVERY other reviewer is comparing this to the 1030, which it seems to be about on par with, while you're comparing it to a FRIGGIN 1050Ti??!? That doesn't at all seem like a fair fight on any level. Why not just test it against a 1060? Better yet, how bout go for the gusto & just slap it around with a 1080Ti?

[@bingokemski4473]

UrDaddy WingNut why not a P5000 / Vega Frontier Edition?!

[@astronemir]

You should never buy a 1030 that's why.

[@urdaddywingnut7820]

On that very note- the same people who should never buy a 1030 are the EXACT same people that wouldn't buy an APU either. I'm not at all saying I'd buy a 1030, OR these APU's. Personally, I'd stick with a tablet before all that. But that's beside the point. This video was supposed to be a matching comparison- which it wasn't.

[@Ranzord95]

ek2660 that's just more reasons to compare, the people aiming for the power and price of a 1030 are the ones that should totally consider these APUs

[@zephyr2130]

Personally I would have preferred that. If people are are buying APUs to hold them over until they can afford a DGPU, time is going to pass, and HOPEFULLY, GPU prices come down to MSRP, and maybe we even start seeing some deals on them. I could see someone buying this APU and waiting and saving their money to buy a 1070, or a 1080.

[@NujuBIONICLE]

From 0:09 to 0:16 I was hoping for Linus to drop the box but he disappointed me

[@royallager1851]

NujuBIONICLE Linus(with milions subscrabers) disappointed or you disappointed?

[@itsneight1260]

Bryan @TechYesCity took care of it for him ;)

[@StaelTek]

the meme is older than a 2500K at this point

[@kalebbruwer]

0:14 I was dissapointed to see that the box is actually empty.

[@rehmanarshad1848]

NujuBIONICLE 😂😂😂😂😂

[@marthulu6220]

But did you give it more vram?

[@The404Studios]

Tunnel bear Tunnel Bear Tunnel Bear making the internet better!

[@Gamen4Bros]

The404Studios i HATE tunnelbear... Ugh

[@ganjariver2683]

What's Tunnel Bear?

[@semperpie]

Ganja River A VPN thing.

[@ganjariver2683]

You may or may not have missed the heavy sarcasm in my comment? ;)

[@DeadPixel7]

Ganja River You may or may not have misused the question mark in Your sentence. :P

[@Progster0192]

0:10 Will he drop it. Or will he not. The crowd is going wild in anticipation!!

[@CKTDanny]

Ay, these would be nice for budget LAN party machines. _I wonder how many Crysis barrels they can handle_ :)

[@youaturd4124]

Awww.... Here we go again! *Useless comment* And uses like bots 😎

[@youaturd4124]

*Fck off*

[@youaturd4124]

*BICH*

[@youaturd4124]

*BICHY BICH*

[@youaturd4124]

*Ohhh... *Crisis* comment... So original...

[@SuperFredAZ]

The other very useful feature with on-board graphics: if you are not getting anything on your screen, you can simply pull your graphics card and try on-board graphics. It helps with the diagnostics.

[@Username-jv4fl]

Is it against LTT terms and conditions to benchmark anything at 720p?

[@lucafraga95]

Im Back nope, next time they'll add 1280x1024 to the mix for good measure too. And a bit of 800x600 for the lols

[@daniellee6912]

it's fucking stupid to run games at 1080p with integrated graphics, I would rather have lower resolution and more frames any time

[@sovietmudkip1]

Luca Corigliano the point of asking for 720p is that the APU is better at 720 gaming and Linus specifically mentioned that in the video, but didn't show any numbers for it

[@MJ-uk6lu]

um hello to 2018, 1080p is on the low end

[@fu4ien]

There are better tech channels: Hardware unboxed, Gamers nexus. If you want a decent benchmarks and analysis.

[@crusadehs4248]

2400G is crazy value. Basically the same as putting together a Ryzen 5 1500x and a RX 550 together..

[@meister550]

Just don't forget to buy a fast memory and even overclock it a bit for a good bandwidth

[@InfiltrateIndustries]

No.. The market for this is ... vague. Nobody really wants this expect in aios

[@irhandlehandle]

InfiltrateIndustries, I guess you forgot that there are people willing to play 1080p60low as long as their Mini-ITX build is the size of a football... I want it myself because I don't have much money, and the free gpu is better value than the 1200, even with a discrete one. You sound like that bogus review that digitaltrends released. www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-ryzen-apus-problems/

[@irhandlehandle]

It just depends on what you consider competent :). I've seen people chop up laptops, and that VegaM/KabyG NUC has a good gpu in it.

[@LieutenantButtonMasher]

CrusadeHS The R3 2200G is better value to be honest.

[@kasid.47]

These integrated GPUs would be better compared to a discrete 1030 rather than a 1050ti.

[@spiffo5349]

I think the 1050ti is fair for comparison. The goal was to show that yes, if you are a gamer on a tight budget, these processors are an incredible value. But don't expect them to compete with even mid tier gaming solutions until you save up for a real graphics card.

[@sgcs]

@@spiffo5349 they should have compared it to a 1050 (non ti) also hi from 2020

[@andreiarg]

@@sgcs the 1050 is considered obsolete by modern standards and isn't a suitable entry level gpu anymore.

[@sgcs]

@@andreiarg nah

[@diego7399]

Aaand my subbox is full with AMD

[@tomaskusnir2374]

is that a bad thing though ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@CKTDanny]

Same. It's probably a good thing, though :)

[@Redicat]

Not to mention none of them calculating the performance per dollar but Hardware Unboxed

[@imadecoy.]

You have to admit, TechYesCity is the dumbest channel name ever conceived.

[@M4TTYN]

yup like wtf lol

[@Akash77133]

I think ryzen 3 2200g is more interesting than the 2400g.cause its giving almost similar performance of gt 1030(slightly slower) but an very interesting price point of 99$. A similar cpu+gpu config G4560+ gt 1030 = 160$ Ryzen 3 2200g = 99$ Yes its a bit slower than the gt 1030 but I'm saving 60$ here With 60$ i can also go for a budget b350 mobo like asrock b350m or gigabyte one's which is also oc capable.

[@Ravenousjoe]

Akash7713 not to mention you actually have 4 cores VS 2c/4t which in some games won't even start up.

[@Akash77133]

alcowherd7 yes. Games are utilizing 4cores nowadays

[@bakadeshi_aunstudios]

actually the 2200G is just as fast as the 1030 in alot of tests if you OC the GPU. even beats it in some at 720p.

[@funnyman2199]

The 2200g's vega graphics are equal to a GTX 650 (worse than gt 1030)

[@rolfv.s.2870]

Akash7713 exactly my idea

[@abyssabyssabyss]

“Today’s video was brought-“ *double taps anxiously*

[@RaaynML]

Typo in the description: "Ryzen 3 2400G", should be Ryzen 5

[@originalkhawk]

finally something from team red that gets me exited again, i have been running intel cpu's for years due to the fact that in gaming they are a winner across the board, when ryzen launched i could not get to exited about it because even with their lower entry cost as some one who likes to upgrade their pc over time i could not get exited for it because at the top of the line following the upgrade path you would not be near close enough to intel for me to justify the lower entry price ( i fully understand that diffrent people have diffrent needs from a pc and that people did / do get exited for ryzen, it is just not for me ) but with decent intergrated graphics that allows you to do more than just hook up a monitor for basic web browsing / word proccesing like with the intel intergrated graphics amd lowered the cost of a gaming pc that is able to run most games on decent settings / framerate by a lot as long as GPU prices are inflated, it is a real solution for people that want to dip their toes in to pc gaming without breaking the bank, saving a lot on needing to invest in a gpu when building the pc is a great thing and i hope this allows more people to expiriance the wonder that is the "pc master race", while i probably wont make a switch to team red anytime soon due to the fact that i have 0 need for intergrated graphics as long as they wont out preform my gtx 1080 or 970 i am happy to stay on team blue for the extra preformance in games that they offer on the highest end of the upgrade path, i am realy happy that amd finally in my mind has a purpose and i can actually recomend amd cpus again to people on a budget that are looking in to buying a new gaming pc. also quick side note to linus 5:45 intel does not hold the crown in cpu only tasks, ryzen actually out preforms intel in a lot of cpu only tasks, intel only wins in the single core tasks, as soon as things start to scale over multiple cores amd takes a huge leap forward

[@lewis6590]

originalkhawk for the love of god please use a period every now and then.

[@RahulJha-mc6nz]

@@lewis6590 hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhahhaahhahah

[@BlankIdea02]

Did you increase the VRAM to 2GB or did you leave it at 512MB

[@davidkaus7650]

2gb

[@dolebiscuit]

I need to know

[@Dazzxp]

Default is 1GB, can increase to 2GB and further down the line a BIOS will allow upto 8GB.

[@jimmyjango5213]

An FYI, setting it to 2GB or 512GB won't matter, as when the 'dedicated' portion of RAM is used up it uses the system RAM - which is the exact same thing. There is a really good techspot that demonstrates this with no performance difference (in some cases performance went up a few percent with a smaller dedicated VRAM portion) worth the read.

[@gibbyace5077]

Whats up with the strange music?

[@yortfan7697]

Gibbyace Yeah

[@hysazemusic]

For someone who was very tight on budget, I don't regret buying 2400G 3 years ago even a little bit. Using it smoothly till date.

[@misterstacy]

Good thing it's still a bit early where I'm from 😂

[@calebgrefe8922]

How is there no gt 1030 in the comparison? It's about the only reasonably performing gpu you can buy for under 200 USD.

[@calebgrefe8922]

Also, a g4560 paired with a great 1030 is a very similar price point to the 2400g. I'd love to see that comparison.

[@vegajf51]

Exactly, terrible review, you can also overclock the GPU on these APU's and they didn't even attempt it.

[@bman001001]

... wehat do you call when linus said the max they could get was 3.8

[@vegajf51]

Thats a cpu overclock, the built in vega GPU can be overclocked also

[@nikoladoes3d]

caleb grefe Watch Hardware Unboxed video on r3 2200g and r5 2400g . They did a much better job on presenting Apus than Linus.

[@claver5165]

As a budget gamer my self that is very good even excellent

[@yasith2426]

HOLY BALLS I'd better sell my old FX PC now, of to eBay I go....

[@FromNoobToPro]

0:20 why they look toasted?

[@anthos1048]

From Noob To Pro probably because they need thermal compound to keep cool when they are tested ????

[@mokendkomer]

When thermal compound is applied and cleaned off many times it leaves the integrated hear spreader looking like that.

[@TheGhjgjgjgjgjg]

It's basically intergrated thermal compound lol

[@danielfatfingahs5649]

From Noob To Pro you know who's paying the bills over there.

[@Zman2024]

Cos he rushed B

[@josemendezfr]

Still gonna buy a 1600. Is only 189.99 for 6 cores, 12 threads. This is what intel should be doing instead of accidentally killing their CPU's i mean, look at the value for money of the Pentium lineup and the 8400, those chips killed the i3 and i5 lineup in terms of price performance. Now the i3's have 4 cores, becuase if not what was the value of buying an i3 instead of a Pentium.

[@sagargondhali5629]

It is meant for someone who is not going to buy discrete Graphic card . If you are getting a graphic card then 1600 is definitely a better deal . BUT BUT BUT I think you should wait for the New Ryzen 7 to come . It could be a deal breaker .

[@quentor424]

Hey guys, so i wanted to build a R5 1600+GTX 1060 pc but i dont have the money...Would it be wise if i bought a 2400g *without* or even with a graphics card (gtx 1050 or sth) and wait to upgrade to like a ryzen 7 or sth much better with like a gtx 1060-70 in the future?

[@sagargondhali5629]

Hermes D Just wait for a month or two . New Ryzen processors and Nvidia cards are going to launch . They will launch in March and will be available in April . You will come to know which is a better deal .

[@Swanicorn]

sagar gondhali I am not a huge PC techie so not updated with latest info. Have those new things launched yet? It's been 4 months since your comment so it might have. In that case, can you tell me what are the new things so that I will look into them.

[@JustACowSP]

So... Why compare against a 1050 ti?

[@KoryLunaa]

Because its one of the entry level GPUs that aren't a steaming pile of excess, the other being an RX 570

[@IndoLiberation]

1080p 30-50fps medium setting on battlefield 1 , with a freakin IGP

[@analkarldervierte1759]

1:38 R.I.P. editor.

[@nicholashoi3155]

Try letting Dennis make a video one day

[@NathanielKempson]

Dennis is an editor, he literally DOES makes them.

[@nicholashoi3155]

NKProductions2014 Salut Dennis cuz I have a hard time editing my videos

[@KarrasBastomi]

Dennis is only handle Tech Quickie videos..... LTT videos is handled by Alex and Taran

[@LiaoDrew]

in 中文

[@isaywrds]

*But can it run minesweeper*

[@osutx427]

MrBloggy at 720p :)

[@damndann]

Nah, probably 144p 5fps, but that's all you need.

[@magnomliman8114]

omg its 2018 kill me.

[@koba8559]

*YES*

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

On AIO liquid cooling, possibly.

[@SamCrut]

The way the charts flip so fast between longer-better and shorter-better as they 're all flying past on these videos, you should add some sort of background with a giant arrow in the backdrop pointing right for "Longer is better" and pointing left for "Shorter is better," so we can more easily know what we're looking at at a glance.

[@MrBloodypassion]

I thought the benchmark embargo is still up till next week? Bitwit said that btw.

[@Its_A_Meag]

Mhel Mabayo the embargo was lifted today. Keep in mind that Kyle probably recorded the video a few days before hand so his time may be off for us.

[@GreatMasterGaming]

Embargo is today, he prerecord videos

[@calebhortman1971]

Mhel Mabayo bitwits videos are on floatplane a week early

[@Soulrak87]

Mhel Mabayo he said that last week lol

[@PinkBunnyCorporation]

these APUs are actively being sold right now, dufuq why would there be an embargo?

[@heyitsmejm4792]

LMAO Intel doesn't want to give free sample product to compare.. response of shame...

[@tennek127]

2020 gamer here, I use a Ryzen 3 with a GTX 1660 TI OC, and there’s a lot of games I can run on 1080p high and ultra settings (current gen games of course) so take my word for it he’s speaking facts in this video! #PraiseLinus

[@summushieremiasclarkson4700]

Ah the devil that is Ram pricing.

[@bingokemski4473]

UltimateXtreme maybe they can add RAM to the cpu next time? XD

[@liam159357]

Wenger out!

[@PcCentric]

lol

[@kothar6159]

lol

[@NooaJaarsma]

liam159357 lol

[@WJ69420]

Agreed

[@Sixxpounder92]

WENGER OUUUUUUUUUUT

[@memelord5821]

1:37 I would have never guessed that Linus would actually said that

[@khalidhebshi5318]

At 3:26 why does the left CPU look quite cooked

[@AntonioDal.]

While GPU prices are very high this move of AMD to release Ryzen is perfect. Not only did AMD make a big profit of the cryptocurrency miners who brought tons of AMD GPU's they also dominating the low-medium budget market now. Many pre built pc we will see in shops will have Ryzen.

[@sickbailey21]

Wait.... What?! Did I just see a video where linus actually roasted intel? Man its so good to see healthy competition in the CPU space. Good work guys

[@KodieCollingsGaming]

What CPU should I get? • AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz [3.6GHz Turbo] Six-Core • AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz [3.9GHz Turbo] Quad-Core with Radeon Vega 11 Graphics Processor And what graphics card would you recommend with each for best bang for buck value?

[@Charsept]

KCG - Kodie Collings Gaming R5 1600 is probably better. Should be paired with a GTX 1060 or RX 580. A 1070 would be fine too. The 2400g from a pure value perspective is best without any graphics card at all but while it is the best value, it can't play everything. A 1050ti, 570, 1060, or 580 would pair well with it. Good luck finding any of these cards at good prices btw. Or finding them at all.

[@KodieCollingsGaming]

Thanks Charsept

[@kingkong4934]

Charsept hello do you know if i can use a 1070 ti with the vega graphics it already has? Or is that stupid? I figure two gpus is better than one

[@lezhaosicne6387]

@@kingkong4934 no

[@KaveManZA]

Decade ago got a intel tattoo around my anus, everytime I took a crap. It clearly indicated what I thought about Intel. AMD is the way to go and the innovators of technology.

[@fatmangeorge6759]

i just got an ad with Linus in it, while trying to watch a Linus Tech Tips video. Coincidence? I think not. Linus is taking over

[@antonnrequerme6256]

Yeah same i was utterly confused

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

You did, I just ordered myself a 2200g.

[@gnightrow4020]

can you run crossfire with the *Onboard and the dedicated graphics ???*

[@MaximNightFury]

gNightrow Crossfire Vega

[@shamsunnahar1844]

Same question...bt with rx 570/580/560

[@scottdpugnificent]

These look like a great option for a back up/ alternate purpose pc. For the price it beats used intel and nvidia.

[@MyNegativeCreep]

*Is* *the* *graphics* *chip* *better* *than* *intel* *4600?*

[@MyNegativeCreep]

Okk thank you!

[@paulmuresan8889]

Every APU from AMD is far better in graphics than any iGPU from Intel. Especially the 2200G and 2400G.

[@Dazzxp]

Yeah it smokes the Iris graphics.

[@irhandlehandle]

Even the 2 super old APUs that came out many years ago that get crushed by the HD630 are better because you can use them in compute.

[@tylerweigand8875]

I wouldn't say smokes, especially if you look at the Iris Pro with eDRAM, but it's definitely a fair bit ahead of even Intel's best.

[@TednTin]

my desktop has a A10 5800K, i think i can finally get this APU but i would have loved to see how these fare when paired with discrete GPU compared to intel edit: i should watch the whole video before commenting, lesson learned

[@Nanorisk]

TednTin Apparently they tested it with a 1050Ti, did you missed that part?

[@TednTin]

ya, i commented after the initial benchmarks thinking they are finished

[@adityasixviandyj7334]

wow, hellooo!!! I thought only me still using A10-5800K. High Five bro from Indonesia!!! and yeah, I also compelling to upgrade to Ryzen 5 2400G. But, based what I do and need (I'm graphic designer, which often do video editing and heavy graphic design), I might be better upgrade to Ryzen 5 1600 or Ryzen+/Ryzen 2 version of it (maybe named Ryzen 5 1650 for Ryzen+ and Ryzen 5 2600 for Ryzen 2).

[@dxalradoftwgameplay3629]

Aditya Sixviandy J If you're going to go for graphics designing, just go for this and an AMD card and use AMD dual GPU to allow the apu and GPU to work as one like crossfire.

[@adityasixviandyj7334]

DxalradoFTW Gameplay I also think going build like that, as my A10-5800K is currently using AMD GPU as well, but due incompatibility with the version (i use R7 250X), I disable the IGP. fro AMD Dual Graphic with my APU, the pairing is to HD6700 or HD7500, as I remember, is old too and not giving so much boost. that's why i use R7 250X as my GPU and turn off the IGP. those configuration able give me more performance that activating AMD Dual Graphic alone.. also another reason why I not use AMD Dual graphic with R7 250x... well actually CAN'T use AMD dual Graphic, is due architecture differences. A10-5800K IGP is still using TeraScale 3 (VLIW4) architecture, while R7 250X is using GCN architecture. basically, AMD Dual Graphic works if the APU and discrete GPU use same architecture... and I guess it will be same for Ryzen with Vega Graphic APU, which is maybe another reason why they not promote AMD dual graphic this time, as there is no Vega Graphic for lower priced level. but another thing i notice is my CPU less throlling and less having "not responding" issues which maybe due 100W TDP that our cpu had is not shared with IGP again, which give better performance at the end. Also AMD not announced what dual graphic GPU configuration that help this Ryzen APU, but as I think, maybe only Vega based GPU that supported, which in this time is impossible to get ones due crypto-craze (Indonesia get the effect too unfortunately), and VEGA is not available at lower prices spectrum.

[@chadgames3518]

I got a Ryzen 3200G for Christmas this year and I can't wait to use it!

[@aarupoudyal1378]

is it good? or should I spend another 50 on rysen 5 3400g

[@youbhoy5195]

@@aarupoudyal1378 sped more on the 3400g if you have the budget and you're planning on adding a gpu in the future but if you're only sticking with the integrated then just go for the 3200g

[@aarupoudyal1378]

@@youbhoy5195 Ok thanks, the 3200g is 80 and 3400g is 120 and I think if I just spend 50 more for future proofing and better graphics.

[@Eggerz]

Nobody is going to talk about the power rangers jacket

[@TheTwohourshower]

Gregory Medina I was hoping for some more info on it too. I was more excited about that than the apu's

[@TheTwohourshower]

Google power rangers hoodie, they are about $20 on filmjacket.

[@modworld9940]

you tested Ryzen 2400g with 1050Ti a year Ago and i am Buying it Today 😂

[@rump360]

bruh you gonna bottleneck the gpu so hard.

[@rommelwhiting6127]

Avik I don’t think he will, there aren’t any bottlenecking going on with the 1060 so it wouldn’t really be much difference if he uses 1050ti

[@aliheikal2805]

@@rump360 nah my friend had 2400g cause he was broke then Now he has a 2060 with it and no bootleneck

[@OAcessoPublico]

I am buying the 3400g a year later lol

[@austinhutton438]

Wtf? At 1:46 KZbin's auto closed captioning put pen pineapple apple pen because of the way he moved his hands haha 🤣

[@EastSideGameGuy]

It's good to see AMD back in the game.. *looks at my R3 1200* "I am proud of you"

[@EastSideGameGuy]

Magnus Rasmussen already did that :D

[@EastSideGameGuy]

Magnus Rasmussen I am infact running it with a GTX 1060 6G

[@EastSideGameGuy]

Magnus Rasmussen Assassin's creed syndicate and RE7 were the only games where the performance was sluggish (didn't play origins yet) other than that it's been giving me stable performance on 1080p ultra (in most games)

[@EastSideGameGuy]

Magnus Rasmussen Ubisoft needs to learn something from Rockstar GTA 5 was giving me a playable 27-35fps on an i7 4200u with on board Radeon HD 8670m

[@VINNUSAURUS]

Yeston and inno3D GPU review plz..

[@tiborklein5349]

They're fine if you can get them cheaper than the well known brands.

[@mariuszanfir2298]

Inno3D? Wasn't it like a top GPU maker 15-20 years ago?

[@tiborklein5349]

I think you're confusing it with 3Dfx.

[@4450krank]

I have an inno3D 1060 6gb its works very well. i would really use that if you want to make a small build as it is not very big at all^^

[@mariuszanfir2298]

Tibor Klein No, I'm not - google says it was founded in 1998. Probably not the same company, they just kept the name or something like that, similar to current Polaroid company.

[@toni.rovinj]

ryzen 5 2400g 16gb ddr4 3000mhz and gtx1050ti is my budget build for 200$ and i can say this piece of a cpu really gets gaming done for good

[@kanuckistanprepper5321]

So instead of showing it vs the GT 1030 and RX 550 which is what should have been done they put it against a 1050ti? WTF dude lol. This is why people call you a shill...

[@majesticgoatgaming5608]

The GTX 1050ti alone is the price of the Ryzen 5 2400g

[@bingokemski4473]

I think he didnt do it because of the low end video cards rant he made. And respectively compared it with a gamers upgrade path GTX 1050Ti. There should of been more GPUs to boot though. My question is why he didn't put in the GTX 1050 or RX 550/560 in there since it would of worked great comparatively since they have the same VRAM as the CPU can take to compare it with. He didn't even discuss the system specs he went with when testing...... sort of slacking tbh in comparison to past reviews

[@bingokemski4473]

Also notice despite him slacking his like to dislike ratio didn't take a hit... which proves he can get away with this

[@mhudds2826]

thing is not many people have the gt 1030 so what use would it be, more people have a gtx 1050 or a 1050ti. If barley anyone uses it why make benchmarks that don't have a good point of reference, more people know how a 1050ti will preform, but not a lot of people know the preference.

[@wb3123]

He is a moron. He gets views from literally dropping shit and making memes from it.

[@dustys5512]

Left nut. That was unexpected. I haven't laughed in a long time. I needed that. :-)

[@Slavolko]

I wonder if the less than 1300x performance is due to the L3 cache being halved. I think that's the one thing preventing these APUs from truly replacing the last-gen quad cores. The performance isn't bad otherwise, it's great to see how far we've come in terms of APUs.

[@Joe_Rebel]

Guys tbh can we all just forget about brand loyalty? If you consider that getting away with less money spent for amount of performance is a great thing (especially in this capitalist dystopian world we live in), then we should appreciate the products (not brands) that do well by value. I know a lot of you have Intel and you naturally want to gravitate towards your brand but, if your brand isn't doing the best it can for what you need. It's time to re consider what you're doing. If you all pick and choose favorites, you're gonna be missing out on a lot. Instead go with what makes sense to you personally brand aside.

[@bingokemski4473]

Fudge You Right, brands shouldn't own our opinions. We should instead have independent voices on what we think of the product.

[@Joe_Rebel]

Exactly.

[@mhudds2826]

I'v been scrolling through the comments and i'v seen 3 people go on about what brand is better, do you post this on every bench mark video?

[@Joe_Rebel]

Not sure what you're going on about there, I've only posted this comment here. Brands should not matter, after all we're buying the product, not the brand.

[@tiborklein5349]

*F*ck Tunnelbear*

[@KaziCare]

Tibor Klein why

[@tiborklein5349]

Because it's in every fuckin' video. It gets a bit annoying after a year or so...

[@megda2048]

They are sponsored, it is required to put it in the video to make the viewers see it if sponsored, if they don't something bad could happen

[@lukem9962]

Based in Canada so no use as a vpn

[@zosxavius]

Uh Linus is based in canada too. Coincidence?

[@Akirsop]

I build small office computers focused on budget and task specific parts. I'm super excited for this CPU series.

[@shirobuta_]

Poor choice in background music.

[@enriqsbuzz7405]

Hy im from the year 3010 Amd is still beating intels ass

[@eLJaybud]

Wish there were cheap mitx boards so I could slap an Ultraportable system together.

[@techdweller5092]

3:57-4:04 its wednesday my dudes

[@bbxsumit5384]

I'll still sell myself for a upgrade from intel HD 4000 :/

[@VladSvoka]

I really like how Linus deliver ads. Only Show I don't skip ads. Good job Linus.

[@Akash77133]

Oy 3:12 thats gonna be ryzen 5 1500x -_-

[@AVikingNerd]

No, it's the 1600x, they were comparing it against the Ryzen 5 with the closest comparable stats. It's correct. Its cheaper than the 1600x and can go toe to toe with it.

[@damstachizz]

The 1600 and 1600X are 6 core, these are 4 core.

[@Akash77133]

SyntheticBrilliance the ryzen 5 2400g is equivalent to ryzen 5 1400.ryzen 5 1600 is out of the question

[@spiffo5349]

the second generation cores and 4+0 CCX configuration (compared to 1600X's 3+3 config, which is worse since communication between some cores is slower) makes the 2400G and 1600X comparable.

[@drpotato5381]

What!? Linus reviewing something that isnt expensive what is this the apocalypse?

[@yaseen157]

The trouble is, not all motherboards have onboard display I/O. Only a handful of motherboards have an onboard HDMI/DVI connector, so not everyone will be able to use it as a simple upgrade - that being said, I don't know anyone who would've bought a motherboard without onboard graphics connectors, and not bought a graphics card anyway. This issue will only affect people who have bought components like motherboards and RAM for their budget build, before finalising a CPU SKU or GPU

[@pizza_man4329]

these graphics are 2 times better than gt 610....

[@movieminibytes4780]

Bro its morethan gt1030😂😂

[@pizza_man4329]

@@movieminibytes4780 i don't see gt 1030 even in my dreams... :(

[@RichardDower]

Great for laptops.

[@ilpatongi]

Richard Dower 100 watt power draw, god no

[@uncledaydays]

They already have laptop variants, Which are still vastly superior to anything from intel.

[@DingDang3D]

laptop have r3 2200u, r5 2500u, r7 2700u tdp 15w

[@noizzyg6590]

Jeremy Clarkson the laptop version is out there, just google it

[@irhandlehandle]

This IS a laptop core. Just like how Zen1 was the same CCX, from laptops all the way to EPYC servers, the G (modified Zen) is on laptops and a low power version is coming out soon (2200GE and 2400GE)

[@suryaya441]

I remember when this was so good for 2018. 5 years later AMD still running on Vega with their desktop APUs

[@d4rkness829]

I have a discrete gpu (gt 1030). Im TRIGGERD

[@ViceLibertyAndreas]

that's okay, gt 1030 has dedicated 2gb vram. ryzen 2200 and 2400g has to use your ram.

[@irhandlehandle]

Just use the 1030 with your 22/2400G. That way, one gpu can stream/record/render/compute/mine while the other is used in games.

[@Thesinistereyes1]

the difference is that with the gt 1030 once you upgrade your gpu you will have a useless paper weight while if you get the 2400g you always have a free slot.

[@DaniRumping]

I feel like if these were used on a console you would have much better performance just because of optimisation.

[@Kennorx]

consoles already use something pretty similar to that.

[@DaniRumping]

I mean they use jaguar apu's right?

[@andreiteo6883]

PrinceCosmic yea but for devs its a long process and also its quite costy. Just think about how many configurations you can have

[@DaniRumping]

I mean you're pretty right.

[@kalashnikov1343]

I think he means not having the APU process the desktop environment, instead strictly running games. One day, I imagine there will be an open source OS that does exactly this.

[@freezoneproject567]

The only thing missing from this video is mention of how well the Vega GPUs, especially Vega 8 overclock. People are getting 500-600 MHZ over stock... And for these products, GPU OC is the crucial factor, since either CPU can comfortably handle their end of the job with integrated graphics at stock speeds.

[@BorkBorkDoggo]

Reading the comments makes me think half the people in them have never seen a computer, let alone understand what any of the specs mean...

[@onthespoke2]

Are we just going to ignore the Power Rangers cosplay?

[@cris33311]

0:20 are those CPUs still alive ? :)) looks like they have been through a war .

[@proficientplumbus]

SYNTHETIC LOAD

[@vapenation7061]

XD

[@coach10001]

I love Linus Tech Tips. But this nonchalant treatment of all things AMD is becoming way to obvious. Everything Intel gets treated with undue respect and reverence. But when its AMD, delid their gift 1950x, dont clean the heat spreaders when reviewing their APUs. Their are alot more examples of this trend if you go through LTT's library. It is what it is. Suppose if I owned Intel stock I would do the same.

[@skulltagfilms]

QQ

[@lukegino7206]

It is of value to people like me. Not elitists.

[@ZbladeVX]

Intel is better at the end of the day for gaming. And this is coming from someone with a 2700x and i7 8700k rig. Its your own budget thats making you so uncomfortable.

[@MedicMain9]

Stupid comment from a stupid Intel fanboy. Nothing new here

[@ZbladeVX]

@@MedicMain9 whos the intel fanboy here? Lmao

[@janisvaskevics93]

Screwing with beta bios and being unable to connect VGA monitor can be called interesting - just my experience with 2200G and A320M-HDV.

[@freegaming9820]

Are these better than Intel g4560+gtx 1030?

[@MPdude237]

Free Gaming In terms of gaming performance, maybe not(by a very small margin) but in terms of price to performance, HELL YES. A G4560+GT1030=$130-$170 and a 2200g costs $100and performs very similar(perhaps 10 FPS less AT MOST, but usually 1-7 FPS less) in games and vastly superior in Productivity focused tasks. The 2400g will perform mostly the same as the G4560+GT1030 combo in Gaming but even more superior in Productivity tasks. I should also mention that the GPU takes no PCIE slots(only 4 less PCIE Lanes, less heat in case, takes up less space, perfect for Mini-ITX and other small case builds) and likely uses less power. In other benchmarks, these APUs are vastly superior in Vulkan games.

[@meister550]

Both the 2200G and 2400G are better options if you want to upgrade the GPU in the future as G4560 is bound to suffer from stutters and unstable performance because it has only two real cores(2c/4t)

[@freegaming9820]

Thanks guys!

[@MPdude237]

Free Gaming No probs man, now go and save money!

[@freegaming9820]

Luis Maiocchi I am not sure about it after learning about prices of RAM. :-\