Saber Fundamental Training (YMAA) Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming

[@bartman898]

I like that you always have a sense of humor with your instruction. Life is short - have some fun.

[@v4ngeloz]

I am currently training with the Sabre for my White Crane weapons form and I love it. This video gives a very good introduction into the basic movements and its fun to watch. Very good performers!

[@brasildiegopro]

Thanks for sharing a short part of your DVD

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

@MegaBloodCore Hi, these are Sabers. They are heavier than the traditional Chinese sword. Most of the guys are using Sabers that are not floppy and they're very heavy. We were filming for 8 hours. Occassionally for a certain technique, or if the performer was exhausted, they used a lighter 'demonstration-weight' saber. But for the most part, they used heavy real saber, as they do in YMAA martial art school training.

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

Its true. In fact, in traditional kung fu, the highest level of achievement is called "the fight of no fight".

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

@Tianshanwarrior With a saber, which is much thicker and heavier than a sword traditionally, you do block with the edge, only using the bottom third of the blade. It is designed for that purpose. The goal however is not to hit edge-to-edge, but to very quickly rotate the blade slightly so as to intercept, adhere to, and neutralize the opponent's weapon, whatever it may be.

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

Using a foil saber is only done when the performer can't correctly perform with a real saber due to its weight. The real saber is very heavy, and it tires you out quickly. Traditionally, a student starts with a wood dao, then graduates to a metal blade when he or she is ready (and trusted by the teacher). These modern foil sabers are a convenience for tired demonstrators.

[@Druid_Ignacy]

I love to see teacher of particular art saying that - some people used to tell me that wushu flexible weapons are such for duelling purposes, but I could not believe it, as techniques for those weapons and archeological evidence does not support that.

[@xiaou2]

Highly doubtful any TV MMA fighter could get land a hit on a skilled guy like this. Water looks calm,gentle& peaceful, but falling at speed upon it, or encountering a wave of it, it can kill easily. Never underestimate anyone.Especially a guy whos depth of knowledge&perfected skills r decades more man-hrs than ur actual age. Liddel wont be remembered in 30yrs. Dr YJM will. For his depths & spread of higher level fight knowledge, in books, vids personal teachings & more.

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

@always97 The female performer is Kathy Yang, Dr. Yang's daughter. She is a gold-medal winning martial artist. This and all YMAA DVDs are available on Amazon if you search "YMAA", or go directly to ymaa (dot) com/publishing/dvd

[@Colombia464]

Me encanta las tecnicas de este Maestro y He comprado un Libro de tantos que ha escrito muy bueno. Saludos desde Bonn Alemania

[@1sunstyle]

This guy has serious willpower.

[@victorHcarrizo]

Excellent Video!!! Best Regards

[@Tianshanwarrior]

@1DjRadeoConscyous. The Lien Bu Quan form was taught both at the Zhongyang Guoshu Guan in Nanjing, Changsha and Baoding (to commando and womens militias) during WWII . The version taught at the Guoshu Guan (similar to the one taught by Y.J. Ming) is quiet different from the military version. Y.J. Ming has a DVD with applications If you are interested in the military version, you can order a DVD from the following user: sunahbill in KZbin.

[@Tianshanwarrior]

@Tianshanwarrior The Lien Bu Quan form was taught both at the Zhongyang Guoshu Guan in Nanjing, Changsha and Baoding (to commando and womens militias) during WWII . The version taught at the Guoshu Guan (similar to the one taught by Y.J. Ming) is quiet different from the military version. Y.J. Ming has a DVD with applications If you are interested in the military version, you can order a DVD from the following user: sunahbill in KZbin.

[@baldieman64]

And the Chinese got their asses kicked in WW2.

[@Tianshanwarrior]

@@baldieman64 of course they did, they had the numbers but not the weapons, plus too much corruption and self interests

[@baldieman64]

Ming's sword work is better than most Chinese material showcased on KZbin, but it's still ridiculously lame compared to schools of Japanese or European fencing, where practitioners pressure test their skills.

[@PHEONBLASTER]

@jesuskopp It strikes AND blocks with the edge of the blade. The backside/flat side of the blade is used to brace against the body (or non sword bearing arm/hand) to help block strong strikes. Hope this helps :)

[@taijiteufel]

With the exception of the psych out the point of it is to gain a complete control of the blade no you wouldnt do that in a fight but if you have that much control of your blade you have that many more movement options in a combat situation for instance flexibility, power generation, and angles of attack and defense.

[@kaindrg]

@loosifur i go side tracted but my point was to say that the theme is foreign but the blade has been developed enuf to be as much chinese as the original han and tang proto-katana

[@remaint3282]

It seems to me the flambouyant swings, or flourish, would be done before a duel, to primarily warm up the body for combat, without telling of your potential tactics. The flourish would also demonstrate to your opponent that you are in possession of formidable skill, and may possibly deter the opponent from engaging against you, and opt for a temporary peace.

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

Enoch Tuong No, they are actually training drills, to condition the muscles, tendons, and joints.

[@remaint3282]

Well, obviously. I was pointing out that these drills can also be done just before a duel for aforementioned reasons.

[@sh6843]

There's ok for practicing form - especially if you're beginner as they're light. But yeah they can break quite easy on impact.

[@Tianshanwarrior]

@PHEONBLASTER As I said I am no expert, but if you read the Xingyi Quan of the Chinese Army, you will find some interesting answers to your question. Cheers

[@DjRadeoConscyous]

@Tianshanwarrior for get about it; could not afford a dvd on the subject even if I wanted it badly. I just want to relearn what I have for gotton is all.

[@Tianshanwarrior]

@1DjRadeoConscyous Are u talking about Lien Bu Quan?

[@PHEONBLASTER]

@Tianshanwarrior Uh, as you can see in the video, everyone is striking and blocking with the sharp edge of the sword. With which part of the weapon do you suggest blocking instead?

[@SamHamHam]

I like this flourishing with the weapon, but I am concerned with the edge alignment. Don't you lose the ability to properly align the edge with your strikes if you train flourishing in this way, especially when the swrod wobbles even a bit?

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

Flourishing? This is about attaching to your opponent and then neutralizing and control their weapon. You have to feel their center and balance point based on the shape and physics of the sword.

[@elumiomerk4013]

I wonder if any of this could be useful for knife fighting

[@philliprobinson129]

When it comes to knives. It's totally different.

[@XiseTK]

Is the goal of the training foil sabre to be able to use the sword at speed without making it wobble and make noise? I am technically a beginner, but I am able to swing the sword at full speed and not make the metal wobbling sound..Is this basic technique to be able to find how to efficiently swing the sword so there is no air resistance or very little? I never got any formal instruction for the sabre, just guessing here, hope i am not missing the point lol.

[@jesuskopp]

Does this Sword block/perry with the edge of the blade, or does it block/perry with the flat or back side of the blade???

[@kaindrg]

@loosifur ur refering to the central asian origins, then yes . but the chinese has abandoned thr original form for a similar but heavy infantry fashion weapon like a mini halber. but u must understand teh chinese have changed the original shap of the blade rather much from the origina thin tip blades that the turko-mongols-hungarians spread. even look at turkey their kilij is not the same as when their ancestor brought it over.

[@brashniss]

What kind of saber is that?

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

We use these for basic daily training: ymaa.com/publishing/training-equipment

[@DjRadeoConscyous]

Please some one tell me how to find a "Limbu Chin" or I mean to correct spelling and if I can find it on youtube?

[@ElixirEcho]

Why are the swords floppy?

[@xiaou2]

Most schools use practice swords made of wood or Spring Steel. Spring steel is very thin,lightweight & bends easily, bending causes noises. Real Chinese Swords are made from High Carbon Steel (combat steel), a lot heavier, stiff / limited flexibility. U wont hear much from them. Not many people have enough strength 2wield a real Broadsword.properly. They are about 1/4" thick in the rear spine of the blade. Combat Straight swords are lighter, but still much thicker & heavier than u would imagine.

[@piotrmalewski8178]

I know this comment is old, but to clarify, you're referring to modern tin swords. Actual spring steel weapons are functional and arguably more durable than regular carbon steel, because they come to true on their own after bending. Also, the more advanced historical weapons such as European/Mid-East sabre and many Chinese swords, did have some flexibility. Just enough not to bend easily. Japanese swords did bend, because of poor quality materials and relatively low level of Japanese metallurgy.

[@aardvarkhendricks6555]

The twirls should be the last section of instruction. Thrust, cut, manoeuvre and parry should be the first section of instruction and arguably the longest in terms of time dedicated.

[@acer0255]

When you start with a heavy saber, it burns deep in the forearm, until you condition yourself to deal with the balance of the sword from multiple angles. The spinning moves are taking into account multiple opponents and changing attack angles unpredictably.

[@aardvarkhendricks6555]

@@acer0255 No one in this video used a heavy saber. The twirls are an auxiliary dexterity exercise as you could not employ twirls in a battlefield nor in a confined area. And in a duel, are completely useless.

[@acer0255]

@@aardvarkhendricks6555 The man explains that they are using lighter weapons for demonstration purposes. Besides, these are drills, not even actual fights. Conditioning, not a duel. They are very useful, in the context of the internal styles of their culture. Requires balance, there are invisible cuts hidden in those twirls that you can't see. Also, have to take into account possible environments. I've used similar techniques in saber sparring matches with HEMA teachers.... And won. They work. Did you know that those movements can be used to complete a cut and block the opponent's continuing attack? The Chinese have some pretty awesome movements within their sword styles. The power and confusion generated from the angles taken within their circular forms are👌 You have to experience it to get it.

[@aardvarkhendricks6555]

@@acer0255 It is pretty obvious they are doing drills. Drills are supposed to prepare you for movements you would use in a high stress situation. You mention how the twirl can be used for a parry and cut but it is better to just drill the deflection of a downward cut and counter cut instead of a twirl. You say it helps the internal aspect of their style. I disagree and think it's more for aesthetics and dexterity training.

[@aardvarkhendricks6555]

@@acer0255 And you know you didn't use a twirl in a HEMA match. What exact movement did you use to win against a HEMA instructor?

[@DjRadeoConscyous]

@Tianshanwarrior Yes, Yes.!

[@Tianshanwarrior]

@PHEONBLASTER One thing that I know for sure is that you DONT block with the endge of your weapon. That is the wrong thing to do.

[@isaweesaw]

I don't doubt that these sabres are deadly in any circumstance (They're my favourite Martial Art weapon) but in a real duel situation would the swinging be that effective? Other than as use as a psych-out I can't imagine being hit by someone swinging a sabre round their body.

[@9unslin9er]

I don't know why, but I immediately think Obi-Wan Kenobi when I watch this.

[@Skidouche]

obi wan uses soresu, a form that requires the tight defense to wait for a perfect moment to pull your way through an opponents defense, and much of saber training is to strike with protection and to defend quickly with tight full body movements, and they are quite similar

[@StumbriniuRecords]

The strong person is the one who can avoid the fight, not trying to win it or participate in it, or especially provoke it, only losers do that

[@Venturi01]

I was kidding. Liddel cant even box. theres a reason why he got Ko'd when he stepped in the octagon with someone slightly skilled in throwing/evading punches.

[@xiaou2]

hehe, oops. Well, lot of unenlightened trolls around, so its usually a valid response. Without good interception technology, it makes fighting a lot more Luck than actual Skill. Anyone can strike hard... but can they avoid being stuck? ... Is the more relevant, and important thing to consider. Cheers :)

[@kungfu8135]

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[@worldpeacehavethegreatestc3577]

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[@minhngoquang6720]

know.luyen.nhanh.manh.vachinh.xac

[@Jenjak]

Those wood sabers are so fragile...Need nylon ones

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

We prefer wood over plastic. They do break.

[@Jenjak]

Why do you prefer them to break ?

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

Hello, we TRY not to break them. We don't want to buy plastic.

[@Jenjak]

Ok I understand :) Thank you for the answer.

[@PeterDekker]

Huaquan

[@linyenchin6773]

The whip like motion and all those extra movements indicate an effort to impart maximum flow of action points...the cutting comes from momentum reinforced alignment of that otherwise flimsy thing + the thinnness = maximum force over minimal area... that is some scary cheap~skill based murder...

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

Sword is FAST and SNEAKY

[@supernev1000]

Defense first.

[@yaamurtazacidcontrolrumyaa5210]

Hi Pakistan

[@doex11oak]

Why the heck are they so close to each other swordfighting at that range is next to suicide.

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

Hi, they are training drills. Some of the drills are close range or middle range. In a real saber fight, you would keep distance of course.

[@Mr-Tibbster]

Dont forget that the saber came from ancient Chinese military as well, you were not expected to survive, it was about just running in and killing before you got killed. Win or die trying. It was based upon the concept that you might get a little cut up, but at least you managed to hack the other guy's head off. Dao is a brute force, bravery, close range and risky weapon. Most soldiers were not expecting to come back alive and so were taught in this manner to kill as many as they could fast and hard before they themselves died. So yes, suicide, but its meant to be suicidal. If you wanted to stay alive, hit harder and faster than the opponents do and keep it up. Press in when at close range, jam your opponents weapon down or press it against them in a sword lock while head butting or twisting your dao when in the blade lock to use the tip of your blade to pierce into them when face to face. Its nasty scary stuff and not elegant. Pure warfare.

[@Venturi01]

No hard feelings, you cant hear intent over the internet. lol.

[@PDZ1122]

Nobody ever won a saber fight in real life with that silly dancing and swinging. Seriously.

[@Ymaa_Publication_Center]

Where and when are you having a saber fight?! Wow. This is fundamental technique training to build your tendons, ligaments, learn feeling of the weapon, sense of enemy, stepping drills, basic training, and fundamental techniques in a 3-hour instructional video. This is the preview, not the complete program.