SABER® Two-Stroke Oil Mix Ratios

AMSOIL Powersports Manager Len Groom discusses a convenient, less confusing method to address gas/oil mix ratios in two-stroke power equipment.
For additional information on SABER® Professional Synthetic 2-Stroke Oil, visit bit.ly/1PNqiQ1.
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[@benlager710]

My Dad was a amsoil dealer back in the 80's, his stihl chainsaw ran 100 to 1 for 30+ years still runs strong to this day.

[@AMSOILinc]

We always like to hear these stories! Thanks for sharing, Ben!

[@jlo13800]

I bought 6 gallons of amsoil interceptor for my 8v92 2 stroke. it runs equivalent at 40:1

[@Icutmetal]

@@jlo13800Oh my 🤦‍♂️

[@ericmonse2165]

Been using a 2 stroke pre mix at 50:1 and changed to amsoil 100:1 mix and my stihl trimmer runs much stronger than before much more power at full Rev....excellent product

[@jlo13800]

i run amsoil in my detroit diesel 2 srtoke. a gallons of amsoil of sabre professional 8 gallons in a 12v71 detroit. im using 6 gallons of interceptor in an 8v92 2 stroke diesel!

[@AnarchAngel1]

What pre mix were you using before?

[@jrod264winmag]

@@jlo13800why on earth would you dump 2 stroke oil in you’re Detroit

[@Icutmetal]

@@jrod264winmagHe’s trolling.

[@craiganderson1744]

I am an early Amsoil user. I mix up a 5 gallon batch with non oxy gas a couple times a year. 100 to 1 Amsoil 2 stroke, a little Amsoil stabilizer(or Stabil) some Amsoil PI (performance improver). I use it in every small motor I own, 4 stroke or 2 stroke. I have a 20 year old Husky chainsaw that feeds my fireplace, never had it not start. Runs like new and doesn't smoke. Every now and then I have a carb fail from vibration, and on internal inspection, it looks like new. This mix keeps carbs from pluging up upon extended down time (winter). I run this mix in my race car engines for winter storage. I have also used it to bring old motorcycles and lawn mowers back to life after their carbs were wrecked by alcohol corrosion in the gas. The PI will eat the corrosion. Awesome stuff.

[@LilasTools]

using 100:1 in your 4 stroke? does that work well?

[@HiTechOilCo]

@craiganderson1744 - AMSOIL P.i. is not recommended for 2-cycle engines. The AMSOIL Quickshot is what you want.

[@charlieabel1533]

Yes, finally a video on my favorite Amsoil product. I've been using it for years at 100:1

[@lightningsmokerXx]

ever had a machine fail using that mix? or have to drastically to a carb adjust or anything so you can run 100:1 ?

[@docrw]

After break in, it's all I would USE... Been using the original 100 to 1 for over 35 years and it's amazing!!! I get the same thing with all the idiots saying it's NOT enough, but I can show dozen of pictures of 20 chainsaw internals with NO wear, NO carbon, No mess, No problems, Nothing but good to say about this oil!!!! Also less oil is better on octane , I just took apart a Husqvarna 266 XP and the piston looks new with no carbon at all, after 35 years of use (professionally)... The inside was so clean and compression is factory numbers. Just do it.

[@AnarchAngel1]

What professional capacity? Cuz from what I hear from loggers and full time arborists is that a saw lasted a long time if it went 3-4 years when it's being used hard on a daily basis

[@AnarchAngel1]

I too like to use a synthetic blend for break in, Husqvarna XP+ or Echo Red Armor are both very good. Honestly for some saws I continue using the Husky at 45:1 even after it's broken in. The Husky oil barely has any smell to it and my saws that run on it always look excellent when I break them down. Red Armor is my second choice. It has excellent film strength and apparently cleans carbon deposits but my saws seem to think it's not quite as good of a lubricant as the Husky stuff. Run Saber in most of my saws at 80:1 though and have never had a problem. I'm not crazy about how it smells but there are definitely far worse (cough cough Stihl Ultra). My saws that run on Saber run very clean and I never see any signs the engine isn't getting adequate lubrication

[@andrewsanders6270]

Cool , have used alot of amsoil with NO adverse results in rear ends , 4 cylinder s10 engine for 15,000 miles with no oil change, just a filter halfway through and 2 stroke 500cc sled engines and a really sweet running cr250r , I ran dominator in the 250r at 2.5oz to the gallon for around 300 hours with zero loss of compression . Going to get some saber today and run it in a nice old Mcculloch 10-10 chainsaw , I'll put 2-1/2oz in it and go from there ! Thanks for the video 👍👍👍

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

So 50:1 does work well?? Not to rich?? Did you ever get into the top end to confirm?

[@andrewsanders6270]

@@jacobhendrickson8935 Yep , run 2.5 oz in anything it will never fail because of the oil . Amzoil says 1.5 oz a gallon for saws and weed wackers but I run 2+ in them

[@HiTechOilCo]

@@jacobhendrickson8935 - With AMSOIL, you're using the best products of their kind in the world, not some cheap, price formulated 50:1 stuff sold at Walmart. :) Seeing is believing and AMSOIL tested Saber at 50:1 and 100:1, which validates the 100:1 recommendation. Go to; www dot amsoil dot com/performance-tests/archive/ and look for the, "ECHO 100:1 STRING TRIMMER TECHNICAL STUDY (G3470)". Save your money my friend. :) Enjoy.

[@AnarchAngel1]

Been running it at 80:1 in my saws for a while now, no problems at all. You can tell when you pour this stuff that it's got high viscosity compared to a lot of other oils. It's high quality stuff

[@HiTechOilCo]

How about 100:1, per AMSOIL recommendations?

[@AnarchAngel1]

@HiTechOilCo Personally I'm not comfortable running any oil at 100:1 to be honest. I've messed around with different ratios with Saber and now I just run it at 50:1 in my saws. It still burns cleaner than most oils at that ratio and I'm 100% confident I'm getting proper lubrication, especially the bottom end. I think you could run it at 100:1 in some engines but a chainsaw that runs at 11,500 RPM is a demanding engine and I just prefer to be safe. I've torn down saws that I've run at 50:1 and they look really clean and well lubricated so I'm gonna stick with that

[@HiTechOilCo]

@@AnarchAngel1 - AMSOIL has a written product warranty. That provides all the comfortable necessary. :) AMSOIL saves money. No need or benefit to deviate from AMSOIL Inc. recommendations. Bias ply tires would wear out at about 15,000 miles. With modern, long life radial tires, would we change them at bias ply tire intervals of every 15,000 miles? :) Of course not, as that's not necessary, of no benefit and wasteful of money. AMSOIL Saber Professional at 100:1 is not at the, "ragged edge", of protection. It's well within the safety zone, or AMSOIL would not be recommending it as they then would be paying out for a lot of two stroke engine warranty claims. But that's not happening because AMSOIL protects. With AMSOIL, you're using the best products of their kind in the world, not some cheap, price formulated 50:1 stuff sold at Walmart. :) Seeing is believing and AMSOIL tested Saber at 50:1 and 100:1, which validates the 100:1 recommendation. Go to; www dot amsoil dot com/performance-tests/archive/ and look for the, "ECHO 100:1 STRING TRIMMER TECHNICAL STUDY (G3470)". Save your money my friend. :) Enjoy.

[@HiTechOilCo]

@AnarchAngel - "docrw - 4 years ago - After break in, it's all I would USE...Been using the original 100 to 1 for over 35 years and it's amazing!!! I get the same thing with all the idiots saying it's NOT enough, but I can show dozen of pictures of 20 chainsaw internals with NO wear, NO carbon, No mess, No problems, Nothing but good to say about this oil!!!! Also less oil is better on octane , I just took apart a Husqvarna 266 XP and the piston looks new with no carbon at all, after 35 years of use (professionally)... The inside was so clean and compression is factory numbers. Just do it. "

[@AnarchAngel1]

@HiTechOilCo I don't doubt that under normal conditions in a properly tuned engine 100:1 is fine. I personally just like to leave myself some wiggle room, it just helps me sleep better knowing for sure I've got the lubrication I need even if something should occur that exposes the engine to less than ideal lean conditions. I've tried all types of ratios and inspected engines run on them. I see no harm in running it at 50:1. Amsoil themselves say it can be run at conventional ratios 🤷‍♂️ The bottom end (rolling friction) in particular cares more about lubrication quantity than quality. Running 100:1 requires that you lean your engine out as well, which results in even less oil entering it. I'm not doubting the oil, I simply feel more comfortable running an excellent oil like Saber at a conventional ratio. I KNOW I'm getting more than proper lubrication. Again, I've noticed no ill effects such as excess carbon. I know several mechanics that agree with me on this. Guys that have seen saws exposed to all different ratios in saws with various amounts of hours on them. Even guys here on YT like Richard Flagg, ask him his opinion 🤷‍♂️ I realize 50:1 with this oil is more than necessary. For me, that's kind of the point as long as I know I'm not creating problems by running too oil rich

[@lagoonrd4173]

Use it on my stihl 261,460,461,462 and 038mag ... use them hard all day amsoil since 2017 .... wish I knew this long time ago

[@PureSyn71]

Great job Mr. Groom!

[@jimbo5635]

When you change the mix ratio, you change the fuel viscosity. This changes air fuel ratio. I engine jetted for 32:1 is going to run really rich if mixed at 100:1

[@AnarchAngel1]

Yeah...just tune your engine for the new mix

[@AMSOILinc]

Finally! A convenient, less confusing method to address gas/oil mix ratios in two-stroke power equipment.

[@DandSCreations]

So where will amsoil be when I mix up 100:1 in my dirtbike and fry the rings off? Not paying for parts that's for sure!

[@LilasTools]

@@DandSCreations They dont claim its for dirt bikes, its for the small garden/forest/lawn equipment. I'm this oil at 50:1 would run your bike just fine.

[@stephenandloriyoung5716]

@@LilasTools I noticed he didn't mention dirt bikes, but it seems to be implied that it is suitable for them, by one being shown among the equipment in the video.

[@CuriousKL]

I have been running Amsoil 2 cycle oil since it first came out. I run the Sabre Pro at 3 tbs (1.5 ounces) to a gallon of non-ethanol fuel.

[@wayneedgerton5892]

I have used Saber in my 025 Stihl chainsaw at 100:1 for over 20 years without any issues. It still runs like new. I wouldn't use anything else.

[@therealRustyShackleford]

It's funny to read people's posts going against the 100:1 ratios. Why would Amsoil come up with this and only sell you half the oil? Seems it would be better for them to sell it using 50:1 and double their sales. Obviously it works. I have used it in all my 2 cycle equipment for years mowing commercially. I run my 2 cycle stuff hard and also in my Stihl 4 mix engines as well. There are a lot more mechanical parts in a Stihl 4 mix engine than a traditional 2 stroke engine. I have never had any issues nor do I hear any abnormal mechanical noise that one might expect using half the oil. This stuff works. Exhaust screens stay clean and that tells me that the rest of the inside of the engine is too. I have bought several used pieces of 2 cycle equipment over the years and after about 5 tanks of non ethanol gas mixed 100:1, they almost always run better than when I bought them.

[@mariuso4879]

I have a Shindaiwa H4 Hybrid ( T344 trimmer)and I think it's the same technology like your Stihl 4 Mix. You say you have been running 100:1 Saber Professional in your 4 Mix engine with no problems? If so then I am safe to run it at that mix ratio in my H4 hybrid, too, I think. Thank you.

[@therealRustyShackleford]

@@mariuso4879 yeah, I have been running the Amsoil mixed at 100:1 using non ethanol gasoline. No problems. I took the spark plug out this past winter to inspect it and it was very clean. The muffler screen was almost spotless with just a light amount of black dust on it.

[@billybobbubbawubba9457]

Very good spokesman,

[@pancudowny]

When I bought a brand-new 1200W 2HP 2-stroke generator, my first concerns were getting it to run efficiently & performing a proper "break-in"... This meant using a synthetic 2-troke oil. Unable to find what synthetic oil I used before, an internet search led me to Saber form AMSOIL. After much reading upon their website, I decided to use the Pro formula seen here. But I still had a question: Since the generator's manufacturer called for 50:1 mix, and Saber allows one to safely run a mixture of half that, what mixture should I use for the first tankful on "break-in"? I emailed this question them, and they responded: Follow the manufacturer's recommendations during break-in with the first tankful, and then our recommendations of half that with every tankful afterwards. Well, I did... and I've not only been operating it trouble-free since, I'm actually surprised at how strong, smooth & smoke-free it's been operating! So now, when other "New" 2-stroke power-equipment operators ask what to run... or older ones ask what they can use/do to make their equipment run as well as mine... I just tell them: Cut the smoke from your 'stroke with AMSOIL Saber!

[@2_be_determined]

pancudowny Did someone pay you to write that? That's a serious question BTW.

[@ninoreeves7702]

outstanding, slogan........i'm going to start saying that...

[@weasel884]

ive run opti 2 at 100:1 for about 2 years in my equipment.no problems.now im on stihl syntetic and looking to go to amsoil since Stihl oil burns cold.

[@alexhickey5633]

I use between 30:1 and 40:1 on all my 2 stroke engines, none have blown up. Ran another engine on 50:1 as an experiment and that thing threw a rod. I heavily use my engines and thats why i use a slightly richer oil:fuel mix than what manufacturers reccomend. I have yet to do a "torture" test on an engine using this oil here at 100:1. Ill run 2 tanks through it and see what happens. Btw im talking about motorised bikes and 2 stroke stimmers

[@lightningsmokerXx]

@Alex Hickey ---Did you ever end up testing this Amsoil Saber Oil?

[@pablomerchant9285]

Bro this is crazy 100:1

[@alexhickey5633]

@@lightningsmokerXx i did, but not at 100:1

[@alexhickey5633]

@@pablomerchant9285 madness isnt it

[@Sensei948]

33:1i s ok ls + ?

[@ericjohnson3332]

Why does everyone wanna use less oil and save a couple dollars? Oil makes moving parts move smoothly does it not? Modern synthetic oils burn so clean and effectively. Why not just run what the manufacturer says using a great oil? My 40 year old Lawn Boy, 10 year old stihl string trimmer, 45 year old mcculloch chain saw and 5 year old weedeater blower all get non oxygenated 91 mixed with Saber at 32:1 and they run perfectly and start easily after sitting in the winter.

[@big6red389]

Yall always got straight to the point no bull videos like it very informative do yall make a gallon jug of this oil i do landscaping so and the oil in small quantity is just to expensive

[@AMSOILinc]

We're happy to hear you found this video to be helpful! AMSOIL SABER® Two-Stroke oil will be an excellent choice for your landscaping equipment. We do offer this product in a variety of package sizes, including Gallon jugs. You can find it at this link: www.amsoil.com/p/saber-professional-synthetic-2-stroke-oil-atp/?code=ATP1G-EA Keep us posted if we can help with anything else! -The AMSOIL Team

[@Indeewoods]

So lets see a machine that has many hrs on it at 100:1. I want to see the piston and crank bearings.

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

My question was answered here. I’m just not comfy at 100:1 in my 8000 dollar dirt bike but was worried that if I bought Amsoil and ran 50:1 I’d be way to rich as in causing issues rich. Now I’m trying to figure out what would be the best ratio for overall reliability?? Cause to much can cause rings to stick along with carbon issues and fouled plugs.

[@AnarchAngel1]

I don't use it in bikes but I use it in my many saws. I run it at 80:1 for a little extra insurance. Never had a problem

[@wayneedgerton5892]

Saber is NOT intended to be used on bikes. It is intended to be used on handheld equipment such as chainsaws, leaf blowers, etc. AMSOIL has other oils for bikes, boats, etc.

[@AnarchAngel1]

@@wayneedgerton5892 It would work fine in bikes IMO. There's not really a difference between a bike and handheld 2 stroke power equipment besides the size of the engine, they're both air cooled 2 strokes. You're correct that AMSOIL has other formulas they say are more appropriate for bikes though like Dominator. Saber used to say right on the package it could be used on bikes. I think the decision to remove that was probably more of a marketing thing than a reflection that it's bad for bikes

[@ninoreeves7702]

amsoil has motorcycle two stroke oil. saber is intended for small 2 strokes.......i would check out their motorcycle tab.

[@jmj267]

The bladder pack that I have is 1.5 oz of 100 to 1 if I use that for one gallon for my 50 to 1 snowblower that should suffice but your racial chart has 1.3 + 1.6 and it varies from 80 to 1 to 100 to 1. Then on the package it says :50 to 1 add two packages what's the deal here

[@AnarchAngel1]

Yeah the bladder packs will give you a mix richer than 100:1. It ends up being a little a over 80:1. I run 80":1 in my stuff anyway

[@scott5006]

does anyone have experience with this product in big bore 2 stroke dirt bikes. sounds like it would prevent loading up in the tight spots where I'm putting but still provide the protection for the long WOT runs through the sand.

[@aaronbright5028]

scott 500 just run a high octane gas and mix at 32:1 or 40:1(better at 32:1 for power gains and lubrication) and you can run any oil on the market. EVEN 30W SAE MOTOR OIL. more oil=more power and better lubrication no matter what the application is.on a fourstroke you lean the jetting out to get more power. it is the same on a two stroke.more oil=less fuel(or lean jetting) and therefore more horsepower. putting a lot of oil is a good thing.

[@chrismanners2036]

What oil do you recommend for a kx250 that is trail ridden? Right now I run maxima k2 at 40:1 and I still have some spooging going on.

[@577buttfan]

Motul 800 2t off-road 50:1 Just.make sure your jetted properly.

[@TYOUNG0168]

I've run my generator & weed wacker @ 100:1 for years with no problems.

[@AMSOILinc]

Great to hear, Tom!

[@attackpilot]

I have an Arctic cat M8000 with a big bore kit. Can I still use that same ratio with saber AMSOIL

[@thomasczartoszewski6378]

I see a dirt bike in the background, is it safe to use on Dirtbike?

[@AMSOILinc]

Hi Thomas, we do not recommend using SABER in dirt bikes. It is formulated for small hand held equipment and doesn't meet the specification for dirt bikes.

[@gregcroteau2217]

Very safe and it will run very strong, no fouled plugs, etc.

[@thomasczartoszewski6378]

Greg Croteau, I did a research on this oil. I understand why Amsoil does not recommend it.

[@harleylif1929]

I have racing go karts with IAME 100 cc engines that turn 15000 to 16000 RPM. The manufacture says to mix 8oz of Motul 2T ester based oil per gallon of race fuel. Am I understanding you correctly that I can run the Amsoil at 50 or 100 to one and not have any problems?

[@sinnesterklownz45]

soo 100 to 1 will work for a 98 kx250 that runs with 40 to 1

[@gerrycresswell2059]

Why is there no comment to the changes to fuel content,

[@BeulahLips]

Is this approved for HPDI, direct injected outboards, like Optimax, Etec, etc?

[@travis10ist]

Sir I don’t wanna get confused. Stihl hp ultra oil 2.6 oz bottle make one gallon 50:1. But AMSOIL saber 1 pack 1.5oz make one gallon at ratio100:1? Then 2 packs for 50:1 with what? richer but when I put another one gallon gasoline in with 1 pack of 1.5 oz in it look lighter than stihl hp ultra color seem like not enough oil. I won’t put it in my equipments look scary

[@AMSOILinc]

We have a variety of package sizes, including a 2.6-oz. bottle, so you can choose whatever size works for you and the gas can you’re using. SABER is tested and proven at any mix ratio up to 100:1. There’s no reason to be nervous about using it at that ratio in your equipment, but lots of people mix it at 50:1. If that’s what you choose to do, you will have excellent results.

[@PurplDanq]

Can you put this in 2 stroke dirtbikes

[@AMSOILinc]

SABER is dialed-in specifically for handheld power equipment, so we haven’t tested it in motorcycles. We recommend DOMINATOR Synthetic 2-Stroke Racing Oil in two-stroke dirt bikes, Rad.

[@hlfpsttomorrow93]

Anyone else notice the bar on the chainsaw is upside down?

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Very cool

[@jeffthomas1063]

Super, a fail safe oil for the dumb, thanks Amsoil!

[@mariuso4879]

Would this work in the Shindaiwa H4 Hybrid engine that requires 50:1 2 stroke oil? I can't seem to find any testaments about the compatibility with that engine at 100:1 ratio. My logic tells me that it should work but did somebody actually try it? I don't want to ruin my T344 trimmer. Thank you.

[@AMSOILinc]

Hi Marius, Thanks for the question. We do not have any testing done on this engine. If you want to run it at a 50:1 ratio with our SABER Professional Synthetic 2-Stroke Oil, that will be just fine. Our product is rated to work at all ratios when using a 100:1. So if you wanted to run the oil at 100:1 in your equipment, that would be fine too. Reach out to our Tech Team at any time at [e-mail] or 715-399-8324 and someone will be happy to answer any additional questions you have!

[@aaronyork6173]

Do you guarantee that I will not blow up my 2 cycle engine running 100 to 1? Does amzoil have a guarantee for this ? I have a stihl bg50 blower

[@AMSOILinc]

We do back up our products with a limited warranty. P.S. Coincidentally, we have tested SABER at 100:1 in BG50 blowers in our mechanical lab with excellent results. If you'd like to speak with one of our Tech Reps in more detail, you can reach them at [e-mail] or by phone at 715-399-8324.

[@lorenzov9136]

Would 100:1 be sufficient for old engines with bronze bushings as bearings and felt seals?

[@AMSOILinc]

Hi Lorenzo, Thanks for the question. The AMSOIL Saber Professional 100:1 can be used in any two cycle engine that conventional two cycle oils are used. There is no issue with compatibility with the engine components or seal materials. Keep us posted if you have additional questions, or you can always contact our Tech Team at [e-mail]. Thanks!

Is there a chart on how much Sabre to add to 5 litres of premium (no ethanol) gasoline? I want to mix it at a 50:1 ratio. Also, does Sabre have a stabilizer in it or do we have to add a separate Amsoil fuel stabilizer? Thanks.

[@AMSOILinc]

Hi, Al. You need 100 mL of SABER to mix at 50:1 with 5 liters of gasoline. SABER does have stabilizer in it, so you’re good to go there. Keep us posted if you have any other questions. Or, feel free to reach our Tech Department at [e-mail] or 715-399-8324 and they will be happy to help you out.

[@workingcountry1776]

5L is 5,000ML..... 5,000 / 50 is 100. So 100ML oil to 5,000 ML 90 octane NON-ethanol. Just so you have the math. I don't even use metric much.

[@BECHA1977]

why amsoil oils do not present into jaso oil list?

[@tubetime39]

jaso makes that decision, try asking them

[@BeulahLips]

100 to one still OK for high performance outboards? Like 200-300 hp Mercs, etc?

[@gregcroteau2217]

Amsoil makes Marine oil for outboards - it's 50:1

[@lightningsmokerXx]

@BeulahLips www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/marine/

[@grantf.]

I'm using Dominator oil mix at 50:1 in my Honda CR85R(just switched the whole bike over to Amsoil) . Could I use Dominator in my chain saws, weed trimmers? I'm really trying to get down to 1 mix container. I'm trying to go all Amsoil I have 2 ATV's, 1 Dirt Bike, 1 Tractor, 3 Vehicles, 1 Weed trimmer, 1 Chainsaw, 1 Snowblower, 1 Boat.

[@AnarchAngel1]

I can speak for the saw...Dominator should work just fine

[@Icutmetal]

@@AnarchAngel1Until it comes to rust protection, which Dominator lacks compared with Interceptor.

[@travis10ist]

Question, is Amsoil saber full synthetic or blend synthetic?

[@AMSOILinc]

Hi Travis, AMSOIL Sabor is a full synthetic product. Keep us posted if you have any other questions!

[@sticrzy123]

Can I use this in my 2005 yz125 ??

[@AMSOILinc]

Hi 2Gunner, our primary recommendations for the 2005 YZ125 would be the DOMINATOR Synthetic 2-Stroke Racing Oil (bit.ly/2rUB940). You could also use INTERCEPTOR Synthetic 2-Stroke Oil (bit.ly/2kFWxGl). We do not recommend using SABER Professional Synthetic 2-Stroke Oil in this bike. Keep us posted if there are any additional questions.

[@sticrzy123]

No I'm curious to why not ? Will it damage it ?

[@Ben-et8wh]

you're saying I can use a proffesional chainsaw at 100:1 revving at 14,000 with full lubrication?

[@docrw]

YES, I've used it in 20+ saws for almost 40 years.

[@pablomerchant9285]

Wtf

[@mlkm11]

Good help. How does this product rate with different octanes

[@SOLDOZER]

Octane has nothing to do with it.

[@mlkm11]

KING TROLL so I can use "87" out of my local stations and not worry about blowing a top end quicker on a dirt bike 🚲

[@TomBuikema]

mlkm11 Dont listen to King Troll, guy is clearly a knob. Also, saber works with any octane gas and works very well, it will hardly reduce your octane level running at 100:1 and runs much better than anything that requires more oil.

[@mlkm11]

Ok cool I have been mixing 87 octane with amsoil @50:1 for an old dirt bike. I understand that jetting is what is most important

[@doglegjake6788]

i wonder if al gore runs his chainsaw at 100:1

[@NorthlanderMN]

I wonder if Trump has ever started a chain saw ever. His bone spur might be preventing him.

[@RedPetrol76]

@@NorthlanderMN Trump could not even a start one with his weak muscle tone, and his beer belly (though he doesn't drink beer, which is pretty lame)

[@josevelez49]

Why amsoil took the motorcycle out of the saber label? The truth please!

[@AMSOILinc]

Hi Jose, As markets evolve, we carefully monitor equipment needs to make sure we’re delivering the best protection. We saw an opportunity to adjust the SABER formulation to better protect today’s handheld lawn and landscape equipment, so we dialed it in for that market. We did not test the new formulation in motorcycles and other non-handheld equipment, so we removed those recommendations from the label. That was an easy choice since we have other, better options for motorcycles, like DOMINATOR Synthetic 2-Stroke Racing Oil, which we have validated extensively in two-stroke bikes.

[@josevelez49]

Man!! I still have a case of Saber. I was willing to use it on Beta Xtrainer for the trails!!!

[@hazemismail9068]

Have you had any customers using this oil for remote control vehicles. if so what ratio do they use?

[@billybobbubbawubba9457]

I,m looking for mixed life. How long before it degrades when mixed? I have a mixed 5 gal. can of clear premium ($5 gal.) mixed with Saber that is about 2 months old.

[@AnarchAngel1]

It has a fuel stabilizer in it but it's a good idea to only mix what you think you'll use in about a month IMO. You could also add some Sta-Bil or something if you really wanna stick to larger batches

[@wayneedgerton5892]

Saber has a stabilizer in it. I've gone up to 6 months without any issues as long as I started out with non-ethanol gasoline.

[@AnarchAngel1]

@@wayneedgerton5892 I'm using some right now that's been mixed for like 2+ months. I also add a dash of Sta-Bil to my mix if I'm not planning on running my saws etc. too much. Like you said, starting with ethanol free fuel makes a big difference. Ethanol will pull moisture in from the air and spoil it a lot sooner. I still wouldn't recommend using 6 month old mix though even if it's ethanol free

[@AnarchAngel1]

It's not really the oil that's degrading...it's the fuel itself. While Saber does have stabilizer I find it's always better to not mix enough than too much

[@wayneedgerton5892]

@@AnarchAngel1 I agree. Mixing more than you will use in a reasonable amount of time is silly. I am not encouraging that.

[@TheTriniplayers]

Can I run amsoil saber at 40:1 in my string trimmer?

[@wayneedgerton5892]

Yes. However, you can also use AMSOIL at 100:1. It will run better, less smoke, and better protection. If that ratio scares you, AMSOIL 50:1 will also work.

[@Kartyman550]

@amsoil does this work for all two strokes such as bikes and sleds

[@AMSOILinc]

+Kartyman550 AMSOIL’s primary recommendation for 2 stroke dirt bikes and sleds, including big bores, is Dominator 2 Stroke Racing Oil. Saber Professional has been formulated and tested for small hand held 2 stroke engines.

[@stephenandloriyoung5716]

@@AMSOILinc Hmmm...Bike Berry offers an EPA approved two stroke bicycle motor kit, with the red ink warning that using any oil other than Amsoil Saber Professional Synthetic two stroke oil at 100:1 will damage it severely. What gives?

[@577buttfan]

@@stephenandloriyoung5716 that's a little fuckin weed Wacker engine on that bike.

[@tubetime39]

@@stephenandloriyoung5716 I'm guessing because using any other oil at 100:1 would damage it severely.

[@StrBADCyperIgwt]

My new Chainsaw says 20 to 1 for 10 hours, then 25 to 1 after that. Could I run 50 to 1 with Saber and be safe.

[@AMSOILinc]

You should be able to run the Saber Professional at 50:1 in place of 20:1 or 25:1 ratios with no problems. The Saber is very concentrated, and will do a great job lubricating at the 50:1 ratio. Keep us posted if we can help with anything else!

[@577buttfan]

They claim 100:1 so have at it.

[@StrBADCyperIgwt]

@@577buttfan I know they do, but when it seizes up, think they will buy me a new one, doubtful lol.

[@577buttfan]

@@StrBADCyperIgwt hell no..I'd run 40:1 with a chainsaw.. synthetic or not..if you run Motul 800 2t you could go 50:1 possibly 66:1.

[@AMSOILinc]

@@StrBADCyperIgwt We back our products 100%, so you can feel confident in mixing at the 100:1. If you'd like to get more details, don't hesitate to reach out to our Tech Department at [e-mail] and they'll be happy to assist you. Thank you!

[@JDRTRM]

Bel-Ray MC-1 ! In all my Toyz and yard maintenance equipment 2 stroke .! Yeah it’s more money , but so is a rebuild !

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

Mc1 was always my favorite as well at 50:1 but I started fouling plugs on my yz250 and no one could figure it out until I realized one day my power valve was clogged. Bel-ray informed me not to use mc1 on anything with a power valve for this very reason. Mc1 is more designed for air cooled 2 strokes without power valves. They instructed me to use their H1R and I’ve switched with zero problems. I guess Mc1 is fine too if you inspect/clean your power valve often. For me it was the power valve cover with the hose that ran off of it clogged. My jetting was right, but I do tend to jet to the reliable rich side. Just thought I’d share the info with you. Bel ray recommends H1R for these newer water cooled 2 strokes with power valves.

[@JDRTRM]

@@jacobhendrickson8935 Oh yes I knew that absolutely !

[@tiptoplandsolutions1421]

I just joined as a commercial account...surely scared to run our saw fleet on 100 to 1....lots of $$ @ risk.Im thinking of just playing it safe until the cows come in home for now..lol peace !🙈🙉🙊🤙

[@wenull3]

So your saying 100:1 will work for my Toro 726te 50:1 2 stroke 2 stage snowblower in winter and my 50:1 McCullough chainsaw, 32:1 LawnBoy DuraForce and idc trimmer in hot summer with out any worries? sounds g ood but as a guy that will not let my 2 strokes die I'd be worried a little.

[@justincolson9589]

+Walter Null yes it will. I run leaf blower, stihl chainsaws, weed whacker, hedge trimmer. All call for different ratios. I have run them at 100:1 for 12yrs or so now. Have not had any issues at all. It also has a built in stabilizer.

[@matthewlidel4324]

Can l run the Interceptor mix in my chainsaw?

[@AMSOILinc]

Hi Matthew, Thank you for the question. Simple answer is you can, but SABER is going to be more cost effective, especially with the 100:1 mix ratio. If you have any additional questions, don't hesitate to contact our Tech Team at [e-mail]. Thank you!

[@Sensei948]

Master, is it possible to pour 33: 1 husqvarna ls + to drink 372xp 357xp and scythe 545rx? Will not jam the piston rings with carbon?

[@robidk2704]

100 to 1? did you test my Husqvarna chainsaw at 14000 rpm for 5 minunts straight cutting through a big log on a 90 degree day? cause im not comfortable.

[@AMSOILinc]

If you’re uncomfortable at 100:1, you can mix SABER at 50:1 or wherever you are comfortable and still have great results. For the record, we have put SABER through tests much longer and more severe than what you’ve described. SABER is extremely tough and will handle long hot days in the field at 100:1 with no problems.

[@avega2792]

I have a mix of 2 stroke engines, newer and older, spanning ratios from 25:1 to 40:1. String trimmers, snow blower and gas scooter. Which oil and ratio would work best to standardize my mix ratio across all my equipment?

[@avega2792]

@@krisv161 shut up nerd. I wasn’t asking you.

[@avega2792]

@@krisv161 I said shut up nerd.

[@avega2792]

@@krisv161 shut up nerd.

[@avega2792]

@@krisv161 shut up nerd.

[@tomashez9318]

Do you guys sell two stroke oil 20:1

[@resqjason2]

Did you even watch the video?

[@SOLDOZER]

You kids are dumb as dirt.

[@RonKendall48]

King Troll... I think you are the one that is dumb as dirt..get your head out of the sand..There was a time when the oil & car "engineers" said Synthetic oil was junk oil..why? Because they wanted to sell their oil. They couldn't beat em, so they joined them making their own Synthetic..plus the car manufactures started installing it at the factory. Times change, learn to adapt.

[@tomashez9318]

If you do I'll go out and buy it

[@BeulahLips]

+Tomas Hez Why would you want 20 : 1 when he just said you can use Amsoil at 100 to 1?

[@aaronbright5028]

BeulahLips because more oil=more power and more lubrication dumbass.

[@whistlindixiesmallengine2085]

@@aaronbright5028 no it doesnt...dumbass more oil means less power you want the engine to get more gas the more oil you add the richer it is and the less power you will have 2 stroke oil is strictly for lubrication purposes not power

[@aaronbright5028]

@@whistlindixiesmallengine2085 the term rich and lean applies to the amount of fuel in the mixture not oil. And btw 20:1 is the most efficient 2 stroke mix out there makes up to 8 horse more than running 50:1 with no changes but jetting

[@whistlindixiesmallengine2085]

@@aaronbright5028 yes but more oil makes your fuel mix richer so you have to lean it out more to compensate for the extra oil the more oil you put in the more gas is gonna be displaced meaning less gas to the engine and more oil witch robs you of power and makes your engine run hotter more oil means more lubrication but gas helps cool the top end of the engine to I'm not gonna argue with you iv been building 2 stroke race engines of all kinds for over 20 years from chainsaws to bikes I know what I'm talking about more oil definitely does not give you more power if anything it gives you less because your getting less fuel fuel makes power not.oil oil is there for the sole purpose of lubrication nothing more

[@wakeywakey9214]

I have you tested on Aircraft engine 2 strokes

[@2broketim479]

i've used Amsoil in my Rotax 377 at 100:1 for 12 years now... 100 degrees less on the cylinder head temps.

[@samishukir604]

Why is the video not translated into Arabic?

[@neilkaye081]

Why would an oil company suggest you use less oil? Cant be good for business

[@wayneedgerton5892]

Perhaps it is a sign of a good company!

[@577buttfan]

Its good oil don't get me wrong but NEVER run any two stroke less than 50:1 oil mix,its just plain stupidity people.

[@JakeShivers]

What if the manual says otherwise?

[@577buttfan]

@@JakeShivers most all manufacturing manuals are designed so the product will fail eventually so the service end of the product can make it's designed revenue..one thing I learned over the years.

[@JakeShivers]

@@577buttfan Makes sense. Shops make all their money in that end, and NOT selling the actual product. Thanks for the tip!

[@577buttfan]

@@JakeShivers not all but service is a huge part of there income.

[@dustin3700]

Have you done any controlled life tests on equipment to prove a leaner mix will damage an engine?

[@yuvrajsinghmaanrotaholic5017]

Maxima 927 50:1 castor smell ,amsoil rubbish

[@Monkeypumper420]

Howie Mandel should not be your spokes person. Hes slow and doesn't have the selling mojo your product deserves.

[@biteme4338]

The ratio recommended by the equipment manufacturer is what should be used. Engines are a collection of metal parts rubbing against each other at high speed, they sure don't run better, produce more power, or last just as long with less lubricant. Engines like more, but engine life and power output take a back seat to emission concerns. Amsoil makes oil, not engines. That's why they also don't address the fact that because different oil/fuel ratios have different viscosity, the fuel/air mix changes when a ratio other than what the manufacturer suggests is used.

[@tubetime39]

#1 why would a manufacturer recommend a ratio of 100:1 when most oils should only be run at 50:1 ?? #2 get your manufacturer to put in writing that you can not run Amsoil Saber at 100:1. It won't happen. If they would ( my $50 to your $5 says they won't), send it to Amsoil to prove your point.. Make sure the paper statement is legal signed and dated with all pertinent info. You really think Amsoil would risk saying, in writing, on the label, that you can use at 100:1 if it weren't true ? Synthetics weren't the real deal either 50 yrs ago in cars but only in jet engines. You make oil. You don't just pull it out of the ground. Different oil companies use different formula's & put what ever suits them in it. Amsoil decision when they came out with the First Syn for cars was to make the best. And they do, do their best to live up to that belief. My guess is that Amsoil has tested it quite rigorously. Maybe, just a hunch at up to 150:1 or even 200:1. Just a feeling but I'd bet on that too,..$50 to $5 again.

[@tubetime39]

PS, I didn't believe it when some guy told me about Amsoil. I thought he was BS-ing me. I went home a spent hours (!!!) researching it and oils. Then I first tried in an old lawn mower so i wouldn't be out much $. I was skeptical with reason, especially 12 years ago. Today I run it in everything and I run everything way harder than most people do without fear of an oil related issue. Early years I was waiting for a piston to come flying out. Transmission fluid ? Try it. Not many competing in that market.

[@tubetime39]

I'll come drive your vehicle ( or just ride in it with you),.. talking about tranny now, I'll help you, or watch you change the fluid in transmission then we'll take the vehicle out again and if there is no change I'll pay for the fluid to be changed back & pay for the Amsoil transmission fluid. 25 year old Tahoe, bought it with 140k on it 17 yrs ago. It's a second vehicle, it has 244k on it and it shifts smooth as silk & when you kick 'er down she'll shift quick and lock in without any slow slipping into the next gear. It's decisive. Engine I checked this year compression was still all up there & balanced readings at 155 psi. It wasn't a big shocker but I was a little surprised as it sits for several months at a time without any use. 2k + a year for past 8 yrs.

[@biteme4338]

@@tubetime39 My reply has been removed twice now, perhaps because I included a link to an article by Gordon Jennings. Search for '2-Stroke Oil Premix Rations - Vintagesleds' and read the article written by this author in Cycle Magazine.