SABATON - Bismarck Reaction!!!

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[@deranged5322]

Nazi or not, the Bismarck was a very beautiful ship.

[@ivanzamolo3299]

Every time i hear this song, i go to WoWs to play Bismarck. Big mistake.

[@Darjeeling_Gup]

bismarck was porn of seas

[@BenHatira]

Most of the Wehrmacht had nothing to do with the Nazi's but they followed the orders of their nation ...but hey history is written by the winners ...

[@rem7262]

@@BenHatira that's history 🤷

[@mrwayne548]

As said with the Wehrmacht, the Kreigsmarine had a similar stance to the leading political party in the way that it was just a arm of the people and didn't believe itself fit to decide for the people just like the Wehrmacht.

[@thatwhichbinds1727]

-Over 2.8k shells were fired at Bismark -Over 400 shell impacted not to mention torpedoes -Only truly sunk when scuttled A true glorious monster of a ship.

[@BlackWACat]

kind of a shame in a way that it was the ship for the wrong war any other scenario, it would be absolutely fucking unbeatable

[@cykablyatthemovie2424]

BlackWACat I no shit 0-0

[@wayneachen3568]

The sinking wasn’t the saddest part of Bismarck’s story! Only 170 men survived while the rest that went in the water drowned. The British navy still says they left because they had enemy sub activity

[@BlackWACat]

i mean to be fair, they rescued 111 people from the sinking ship, and a u-boat *did* show up the next morning

[@hendrik4314]

@@wayneachen3568 while in hindsight they had enough time to rescue people, at the time they didn't know a submarine wouldn't be in the area until the following day since they did receive reports that the Admiral on the Bismarck requested for a submarine to take the logbook from intercepted radio messages. while possible that the u-boat would respect the British ships rescuing the sailors and maybe also picking up survivors as well, it was still a war and thinking this would be too optimistic (even though there have been similar scenarios in the war). in the end a captain is there to protect his own crew and ship first and foremost, so in their situation it is a correct action to abandon the rescue because of the risk.

[@Velkan1396]

"Because it's history I wanna be accurate and respectful." I don't know who you are man, but I already love you.

[@The_Pony]

[@Finkele1]

History is pretty well documented...at least last 200 years. I really don't understand why it shouldn't be told like it is?

[@Finkele1]

It doesn't really show USA in good light either...It's history!

[@classywolfie2270]

@@Finkele1 ...What does that have to do with anything? Back in school, here in the USA, I learned much of the USA's darker history. And I won't deny the dark parts of our past. If anything in my class in the U.S the instructor shat on the U.S more than anything else and glorified other histories (other than the holocaust) I mean fuck, the Soviet purges and Communist china killed MILLIONS more than the Trail of Tears or the Atomic Bombs could EVER do. But we Americans are the pinnical of evil here? No nation is without faults and flaws. No nation, no history, is void of dark events that we wish never happened. Even so, history should be told just as it happened. If that means telling of the darker parts of U.S history then fine. But that doesnt mean shit on the U.S like we're the most evil entity in existence.

[@tommyechoes3520]

@@classywolfie2270 You are right, but the politics in the world is fucked up. And as the superpower nr1 for almost 80 years or so the military presence around the world isnt really helping as it should. That goes for all western countries. The us has is like a punching bag cause its leading the western coalition.

[@Lonewolf8012]

I still Think the Nazi flag should be displayed, not from a pride POV, but in museum same with bust of Hitler and so on, history forgotten is history bound to be repeated! I dont care what people say, seing the real thing has ALOT bigger impact than Reading and watching a picture in a book

[@TheMk1997]

It's important to teach people what those symbols mean so we don't make the mistake of repeating the past.

[@fslolo6622]

ilivetotread well those symbol in theirs originally form where a symbol for the sun and good things to happen

[@Arklay_98]

Yeah I notice the nazi flag replaced with the iron cross in a white circle on a red flag all the time in video games. Kind of annoying from a history point of view.

[@Destructor240]

All Nazi iconography etc is allowed to be shown in an educational, historic or art context here in Germany. so its not forgotten or banned. if you go to a museum or watch a historic movie you will see the swastika etc. just not outside of those contexts. like video games. which are by those German laws not considered art or educational etc.

[@fslolo6622]

Geerash yea those guys really messed up that symbol... and today’s Germans have NOT made those decisions they have to as much with it as all today’s American have to do with the slavery in their country except the one who survived but those, if they made them self’s guilty are still condemned

[@EngelinZivilBO]

my great-grandfather died on the Bismark.. Fulfilling his duty with pride and I'm sure he had accepted his fate with his beloved ship

[@TheRCScotsman]

May he rest in peace. I'm British, but good men died on both sides.

[@EngelinZivilBO]

@@TheRCScotsman war knows no Nation, thanks Mate

[@astarothgaming1300]

I'm sorry yo hear that I'm sure he's happy to know he will never be forgotten!! Both sides had losses people tend to think that the allies are all righteous right not thinking of the other side at all and I saw may all find peace!

[@MetalCharlo]

War knows no nation. May he rest in peace.

[@aisthpaoitht]

Do you know where he was on the ship?

[@ivangushkov3651]

A few historical notes you might find interesting, as a Bismarck and naval warfare buff I would gladly share some cool info: 1) On battleships in general. These things were nation bankrupters. Constructing and loosing battleships was unthinkable for anyone but the world´s top nations at the time. Constructing and loosing a fleet of battleships would bankrupt every small economy of the era, and half bankrupt the big ones. Battleships were imagined as fighting in massive engagements by their constructors, but the Kriegsmarine (german navy) under WW1 adopted a philosophy called "fleet in being" created by german admiral Tirpitz (who has the best beard in history btw). The idea of a "fleet in being" was that the threat of the fleet was it´s main goal and not actually fighting, as risking loosing those ships even in a good engagement was too great. Germany had to adopt the fleet in being strategy, because they had the inferior navy. The British were supperior in that regard, but even they adopted the fleet in being philosophy after the battle of Jutland, the biggest naval engagement in WW1 and the only naval engagement of battleships on a massive scale. The British lost more ships at Jutland, but the germans lost a higher % of their navy, as they had fewer ships. Regardless, both fleets would stay at port for the rest of the war as loosing anymore would bankrupt their respective nations. Battleships are fucking insane if you think about them, very interesting subject. 2) On the Bismarck. The ship was made in violation of WW1 treaties, as the germans were allowed to only have 6 naval vessels of limited tonnage. This explains the "show of force" lyric in the song. Bismarck was a symbol just as much as it was a badass ship. 3) On the hunt of the Bismarck. This is one of the most gripping thriller stories in human history. The hunt for the Bismarck reads like a mystery novel, and has twists and turns which would seem unbelievable if they were fiction, but they really happened. Highly recommended to research the subject for anyone interested in this kind of stuff. Pure dumb luck sunk the Bismarck, as the Swordfish torpedo bomber made it steer in circles, just outside of the range of Luftwaffe (nazi airforce) support. Research that shit! 4) The unfortunate story of the swimming crew. After the fight there were hundreds of survivors in the water, but as the British were picking them up a german submarine showed up. The captain of the submarine no doubt wanted to help the Bismarck and had good intentions, but the British had to cut the rescue operation short because of the submarine. This is the main reason only 112 were saved. Very sad... Shit I gotta get up at 6 tomorrow, hitting the sack hope you guys found that interesting. Naval history buffs unite!

[@fslolo6622]

Fleet in being worked perfectly for Tirpitz, Bismarck’s sister ship after British saw how devastating Bismarck was they were scared to get near to Tirpitz and use lots of there navy to protect their convoys caus Tirpitz could show up, what she never actually did

[@ivangushkov3651]

@@fslolo6622 Great point! I think it´s fitting that the Tirpitz was a fleet in being ship of WW2 :D

[@jaylee5692]

i can't find it, but 700+ Germans were in the water

[@darkjester53]

A German submarine didn't show up but was expected to be under way. The Bismarck had sent a request for U-Boots for in worst case, for the ships records. It's suspected this has gotten picked up by the British who thought U-Boots where underway to attack the British ships, so they send an alert and they had to make a choice. Know that during that time the U-Boots were very frightening, having cost the British already much ships and personnel.

[@ivangushkov3651]

@@darkjester53 And I have read that a lookout spotted a periscope. Can you provide a source? Not because I doubt you, but because this is interesting to me. It makes sense, as the Bismarck was sunk at the time the British could decode enigma messages.

[@VulcanP90]

I would say that Sabaton's music is almost completely non-political and is more about the individual men and women who served and their stories.

[@eatenbyghouls1849]

The fan base knows its historical stuff not promotion They done a few songs about the topic about nazi germany The final solution Wehrmacht Ghost division Panzerkampf Rise of evil Uprising And more Some have lyrics from the perspective of nazi germany Others from the allies or civilians

[@BSEDarkman]

No bullets fly Hearts of iron

[@HALberdier17]

Panzerkampf is more about Soviet Union. Sure it features Nazi Germany but it is about their defeat so it is from the Soviet perspective.

[@mralireza931]

My favourite is "Hearts of iron". Makes you see the war from a totally different perspective.

[@SnakeP1tPoetry]

soldier of 3 armies

[@TheMk1997]

There are ways to teach history without glorifying atrocities committed by all world powers at the time.

[@markgoody4098]

Sabaton basically put historical facts /events to music...no taking sides ,just kick ass metal..waaaarrggghhhh :0)p.s ..put on bucket list to see live!!

[@obfish]

Seen them three times; they are great!

[@HALberdier17]

I need to see them. Their next North American tour is skipping my state completely. They have shows that are 2.5 and 3.5 hours away but nothing closer.

[@mralireza931]

they are amazing live

[@fslolo6622]

Douglas Show 2.5 hours wouldn’t prevent me from going there!!! I’ll see them at 8th of July in Germany 😄

[@HALberdier17]

@@fslolo6622 If I could actually drive yeah it wouldn't prevent me. But I never learned to drive a car so I would have to have someone take me. If I did know how to drive the only thing preventing me would be the fact that I have never been to that city in my life so I don't know my way around.

[@amontt]

It is not an apology to the Nazis, it only tells the story of the largest German warship built and its heroic battles. It also speaks of the fear and anger felt by the English for that ship, which even sent dozens of ships to sink it. And according to 2 oceanographic accounts, the British did not sink it, but it was the Germans themselves who decided to sink it so as not to lose their pride, since they had battled by the North of the Atlantic Ocean with many ships, in total they fired some 4000 times of which impacted about 400 and still had not sunk it.

[@hosshydraa1181]

No dude, over 40 battleships were sent to sink. The British Bi-planes went by the dozens, and only 3 torpedoes hit, and 1 of those 3 hit the propeller, sending the Bismarck into a giant circle where then all those ships fired upon it.

[@amontt]

@@hosshydraa1181 But according to Ballard and Cameron, of all the shots made by the English, they hit few. According to them (the oceanographers) the ship was not sunk by the English. They say that the moment they found him, the shots he received were not so serious as to sink the ship. according to Cameron, the Germans managed to escape once again from the English with the ship burned. And many of the English soldiers testify to that. The nearly 100 surviving soldiers of the Germans, at the time of their rescue, said that they sunk the ship themselves.

[@NoOneYaKnow666]

@@hosshydraa1181 By all modern accounts, the ship does seem to have been intentionally scuttled.

[@Pedantic_Brit]

From what I have read in the past I think it was going to sink eventually, but the scuttling sped that up.

[@tupixohoho8516]

@Hentai is an Art weebs lowest of the low shame

[@nicholaslawlor8623]

"In War there are no winners, only survivors"

[@fastrushman3294]

Navy is a tough job than air force and infantry... They were meant to live in iron rooms in middle of an ocean with low temperatures.... No one if it is enemy, they will help...

[@WhatDayIsItTrumpDay]

Vin, you are absolutely right about not erasing history. Anybody triggered by this video/song, or any other Sabaton song simply needs to get a life. The German Nazi War Machine while acting on a despicable M.O. was and is often admired for their fighting prowess and spirit. They fought to the last man even when their defeat was inevitable. Well, maybe not to the last man, as many thousands surrendered so they did value their own life, unlike their Japanese ally counterparts, but they fought with heart. Now then, where I stand on monuments like the Charlottesville Robert E Lee statue, is this, Robert E Lee was a product of his own era. Meaning that he was more loyal to his home State of Virginia. He was offered to command the Union Army by Lincoln himself, but he turned it down in favor of his loyalty to his state. Back then, people were more loyal to their states than to the nation as a whole, as we still had free states, and slave states. The nation didn't unite in war until the Spanish-American War in 1898.

[@ezequielmorales4221]

*claps violently* FINALLY SOMEONE WITH COMMON SENSE!

[@gorri9851]

In spain we still wonder why would you guys just declare war on us blowing up your own ship just to take all our colonies, well we know why, but we meme about it evrytime

[@dgsams]

@@ezequielmorales4221 In the same "boat"(heh) *clapping violently* I get SOOO tired/annoyed and frustrated by those who either A) State their OPINIONS as fact or B) Believe what they THINK is fact!!

[@Voimandiimon]

@@gorri9851 Yeah well, same as with the Vietnam war. The Iraq war. The US always lies to its citizens to get them into their wars. They didn't even take any sides in the second world war, before the Nazis messed with their trade. Of course the war effort then was finally painted as them coming to the aid of liberty and life and against Evil. It's just really weird how little the US citizens ever think about that stuff, and how much they have been lied to historically. It's just so amazing how much death they've dealt in the modern history, and still their citizens have this messed up way of seeing their country as somehow righteous. "American exceptionalism"...

[@asgardianprotector6917]

Agreed

[@countrytownify]

You should listen to Sabaton: Wehrmacht Rise of evil The final solution Hearts of iron And no bullets fly

[@thepiratepenguin4465]

Hearts of Iron has special meaning to me, as my Grandfather's family was among the few which managed to escape Berlin, thanks to the sacrifice of the 12th Army.

[@shortstuff780]

Rise of evil is one of my favorite songs ever. So dark yet so epic sounding

[@daschist1946]

AK V that’s my favorite of sabaton’s songs

[@derrhawor3061]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Ghost divison

[@suomilaava371]

@@thepiratepenguin4465 The soldiers of 9th and 12th army were heroes.

[@csears0824]

Sabaton deserves the success they have earned hopefully they will be around for a long time

[@suomilaava371]

Made me so happy to see Bismarck be 4th in the trending.

[@munky342]

Some of the Germans who were rescued have said in interviews that they were treated very well by the Royal navy. One interview I saw featured a German guy who said he is still very good friends with some of the British guys who rescued him. I can only speak as an ex British army soldier not as royal navy, but the comraderie you share with your "enemy" is there. You both understand what the other has gone through.

[@niggo.0300]

You probably know it already, but listen to "No Bullets Fly" by Sabaton, very much related to what you described

[@andrewfurey2999]

Most of sabatons discography is about military history and they always write the songs with no bias and just try to tell the story.

[@mosser-wm3dx]

even Verdun was non-biased. massive loss of life just in general

[@HALberdier17]

Sabaton asked fans what they wanted songs about since after their 2010 album, Coat of Arms. Bismarck was the most requested song. They couldn't do it for 2012's Carolus Rex because that was about Swedish history. They didn't do it for 2014's Heroes but they could've did it from the crew members perspective. It could've fit on 2016's The Last Stand but they didn't put it on it.

[@darkiee69]

It's a single in cooperation with world of warship.

[@HALberdier17]

@@darkiee69 I know I'm just saying what Pär from Sabaton said about the history of how the song came about.

[@ShiwaTheDrink]

The next album could be naval legends, that would be a glorius hit

[@HALberdier17]

@@ShiwaTheDrink The 2019 album is The Great War about WWI. The album after could be about naval warfare.

[@rashnar23]

@Juan T they have one but its not the perspective you want to hear (back in control)

[@ISAFMobius18]

Thank you World of Warships for creating such an amazing battle scene in the background.

[@MajesticDemonLord]

Yep - I love playing me some Boats.

[@BBgunX22]

The drummer of Sabaton is Floor Jansen’s husband. Just a little fun fact lol.

[@skykn1ght78]

Cool! I had no idea!

[@genesischampion9678]

It wasn't really risky for them to do this video, considering they did this video BECAUSE it was the most requested topic by fans. People WANTED them to do it.

[@probablynotdad6553]

Nice pfp

[@BelaM27X11]

What you need to know about Bismarck vs Hood is, that the Hood was THE pride of the Royal Navy and was blown up after just a couple of minutes. Add to that that one of the most modern and newly build ships of the RN took a massive beating and had to retreat really russled the Royal Navys Jimmies. Makes you understand why they threw everything at it, even the kitchen sink.

[@IIBloodXLustII]

It's funny, I'd like to think that a Swordfish literally dropped a kitchen sink on the deck of the Bismarck after reading your comment.

[@BelaM27X11]

@@IIBloodXLustII if it's stupid but it works, eh?

[@DMW-iq2ie]

@@IIBloodXLustII Well I mean in Vietnam, a U.S. Navy plane dropped a toilet on the North Vietnamese. I could see a sink happening.

[@mainlt9267]

Hood was built in 1916 and a different generation to the Bismark. It wasn't even a battleship,it was a battle cruiser trading armour for speed. That eventually led to it's downfall.

[@veronicawalker8473]

The kitchen sink... LOL yuo nearly killed me with that!! LOL

[@BallisticDrummer]

Did anyone else notice the watch, that the Captain of the Bismarck was engraving (grid coordinates), Taken by the sailor, And held buy the Captain of the Boat going out to find the Bismarck?

[@The_Pony]

YESSSS

[@Shukuyou]

Bernhard Heuer (the sailor that was rescued in the video), the last survivor of the sinking of the Bismarck, passed at the age of 95 on March 8th, 2018.

[@michaelf8556]

And the Captain of the boat in the vid is his son,....

[@Zagoreni02A]

Bismarck is on the the very top of the 5 best battleships to me. It is named after good man, Otto von Bismarck. It is shame that was built for Nazi Germany and had such short life. But Bismarck, been a battleship end his life in battle, as warship (if must) should do, and there is no greater honor then that. War is heartless and show no mercy to either side. It change lives. Respect to all who died at the battle of Atlantic on both sides. Rest in peace.

[@TheRadiag]

You should really do Sabaton - No Bullets Fly, its about a german fighter pilot who decided to not shoot a crippled bomber and escorted them to safety. I believe Vin mentioned this story in a video before

[@pontiacfan76]

There was a book written about called A Higher Call. A book I highly recommend.

[@shortstuff780]

I didn't know what that song was about. I usually do research of a song while it's on. But must have over looked that. I just read it up. And im that bright a tear to my eye. The salute and all. The fact they became friends 40 years later... That's so touching and sad. So deep. This has given me hope in society. Wow

[@pontiacfan76]

@@shortstuff780 they both died within a week of each other. If I recall the book correctly the Germans commanding officer told him if he heard or saw him shoot a pilot in his chute he would personally shoot him down himself. It's one of those stories you would find by mistake. There is a brief interview on KZbin between the 2 of them.

[@pontiacfan76]

@@shortstuff780 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHjdoXiEmceCnZI

[@obfish]

I love me some Sabaton! Try Cliffs of Galipoli, Ghost Division, To Hell and Back, so many more.

[@pandoraprojectx1473]

This is not the first song about German warfare by sabaton... Their song "ghost division" is about Rommel and his division of heavy tanks... A very powerful song and they look at it in a objective way

[@Futureal_Dio]

And the song wehrmacht is about hitlers reise to power

[@pandoraprojectx1473]

@@Futureal_Dio and the song Wolfpack about the Kriegsmarine that attacked an allied convoy

[@sirboomsalot4902]

And there is Hearts of Iron, about German soldiers at the end of WWII, and we can’t forget The Final Solution

[@Futureal_Dio]

Rise of evil is about Hitlers rise to power an Wehrmacht is about the german army

[@ironstarofmordian7098]

No Bullets Fly is a great example of that's strange friendship enemies can feel when the war is over.

[@fslolo6622]

Jorge Warcrimes and even in the war Celebrating Christmas with the Enemies for example wasn’t rear, or how that film showed, don’t know its name but was in First World War and is after a true story is about a horse... whatever soldiers of both sides decided to stop fighting for a time to save that horse which was stuck in barbed wire

[@robfromjersey7899]

Love this song! Sabaton is always a good choice. I recommend 40:1 or The Last Stand.

[@arno_groenewald]

And every nation had shady stuff that went down under the sheets Its Eugen NOT Eugene Pronounced Oi-gun And American Armoured forces use the tactics the German army used, tactics that was made and molded by Rommel; the desert fox And having respect towards your opponent in war is a sign of worries honor. The rejoice of your ship's armament hitting its mark is something or was appropriate because of how hard it was for shells to hit home. And in a documentary of The hunt for the Bismarck, one of the survivors said that at the moment the hull of the HMS Hood buckled and got torn in half, the crew of Bismarck rejoiced for their victory, but it was short lived as the horrific feeling of horror to what happened to the crew of the Hood dawned on them and the horror of that moment are equally scaled on both sides who had survived that engagement that day/s.

[@avisschatte6435]

@Kopsu well.. germany had the nazis, the uk had the colonies and their crimes against the natives, the usa had various wars which might not have been necessary, also the slavery, which most nations are guilty of, then the soviet crimes in russia, the genocide of the armenians in turkey... yes, you could say that at least every nation which was somewhat important has had some shady stuff going on.

[@raydafuq3570]

@Kopsu If you research I guarantee you you'll find something everywhere.

[@samueldavidbatistaruiz7510]

@Kopsu oh boy, yeah, you would be surprise.

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@avisschatte6435 But none of them holds a candle to the war crimes committed by the Nazis. If you guys want to go on about how not all Germans were evil, go ahead, but stop downplaying Nazi atrocities by saying that "everyone did it" when, clearly, no one before or since has ever replicated the pure carnage of the holocaust.

[@avisschatte6435]

@@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa well for one I havent defended the nazis in any real way, i just did say that the nazis werent the only ones committing warcrimes in the past. that is not romanticising the nazis,or rather the holocaust. It is a simple statement, replying to the comment by @Kopsu. As for your statement about how the warcrimes done by the nazis are the worst in history, that is debateable. In recent history, they should be, however if you take a look at crimes against the human rights, such as the labour camps in Northkorea, or those in China, it isnt to far away from the nazis. Also, as in the matter of genocide, look at the armenians/ turks. Sure, what the nazis did was horrible, should never be repeated, and, above all, unforgivable. But at times, try not to overlook the mistakes done by other countries, they are not necessarily better. Belgium e.g. killed some thousand natives in their colonies. so did the uk, so did the second german reich. The soviet also killed many people, the americans intervened in wars and during the fight even worse enemies emerged. Of course, they started with maybe the best of intentions. so well. Do i romanticise? not really.

[@alexamerling79]

My favorite song period. To rule the waves and lead the Kriesgmarine!

[@RazorbackX99]

Props to you two, for actually understanding the background of this song and the facts it's expressing.

[@jeremy.s651]

I am German/ Irish. Descent people say bad things about Germany back then, it makes me cry as I type this not all was for Adolf Hitler. A lot of soldiers was against him but during that time you serve or you died. People say why did they not go against him? Because those that did was shot an killed. Germany is a great country it was held hostage by a mad man.I remember when I was young my grandma told me during that time people look at my family as says.my grandmas family came from Ireland. Its like wow back then German an irish was treated like third class citizens in the USA. So I understand everything in this country, even though they see me as a white man.even though almost all the girls I been with is black an Hispanic. A,n in my whole life when it it came to friends have been black an Hispanic.just saying people judged to quick.but you guys rock 👐👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@ShadyLurker84]

And a lot of Germans DID go against him. Hitler survived several assassination attempts by fellow Germans and even officers in his own army tried to murder him. Most notably Henning von Tresckow, Claus von Stauffenberg and the 20 July Plot.

[@medeispagan]

Real hero Stauffenberg... "The population is an incredible mob, so many Jews and hybrids. It is a people who feel good only under a whip. Thousands of prisoners of war will serve us well in agricultural work"

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Most Germans were Nazis. That's just a statistical fact. Stop pretending like Hitler was some strange exception and that all Germans hated him. Not every German was a Nazi, but most were.

[@timothyhhh3485]

@@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa "Statistical" you're completely and almost blatantly wrong. Germans have voting record and political party membership records of the time, and the NSDAP in Germany has never managed to exceed 37% of the population in votes or party membership (that was during Hitlers reign,and with voting manipulation included) So No, most Germans were not and never have been Nazis.

[@masterx-men3149]

Man I love and appreciate your analysis and historical comments so much! You are so right with everything! I love to see how you argue from each point of view

[@phillytheflyerable]

do wolfpack! about the ww2 submarines. 40000 people served fo submarines in ww2, less than 10000 returned

[@goldenhedgehog9]

Wolfpack is specifically about the OSS Convoy-92 tragedy/blunder.

[@mosser-wm3dx]

@@goldenhedgehog9 wolf pack is just a doctrine. it can be employed or not in a variety of situations.

[@DanShiraz]

I like the perspective you're taking Vin... History is history and at the end of the day we have to learn from it.. Sabaton does a brilliant job of encompassing the history from all sides.. at the end of the day there are countless accounts of soldiers at war finding solace with their counter parts who they've tried to kill but found themselves reconciling with once the smoke settled...

[@ControllerOfMinds]

#Vin AndSori : Just sent you guys a message over Messenger (Fb). Sabaton is coming to North America together with HammerFall (Swedish Invasion!). Hoping you read this. Both bands are great live! Thanks for your reaction and great analysis!

[@chrisbudberg8769]

Thnks guys. So glad you did this. I get chills listening and watching it. We cannot forget the world's history . All of it good and bad. I agree with vin. This is not meant to take sides or grorify the war. The video is like a mini movie and what a great song. Sabaton is so good and I love that you get a history lesson from their music as well. Great job .. have a great week all.in my opinion this is one of your best reviews to date. And you have a lot of good ones .

[@PaxIesus]

Furthering the notion that there were good men in Germany, the Admiral in charge of the Bismark's task force - Gunther Lutjens - was one of a few officers who wrote a letter to the naval commander-in-chief, protesting the Krystallnacht. He refused to deliver the "heil" salute when Hitler came to inspect his ship, instead offering him a naval salute. By all accounts, he seemed to be a good man who thought his nation had been dealt a bad hand.

[@ralphdougherty1844]

Pax Romana Lutjens and Lindemann were known anti-nazis as were the majority of the kriegsmarine personnel. They viewed Hitler as a fool who had no idea about naval warfare (which was true) and held the nazis in contempt for their misuse of the navy.

[@PaxIesus]

@@ralphdougherty1844 very true!

[@jesseusgrantcanales]

Awesome trivia: The captain of the boat that took the band out to sea, was the son of the last survivor of the Bismarck, the survivor was meant to be in the video but was in failing health, his son then took his place.

[@murraywatts2699]

As tragic as the loss of life on the Bismarck if you look at the percentages the HMS Hood was worse. Out of 1418 crew on the Hood only three survived.

[@o484]

The crew of the Dorcetshire treated the Bismarck survivors very well. One survivor even claimed "that's how you treat friends, not foes."

[@thetacochannel8817]

SABATON HAS GOTTEN TO ALL ROUND TENS IN A ROW HELL YEAH

[@db2337]

I would recommend listening to “no bullets fly” because that is exactly what you are talking with the comradery between opposing a German BF-109 pilot lost his brother earlier in the war but saved a B-17 that was badly damaged and escorted it and the wounded crew back to safely.

[@GummiAnd]

the Allies meant to save more from the waters after the battle, but they received a warning about German uboats closing on them so they had to retreat.

[@thomasulverski]

Picking up sailors from sunk ship was and is part of sea code. No mater if they are allies or enemies, if it's war or it is peacetime. It's duty of all ships and crews that are near damaged/sinking ships. After sea battle fleet that won the fight often sent some of their smaller ships to patrol the battlesite to help all of survivors.

[@survivor-3572]

The Price of a mile. Sabaton

[@stenbergskij101]

I like how he reasons about the whole thing. Love from Sweden

[@Simbstah1]

On the topic of comradery, sabaton - No bullets fly, Amazing song that shows how many of the pilots of the world war felt .

[@spedwyrm7427]

Out of the two thousand sailors that were stationed on the Bismarck, 115 survived. The sea captain that leads the band out in the open water was the last living survivor from the crew of the Bismarck. A gentleman by the name of Bauer, he died just this past March at the age of 95.

[@MravacKid]

Military branches such as the navy usually have their separate code of conduct, when they sunk an enemy ship and weren't in danger of attack they'd usually help rescue the enemy sailors, or at least radio their position so their side can come and rescue them. There's even the tale of the captain of the US battleship Missouri ordering the remains of the kamikaze pilot that struck the ship to be buried at sea with full military honors. Or the one where a German fighter pilot escorted a damaged allied bomber to safety. All true.

[@fslolo6622]

MravacKid or in case of Bismarck the British rescued them till submarines been sighted like showed in the video

[@justitia257]

There are songs like this that are absolutely perfect. Ciao e Grazie ragazzacci

[@xulunknown]

I would definitely recommend listening to hell and back or cliffs of Gallipoli 2 of my favourite songs from sabaton.

[@LojakZeRo]

To be clear, the Kriegsmarine (Navy) were not Nazi's. They were one of 3 branches of the Wermacht (The Armed forces of Nazi Germany during WW2) along with the Heer (Army) and the Luftwaffe (Air Force). It's a common misconception that everyone that fought for Germany during WW2 were Nazi's, the vast majority were not. Most were ignorant of the horrors the SS were committing. They were just soldiers fighting for their homeland. You guys are right, even soldiers of opposing nations very often show respect to the enemy, there are some amazing stories from WW1 and WW2 of this, particularly around Christmas and New Years.

[@svenheuseveldt7188]

You two have to react to the final solution. If I recall coreclty it's about the holocaust and Auswitch. not the happiest song you'll hear but very touching and an awesome overall. My first and fovarite song of Sabaton.

[@perfectlybalancedasallthin9319]

That song, along with A Lifetime of War is probably the only songs that actually made me tear up. Truly wonderful songs about tragic events in history.

[@svenheuseveldt7188]

@@perfectlybalancedasallthin9319 You forgot The Price of a Mile :(

[@perfectlybalancedasallthin9319]

@@svenheuseveldt7188 Unfortunately, whilst it was certainly a sad song, it just didn't have the same emotional impact for me as the other two songs mentioned before...

[@sirboomsalot4902]

There is also the little known Sabaton song “The Hammer has Fallen”, which is basically just a compilation of dying soldiers final thoughts

[@Frankenberry]

Hope you guys see this all this time later... But I just had to drop in and Thank you for introducing me to Sabaton. I discovered them through your reaction video to "Carolus Rex".... And now I'm absolutely in love with them lol. So... Mad props to ya..

[@TheRCScotsman]

The Nazis were evil. The German sailors who served their country were not. It's not so much the camaraderie between opposing sides, but a deep respect, honour, sense of dignity and mutual understanding for your enemy... especially for Naval personnel; as they are further bound by the battle against Mother Nature, against the storms, the waves, the unyielding power of the sea. The connection they have transcends nationality. (I am a sailor, myself, so have experienced this). As far as rescuing German sailors out of the water is concerned; that was commonplace. During the war, the Allies saved German sailors and vice versa. The ships themselves were the target, not the men on-board. The Bismarck was sunk, the guns silenced, the threat removed, so the sailors were, for that moment, no longer "the enemy", they were just drowning men. Men of both sides would live out the war as POWs, but were not tortured and were generally well treated. It was considered dishonourable to let drowning men die. The Royal Navy would have stayed longer and rescued more of Bismarck's crew, but U-Boat packs were closing-in and so the fleet had to leave the area. There was heroism on both sides, never forget that. Hans Langsdorff, Captain of _Admiral Graf Spee_ , for example, was a great man.

[@alexmax3502]

More people should read this.

[@brane4859]

Langsdorf was known for respecting his prisoners (or however you call that in the navy) and was thus greatly respected by his adversaries.

[@medeispagan]

German sailors, soldiers, housewives, etc. They were all Nazis. Nazis ... they were Germans.

[@brane4859]

Not all Germans were. Surprisingly, one of the reasons Abwehr was so ineffective was that many anti Nazis worked there.

[@macedonianfighter6987]

The national socialists weren't evil on purpose,they were highly practical.Germany was crumbling and the inflation was skyrocketing-They took over,united the germans via eliminating their political enemies and fixed that. The now booming economy needed a bigger market-the anchluss was the solution. However,that made the allies start gearing up for war,and the best option was to start the war even though their own army wasnt ready yet. The warmachine needed workers,so they emprisoned other peoples,like the jews and slavs to work.. Every "evil" thing they did,given the circumstances,was the reasonable thing to do,and was done only because it benefited the german people

[@steelstanding8005]

Tnx for a reaction channel that reflects a bit deeper than all the others out there.

[@robinhopf4580]

i am so thankfull for you too say that not all gemans were Nazis i em from germany and it kind of pisses me off that everyone things like we were all nazis

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Not all Germans, but most.

[@Wuestenkarsten]

I agree to 100%, I am a German myself. And we also have good Guys like Georg Elser or Admiral Canaris in that Time Period...

[@mickaellundgren6390]

One small thing, note that the singer constantly says He about Bismarck. The reason for this is that Bismarck's commander Admiral Günther Lütjens considered Bismarck to be too powerful to be "she", but the foreboded vessel was called as "he"

[@slopedarmor]

I like their song Stalingrad (among many others), it paints the picture well enough, and they do something interesting with the lyrics. Lifetime of war & Swedish Pagans are also nice songs. edit: poltava and long live the king are also F good shit. Also PS, the sabaton bismarck video has lyric subs : p

[@maxviking3210]

A little late to comment, and I am sure someone mentioned it.. but if not.. This video was released one year after the last survivor of Bismarck had died and the man with the boat and the compass is the actual son to the last survivor.

[@mjolnir_swe]

You're an american but your insight in European history is better than that of most europeans. Respect dude.

[@lenasoderberg4653]

not if you listen to Sabaton music. There historychannel is nice

[@jamesharvey3993]

The whole scuttling business has been heavily contested, as the Bismark was reported to have capsized directly following the impacts of three torpedoes. There is and always has been a strong camaraderie between sailors, especially those of the British Royal Navy and the old Prussian culture of the Kriegsmarine. The Dorsetshire only turned away from picking up survivors after a German U-boat was reported in the area. The German POWs were consistently treated extremely well in Britain, with many even living with British families and working on farms. Great video guys!

[@danielcastilla460]

Sabaton Ghost Divison

[@studuckson]

Daniel Castilla Live Woodstock Poland.

[@danielcastilla460]

@@studuckson and then 40:1 Live

[@studuckson]

Daniel Castilla 🤘

[@johannespettersson821]

At about 10:00 when you talked about this comrades for enemies.. They have a song about when a german pilot escorted an american heavily damaged plane to safety, really one of the most beautiful stories of ww2. No bullets fly its called, newly relelased animated music and story video on their channel.

[@zhoutai80]

Sabaton-No Bullets Fly

[@malcolmmacmillan2169]

My Dad fought The Bismarck from HMS Victorious, one of 2 Carriers there. In the great video the captain of the Sabaton boat was the rescued Kriegsmarine sailor with the compass. Most miss that.

[@eatenbyghouls1849]

Sabaton-winged hussars

[@KONSACZ]

Sabaton - The Last Stand. Its totally must listen for this channel.

[@Aca90czv]

Sabaton - Last dying breath

[@milanbinesko2627]

Ritam Nereda

[@milllosh]

@@milanbinesko2627 Sunshine - Iza Horizonta

[@The_Pony]

hopefully you guys get to talk to Sabaton one day. :) I'm so glad you enjoyed it, guys. I told you it was awesome!

[@MDMetal]

The lead singer looking like Chuck Liddell is Joakim Brodén. The guys on the A&P Reacts channel have been saying the same thing for years. lol

[@Pega5us2400]

Ufc

[@Otis43155]

The guy helped up at the end was the captain sailing the ship that the band was on... he's meant to be 1 of 3 survivors from the HMS HOOD which sank in 3 minutes after a lucky hit in one of the ships magazines. 1415 sailors died as the HOOD sank. There were 3 survivors from that wreck. The British ship picking up survivors left hundreds behind because they spotted a German U-boat and to avoid getting sunk as well they abandoned the remaining sailors in the water.

[@davthespaz]

Sabaton - The Cliffs of Gallipoli. Make it happen!!

[@Korrakh]

Realy realy nice reaction thank you very much for sharing your views :)

[@shapeshifter7676]

You should listen to more Sabaton and start with "No Bullets Fly"

[@detskalldaltas133]

Love to see the reaction when ppl hear and see SABATON!

[@zaynekauffeld2073]

DOOM (2016) OST RIP AND TEAR Attempt #1

[@sallbanjoman1790]

and bfg division aswell

[@gordon8282]

Beautiful couple .. beautiful review ..Ppl who forget history tend to repeat that history .. thank you Sabaton .. Thanks to the Ops here ..

[@kjetilknyttnev3702]

In a town in France during WW2, the allied and the nazis ceased fighting and celebrated christmas eve together, before going back to fighting the next day.

[@FrancoUnAmericano]

Are you sure you aren't thinking about WW1?

[@suomilaava371]

@@FrancoUnAmericano I remember it being WW1 too tbh...

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Kjetil, there were only two world wars. How the fuck can you get them confused?

[@HenriqueRJchiki]

That was in WW1, and was in much more places not just a town

[@gnipacave]

You commented about the sailor being helped aboard the ship, if you notice the camera pans down to the pocketwatch he is holding and then the next frame is the captain of the ship they are playing on as he closes a pocketwatch. One could maybe assume he is the same sailor.

[@firefist906]

please react to the new sabaton song "fields of verdun"

[@phillipking2603]

I almost joined the Navy when I was younger and one of the things I knew especially in the world wars, after a ship was sunk it was the opposing ships duty to rescue fellow sailors who had survived. Not saying that always was the case but it shows the true colours of war, good and bad.

[@RadarLightwave]

Come on guys, you're saying "it's a Nazi ship" like it's super controversial. Not really compared to - The Final Solution.. Which this very same band does. React to that song, then you can talk controversy. =^P

[@obliong]

The final solution is a beautiful song. It doesn't glorify anything, it reminds of us what can happen and has happened.

[@surchris]

If you care for more trivia, the HMS Hood sunk by Bismarck on 24 May 1941, had a complement of 1418 men. 3 survived. HMS Hood was the Royal Navy's largest ship till about 1938. Hood had participated in the destruction of the French fleet in North Africa. The British believed Hood was invincible, it was a shock to hear Hood sank. HMS Prince Of Wales, retreated from this battle with the Bismarck. A few days after Pearl Harbor on the 10th of December 1942, Prince Of Wales and the battle cruiser HMS Repulse, were sunk by Japanese aircraft off the coast of Malaya.

[@varnasblade]

Listen to Wehrmacht it's a very interested perspective on the German Army

[@c.brewer1222]

i have always felt that was their most thought provoking song. it touches a nerve in most rational thinking people, or it should.

[@varnasblade]

@@c.brewer1222 it really does especially the Latin lyrics

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@varnasblade The latin lyrics are meaningless gibberish, like they are in most of Sabaton's songs. I don't know why but they've never been able to actually get Latin right

[@varnasblade]

@@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa the reason it isn't perfect is because Latin has changed a lot but the rough translation is "To Victory, from the Machine not for myself but for the Fatherland." It may not be proper but no country speaks Latin anymore so they have to do what they can.

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@varnasblade There are fluent Latin speakers, you do know that right? Sabaton's latin is mostly gibberish because it seems that they usually use Google Translate or something like that rather than talking with people who speak Latin

[@jimforehand7571]

Much respect to you there for speaking the truth there Vin

[@jproffitt2192]

You guys should check out Windir - Journey to the End

[@Arkki11]

I think it is very important to remember and preserve all history, even if you don't like it.

[@dustinmanning8003]

Robert E Lee wasn't like Hitler Understand the time period... Had Robert E Lee been born in modern times he probably would agree slavery was a shameful mistake and probably would be a feared and respected general in the modern U.S Army. Interesting alternate history topic but statues commemorate heroic people or acts and is a sentiment to the honor and memory of said person or acts. Robert E Lee and the rest of the rebels had one major objective...defend the South from invasion... I encourage you to study his battle plans...he knew if he failed it was game over and his plans displayed that strongly. He was also loved by his troops because he was a gentlemen and held a lot of esteem and respect for those under him. Hence one of his famous orders "Take the hill if practical" As for racist flags... The rebel flag stands for southern heritage and liberty. Not hate or racism Just because ignorant imbred beer bellied cousin fuckers fly a flag to hate on others don't mean that's what all whites are about. I got family down south and that makes me part Southern... I had family fight and die on both sides of the civil war so I also fly that flag to honor those that wore grey. Great vid, great song, great band! Peace be with you, God Bless, 420 blaze it up and get baked mutha fucka!

[@badbirdkc]

Oh, please. Robert E Lee was a traitor and a slave owner who wanted to preserve slavery, as did the south. The "Rebel" flag is the flag of traitors who waged war against America and caused the deaths of 600,000 people.

[@dustinmanning8003]

@@badbirdkc I was taking you seriously until I looked at your name. Warms my heart to see the trolls are still around on KZbin though but those days are behind me.

[@badbirdkc]

@@dustinmanning8003 Hmm... Don't know what my name has to do with with your revisionist history of Lee, the flag and the confederacy.

[@dustinmanning8003]

@@badbirdkc Revisionist? Lol You some kinda fucking libtard?

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

The "Rebel" flag is the flag of an armed insurrection against the United States. Robert E Lee and his entire gang were traitors, by the literal definition of the word. I don't get why self-proclaimed American Patriots spend most of their time defending traitors.

[@tiaandeyzel2728]

Those drums at the beginning and the guitars always gets the peoples biggest reaction

[@ay0vee978]

They didn't mentioned HMS Hood pride of the Royal Navy, only 3 Seamen survived. Vice Admiral Lancelot Holland was last seen on his command chair going down with the ship. The Admiral on Bismarck was killed in the bridge it.

[@samhane301]

I really appreciate this reaction of this video as it is. War has no heroes, as it only brings the worst out of everybody involved in it. No matter nation... Hopefully we won't forget how & utterly terrible war is for anyone who has to live or suffer their life within it.

[@1oldgit]

In the video the young sailor rescued is the fishing boat captain and the engraving on the pocket watch is the position in the Atlantic of the Bismark. If HMS Hood had thicker deck armour she would have been well matched against Bismark but she didn't and was destroyed by Bismark plunging fire. Great song/video... Sabaton are a fantastic band especially with their historical /war theme.

[@gertlowenhamn9746]

Don't miss the compass story in the video. The captain of the fishing boat is the actual son of the survivor that got the compass with the inscribed coordinates from bismarcs dying captain. Kriegsmarine is german for navy...

[@Yvory6]

I understand what you mean when you talk about camaradery, it happened more at sea and air. You get to respect your enemy cause as a soldier you know well what he's going trough too.

[@grantshearer5615]

No matter how many times I listen to/watch this video, I always get chills from the 2nd verse till the end

[@freeway60love]

I love your guys' take on this.

[@make_m_finland]

Nice analysis and consideration ....Again. Thank you for this!