S2E6: Can I Run/Walk Faster Than Metrolink?

[@geofftech2]

"There's a lot of people wearing flat caps..." ;-D ;-D ;-D the end was geniuenly suspensful at to who was gonna win!! (I BRING THE RAIN. SORRY)

[@CallingAllStations]

Genuinely three including Karl on that tram 🤣🤣

[@TheFjmtb]

Did you not spot all the whippets ?

[@spdfatomicstructure]

Geoff, perhaps you could give them a run for their money

[@eastpavilion-er6081]

I've never been so fast to a Geoff Marshall video Wait wrong channel

[@GaryTurpie]

I was wondering what that red ark was on platforms whenever I have used the metrolink so cheers

[@actua99]

_D'you know what, because Geoff isn't here, it ain't rainin_ That's a good one :D

[@connectingwings7212]

Waiting for Geoffs comment 😂

[@actua99]

I have to say though, I've been to the north of England twice and had some lovely weather, even in February. Only had rain in Liverpool, but nothing a good pint didn't fix :)

[@harleancarpenter8043]

Good fun, and not that far from me, too. Glasgow Central to Queen Street, surely must be something?

[@raphaelnikolaus0486]

Gotta love Karl! Have seen him also with Geoff doing 2 or 3 Least Used Stations. Doesn't he have an own channel? He should have! Well, at least there should be more videos of/with him.

[@pwhitewick]

Nice one gents. Educational, entertaining and of course.... very useful.

[@marysweet8858]

Loved this one - great format and lovely to see one outside London (and bonus for it being somewhere I know well!)

[@alantorr4761]

Karl, the Northern Correspondent! The man, the legend. All hail (always seems to rain in your cameos buddy)

[@DavidShepheard]

13:07 Andy: "Morning. You are with Calling All Stations and..." Carl: "Mr Flatcap" LMAO!

[@UTubeThePatient]

Exciting video Andy and Karl! Picc to Vic (almost) was part of my commute for many a year. And yes, cycling was always quicker (ca 4 mins, downhill towards Vic). The best route only has 1 traffic light set. Tram street running always much slower. Who needs t'other Geoff?

[@Sim0nTrains]

Honestly, I never noticed the red line on the tram stop but defiantly a interesting tip and also a very interesting race. Great Video.

[@matthew1hyndman]

Another Interesting test might be the Metro Shuttle / Freebus (Number 2 Service currently) verse the Metrolink from Piccadilly to Victoria. I would suggest that from the main concorse level at Piccadilly it might be as quick just to head outside and get the freebus over to Victoria as that only an ten minute service between the stations. That only works one way (Piccadilly to Victoria) as the other way the freebus would take over 20 minutes.

[@notroll1279]

City walking is underestimated! People tend to think that underground systems are wormholes taking you from A to B in no time at all and forget the times for waiting at platforms, changing trains and all the stops in between. And these were races from station to station! My rule of thumb is that on average in a big city, a pedestrian usually beats public transport in distances up to 2 km and a cyclist should come out ahead up to 5 kms.

[@eldrago19]

I think a lot of the trouble is that it's a tram system not a metro or light metro. It is painfully inadequate for the needs of that size of city.

[@skyblazeeterno]

I suspect that most people do not bother simply because you need to know the area and roads well enough, often people are visiting places as tourists, may have luggage etc etc I certainly agree with you that at times its just easier to walk especially if its decent weather. IME the biggest "dead" time in using tubes is simply getting to the platform and getting out

[@petersibbald5444]

Should try racing Sydney light rail - so sloooooow! And it's on a dedicated right of way (old freight line). Great video as always.

[@andycleaver9135]

You should do the walk v ordsall chord challenge. In view of time it takes at piccadilly to walk from platform 13/14 to exit will make it close

[@Ian_Gregory_1988]

I've ventured to Manchester quite often and I never knew about the meaning of the red marker on the platforms, nice info to know for the future

[@johnh10000]

Good grief, I have lived in Manchester and now Greater Manchester. I have never noticed the red paint, for the double connection. Don't see the point.of it though, as Trams stop at the wheelchair access points.

[@peeky44]

I think it's mostly for the tram drivers - so if they're driving a single tram which turns around short of the end of the line (like the Victoria-Airport route) they can stop at the right end of the platform for departure.

[@johnh10000]

@@peeky44 That would make sense. Is there a website or something, as I intend to try the all the tram stops "race" next year. Advice that kinda thing.

[@andrewholloway231]

Thank you, I enjoyed this video.

[@RBXTrains]

Snow Hill to New Street please!!

[@SiVlog1989]

Manchester is a great city, such a great buzz about it :)

[@gabri_maybe]

Andy,This Is You’re First Victory Of A Race,Yaaaaay

[@jerryallen34]

Very enjoable. Thank you.

[@metropod]

I plan do something similar when the virus dies down. I live near the M train here in NYC and it’s the closest thing we have to a loop, the two end points, Metropolitan Avenue in Middle Village & 71st/Continental in Forest Hills, are a little over 2 and half miles as the crow flies from each other. Could a person walk faster than ride around through Manhattan.

[@leohoward7282]

Great video Andy

[@tobeytransport2802]

1:47 there’s usually one!! 😂😂😂 do they sometimes take it elsewhere?

[@Karlinski73]

Tobey Transport Didn’t even realise I’d said that!! 🙂

[@hairyairey]

There used to be a 50p shuttle bus between the stations back in the 80s

[@Karlinski73]

I remember it being 10p when I was the smallest of boys back in the early 80s. Those crappy little 'Centreline' buses!

[@hairyairey]

@@Karlinski73 Oh, maybe it was 10p! I used it occassionally between 1980-82.

[@peeky44]

It's free now. They link all the central stations on circular routes - so again might not be quicker than walking if they're going the long way around

[@oliverbrelsford5472]

What about Ashton to Piccadilly? One person would take the tram and the other would take the train to Victoria and the tram from there to Piccadilly.

[@DanLoudShirts]

Nice one chaps!

[@eastpavilion-er6081]

To be fair, the fastest way might be a bike.

[@SamLTate]

Only just. There are so many traffic lights and one way streets that it's a massive nightmare. They're supposed to be putting in a new picc to vic bike route though. gonna be years yet...

[@TheFjmtb]

I wanted to try to race the train on my bike from Manc Oxford Road (off the train) to Deansgate (back on) but I dont think its on

[@janverkoren8516]

@@SamLTate is cycling through a red light illegal in the UK?

[@chrisoddy8744]

@@janverkoren8516 I believe the rule is that if a cyclist is on the road, it abides by road laws, which includes stopping at traffic lights, giving way, etc.

[@MTCoblivsicas12345]

@@janverkoren8516 yeah. Abide by traffic laws. Also dont weave in between traffic it's tempting but you shouldn't cars don't expect you.

[@RichardFelstead1949]

Very enjoyable. How long does it take by train?

[@Karlinski73]

I've done Victoria-Piccadilly (and vice versa) via the Ordsall Chord a few times (out of sheer laziness) but never actually times it. Next time....

[@GryphLane]

Does Geoff visit Manchester a lot then?

[@harleancarpenter8043]

How about Stratford main line station to (non) International one?

[@desperatemohammedantheworl5833]

I always thought Manchester has three termini: Piccadilly, Victoria and Oxford Road. Some Liverpool trains certainly terminate at Oxford Road.

[@michaelbattman2971]

Oxford Road is not really a terminal; it has 4 through roads and one (Liverpool facing) dead end

[@smdhomeworkhelp]

KARL x ANDY = PERFECTION

[@Trainsimfan]

You should do mode of these.

[@rjc83x]

Well done lads. Who’s this Geoff character everyone keeps banging on about?? 😉

[@oliverbrelsford5472]

Geoff Marshall. He makes videos about the tube, national rail, and going to every station in the country amongst other things.

[@stanley3647]

"Peak District" hoodie ;)

[@howardbattersby5672]

interesting Statue. WWI gas attack victims presumably. Any commentary on the statue?

[@salfordiandy4987]

This is one of the main issues with Metrolink. It’s so bloody slow! People can’t get anywhere quickly.

[@iancampbell6925]

Edinburgh trams are just as bad, millions of public money wasted on a service that's slower cost more to use, has fewer stops and takes much more space on the roads.

[@alexthegrape1000]

MrAP_P It’s great for getting to/from the suburbs but in travel in the city centre is so slow you might as well just walk. The tram congestion doesn’t help though at all.

[@JalanBax]

Me: Just another normal day in Manchester. Andy and Karl: *races between Piccadilly and Victoria* Me: What?

[@Mikeb1001]

Shame the Picc-Vic underground link up never happened!

[@mohammedazizurrahman8348]

Come On Andy

[@harryelliott4310]

Metrolink

[@TheAlfsterino]

I'm sure Andy ran down the same street as Captain America did!!!! Not quite the same physique though...but I doubt I could do that in 8minutes!!!!

[@chrisjennings6539]

The Metrolink terribly slow in the city centre. It should be underground. I fail to see how a tram is any better than a bus. The Metrolink is expensive, louder than a bus (those wheels!) and requires enormous infrastructure without any of the benefits of an underground system. It's a shame that Manchesters transport system is so inadequate when compared to Londons. Having lived in both cities, you can happily live without a car in London but it's very difficult in Manchester. Tubes in London seem to have much more of a sense of urgency, rushing to and from each station, only waiting on platforms for 10's of seconds. Even the doors open and close open with a rush on the tube! Metrolink on the other hand seems to trawl along at a snails pace with dismal frequency. Once you factor in waiting times, driving is almost always quicker than the Metrolink. Until that changes, I'm afraid that Manchester will always be a heavily car dependent city.

[@davidwebb4904]

Google puts this at 1 mile even. And “normal” people walk at 20 minute mile pace. 🤔🤔🤔

[@MTCoblivsicas12345]

Quicker to cycle even faster on an E bike. But get a folding e bike combined with trains and Trams and your laughing around Manchester.

[@HatterDave]

Why do I feel like Geoff is being cheated on?

[@samuell.foxton4177]

I've walked it in 11 minutes with my associate

[@rubyait]

Good videography but a little “talky” for me.