S Tier Thor Meets Magic | AoM Retold Experts Magic (Poseidon) vs Borg (Thor)

[@reverie9398]

I'm glad you're not turning off the game's music

[@slowthunder5540]

It's free background sound And it reacts to what's going on on screen to some extent 😉

[@ahmeteminaydn5613]

I can't make sense of no pickaxe no hand axe.

[@PG-mu7mz]

Bros only objective was to fight military, don't benefit from map control and just lose the game

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Everytime I watch your vids it makes me want to play. So dangerous. Great stuff Boit

[@georgetibbitts6025]

I’d like to see Posiedon going Ares into Norse to get the classical ace hypastists. I’ve had a lot of success in this matchup with infantry

[@markvanderwerf8592]

Cavalry with toxotes backup is better I think as Poseidon. Prodomos are great counter to any cavalry Norse can do and toxotes just good vs the rest. Moreover with hippeus, prodomos, toxotes you're not really providing any good target for their throwing axemen which Norse tends to mix in a lot no matter what. Hypaspists and hoplites are an option too but the issue is that hoplites are slowish for Poseidon and hoplites are only a soft counter to raiding cavalry. I don't think infantry is very useful for Poseidon in general, you got strong cavalry bonuses and no infantry ones really. As greeks I think you generally want to play 2 unit types because only 1 you can't deal with everything and 3 is too expensive. As poseidon you have such strong incentives to go cavalry that you generally want cavalry + archers imo. You could combine cavalry + infantry too but works much worse with pathing and toxotes are just better than hypaspists I think.

[@georgetibbitts6025]

Ares gives you access to tech that buffs toxotes and your hopilites/podoromos/militia. The latter is the really interesting one because it adds a flat +1 divine damage which is affected by the bonus damage multipliers. So I play posiedon with a toxote and combo Hoplite/hypatist in the classic age, and add podromos in the heroic based on the Norse combination. But relevant here is the classic age, where you can effectively deal with the norses army with archery and barracks without needing the Calvary. I’m also leaning into how telegraphed the hippeas are expected when playing as Posiedon, you can really abuse this just by building a stable and never producing anything from it

[@jlima5509]

been saying this for a while now. ares seems to be the way to go against norse early agression. early hypastists, buffed hoplites, and pestilence is great to assist on early push or late against map control.

[@samuelcodman4498]

This Thor build seems so broken literally run into it all day on ladder, so brain dead too

[@1337Kupo]

not getting spirited charge as Poseidon means you might as well just play hades or zeus

[@antonrodenhauser5257]

I feel like borg threw this game by trying to push the base and go for the immediate win. Obviously that's true for the very first attack trying to kill the towncenter. But throughout the game that was what he was trying to do. Instead he should have used his military advantage to camp the gold mines and other ressources. Try to make Magics villagers idle/walk around as much as possible. Aim for a win by having map control. Attack weaker parts of Magics base. E.g. go for second towncenter rather than first. Etc.

[@karlheber23]

Boit, can you switch the sides of the players in the display, so that the stats at the top correspond to the side of the map that the players are on? It makes it much more intuitive to follow, thanks!

[@trapperhewitt6478]

Walls can be placed in small amount and used very well (especially to guard early game flanks on ur gold/hunt) but that guy was definitely over walling and in the worst spots. But also you gotta go into RTS and not expect your teammates to do anything. So you gotta not play with randoms. Funny that guy is in the corner too so hes basically protected on all sides but the corner of the base🤣

[@oneapratclown]

holy shit magic is so insane at the game

[@morafaelpr]

a beautiful display of Magic's skill at this game(with my favorite civ)😂🔥

[@Venomerw]

this is why i love magic so much

[@devangnivatkar2649]

I think the Dwarven Mine is bugged ATM. It doesn't boost gather rate in later Ages as advertised

[@sebastianheselaars4315]

As a Poseidon player I fully enforce your statement about Norse being ridiculously strong against this god and the reasons behind it

[@pierer91]

Norse has always owned poseidon; was obvious how much Mat struggled v them on Titans. Now the devs have given norse an extra anti cav unit on top of this.

[@markvanderwerf8592]

Extra anti cav unit??

[@pierer91]

@@markvanderwerf8592 yeah they've got new anti-cavalry infantry unit. Was playing against them online and thought it was just ulfsark with different art and took the fight, got absolutely shredded alive.

[@markvanderwerf8592]

@@pierer91 hirdmen? They've had them for ages... Without them they would have zero counters to a unit like Contarius...

[@starcraft2own]

@@markvanderwerf8592 Ages? Its a new unit in retold. It's literally part of the newest set of units outside Freyr myth units. Norse did not have access to anti-cavalry outside of swine array from a minor god before retold.

[@PG-mu7mz]

Did bro had a bad day or why os he so critical today hahaha. No just kidding great casting and so much additional info 🎉🎉

[@Paddythelaad]

10 Vills idle/garrisoned for 43 seconds is on average around 430 resources, a hoplite costs 90, so it's like losing 5 hoplites (except your main's goldmine hasn't lost any gold etc). Norse lost 3 Hersirs, 6 Raiding Cav, and 2 Axe Throwers to deny 430 resources + kill a Centaur and 3 hoplites. While 1 TC vs 2. Chunked Theseus to half and got chunked while having Valks to heal. And Chunked the TC to half fwiw. How do you think it would have gone if he didn't attack the TC?

[@ΑλέξηςΒαλσαμής]

something about the alt t hotkey you are using, even though it flips the resources and the gps, it doesn't flip the colors at the top, so for example at 16:15 we see 87 villagers at poseidon's side (which is correct) but the meter next to it is still blue (which should have been red)

[@mikehunt8708]

Yeah that keeps confusing me too with the colors randomly being different

[@amadeusbender3417]

What counter cav does norse have ? They don't have anti cav like Greek has. I'm really curious because I play norse and struggle against Poseidon

[@juanluisdecamino963]

i might be missing something but how does norse counter cav? isnt hirdmen the weakest countercav unit? and prodromos should do well against raiding cav and jarl no? im dogwater elo so idk

[@vinconssier4224]

I feel validated man I thought I was going crazy, playing Poseidon and getting demolished by Norse. People saying Poseidon is OP? No way. I’m doing wayyyy better as Hades

[@thehumanity3324]

3:00 Im a bit of a noob, but why wouldnt you want to advance to classical asap? What else should he be doing?

[@ProxyGateTactician]

You still should, but he went too fast so had to make less villagers as a result. That means if you can't kill the opponent's villagers very early then you're already behind

[@Crysis051264]

So what is this evolution of the meta doing at the moment then? Poseidon has been the #1 S tier god for maybe 2-3 months now, and Thor becoming the new abuseable meta has now sent Poseidon to the bottom of the God Tier list? Im sure there are meta's for each and every god, but seeing this early release, meta scrambling, and the rate at which top picks are replacing eachother, it makes me think we havnt even discovered half of the worthy metas/gods that are viable S tier, due to the game not yet being out long enough. I could be wrong. Also sry for saying meta so much. :s

[@mythology2467]

It's AtAAAAlanta bro

[@riccardoligresti4960]

❤️❤️❤️

[@jackafa92]

we need a tutorial on walls

[@NotFlappy12]

You place them, and it prevents the enemy from walking through there. Hope this helps 👍

[@hardworkpaysoff4206]

​@@NotFlappy12😂😂

[@PG-mu7mz]

X key

[@crisshardy]

Poseidons is way better than Thor, on every penny of this game. Thor is strong bc the Dwarf Armory, well Poseidon builds a farm, for free and keeps atracting wild animals. Well Thor has great counters vs Cavalry.... yeah, he needs no spent 50% more resources to counter Poseidon Centaur/cavalry raid and he just stops the raids, there are not enough army to counter push. Thor needs so much skill to get the build perfectly, and if you dont do every step perfectly, it cost you the game, while any greek god basically plays the same and most of tge things can do with auto queue or with one right click. If they nerf Thor, that will be the most dumb thing ever, because finally players found a chance to play, win and have fun on the top of the ladder besides the greeks.

[@KOSOVOisSERBIA222]

YOU ARE dumb as fk, if you need skill to build walls then dont play this game