SAB Kraken 700 Maiden On Vcontrol

[@pgrcadventures1414]

People love to hate on Mikado but their Vbar Control paired with Neo or Evo gives you an amazing experience. Everything from programmability at the field to telemetry and data logs makes for the best FBL and remote combination for RC helicopters hands down.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I have definitely seen a lot of hating on the system but we all have to remember they were the first and pioneered FBL units so they definitely know what they are doing! It is a very nice system and I like the simplicity and how great it all goes together. It is very nice to be able to do everything right from your radio.

[@TheRcworld101]

Something about the sound of a 700 chopping up the air at low head speed just gives instant satisfaction... Nice flight Jeff

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I love low head speed flying on a 700. The blade chop is incredible!

[@Zachary77]

The only thing better would be the sound from an 800.

[@HeliShed]

Great flight WHRC!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I greatly appreciate it!

[@azrieltapias9510]

The moment I’ve been waiting for!!!! It’s great to see you dabbling with Vbar!!! Excited to see future videos!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I’ve been going back and forth for a while on getting one. I had a great opportunity to. I’m excited to do more videos on it as well!

[@AllanG1914]

Hi Jeff. Thanks for trying your best to answer KZbin comments even from videos posted months or years ago!!! Just subscribed on Patreon as a thank you.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you Allan! I greatly appreciate it! Feel free to send me messages on there. It’s easier than comments on KZbin.

[@toadiscoil]

So you drank the Kool Aid :) It's a great system. I have a Classic and really like it. The setup is fantastic and all the telemetry and integration features are top notch

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I did! Lol it is a very nice radio system and I am very happy with it so far.

[@craigbrett672]

YES!!! been waiting for you to try the VBar Jeff... awesome flight :)

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you!! I’m excited to play with Vbar, I’ve been going back and forth for a while now and got an opportunity to!

[@bertgarrison8317]

V-Bar rocks! Congrats on the maiden with Vcontrol

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! It’s a great radio and FBL. Looking forward to doing more with it!

[@simonsutherland814]

Nice fly and yes the radio also looks very 😎 cool.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! So far I’m happy with the radio!

[@RubenRC94]

Great video again! Just switched radios myself too. Went to a frsky x20s. Feel amazing and the possibilities are almost endless.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I had a X20S for a little while. It’s a very nice radio but was not for me. A lot of programming and I didn’t like the over all feel. Very nice radio but just was not for me.

[@RubenRC94]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 I have to get really used to the switches and positions of the switches. I would have liked them further apart. Swapped some of them around and that makes it better. The Vcontrol looks amazing too but was outside of what I was willing to spend.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@RubenRC94 the X20S is a incredible radio for the money Value. I think it is a really good radio and they have really stepped up their game big-time compared to their other radios. I did quite a few flights on it and the overall feel I just could not get used to since I don’t fly with a neck strap and I am a hybrid thumb/pinch flyer but! I did really like the radio and what you could do. Way better then the TX16S.

[@RubenRC94]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 yeah the Spektrum ergonomics are better. I also don't use a strap. Pinch on the collective side and thumb the cyclic. It's a little awkward to grip and access all the switches. But i think it helps that I have huge hands lol.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@RubenRC94 They did a fantastic job on the X20S, personally I think if they made the ergonomically it’s just a little better the radio would sell like crazy. I would’ve kept it. You get a ton of features for the price. I know they are also working on a full Helicopter template that should be out soon as well as better iKon integration.

[@heeder777]

On a side note, that’s a gorgeous flying site. I almost never get solo time over the runway at our field but then again I don’t put on that good of a show. 😂

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

It’s a beautiful field and definitely lucky to have the field to my self most of the time. It’s a small group of guys most of the time and we all give each other our time. A lot of 3D plane guys and they go have fun while I wait and then I’ll fly and they wait. Thank you! I’m not that good though lol

[@seanoc3533]

Yes!! Really happy to see you try v-control, hope to see more content with setup etc. I can help with that telemetry/ timer issue if you need. You dont fly a timer with v-bar you fly the battery percentage and land at zero.. so much easier and more accurate.

[@AllanG1914]

Would you set where you want 0% to be on the V Controller?

[@seanoc3533]

@@AllanG1914 yes. You use a battery app to tell the transmitter which battery you are flying every time you power up the fbl. You set the amount of capacity and how much you want to land at.. for example a 6s 5000 pack and you want to fly 70% land with 30%. The vcontrol then counts down during the flight by increments of 10% and you land at 0 (which is really 25% or 30%, whatever you prefer.

[@seanoc3533]

I should also add that you only have to save battery specifics once, but when you power up the model you tell it which saved battery you are flying.

[@AllanG1914]

Thank you!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

It’s about time I tired it! Happy so far. So this Heli has a Kontronik 200 and i didn’t have a sensor for it yet. One is on the way so I can get telemetry. So you don’t have a call out timer?

[@joefreas]

Fantastic video. And those flying skills! Any chance of you doing a video on the VBAR setup? I just got one and I have no idea what I'm doing. Installing it in a Whiplash turbine and figuring it out as I go. Your videos on the Spektrum and IKON were awesome. Without them I don't think those helis would be finished!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I greatly appreciate it. Yes! Full set up videos and reviews will be coming soon on Vbar. I set this one up just so I can get an idea did some playing around with the radio and now I am comfortable enough to make videos on it. I’m glad you find the videos helpful and useful!

[@dirkvanduijn4057]

Very nice controlled flying. slow(ish) and precise I like that. I also have a vbar Neo on order. Curious how it flies.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I like more slower big flying then smack 3D. The Vbar NEO is a great system and flys great! I’m normally a iKon person but really like the Vbar!

[@Gavs_rc_hobbies]

I've pondered getting a Mikado v-control, but since I fly planes as well, ill stick to my spektrum radio and MSH Brain2 flybarless systems.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I love my Spektrum/iKon setup. I am more than happy with it, but I will say the Mikado system is very nice. You can also use it on airplanes!

[@briansutter8612]

Will you do a future video on the set up with VBAR?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Yes I will! A lot more videos to come on it!

[@axelminet1095]

Hi, It would be interesting videos on the VBar control if you can. Review, Setup, ...

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I will be definitely doing more videos on it. Full setups, reviews all that good stuff!

[@axelminet1095]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 super

[@paulnelson5314]

I should have worked it out with yousending you my TB70, and accessories to sort out the set up.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

You can send me a email if you would like. It’s in the video description. The TB70 looks like a great model!

[@JJ20371]

I realy like the vbar touch with neo,fly 25years Futaba and otter brands butt realy like the vbct, no problems with Mikado support😊

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

So far I’m very happy with it. Super easy setup, rock solid performance.

[@gregnoble7755]

The plastic X antenna support that you put on this heli in the build video - are those included with the SAB Goblin kits or did you have to purchase those separately?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

One is included in every kit. If you want a second one you will have to buy that separately.

[@gregnoble7755]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 thanks!

[@AllanG1914]

Hi Jeff. On this Kraken running on the VBar, how are you running the satellite receivers? Is it just the Neo with it's two built-in attenas or did you use one of Mikado's satellite?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I’m just running the Vbar EVO with its antennas. Signal strength has been great.

[@DreCargill93]

Vbar primarily used for helis? Or do people use it with fixed wings/multi rotors?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

They are primarily used for helis but you can use them in fixed wing as well.

[@paulnelson5314]

I can even send a proper comment, lol. Looks good though Jeff

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you!

[@WhiteBarrett]

Nice flying Jeff! What was the damage and rebuild costs?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! So the Heli went on tail first at 2200 RPM. It was roughly $600 to rebuild. A lot was damaged.

[@tjuan7]

How did you mount the FBL unit on the heli?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

The included double sided tape onto the FBL Mount.

[@richard-fi8lx]

where can i get a omp m2 Swash Plate Leveler as cant see one any where

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I’m not sure, have you tried buddy RC? The M2 EVO comes with one.

[@Jason315NY]

can you do a vbar radio set up n programming vid

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Yes I can! I’m working on a bunch of videos with the Vcontorl.

[@AllanG1914]

One thing that may interest Spektrum users thinking of switching is the V Controller's switch where Spektrum Throttle Hold would be located. On V Controller, I think that's the toggle switch for rescue? If I'm wrong, that's great because then I can set it up like a Spektrum.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@AllanG1914 you can assign your switch’s and set it up like your spektrum radio. I’m going to go over all that in the review video.

[@roberthardy7868]

How would you compare the V-Bar to all your Spectrum radios? What make the V-Bar so special other than the high price?👍🧙‍♂

[@Twx97]

Just the ease of setup and use. Nothing else imo

[@MP422ownz]

The Vcontrol radio feels so much nicer than the spektrum which feels cheap. The best part about the control is the way it seamlessly works with the FBL and ESC... literally so cool when you plug in your helicopter and it turns on your transmitter automatically.... add up all those things it does so well and the ease of setup and flight tuning is next level.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

So it isn’t that much more than my IX14, but, the radio feels great. It’s a very solid radio that feels really natural in your hands. The balance of the radio feels perfect. The ergonomics and placement of the gimbals is perfect. No reaching into the stick corners. I love my IX14. It’s the best feeling radio spektrum ever made. the best part about Vcontrol is the ease of setup and tuning right from your radio and when you power up the model the radio turns on. No need for extra Satellites or receivers. Very simple telemetry. It’s a great system.

[@Twx97]

Man I’m pissed. I placed an order on the new evo, paid 100 eur for shipping. 3 weeks later not even a single update. Take in mind everything i bought is in stock. Mikado Germany is really the worst :(

[@tjuan7]

I agree! Did the same, no notification since then. They better ship it close to next day as possible when it does ship!

[@Twx97]

@@tjuan7 i emailed them like 2 weeks ago. they said that it will be shipped in a few days. after they never responded to any email. this will probably be my last mikado product because of this bad support.i have tried spektrum,futaba and frsky and none of them were as bad as mikado.

[@AllanG1914]

Mikado USA has a Facebook post on status today. I tried posting it here but KZbin deleted the comment -probably thinking it was Spam.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

That’s terrible, no emails or anything? They are definitely slacking on that. The USA store is very quick on shipping.

[@Twx97]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 not even a single reply sadly

[@04702c]

Just curious if you are still reachable at your email that is available on your page? Needed some direction

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Hey Chris, yes I am. I don’t always check it everyday and some times go a few days but I’ll look now.

[@04702c]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 thank you so much sir. Appreciate your response

[@04702c]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 great man. I appreciate you responding back .

[@jigglypuff4227]

How much was it in total to rebuild the helicopter? 300$?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

It was roughly $600 to rebuild. It was a bad crash tail in at 2200 RPM.