S550 Mustang SQUARE vs STAGGERED Tire Setup Pros & Cons | Is Staggered OVERRATED?

[@ChrisGlover-m7x]

If you ever redo this video. Handling is a huge pro/con for both staggered and squared. Pros for handling include cornering improvement. Great for auto cross driving style. Staggered works great for drag or fast driving.

[@Red5oh]

Yeah that’s a good point as square set up is better for handling. I may do an updated video to include that point to help out buyers

[@MrDalon37]

Hey bro nice set up. I’m thinking of doing the same as you mainly because I daily mine as well and I’d like to get every penny out of my tires lol. Is you car lowered in this video? Also what wing is that? Thanks in advance 🙏🏽

[@Red5oh]

Do it! This is a great setup. I have almost 20k miles on mine and tires ate h ok ding up great due to being able to rotate. Car is lowered on steeda springs and has GT500 spoiler. I have got review videos on both that you should check out

[@Phoenixr-ql2kc]

What camera is this, this is the cleanest and sharpest video i think I’ve seen

[@Red5oh]

Thank you! It’s actually just an iPhone lol

[@YETI_GT_CS]

Not sure if this was asked. Are you lowered and issues with rubbing? I have the SVE R350 285s squared and want to lower with the sport line springs

[@jessicaphoenix1312]

Im not sure what Im going to get away with after the lowering springs. I hear that the S650 lowers farther for some reason. Im hoping to get 305 or 315 in the rear before the whipple gets installed so Im not like a cat on a kitchen floor, tryin to get traction.

[@Red5oh]

If you’re going whipple you’d need a drag pack 305/45/17 is the most common set up. 315 works too but less options. Whipple will have a lot of tq lower to mid range so you want something that can hook

[@JETZcorp]

Square for track/autox/touge Staggered for drag or The Gram

[@Red5oh]

Yeah that’s pretty accurate. Staggered definitely looks better

[@Mrkingwoozy]

the car is my 2nd car i dont have any plans on racing the car it will be for show and a weekend chill car what would you recommend

[@Red5oh]

I’d go with square if you want cheaper maintenance so you can rotate the tires. But if you just want good looking stance then go 305 rear and 285 front

[@CaptainCJ97]

I say sqaure is the best route especially if it's your main car if you get a flat you'll need to carry 2 tires because they're different sizes

[@Red5oh]

Exactly it’s a lot more daily driver friendly but I can see why people go for staggered for max traction and the look

[@sn95_mustang_garage]

I am staggered, fronts 20x9 with 255-35-20 tires and rear 20x10 with 305-35-20 tires. Honestly, I don’t like the look. The tire size needs to be closer. So now I’m switching to front tires 275-35-20 and rears 295-35-20. Rotation is not an issue, the fronts don’t wear plus I have 6400 miles on a 2020 Procharged GT. I don’t drive the car much anyway. For a daily a square setup is probably ideal but not needed on non-daily cars.

[@Red5oh]

Yeah staggered is definitely the way to go for looks and more traction. I originally wanted staggered 305/285. I also wanted A/S tires and no one makes size bigger than 285 for A/S for our cars that’s why I went square to have the widest set up for my needs. What tires do you have and do you have hook with a pro charger? I’m planning on going boost next year so curious if I’d need to run R2 or MT SS or can I still run street tires and have ok traction

[@antonisantonio]

Bro 19x10/285 front 19x10.5/295 back You think will be ok ?

[@Red5oh]

Yup that will fit and will look really great! I’d personally do square if you’re going for 295s. Difference between 285 and 295 isn’t much but you’d benefit from rotating your tires

[@antonisantonio]

@@Red5ohthanks for ur answer bro

[@Red5oh]

@@antonisantonio of course bro! Hit me up if you have any other questions. Insta is probably quicker

[@antonisantonio]

@@Red5ohi added you bro

[@chrisw.7039]

I think I’m going to stay staggered but maybe go 20’s with a 1 inch drop so I can maintain standard ground clearance of 19’s on stock springs since it’s a daily. I know this might not be practical for most people with a Mustang , but if you aren’t leaving any marks on the street I feel like the fronts wear faster cause they carry more weight especially if they are summer tires. Also fronts do the turning so you probably rub off a little more rubber when turning than you do on the rear wheels, that is, if you not smoking them. One other thing. If you wanna rotate your tires yourself make sure you get tires that aren’t directional. I got my Mustang in January so by the time it’s time to get new tires I will purchase some nicer rims over the factory performance pack rims and will put another set of summers on the new rims and all seasons on the factory ones for the winter months.

[@Red5oh]

Yeah 20s would look amazing with 1 inch drop! The rims I wanted did not come in 20s otherwise I would've considered it as it would allow me to 305 instead of 285. 285 is the highest for all season tires if going 19 inch wheels. Definitely look into steeda springs when the time comes, I have been really impressed with their drivability but also the improved stance and handling

[@colematthews7535]

This looks perfect. Coming from an STI I feel like staggered would fuck up the sideways handling. Just imo. Looks very track focused with this setup. Will do exactly this on my Camaro lt1. Props bro

[@Red5oh]

Yeah while staggered looks nice square set up makes sense for a daily driver as you can easily rotate them

[@xrmerkur]

🐎Daily Use Square 🏁Track Use Staggered

[@Red5oh]

Yes! Can’t deny the staggered setup looks good

[@xrmerkur]

@@Red5oh absolutely, if i put the effort and money in it would be cool to have both options. that way any driving in the winter would be stock square. then as soon as spring is official the staggered back on. but honestly for convenience i’d stay squared 365

[@CrazyGreek80]

I did the mustang thing for years and absolutely love them but what I found with bigger tires comes bigger prices and to daily drive with such large tires is crazy. You will get 20 maybe 25k out of the rears which is fine if you rotate but the staggered, I found I went through two sets of rear tires before needing to buy a front set. I feel like the OE 255 up front and 276 in the rear would be more suitable for daily driving. Then again if it's your weekend car then go for it.😎😎

[@Red5oh]

Yeah for any decent sticky tire you will burn through rears very quickly. I am curious how long the square set up lasts me with regular rotations. So far I have 10k miles on them with 2 rotation and they look pretty much new.

[@Dro-Ordanzo]

Hey quick question let’s say I buy a 18x8 + 35 offset wheel and a 18x 8.5 + 35 offset wheel, will both wheels fit the same or will the wheel that’s an 8.5 will poke out a bit more compared to the one that’s a 8 width wheel? ( not for a mustang but for a Mazda 3 )

[@Red5oh]

Yup they both won’t fit the same since one wheel is 8.5 you’ll have a bit of a poke

[@chemaflores5956]

I love the set up! 2 dumb questions for you. Where did you get the wheels? And do you think is risky to go with the 285s specially for the front? I’m stock on suspension and i currently have a square set up of 275s

[@Red5oh]

Thanks! I got the wheels from LMR. As long as offset is around +35 for fronts you can run 285 without a problem. You can do 305 but you’ll have to play with the offset and camber.

[@iskates9101]

I have 285 on the back and 255 in the front but tbh I don’t think it’s risky to have that wide in front

[@RigoCortes]

I run a 275 square setup. I autocross my car and I use a 5MM slip on spacer on all four wheels. This will help eliminate tire rub in the front if you do a real tight turn

[@asosa5.080]

do you know if its possible to do a staggered set up with 20x10 in the front with 275? and 20x10.5 in the rear with 305? Ferrada wheels? with steeda springs

[@Red5oh]

20x10.5 might be a little small. It could work but I’d go for 11s if you want 305. 295 tire would work well with 10.5 wheel

[@zoob4371]

@@Red5ohi got a question if i wanna run a square 275 or 285 all around what wheel size would i need and would it rub ?

[@CLe-cr4zp]

The rotation is a wash cause in the staggered setup you don’t have to replace the front tires for a long time.

[@Red5oh]

That’s a good point. You’d just be replacing rears which would be wide thus expensive. But yes not much difference once you factor that in

[@mrkensterz8667]

Looks great! What offset on the square set up! I might have missed it lol

[@Red5oh]

I’ve got +35 off set on my 285s

[@AlexMunoz-ph6ey]

What offset are you running I wanna go ahead and get 19x9.5 with a 22+ offset how would that sit

[@Red5oh]

Mine is 19x10+35. Not too familiar with offset you mentioned

[@Awkwamanwitdastang]

I have a 2024 model, and i was thinking about 20×10 all around

[@Red5oh]

That would look good! Square set up will be better for daily driver for sure and staggered might look better

[@xytics5519]

did u do any modifications to make the 19x10s fit in the front ? or u had no problem

[@Red5oh]

No it fine without modifications. I didn’t use spacers either

[@xytics5519]

@@Red5oh hey what’s the offset on yours and do you know the range of offsets that can fit ? i think past 40 mm doesn’t fit but idk if i can go as low as 20 mm or not

[@Red5oh]

@@xytics5519 offset depends on tire sizes but I’m not 100% on the range. Mine is +35 for 285 tire. If I had gone with 305 tire I’d need the same rim that’s 11 inches therefore I’d need +50 offset

[@marswrld2489]

Can you do staggered with the stock rims?

[@Red5oh]

You could but it won't really look good as stock wheels aren't wide enough to do a proper staggered set up

[@marswrld2489]

@@Red5oh I think you misunderstood the question, I want do to do a staggered set up with some mickeys but I have the stock rims that came with the car. Would they still fit with the rims?

[@Red5oh]

@@marswrld2489 I see. Unless you have performance pack your wheels are 8.5 which means 255 is the widest you can run in the rear. With PP1 (9.5 inch wheel) you can do 275s. Typically staggered set ups look great when they are 305s which means you would need an 11 inch wheel that stock mustang wheels don't have unless PP2. So do a proper staggered set up you'd need aftermarket wheels

[@ronny282]

What size are those wheels? 19x10?

[@Red5oh]

Yes 19x10 all around

[@tarikglushko8067]

can i fit 305 on 19x10 in the rear?

[@Red5oh]

You’ll need 19x10 to fit 305 in the rear

[@ethanpack614]

Would a 19x10 with a 38mm offset work with the 285s?

[@Red5oh]

It may be tucked in a bit but it will work. Mine is +35 offset and is pretty much flush

[@ethanpack614]

@@Red5oh the wheels I want the closest they had to 35 was a 38 offset unless I ran 20s

[@estrada5.0]

Would 19x9.5 front and 19x11 rear work fine??

[@Red5oh]

Yup with the right tire size you’d be ok. Think 305 rear and 275 front

[@estrada5.0]

Appreciate it man. Yeah the specific rims I'm looking at don't offer 19x10 so I wanted to make sure a 9.5 would work with an 11.

[@larryjernigan2947]

Your car is very nice. Would like one just like it.

[@Red5oh]

Thank you! I really wanted the race red. Hope you to own one similar to this soon!

[@jorgecampa482]

Your tires have a very high treadwear for a Mustang! 540!! The new Dark Horse Trofeo are 100 or less. I myself use pirelli pzero nero with 220tw. You should be like a dog in soapy marble with such high treadwear

[@Red5oh]

On street they are pretty good. Even held up fine when I was stock. But with a tune I did not like it. I recently uploaded a video on traction issues at the drag strip

[@elir.torres8642]

35 side wall is too low and your ride will be choppy. 40/45 is the perfect balance.

[@Red5oh]

I didn’t notice any difference going from 40 to 35. I’ve heard 30 tends to be where ride quality goes to crap

[@williambrand2957]

Is this an off-road build 😂

[@Red5oh]

lol what makes you say that 😂

[@malinoisnation9392]

Eh tires aren’t that expensive

[@Red5oh]

Depends on which tires. There’s cheap narrow tires that you can put on your mustang but what’s the point. A good wide set will run close 1100 or so

[@malinoisnation9392]

@@Red5oh yup. I run 255 285 on my fbo stage 2plus n54 e60 but they last a couple seasons. So it’s about $50 a month. Cheap and well worth it