SA's problem is not money but a crisis of governance: Moeletsi Mbeki

As the country ponders over the budget Speech delivered by Finance minister Enoch Godongwana, Moeletsi Mbeki says South Africa's problem is not money, the country's problem is a crisis of governance. Previously Mbeki has said, that the majority of South Africans have lost all confidence in the ability of the ANC leadership to provide them with a better life, which could unleash all sorts of social ills. He also said that lack of planning amid high unemployment, particularly among the youth with no practical plan by the government, high levels of poverty, and people living in grinding conditions in shacks could unleash all sorts of social ills. Moeletsi Mbeki, Deputy chair of the South African Institute of International Affairs and political analyst joins us in the studio.
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[@MamaMama-kq1fx]

ANC is the big problem for south Africa 🇿🇦

[@user-ww5qw8jd3b]

The biggest problem is the people who voting them

[@ermericcarolissen694]

I seriously doubt that the ANC will go peacefully.

[@fredbantu3694]

I know they wont who would hire or work with them.

[@sudonym5356]

They won't. If they can kill each other for positions among themselves, imagine what they'll do to external opposition.

[@sophiavorster9406]

We must do everything in our power to protect our state buildings until elections next year... Nuff said!

[@ronalddippenaar2381]

The government is rotten to the core. From Cyril, the police to the clerk behind the counter at Home Affairs who sells citizenships.

[@durbanite3997]

I have the same fear - I think they will start civil war if they lose power. I don't see them going out quietly

[@joziboy8673]

I admire Mr Mbeki who has never used his relationship with his brother Thabo or the Fact that his father was Govan Mbeki to Blindly support the ANC and has always been a sober voice by holding individual yet rational views, a true African and son of democracy and who is much loved. A scholar and a gentleman indeed! Malibongwe!

[@tshepokofi3957]

check his involvement in arms deal, 25% stake in the company involved with Arms Deal scandal....he is not innocent...just protected or covered his tracks well

[@nozientshangase7074]

❤

[@Busie1976]

I admire you Mr Mbheki for such honest naked truth. Thank you for sharing nothing but the truth, I admire your courage we need more men like you who call a spade a spade 🙏🙏

[@tshepokofi3957]

he has R55m holiday house courtesy of the arms deal, same arms deal Zuma must answer for......he is not comletely innocent

[@chriserodis2752]

and yet anc leadership, the elite did not appreciate him. the anc are rulers , not governors

[@tehzeebpatel]

We as a nation suffer the consequences of a government that does not care for us. South Africa as a nation has had the resources and manpower to rise far above its history, and it has been poor governance that has held us back from it. Look at how developed countries are constantly pushing their names forward in the fields of science, economics, architecture and medicine, and then look at where South Africa is. We are sitting around expressing the same frustrations and having the same conversations that we did years ago, and if things go on the way they are, this is all we will ever do. The future of this country looks even more bleak than the present.

[@gstar3569]

its called communism and it never works! Time for the ANC to go! The ANC ideas are outdated failed ideas from the 60s. Time to abandon the idea of redistribution!

[@jeanettataljaard7388]

Mr. Mbeki, you are a man with integrity. I wish SA could have you as a president.

[@markwainwright6243]

Very wise intelligent man,I always value his input

[@doubletrouble1241]

SPOT ON MR MBEKI!!!!

[@mandla247]

Time for us young people to vote!!! Time for change family. Abuse is abuse no matter how you want to sugar coat it

[@gustabeumer688]

They are not even sugar coating it. Why do you think they keep most of their citizens uneducated. Why is unemployment so high ? They do it blatantly so maybe the rural citizens will hear it by word of mouth ?

[@mandla247]

@Gusta Beumer ANCs vote is basically black older generation and and uneducated people. When elections come they will rock up in the townships with alcohol, meat and stories of Apartheid. I mean how many uneducated South Africans will even understand the conversation in this video. The opposition parties don't help by also being useless, but it's time for change

[@soniaantonio4741]

Amen

[@tonitappous2422]

Have you seen Mac G's recent Podcast with John Steenhuisen on KZbin? It is a real eye- opener on many critical issues facing our country today including electricity, poverty, joblessness, social housing, land reform and creating generational wealth for poor people through property ownership. ( over half a million views)

[@mandla247]

@Toni Tappous I have watched the interview, but my personal opinion is that there is no opposition party that is built to lead South Africa, however ANC has run its race so we need to try the others out. DA I believe will help South Africa run in a much better way, but over the long term we will see that it would have benefited white people more than black. That is in essence what happens where they govern currently, but like I said at this point we need change regardless of who you choose to vote for, it should just not be the ANC. ANC is the grandfather who we have to accept needs to retire and go sit at home.

[@alansutton9388]

What a wise man

[@zandraoosthuizen-io6tp]

Wonderful interview... someone with insight! Wish you were our President!! I would love to vote for YOU!

[@thabangcj4498]

Spot on interview Leanne! Thank you for your honesty and insight Mr Moeletsi Mbeki!

[@bdk5945]

This guy is one of ZA's best ✊😀 🇿🇦

[@elsabeleroux7896]

Thank you for open honesty Mr Mbeki. Very interesting interview.

[@wernervanrooyen7010]

Thanks for the truth Mr Mbeki!

[@melikhayapantsi783]

Mr Mbeki is always making sense, he breaks the issues down quite easily.

[@drandrewsibisi]

Thank you Lee-Anne for being bold and laying it bare. Great journalism 👌

[@The_First_Sean]

NO IMMORALITY ACT!!!

[@o.jsenosi4730]

We must really vote next year and vote for a better party than ANC, no emotions involved in voting and only then we can come up a better country

[@soniaantonio4741]

Unite and fight together.. it's the only way forward

[@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087]

No matter how much we vote, we vote to make more debt in order to pay debt. This reminds me of a father that gambles his families money out, and eventually children lose their lives throug hunger. The very own father and his business partners should pay for all the reckless decisions made in order to not lose face value with his family. Normally this costs the lives of everyone including the father.

[@tshepokofi3957]

you can vote better if you understand, if you dont politians will lie to you easily, they can promise you 5 million jobs, you will believe it, unless you understand how a job is created.

[@omnihein9322]

​@@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087 if you don't vote for the opposition, you don't have the right to complain about the incompetent government we have now. We all need to stand together and vote the ANC out.

[@mandelaali5194]

DISSOLVE THE PARLIAMENT NOW,PLEASE!!!! DISSOLVE THE PARLIAMENT NOW PLEASE!!🙆🙆🙆🙆🙆🙆

[@junkjournalsvideos1649]

The people responsible for the mess in South Africa are the people who voted the current government into power. And this will be the outcome at the next election, too. As long as the voters are blind and uninformed, we will live in darkness. If you voted for this government, don't complain about loadshedding, potholed roads, poor water quality, etc, etc.

[@wongama6651]

You are spot on. We shouldn't complain also about high level of unemployment. Let's hope these illiterates are beginning to see what the ANC is all about.

[@truthseeker-dt8zf]

​@@wongama6651' ILLITERATES' ? Maybe the people voting feels human in the ANC.literate people are mostly not wise. They call other people names,have this sense of superiority over others to them other people are them.

[@lawrencechesworth5902]

You are so right and well said

[@pamelaleibowitz3019]

Thank you so much for your input Mr Mbkebi!

[@fuzzykoenig6981]

Very interesting interview, to the point & realistic. Yes, speak to everyone u see that they need to vote, especially the youth, who face a very bleak future. Mr Mbeki is professionally well versed in the economics and politics of this country, he would be a brilliant President. PS Leanne is Miss World caliber 😇😇

[@ZA_POLLS]

pitched PERFECTLY

[@mtetelelimrwetyana2002]

The quicker ANC loses, the closer we get true freedom and restore our dignity

[@suezcontours6653]

China will save the day

[@sfisobuthelezi3054]

Politics is a scam no political party will save you

[@harryramphele7102]

The ANC supporters will still vote for the ANC , despite all allegations of corruption come 2024

[@tonitappous2422]

@@harryramphele7102 It is not only ANC voters who are to blame. If we continue to vote for small opposition parties, then the ANC will easily remain the largest political party in SA for some time to come and will continue to loot and destroy our country. We can CLOSE the gap on the ANC by collectively voting for the Official Opposition, which is the SECOND largest political party in SA!! Please SA, use your vote strategically in 2024 to get rid of the ANC as well as load - shedding once and for all!!

[@tonitappous2422]

The ANC will only lose if we unite behind and collectively vote DA in 2024 (instead of voting for hundreds of tiny, troublesome opposition parties!!) SA vote strategically in 2024!!

[@Duncanwg7]

Would be nice to have people such as this gentlemen in government

[@aneledraai3910]

I conquer

[@Cornelius1324]

True

[@lesediamondamane]

True

[@Cornelius1324]

I'll vote for him if he had a party and a team with the same wisdom and insight. We need this to disrupt the current corrupt cycle 👏. Someone like him will unite all.

[@The_First_Sean]

NO IMMORALITY ACT

[@leanelouw5455]

This man actually talk sense! Problem is who do we vote for?

[@bigSG1977]

Lord have your way we need the right people

[@stlouisix3]

learn from Most Holy Family Monastery OSB because only Jesus Christ can save his beloved South Aa which he created

[@samsamlall4118]

If this can be translated in all the different languages.lots of people will be educated

[@frankagliottisnr3657]

This is old news but now the ANC must go and urgently

[@suezcontours6653]

China will save the day

[@harryramphele7102]

The ANC supporters will still vote for the ANC , despite all allegations of corruption come 2024

[@diamondseries7221]

​@@harryramphele7102 Yes those grants are too addictive

[@tamara40]

​@@diamondseries7221grants 350 they're killing us people are becoming lazy now jhoh our beloved country is going to drain l feel the pressure for the youth of south African

[@mandlabinca6680]

But no white party will replace ANC

[@wijpke]

You need to make harsher laws against public stealing...and there needs to be big rewards for people exposing corruption of public money

[@theov5590]

No need for harsher laws, we need to enforce the laws. The state must apply the law, prosecute the corrupt thieves and put them in prison. That applies to corrupt politicians too. But unfortunately our president is also not clean with millions of dollars stached away in his furniture. Very sad indeed. Our ministers still try to convince us that the swimming pool at Nkandla is a fire pool. Are we the ordinary citizens really so dumb to just accept it.

[@thepriestess5969]

As well as lifetime (Social, Economical) protection of whistle blowers.

[@barefootedbougie]

So true. Whistleblowers are left unprotected.

[@thembinkuna96]

South Africa is ticking time bomb for civil disobedience. Noone seemed to have learned a lesson from Arab spring. Exodus of rich capital to safe havens, rising cost of basic necessities, middle class drowning in debt & large number of youth out of jobs!!

[@RencheKinshella]

So true ! we can't go on like this . South Africans are surviving not living .

[@The_First_Sean]

NO IMMORALITY ACT

[@raphaelchifana3530]

Honest man and very candid conversation

[@qureshasithaldeen7087]

Why do we not have wise, learned, knowledgeable, and spoken people like this instead of the jokers that we call ministers?!

[@tshepisoful]

This truths are so sad... but it is the reality of the matter in our country.

[@sihlemalinga9444]

Thankful for the Mbeki Family.

[@adrianboshoff1582]

If government is the problem then they must go. Why wait for elections. Dissolve Parliament and let's start fixing up the mess created by the anc now.

[@truth-Hurts375]

You must be some sort of a stupid....where in the world do they just dissolve goverments...they are elected by the citizens and they got the right to govern untill voted out....

[@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087]

How do we do this

[@Cotac_Rastic]

@@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087 What are you? Brainless? How do you think the ANC got ito power?

[@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087]

@@Cotac_Rastic fight? This world is full of war hungry people. Maybe a legal way will be better?

[@Cotac_Rastic]

@@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087 😂👆 This dude thinks the ANC is going to abide by the law

[@siyabongajacobdlamini1764]

What like Mr Mbeki he is not bias even when his brother was president he criticized him till today he still critical of how the ANC govern this country.

[@makhwenkwerani4195]

We don't need party politics, constituency( representatives) is the way to go about to curb deep the corrupt tendency.. We have individuals who are equipped to Run the country successfully.. #CONSTITUENCY Representation..

[@juliocosta5818]

What a superb host

[@jameskillu9171]

Pravin has been in Eskom for 10 years, He is the father of Looters in Eskom

[@luciossithole5487]

Pravin Jamnanda Ghordan is our worse minister the head of looting At Eskom the Richest Pharmacist in South Africa 🇿🇦

[@mlungisimasangane]

Vbh5htf4

[@thembelandesi4741]

ANC is the downfall of this country.

[@ashleykhan-xk8ru]

I ENCOURAGE ALL SOUTH AFRICANS TO GO AND VOTE IN THE NEXT ELECTIONS TO MAKE ADIFFRENCE.

[@tandekangoma5715]

Especially the youth.

[@ashleykhan-xk8ru]

@@tandekangoma5715 YES

[@sthembhele6241]

Problem... there is no alternative opposition

[@martinnauta4385]

If we can get rid of the ANC in any way, shape or form, imagen how many investors would line up to make money on our degraded country, to build it up again to where it was 20+ years ago?.

[@thebergbok8279]

Why ,,,the environment, the people, still remain the same. Everything is broken , so tell me where the box of pearls & rubies is hidden. I'm afraid its wishful thinking on your part.....

[@YETI_312]

​@@thebergbok8279 the box of pearls and rubies is the population itself and if you watched the video then you know that the only issue in SA is governance. It's not like we don't have the capacity to rebuild the country.

[@Scott.Silburn]

SA is currently rushing headlong towards Zim II status... I keep thinking it'll change for the better, but I have no idea how or why...

[@tandekangoma5715]

If people vote especially the youth

[@simba8665]

​@@tandekangoma5715 ma vote ekuZim don't work

[@mduduzimbonxa4677]

Under ramaphosa things got worse,for the first time since 2018 loadshedding everyday,stage 6 to say the least.

[@lethibatselalanga5723]

Moeletsi says it as it is. He isn’t afraid of all of them.

[@thekikster11]

A lone voice of reason

[@Cornelius1324]

True story

[@davidclowes2280]

The people of SA need to unite against the ANC looters

[@johanschoeman869]

Dissolve Parliament!

[@suezcontours6653]

China will save the day

[@AndrewMcFarlane_1]

Not sure the ANC will like that

[@itskaptainmikey4399]

This guy gets it.

[@The_First_Sean]

NO IMMORALITY ACT!!!

[@abrammathebe510]

So true, so very true!

[@onkewakaba8274]

I'm definitely voting DA , we done with corruption

[@gysgijsbers4202]

Action SA also a solid option...

[@jameskillu9171]

haha slave owner is better than a black master

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

@@gysgijsbers4202 Anything besides the and and eff.

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

@Kemet☯️ I love this country and I will vote in every election. We can't afford to be apathetic or give up.

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

@Kemet☯️ I know.

[@rossonearth]

Saying it as it is...

[@shawngower6812]

Leanne... lets keep rocking this boat, lets get more honest reliable people out there talk truth, spill the beans and help break down the ANC, get them out and get compitant people in to save our country. Vote the crap out

[@lesediamondamane]

He is just like his older brother, a brilliant man indeed.

[@sthembhele6241]

They differ... one is pro ANC while the other one is not.

[@jagoz9367]

The problem is that we as citizens enjoy this state of affairs, like an abused wife who continues to forgive his abusive husband.

[@nosiphosobekwa9316]

Mbeki is right, I’ve been worried about Governance as far as ANC is concerned for sometime.

[@jennychurchill2716]

Moeletsi Mbeke is a man of integrity, if only he could have been the brother who became the President. We have to vote the Anc out in 2024 and remove the teeth of the EFF at the same time.

[@The_First_Sean]

NO IMMORALITY ACT!!!

[@edmundwessels2072]

This happened to black farmers as well. They were forced of land because they refused to pay backhands to officials.

[@lwazingcakaza6410]

Old people (Mandela people), the youth, successful business people and tenderneurs are keeping this ANC government energized and relevant.

[@tandekangoma5715]

The old people thinks the grant money will taken away, these R350 also a way to make the youth depend on the govt…. I wish a lecture could be given to them that the grant is not going anywhere. Sad how ppl are fooled. Corruption, Crime, unemployment. Education , health system is in the drain.😡😡😡

[@katlego720]

only thing im grateful for is we live in democracy...

[@thembanimgenu190]

De Ryter has rocked the boat.

[@diamondseries7221]

Bless him

[@johngmulhatton9794]

The biggest problem that the National Party had was the fact that the whole World was opposed to Apartheid. (Segregation is rife in how many 1st World countries including the United Kingdom) That I think was the main cause of their demise. Corruption has now just moved to lower levels under the leadership of the ANC. I take my hat off to Mr. Moeletsi Mbeki as he is talking the truthful, facts.

[@alankennedy1742]

I agree that it is in everybody's interest to VOTE! And the 'opposition' should do more to get people to the polls - make them realise that every apathtetic "It's not worth it" is in fact like voting in favour of the status quo

[@kostaapostolou2713]

this is so true!!!

[@lucyvanderlee410]

Work together is the answer.

[@charlestumwesigye1205]

Moeletsi Mbeki an illustrious son of Africa that I love, an accomplished intellectual who tells it like it is and means what he says, no fear, no favour

[@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087]

Wish he was our president!

[@JesusmySalvation]

I love this gentleman! Someone with some sense, black and white, can work well together. Move this country forward. Opportunities for everyone. #SpaceX#Tesla#Twitter

[@SoundsLikeOdie]

The problem is not the ANC. The problem is the judiciary. When the ANC is gone we need to replace them all.

[@christianjams]

We can go on and do this blame game for the next decade, or we can realize that we are a democratic state thus meaning that the real blame is on everyone that chooses to turn a blind eye on the problems that we're facing in our country, or chooses to keep silent and wait for the government and politicians to do something. THE MORE POWER WE GIVE THEM,THE MORE THEY WILL EXPLOIT IT TO THIER BENEFIT AND THEN WANT TO SEIZE EVEN MORE POWER. We ALL need to stand up for what we believe is right, otherwise we can't complain when it all goes wrong. SILENCE = CONSENT

[@angieharvett5591]

Baie dankie vir die man se eerlikheid Hy nie bang om te se hoe hy voel nie En wie hy aanvat nie Hy het breins.Ons het meer mense soos hy nodig

[@The_First_Sean]

NO IMMORALITY ACT!!!

[@joeldlamini319]

Constituency elections are better than just party elections,: Mbeki is on point there.

[@marietjielarney6849]

The ANC is causing all the all the suffering.

[@harryramphele7102]

The ANC supporters will still vote for the ANC , despite all allegations of corruption come 2024

[@dorothywarner8141]

​@@harryramphele7102 I see & hear that many have become disgruntled. Time fir a change

[@shubielechesa8836]

Very wrong. All the suffering was caused by the racist regime. ANC is just continuing at a larger scale and faster pace

[@deansawich6250]

Thanks Moletse Mbeki has a lot more common sense than his brother.

[@phumeza343]

Truth Sir Period and we know it hurts right

[@mkza2280]

Exactly 💯

[@samuelt.kisaame7787]

I usually love to listen to Mr Moeletsi Mbeki's views but I must say that I disagree with his statement at the beginning when he said that the crisis of governance within the National Party is what led to its ultimate collapse especially the exclusion of the majority of the people of South Africa from the vote. Herein lies my disagreement; you see, the National Party right from the time it took power in 1948 was structured and in fact conducted itself, as an elitist political party whose political, economic and social ideology was informed by a belief in racial supremacy and prejudice. That notwithstanding, it managed to successfully rule the country for 46 years until it was toppled by a popular vote in 1994. Bear in mind that during its rule, it went through several waves of international sanctions. When Mandela took over, he inherited a strong but unequal economy, meaning that the fundamentals of the economy worked like a well-oiled machine despite other ecomomic problems of the time. For example, the Rand was strong and families could be adequately supported with low wages and salaries. Inflation was also under control notwithstanding economic sanctions and the anarchy of the 1980s. Therefore, I would attribute the National Party's demise to shifting global geo-political trends which undermined its justification for the continuation of the policy of apartheid. (For the sake of my comment's length, I shall not go deep into that). Secondly, even if it had permitted other races into its ranks, let's say by 1970, that would have only served to achieve one thing, and one thing only; that is, "bring forward the date of South Africa's economic and political calamity" as is the case today. In a nutshell, had that happened, the problems of ESKOM, other State owned Enterprises and what not, would have started much, much earlier and by now South Africa and Zimbabwe would have been very identical in many aspects. I hate to say this although the truth is usually never pleasant anyway - posterity has economically vindicated the National Party to a very large extent. How? The National Party leaders, especially P.W Botha used to argue that a black-led government (with Socialist/Communist ideology) would ruin South Africa economically. May I ask where the country is today, several decades later? I however agree with the rest of Mr Mbeki's submissions and I sincerely hope that Leanne won't be fired for asking "counter-revolutionary questions" and making, "subversive comments".

[@yusufbulbulia1102]

WE THE PEOPLE should tell the government what to do

[@sarahdlp524]

His point on constituencies is really important. Instead of ANC appointing MPs (cadre deployment), THE PEOPLE vote for MPs. Therefore the MPs serve the people or they get voted out.

[@stevenbrittan8416]

These public servants only serve themselves. Why not fire them all and reassign new competent individuals that actually care.

[@martinnauta4385]

Solar is not expensive if you go off-grid as well. . It's an investment that pays back in a few years. There are not many investments that pay off this quickly! Then afterwards you have electricity for free....

[@diebaas1337]

The solar panels have degradation as well as the batteries. Both needs to be replaced eventually. It normally takes 12+ years to break even and then a battery replacement is overdue. You'd make more money simply putting your cash in a savings account at a bank.

[@shafiyaalgiquadra1105]

You either don't know what you are talking about or you are in line to benefit from solar panels somehow.

[@henkstols9326]

"let them eat cake" thats the government we got, no accountability for their actions.

[@colinseymour6441]

True. We know what happened to the madam that uttered those words. I hope it happens to those in power now too.

[@stevenbrittan8416]

All this chaos was predicted more than 50 years ago...!!! Now it's coming to fruition.

[@garconnoir4471]

Predicted by who?

[@theeprox]

WE ARE DOOMED!

[@pieterjordaan-le6fb]

As long as the ANC reighs things will never get better. And it's time black south Africans see what's going on.

[@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087]

The worst thing anyone can do in crises situations is to make debt in order to pay debt. Just a matter of time and this loan pit will be empty. Its a dead end street.

[@africulturetv6498]

There is a strong need to educate the public in the manner that they will understand and have appetite to follow politics most south African opt watching dramas on tv than current affairs come the following day the see load shedding and never have a clue of political crisis there are in it's a very serious problem

[@kelvinkabasele4979]

Sad and profound interveiw,that so requires everyone to reflect and act.Observing isn't enough to effect CHANGE & wait for the coming elections

[@sbonzama7013]

Your brother is part of the problems we have now sir! During his time, alarm bells were raised about Eskom and did he do?

[@sthembhele6241]

I don't think that is fair. He is not Thabo.

[@FareedaHasson-qk5vu]

100% on point

[@tearyb]

Hate to say this, but PW predicted this would happen. He must’ve had a crystal ball.

[@aneledraai3910]

He was spot indeed, hope he was not a murderer of the masses though.

[@patrictshwenyane5819]

It is almost like here in Braamfischerville we are seen as uniformed and not deserving of seeing important National announcements. When SONA was broadcast electricity went off as soon as the president stated talking. It went off again as soon as the Minister of Finance started talking. Why are we targeted to miss such important speeches. Do you see us as persona non gata?

[@stevenbrittan8416]

There is no more middle class in this country.

[@stanmarr4488]

One of my concerns is that the virus of corruption has infected so many politicians, that it will not matter who you vote for,because the vast majority of our politicians are corrupted. We need a mentality shift in our politics. We need the right type of leaders, the ones who truly care about the country and its people, instead of enriching themselves with money that was meant to make the country a better place ...and that is the more difficult task at hand.

[@jantaljaard835]

One of our problems are the schools where the learners do not get useful, practical training.

[@vilakazicapital]

My Favorite Mbeki

[@samanthaholm9634]

Voice of sanity. Hopefully people are listening.

[@yolienozulumpafane7815]

Brilliant as our former President T.Mbeki