SA1 with TRUE raytracing

[@Ver11111]

Thanks for playing my mod! There are still some big updates to come in the next few months so keep an eye out!

[@Sonicfans1]

Looking forward to it. A lot of feedback can be found in the comments (the main one being some areas being way too dark)

[@kiwirocket64]

Dude if I where to play this mod and get it running at more then 5 fps due to it being way more complex then Mario 64 then I would play it. But all the preformance hacks in the world won’t save me lol

[@maxios-7613]

One piece of recommendation, since some areas are way too dark, either add lighting to it or make it so the light ring in Sonic's hand shines brighter in dark areas, I think that would make a great effect

[@misharatkevich9808]

This is REALLY tasteful. No "everything is wet shiny shinyyyyy" overkill, the RTX changes slot in so unobtrusively. Only comment is that some dark parts seem a bit TOO dark now, which makes realistic sense (there's no light source there), but is a little much from a gameplay perspective. The idea from maxios-7613 here of making the light ring in Sonic's hand shine brighter in dark areas seems like a good possible fix.

[@kylergee4]

How do I install it I don’t know what I’m doing could you like make a tutorial

[@Jensaiti99]

Its crazy how far updated lighting alone will take a game's graphics!

[@Sonicfans1]

Indeed

[@Robospy1]

Yeah, lighting is the king of graphics in my eyes. In some places this mod almost made this game look modern.

[@codezero7981]

Ray Tracing is pretty awesome but very taxing

[@Sonicfans1]

Yeah, it will be a while before computers can handle ray tracing without nearly over 1,000 dollar GPUS

[@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr]

meh i dont think it really improve it all that much, and the old lighting fits the models/textures better. it also barely has an effect on night/indoor scenes. it's interesting, especially to people who already played the game, but I don't think it adds a whole lot and isn't an objectively better style for sonic adventure. maybe if the graphics were improved with HD models and textures it could work.

[@Yuli_Ban]

What Sonic Adventure looked like when you were a kid.

[@Sonicfans1]

True

[@maxrichards5925]

Real

[@MR.MessyHair]

Based

[@Rubbe87]

No it looked bad then also sa2 was much better.

[@maxrichards5925]

@@Rubbe87 ok bud

[@hankosanko]

sonic adventure has the best 3d gameplay and running style. they shouldve never change it

[@Sonicfans1]

While I do like the boost formula, I agree the adventure formula imo is better!! My first sonic game was Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, so I’m obviously going to be a bit biased towards it.

[@kingkazma3246]

I blame Yuji Naka, Iizuka and 06, Sonic Team is notorious for fixing what ain't broken.

[@Crow_Rising]

Technically the Boost formula is just the Adventure formula but with a few additions and replacements. Spindash was swapped out with Boost, Bounce (introduced in SA2) was swapped out with Stomp, and finally Quick Step and Drift were added. People claim that the formula changes constantly, but in all honesty Heroes still uses a modified Adventure formula (just with the team gimmick) and Shadow 05/Sonic 06 lean back more into the Adventure formula as it was before Heroes, just with their own little changes. Secret Rings and Black Knight are basically just the Adventure formula on rails and with extra gimmicks on top, and the Boost Formula is again just another alteration on top of the Adventure formula. Even Lost World in its own ways is just the Adventure formula taken in another direction. The bigger thing that has become different isn't the formula, but the physics and level design. If the stages were designed more like SA1 and SA2 stages with no 2D sections and the physics were built to improve on what the Adventure games were shooting for, the Boost formula would end up feeling like a natural progression of the Adventure games. Though, I do think Stomp and Bounce should be able to co-exist in Sonic's moveset, and Frontiers has proven the same can be true for Spindash and Boost. I think a decent way of going about it would be to do it as a middle ground between Adventure 2 and Generations. Stage design similar to the Adventure and Heroes era stages in Generations, but with no 2D sections and better on foot controls for when the player doesn't want to go fast such as for searching for and collecting moveset upgrades similar to the Adventure games. There's also a lot of potential in continuing to improve the Frontiers playstyle for hub worlds, though maybe tone down these hub areas being the "main" gameplay section and have these places mostly function as fun little movement playgrounds for the player to go from stage to stage in like a cross between Frontiers and Adventure 1.

[@pAirA_]

I feel like Adventure formula has endless potential compared to boost. But add these two formulae together, and we could have something very special

[@rickydo6572]

​@@Crow_Rising The Adventure games had a bigger emphasis on platforming and were a more faithful translation of the 2D games into 3D while the boost formula emphasises a more reaction based playstyle on the 3D sections with most of the platforming being saved for the 2D sections, the 3D sections feature way less platforming because Sonic's controls are not optimized for platforming in the boost games, being more optimized for gaining and mantaining high speeds. Imo it's not really the evolution of the adventure formula and is more of a departure entirely, being the main reason why other characters aren't even playable in most of the Boost era games, some of Sonic's moves had to be changed to accomodate for this type of gameplay, and just like the adventure games used the 2D games as reference, the Boost games used the Adventure games as reference, but went in a very different direction I still think these are pretty nice games, the Boost era games tend to be more polished and less janky than any other 3D Sonic games, but I still think Sonic's Gameplay was more engaging in the Adventure games and a polished version of that gameplay style would be way better than what we got with the boost formula imo. I don't know if they're gonna keep going with the Sonic Frontiers style, which seems to be a combination of both the Adventure and Boost formulas, tho I haven't played it yet, it looks interesting but I feel like the gama should've stayed in the oven for longer.

[@realmarkinator]

The games graphics holds up surprisingly well with better lighting. It really shows how important lighting truly is to a games visuals.

[@phobosanomaly5383]

Yeah arkham knight is major proof of that

[@Sonicfans1]

God I love that games visuals. For a game released in 2015, It's really beautiful

[@PercyPanleo]

Yeah It's why it's so annoying how DX broke the lighting from the Dreamcast version

[@overwatch761]

Different NOT better. RT ruins the artistic style.

[@Shuffffff]

​@@overwatch761 for most games? Yes. This? Not really.

[@boogtoons4630]

calling 1080p low quality is insane to me

[@Sonicfans1]

I usually record in 1440p. That’s why I said that

[@coolguydoesstuff7876]

​@@Sonicfans1 it's barely a difference 😭

[@CullenRotten]

@@coolguydoesstuff7876 what is your monitor's resolution?

[@peckneck2439]

i guess times are changing. remember how 720p was considered "HD" at one point?

[@heitorsant1759]

​@@peckneck2439tbh I still consider it, idk if it's my eyes or what but I don't see much of difference between 720 and 1080

[@ThisisTheUltimate]

Ray Tracing+Dreamcast conversion mods+CGI Styled Sonic (and maybe one day all the characters too...)=Perfection

[@orangespikeanimates4480]

The fact that the reanimated animations mods was never existed was crazy

[@joshuadesousa6668]

Fans for the past decade have been saying for the Sonic Adventure remake “Fine, I’ll do it myself” and it’s amazing 😂🔥💯

[@toalesovikk7168]

Well it’s not really a remake, just different lighting.

[@Sonicfans1]

eh, it gives it more of a "remaster feel". For a fantastic example on what RTX remix can do, check out the HL2 RTX Remix Project.

[@DDRmails]

remaster.. same that Lara got

[@acronym.4328]

Seeing how much the community has modded SA1 and SA2 to hell and back, one could literally assume that the remake has already been done by now *(and for free)*

[@ktvx.94]

I like it, but I can't help but feel the global lighting is a bit too samy or almost volumetric, like it spreads/ bleeds into everything in an uncanny way. Also dark spots are completelt dark, I'm sure that wasn't the devs' idea. There would need to be some light sources. Also some effects leave a semi baked light for a while after they're gone.

[@DukeBluedevil70]

I’ve long thought that graphical improvements in games have stagnated but RTX continues to impress me. Makes everything feel fresh and seems to work with a lot of art styles. Cool stuff.

[@overwatch761]

Makes things look different. Better is purely subjective. It doesn't work here, Sonic Teams original work is superior.

[@DukeBluedevil70]

@@overwatch761 Better isn’t subjective. Art is not subjective. Visuals are not subjective. You seem very invested in this almost as if it’s a large part of your personality. Cope.

[@overwatch761]

@@DukeBluedevil70 Sonic Teams original work is superior. Shoehorning RT in were it doesn't belong doesn't look good.

[@DukeBluedevil70]

@@overwatch761 It does look good. It does belong. Sonic Team’s original work is inferior here. It’s 25 years old. Cope.

[@randominoh]

Okay, time to play SADX again for the 50th time only because of that mod

[@DemonDethchase]

That looks pretty good! I had seen an RTX mod before and it seemed to make the ground really shinny, like it was wet, regardless of it made sense or not and I didn't think it looked very good. But again, this looks a lot better.

[@Abonkit]

Finally someone adds the dreamcast lighting to DX

[@Sonicfans1]

This isn't the dreamcast lighting? This uses RTX Remix

[@Yuli_Ban]

@@Sonicfans1 Twas just a joke

[@Sonicfans1]

@@Yuli_Banah got ya

[@PlotlinePlus]

At first I wasn't too impressed, but the reflection of the police lights on chaos 0 looked really nice.

[@MatiasMishel96]

Although it's impressive it clashes with the og artstyle.

[@ChaelSonnen000]

No

[@bidybabies1906]

True, older video games like this weren't really created with ray tracing in mind

[@ReavinBlue]

look, its great and all, but I think some changes would have to be made to have a more coherent vision. its sorta dark right now. needs its light sources to be reworked in all stages to look better.

[@Sonicfans1]

It's still being worked on by the developer. Feel free to leave feedback on the game banana page, which I left in the description

[@Mc_Beefcake]

Very cool, emerald coast looks great! Speed Highway is so dark it's hard to see the raytracing do any work though, it would need someone to redo the lighting composition to make important pieces pop yet maintain the late night vibe.

[@bottomtext593]

1:45 Casually Approach Child

[@Sonicfans1]

That was not my intention lol. I just wanted to show off the real time shadows

[@ORLY911]

my problem is how how lowly lit everything is, the darks are just too high. need to find some way to brighten up the unlit areas with some kind of ambient lighting effect.

[@TeamUnpro]

DOPE! Finally someone made a real raytracing mod; I remember playing with Reshade's attempt at raytracing and it made everything wet af xD

[@filipemarques6722]

This is a great visual upgrade without damaging the original artwork of the game, which most mods fall into that trap of trying to improve what already is perfect

[@leekwelsh]

The best part of the mod is that it dosent make anything hyper realistic, just adds really pretty shadows and effects

[@psyanah4542]

Emerald Coast has never looked more y2k vaporwave / frutiger aero

[@tyisafk]

This looks so good! Hopefully someone will do the same for SA2! The cutscenes with path tracing would be crazy

[@Sonicfans1]

Agreed, I would love to see that. SA2 was my first Sonic game ever, so seeing it with RTX Remix would be cool to see

[@bioman1hazard607]

This looks awesome, all that game needs now is more refined controls and the dreamcast restoration mod

[@Hyp3rLynxOfficial]

I would play this over a remaster any day. updated light sources is good enough for me!

[@Sonicfans1]

I agree. But I also think dynamic Shadows are a must.

[@natemakesbeats2138]

Even if it’s left to the fans we are closer to a remake with cool shit like this

[@SoulAvon]

I see all these sonic adventure remakes on here that are just generations mods and such, but this honestly as a sonic fan is all I want. Sonic Adventure but with more updated lighting and some graphic improvements to at least pass it off as a “remake” and not just another generations mod

[@SoulAvon]

Also I was today years old when I figured out you can lodge back to back honing attacks with the light speed dash wtffff

[@Sonicfans1]

Yeah, the Light speed Attack can home in on enemies like the homing attack.

[@hewhosays7979]

This is fun to test and compare, but if anyone genuinely thinks slapping ray tracing makes the game look better is objectively wrong

[@filipemarques6722]

For the case of this game, I must disagree. Less is more. The less you mess with the original game the better, because it still respects the game legacy, while giving it a improved look

[@maxios-7613]

I really love how well and accurate this mod is !

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

That Emerald Coast prelude cutscene actually feels like what I remember it looking like when I was a kid in 2000. Not bad at all!

[@Q_DUNC]

This looks so cool! Hopefully there’s a SA2 RTX mod

[@DementisXYZ]

The end of speed highway through me off. It's lighting looks like it's about dusk, but I always saw that part of the stage as being shortly after dawn (given the cooler colors and how the rest of the stage was night).

[@maxios-7613]

Now the only thing this game needs is remaking all textures into high detailed ones and you will get the Sonic Adventure remake that we all wanted

[@ZipZapTesla]

I love how RTX started as a meme yet here we are, actually changing games with it

[@JackkyDubs]

Sonic Adventure Remake in the future:

[@shreyashishmitra6196]

Me other games with ray tracing:- hmmm ok it fine Me seeing Sa1 and gens getting ray tracing with a mod :- Sega this is called remaster or remake learn something from the fans.

[@Sonicfans1]

Oh yeah, I forgot about the Generations Raytracing mod. I’ll definitely be covering that once it comes out

[@tetrastreamxvii]

The lighting in the caves in the second phase of Emerald Coast did not scale well. It’s pitch black.

[@Sonicfans1]

To be fair, it would be dark in a cave if it has no lights.

[@tetrastreamxvii]

@@Sonicfans1 even lost world did something for that.

[@Sonicfans1]

Im referring to irl lighting. Caves are dark

[@DDRmails]

eat you heart, sega

[@Sonicfans1]

SEGA can be dense sometimes, but I like what I'm seeing for Shadow Generations

[@SwiftAsTheWind]

Don't you mean *open* your heart?

[@DDRmails]

@@SwiftAsTheWind yes, as patolaganatom.

[@blueblitz283]

A timeline where Sega is still in the console race

[@GameFactsSpecial]

It looks really cool close up and in Speed Highway. But it makes the sky look muddy or like a sand storm is happening in Emerald Coast. KInda makes the skybox look brown I guess is what I am saying.

[@Sonicfans1]

Oh damn, hey there. I loved your video on development history on Sonic 2!! As for the mod, it’s still being worked on by the developer.

[@GameFactsSpecial]

@@Sonicfans1 glad to hear it. Casino Night looks great too.

[@Sonicfans1]

Yeah, I love how that looks too.

[@RandomizationShow]

Absolute insanity. Thank you

[@Sonicfalcon16]

I wonder how well this would run with the dreamcast conversion mod

[@kiwirocket64]

Dude, I’m surprised you’re even recording at all and the game is running decently honestly! I’ve run Mario 64 with retracing and I barely get 30 FPS and that’s with like six lights max and the lowest resolution

[@Fenneccinos]

wow that looks way better than i thought it would. id deff do a full replay on this LOL

[@77PacerStudios]

This is what a remaster of Sonic Adventure should look like!

[@someguy3369]

This looks amazing

[@Sonicfans1]

Yep, but it's hard to run.

[@Thewaterspirit57]

Ok but the thing about this mod… do they actually use the RT Cores? 💀 Cuz this could just be a more fancy baked in shadows mod, with Bloom and reflections, all of which could be done on non-rtx GPUs.

[@SonicsGamingHub_YT]

What Sonic looked like on the Dreamcast commercials

[@ianmoises]

Imagine this with that mod that makes sonic look like the promo art :-O or those mods that make the whole game more modern

[@cronkinthehouse]

2:55 delicious Sonic Frontiers level of pop in

[@santyclos1302]

This is like looking through a glass window thoroughly cleaned with Windex

[@deathray252]

Ah, this is exactly how the game looks in one of my memories. I distinctly remember coming home from the beach as a young child in 2001, and while still lightly coated in salt and sand, popping on SA1 on the Dreamcast to extend the beach vibes in emerald coast. It looked basically identical to the beach I just came from to my kid brain

[@Ookami20]

I'm usually not a guy for graphics like it usually doesn't have any effect on whether I buy a game or not but when it enhances the experience of the universes I play and love like Sonic the little things just make it that much better. It makes me sort of more immersed. But also I do love just seeing old graphics it pleases me with nostalgia and all that and plus there are universes out there where that's how reality "looks"

[@TheAbeinG]

holy fuck the memories are coming back, this game is soo awesome !

[@dennj]

i guess i am in the minority because i honestly do not like the look. DX already broken the lighting of SA1, to me raytracing just highlights those errors. everything bright lol

[@guynamite_]

Getting some serious GTA Definitive Edition vibes with this

[@GreggoryHarris]

Man, I must be old if 1080p is considered low quality and necessary to apologize for.

[@Sonicfans1]

I usually upload at 1440p. 1080p gets compressed to hell, and to me looks really bad. 2k and 4k uses less compression in comparison

[@SlimeG935]

Crazy what lighting can do

[@GT3NB]

I do appreciate someone actually showing the levels and playing normally, as opposed to spin dashing every second, bugging out the game to cross gaps.

[@Sonicfans1]

I like to usually play games as intended, but I do like speed running

[@MrMartellSincere]

Looks fantastic with ray tracing on Sonic adventure

[@Sonicfans1]

It does!

[@TheBrazilRules]

Why are the tunnels so dark? Shouldn't at least a bit of light leak insde them?

[@Gamex-Frontiers]

Sonic Adventure remaster would be like….

[@HandlebarOrionX]

Looks glorious!

[@autohrap5884]

Walking/Running animation was at its best here… I never had a problem with charging the light speed dash

[@Sonicfans1]

I never liked having to charge up the light speed dash. I like how it's handle better in future games with the press of a single button

[@autohrap5884]

@@Sonicfans1 nah… it’s too boring to me…

[@LsAdventurer]

This looks so good!! 🤩 (too bad I don't have an RTX GPU or any GPU for that matter lol)

[@TripleHearts-hj4fq]

The Casino's Vault opening.... Is that what Millionaires felt like getting their first million? ❤❤😂

[@ssj3axll]

Imagine adding the Dreamcast Conversion mod to this mod 😲😲

[@madpistol]

This is how we thought Sonic Adventure looked on 9-9-99.

[@onthedre]

Dang, there was this HD texture pack uploaded years ago that updated the stage PVM's while not overdoing it. It's a pity I can't find the video anymore... would go nice with this mod.

[@Sonicfans1]

Do you have a link to the textures in question?

[@ZidaneTribal1989]

It's funny how you chose the 2 hardest stages to get A emblem on.

[@justinbarton8808]

It looks pretty good. Some of the lighter stages look a bit washed out, some of the lighter colored textures look too pastel like but other than that it’s a good start.

[@diegomedina9637]

Am I the only one who thinks these "RTX On" videos make the game look so much worse?

[@0ME96]

Yes

[@Ruthvi5]

yes

[@fuzzyraids]

It just needs better textures thats all

[@kaibrowsing]

We need games with this look

[@kkirby999]

could you imagine if an SA1 remake looked like this?

[@callmesnowboo]

its missing the raytraced reflections on the water :c

[@sonic-generationss]

Sonic adventure 👍👍

[@bluetornado3374]

This is what sonic adventure on xbox 360 and ps3 should look like

[@sauvagess]

This makes me wonder how it'd look with the Dreamcast conversion graphics. I know the original Dreamcast lightning isn't possible without an emulator, but I'm curious nonetheless.

[@Sonicfans1]

That mod is required for the mod to look the best, but don't use the lantern engine, as it breaks the visuals

[@benjaminkingbros6408]

Ray tracing on SA1 is very nice To rejuvenate old graphics

[@mochamanplays257]

This is how it looked back in 1998

[@orangespikeanimates4480]

I don't know but it feel wrong without the motion blur

[@rando_calrissian]

I was ready for more Reshade trash with that title, this actually looks alright.

[@Sonicfans1]

Yeah, I hate Reshade

[@odd0]

i honestly love this mod. hoping for updates that make it run more smoothly. i dont know what graphics card you have but i have a rtx 4060 ti and it jitters from 40 to 60 fps on medium settings. when i play things like portal rtx that also uses rtx remix it runs way smoother and consistently on higher settings.

[@Sonicfans1]

I have a RTX 3070. I ran the game at 1080p

[@SAN-cd1px]

Amigo juegas como un experto 👏👏

[@rjlakemusic]

it's funny because it looks amazing on emerald coast but pretty terrible on speed highway because of the way the lighting works in the game; emerald coast is all direct bright light, but speed highway has so few light sources that switching over to accurate lighting makes everything look dull and dim

[@spinikzoom]

Hey if you put this mod with mods that upgrade the issues and switch the textures and model for better one then you will have a sonic adventure remake

[@neo_ds]

honestly, it would be awesome if someone updated the prerendered light to look like that lol

[@skrellb9659]

Lol this is exactly what I'd imagine a remake would look like minus the characters

[@WumboJumbo96]

This is really cool except that with my 3060 this runs in slow motion on any setting other than ultra performance. Also some places like Final Egg are way too dark.

[@stolenalt]

Imagine the og with raytracing? 😮

[@chrissedberry5496]

is it strictly for use with RTX cards? I have a radeon rx 6600 with ray tracing... is the mod compatible with amd cards too?

[@Sonicfans1]

I’ll point out that AMD cards can run this, but I’m not familiar with Radeon cards. My suggestions is trying it out and see how well it runs. Press alt and X to mess with the settings and see what works for you the best.

[@chrissedberry5496]

@@Sonicfans1 okay, thanks!

[@IlIlllIIllllllllllIII]

@@chrissedberry5496 how was the perfomance i have the same card and i couldnt even start the game

[@chrissedberry5496]

@@IlIlllIIllllllllllIII havent tried yet, will report back asap lol

[@HAYABUS41]

OH YEAH! This is happenin'!

[@Sonicfans1]

huh? (police sirens in the distance)

[@mohamedalismacktalk382]

I hope sega remakes SA1 and SA2 like this.

[@johnsantos507]

No.

[@HeavyRaiden]

It's... it's beautiful

[@kingkazma3246]

Man, if this was the remake I wouldn't complain 😅

[@MarkMann1]

Lost World would probably be unplayable

[@yuki-zl7mr8dx3q]

I miss the lightspeed shoes from sa1

[@user-wj6jh1cd5n]

as someone who grew up with 1600x900 and then 1920x1080 monitors, it's really sad to see that 16:9 HD aspect ratios are now considered low quality.

[@Sonicfans1]

It’s more to do with how badly KZbin compresses 1080p video for people with low sub counts. People with higher sub counts get better compression, but it’s only viewable for people with KZbin Premium, which is really stupid. It’s why I upload all my videos in 1440p, which has better quality imo

[@user-wj6jh1cd5n]

@@Sonicfans1 Actually afaik the compression has to do with video age and view count. It's so KZbin can save server space without deleting millions of videos. The older and less viewed your video is, the more likely the algorithm will compress it. This video seems to be doing pretty well for it's age so I doubt the video's been compressed and it likely won't be for at least a few years. Take videos like Coppercab's "Gingers do have souls" for example. That video has barely been compressed over the years because it has millions of views. It also went viral when it initially came out, so it was always fairly safe from the compression algorithm.

[@Mermiam]

Damn lookin' good.