S&W 327 Performance Center: Short Barrel Ballistic Gel Test

[@kydeerslayer3232]

"Little J-Frame that only holds 5 rounds" .........tuck my tail between my legs.......go open the safe......*yelling at my J-Frame telling her that shes not good enough*

[@PatRMG]

You've broken the internet with that comment!

[@DEATH_TO_TYRANTS]

🤣

[@LostintheHate]

Little j frame no good some of a dog gone b….

[@jamiesloan5902]

Great video!!! Too many people just don't understand that every hollow point out there is designed for a "specific" velocity, for optimum performance. Excellent demonstration of that, my friend.

[@PatRMG]

Thanks Jamie!

[@TheOldFatDadGoober]

Neat little snubby and awesome ammo. Love to see companies innovating!

[@PatRMG]

These are definitely innovative!

[@klous671]

Nice revolver, 8 rounds is amazing in that small little package. Interesting results with the gel also. Thanks for the video and info!

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching Klous!

[@chubbethsthunder]

The Federal Premium HST is great ammo. Great penetration and expansion from a short revolver. Thank you very much. You and your family have a blessed weekend!!!

[@PatRMG]

Thanks Chubbeth! Have a great weekend yourself!

[@jamiesloan5902]

Chubbeth's Thunder I love Federal ammo!!!! That's about all I buy. Even their cheap stuff... I just bought 1,000 rounds of Federal .22lr, and 100 rounds of Federal 12 gauge clay shot. Bought 600 rounds of Fed 9mm, just the other day, too. Oh. And 400 rounds of Fed .223. Remington green & white box, for second place. I've bought those brands years before I even started watching Hickok45, and Paul Harrell. lol I should be good, for a week, or two... Yup. My range is half brass, half grass. My wife says "Won't that tear up the lawn mower blades?" Haha

[@husseinn.3851]

I rotate my carry between the pug and a G43 I changed the grips to rosewood and chamber 357 mag. That's what I bought it for . Thx for showcasing this beauty

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching! I still need to do a 357 short barrel test sometime.

[@joesierolon5171]

I return my so many times to S&W due to barrel problems that they built me a totally new 327 and it also failed they told me to choose any revolver from their web page and ended with the model 27 super nice I love it too

[@PatRMG]

This 327 has been fine. Not had a problem yet.

[@Warthog71]

I love these ballistic vids you do. You can always go down the reloading rabbit hole!

[@PatRMG]

Reloading will happen within a years time!

[@ToddTheGunGuy]

Dude. I love that snubby🥰 You are making my collection a lot bigger everytime I watch your videos. That is a devastating round🤙🤙💪

[@PatRMG]

Sorry to be feeding your collection!🤣🤣🤣

[@redesert_boy8202]

Good examples of expansion in the quest for a good self defense round in the short barreled revolver. HST of different types are definitely in there with Speed Gold dot and Hornady FTX. Really nice revolvers. Thanks sir!

[@beck-tn9gl]

Great video. I've had the 627 PC for over 10 years, and it's a handgun. I definitely would like to add the 327 PC to my collection. I liked the results of the HST ammo for short barrels. I get some for my S&W 442.

[@JoshBenware]

That's why I carry these HSTs in my 642. Awesome rounds!

[@PatRMG]

Yeah, they work. Trying them for myself was rewarding.

[@brewcesroofless-e4612]

That Model 327 is beautiful! Thx for sharing ur findings...

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching!

[@bwax1542]

Awesome news. Now I know what I need to carry in my S&W 327 PC. Thanks for sharing.

[@PatRMG]

Glad to help!

[@kbkesq]

Enjoyed the video. Will have to lock up some of those HSTs. Lovely thing about this gun in 357 is it is going to pack a punch regardless- even the right 38 special loads.

[@keewis11]

Very first pistol (1978) was a Smith & Wesson 19... thousands of rounds through it, still best shooting pistol ever!

[@PatRMG]

I love a good S&W!

[@WhereEverYouGo...-kv3fk]

Now here we have someone who did it correctly. Good video, informative. No B.S. But what I appreciate most is him not acting like little girl and bitching about the recoil and pain on his wrists unlike that RattlesSnake channel guy who even moaned when he was done shooting only a few rounds. Keep up the good work 👍

[@williejamehufff3125]

I’ve been saving for this revolver for a while. I’m looking forward to your 357 update.

[@PatRMG]

My gel blocks are all shot up at the moment. I'm working on getting them melted down for more testing!

[@williejamehufff3125]

@@PatRMG Pat, did you end up getting a chance to test 357 out of this? Thanks

[@HeavyMetalGuns]

That HST expanded great,cool test!!

[@PatRMG]

It did. Thanks Paul!

[@plixplop]

The Nestle Quik rabbit isn't getting anywhere near this man's Yoohoo

[@PatRMG]

Daggum right!

[@richardh418]

I just purchased one today for $1115.00. It is going into my collection and not for shooting because it is a very rare revolver and will go up in value very soon. Nice video on ammo choices.

[@PatRMG]

This one is getting shot. I'm gonna get my value in joy per round!

[@Richardjohnson6969]

It’s not rare. Shoot the gun.

[@thesinfultruth7697]

It’s pretty rare but u can still shoot it.. they are selling for 2k now

[@thesinfultruth7697]

@@Richardjohnson6969 it’s pretty rare.. they don’t make them anymore.. Their selling for about 2k now…. But he should still shoot it

[@richardh418]

@@thesinfultruth7697 I still haven't shot it or any of my other revolvers. Just my daily carry and two other pistols. My daily is a Smith and Wesson 45acp that I had all the internals polished and trigger tuned by a military company called MCARBO.

[@mobilemcsmarty1466]

the 327 is almost perfect. if that munchkin barrel had just another inch I would have ordered one yesterday (maybe two). hopefully there will be a variety of barrel options in the near future. +1 inch will make zero difference in concealability. S&W listen, even go for +2 too why don't you? generally available ammo will then work just fine without having to go for something special and dedicated to make up for the "short"coming of the gun 😁 the ammo is pretty clever though. Federal went out of their way to give the projectile another 1/4" for stunted guns by redesigning ammo, wow! how might that work in properly barrelled guns 🤔

[@R4MT1]

Great looking revolver. Cool it holds 8 rounds. Very informative on the ammo and it’s scientific testing was awesome. 👊👍🇺🇸💥💥💥

[@PatRMG]

I had fun with this one. Thanks R4!

[@doddgarger6806]

For the size you can carry most any 3"+ with a 10 to 12 capacity and probably get similar terminal ballistics

[@PatRMG]

I've got a Glock 27 that I've put a million miles on. I agree.

[@doddgarger6806]

@@PatRMG even a g19 is pretty easy to conceal

[@chicowize]

Looks like the second shot out of the 327 started to tumbled. Regardless those would still create a crazy wound channel. Also my Brother has a 7 shot 357 Magnum-Taurus model 66. Thanks for sharing.

[@PatRMG]

Yeah, the second shot either tumbled or had just a little less velocity. Almost an inch and a half less penetration.

[@Bushmaster10MM]

Greetings my good man. This was a very good video. I found it informative and useful. This is a topic I often gave though to, based on this precise handgun. I always personally just imagined I use 38 special 158 grain LSWC or LSWCHP. Thanks again for your efforts, be well... JB

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching!

[@michpatriot9097]

Well now this is good to see! I have been wanting a 327 pug for years and finally ordered one it'll be here next week! Can't wait! My daily carry is a 340PD and I'm thinking this 327 will be a nice woods/ hiking revolver, Gona get a shoulder holster and also try it with a smart carry...the grip will just stick out the front of the waist..might just be a workable setup but anyway a shoulder holster for in the woods. Great vid not all tactical just good info. Keep posting I'm subbing.

[@PatRMG]

Welcome to the channel and congrats on your new 327!

[@packrattsplace537]

Thanks for putting this info out there, very helpful!

[@babyhulk5977]

The 327 is a cool little beast!

[@PatRMG]

It definitely is!

[@Cesarhernandez-wv3do]

I don't worry about expansion I use Underwood ultimate defender. Never fails.

[@chuckjenkins4830]

Gonna have to get you doing some fast draw competitions!! All great info! Thanks Pat!!

[@PatRMG]

Thanks Chuck!

[@jeffperry4929]

That's exactly what I carry in my little 642 great video thank you

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching!

[@buffalosoutdoors]

That's a mean looking little revolver.

[@PatRMG]

I have to check if it's under my bed at night!

[@NormanPOlt]

Came into a supply of these projectiles (which are pretty effective in the Model 442 J-frame as well) and have reloaded them in 357 Magnum brass at higher velocities out of a Model 19 with a 2 1/2" barrel with some success. With a N-frame one would think further load development practicable: the factor to be determined would be exactly how much more velocity to add before breakdown of the projectile becomes problematic...? Expansion of the factory +P loading is excellent.

[@ponthis1]

That was really nice expansion from that short of a barrel. I cast and load my own to get that kind of expansion... soft cast lead hollowpoints. They aren't very accurate past 10 yrds... but they open up about dime size.

[@PatRMG]

I need to get into reloading. That's going to happen soon.

[@Turbo44mag]

If you balance the lead (not easy until you've done it several times) and hot load the shell you will epitomize your distance.

[@w2evf]

thanks for the info - never even thought of needing ammo optimized for that short of a barrel.

[@PatRMG]

Yeah, shorter barrels kill velocity and lower velocity kills expansion and energy transfer.

[@tswims92]

I wish they would come out with a 3” barrel version. I think that might be the sweat spot.

[@MaxHeadspace9mm]

I used to have one of those. Most beautiful revolver on planet earth in my opinion. I was offered double what I paid for it so I sold it.

[@PatRMG]

The 327 or 627? I think the 627 is gorgeous.

[@MaxHeadspace9mm]

Pat Realmanofgenius Funny. Mine was the 627. And I was thinking the 327 was better looking. Guess that proves the saying, “ you always want what you don’t have. “

[@zakk4321able]

If you can find it the 38+p golden saber short barrel works well and isn’t a pita when reloading and or the speer gold dot short barrel 38+p or 357 mag 135 grain does great out of 2 inch and under barrels in my experience and research. May want to give them a try. It’s damn near impossible to find the locally for me and I’m in a bigger city, so your likely gonna have to order them as well.

[@PatRMG]

I'm in a rural setting. Our gun stores are kinda limited. I've been watching for the Speer short barrel 357. You're right, I'll have to order it most likely.

[@mike34744]

I would think the Underwood Extreme defender will solve the expansion problems in snubbies.

[@PatRMG]

That's a projectile that I'd like to try.

[@matthewlee837]

Interesting information. Ive been looking at getting a stub nose never thought about them not expanding out of one. Nice to know there is some 38 special that will do the job

[@PatRMG]

Yeah, the HST definitely does it. I carry HST in my others as well.

[@rocknraptor3195]

Nice definitely impressed with that expansion!! 👍

[@PatRMG]

The HST micro does really well!

[@billthemailman9195]

Looks like a great lightweight firearm for EDC! .38 or .357 looks great!

[@PatRMG]

Full house 357 magnum is snappy but these HST were pleasant.

[@37gdog]

I have this ammo in every gun that I ever carry. 45acp, 9mm, .38 and .357. It is superior to all others in my opinion. Shooting The Bull KZbin channel does a good 9mm review and test of this ammo.

[@PatRMG]

I've got HST in everything too.

[@CarolinaGunGuy]

I had to rewatch the part where you're pointing that *weapon of war* directly at your head in the first 30 second or so. *What if the gun decided to load itself and pull its own trigger at that time?* Dangerous game, friend-o. 😂

[@PatRMG]

Yeah yeah. Just don't pitch a man hissy!😁

[@StormAngelWolf]

Now that is a good video we can really use buddy. Love it!

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching!

[@dougcook6285]

They expanded pretty nice Thanks Pat

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching, Doug!

[@chrisbaxter2996]

Man the slow mo really tells the story... almost looks like not much is happening on the real time

[@PatRMG]

I finally figured out that I can freeze frame the slow mo. That felt like I was flying a rocket ship when I found out that I could do that.

[@RickyJr46]

Good job sir! Thanks for the very convincing test.

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching!

[@scottf.3808]

Nice testing and good expansion....Good stuff....

[@PatRMG]

Hey it's Scott! Great stuff!

[@wakkywabbit5446]

Nice work smock.

[@PatRMG]

Flea market buy. $1 and I was happy!

[@14words4ever]

hello, have you tried buffalo bore's 38 spl LSWCHP (standard pressure) out of a snub nose? :) you might like it too!

[@PatRMG]

Not yet, but I will put them on the list!

[@zaygammage]

First time ever seeing a 327 and 627 that 327 👍🏽 little pocket rocket 🚀 the wood makes the black pop out

[@PatRMG]

It's definitely sharp!

[@tmaddrummer]

I appreciate this very informative video from 4 years ago. Is this ammo in this revolver still king of the hill? Thanks and Blessings! (new sub).

[@plowboysghost]

(Comment attempt #2...heheh) Seems like I had posted a reply previously that's not showing up....for some reason. Something alone the lines of: One of the reasons I let go of my snubby .357 Mag in favor of the Bulldog .44 Special was that I'd rather have a 200+ gr .430" lead, flat nosed, wide meplat bullet than an unexpanded 125-158-gr .358" bullet. I may order some of those flying ashtray JHP Gold Dots and load them up for my Bulldog, though. They seem to expand pretty good at moderate velocities in tests I've watched. Love your channel.

[@PatRMG]

I've got some of those Gold Dot "Flying ash trays" loaded in 44 special. I might do a test of them too. Thanks for the compliment on the channel. I'm having fun and glad that someone enjoys it!

[@miketreen7403]

I can imagine that little thing is a flamethrower with full magnum loads👍🏻 Interesting concept with the deep seated hollow point.

[@PatRMG]

Yeah, magnums are interesting with the 327! It's crazy light too.

[@jefferyfarr6542]

I wish the whole 327 357 mag performance center 2" barrel you just fired was all black, like the Night Guard pug nose.

[@itsjustjoe3790]

.327 or a .44, I still wouldn’t want to catch a round

[@PatRMG]

Not even hand thrown from across the room! I won't volunteer for any of them.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

That's a sweet little gun

[@PatRMG]

Thanks Chuck.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Pat Realmanofgenius Yes chook was telling me about this video. I got better notifications from my friend that I did KZbin

[@PatRMG]

The notifications are definitely hit or miss.

[@brandonkock]

Another great video Mr. Pat.

[@PatRMG]

Thanks Brandon!

[@bobcatforever3485]

Pat, Nice video. Well done Gel test.

[@PatRMG]

Thanks Bobcat!

[@StrictlyPlinking]

Those are some handsome wheelguns!

[@PatRMG]

Absolutely! I love a Performance Center!

[@Kemrer]

Thank you

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching!

[@Leverguns50]

Look like those little bullets did a really good job

[@PatRMG]

Yeah. I was pleased.

[@NEPAGUNTALK]

Beautiful weapons, and I totally gotta git me a couple of boxes of that 38... Good luck finding 357's

[@PatRMG]

I think I've got a selection that will work.

[@kbkesq]

Was wondering what your favorite holster is for this pistol Concealed? Recently got one by Kaos concealment and it’s trash. Also have a nice simple fake letter one from Houston for IWB. Thanks!

[@davelamb7331]

Dramatic difference between the two. Nice when the results are clear ...hate when things are inconclusive.

[@PatRMG]

Yeah, this one worked out pretty well. I had a failed experiment before this one and ditched the footage.

[@Leonardokite]

Good info! I'll have to file that away for if I decide to carry my 38 special revolver!

[@PatRMG]

There you go!

[@wesleyhobbs9]

Have you had any trouble with erosion in the barrel or cylinder? How much 357 magnum have you shot through this 357 magnum revolver???

[@WHOTEEWHO]

💥💥💥

[@PatRMG]

🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@user-rd8vp6nq8b]

I like the 627 with 2.67, barrel, with a full size injector on the blood work gun, Clint Eastwood

[@PatRMG]

My 627 has the 5 inch barrel.

[@benboggess3131]

Didnt know 8 round revolver was a thing until today!

[@PatRMG]

Two of them in that video.

[@scottc.real_2legit_4u55]

That is a great demo and find for ammo that works in a short barrel. I've got to ask, I've seen all your videos and have noticed that you sometimes wear a shirt that says YooHoo and Luis. Are they a sponsor? They should be for the free advertisement, It's make me want to drink one right now!

[@PatRMG]

Thanks Scott! I've had the shirt for years. My wife hates it and keeps it hidden for years. That's how it stays looking so pristine.

[@scottc.real_2legit_4u55]

@@PatRMG They still should sponsor you I think. money money money

[@MrBuckeye63]

I love that revolver ... but If I spend that much money for a super lightweight 357 ... I will not be looking for 38spl ammo ... just saying .. great revolver

[@PatRMG]

I do plan to revisit one day with magnum ammo. I just wanted to try this +P. It performed properly though.

[@duggydugg3937]

every KZbinrs favorite expression ....go ahead and.....

[@PatRMG]

Roll that beautiful bean footage?

[@TheJohndeere212]

Great video.

[@PatRMG]

Thanks Arthur!

[@Cesarhernandez-wv3do]

I stopped using unreliable hollow points a long time ago. Much better to use extreme penetrator extreme defender never fails always does the job massive damage.

[@johnnyreb2217]

Those are cool looking rounds

[@PatRMG]

Definitely different.

[@TeNBeeS7]

Waou sweet little package in a useful caliber too. My dad is retired sgt MP usaf. Think I remember a model 12 38sp. During the 60'and 70's all tv shows involving police or bureau personnel had the sweet little snubnose 38.💪👍🏽👏god bless And stay safe and in theese crazy times. Hello from denmark🇺🇸🌍🇩🇰

[@PatRMG]

Hello in Denmark from the US!

[@tylerw8216]

But what happens when it hits a few layers of denim first

[@plausibleg.3170]

Gotta get me some of that stuff! Good video and thanx

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching!

[@scubaguy007]

With the HST you might want to add a denim/cotton tee layer on the front because I fear that the material might clog that massive cavity. Bare gel is great for the "marketing photo expansion" but in real life people that need to be shot usually wear clothes. I’m still trying to over come my jealousy for your having a 627 and a 327. I’m in counseling and things are looking good. Please don’t buy a TRR8, I couldn’t take that. 😉 Thanks for the entertaining videos. I know the time and effort that go into them.

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching!

[@richardrasnic3347]

Have never really messed around with revolvers very much, might have to give them a try some day.

[@PatRMG]

I'm getting into them heavily right now.

[@richardrasnic3347]

Pat Realmanofgenius I think my wife would like the safety feature of the longer trigger pull

[@jimmyholliman3026]

Man that is a sweet looking gun

[@PatRMG]

Absolutely.

[@fishyfishy1831]

Them revolvers are super sweet. 8 rounds of of 357 is amazing.

[@PatRMG]

They shoot so well too.

[@fishyfishy1831]

Yeah I need to get one I’ve always wanted a 8 rounder.

[@PatRMG]

@@fishyfishy1831 They're N-Frame which means that they're the same size as the 44 magnum 6 round revolvers. They're not giant, just a smidge larger than the others.

[@fishyfishy1831]

Oh ok. I’ll take that into consideration. Thank you

[@jefferyfarr6542]

Compare the Night Guard 2" barrel with the Performance center 2" barrel you just shot. For weight.

[@ChefAnatoly]

Nice work!

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching!

[@tacuazinful]

Magnesiun cylinder 😂😂😂😂😂 as mechanical enginneer i just died When I heard that

[@HonchoHustle901]

I absolutely hate revolvers, but this one I like.

[@PatRMG]

I like most revolvers!

[@Gunsandfun1961]

Nice test....

[@PatRMG]

Thanks Bobby!

[@brianmaxie8781]

Great video as always

[@PatRMG]

Thanks Brian!

[@scottmorgan1016]

That's purty. I like it

[@PatRMG]

Thanks Scott! You won the Alaskan Ballistics grand prize, right? Go to my about page and email me your address if you need a sling for it.

[@scottmorgan1016]

@@PatRMG that's so cool yes I need one and will send it thank you. I sent him the ffl info so he might ship it a soon. Feel like a little boy at Christmas.

[@jeffstone7912]

I love 357 Smith and Wesson’s. Especially N Frames

[@PatRMG]

I love the N frames too. 627 Performance Center is my favorite.

[@Warthog71]

You should do a video on the different types of projectiles. For example, I do not know what a wad cutter is

[@PatRMG]

Wadcutter is a target round that punches a perfect circle in paper. They're pleasant to shoot.

[@maryanderson4337]

I'm learning... Thank you!

[@PatRMG]

Thanks for watching!

[@jktinen]

great video, thanks! what ammo would you recommend for target practice at the range with 327?

[@PatRMG]

I shoot a lot of the Remington UMC 38 special in all my revolvers.

[@dentonsbackyardshow1013]

Love me some yoohoo and a s&w

[@PatRMG]

Better than a RC Cola and a Moonpie!

[@Fernandogskkk]

It has a Tatianium cylinder. Not magnesium, as said.

[@cigarsarge1]

Still love my revolvers...Pocket carry a 642. Would live to try one of those Scandium Frames.

[@PatRMG]

The Scandium frame is nice. I just dont like how the titanium cylinder will erode with certain Ammunition.

[@marclopez4249]

Man and I'm in the market for a new 357 mag..... There's a gun show this weekend I think i know what I might b buying this weekend thanks PAT lmao

[@PatRMG]

Do it Mark! You go buy that 357!