Passive Air Defense and the Viet Cong

[@Protocol_17]

The Art of Denial by the Viet Minh, Viet Cong and the NVA was possibly their most effective tactic. After many of the big battles, US troops would look for enemy casualties and only find blood trails that eventually disappeared into the jungle. If you can’t see it, it’s like fighting a ghost. If you can’t count it, it potentially has a negative psychological effect on morale. In a war of attrition, the numbers matter.

[@Mithradates_of_Los_Angeles]

Simple Psychological warfare👏🏻👏🏻

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

The United States secured the population centers within a short time. The N. went to the Paris Peace Talks pleading to the US to stop the B-52 bombing. The demonic communists won the propaganda war within the US. The biggest mistake the demonic communists made during the war was the Tet offensive, where the VC were almost exterminated and the NVA required many months to recover enough to put up battles. The United States was being pressured from behind the curtain by the same organization that killed JF Kennedy, shot R Reagan, shape-charge destroyed the World Trade Center Towers, Pirated the US 2020 presidential election, installed their mental case puppet xiden, who gave away US high tech warring machines to Afghanistan, so to China and Iran.

[@faust7619]

Pretty sure it's in their culture to pickup the dead and bury them before a certain time or they wander aimlessly in the after life? I'll have to look into it more but I'm sure I read something about this.

[@JHamList]

in the sectors of vietnam where american allied forces managed to establish aggresive patrolling etc, viet cong presence was significantly diminished, in Phuoc Toy VC activity was virtually non-existant after a certain point due to aggresive patrolling and significant adherence to legit hearts and minds principles, unfortunately the Yanks never learnt the lessons that Brisish and allied forces did during the Malaya emergency, its very significant that in the australian AO, when local villages sustained battle damage due to australian operations that the aussies would send in engineers etc to repair damage and rebuild, whereas the yanks and they hamlet program would uproot entire communities making them ripe targets for recruitment by the VC and NVA, counterinsurgency requires a long term outlook....

[@djpsy9538]

Its Guerila tactic 101 big govermants Usa or Russia or any in Eu cant do much against small fast and traind groupe that attack stratigecly. Look at IRA or ETA or even take a look on Israel and Palestina. Israel Palestina is literaly basick in Gray man and guerila when they need 2 hit they provoke army attack so fighters can do there job.

[@ClodiusP]

Fun fact. A single man's track across a pristine wheat field can be spotted with an eyeball from as high as 10,000 feet. Learn to read the ground before crossing it.

[@Oclb]

S2 you guys are on my daily rotation of videos. I take notes so I can have physical copies to distribute when the time comes that it’s needed!

[@rotgut14]

DAMN GOOD IDEA!

[@swamplight79]

The learning info is needed now--- just before the time comes--- not when it comes... THEN is time to act. Learn beforehand then act. 👍

[@faradaysage15]

if you think a time has come where we need to use this stuff, you should reevaluate the FBI agent talking you into doing something illegal.

[@swamplight79]

@@faradaysage15 *cringe with brief nervous laughter* ... yeah... and that too... This is probably one of the spookier comments sections on YT... ... just feels like a place someone could be picked out to be steered a little bit by the ones that like to do that kinda thing... Just sayin'

[@malcolmliang]

Pretty good information, I think the modern forces suffer heavily from hubris and rely too heavily on technology that may not be available when the time calls for it. Would love to hear about low tech operation without radios, some of who we consider typically consider hostile forces were actually quite stellar at it and surprisingly we aren't adapting to low tech ops. Would love more videos on command structure of different organisations too and how they function in a low tech environment.

[@rotgut14]

Technology has absolutely become the first world's military, Achilles heel

[@napalmholocaust9093]

You can pulse Morris code through train track with it's own signaling gear.

[@ImperiumLibertas]

All modern wars to date have not had an issue with technology being unavailable. Most wars aren't nuclear wars where radiation or EMPs are used to disable electronics. No doubt the military relies on technology but for good reason and if they had a reason to think it would work against them they wouldn't use the tech. Throwing away the near decisive tactical advantage modern technology offers to address a scenario which is unlikely to be faced would be unwise.

[@freedomloverusa3030]

@@rotgut14 ironically, yes.

[@freedomloverusa3030]

@@ImperiumLibertas think out of the box.

[@pureaccuracy874]

The absolute best defence is the mk1 eyeball of a widely dispersed spotter network, around likely targets, routes of aircraft, and if you are an insurgent or a Serb, then sat at the airbase itself, watching aircraft take off and checking what they're carrying

[@Fede_uyz]

This is why the battle of mogadishu went down like it went.... They used the same template for a few missions, so the somalis just left spotter outside the base and knew exactly what would happen

[@nobodyherepal3292]

This would be all but useless to aircraft carriers at sea or long-distance air missions from far-off bases.

[@Fede_uyz]

Observers with boats and a telescope.

[@pureaccuracy874]

@@nobodyherepal3292 the Serbs put their spotters in Italy and everywhere with an allied force base. Still relevant, but that is how they managed to take down the f117.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

@@Fede_uyz ok, how the whole would a fishing boat even get with in telescope range of a carrier battle group? It’s escorts spread out over miles and have constant helicopter and air patrols around it to help protect it. There’s a reason the Iranians and the Somalis haven’t just attack one even if they wanted too.

[@themcchuck8400]

The Vietnam war wasn't merely an insurgency. The North Vietnamese Army was full involved the entire time, using Laos and Cambodia (not to mention North Vietnam) as safe havens, much like the Taliban used Pakistan. In fact, the Vietcong insurgents were effectively wiped out as a result of the Tet offensive, and never again played a significant role in the war.

[@sovietspy8866]

If they had no effect why were they so feared? It wasn't dying in a battle that scared most troops, it was the idea of being stuck with a shit covered stick on a lengthy patrol.

[@tevarinvagabond1192]

Plus the US didn't lose...it chose to move out because people back home saw no point. I thought this channel was more factual

[@sovietspy8866]

@@tevarinvagabond1192 I hate to do this but that's a loss, it seems like it's a different issue but its addressed in the art of war, "wars must be won swiftly or else it puts pressure on the state and exhausts its armies will to fight"

[@tevarinvagabond1192]

@@sovietspy8866 For one, we both know you don't "hate" to do this. Secondly, there's a difference between losing a war and ending a war. The US ended the war for itself, but it didn't lose. FRANCE and South Vietnam lost, not the US; the US was merely an ally.

[@sovietspy8866]

@@tevarinvagabond1192 yeah I don't hate doing it anymore, what's the name of Saigon? What's saigon called right now? Exactly, you backed the losing horse get over it. If losing all of your territory and having thousands of in country assets murdered by the opposition for corroborating isnt losing then I don't know what is. You promised those people freedom and they fucking died while you ran with your tail between your legs. Oh but it wasn't american citizens who paid the price so who cares not your L right? Wasn't even your war right? Fuck were y'all over there for then. Goofy.

[@snicklefritzd3612]

Thanks for touching on the past to help us think about the future.

[@NoSaysJo]

@@callsignjoker2686 lmao cringe

[@politicallyinsensitive4200]

It amazes me that people still think that if a war broke out in America the military would win decisively over the average citizens; due largely to the technology.

[@thomaszynda]

Oo

[@thomaszynda]

P

[@bnalive5077]

@@callsignjoker2686, you’re fucking high if you think people should pay those prices

[@germen343]

The average American cares more about drinking beer and watching football than their rights. The modern American is a coward and a loser that deserves nothing but contempt.

[@MsAmeisen]

@@callsignjoker2686 Thermal protection/footprint avoidance is absolutely crucial against a technological superior enemy. Thank you for your suggestion. Much appreciated I will look into the matter.

[@navyman8903]

Excellent video as always, and historical references are solid places to get practical information from. Thanks for keeping the uploads coming.

[@motorboat3478]

what are you gonna try to shame S2 for internet points now?

[@navyman8903]

@@motorboat3478 What sense does that even make with my comment or how I support their channel? Lmao. Quit being messy, if you have beef, take it to my channel like a normal grown adult. Quit cyberstalking me like a child. I'm easy to find.

[@Namenlos_1312]

You cant imagine how many people getting help through your Videos, thank you for your work , Danke !

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

Part of damage mitigation should include legitimate cover from aircraft attacks. Underground tunnels , steel reinforced concrete basements/bunkers, etc. You might not be able to get cover from something like a MOAB unless you are very deep underground, but against normal munitions you can get cover from at times.

[@5GWGuerillaFighter]

The e tool is your friend. Earthworks are the most effective and low cost passive air defense

[@Heather-xm9ul]

For guerrillas, a screen could be put over reflective glass. It won't eliminate ALL reflection, but it will definitely reduce it.

[@mattfleming86]

Even old fishing netting can work. The idea is to break up "square, large, shiny" as much as you can without destroying your own ability to observe. Driving through a small slit isn't going to cut it. Then again, some light irregular painting around the perimeter of the glass can help get rid of those solid regular shapes.

[@sr.luisraytraceiii2422]

It's current year. The IR signature of a car will matter more than reflective glass?

[@benjurqunov]

But why does this action do nothing to affirm homosexual soecial rights within the insurgent community ? Since collusion was proven, Don’t expect Hillary or the deranged liberal du jour to lift a finger. They say they care, but really don’t.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

@@sr.luisraytraceiii2422 can a mirror disrupt an objects IR signature?

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@nobodyherepal3292 A mirror reflects it. So depending on what is reflecting it could make it stand out more or less.

[@joelbellJB]

This video put into words and explained clearly what everyone already knew, but never really understood as to why the Vietcong were so effective against the US, discipline.

[@giantgiant268]

"If they run they're VC. If they don't run, they're well disciplined VC. War's hell isn't it?" -Some door gunner

[@tevarinvagabond1192]

That's BS... normally trained US troops were and are far superior, but the draftees obviously weren't the best quality. Forcing people to go to a war where it didn't have much point isn't the best motivation at all. Plus, the US didn't lose...it CHOSE to leave Vietnam because there simply was no point in staying. Same as Afghanistan, there was no loss... victory literally was achieved in just a few weeks, but occupation is costly and not effective when you do it in a passive way like the US did. So, the US left... it's more of a matter of the civilians losing hope and willpower rather then the troops, and of course the politicians...if things hurt their bottom line then they'll pull out, and Vietnam was not profitable for anyone.

[@joelbellJB]

@@tevarinvagabond1192 at what point did I say the US lost? What would you call a war to which you cannot achieve your objectives? For both examples of Afghanistan and Vietnam. My comment is about what the VC did and why they were so effective.

[@tevarinvagabond1192]

@@joelbellJB I literally started off with talking about the quality, which is what you were talking about. The win or lose argument also tied into the lack of willpower of the civilians back home, which ties into the motivation of the troops as well...leading to YOUR argument. Are you so dense you can't handle refutations?

[@cam-w4j2u]

What about using lens stickers for the windshields? They're just large stickers with tiny laser cut holes to let you see through and don't reduce visibility too much

[@SilverShamrockNovelties]

I think you might need to be less concerned with the possible windshield glint and more concerned with the enormous thermal signature of the engine block.

[@cam-w4j2u]

@@SilverShamrockNovelties that's true, my thought was largely in response to him mentioning the shine from the windshield and solving the visible signature issue.

[@gigipeedee]

Of you could put some kind of hood over it. Blocked out from above and you don't lose any visibility

[@DEATH-flare]

good to see a new video from you, spookyboi.

[@danroffee4904]

The first step in passive defense is to remain undiscovered.

[@bob2233445]

yes and the second is dispersion, like disperse as far away from the war zone as possible

[@blackmagicprod7039]

Great video. Love these types of productions from you. A well-reasoned, very objective, and thoroughly researched perspective into a complicated topic. I appreciate the “further reading” section of your closing thoughts and the citations sprinkled throughout the video more than you could know!

[@RabbitxRabbit]

Your videos are always very well written and edited.

[@SilverBricks17]

And now my weekend is made. Another awesome video👍🏻

[@krfloll]

Great content as always

[@Tn_dfndr_guy]

Excellent period of instruction and sobering that it feels pertinent. Thanks yet again!

[@MA-ro5qi]

Absolutely, one of the best "documentary-type" briefings I have ever "attended". Although Army-Centric this should be MANDATORY viewing/study at the USAF Fighter School, and at Squadron-Level. Unfortunately, the "woke" clowns at the top are focused on everything but Warfare and Winning. We all can glean much from these very informative videos. Thanks again S2 for having the integrity, resourcefulness, and concern, for putting all this information in an understandable and interesting format. Too bad the Deep State has replaced common-sense with a sick PC agenda. Nice touch using "modern" conflicts to highlight the points understood by "Charlie". Stay Frostie and be of a mindset to indeed Fight in the Shade.

[@HypeBeast764]

I agree it’s glad to see a fellow communist call out wokeness as it does not address societal issues such as the material condition of working class people which can only get better under socialism once we abolish capitalism.

[@freedomloverusa3030]

@@HypeBeast764 that cocaine is really good.

[@HypeBeast764]

@@freedomloverusa3030 only true freedom is one which the workers own the places they work and the houses they live in not one where we live in now where the banks or corporations own our homes and where we work.

[@JC-dc7ez]

@@HypeBeast764 wouldn't owning your place of employment make you a capitalist, comrade?

[@cjclark2002]

@@HypeBeast764 assuming someone’s a communist like that, it’s ignorant man. Those “Charlie’s” OP references are just regular average Joes just like most of us by the way.

[@northernpartisan7370]

You're doing a great service. Love the videos

[@oldschooljack3479]

Thank you. Well done as always. We need more content teaching this type of doctrine.

[@_Norris]

The Achilles Heal of standard camo is thermal signature. Except for wide dispersion, what can help mitigate this threat?

[@SilverShamrockNovelties]

If Achilles could heal, that story might have ended differently. Sadly, his HEEL was a vulnerability that he could not HEAL from.

[@soaceba]

Mylar infused ghili

[@soaceba]

Umbrella with camo netting and mylar infused

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

Certain anti thermal tech, such as intermat and others.

[@africanelectron751]

A sprinkler system... Just an idea

[@jefflenihan456]

this channel is dope. keep up the great work guys.

[@Emily-ou6lq]

So, umm, if in war noone really wins, please explain why Smedley claimed that it is a racket. Thank you very much.

[@rotgut14]

That quote is obviously in reference to governments. The international bankers ALWAYS win.

[@spartan11payne]

@@rotgut14 I would say governments win too, people don't. But people matter infinitely more than governments and banks.

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

No one who actually fights it wins. The people funding it win.

[@hochigaming14yearsago90]

I'm just saying but smedley butler is a legend

[@rotgut14]

@@spartan11payne how did the German governments win in WWI or WWII? Japanese gov’t in WWII? Or any other unconditional losers in any war?

[@SCUBAdfq]

I lost it when you referred to a bubba russian pilot flinging rockets 🤣

[@5GWGuerillaFighter]

Hey! I think it would be a great idea to normalize the use of cameras hooked up to internal monitors. (Using cheap tablets on the inside with cheap thermals and other electronic cameras on the outside or some other sort of CCTV type set up.) That way you can see where you're going but still keep all windows completely covered, preferably with something that can easily be removed while still staying inside the vehicle, or perhaps even removable ballistic shielding. Additionally, traveling at a slow rate of speed while being covered with camouflage netting could work as well. There may also be ways to insulate the vehicle to reduce it's heat signature. Furthermore, active defense could include the use of laser clusters, a bunch of high powered lasers used in combination. Maybe even with a focusing lense in front of them to create a single beam. Love you guys keep on keeping on. Let's hope we don't have to use this stuff.

[@tevarinvagabond1192]

That's never going to be legal for road use, if the camera is busted or water or something obstructs it then you can't see at all, plus turning your car off would render you blind as well

[@mattfleming86]

This was an amazing video. Then again, they always are. Thank you Mr. Shadow.

[@kyledifrancesco8931]

Would you consider the American Revolution the first time a superpower got defeated by an insurgency?

[@FXIIBeaver]

Rome, Greece ect.

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

@@FXIIBeaver Rome was never defeated by an insurgency, unless you count their military being composed almost entirely of foreigners, who when they became the majority in the military said "We rule now". I don't call that an insurgency I call it Rome committing suicide.

[@FXIIBeaver]

@@huwhitecavebeast1972 the insurgency was the government.

[@Lusa_Iceheart]

@@huwhitecavebeast1972 Yeah Rome more or less committed cultural suicide and collapsed in on itself. Not an insurgency or coup, just a collapse of culture and economics. Turns out no one values a debased currency. Nothing modern about the "modern monetary theory" the Fed is using. History doesn't repeat but it sure does rhyme.

[@Rokaize]

@@huwhitecavebeast1972 Wait, what? Where have you studied Roman history? Because that isn’t at all what happened. Rome had, since it’s republican days, used foreigners in its military. This was even more so done in empire. A Gaulic man who joins the Roman legion and becomes a citizen isn’t a foreigner. He’s a Roman. In fact, Rome became a powerful city due to immigration from surrounding cities. Specifically persecuted people or other people exiled from their home cities. It became a melting pot right from the beginning. Roman writers discuss this. You’re way off the mark.

[@privateer177666]

I believe one of the first times that we, as 13 colonies defeated a ‘super power’ was around 1775 through 1780 if I’m not mistaken.

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

It happened in ancient times too.

[@privateer177666]

@@huwhitecavebeast1972 Those that don’t learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

[@yourfreedomisanillusion]

You ready to do it again?

[@privateer177666]

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God!

[@nobodyherepal3292]

@@yourfreedomisanillusion good luck with that bud.

[@cluek9780]

The VC placing thin bamboo stakes upward over a field is unfamiliar to me. What? How? Why?

[@Qew1601]

for paratrooper , even with parachute you still fall pretty hard

[@kekistanimememan170]

1:04 what insurgency has an airforce?

[@glenng.8254]

Got to love the sound of those teletype machines in the background.... Got to love Walter Cronkite. He was a great American.

[@stephancote4745]

Its my understanding the word is sitting as in "sight-ing" meaning choosing a location (a site) as opposed to a place to sit

[@jamesrice6096]

I was "attacked" by a Randy Quaid (stupid, misinformed, but probably not drunken crop duster) Killed or damaged every food making plant we have and most of the rest too. 10 years of work... Trees, flowers, everything He did this on the say-so of a neighbor who said " go ahead and hit that too" Don't think I'm at the air defense stage yet. Lol, but I loved the timing of your video coming out. "Fight...got no shade. Everything is brown and dead."

[@rotgut14]

HOLY SHIT! I can't imagine that loss! I hope you have some legal recourse!

[@yourfreedomisanillusion]

Holy crap! Are you serious?? I’m guessing you and the neighbor won’t be having any bbqs anytime soon. Damn.

[@willkenny5687]

Lawsuit?

[@jeffprice6421]

Would the US Colonies defeating Britain be an insurgency defeating a superpower?

[@AlbeitBasilisk]

no because thr french did

[@jeffprice6421]

@@AlbeitBasilisk Huh? The North Vietnamese certainly had ally participation. On land it was US soldiers. French Navy chased the British fleet which was a big help but Soviet Union supported North Vietnam and Russian pilots flew fighter interceptors for the NV.

[@AlbeitBasilisk]

@@jeffprice6421 remind me, when did the nva need soldiers from other nations to fight their battles

[@jeffprice6421]

@@AlbeitBasilisk The Russians flew their fighter interceptors and operated their more technical weapon systems.

[@tevarinvagabond1192]

@@AlbeitBasilisk um, Chinese troops literally poured into Vietnam to help them, lmao.

[@Vrilltrooper-of-sillymaxxia]

wait weren't the brits defeated in Afghanistan beforehand during the empire days?

[@AC_WILDCARD]

Wait Obi-wan.. This whole ope...

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

Yes. They call it the graveyard of empires for a reason.

[@aarondancy9921]

Another excellent production - thank you

[@jjrobiso]

I’d argue that the first time a superpower was defeated by an insurgency was the revolutionary war.

[@mikemines2931]

How about the Greeks and the Persian Empire.

[@napalmholocaust9093]

I see many scopes in the present conflict in which the flip-up caps are flipped 180°'s. Shouldn't they be only 90°'s? I know eye relief can be too close on older scopes, but isn't the front facing one essentially another mirror?

[@noreaster08]

Excellent as always.

[@Xrayblazer3595]

Great video keep up the great work I love it!

[@Energine1]

Very insightful thankyou S2.

[@Unit13FREMSLT]

Wow that intro brought back memories, Cronkite and others delivering the nightly body count reports during the evening new while we ate dinner.

[@possumpopper89]

Your list of reading resources at the end of the video was covered up by KZbin advertising other videos. Could you post the list in the video description or earlier in the video. Thanks!

[@spilledmilk9000]

I had anticipated discussing anti helicopter wires like the ones used in Mexico to protect drug fields from helicopters.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

Wait really? That’s a thing?

[@minhducnguyen9276]

​@@nobodyherepal3292wires tied to bundles of plastic bags, hang loosely on tree branches. If helicopters try to land near them they'll get blown up into the air and tangle onto the rotors. Enough of them will cause enough drag to prevent the helicopter from flying. In certain cases, they were tied to grenades to increase lethality.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

@@minhducnguyen9276 how does the Mexican Airforce get around it?

[@minhducnguyen9276]

@@nobodyherepal3292 They probably avoid landing zones near trees. It's harder for this kind of trap to work when laid on the ground,the wind blows them away, not upward when they are not hanging on tree branches. It's still a matter of probability, some of them might still fly towards the rotors even when they are laid on the ground, the wind is chaotic after all. They can also attach blades on the rotors so they'll chop up the wires, this might not work these days because stronger wires are available. Not to mention the traps can be spammed so much that even blades get overwhelmed considering how cheap nylon strings are. The main purpose of these traps is deterrent though because they are quite visible since it's quite obvious when you see bunches of crumpled paper and plastic bags hanging on trees so there's not much of a choice besides avoid flying near them. And these traps are not even new, they are used as far as the time of Vietnam war.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

@@nobodyherepal3292 It's less like a trap and more like an obstacle I'd say. Since you need a lot of them hanging on trees to make it work, they are quite visible, even with matching colors, paper and plastic bags don't look like leaves especially with that many bundles hanging. But it would limit the choice of landing zones for helicopters. Attack helicopters are rarely affected by these contraptions because they don't fly low near tree tops that often.

[@nanzistnt2573]

Would draping camo netting or veil over a vehicle window not be effective and safe for concealment? It does reduce visibility and isnt perfectly effective but it can work if you take some drawbacks.

[@jeanbaptistebrevelle1239]

Y’all don’t post the audio to Podbean anymore? I really miss that. It can be downloaded and listened to when you do t have signal.

[@peebreezy5015]

Another great video. Thank you

[@collinE83]

23:18 makes me sad they didn’t do something like this as they landed on the beaches of Normandy. Maybe they did, I don’t know. 🤷‍♂️

[@jamesz.1047]

As he says, smoke draws the eye. Drawing the attention of the defenders and notifying the enemy command exactly where your landing zones are may have been counter intuitive. Also remember the context of the fact that the 23rd Ghost Army (whose patch inspired this very channel's icon) had successfully deceived the enemy command into thinking the landing would be further east at Calais. Possible the allied decisions looked to make the most of this intel win.

[@W8RIT1]

@1:05, I thing I'd disagree with that statement that the Vietnam War was the first time a superpower had been defeated by an insurgency...not until we take a look back at historical fact.

[@hansblitz7770]

Those little slants sure could cover a lot of ground.

[@TheBishop12]

Another example of Passive Air Defense not mentioned in the video is the Vietnamese fighting extremely close to US soldiers to defend against air strikes as air support would be less likely to bomb targets if that meant US soldiers could be caught up as collateral damage.

[@76dg15]

I can’t wait for the next one

[@thenewyorkredneck4735]

Passive air defence 101. Blow up gas trucks

[@AC_WILDCARD]

lmfao this

[@thenewyorkredneck4735]

@@AC_WILDCARD subscribe for more wise ass remarks

[@millersmarauders6612]

Vietnam wasn’t the first time a super power was defeated by an insurgency

[@justsomeguyontheinternet5331]

The Revolutionary War comes to mind. or Armenius defeating Varus at Teutoberg Forest

[@Lusa_Iceheart]

Yeah it's a bizarre misconception that seems to assume warfare began with the Industrial Revolution. We get the term 'guerilla warfare' from the French partisans of WWII (and of course their own debacle in Vietnam) so the misconception sorta stems from "oh the French coined the term so they must have invented it". Which is... absurd. It'd be like saying the concept of 'Logistics' was invented in the 20th century, lol. The TERM might have been coined about then, but every army in history has relied on logistics. Every army in history has learned about ambushes, camouflage, concealment, ect to various degrees and to various levels of competence. What sets modern warfare apart is the consolidation and refinement of many historical practices. We didn't invent them recently, just tweaked and improved the ideas. Adam Smith is considered the "Father of economics" b/c he was the first to scientifically begin to study and analyze how economies function. Economies didn't get invented in the 18th century, just quantified for the first time.

[@mattsimshauser7541]

Vietnam was not the first time an insurgency defeated a super power far far from it a-symmetrical warfare may be a new term in modern warfare but I assure you it has been a winning tactic for millennia

[@CaptainSeamus]

I was thinking about all the colonial bush wars that were being fought before, during, and after it that were kicking out the various old powers... guess it depends on your definitions???

[@yourfreedomisanillusion]

It seems the new powers are the same as the old powers...

[@Rokaize]

Insurgencies don’t win without outside assistance.

[@pakers2128]

consider the American War for Independence. Same Same. Recall a quote from a British Officer "can not distinguish a Loyalist from a Revolutionary", shades of Vietnam.

[@TenaciousH44]

Is it possible to do another Ukraine update? I don't know what is going on over there anymore.

[@TacticalBaguette]

On the update video he said that they post them on Odysee now

[@TenaciousH44]

@@TacticalBaguette No new upload on Odysee either

[@hannibalwantsahuggrande3433]

The Russians are winning. You're welcome.

[@ironman8257]

Hey, what is best entrenching tool and how to effectively dig personal hideouts ?

[@freedom8383]

Shovel

[@napalmholocaust9093]

What was the last known year barrage balloons were used? Or are they still being used?

[@SgtZak_]

That assumes all military units would even engage citizens……which some would not.

[@FXIIBeaver]

Don’t be too sure about that.

[@SgtZak_]

@@FXIIBeaver I am having been in the US Army.

[@FXIIBeaver]

@@SgtZak_ not something I would bet my life on. People will surprise you when their checks get threatened.

[@hannibalwantsahuggrande3433]

@@FXIIBeaver this!

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

@@FXIIBeaver You don't get paid jack shit in the military unless you are high ranking NCO

[@mate2nice]

Vietnam was not the first time a major world power was defeated by an insurgency. The formerly enslaved Haitian rebels beat away the British, Spanish and French empires in the Haitian Revolution. 19th century

[@markadkins9290]

Outstanding!

[@minarchist1776]

"The Vietnam War was the first time a superpower had been defeated by an insurgency." Ahem. Ever hear of a little altercation that came to be referred to as the Revolutionary War between a bunch of colonies in America and Great Britain? Granted that air power wasn't much of a thing back then, but there were a whole host of political, logistical and even tactical considerations that in some respects were similar.

[@ChrisCoombes]

7:20 Siting not Sitting

[@colzaidikari]

What does it take to end a war? Well, if both sides wish for peace and set aside their hatred… No. Warfare is nothing but a means of negotiation between states. Wars break out even when there is no hatred. Territory, resources, or interests that you are determined to own. Ideology, religion, pride. Wars are fought over those objectives all the time. Meaning that when those objectives are met, the war will end. That, or the war will end when the human cost outweighs the gains. Anger and hatred are only tools to tilt a war in your favor. I’m not interested in those manipulations. - Inaho Kaizuka

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

Well not being interested in the psychology of it is stupid.

[@mr.matthews67]

Absolute gold!

[@Rokaize]

The “rocket slinging” is doctrinal. Read the US army report on “opfor tactics”. Russians use helicopters as the primary CAS asset. They do running, hover, or lofting attacks as you described. They have been doing it since Afghanistan. They are trained to do it and their helicopters are set up for it.

[@user-em1wu3el7m]

Still have a family member left who served in Vietnam. I know he did demolition stuff behind enemy lines blowing up bridges and high priority stuff he never talks about it outside of the occasional comment and/or sharing random things he learned during his deployment. I know he told me they spent a lot of time going through hell having to deal with just the nature of how it was fought and craziness that came with the guerilla warfare.

[@dtl5623]

📒 *Passive Air Defence - PAD* 📒 Decide if you will engage an attacking aircraft or not. Select strict criteria(1) for engagement, disseminate this to your group/network & adhere to it strictly. Civilians have limited options when it comes to defending themselves from hostile, & armed, planes & helicopters. However lessons can still be learned & applied from the Vietnam 🇻🇳 war to a civilian context. *Passive vs Active Air Defense* The latter involves engaging hostile aircraft (kinetic options). The former involves doing things that passively protect yourself from air-based attacks. PAD protects you from attack without you having to do too much at all, albeit you should still prepare for aircraft engagement *IF* your plans change. Observation is extremely important. Don't engage when in terrain that isn't "escape friendly" or near civilian areas. *Approaches to PAD* 1. Attack avoidance Camouflage & concealment is key! • No visible target = far less chance of attack. • If concealed in a steep valley or cave = less vectors on offer for enemy fire. 1.1 *Sitting* Selecting the best spot for an air defence should be based on finding terrain favourable to defensive operations e.g. enemy is easily seen when approaching & there are no obstacles for a ground escape. 1.2 *Discipline* • not leaving tracks. • personal camouflage strictly adhered to. 1.3 *Construction* • Constrcuting cover & concealment using natural materials to impede overhead observation e.g. tunnels, bunkers. • build decoys in non-essential & less frequented areas. 2. *Damage Mitigation* (dispersion) • spread out your forces so a single munitions can't cause severe & multiple fatalities. • civilians & inexperienced soldiers, if under fire, struggle to maintain dispersion disciple. *Special Considerations for Convoys* • convoys are a juicy 🎯 for air attack. • convoys draw attention as they cast a shadow, create dust, create shine hazards (windows) etc. • schedule movement during the night-time or during precipition / cloud cover. • avoid "IED alleys". • use smoke to obscure / confuse the precise position of your vehicle (after detection). You can use also use this as a decoy before the movement of a planned convoy. • if ambushed via land push on through. • if attacked via air it is best to seek cover (e.g. wooded treeline). (1) You may decide to NOT engage fixed-winged aircraft yet target helicopters in identified landing zones.

[@EvoS76]

I had a good friend tell me something after he got back from fighting in Afghanistan. He was pretty pissed of at the US and God for the things he saw there. He helped to start me down the rabbit hole. He asked me “how can you be an insurgent in your own country” aren’t they just people fighting to protecting their home, family, and lives? We were the insurgents. We were the aggressors and it was wrong as the military industrial complex normally is. Someday they will be talking about us as though we are insurgents. Hell, they already do.

[@Centermass762]

Your friend doesn't know the definition of the word "insurgent."

[@phil2082]

Most people fighting in the middle east were imported fighters from other countries, so that doesn't work

[@rm-gh1co]

I've heard that our military was used to guard the Afghanistan poppie fields for the production of drugs. illegal, not pharmaceutica. How could this happen by our USA military and WHO is running this ship? I also became acutely aware of the opinions around the world of American Imperialism when they were able to post on KZbin citing facts. By well educated, civilized human beings.

[@Centermass762]

@@rm-gh1co income was a major driving force in local tribes working with the Taliban. The main income for some of those local tribes was from their poppy crop. The Taliban would cut down or burn their poppy fields and force them to work with the Taliban to attack US troops in the area. It wasn't so much "protecting the poppy fields" as it was patrolling the area to keep the Taliban from taking over areas and wrecking people's only source of income, thus forcing them to join the fight. It was a short-term solution that was better than the alternative at that particular time.

[@boxelderinitiative3897]

@@Centermass762 this sounds like a made up story based on other stories amd youtube videos they mashed together. very cliche.

[@dunham2900]

My grandfather died last January from agent orange. He was in both Korea and Vietnam.

[@Protocol_17]

Had two older cousins serve in Vietnam. Both died unusually early. One was likely affected by Agent Orange. Both were honorable men.

[@joshuamitcham1519]

Sorry about your papa Blayne

[@Covert_Arrangements]

Sorry for your loss. I’ll keep you in my prayers. 🙏🏻

[@vivianp5962]

🙏

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

It is insane that people still trust the government.

[@benwilson5893]

Thank you. Can you do another like this with more focus on more modern conflicts like Afghanistan or Ukraine?

[@cryptographrix]

QQ - do you get paid extra now that KZbin is putting up to 21-25 non-skippable commercials over your videos? Surprised I’ve not seen this mentioned much, but it looks like modern warfare now includes over-commercials in order to test peoples’ attention spans.

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

Wow that's crazy, I get zero ads. But I also have adblock. There is no way I would watch anything with that many ads.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

1:04 American Revolutionaries , the 1800’s Afghan fighters, and the Boars- “hold our beers”…..

[@diehard2705]

*Boers

[@danielrosic2960]

Great video - but I wonder about the statement that Vietnam was the first time a superpower had been defeated by an insurgency. I think about the British Empire in Afghanistan, in the 1800s. I'm not buff on that subject though

[@welderbear6757]

Hold up, wouldn’t the first superpower to be defeated by an insurgence be the British by us?

[@taraswertelecki3786]

I assume these tactics also mitigate the likelihood of attacks by cruise or ballistic missiles as well. If they can't see you, they can't target you with them. However, the ongoing war in Ukraine shows that one or two guys in a foxhole or trench ARE easy targets for killer drones. Ukraine is busy picking them off with drones right now. The Vietcong would have been decimated if the U.S. had the likes of Reaper or Bayraktar drones that can loiter for long periods of time while looking for any sign of movement.

[@FXIIBeaver]

Oh like the taliban had?

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

I don't think Ukraine is doing as well as you think it is. They are using mostly civilian drones anyway, and attaching small explosive devices on them and dropping them on enemy. Those things don't have a long loitering time, and Ukraine doesn't have any reaper drones. You statement also assumes lack of anti drone tech (which is available to civilians btw) and drones getting shot down (by firearms or MANPADS).

[@taraswertelecki3786]

@@huwhitecavebeast1972 Clearly Russia isn't either, because despite their shooting Ukrainian drones down daily, Ukraine keeps killing enemy troops with drones.

[@TankJockey38]

I didn't know military side by sides were made by dodge

[@JoeWayne84]

A good compact shovel should be main part of everyone’s kit

[@robertjackson1407]

Thank you 😊

[@africanelectron751]

Dispersion is indeed the key. Could you cover how to dig a fox hole sr building a bunker.

[@grantbovee]

thank you

[@jefffefferson8339]

It's called 'siting" not "sitting". You have to choose your site carefully.

[@11ccom]

Good stuff.

[@Damitsall]

As always, FIGHT IN THE SHADE.

[@Sadaygamer2076]

25:15 it just airborne mlrs

[@NoSaysJo]

These documents truly show how badly the USA got beaten in Vietnam.

[@CaptainSeamus]

The USA got beat in Vietnam in DC and Paris, not in the field. USA won nearly every battle it fought, but the civilian government lost it. THAT is our greatest advantage. Don't worry about the military - worry about the guys holding their leashes.

[@rodiculous9464]

I was so confused by all that footage of russians launching their rockets in the air. I thought they were intentionally dumping them so they don't get sent into hot zones

[@Jagdtyger2A]

Interesting, another example why VC soon earned the moniker of "Mr Victor Charley

[@franciscorico9605]

..Thanks a million--!!!!

[@captainplexiglass6475]

So peak "they're in the trees" explained

[@martinbowman1993]

Do the Russians use air Calvary as a concept of operations like America does or do they do something else?

[@tylerharris6263]

Friendly reminder to support your local militia or start one ✊

[@Rokaize]

Your local militia is capable of defeating the US military. That’s realistic.

[@dellawrence4323]

I don't think "stalemate" is an adequate description of the biggest ass whooping in history given by small men without shoes armed with Mosin Nagant bolt actions and bamboo sticks dipped in shiite to the richest, most heavily armed bully on the planet. Stalemate is the wrong word.

[@64maxpower]

The people that were in power that made this war happen hopefully all get a special room in hell. It's disgusting what these politicians did to innocent Americans and innocent Vietnamese

[@kickapoogianboi6971]

Nice

[@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484]

Thanks