S282 Guide - Derail Valley Simulator

An in-depth look at the overhauled S282 Steam locomotive available in Derail Valley Simulator closed beta.
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[@Hyce777]

The blower is actually how it works IRL, mate :) you'd be waiting an eon without draft....

[@Railfan105.]

Ah, i should've expected to see you here. Hello hyce.

[@ram89572]

Look Hyce, you can finally have all the boiler explosions now.

[@3dprintedhardware]

@Hyce777 Since I saw Squirrel's first video on the steam train a couple weeks ago I've been watching your videos on how steam trains work and really been learning a lot from them. Anyways, in the video above Squirrel dumps the boiler to check the water sight glass. Shouldn't he just have manipulate the valves near the sight glass to blow the water out of it and then let it refill? Unless you can't in the game maybe 🤔

[@Jay-kc2pm]

@@3dprintedhardware yes, the tricocks (the 3 valves to the left of the boiler) would be the best and most reliable way to check the water level in the boiler. I don't know if DV Simulator has them implemented, but the previous version DV Overhaul did not simulate them.

[@weird1012]

Ah , the youtube steam king is here

[@Yogasefski]

Those engine manuals are about to be extremely useful.

[@idkanymore6897]

very, ive been waiting for them to add them back so i can go back to my trains to figure out what i mis-interpreted/doing wrong and to see what each train can haul

[@andrewo.9412]

@@idkanymore6897 there are tutorials now

[@davidty2006]

Nice to see boiler explosions being simulated at last.

[@RacoonySkaloonyOfficial]

Prior to Sim (The entirety of Overhauled) there were files for explosion steam pipes, meaning it WAS being created, they just didn't know how to do it at the time.

[@15nyonker]

The only problems caused by flipping from forward to reverse while in motion is mechanical. It is hard on mechanical components due to rapid change in motion, but the steam piston is DESIGNED to do this. In the early days, this was the only break they had, and on flywheel engines like traction engines, it is the only way to quickly stop motion in an emergency. A steam cylinder is capable of stopping a sawmill cold in a handful of revolutions. The power behind those pistons is insane.

[@RedMenace446]

one thing i love about it, and something that a ton of games miss, is just how LOUD a steam loco is, and how it sounds, most shows/movies/games give you the chugg at a soft level, adn always have the whistle, maybe the bell, but never get across just how noisy it is, and why people hated having them go through there town/ near where they lived in the city fun fact: the saying "they live on the other side of the tracks" which means, at least in america, that someone is poor/lives in a poor area, is because alot of towns that were created in the 1850/1860's onwards were built by the railroad companies, and they had standard layouts on ONE side of the tracks.

[@matthewkurtz5129]

A bit of explanation is missing with the cutoff. You ease it back once the train gets going to improve fuel efficiency at speed. Full forward maximzes torque, and easing off to neutral changes the cuttofff timing, less torque but also less fuel burnt. Its a lot like a cars transmission, although works compeltley differently, the goal is the same.

[@nielsleenknegt5839]

The cutoff full forwards provides a load of steam to the cylinders. If you ease it back, less steam gets delivered, but it is able to expand more, which gives the power without as much back pressure as a piston full of boilerpresure. That's why you can see big heaps of steam leaving the funnel while at verry low speeds, but a lot les while going at speed

[@ZergSmasher]

21:28 This moment brought to you by the ES&D!

[@TheOutlaw2.0]

*Smells like Kenosha intensifies*

[@Incognito-vc9wj]

I hope the need for flashlights during day will be addressed

[@Railman1225]

10:41 An even worse version is the blowback _explosion._ This is a boiler explosion where the crown sheet gives way before the boiler does, which the crew can prevent because of specially designed bolts called fusible plugs. These plugs were designed to melt well before the crown sheet does, opening holes in the top of the sheet, and acting as an early warning for the crew. If they failed for whatever reason, however, the crown sheet could start melting, and a hole could open up in it. Good news, it isn't a conventional boiler explosion that could kill anyone in proximity, and the steam rushing out puts out the fire, killing the source of heat and preventing more steam generation. Bad news, once the steam goes into the firebox, it'll follow the path of least resistance, which is the largest opening in the firebox: the doors. Even if they're closed, the steam could come blasting through them, scalding the crew. This type of explosion is EXACTLY what happened on the Gettysburg Railroad(shudders) back in 1995, and the investigation of what happened led the FRA to implement their 1,472 day inspection/rebuild policy(1,472 days is the amount of operation/working time a locomotive has between each inspection, and that many days translates to about 4 years). Edit: Edited some of the things I said due to inaccuracies

[@Nundevwizer]

The engine that suffered that crown sheet failure that forced the FRA mandated quad-annual inspection is on display at the age-of-steam in Sugarcreek Ohio. It’s still in the same shape it was in right after the explosion so the aftermath is there for all to see

[@ElderonAnalas]

it can, also, turn the steam engine into a steam powered trebuchet as well, since, the only point that the entire boiler and cab mechanism is axtually attached to the wheel frame, is at the front where the steam chest is, because, the boiler will expand and contract with heat, it has to be able to slide above the chassis. so once the steam is coming out of the firebox, it can also rocket the boiler forward and flip it over that singular fulcrum at the front.

[@AceBriggs6]

To further clarify, that is 1472 *operating* days, not consecutive calendar days, although most railroads will still perform a thorough inspection, boiler and all, on a locomotive that has sat for a long length of time without operating.

[@Railman1225]

@@AceBriggs6 Naturally, when a locomotive sits in place for an extended period of time, it tends to accumulate grime and start to deteriorate. Now, a big steam locomotive made of steel can take a bit of time to start rusting, but it's still best to thoroughly inspect it before trying to bring it back to operation.

[@engineerskalinera]

Fusible plugs don't work that way, the release of steam isn't that forcible. It's more of a warning mechanism for the crew: "turn on both injectors, drop the fire and jump!" What you described was a crown sheet failure due to low water which Getty 1278 suffered due to poor maintenance of the water gauges, they started showing more water in the boiler than was actually there due to limescale buildup. I'm not sure 1278 was even fitted with fusible plugs, not all locomotives had them.

[@pschlik]

For those at home, you actually want to leave the damper fully open (lift the lever up all the way) any time you want to get maximum power regardless of speed. While draft does naturally increase as speed increases, you still get a hotter fire and thus more steam by keeping the damper open. Only close the damper (lowering the lever) when you don't need the extra heat, like when coasting downhill. Closing it while going uphill is how you end up in Squirrel's situation, almost stalling on the grade.

[@squirrel]

Extra heat is wasted fuel. It’s the boiler pressure that matters. As long as you have that at max then the fire temp does not need to be churning through coal with the damper fully up.

[@mr8gandusmr8]

@@squirrel I can spend all the pressure capacity in like 20 seconds pulling heavy train in "overhauled", also the "reverser" is operated differently (1/4 for most torque, 1/1 for most speed)" then at full speed or uphill you save pressure by closing the regulator Has this game mechanic changed or is this just a different type of loco or what, can someone clarify this for me please :)

[@Razgriz__1]

​@@squirrel If you're working hard and you've got black smoke coming out the stack, it means you're wasting fuel since that's soot that should be burning up in the firebox rather than being blown out the stack. It's caused by a lack of oxygen in the fire, which means there's too much coal inside for the amount of draft you have. So you either increase the draft or, if that's not possible, you let the coal burn down until it's at the right level. If you're working hard up the slope, high temperature is what you want because it'll generate steam faster. Your steam pressure dropped too low going up the slope in this video and that's why you slowed down so heavily. In general, the signs of fuel waste are black smoke coming from the stack while under load, or steam being released from the safety valves, not high temperature. Higher temperatures are a sign that your fire is more efficient. When you actually want to use the damper and lower your temperatures is when you're going down slope, or otherwise going to be idling for a while. If you get the fire too hot and generate too much steam while you're working, your first resort is usually to lower the boiler temperature with the injector and then let the coal burn down a bit further. You would only use the damper in that scenario if you can't put in more water. As an interesting side note, US steam locomotives usually didn't even have a damper at all since it's not really necessary to use if the fireman is doing their job properly, it's more of a nice to have.

[@Razgriz__1]

@@mr8gandusmr8 The reverser in Overhauled works wrong and it was changed, the way it works in Sim (which is how it works IRL) is that it modulates efficiency vs torque. You only ever want it at full when you get started moving initially, other than that you always want it at the minimum amount you can get away with since lowering it decreases your steam usage linearly but it decreases your torque on a curve, meaning that lower is better. At 50% reverser, you'll have 50% steam usage, but something like 70-80% torque output. Real steam locomotives typically run it anywhere from 15-25% unless they're going up a steep slope or pulling a very heavy load.

[@KZ1993]

​@@squirrelyou're right about extra heat wasting fuel, but you didn't have extra heat on the grade. Heat and pressure are linked and when you're in full-forward, or "working in the corner" as it's sometimes referred to in the states, and you only have 9 bar on the pressure gauge with the throttle wide open, you certainly aren't wasting any heat. You were essentially operating at approximately 65% power with the pressure that low and almost stalled. More heat would have given you more pressure and more pressure would have given you more power and an easier climb. The challenge of steam engines is anticipating when you'll be using pressure so that it's there before the climb and that you're not wasting it once the climb is complete.

[@erumaaro6060]

28:15 That is a much cleaner stack. Hyce is gonna have a field day with this.

[@baronnecas2880]

Wow, I knew they were doing a lot, but simulating the level indicator changing on a grade is nuts 😂

[@Blindy_The_Bat]

I was checking for a new simulator video and it said uploaded 1 minute ago, woohoo! Let’s go!!!

[@Ninavask]

Love it! Shame you can't engine brake anymore while running but hey! Nice and complex is the way we like it to keep us busy.

[@SouRwy4501Productions]

Fun fact: the SH282 is actually based on the US army transportation corps class s200 mikado locomotive. The s200 was used extensively in the Middle-East and Africa. The s200 was developed for use on the Trans-Iranian Railway, and it would ferry supplies and equipment from the American side to the Soviet Union. They were also deployed elsewhere. In 1944, they would be largely replaced by ALCo built rsd-1 road switchers. There are many in preservation, but none in the United States.

[@TheOofertaffy]

Inspired is the word you're looking for, The locomotive would've been inspired because based means they took that locomotive, and replicated it in game, Inspired means they took a look at the locomotive, and took inspiration on it's design and made their own locomotive.

[@USAFreewayROTF]

I have successfully completed my very first freight haul with a steam locomotive. Here's what I garnered from my first trip: "Do I have enough water in the boiler?" "Is the train going uphill or downhill?" "Is there enough coal?" "Is the fire hot enough?" "Is the boiler pressure topped off?" "Is there water in the cylinders?" "Is the damper up or down?" "Did I leave the blower on?" "Is there enough water in the tender to reach my destination?" And I must be frank, I was more focused on the controls than I was paying attention to the rails, I end up missing signs that tell me I'm on a flat grade, low grade, or high grade. And I find myself having to adjust the damper and blower constantly to make sure I'm not making my firebox too hot or too cool. And the water gauge is a nightmare to moniter because the water in the boiler is shifting constantly. The water consumption from the tender is too high. So I must conclude that using a steam engine for trips is more terrifying than the DM3. But I had a blast driving it.

[@connorthemusicguru690]

I can now drive this thing because of your wonderful explanation! Even made it through a night where my lamp went out, and I didn't even have a lighter to relight it, so I was totally blind in the cab all night. Made it through without crashing or blowing it up!

[@Ylfven]

This looks awesome! Gotto get home and get the steamengine runnin' asap.

[@DJCatmom]

This is such an amazing setup for coop, I hope at some point we'll get that in DV. Steamers and shunting would be great to do with a friend. And you could use two DM3s as well, though that'd take a lot of communication to do right.

[@LinkTheHero]

There's some strange player profile settings when selecting a save file in the main menu that strongly points to having multiple players in the same save

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

Just need a whistle object, so one player can act as shunter and give "move away", "stop", "come towards" instructions to the driver

[@XxAdminChllaxX]

Not gonna happen in the next years since the game fundamentally doesnt support multiplayer, the devs have said this multiple times.

[@KarolOfGutovo]

S282 manual bout to be 10x longer

[@poilboiler]

There is just something awesome about steam locomotives.

[@tootzmcgee7144]

They're an incredible feat of engineering and ingenuity. There was not much like them in the world before they came along and we're still working with the same basic concepts to transport massive amounts of goods. It's like looking at the Saturn 5 rocket or the first aqueducts. We have this incredibly advanced civilization that still relies on the basic concepts these engineering marvels introduced to the world, and that's where it started. Seeing them in person almost becomes a religious experience.

[@taliakuznetsova7092]

​@@tootzmcgee7144it reminds me of the jokes about how society is built on boiling water but it's true. Burning coal? Boils water. Recovering heat energy from gas turbines that spin a shaft for power generation? Boils water. Controlling the power of atoms with eldritch power rocks that require extreme control and safety and shielding methods? All for the goal of boiling water. It's amusing and yet fascinating how sometimes the oldest concepts are the most useful. The how doesn't change just the what using/doing it changes.

[@tootzmcgee7144]

@@taliakuznetsova7092 That's just silly. There's also running water

[@WilliamEllett]

what an incredible machine! I can't wait to give it a try, once Simulator comes out and I know my routes well enough!

[@respecttheracing1657]

Hooray! I was scared the 282 wasnt getting a update. Happy to see my favourite engine overhauled!

[@DQFG]

Fantastic another quality and very imformative video, thank you @squirrel

[@bobykim5311]

Amazing helpful video! As always your level of explanation is of high quality.

[@erichd9460]

It would’ve helped to maintain reasonable boiler pressure on the coal run grade…

[@TheYvian]

Thank god, i was worried you would skip over this underestimated little workhorse!

[@thatoneguy611]

It wouldn’t call it underestimated or little.

[@cjstrader8171]

Now Hyce can blow up steam locomotives more properly. I smell Kenosha already Edit: The 282 sounds like it just went through puberty. I like its new "throat(s)".

[@ostlandr]

Impressive detail!

[@WarCrimes177]

note: both the blower and dynamo are too be on at all times during locomotive operation, this is true on real life locomotives

[@anonumus10]

Yussss, Managed to squeeze in a video just before release

[@YellowFox101]

Thank you so much for this. I kept blowing the boiler when this update dropped.

[@TigerWalts]

Was that quarter slipping at the end? If so it means the torque is similated to not be constant throughout the stroke which is very cool.

[@3dprintedhardware]

Yep, I noticed that too 👍

[@luispereira9999]

Dovetail games should take notes...

[@spartanv220]

Squirrel you and Hyce should do a collaboration 21:58

[@jbw4997]

I agree. Most of what I know on how to drive a steam engine is from him and peaches

[@KarmaCurry]

Have they changed the damper? Used to put it in the fully down position to open it but you seemed to be opening it by putting it in the fully up position.

[@TheCodifier]

Compared to the current S282, both the damper and regulator are reversed.

[@russko118]

@@TheCodifier thanks i was asking myself the same question

[@drez0847]

omg you play all the games squirrel, you really do.

[@Satoog]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@idkanymore6897]

the 282 is such an interesting engine to drive, it can haul a ton with ease but its very hands on, def gonna use it until i get the de6 which ill use to grind everything else

[@darrelljones5960]

this update looks amazing. im still waiting on it to release tho.

[@brandonmunoz9352]

Todays the day!!!!!!!!

[@red_rassmueller1716]

Still waiting tho...

[@atticusfelton3151]

@@red_rassmueller1716 1PM EST

[@darrelljones5960]

@@brandonmunoz9352 yep it just hasnt released on steam yet

[@drampadude9216]

It's 1 and I don't see a update

[@Xardueth]

Thanks Squirrel

[@Rob-lk8me]

I bought the game thanks to you, I am really enjoying the game

[@Fluxikator]

Looks like Zeibachs Steamer mod turned to 11. XD Too sad that the 060 isnt in yet.

[@crestfallensunbro6001]

from what ive heard they actualy brought him onto the team and he worked on it

[@Fluxikator]

@@crestfallensunbro6001 yep they did.

[@erumaaro6060]

27:30 pressure got back up before you stalled, phew! Also, the smoke is awfully black with a lot of embers. Is there perhaps an ideal amount of coal that would lead to a clean burn and possibly more power? Also, at low speeds, using the blower can help to keep the pressure high.

[@samcan9997]

there is you have to ballance the quantity of coal against the airflow in the firebox black smoke is normally a bad thing as its incomplete combustion and your losing fuel that could still be burnt go look at older british steam trains

[@erumaaro6060]

@@samcan9997 I meant to ask if this was implemented in-game. But from personal experience it doesn't appear to be the case. If anything it pays to have a full firebox, which increases the fire temperature. 😓

[@samcan9997]

@@erumaaro6060 yeah i was refrencing pre sim where you could get clean burns not tried yet

[@kaifb13]

a note, the red wheel *is* the reverser, not the "cutoff" the cutoff would be the indicator

[@Harey0407]

I was thinking it was odd he was calling the reverser a cutoff.

[@squirrel]

On steam locomotives it’s called the cutoff since that is its primary purpose

[@kaifb13]

@@squirrel Dunno where you have heard that one, the heritage line I volunteer at in the UK calls it a reverser and so do the diagrams and documents i have read on the cabs

[@jbw4997]

It’s the Johnson bar it adjusts the length of time the steam has to power the cylinder. Full forward “in the corner” the steam has the longest amount of time which means more power. The closer to centre it is the less time the steam has to power the cylinders.

[@lbsc1201]

@@jbw4997 It's only the johnson bar in the US. In Britain it's always reverser or cutoff.

[@jursh3936]

Just remember to check if you can get service where your taking your load. some places don't have water and coal. i took a triple mission from the harbor to food factory about 803 tons and i ran out of water at the steel mill and put all my money left in my wallet for water about 1500 lol and barely mad it too food factory had too use a shunter to move my load in and then drag the 282 back too the steel mill for service. on the sixth try out of the harbor climb i finally didn't blow my boiler.

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

One set of controls you missed: the airbrake release handles. On the tender it's the same red handle you see everywhere else, on the loco it's a grey/brown triangular handle just aft of the driver-side cylinder.

[@theromanorder]

Some of this is from some other things like hyce and another source i cannot remember and most of this is nothing in the game 1:38 how steam is generated 2:18 pistion (as it pull hot air into pistion and out chimy it draws more air from fire box making it hotter so more steam for the pistions to pull) 3:18 reffiling water snd coal 4:00 filling the engine of watter and coal (irl fill the fire box evenly eg fill the back and sides/coners not just the front) 4:48 water level and filling it (climing hill it will look more full, on decline it will look less full as water moves with gravity) 6:50 steam presure gadge and fire box temp 8:02 bell and whisle and windo oponing (to see well raining) 8:48 dinamo (genrates power for the light) 9:10 compreser (generstes presure for the break) 9:49 lubrecater 10:30 close fire box door for safety (hot air and ash blowen back, usaly in tunnel) when stastioned you can keep door open to bleed heat 11:58 the dampaner (lower it to lower heat so you dont chew coal 12:49 the blower releses more steam in chimny creating more vacume not as much as pistions, helps with blow back 13:00 speed gage, sander (helps with wheel slip) 13:55 independent break 14:10 regulator (throttle, pulls steam into pistions allowing movemnt, pull more for more steam in pistions so more speed) 14:30 cut off (reverser) turn forward for max power in forward direction (alows for alot of steam into the pistion so lots of pressure on each cycle of the pistion, used for climing or to help move massive loads) then switch to the bottom for other way (it changes the side the steam is pushed into in the pistion, dont turn it well moving) If in mid it decrease amout of steam in the pistion each cycle so the pistion will turn quicker but being less power but most efficient steam usege for speed (use to get a run up for hills then switch to power, or just for more movement) 15:24 water in pistion when stoped, dump it with cylander cock 16:10 lights at night 18:00 checks before moving 19:58 start on hill 20:00 if not on hill, 20:21 deal with water in cylanders 20:40 slow down once built up speed 21:07 what NOT to do when increasing speed (in this game at least) 22:16 why a caboose (helps break exspecaly on hill so your breaks dont wear out) 22:33 weight 23:15 very good start 24:50 climing the hill (when it slows down use sand to avoid sliping) 28:00 going down hill 30:02 reversing 33:10 quick exsample of light wheel slip

[@erickzimmerman8115]

Wow. Just wow.

[@adamw4245]

This train keeps me awake can’t run by itself

[@fishpop]

6:24 Gotta keep that Crown Sheet wet and NEVER let it dry while in steam.

[@justicaralaric3828]

im definitely getting this in vr

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

Ookay, that boiler explosion seriously took insanely little to trigger.. Tip: the cleaner the exhaust is, the more efficient the fire burns.

[@Biglulu]

And how do you make it burn efficiently?

[@tavova]

Super video👍

[@therocinante3443]

I did tons of trial and error, determined to figure this out without any youtube help... after a few hours, I decided to find a video lol. Thanks for the explanation, maybe now I get get more than 10km without running out of water hahah

[@marctheriault5531]

You call a "few hours" "tons" of trial and errors? 😁

[@jackhoughton942]

When he says give it the BEANS must have had a slip up thinking he was hyce hahhaha love the work man thanks for keeping us in to loop about the amazing updates

[@Phoenix84]

Are you planning a full play through of this like you were doing with overhauled?

[@maxhenderson8038]

I love this train.

[@Zhatt]

Shouldn't the "chugging" of the train match the stroke of the cylinders and running gear?

[@hartzaden]

of note, it would take a bout a day to sometimes 2 days to wake a steam loco form a cold start, assuming you dident want to go fast and rish having to dix the darn thing

[@thatoneguy611]

At the height of steam it could be fired up in a matter of hours if needed. It’s not done anymore since repair is much more difficult.

[@gray_cardinall]

lovely game, lovely video!

[@kornaros96]

21:23 Paul... You smell like Kenosha!!!

[@Taima]

Lmao if you turn on captions, at 27:24 KZbin interprets a couple off the slow chuffs as "thank...you..."

[@LeeAtkinson98]

The ash and black smoke from the chimney is wasted fuel, having a hot fire and less coal is more efficient as it will burn cleaner with less waste. A hot fire wont necessarily burn more fuel faster as youll need less coal for the same amount of steam generation. Its only a waste of coal if your steam is being vented from over pressure. Keeping you firebox temperature down and having too much coal is why you were dropping boiler pressure rapidly and slowing down way too much up hill.

[@Vincent5482]

18:00 NO fire isn't the most important thing isn't the fire its the water for the reasons that you mentioned earlier in the video

[@pho3nix-]

Seems like a cool game

[@Dr4g0nW00d]

I never know it was smoke that made the steam damn this game is educational as well

[@xztrhjfkFEDFgvferwcgxztzgzfs]

the one thing this game needed :D

[@keithpoulin944]

does anyone know if the update was relisted yet it I thought it was the 30th

[@jacksongalante234]

“If it won’t make it now it won’t ever *boiler at 9bar*” lmao

[@user-bd1lp4on6w]

Спасибо за хороший гайд.

[@bandusvod824]

32:36 That weird noise is not the water in the cylinder it's the warning that if you dont lower the firebox temp and put more water in it will blow!!!!

[@Squant]

They did so well modelling the whistle rope then completely dropped the ball with coal shovelling.

[@n3ur0ph1n]

Thank you for this video! Where can i get the braking car or whatelse it called?

[@captainjonna1034]

Still no update for D.V from Overhauled to Simulator, I just bare in mind peeps, there are many reason why its taken this long, I'm just guessing but since there small team there gonna be more easily affected by the stress of life and about 100 million other reasons, Devs are working on a nasty tutorial bug, it has to be fixed but still does stop me dreaming about driving a train with manual gears hahaha try to not let pride, passion turn sour, encourage the devs after all they could of not bothered at all with this update, most companies would of made D.V overhauled and just not bothered i feel (not think)......seeing alot passion going into the new update, thank you covering all of these additions and changes squrriel

[@tristonmurdock609]

fun fact: in real life the metal spaghetti from a boiler explosion is absolutely horrifying to look at

[@everythinggaming7938]

If you think steam trains are complicated the titanic and other older ships where also powered by vast amounts of steam. The Titanic had twenty-four double-ended boilers and five single-ended boilers. When all the double-enders were fully fired up and operational, they could consume approximately 850 tons of coal per day, or on average 35 tons per hour, and the Titanic had a total bunker capacity of 6,611 tons.

[@beforelifewaschaos]

“Well it's a good opportunity to show you what it looks like, when you blow the boiler... it's a bit of a mess...“ - *locomotive intestines hanging out all over the place* - 😂 that's a bit much of a bit of a mess.. laughed so loud just as i was eating at the moment 😂

[@ronanbrady8738]

keep da vidz comin

[@syitiger9072]

Is there any additions for ats? Are you completely finished with American truck sim

[@sheldondavis8546]

there is a new train simulator called railroader its a first person game set in the transition era of Appalachia its coming out this year

[@doubletapgaming1189]

I wish there was a tutorial for reading the rail yard maps in this game.... I can never find the right rail, and forget about it at night...

[@BearerOfJustice]

Can't wait to download it and try it! The steam loco is my favorite

[@thatlittlefox.]

Is the new 0-6-0 steamer in the game yet or does it come a bit later?

[@dionysusnu3881]

He explains that at 0:47

[@iar81c77]

the devs confirmed the SH060 is delayed by about a week

[@thatlittlefox.]

@@iar81c77 makes sense given The fact that they have already Been in a hurry finishing rest of The update.

[@Ladyoftheroundtable]

I dont think youd need more run up on that hill. Just run the fire hotter so you dont lose so much pressure. You said you need 12 bar, and you were down at 9

[@JoelLinus]

I wish you would've explained more on how the regulator works internally, otherwise very good video :)

[@15nyonker]

The regulator is very simply a throttle valve like any other vehicle. It is the Johnson Bar/reverser/cutoff that is unique to steam engines. That controls the direction and cutoff of the stroke.

[@JoelLinus]

@@15nyonker If it was simple, I would understand it, I tried to read up about it and I just can't understand it visually, I don't know how it "reverses". The throttle on cars don't put the car in reverse, the gearbox does...

[@15nyonker]

@@JoelLinus I meant that the throttle is simple. It’s just a basic valve really. The throttle doesn’t change direction on steam engines. the reverser does. Reverser gear is NOT simple and takes a lot of time to fully understand. Basically, without getting too deep, the reverser changes the cutoff in the cylinders, which is basically when steam is being applied in the cylinder during a stroke. Steam cylinders almost universally power stroke in both directions. They exhaust and power stroke at the same time. This is possible because both sides of the piston have valves for admission of steam. The exhaust goes out of a valve in the middle of the cylinder. The reverser adjusts the position of the valves in the cylinder relative to the position of the piston, which changes the cutoff of the stroke and the direction of rotation when steam is applied. I hope that helps a little. To be clear, this is one of the most complicated aspects of steam engines and I don’t fully understand it after deep diving into steam intentionally over the last year or so. I can’t blame anyone for not understanding it, especially since it is foreign to us in the 21st century because it is exclusive to steam.

[@JoelLinus]

@@15nyonker Yea that somewhat helps, it's hard to understand without visualisations definitely. The last quote sounds like a good reason, why it's hard to imagine in the first place.

[@3dprintedhardware]

@@JoelLinus The regulator is the giant bar that you pull back to make the train move. Think of it like the gas pedal in your car. All it does is open valve in the pressure dome which then lets steam go to the pistons down by the wheels. The pressure dome is visible from the outside on top of the boiler. The reverser is the red wheel on the lower right side and the easiest way to think of it is like a shifter in a car. Rolling the reverser to the forward position will make the train move forward and moving it to the back position will make the train go backwards. It also acts like a shifter in a car in the way that moving it all the way forward is like 1st gear in a vehicle, used for getting going from a stop or going up a steep hill. As you pick up speed, especially on a flat grade, you can roll the wheel back closer to the center which allows you to keep up a high speed while using less steam. Unlike the shifter in your car though, the reverser is not manipulating gears, it is just adjusting how steam is being sent to the pistons that turn the drive wheels. Hope that helps!

[@arrow1414]

These Australian and New Zealand steam locos look like the product of a mixed marriage between American and British locomotives. Buffers and a cow catcher (the same with Down Under Diesels)!?! 😅

[@stvrob6320]

Im hoping you can explain how the pocketwatch works.

[@lunanescence]

so excited.

[@ravenwda007]

You can auto teleport to the caboose via the map

[@Zinmar]

Question for the group here. I'm interested in playing with the steam engines. Out of all the simulators out there which do you think would be the best for a newbie at this sort of sim?

[@capt.raptor4650]

I myself am a newbie, and I've picked up this game along with _Railroader._ for a noob, definitely _Railroader._ you've got a few steam locos (including even the Berkshire) and they're fairly detailed but not as difficult to run (your controls are your throttle, reverser, brakes, bell, and whistle-and that's pretty much it) as Derail Valley's two steam locos. Railroader seems to be a rather new project and absolutely lacks polish (and maybe it's just my potato computer but it doesn't look as nice as DV either] but it is quaint and has plenty to do. might be what you're looking for.

[@FreightChannel]

Спасибо за гайд. Я из России, по этому смотрел через переводчик - но всё довольно понятно. У меня была проблема в том, что постоянный взрывался ведущий цилиндр и я не мог понять почему, оказывается - конденсат! Из видео узнал много нюансов о которых до этого неподозревал.

[@Taima]

Yeah, gotta use that cylinder cock lever. What were the circumstances that led you to building up that condensation anyway? It's something I'm trying to wrap my brain around because I'm new to this and don't know how long to really leave it open for, whether I'm definitely hearing water in there or not, and if I ever have to open it outside of like stopping for a long time. Hopefully all of this translates well. I thought about putting it through Google Translate first, but KZbin comment translations do that anyway.

[@davidolah925]

Don't you have steam brakes? Its when you open the clyinder drains put the cutoff to the other direction and it should slow the engine down, it works IRL. I wonder does the game have this feature.

[@pvt_picklestomp3014]

It will slow you down, but the drivetrain is modeled to take damage when doing so.

[@captainjonna1034]

Yes i was right but i was wondering what that lever on the left side of cab was actually for, i thought it might be lights.

[@aleksidimitrov2312]

I just have one problem, I noticed that twice my engine blew up even when I had enough water, but on these 2 occasions I noticed that there was lots of steam leaking from the cylinder cocks even though they were closed. Do you have an idea of what could be happening?

[@Coco-uo9rc]

Apply a little bit of less pressure prior releasing water

[@ernesttagliaboo6376]

I love American and German Steam Trains so much.🇺🇸❤️🇩🇪

[@robpownall9116]

I think the promised simulator update schedule has derailed

[@tin2001]

They said June 30, and there's nothing saying otherwise that I can see.

[@C.HenryBrown-ye5qo]

I don’t know if you can answer this but I was just driving my s282 and it just blew up, do you know how to prevent that?

[@tootzmcgee7144]

What do the numbers signify as far as steam engines go? 2 axle, 8 wheel, 2 gear?

[@3dprintedhardware]

2 wheels in the front.. 8 drive wheels..and 2 wheels in back. I prefer the look of a 484 or a 464 because only having 2 wheels in the front and 2 in the back looks kind of weak.

[@imgrootsimulations8787]

i thought it was coming out today