Senzo Meyiwa Murder Trial | 24 January 2024

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The Senzo Meyiwa murder trial will continue in the high court in Pretoria. Lead investigator - Brigadier Bongani Gininda is on the stands. Five men are currently on trial for the soccer star's 2014 murder.
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@zaka3956
@zaka3956 8 ай бұрын
Mongemezule is underrated He's one of the best lawyers in the country
@bellaanyone
@bellaanyone 7 ай бұрын
in your dreams 😂
@zaka3956
@zaka3956 7 ай бұрын
@@bellaanyone u killed senzo shut up
@zondanibenjamin3820
@zondanibenjamin3820 8 ай бұрын
I dont understand why people are praising Gininda...😢 Adv Mngomezulu initiated Brig Gininda to read the affidavit of which the state prohibits reading it... Here i give Adv Mngomezulu man of the day....
@Masela_Medias
@Masela_Medias 8 ай бұрын
Because Gininda is well spoken, that's why
@nosiphodlaminip
@nosiphodlaminip 8 ай бұрын
Exactly Gininda and baloyi didn't want the docket to be seen
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 8 ай бұрын
Fully agreed with you all credit goes to MNGOMS n not GININDA he was forced to read the statement
@gugundimandenare7969
@gugundimandenare7969 8 ай бұрын
Gonna made the Affidavit available hence Mngome knows about it, no rocket science.
@gugundimandenare7969
@gugundimandenare7969 8 ай бұрын
Gininda
@ozziedube2854
@ozziedube2854 8 ай бұрын
Everyone is praising Gininda bt without Mngomezulu pushing harder you would have not had anything about Kelly Khumalo and everything said by Gininda ,if you were listening yesterday after judge ruled dat statement must be read with all the names !!😂😂Gininda said yeses !!!big up to Mngomezulu you are the King
@nette2144
@nette2144 8 ай бұрын
If I remember well, Gininda didn't want the names to be mentioned, right? Judge then said "read it all, I don't want secrets" - 😂😂😂. They may have to arrest the girl now..Wonder why Mngome said it must be read?
@lesegokgotlhang6434
@lesegokgotlhang6434 8 ай бұрын
This guy has exposed his clients and the question is whether this was an intentional strategy that they can't go down the drain alone?
@kellybasic7210
@kellybasic7210 8 ай бұрын
​​@@lesegokgotlhang6434if his clients truly didn't write the confessions, they were just forced to sign then gininda is the person of interest. He wrote the confessions and subsequently an affidavit to corroborate the story. Author of the affidavit and author of the confessions. Maybe that's where he is headed, to prove the confessions were already written and accused were assaulted to sign
@Thabzalzk
@Thabzalzk 8 ай бұрын
That statement was written by Gininda and was disclosed to defence long ago. It was never hidden so how come u say we d never have heard about it. As I/O he was just worried that people will hear their names on TV without proper processes
@Sibongumusantshangase
@Sibongumusantshangase 7 ай бұрын
I will still "big up" Gininda. He brought everything with him to Court because he knew it was possible to be asked for such. Any lawyer could have asked him to read it out. And, he's the only person who seemed to be recording every occurrence. 90% of the state witnesses mostly could "not remember". He is the only person who remembers!
@Kgomotsomalems2364
@Kgomotsomalems2364 8 ай бұрын
Lets give Gininda Bells ngiyakuvuma wazi izindaba zakho 1
@gladysmkhize4085
@gladysmkhize4085 8 ай бұрын
Yes, he can be a minister of police
@ncediletusile7821
@ncediletusile7821 8 ай бұрын
Yey! this man I respect him too, he knows his story
@elizabethmahlangu4680
@elizabethmahlangu4680 7 ай бұрын
And Mina lapho bengisure ukuthi wuye u Mastermind
@ncediletusile7821
@ncediletusile7821 7 ай бұрын
@@elizabethmahlangu4680 Cabanga
@stanleykhumalo5158
@stanleykhumalo5158 8 ай бұрын
This case is taking a new twist thank you to Mr Gininda
@sbusisondlovu4342
@sbusisondlovu4342 8 ай бұрын
1 Million dollar question is that with such confession and evidence implicating Kelly, why the warrant of arrest was not issued from 2020? What more evidence was required from the evidence we have had today? Why was the full recording of this affidavit was always hidden to the public? Waiting to here tomorrow why Mngomezulu insisted that it must be fully read.
@lilywilliammokholoane
@lilywilliammokholoane 8 ай бұрын
Ginindas interpretation is coherent and accordingly represent broperbility theory paradigm. We should be having many Ginindas...
@baebooi5885
@baebooi5885 8 ай бұрын
Gininda the Brigadier himself!Well done Boss! You have done a great job!..Senzo is smiling from his grave looking at you fighting for his justice..
@dannym7593
@dannym7593 7 ай бұрын
Gerry Nel knew what he was doing when he recommended Gininda to investigate this case. Now all this KZbin wannabe lawyers are deceiving the public with their conspiracy theories. Let the law takes its course.
@sbusisondlovu4342
@sbusisondlovu4342 8 ай бұрын
What was the reason for Adv Mngomezulu to insist that the full sworn affidavit must be read before the court? We have noticed that the state (prosecutors) and Judge were too protective to the name implicated to this affidavit, thanks to Adv. Mngomezulu. Yooohhh I wonder what going to happen next, days of "UKUDLALISA ISINQE" are numbered to someone.
@bhekicele7661
@bhekicele7661 7 ай бұрын
They getting exposed, we see who’s being protected by state and cops here, why if implicated is she not arrested?
@SonOfTheSoil834
@SonOfTheSoil834 8 ай бұрын
This case has proven that the average population is actually below average .Weldone to the part of state that had to crack this case against all odds 👏🏿👏🏿
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 8 ай бұрын
Cracked what?😅😅😅
@thandekamgijima1871
@thandekamgijima1871 7 ай бұрын
So why Kelly was not arrested How longwe manege to escape the suspect that was standing outside How did kelly khumalo cell phone endup to the police picture
@mazwideamahle4091
@mazwideamahle4091 7 ай бұрын
She had 3 phones and one ov them was taken by the intruders.
@khanyilekhanyile436
@khanyilekhanyile436 8 ай бұрын
Bring Kelly to court her name was mentioned.vaselina bring Kelly to the stand
@thokozanimbuyisa-ld8hf
@thokozanimbuyisa-ld8hf 8 ай бұрын
Gininda is not answering questions asked by Mgomezulu, he is just explaining unnecessary things to Mgomezulu. The Judge is quiet about that.
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 8 ай бұрын
All the time All the time 😢😢😢😢
@bulihlongwane4893
@bulihlongwane4893 8 ай бұрын
Why was Kelly not arrested if warrant was issued in 2020
@nokubongashabangu2204
@nokubongashabangu2204 8 ай бұрын
This case is very complex. Very difficult. They are hoping to arrest and bring her to join them later or after the sentence of the 5. You need to trade careful in such cases
@amahletomsana5368
@amahletomsana5368 8 ай бұрын
My concern as well
@pirss349
@pirss349 8 ай бұрын
Youa are smart@@nokubongashabangu2204
@nosiphodlaminip
@nosiphodlaminip 8 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu did a great thing by exposing the state of their lies
@bellsmaik110
@bellsmaik110 8 ай бұрын
if i killed someone, then i made a confession and signed such, without being held hostage or tortured to doing so, how do i turn back and engage lawyers back on forth....these are grown ups who i believe they knew what comes with them confessing if at all they did it at their own will, unless they just want to frustrate everyone or probably try their luckiness by changes stories...my conclusion is there was torture to confession...we all know that's what is done by the police and investigation team
@NR-km7pf
@NR-km7pf 8 ай бұрын
I share the same view, and the state is aware that without the alleged confessions, they don't have a case. State collected evidence contradicts the statements by the witnesses who were in the house and experts evidence (e.g DNA, Revolver, position of Senzo & bullet direction, etc.,).
@gladysmkhize4085
@gladysmkhize4085 8 ай бұрын
Are they innocent?????
@bellsmaik110
@bellsmaik110 8 ай бұрын
@@gladysmkhize4085 until proven guilty… for now it’s just too much drama, with a case that’s been in court for the past 10 yrs or so without anyone charged yet they saying the have suspects in hand…
@ntombikaysedanisa8645
@ntombikaysedanisa8645 6 ай бұрын
Gininda said accused no2 gave statement with the advise of his lawyer for leniency on sentencing
@richmanmugadza6646
@richmanmugadza6646 2 ай бұрын
where you are now
@setshoneybee586
@setshoneybee586 8 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu exposing everything so other lawyers can be kept busy too. Becoz apart from Mshololo, the other 2 advocates bayamyekelela. Now everyone is going war 🔥
@mazwideamahle4091
@mazwideamahle4091 7 ай бұрын
If KK's stolen phone was charging on a stand in the living room, when and by whom was it taken?.....when the scuffle began ; the suspects were dragged into the kitchen, a gun went-off and the group dispersed......Now my question is, did one of the intruders go back to the living room , take Kk's phone and shot Senzo near the T.v stand where he was found?.
@skhumbuzompungose1208
@skhumbuzompungose1208 8 ай бұрын
Why Kelly is not in jail if she was involved in killing of mr meyiwa?
@PreciousLefutswe
@PreciousLefutswe 8 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for Senzo Meyiwa's family 💔 This case is the biggest joke ever. I give up🙌🙌🙌
@SamukeloMaduna
@SamukeloMaduna 8 ай бұрын
Personal I don't trust Bhuti kasenzo why waye protector labantu kangaka
@BonganiMncube
@BonganiMncube 8 ай бұрын
No joke's here uwena ogulayo
@meech5411
@meech5411 8 ай бұрын
​@@SamukeloMadunathat one misled the people
@Greatness-dd6pi
@Greatness-dd6pi 8 ай бұрын
@@SamukeloMaduna when an individual refuse to absorb the truth or can't comprehend what is being said bcoz of the lack of proper education or the trend is going against his narrative he dismiss it by saying, 'its a joke'. How can people like an experienced respected Judge, seasoned Prosecutor, Advocates and Colonel, individuals of that calibre spend their time reading books of law then go to court to play games? Just bcoz some ppl support hardcore criminals and murderes then they perceive truth as a joke. Even Gininda is not just a mere police officer that criminals buy. An individual whi is tasks for cold cases are the ones who has been trained, do their work delegently and faithfully. A person known to have mature brains, insight and well equal to the task. Cold cases aren't given to just anybody.
@gladysmkhize4085
@gladysmkhize4085 8 ай бұрын
@@BonganiMncube nazoke true
@diva-ks2nc
@diva-ks2nc 8 ай бұрын
I like Mnomezulu cause when ratha gets sarcastic, he also throws more sarcasm, I like Mngomezulu
@chad4898
@chad4898 8 ай бұрын
😂😂he s very experienced,,he knows hw t deal with sarcastic judges
@buyixaba6024
@buyixaba6024 8 ай бұрын
@@chad4898 childish Judge
@gugundimandenare7969
@gugundimandenare7969 8 ай бұрын
I don’t think Mngome is pushing , he is focusing on less relevant things
@ngwakosefoto
@ngwakosefoto 8 ай бұрын
YOU WILL HARDLY COME ACROSS A POLICE OFFICER LIKE GININDA. HE KNOWS HIS JOB TO THE LATER.
@denniskhumalo193
@denniskhumalo193 8 ай бұрын
Gininda is perfect. He knows his job description well. Similarly to Baloyi, tht guy is clear
@everbote7858
@everbote7858 8 ай бұрын
These 2 know nothing they are just crook
@nosiphomkhize9264
@nosiphomkhize9264 8 ай бұрын
Definitely
@africanprince3254
@africanprince3254 8 ай бұрын
I thought I was alone
@thabanglephoto1740
@thabanglephoto1740 8 ай бұрын
Of lying.
@elizabethmakaleng267
@elizabethmakaleng267 8 ай бұрын
VIVA Mgomezulu, continue pocking holes and exposing lies of Zungu
@xxxxxxx9249
@xxxxxxx9249 8 ай бұрын
He is just digging a out for his clients this one has led to a lot of information being exposed about his clients . He is taking too long bcoz he meanders a lot and this is worsened by Ginida who over explains . He knows that the defense is after him and he is very prepared maybe we will see how strong he is when Mshololo takes over
@gugundimandenare7969
@gugundimandenare7969 8 ай бұрын
Zungus evidence is being supported. Ntanzi lied about work, so he is a liar ! Ginindas evidence is not in favour of the accused
@Greatness-dd6pi
@Greatness-dd6pi 8 ай бұрын
Ppl ignored the song by KK, " NGATHWALA NGAYE". She sang this song with so much pride. Clearly she trusted that her vodoo juju will save her.
@fionandlovu5104
@fionandlovu5104 8 ай бұрын
😅😅 I'm not laughing. You nailed it and I even forgot about that song. 👏 👏
@nondzukisomazosiwe3711
@nondzukisomazosiwe3711 8 ай бұрын
Very true
@ms_tee
@ms_tee 8 ай бұрын
Have you listened to the song? 😂 that title is misleading
@leratobacela4104
@leratobacela4104 8 ай бұрын
Clearly you haven't listened to the song😂😂😂😂😂
@ntombikaysedanisa8645
@ntombikaysedanisa8645 6 ай бұрын
Looooool😂😂😂😂😂
@fionandlovu5104
@fionandlovu5104 8 ай бұрын
Gininda 👏 👏 I had strong feeling that usis K she's involved because why when Senzo was about to leave? She said you can't leave without saying bye to mama because she was buying time for the accused to arrive usisters
@AlpheusNenongwe
@AlpheusNenongwe 8 ай бұрын
Brigadier Gindinda you are very smart you should be our minister of police pls
@lindiignatius3912
@lindiignatius3912 8 ай бұрын
I'm concerned about the gestures made by the judge all the time it seems undermining towards the defense team.
@nellydyaloyi5028
@nellydyaloyi5028 8 ай бұрын
Always
@lwandisandobe9412
@lwandisandobe9412 8 ай бұрын
Obvious he's in the payroll aswell They're just wasting state resources cause it's not like they don't know who orchestrated the whole thing
@Kganyathelight
@Kganyathelight 8 ай бұрын
Very undermining
@MorolongWaMorakile
@MorolongWaMorakile 8 ай бұрын
Even using his fingers and interrupting defence. 🙄
@lulama_kay2705
@lulama_kay2705 7 ай бұрын
lol it is the business of the game. Presiding officers are usually like this. The reason he is not acting out, is we are used to them being like this
@lindaninjilo78
@lindaninjilo78 8 ай бұрын
This would or could have been a nice movie series if it wasn't a true story. Manje a life was lost .iyadabukisa Fathi iyanyanyisa
@mikenyakudya3251
@mikenyakudya3251 8 ай бұрын
Chiko twala and Longwe Twala are also major players in the murder..my suspicion is that the Twalas are the ones who linked Kelly to these hitmen...Longwe is the one who brought them to the Khumalo's home.. the Twalas are the chief architects of this murder
@ndinaejunior9506
@ndinaejunior9506 8 ай бұрын
This judge is giving the counsels everything to disrespect him,, he talks too much
@ClerensRabothata
@ClerensRabothata 8 ай бұрын
Now I'm being caught up in the middle with this case, I love Kelly khumalo music, videos and personality, I also loved Senzo Meyiwa and I didn't like what happened to him. Now I have a big problem, ( Counselling please 😭😭💔💔 )
@Masela_Medias
@Masela_Medias 8 ай бұрын
Stop loving her 😂😂😂 it's that simple
@thabisontsie2898
@thabisontsie2898 8 ай бұрын
@ Masila love doesn't ask why😅
@Ms_Mankotham
@Ms_Mankotham 8 ай бұрын
Shame you believed her innocence so much😂😂😂 don’t worry. The truth is still coming.
@reflexionkhoabane1014
@reflexionkhoabane1014 8 ай бұрын
We all have to remember that this is a statement that Ntazi signed not "the" statement he wrote so I'll say mngomezulu got brains
@stanleykhumalo5158
@stanleykhumalo5158 8 ай бұрын
The problem with this case is we all don't know whether the accused persons know anything about the murder of Senzo Meyiwa because what was the reason of accused number 5 to call Kelly Khumalo
@beewest5704
@beewest5704 8 ай бұрын
He was the middleman hired to plot the hit would be my guess.
@KennyG2435
@KennyG2435 8 ай бұрын
Remember the number that is alleged to belong to accused number 5, is not registered in his name.⁷
@gladysmkhize4085
@gladysmkhize4085 8 ай бұрын
@@KennyG2435 but he was using it....
@MalibongweBongwe
@MalibongweBongwe 8 ай бұрын
One thing about Mr Baloyi cem well prepared for this cause. Gininda is a star.
@NtombikayiseDanisa
@NtombikayiseDanisa 2 ай бұрын
Thats very true
@EuniceNzuza
@EuniceNzuza 7 ай бұрын
Baloyi mara - Kelly must be informed, why cause her name is all over this case😮
@kellybasic7210
@kellybasic7210 8 ай бұрын
Author of the affidavit is subsequently the author of the confessions. Are we subsequently heading there
@mazwimngadi-ic1lv
@mazwimngadi-ic1lv 7 ай бұрын
SA is only amongst 3 countries that the mastermind is hardly ever appears in court after the *NKABIZ* are convicted... and they just get a slap on the wrist for that... Mastermind must be tried 1st or with the excecusioners??? Ey "SA"
@georgebwino9475
@georgebwino9475 8 ай бұрын
This story of contract killer doesn’t make sense as well, remember those inside the house said there was scuffle in the house before Meyiwa get shot, what kind of Inkabi’s can do that ?
@MafaMtimkulu
@MafaMtimkulu 8 ай бұрын
What if they were instructed to make it look like robbery gone wrong
@dannym7593
@dannym7593 7 ай бұрын
​@@MafaMtimkuluTrue they had to make it look like a robbery gone wrong. It won't be surprising that some of the people in the house had no idea what was happening.
@stanleykhumalo5158
@stanleykhumalo5158 8 ай бұрын
The judge likes Mr Mnisi a lot
@phumzilebiyela3723
@phumzilebiyela3723 8 ай бұрын
Angithu hlale hleka nente ngahlekis
@ZemkorConsulting-ho4dv
@ZemkorConsulting-ho4dv 8 ай бұрын
😅😅 Kanti uhlakaniphile umudemude. He capitalize on people mistakes. after ebonile ukuthi lelicala aliwineki. He.only.check Baloyi and witness mistakes yena.
@phumzilebiyela3723
@phumzilebiyela3723 8 ай бұрын
@@ZemkorConsulting-ho4dv yah it's true🤣
@godfreymonama4833
@godfreymonama4833 8 ай бұрын
Mnisi is knowledgeable about the law that's why he keeps asking him to confirm if he is right.
@jackmogotlo5215
@jackmogotlo5215 8 ай бұрын
Remember mr mnisi was a prosecutor before
@TheycallmeBanie
@TheycallmeBanie 8 ай бұрын
I think today the tru statement was read. From Gwinyimbi But i dont think Ntanzi was involved. Mara le yena what was he doing ka Ammunition?
@DaveGarySue1673-q7l
@DaveGarySue1673-q7l 8 ай бұрын
This simple case will unnecessarily take forever , Senzo's family probably lost interest in it , this is injustice 😢
@Greatness-dd6pi
@Greatness-dd6pi 8 ай бұрын
Is the truth scaring? How can you say that. Maumela took nine years without a success. This Judge ppl hate has less than 7 months but we see niw that its processing.
@DaveGarySue1673-q7l
@DaveGarySue1673-q7l 8 ай бұрын
@@Greatness-dd6pi I am looking at the case itself, Neither Maumela nor Ratha nor someone like you who thinks he's brilliant are worth my concern.
@khanyilekhanyile436
@khanyilekhanyile436 8 ай бұрын
Lethani Kelly nkantolo igama lakhe selivele kaningi akazofakaza kuphume iqiniso
@normanmamabolo2335
@normanmamabolo2335 8 ай бұрын
As long as yr phone can reveal outgoing nd incoming calls it also reveals sources of your photos nd their location when analysed .remember all the activities we do with phones are watched nd kept on daily basis including your lication even if your phone dnt hav location app.
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 8 ай бұрын
Brig Bongani Gininda is one of the most dedicated policeman in RSA he has passion for his work....I expected this coz he is the one who is intimately involved in this case as Investigating Officer. M aware that I ll be subjected to lot of criticism but the fact is that this man knows his job. 25/1/2024
@samphora6126
@samphora6126 8 ай бұрын
The three Seargants are the ones who did the job.Gininda is their senior.
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 8 ай бұрын
Teffoooo said 'nonhlanhla kelly khumalo aka ASINNE ASINNE nyatsi ya seganana the trigger point alledgedly shot SON OF THE SOIL by MISTAKE' thats why they did their all to chase him from this case,why isnt she in jail with the 5 accused??Thank you Mngoooo for that BOMBSHELL 💣 of EXHIBIT ZZ ,you was right that crook is indeed a person of interest,him and Peter in the bible are same whatsapp group ba itatola.🤣🤣 you are very naughty Mngoooo you just wanted to annoy niknaks saying 'my poor english' ,stand up tall and dont let him intimidate you mgatsaka! #justice4Senzo #ARRESTkellykhumalo
@mazwideamahle4091
@mazwideamahle4091 8 ай бұрын
I suspect she wasn't arrested because she is not a flight risk and she hadn't been openly implicated and indited for fear of compromising the case. .they also didn't want go through a bail trial.
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 8 ай бұрын
@@mazwideamahle4091 haha no they wanted her to continue making babies 🙊🙈!But thats unfair it shows women are taken as glasses than men but we are all the same.The truth could have long been out if she was thrown in jail,we gona wait til Mandela is resurrected like niknaks always say disrespecting the dead 🥺
@BonganiKhumalo-le9ec
@BonganiKhumalo-le9ec 8 ай бұрын
You don’t make such serious allegations when you are just a lawyer he took it too personal
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 8 ай бұрын
@@BonganiKhumalo-le9ec hehe 'just a lawyer' 😳🤔
@beewest5704
@beewest5704 8 ай бұрын
​@@mazwideamahle4091I think they did not arrest her because the confessions by the accused were withdrawn by them. Without them their case would be too weak. So they decided to convict the accused & then use that to convict Kelly. All we want is everybody involved in Senzo hit must lay for their crimes.
@pearlkhumalo2468
@pearlkhumalo2468 8 ай бұрын
We need a warrant of arrest for Kelly as soon as possible
@ChrisMorodi
@ChrisMorodi 8 ай бұрын
Only Kelly's testimony can finalize this joke
@Hhhhhhhhhh828
@Hhhhhhhhhh828 8 ай бұрын
She will tell the truth bcs she wouldn't want to go to jail for sumthing she did not do.... Like mayb protecting Longwe
@mazwideamahle4091
@mazwideamahle4091 8 ай бұрын
The evidence is there, you just don't wanna see it.
@baebooi5885
@baebooi5885 8 ай бұрын
You are delulu
@LM-rg9lj
@LM-rg9lj 8 ай бұрын
Wow, I guess it's a joke to u...but not to Senzo family..😢.
@gladysmkhize4085
@gladysmkhize4085 8 ай бұрын
This is not a joke
@MorolongWaMorakile
@MorolongWaMorakile 8 ай бұрын
I thought we all believed Gininda is compromised 😮
@ERT-rt2rt
@ERT-rt2rt 8 ай бұрын
Wondering why Mngomezulu resorted to untruth regarding sgt Mogane's testimony, he Mngomezulu elicited nogal!
@Patrick-tt1rp
@Patrick-tt1rp 8 ай бұрын
Gininda is like a advocate himself
@tebogomalemone2782
@tebogomalemone2782 8 ай бұрын
He is holding LLB
@nkosanafeni9561
@nkosanafeni9561 8 ай бұрын
He said he was also doing finals in law when he started to testify
@dannym7593
@dannym7593 7 ай бұрын
😂😂Some of you thought Gininda is an amateur, this is the man who brings the hard-core criminals of the underworld
@user-vd6qv5ke1t
@user-vd6qv5ke1t 8 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu dissects diligently
@vicmabiya5884
@vicmabiya5884 8 ай бұрын
We can’t ignore the incompetency of Mngomezulu. I mean even if Gininda was a crook this attorney wouldn’t prove that. They are in this case for popularity and financial gain.
@beewest5704
@beewest5704 8 ай бұрын
True he is only making his client look worse & worse.
@Adjudicator246
@Adjudicator246 8 ай бұрын
Yes. You are right. He seems to want to drag the case indefinitely. Bringing in irrelevant issues. Asking questions that do not assist the court in any way.
@ZemkorConsulting-ho4dv
@ZemkorConsulting-ho4dv 8 ай бұрын
This Laywer is so sturbon. The state keep warning him but he continue putting his clients in a mess. Cos when he digg this plea bargain issues. He open up for the state to asked his clients about this evidence during cross examination. The accused are lay people it will be difficult for them to answer in their difference. They will go under the bridge abahlafune u Baloyi. It's a sad story.
@khwezipriscillandawonde
@khwezipriscillandawonde 8 ай бұрын
All of them nje are not strong enough to prove that their clients are innocent
@phumezolukhwe9054
@phumezolukhwe9054 8 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu Jst gv up Sir cz Gininda knows his story
@thatseth
@thatseth 8 ай бұрын
4:05:32 “Photos were equally found of the murder weapon used in the murder of Senzo Meyiwa, a photo containing the exact bag of money similar to the one found in Ms Kelly Khumalo’s… Ms Kelly Khumalo was found” 🚩Something is off about Gininda’s statement… earlier on he said Kelly’s phone was not recovered but in part of his statement “a photo containing the exact bag of money similar to the one found in Ms Kelly Khumalo’s…” he goes blank for a brief moment… why? Sure does sound like the last part would be “Ms Kelly Khumalo’s phone” with the whole thing reading like “a photo containing the exact bag of money similar to the one found in Ms Kelly Khumalo’s phone was found” I mean where else would the picture be found? A phone obviously. Gininda must have realised that his statement has a problem and tried to rectify it but couldn’t. Lies always catch up with liars, it’s just a matter of time until the whole thing crashes down.
@baebooi5885
@baebooi5885 8 ай бұрын
Lol shame man I feel sorry for you because it’s really too late now for your delulu..Kelly had more than one phone..
@thatseth
@thatseth 8 ай бұрын
@@baebooi5885 so you know the other phone? Why didn’t Gininda say they found pictures on Kelly’s other phone?
@lesegokgotlhang6434
@lesegokgotlhang6434 8 ай бұрын
He says she did not disclose other phones and they were later discovered. So photos were discovered in the other phone not the one that was stolen during the so called robbery
@jeremiahkalakgosi4983
@jeremiahkalakgosi4983 8 ай бұрын
@lesegokgotlhang6434 she did not disclose other 4 phones, but phone numbers not phones
@thatseth
@thatseth 8 ай бұрын
@@jeremiahkalakgosi4983 👊🏾see you listen to understand 👊🏾 not lesego aka “Gininda groupie”
@mariamasetloa6272
@mariamasetloa6272 8 ай бұрын
Barry Roux always emphasized that theres a Mastermind 😮😮
@tolarencetonny7526
@tolarencetonny7526 8 ай бұрын
Maria it is Gerrie Nel
@everbote7858
@everbote7858 8 ай бұрын
How Longwe went out passing though these a used outside
@SamukeloMaduna
@SamukeloMaduna 8 ай бұрын
He was not a target maybe
@maryanderson3594
@maryanderson3594 8 ай бұрын
Attorney Ramosepele should be defending in this trial within a trial, not Mngomezulu
@thapelohonest7019
@thapelohonest7019 8 ай бұрын
Ramosepele is too weak for Gininda
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 8 ай бұрын
Have you watched Att. Ramosepele how easily he succumb to objections and the judge’s subtle intimidation?
@buyixaba6024
@buyixaba6024 8 ай бұрын
@@thapelohonest7019 totally agree. he was not going to cut it .
@sabeloshabane6433
@sabeloshabane6433 8 ай бұрын
Ufuna ukudlisa team yethu manje 😢?ramosepele is a small boy compared to this bustard gininda is everywhere
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 8 ай бұрын
The term witchdoctor is inappropriate, the appropriate term is "Traditional Doctor/healer"...In Farlam commission this term came up and was clarified...and the accepted term was "Traditional Doctor" or inyanga...25/1/2024
@dukemasengana
@dukemasengana 8 ай бұрын
Brigadier 's theory that this was a contractual hit holds water, but what baffles me is, with this information, why hasn't he moved to arrest Kelly as the mastermind and leave everything to the court to clear or convict him?
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 8 ай бұрын
Nope! The whole drama as told by withnesses is the house does not at all demonstrates that there were professional killers in the house. Longwe have been lft out as witness why? Because he escaped with a his cell phone and never called the police. Who does not call the police if there was a robbery in the house? No DNA was found in the hat. The state has contradicted itself on what kind of gun that was used, it tries to deny that there was a revolver and yet in the affidavit there is a revolver. The people in the house claim that the people who entered the house were not speaking the KZN Zulu, the accent was Zulu-Sotho. The people in the house claim that Senzo was taken to the hospital alive and was rescussitated at the hospital, that contradicts the pathologist’statement. None of the poeple in the house called the police and the ambulance, something one woould have done if there was a robbery or an assassination, instead Chicco is called. Kuningi nje okubonisa ukuthi ooGininda cooked this case, using known criminals but the inkabi’s mondus operandi is totally not reflected in this case.
@baebooi5885
@baebooi5885 8 ай бұрын
It was the NPA(Baloyi) decision to add the Mastermind later.
@nette2144
@nette2144 8 ай бұрын
Then if he believes the confessions, why the reluctance to arrest the mastermind?
@lesegokgotlhang6434
@lesegokgotlhang6434 8 ай бұрын
Gninda can only apply for a warrant of arrest and it has to be approved. Without that he can't take the law into his hands. So let us not blame him for not making arrests. If he had failed to apply for one given the cellphone linkages that we all now know, then you would be right to lay the blame squarely on him.
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 8 ай бұрын
If he (Brig Bongani Gininda) is a liar where would he get such finer details which are objectively confirmed???25/1/2024
@amahletomsana5368
@amahletomsana5368 8 ай бұрын
Why is Kelly still not arrested? They gathered all the information that Kelly was involved in the killing of Senzo.
@ERT-rt2rt
@ERT-rt2rt 8 ай бұрын
Remember the case of the british indian guy who came to have his wife killed while they were on holiday in cape town years back? Thats why!!!!!!
@dannym7593
@dannym7593 7 ай бұрын
This is a process, first you find the killers then you link them with a master mind, thereafter you can arrest the mastermind. You don't just go around arresting everyone without doing proper investigation. Wait for the process to conclude.
@LuluBee-bx8oy
@LuluBee-bx8oy 8 ай бұрын
Dankie Brigadier Gininda about the statement of confession and the findings through these hitman phones ....indeed you were supposed to expose this information along ago haibo standing in the witness box everyday prottecting someone who is busy getting pragnant every two seconds
@thabisontsie2898
@thabisontsie2898 8 ай бұрын
Ratha my respect for u is 1% ur gestures towards defense is so disrespectful
@mikenyakudya3251
@mikenyakudya3251 8 ай бұрын
That rural friend to Senzo must also be arrested..he is an accomplice to murder..he knew this arrangement and he came to be present when his 'best' friend was being killed..he must be arrested too
@ntombikaysedanisa8645
@ntombikaysedanisa8645 6 ай бұрын
He did not knoe, he is the one that said Senzo was taljing to Mandisa abt coming back to her
@NR-km7pf
@NR-km7pf 8 ай бұрын
3:57:59 so why is Ms Khumalo; mentioned in the statement as the person who contracted them not in the box?
@SamukeloMaduna
@SamukeloMaduna 8 ай бұрын
Kunesizathu balanda lelikhehla lejaji liyasaz story salo
@BonganiMncube
@BonganiMncube 8 ай бұрын
Baphi laba ababefuna gininda ziyakhala manje and also giving lecture to the defense
@songezodsd8590
@songezodsd8590 8 ай бұрын
Abantu bayaphapha nje bebethi Gininda Deffender uKelly buka make
@Kganyathelight
@Kganyathelight 8 ай бұрын
This Gininda had a discreet arrogance that may not be noticed if you listen to him carefully.
@esnathconstancemoyo3674
@esnathconstancemoyo3674 8 ай бұрын
Gininda was watching this case procedure from the start
@louismzobe3073
@louismzobe3073 8 ай бұрын
Adv Baloyi "We have a record regarding accused No 2 that assault continued even after he had already made the confession" So there was an assault after all
@lesegokgotlhang6434
@lesegokgotlhang6434 8 ай бұрын
He was merely refering to the recorded proceedings of the court whereby the defence was stating that the assault happened on the 19th and now saying even post that.
@louismzobe3073
@louismzobe3073 8 ай бұрын
@@lesegokgotlhang6434 Okay, Thank you
@ntombifuthixakata4907
@ntombifuthixakata4907 8 ай бұрын
My Lord can’t keep quiet
@thabanglephoto1740
@thabanglephoto1740 8 ай бұрын
Ratha will agree with States even when the State or Witness is misleading the Him.
@kellybasic7210
@kellybasic7210 8 ай бұрын
Contract killing but the charges include robbery
@juniormaila6712
@juniormaila6712 8 ай бұрын
Contract killing, but mastermind is not arrested and charged. How did u come to a conclusion to proceed with trials if investigation is not completed and all suspects are not arrested and charged
@kellybasic7210
@kellybasic7210 8 ай бұрын
@@juniormaila6712 yes. No sense. they ran with the robbery story even after the confessions that says it was a contract killing and also named the mastermind. If now the story is CK, they are on trial for robbery and murder. So why were they charged with robbery. Ai something is terribly wrong
@Thabzalzk
@Thabzalzk 8 ай бұрын
​@@juniormaila6712Someone come to a certain house and kill someone then forcefully deprive u of a cellphone. Then two charges will be brought againts that person i.e Murder and robbery. One does not nulliffy the other. So in essence two offence did occur. So that is the case here bcoz it is alleged in the process they took Kelly s phone
@MxolisiMthembu6018
@MxolisiMthembu6018 8 ай бұрын
​@@ThabzalzkBut they say the confessions said it was a contractual hit? And people who confessed were charged because of what they said. Isn't? Then Kelly's name is there? Why not arrest and charge her? These guys never killed Meyiwa. FINISH!!
@kellybasic7210
@kellybasic7210 8 ай бұрын
​​​@@Thabzalzkif she hired them they didn't steal the phone. it was taken to get rid of evidence.if it was a robbery they could have taken something or everyone's phone but they took 1 belonging to their hirer so the narrative of robbery does not have sense, it's conspiracy.
@stanleykhumalo5158
@stanleykhumalo5158 8 ай бұрын
If the lead investigating officer says it was not a robbery gone wrong but it was a hit and if it was a hit who then ordered the hit.And then that's when the real truth will come out becaue then accused number 5 has to explain as to why did he call Kelly Khumalo and if they're related
@bkyeap5917
@bkyeap5917 8 ай бұрын
So you comment without listening ?
@stanleykhumalo5158
@stanleykhumalo5158 8 ай бұрын
@@bkyeap5917 I comment withouth listening what are you saying
@Mazungu1
@Mazungu1 8 ай бұрын
Sibiya Said is Kelly lo wakini owamu thuma ,
@stanleykhumalo5158
@stanleykhumalo5158 8 ай бұрын
@@Mazungu1 Hahahahahahaha you make me laugh
@khanyilekhanyile436
@khanyilekhanyile436 8 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu wenze kahle wathi akufundwe statement kuvela abo Kelly khumalo manje keep it up mngomezulu
@MuziMavundla...
@MuziMavundla... 8 ай бұрын
Gininda please to solve this issue bring back docket 375
@pumzilesiyokwana9786
@pumzilesiyokwana9786 8 ай бұрын
I like it for Mngomezulu,Kelly have no choice now but to come and tell the truth about what heppened @Makhumalos house on the 26 Oct 2014😂😂😂
@BibiManyatsi
@BibiManyatsi 8 ай бұрын
Exactly and am so glad
@DialinnSA
@DialinnSA 8 ай бұрын
Even the highest famous Rivonia Treason Trial wasn't boring like this Trial
@feziwesoji2014
@feziwesoji2014 8 ай бұрын
Akuphi amanga kaZungu
@mimidiwu330
@mimidiwu330 8 ай бұрын
Ask again😂
@ERT-rt2rt
@ERT-rt2rt 8 ай бұрын
Vista University is now defunct, but where can the qualifying former students get their refunds - for the under-/ miseducation received there?
@nette2144
@nette2144 8 ай бұрын
Then why is KK still walking the streets of RSA...this is a fuckn joke..yoh
@petrusmakhanda9844
@petrusmakhanda9844 8 ай бұрын
Brigadier Bongani Gininda big up! This man knows his job unlike useless Police Minister we have ✊
@ZukisaniMkwa
@ZukisaniMkwa 8 ай бұрын
By lying to the country he knows his job? He said he didn't know the drugs case on Ntanzi bt now he knows bt you are praising him
@augustineliatilecanyouplea3419
@augustineliatilecanyouplea3419 8 ай бұрын
Mr Gininda has a long time to analyze the types of questions the defense asks the previous witnesses. He told himself that his fluently English will help him.Its heartbreaking to se judge still undermining the defense
@Adjudicator246
@Adjudicator246 8 ай бұрын
Ngomezulu asks very poor questions. Also, his deductions and inferences leave a lot to be desired.
@mandisafile4144
@mandisafile4144 8 ай бұрын
that's my biggest concern.. eish
@ZukisaniMkwa
@ZukisaniMkwa 8 ай бұрын
😢😢Gininda plz you said you don't know the drugs case on Ntanzi you only know it on Muzi voslorous😢😢yini manje yhooo hayi kunzima kule case
@khuselwabeaulahngece3404
@khuselwabeaulahngece3404 8 ай бұрын
Waza wasenza uSenzo wakrexeza, yhuuuu iyagulisa le cass
@Adjudicator246
@Adjudicator246 8 ай бұрын
Gininda responses are very frustrating to Ngomezulu. They prevent Ngomezulu from using trickery in defending his clients.
@beewest5704
@beewest5704 8 ай бұрын
His clients must curse the day they hired him to defend the trial within the trial. Now the other defense will have to clear up his mess, Can we get to the main trial now!!!
@Greatness-dd6pi
@Greatness-dd6pi 8 ай бұрын
Well said. I said it last year that this Adv Mngo is messing up his clients case. He forced the affidavit of Nongoma case to be read which totally discredit his client and expose him negatively.​@@beewest5704
@elizabethmakaleng267
@elizabethmakaleng267 8 ай бұрын
Gininda is not answering questions but giving assay statements
@masochas1314
@masochas1314 8 ай бұрын
This Gininda is very intelligent! He is not just an ordinary police officer!
@slindokuhleprecious6959
@slindokuhleprecious6959 7 ай бұрын
Gininda should be hired as a radio presenter
@kennethjonathan3558
@kennethjonathan3558 8 ай бұрын
Just imagine the Sargent forgot his keys at moroka police station,it can't be he's house keys neither can it be his car keys wat keys
@luckynkundla5818
@luckynkundla5818 7 ай бұрын
Ratha respect Mngomezulu, and treat him fair as you treat the witness and the prosecutor.
@NgwendeNgwende-cm2ps
@NgwendeNgwende-cm2ps 8 ай бұрын
Magudumane is in jail. Kelly khumalo naye kangene
@thandyglorymorgan9506
@thandyglorymorgan9506 8 ай бұрын
Thumbs up Brigadie Gininda, you are not just a brigadier but a minister of police👍👍👍
@leratoLetswalo-iz2jl
@leratoLetswalo-iz2jl 8 ай бұрын
I really really feel sorry for Meyiwa's family 😢😢😢 I really dont know why they dont arrest kelly khumalo 💔💔
@njabulojb2994
@njabulojb2994 8 ай бұрын
These accused are innocent even a blind man can see that Gininda and his crew created all this to protect the killer
@ronnymavimbela4000
@ronnymavimbela4000 8 ай бұрын
But how do they protect someone bcos now they implicate Kelly.? But can they arrest her already plz
@mohapimokoena9696
@mohapimokoena9696 8 ай бұрын
You dreaming
@mazwideamahle4091
@mazwideamahle4091 8 ай бұрын
Why would the state sacrifice KK to save Longwe?
@gladysmkhize4085
@gladysmkhize4085 8 ай бұрын
They are criminals big big criminals
@ncedisakhewu
@ncedisakhewu 8 ай бұрын
Uyagula wena.
@EuniceNzuza
@EuniceNzuza 7 ай бұрын
Gininda is professional but Judge is plainly rude and his jokes are undermining. He wants to feel important by looking down on other people.
@ntombikaysedanisa8645
@ntombikaysedanisa8645 6 ай бұрын
Amehloawapakelani mna ndibona uAdv Mshololo otanda ukwenza lonto
@NR-km7pf
@NR-km7pf 8 ай бұрын
4:31:42 did the Magistrates (taking the alleged confession) know about the plea bargain agreement??
@Rithe2024
@Rithe2024 8 ай бұрын
The prosecutors are annoyed.
@JusticeforMeyiwa
@JusticeforMeyiwa 8 ай бұрын
So Toyota Fortuner was no longer used again😮😅
@mbusomngoma1214
@mbusomngoma1214 8 ай бұрын
According to this statement if they completed the investigation with such evidence 😢 Why 10 years later still Kelly is not arrested? Put kelly on the stand please...🤔
@mazwideamahle4091
@mazwideamahle4091 8 ай бұрын
They didn't pay attention to detail since the attention was on Longwe.....but if you revisit her interviews, you'll realise it's Rosemary Ndlovu moments....deny! deny! deny!
@mbusomngoma1214
@mbusomngoma1214 8 ай бұрын
@@mazwideamahle4091 That's so true
@TheycallmeBanie
@TheycallmeBanie 8 ай бұрын
Gininda got brown envelope. I'm sho he realised late that he submitted the wrong affidavit that is why Baloyi was trying to defend it
@mbusomngoma1214
@mbusomngoma1214 8 ай бұрын
@@TheycallmeBanie 😥😥
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