S5 EP5 | NAVIGATING THE CREATIVE INDUSTRY IN KENYA ft Pascal Tokodi & Lenana Kariba

[@ndegwa6499]

When I grow up I want to be a good listener like Eli Mwenda.... 👏👏

[@bettynthembwa760]

Me too..

[@preciouskemmy435]

Facts

[@msg3211]

Tokodi... I remember my sister coming home after working as an ajudicator during drama fest... And she told me about this promising, young high-school guy who acted very well... After years we see Tokodi on t.v. And she was like... This is him.. This is the student I told you about.... She is happy to see that he is growing in his career.

[@annkariuki1306]

It's great to see authenticity in men .This channel is underrated hoping it will have an impact to our generation .

[@kariukimolly8172]

Well said👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@drummerboyarnold3174]

yes..

[@terryannenkatha9942]

first of all amazing video....secondly its so beautiful how pascal and lenana are talking about their baby girls its sooo BEAUTIFUL I TELL YOU!!!! fr when oscar said hes actually starting to believe that theres hope for us singles to have beautiful and supportive relationships i felt that in my soul....Im waiting on God to get that....Love you guys and keep doing what you do we love to see it.

[@terryannenkatha9942]

the bromancee between lenana and pascal at 35:40.....shucksss!!!

[@thegodlyprincess_kenya]

Lol! I KNOW RIGHT!!

[@mercylinemasibo7404]

Love how when the experts in the industry started talking-Eli and Oscar you became viewers in your own talk show; listening and learning from them.

[@kattyjoules8101]

Wow! These guys do the most. Kenyan actors should be celebrated.

[@Olly_28]

I just love how Pascal says 'I needed stability in my life and she gave me that' like i mean that is so sweet😭😭💓💓💓 people like him are the ones who make me believe that love still exist and it can really work out......Dear future husband,I am patiently waiting and I'll never stop praying for you😭😭🙏🙏🙏 I hope I find a love so real and genuine some day,I just want to build a home with somebarry's son....from my mouth to God's ears😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏. AMEN.

[@alexxandermwai3171]

Tokodi's impression of Eli is award winning😆😆😆

[@terryivy9507]

Wooow finally 🎉🎉🎉it's how lenana kariba does with his eyes for me❤️

[@anneodida]

The "you are very handsome Lenana" 😂🤣🤣

[@kariukimolly8172]

My only wish is to have every man watch this channel.....this is an informative channel for both men n women...personally, I hv gotten to understand men from a different light...

[@fridahgitonga822]

The content off the chain and the video quality is insanely good!!!!

[@dinahmumbi3003]

Love the show everday. Talent, hardwork, consistency, perseverance. Love the encouragement.

[@HardlyTalk]

Talk of value, laughter and love served as a whole meal❤️❤️❤️❤️. Since day 1.....keep at it

[@annemercy6155]

Gosh we have the same name, Ann Mercy😊. This is the first time I've seen some one sharing the same name with me 💕

[@annalisekathomi2336]

Amazing to see guys reclaiming their spot in society with such candid engaging conversations. Love the movement honestly

[@wanguigrace2957]

This was fun!! Just fine men holding mature conversations ughhh! 😍😍

[@cielobreezeofficial7535]

Eli's accent though 😉😉😍👋

[@lisperkemunto9267]

Your intro gives me so much life!!.. Omg

[@jecintamuiruri6616]

I know I'm 5days late but I really enjoyed the video. I'm not interested in joining the creative industry but some of the wisdom they've shared will be useful in my career.

[@elizabethmwaura7644]

Haha they look they were bread very well. That's a good one

[@michellenambiro4620]

I think this channel is really underrated... like it's a very thought through channel with very sound conversations

[@davidsikobe]

Enjoyed this episode. The production value has gone up 100 percent!!! Good sound and image! great job guys!

[@qamarmuktar4287]

My favourite actors..Be blessed

[@_rose.mutua_]

Always a good time over here.

[@daughternotforsaken7499]

My first time to hear this and I love it Karibu nitafute note book but I have noted things

[@kendijohns]

This was more a show than a podcast ♥️♥️♥️ Enjoyed it 👌 The Video quality is crazy👏

[@melodymanuelah3472]

I thank God for you guys and what you're doing...You've brought back the hope that was lost when we think of "thee modern" man... It's in the all round conversations,the energy,the love,laughter, lessons...just... the whole vibe,God bless you guys 🙏...

[@hellenmbogo2202]

Lovely interview. Great insights. Discipline is key. Tokodi you play too much haha. Eli and Oscar, thank you.

[@habsmacantoy5204]

Powerful stuff, informative. Keep up!

[@emmanuelnoi4288]

these guys are really doing a nice job-I dont know if you know how impactful your videos are-all of them keep up the dream the longer you stick around the longer you make us believe in the power of stamina/consistency

[@daughternotforsaken7499]

Thanx Lenana & Tokodi for sharing this for young people

[@TheEmilyWanja]

Awesome...I know it men's talk but I had to check in ... Great work icons👏👏👏 #Ona Selina

[@peterkikonyo6479]

CHANGING TIMES was different levels,best ever

[@kelvinmagoma6243]

The intro manzee 👍,the content pia ...Nice job 😊

[@ManTalkKe]

Thank you!

[@alphafilms2813]

Wait, had to pause to comment on the Intro. Good stuff!!!

[@concyoginga6855]

As always I love being here. This was 👍

[@CynthiaCTaragon]

Pascal Tokodi had a Troy Bolton moment, " High school musical"

[@esthermumo6687]

Am loving it here.

[@toojulie1359]

This is soo amazing! Loved every bit of it!

[@mawiracharlton6798]

The interview,line up the guests I mean the whole thing was just toptier. I know the channel could be a bit different from what Im about to request but kindly could you consider inviting Sarah hassan along on the next episode of mantalk.

[@jimbrian9825]

We have been waiting 😅and its here already

[@cindyredz2586]

I love this channel for the quality of everything from conversation to people. Absolutely love it ❤️

[@lucyfavoured8261]

Wow, great episode. Entertaining and yet educative. Kuddos guys.

[@stephenpinchez1184]

fantastic discourse

[@hildamulwa4692]

You guys need to bring Kate Actress here. She's a ball of energy ❤️

[@cuttingedgeConsistentTraders]

Men will love and appreciate women who support their dreams, not some illiterates thinning marriage is a ring to prove the nonsensical

[@user-jn4on7ds3s]

This is a really good show ❤😊

[@lettice7015]

Keep it up guys,this show is gonna go a long way in shaping especially our young men.God bless you all the way.

[@chaupole]

Really loved this!

[@furahathestar]

This is great 👏👏👏

[@faithwambui9283]

LOOOVE IT!!!

[@manassehknyagah]

Love it! Great conversation 🙌🏾

[@_Sharon_J]

"I needed stability, and she gave me that" -Tokodi, 2021/

[@cielobreezeofficial7535]

Lenana brought me here 😍😍😍👌

[@sylvia2956]

Been waiting!!

[@omondikochieng41]

SAmazing content,keep it up sir.

[@valentinewatati1946]

The Intro 🔥

[@MtotowaNjuru]

This is an awesome & insightful interview Thanks

[@redia8264]

Really enjoying your content.Can you also bring in script writers and directors and different members of the crewwww

[@shelmithtracy3713]

So much insight...such great conversations you guys have.

[@pajedetail3301]

That intro....

[@BanquetwithMumbi21]

So this is what happens,when men come together !!😂😂🙌 Andd warraa show!!

[@calvinjeff7133]

Finally

[@brigitauma6465]

💥💥💥

[@habsmacantoy5204]

Guys when is the next video😉. Addiction is real haiya..

[@ManTalkKe]

We are restocking our shelves on Thursday, 6pm, East African Time. Standard.

[@meganomare]

Another fantastic conversation... So much to be applied even if we aren't in creative fields. And it was enjoyable to listen to. 💖

[@tereproductionstv1663]

I can hear the British accent with that guy

[@damarismukami.]

Please fix sound, otherwise great content.

[@alphafilms2813]

25:55😂Hilarious!!!

[@maggie-divinejoy]

Very informative

[@maryannnyambura1778]

Dem boyz pretending they don't know Tokodi is married and he was wearing a ring the whole time. Lol..

[@asiawawuda4887]

Too much English......the British accent eish. guys munatusuffocate

[@discounthub1401]

I'm trying to watch this show, but I'm struggling. Is it just a bunch of middle class Kenyans praising themselves when they really aren't making that much money? Kenya is Kenya and it's one of the poorest countries in the world. How much money can you really make in Kenya as a creative? Why not be like Lupita Nyongo? be real and understand that to really make it you need to be in New York, London or Los Angeles? I'm more curious about Eli because he grew up in London -- Does he really believe that Kenya is the place to be? or did he just get tired of the racism in Europe and decided he needed a break? I've noticed that a lot of Kenyans that move back are from Europe and not the US -- America is different. The opportunities are different. Once you get there moving back to Kenya is out of the question. What do you guys think?

[@skaranja07]

You obviously cannot compare the Kenyan creative industry to the industry in America, but you have to give credit where it is due and it has definitely come a long way. I definitely did not get the vibe that they are praising themselves but rather answering the questions they have been asked and granted they are good at their craft. They are clearly making money out of being creatives and not everyone's path in life is to be the 'Lupita' and it may or may not be their goal to go to other countries. Why not expand the industry from right where they are because going to Hollywood is not a guarantee or sure thing. And I am speaking as someone who has direct contacts with people working in Hollywood and it is no walk in the park and the people making the money are the big celebrities you see on tv and movie screens. And as a Kenyan who lives in the States I have seen a ton of people move back home as much as there is opportunity out here, again that's not the end all be all.

[@mbularain6148]

Just how demeaning can some people get? Bunch? Middle class?? Is it really necessary?🤷‍♂️Success is sure relative ...so what if their win is small.to you? Means they shouldn't celebrate it? We love their content!! We relate to their content. Call that shallow or whatever but they are good! Also title of the video is pretty clear; we're talking about the Kenyan industry here. Pretty simple. There is criticism but this, is destructive criticism 😄

[@discounthub1401]

@@skaranja07 You make very valid points. I guess what I'm seeing with this show is the general cautiousness of Kenyans & especially middle class Kenyans. A more honest discussion about Money would have made this more interesting, don't you think? It's not hollywood, it's still Kenya. Also, I've noticed with many middle class Kenyans and their continuing references to America and in this one we heard..Braveheart, johnny Depp...etc, etc Do middle class kenyans think they can re-create america in Kenya? The kenyans coming out of the slums seem to be more real about Kenya's realities. I also assume that anyone that loves acting would love to make it in hollywood one day. They're all watching the Emmy's the oscars....the middle class kenyan dream appears to be in America. is this true or not? And I go back to Eli again -- I'm sure coming from London he see's the 3rd world realities of Kenya . He is cautious with his questions (is it because he doesn't want to offend them with the truth of what he sees in Kenya or what?) I would have asked the following questions: Is your ultimate dream to move to Los Angeles and make it in hollywood? How long can you work as a "creative" in Kenya before that conservative society starts to ignore you? Can you do it past 40? Nairobi is expensive. Do you think creatives can afford to live in Nairobi given how little it pays? Has social media hyped this idea of being a creative in Kenya? when for most, it's not a sustainable career. All these young people starting youtube channels, spending 24hrs a day on instagram hoping to become who? the next Kardashians? are they being realistic?

[@skaranja07]

@@discounthub1401 just because they didn’t cover what you would have wanted them to cover doesn’t take away the validity of the content. And what exactly is wrong with them using American references, if that’s where they get their inspiration from? Don’t impose your perspective on others as it being superior. You can live the dream living anywhere... it is all relative. There are many struggling creatives in America too, this ain’t the land of milk and honey ! The hustle is all the same! Let’s empower the younger generation to wanna improve the current Kenyan creative industry instead of putting them down. And from what I’ve seen, you can absolutely make a good living being a creative in Kenya as the industry is expanding.

[@discounthub1401]

@@skaranja07 You make more good points. Can you really live the dream anywhere? I'm not sure about that, but yes, they are many struggling creatives in the US (i've met them) but at least with those one's they can go on to other jobs in the wider creative field because the industry in the US is so vast. Dont you think Kenya is like a village echo chamber? You can say I'm a great actor, singer or whatever (& maybe you are who knows?) but you won't really know until you compete against the best. It's like playing for Gor Mahia and saying I'm a great football player. Maybe. but you won't really know unless you play in Europe against the best. So, people have to guard against getting stuck in that echo chamber. Actually, that would have been a good question for them. Is Kenya a village echo chamber that one has to escape from in order to realize their full creative potential? I'd be very nervous in Kenya. Imagine hitting 40 & then everything stops and you have no gigs, no income, nothing...