The North Vietnamese Air Force Sets a Trap for the USAF

The North Vietnamese Air Force Sets a Trap for the USAF - 23rd August 1967

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Can you make a video on World War 1

@derrickstorm6976 Ай бұрын

@@Randomdude112 which part lol

@Randomdude112 Ай бұрын

@@derrickstorm6976 the aerial war, bloody April, etc

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@777Outrigger Ай бұрын

You should do Operation Tea Ball. It's what dramatically altered the kill ratio for the last 5 months of the Vietnam air war.. It was a command post that gathered information in real time from all surveillance and intelligence sources on the location of Migs. Starting in Aug 1972, USAF pilots got a briefing on UHF radioes before ingressing into North Vietnam on the location of all Migs. The US kill ratio for Migcap F-4s rose to 13-1!!! ... It wasn't the gun or improved dogfight training that increased the kill ratio, but rather a massive increase in Situational Awareness that Tea Ball afforded USAF pilots.

@easy_eight2810 Ай бұрын

I often show your videos to my elderly Vietnamese relatives living in Hanoi. They are very open minded and appreciate the unbiased work your team has provided to something they have never been able to visually comprehend. My father's favorite video of yours is the Operation Linebacker 2 video, since he was a child who experienced it back in '72!

@Nightdiver20 Ай бұрын

How do the Vietnamese look back on the war?

@tranxuanminh4623 Ай бұрын

@@Nightdiver20 Forgive but not forget. Our ancestors fought for more than 1000+ years to keep the land of Vietnam, so now we reflect from various wars from the past and trying our best from involving in any conflicts

@Nightdiver20 Ай бұрын

@@tranxuanminh4623 hahaha, I totally get that. I was just wondering if they looked back on it as a great victory, a tragic loss of life, both? Good to know, though. I'd love to visit one day

@NV555_82nd Ай бұрын

Thumbs down 👎😊

@Hagmire2 Ай бұрын

@@Nightdiver20 Many from the south moved to the US and became model citizens, the ones who remained suffered economic hardship for years as well as a war with China, today they're more stable, it's a shame it happened in the first place as the Vietnamese would make great allies to the US, personally I blame the French but it is what it is.

@DaoBao13 Ай бұрын

i had a chance to meet Col Nguyễn Nhật Chiêu in 2013, 2 years before his death in 2015. A humble man with a great sense of humor, always praised USAF pilots as "experienced and tough bastards in the sky"

@jeffblacky Ай бұрын

I met Van Bay a few years before he died Asked him as well about American pilots Talent and Outrageous Courage

@aarongoleman Ай бұрын

sucks he lived through the war

@Spade_1917 Ай бұрын

@aarongoleman You lost, fucking Yankee, get over it.

@coconut7490 Ай бұрын

@@aarongoleman well what can you do? you don't get to choose which period you get born in sadly. At least he lived long enough to see the peace, not many people who fought can see what happen after.

@Archer89201 Ай бұрын

Those Vietnamese pilots had balls of lead, going against the most powerful airforce in the world against overwhelming numbers and superior planes/weapons

@PeacePetal Ай бұрын

It's amazing how much the Vietnamese accomplished with limited resources. It takes guts to fly against a massive formation of USAF aircraft like that. There aren't a lot of jet aces in history. The Vietnamese pilots were truly amongst the best ever.

@mikedesanta4612 Ай бұрын

The experienced ones. The rookies had a baptism of fire.

@abas656thegodemperor9 Ай бұрын

@mikedesanta4612 I mean,given who they're up against,it's no wonder, the US has enough funds to train its pilots thousands of times over,the US doesn't HAVE rookie pilots.

@tr1bes Ай бұрын

They were fighting the best of the best soldiers in the world. So they have to fight with their best efforts. They learn from experience with the Chinese, Mongolian, Japanese, French and USA.

@pakjai5532 Ай бұрын

This is the danger of underestimating your opposition. The West are guilty of this because they are spoiled by their technological success, therefore too privileged. This creates the illusion that a defeat seem impossible.

@markgarrett3647 Ай бұрын

Limited? Your kidding right?

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@DK33O Ай бұрын

The Vietnam War is always portrayed in pop culture as this low tech affair with US GIs trudging through rice fields fighting VC guerrillas in straw hats. But there was this other side to the war with high-intensity combat between organized conventional militaries. Aside from Herzog’s excellent Rescue Dawn (2006), I don’t think any major films have portrayed the air war over Vietnam, and even that one was only about the US air to ground operations early on.

@s.a928 Ай бұрын

Well to be fair to pop culture most land engagements were in the south with the VC guerillas so they aren’t entirely wrong if you think about it.

@MyH3ntaiGirl Ай бұрын

@@s.a928Most of the conventional battle is between the NVA and the RVNA

@noneofyourbusiness9489 Ай бұрын

@@s.a928 Many were actually in the south against the regular PAVN military. Especially after the Tet Offensive, the Viet Cong were largely destroyed as a military force.

@oldrabbit8290 Ай бұрын

not just the air war.. the PAVN in Central Vietnam and Laos had a fair amount of tanks and artilleries, as well as a sophisticated logistics network hidden in the jungle, which came as a nasty surprise for the South Vietnamese force during the Lam Son 719 Campaign. though tbf, the North Vietnamese government themselves loved the image of the "farmer-soldier", as it was powerful propaganda for the "People's War". In fact, even for the air war, the stories of famer-militants armed with rifles/light machine guns shot down US aircraft during their divebomb were celebrated and even made into songs in Vietnam.

@DK33O Ай бұрын

@@s.a928 It’s not that the portrayal is wrong, but rather that it’s somewhat incomplete.

@wolfroze9703 Ай бұрын

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@Paleorunner2 Ай бұрын

I had to call my grandpa right after watching this. He had 170+ mission on EC-121s over there, over 5 tours. I wanted to see if he could have been flying the 121 in this video. He had rotated back to the US in July of 67 so he missed it by a few weeks. Having said that, the picture you used is of Tripple Nickle. The 121 at Wright-Pat. We have family phones of my grandpa with that plane down in Panama at some point.

@NareshSinghOctagon Ай бұрын

It's always great stuff to scroll down a historical video and find relatives of those connected in one way or another,and its second only to the actual people who were there themselves talking about their experiences,regardless of what was being done by said involved person.

@DuyDatic Ай бұрын

I like how the comments under this video are from grandchildren or friends of both the Vietnamese and American pilots who were involved in these events. Imagine how wholesome it could be if we can actually create a community that can bring these former enemies together as old folks who can just talk and share their perspectives. They don't have much time left anyway.

@abz123zya Ай бұрын

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@DustyOfferson Ай бұрын

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@minsapint8007 Ай бұрын

Very interesting. I had never heard of this battle. Well done to the Vietnamese defending their country. Thanks for the video.

@AAAAAA-tj1nq Ай бұрын

@minsapint defending against the American imperialist aggressor

@phukuhu7310 Ай бұрын

@@AAAAAA-tj1nq Ah, it's the communists scoundrels that invaded South Vietnam. Your telling is nonsense.

@markgarrett3647 Ай бұрын

Vietnamese? Which one?

@economiccrisis9267 Ай бұрын

@@AAAAAA-tj1nqand now they're partners with the imperialist oppressor 😂

@AAAAAA-tj1nq 29 күн бұрын

@@economiccrisis9267 partner in what? Military? It is the red veitnamese who fought against both French and American illegal occupiers

@keithmenzer6454 Ай бұрын

Love it. Great coverage and production values

@robbabcock_ Ай бұрын

Great video! It seems the Vietnamese were pretty bright and resourceful to pull off such a victory against a much better trained and equipped foe.

@markgarrett3647 Ай бұрын

Vietnamese? Which Vietnamese?

@economiccrisis9267 Ай бұрын

You are aware the PAVN was highly equipped and trained right?

@PenskePC17 28 күн бұрын

They lost essentially every battle and had 1-40 k ratio. The North did very little that resembled winning and were only saved by political squabbling and hippies.

@bhl9532 26 күн бұрын

@@PenskePC17Americans somehow always forgot to count the losses of South Vietnamese (which did majority of the fighting), Koreans, Australians and your other allies. USA did not fight any war alone. K:D is closer than you think, for a force with so much technological superiority.

@PenskePC17 25 күн бұрын

@bhl9532 "the US doesn't fight any war alone" is probably the biggest cope going today when it comes to this topic. The amount of personal us allies typically contributes is entirely negligible and would only make sense as an argument if the contributing numbers wasn't 10x by the extra troops the US had available to them. You're acting like the US couldn't actively fight 3 other wars while Korea and Vietnam were going on... and no, the north got straight up smoked militarily considering the defensive position more than made up for any technological advantages or size difference. Also the battles the South lost? Should we also count the battles China lost to Japan in ww2? Get out of here with that nonsense. 🤣

@jamesnigelkunjuro12 Ай бұрын

I can't imagine how difficult life must have been for the Vietnamese pilots considering the massive disparity they had to face in terms of equipment. The fact that they did their duty and still managed to be a huge threat to their opponents is a testament to their bravery and skill.

@xiphoid2011 Ай бұрын

Coming from china, I know the power of indoctrination and propaganda. I grew up only learning how heroic chinese soldiers took out American tanks using satchel charges,and how American imperialists cowardly ran away. It's not until I got the good fortune to study in the US did I learn that the chinese army in Korea suffered 8 to 10x the casualties. It made a lot of sense when you are trying to swarm tanks using soldiers with satchel charges, but we didn't think of it because we were not taught to think independently.

@tophatvn8278 Ай бұрын

@@xiphoid2011glad that you were taught common sense in the west chief

@daniels0376 Ай бұрын

@@xiphoid2011Well then what you were taught is not false is it? The Chinese Army in Korea figuratively fought with sticks and stones against knights covered head to toe in steel plating. So yes of course more of them died. Same with the Vietnamese but they won. But now the Chinese Army has everything the Americans have, how do you think this will end up if the two meet again?

@JojoJoget Ай бұрын

@@xiphoid2011 did you not consider the possibility the westerners are also lying about the numbers?

@NOXXism Ай бұрын

@@daniels0376 Do they? Have you missed the recent corruption scandal? China is looking more and more like a paper tiger nowadays. I thin

@iNcog_AoE Ай бұрын

As always, what a very well made documentary on this operation. Adding the context is awesome.

@anysnail6390 Ай бұрын

I never knew there was any air force action above Vietnam that didn’t involve hueys playing fortunate son until I started watching this channel.

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@realSonNguyen 21 күн бұрын

FYI: The first North Vietnamese air force unit was established in February 1964, just three and a half years before this event.

@casegriffin2205 Ай бұрын

Loving this series, my grandfather was heavily involved in these missions! At the time he was an F-105 pilot, Captain Chester Griffin

@PenskePC17 28 күн бұрын

@@casegriffin2205 your grandfather is an American hero. The air was an extremely dangerous place to be in Vietnam.

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@ww3032 Ай бұрын

Appreciate more videos of traditional “OPFORs”. It gives an interesting perspective.

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@peterslaby9782 Ай бұрын

Thanks for all the work you put into these.

@thekinginyellow1744 Ай бұрын

Chieu, on the way out: "Because I was... Inverted!"

@TheOperationsRoom Ай бұрын

Coughbullshicough

@Beaker3888 Ай бұрын

My mind went there too! Maybe Top Gun is a documentary after all!

@RH_Wildcamping Ай бұрын

Another great vid. Clear and concise descriptions as always.

@777Outrigger Ай бұрын

@nickmitsialis Ай бұрын

Yes, SA is important, especially since the USAF brass 'de-emphasized' air to air combat in between Rolling Thunder and Linebacker because 'it was too dangerous' to learn how to push a plane to it's limits (nevermind silly stuff like dodging SAMs or pulling lotsa Gs to get on the tail of a bandit). Combine that with the F4's rather crappy radio AND the very cluttered airwaves with hundreds of aircraft all over Southeast Asia all using the same channel to communicate, along with the 'promoting of pilots out of transport and tanker aircraft into the cockpits of F4s headed for the deadliest piece of airspace in the world---sounds like a recipe for trouble.FORTUNATELY, later in the war, the 'higher ups' allowed experienced pilots (and in some cases, experienced squadrons) back into theater as well as resolving the SA issue. Ed Rasimus called it 'pilots flying fighters vs fighter pilots'.

@777Outrigger Ай бұрын

@@nickmitsialis SA is not important, it's everything. And Tea Ball had it's own frequency.

@nickmitsialis Ай бұрын

@@777Outrigger yes; everything go 'decluttered' and instead of all the agencies guarding their turf, they decide to cooperate and share info in real time. Somebody somewhere decided to take steps to (thank you R Lee) 'unf/k things'. Most of what I know about the NVN airwar is from Marshall Michel's book 'clashes' as well as his 'Eleven Days of Christmas'.

@sqd4944 Ай бұрын

that's full of western propaganda crap. the total of Migs North Viet Nam ever received from the USSR was never more than 200 jets, where do you get all the 13-1 kill ratio while North Viet Nam produced 8 fighter aces vs 1 for the American air force who has been training for life.

@nguyenlegiathinh0214 Ай бұрын

Source?

@indridcold1689 Ай бұрын

Loving the Vietnam videos. Keep them coming!

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Saw the notification. Did not even hesitate to click like

@MrOmega52 Ай бұрын

Great video. Robin Oldes was a great foghter pilot. His book is one of the best books I've ever read.

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Engagement for the algo. Love this channel.

@tranxuanminh4623 Ай бұрын

FYI, Gia Lam airbase should be pronounced as "Za Lam", not "Gear Lam" since in Vietnamese, when G next to I, them together make the sound Z

@TheOperationsRoom Ай бұрын

Interesting

@tunners 27 күн бұрын

They make a Y sound in the Southern accent

@GLADICEK2 18 күн бұрын

Can confirm, Vo Nguyen Giap is the best known example of this specific pronunciation. Anyways, does that also mean that the Russian Z soldier is the modern GI? 😂

@sullid413 Ай бұрын

Great work as per usual. Glad you picked out an engagement here that provides additional context to earlier work.

@speckmarine6557 Ай бұрын

Remember when the operations room used to make videos about ground warfare

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Love this channel

@andrewmontgomery5621 Ай бұрын

To qoute the famous line by Admiral Ackbar in Return of the Jedi:"It's a trap!!!"

@NorthForkFisherman Ай бұрын

Plenty of those in Thailand too.

@cedarbay3994 11 күн бұрын

You were showing B-52 footage from SOUTH Vietnam. The US didn’t deploy B-52s in the North until late 1972.

@paganarh Ай бұрын

Would love to see proper movie about Olds, that man was a legend.

@RogerRamjet156 Ай бұрын

Thanks for another piece of history most of us don't know about! I was 7 in 1967 eating Honeycomb cereal and watching Saturday morning cartoons, listening to The Beatles 45's and seeing the headlines in the Washington Post but oblivious to the big picture. Bravo Zulu!

@tranluong9906 18 күн бұрын

now, we discuss here and the world is still war

@TestNewphone-f6n Ай бұрын

one day I'll be able to watch your entire channel without being bored. one day , i'll understand the army movement on the maps thing. maybe when im at that dad phase. but one day

@MM22966 Ай бұрын

The ending part: "...permission was given to finally attack..." the airfield the enemy had been launching fighters from for who knows how long WHILE YOUR OWN PLANES WERE BEING SHOT AT!

@cedarbay3994 11 күн бұрын

It’s absurd that it took until almost 1973 for Nixon to finally release B-52s to attack NV. We pussy-footed for seven years with the casualties to prove it. And once the NV saw what the B-52s could do, they came to the negotiating table. There is a common misconception that we hammered the North for years and years but the political leadership was more interested in sending messages than winning.

@emeliealegonero4043 25 күн бұрын

Never heard a story about the vietnamese air force

@alexcount5130 Ай бұрын

These are very good history documentary video

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Excellent work. Some of the best on KZbin!

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Been watching for a long time but I have to say your voice is amazing and so calming. I'd love to see audio books from you or something similar.

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The level of details and animation is incredible. Although I would like clearer colors of the planes. I understand it may be for historical accuracy, but sometimes visibility may be more important.

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spectacular work as always

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@alejandrocasalegno1657 Ай бұрын

The Mig-21 bort numbers were Van Coc "4227" and Nat Chieu "4228"......

@opesam Ай бұрын

Great quality work as always!

@sperkins7587 Ай бұрын

Can y'all do a video on the Battle of Jutland. Would love to see you're animation of the battle. The Battle of Jutland has a lot of time-stamped from each ship in battle. I think it would for an awesome video.

@goodshipkaraboudjan Ай бұрын

When Thunder Rolled is a great book written first hand by a Thud pilot who did Wild Weasel work. His follow up Palace Cobra highlights more examples of "the left hand not talking to the right hand" that they had to deal with on these ops.

@desertodavid Ай бұрын

Wow. That puts a new Twist on the term "Friendly Fire". 😮

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@SebastianSebastian-j7f Ай бұрын

wonderful thank you for another incredibly detailed history display.

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@elzorro7of9 Ай бұрын

In total, the United States military lost in Vietnam almost 10,000 aircraft, helicopters and UAVs (3,744 planes, 5,607 helicopters and about 1,000 UAVs.).

@chithiennguyen1371 10 күн бұрын

Don't forget South Vietnam lost over 2,000 American aircraft that was given to it by the US. That made it 12,000.

@gus6526 Ай бұрын

It would be very interesting to see you cover the Tongo Tongo ambush!

@CharlieGeorge_ Ай бұрын

I enjoyed this documentary

@Yoyomo124 Ай бұрын

Quality upload as always

@EnglishTeacher.1.1.1.1 Ай бұрын

The planes need more contrast, is difficult to see them with the map behind

@AdmiralJT Ай бұрын

This is the content I'm here for, history, not last weeks support of death...

@russeljohn3471 Ай бұрын

An interesting and informative video. Thanks for your hard work it's much appreciated.

@PattMcCrotch Ай бұрын

3:22 That’s my uncle on the left with Olds. His name was William “Bill” Kirk and he splashed two MIG-21s during his tour in country. Kirk retired a 4 star general. I have his helmet he wore during his time there. 13:47 Bill with Olds again sharing a laugh after a successful mission. I believe it was the BOLO mission this video is from. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_L._Kirk

@christophernovick6675 Ай бұрын

I love this channel. Keep up the outstanding work

@tim192837645 Ай бұрын

Crazy how tenacious the north Vietnamese really were

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Always love how you cover all sides

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Wow, I remember learning about this dude from the History channel - speaking of, I wish “Dogfights” was available in high quality online somewhere…

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Amazing quality, as always !

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Very good video as always.

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@Occasion77 Ай бұрын

Would love to see some videos on the F-111 operations during Vietnam as well!

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Great video once again. I love the content about Vietnam war

@PhantomCatGame Ай бұрын

great video as always!!!

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@@Xiodot I understand, I have patreon as well. Comment over there. Didn't say so. Let them answer for that. I just like these comments that predetermine a video before they ever watch it.

@PhantomCatGame Ай бұрын

what lol I watched it and towards the end I I said that, I love each video they release. what's wrong with that?

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@@PhantomCatGame nothing outside the fact you didn't watch all of it before saying it was great That's all. Normally you watch all of it and then comment on its content or quality.