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In this video I explain what climate sensitivity is and why it is important. Climate sensitivity is a number that roughly speaking tells us how fast climate change will get worse. A few years ago, after various software improvements, a bunch of climate models began having a much higher climate sensitivity than previously. Climate scientists have come up with reasons for why to ignore this. I think it's a bad idea to ignore this.
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[@robfut9954]

They aren’t disliking it because the topic. They’re doing it because politics have made climate change red team versus blue team and sides have been chosen. And the extreme ends are where the two teams live on every topic.

[@jimmyquigley7561]

Mostly in the USA where a large part of the people seem to have gone mad or stupid.

[@OlmanWillo]

​@@jimmyquigley7561I wouldn't say most. But the politics of my country have gone completely mad. You can't even speak solutions without it being called devisive

[@natevanderw]

Also Sabine politics and views and climate change have been trash in the past years

[@impishboss]

I’m more so surprised that those types of people watch this video in the first place

[@johannuys7914]

@@OlmanWillo You are definitely not unique, that's for sure. But you are very visible regarding partisan politics. Quite bizarre.

[@charactername263]

Researching the issue is difficult because google does not have relevant results for "Hot Models".

[@chublez]

Scholar dot Google

[@ElMoto-gq3ho]

Been looking at hot models all day 😏

[@HarryWHill-GA]

stop using Google.

[@oilslick7010]

Hehe...

[@ThadMiller1]

​@@HarryWHill-GAHe wrote one yt 😅

[@Baltimoreed]

There is a great satire called Don’t Look Up about ignorance being bliss until it’s too late.

[@thesquatchdoctor3356]

The Permafrost in the northern hemisphere is melting for the first time in 2 million years. And it's not only melting, it's melting from the bottom up because there's enough biomass in there for the bacteria to produce enough heat to melt adjacent permafrost. That's a lotta methane.

[@user-zp6xd1pc5z]

thats not true. we are in an ice age period and in the fourth warm period in that ice age cycle. our temperature will rise for quite some time yet and the shorter intervalls will peak between 2030-2040 than we'll have about 60 years of cooling, less than last time but still cooling. After that it turns again.

[@thesquatchdoctor3356]

@@user-zp6xd1pc5z So why is permafrost with woolly mammoth tusks in it suddenly melting? That is not short-term cycles, they've been gone for 10,000 years. Can you say the phrase "Milankovitch Cycles"? By all historic cycles we should be going into an ice age right now, not warming up.

[@limerickman8512]

So you admit the climate always changes.

[@thesquatchdoctor3356]

@@limerickman8512 Usually there's a pretty definite reason.

[@limerickman8512]

@@thesquatchdoctor3356 especially when the doom and the chicken lickens gloomers keep cherry picking dataset and leave out inconvenient facts. Also they change their narratives from "global warming " to "climate change" which is a devious shift in language, especially when the climate was never stable in earth history. In the 70s the major superpowers thought there was going to be an ice age. The fear was so real that the Americans/British subs and scientists paired up with the Soviets subs and scientists to measure the volume of ice in the Arctic. This was during the height of nuclear war fears. Yet today we are told there was no cooling which contradicts with past datasets. Also when they published the dataset each year. The old historical dataset get tweaked and does not match old published dataset. That is fraud.

[@notlessgrossman163]

I think the psychology of the lack of interest is that people will not preoccupy themselves with issues they feel powerless, as individuals, to change.

[@me-ye6ld]

That’s true, but our individual psyches are created in part by our culture and history. Our current world is not setup for cooperation and we’ve allowed selfishness to thrive. The prosocial beliefs and behaviors necessary to change things are possible for humans to adopt, but it starts at the root. Maybe there’s something to the idea of a Capitalocene rather than an Anthropocene. I don’t think this is an innate problem of the human psyche, but of the psyche of the very Europeans whose worldviews spread around the world starting around the 16th century.

[@langohr9613ify]

In principle it is a good thing we have this reflex. Because starting to panic or being depressed does not help. We evolved to concentrate on the present, getting enough food for the next winter, having enough wood to heat, finding a partner and so on. The most depressive thing to me is, that there are many things we can do quickly. We can build green energy fast, there is no physical limit in that. The technology is ready to cut down emissions by maybe 80% today. We could build millions of wind turbines, solar cells, battery storage etc. in the next 5 years and shut of most of fossil fuel. Only after that we would neet technology that is not yet developed. But why are we not doing it? Because of economical reasons. Nobody is willing to out down the mony to do this in the paste required. Many people would need to change their job from fossil to green energy really fast. Fossil assets like fossil plants would lose most of their value. We just do little to late right now and future generations are going to hate us for that.

[@kellywalker1664]

The obscene wealth of algorithm-customized distractions does not help either. 🎪

[@ellielynx3071]

That's because way back when we invented human society, we slowly stopped seeing ourselves as connected and started seeing individuals as powerful and independent. A proper perspective would be considerably more altruistic and ironically we would've been better equipped to handle current changes if we'd all had pre-social mindsets that view the family (in this case meaning the extended families of humanity and life on earth) as more important than its individual children. Because it doesn't really matter how powerless an individual is, you see; in groups, we have power, so if every individual serves the group, the group becomes nigh-invincible. That's how both disease and multicellular life, teams and hive minds alike find success. Humans technically serve their group, but we spend way more time on ourselves and don't bother acting in ways that would benefit everybody if everybody acted that way. There's no money in it.

[@trivolous28]

@@langohr9613ify I actually believe that capitalism is able to adapt relatively quickly. Like Sabine said just make carbon emission more expensive and energy providers will flock to renewable and nuclear energy to make money. There just need to be political will, which comes from the people, to make this choice which will affect them via the form of higher prices on almost everything.

[@jamesmasonaltair1062]

The thing that I like most about this brilliant, humorous lady is that when she doesn't know something, she says so. That is a real scientist. Respect and thanks!

[@THExSUDDENs]

That is what scientists do. That is what they have to be pretty good at in order to Identity new research topics. If you have the feeling this isnt been done often enough i would probably change or at least check my source because typically this is a week spot of journalist, not the scientist.

[@garyt.8745]

Science lives off "don't know"'s. The whole point of a scientist it to ecxel in turning don't knows into knows. (The _exact_ reverse of religion BTW, that _exploit_ don't knows). Journalist's tend to excel in misinterpreting science, trying to dumb it down for their readers, and screwing everything up in the process. Climate change is a great example of this, the term "global warming" is so _soft and fluffy_ that it just hasn't got the _real message_ over to the public. Messaging IS important, as _any_ politician will agree.

[@antoniosanders477]

Weird. What I noticed was hackneyed superficial banter.

[@webantony]

Hi Sabine, I was really surprised by the dramatic forecast you gave at the end. I have seen in my life several major themes that would or should have ended or disrupted civilization. Overpopulation, global warming, thermonuclear war, ozone depletion and rising sea levels are but a few. Your forecast sounded so much like that type of talk. It has made me lose some confidence in you as a scientific commentator. I have a mathematics and physics background and have always enjoyed listening to your commentary on the physics fields. I have always felt you are an expert on physics matters. When you see that you get the most dislikes on your videos regarding climate change, I suspect the answer could be that you do not come across as such an expert on this topic. I disliked this video and did so because I felt it was the case. It is a sad outcome and something you should look into. It is likely I am not the only one who has formed this view. Anyhoo, I wish you a great day and will remain subscribed. Kindest regards, Tony

[@lucar.923]

Sure? “Unvaccinated are a danger to themselves and others. Of course, they should not have the same rights and freedoms as vaccinated people. Anyone who intentionally puts others in danger has to live with the consequences.” Sabine 🤡 Hossenfelder - 2021

[@NotACupcake]

I have just realized overtime that it’s just a dream that one person could make a difference. I do my part, I don’t drive everyday, I work from home, I recycle everything, electronics, clothes, etc. I’m trying my best and hoping others can too

[@MaryAnnNytowl]

One person, plus one person, plus one person, over and over and over, CAN make a difference. And there's one difference we can make which you didn't mention. VOTE. Vote for whoever in your country doesn't deny the issue, whoever wants to do the work to keep the planet livable for at least most of us. In the USA, for example, that is the Democratic Party. The other "team" is too busy tearing itself apart trying to kiss a felon's arse, while that felon keeps tossing them under the bus for profit and power.

[@jojostalino1377]

Useless af bro i'm sorry. As useful as a group of prayer for someone having terminal cancer. Even "Working from home" Requires a massive infrastructure for the phone, the laptop etc. The entire system is corrupted. States could just ban plastic, for example. And they don't. why ? They could make train mainstream again. They don't. and so on and so forth. just greenwashing and auto virtue signaling but nothing true

[@qsa6089]

than work on solutions how to feed yourself without the need of the power of the fire. if you can't even do it for you, you cant help anyone else

[@bobhiggins4276]

And support - though so much harder to achieve - the elimination of fossil fuels and the influence of corporate power on policy. Amen

[@KatlaJokulsdottir]

One thing you can do is to get your friends join you. What I think works best is to not dwell on accusations and threats, but practical suggestions to empower them to do things. E.g. don't say to your colleague "you are guilty because your car pollutes the environment" but say "I started cycling to work. It's brilliant - I feel so much more energised after cycling 20min every morning, I've already lost 2kg and yes, it also makes me happy that this is better for the environment. Thinking of it, you also have a bike, don't you? Wanna join next week?" If you can persuade 5 friends or family members to do stuff - and there's a lot an average person in a wealthy country can do without unduly making their lives miserable, just with a bit of creativity and discipline - you have already greatly increased your CO2 savings. And maybe your 5 friends eventually convince some of their friends... And I do hope that people who engage a bit in saving CO2 themselves will be more willing to accept, and vote for, highly necessary government action too.

[@rathke444]

'The dinossaurs forgot to back-up their satellite images.' You should print this sentence in a mug and sell it.

[@petersall1055]

Thats not the "hot models" i was hyped for 😢

[@opheliawild]

I needed a good laugh after watching this video. Thanks.

[@opheliawild]

@@user-ki4ek9wn1l Yes b/c you clearly, a stranger online, know far better than a scientist how the world and systems work. And you know better than me, even though I studed economics at the doctoral level. But what do I know?

[@boncret]

@@user-ki4ek9wn1l She obviously knows more about the topic than you. Here in Germany we are more aware about the problem. Island states or low lands like the Netherlands also... Just the ducking super powers think they can decide how ever they want... thanks for messing it up for everyone else.

[@Harold046]

​@@opheliawild You're right, but your arguments are invalid. Being a scientist doesn't make her an expert in all scientific fields, and it turns out she did trigger a response from an actual climate scientist. As for the economic doctorate level... well... only people who have studied economics think economy is a serious field of study :D !

[@markanthony4354]

if ppl dont know about the climate scam by now, they deserve to be robbed in taxes @@user-ki4ek9wn1l

[@SieNoel]

I live in the Phoenix area, dotted with the Sonoran Saguaro cactus - which have a lifespan of up to 200 years. We had record breaking heat last summer, with over 30 consecutive days with highs of 110+, and the nighttime air was too hot for them, they lost a ton of moisture during their air exchange period when they open their pores after sundown. I went on a hike last sunday and the McDowell Sonoran preserve was littered with the bones of fallen giants, Saguaros decades+ old that has died over the summer. I've never seen anything like it.

[@karlwheatley1244]

That's heartbreaking.

[@mostlycloudy1738]

Why do all the elites buy sea front property if the ice caps are melting 😂😂 think about it

[@natephill7041]

@mostlycloudy1738 they arnt thinking about 20 years from now. They are thinking "I want to live on the beach"

[@karlwheatley1244]

@@mostlycloudy1738 "Why do all the elites buy sea front property if the ice caps are melting 😂😂 think about it" There's nothing the think about--sea level rise is a terrible thing we have done to future generations--our emissions in the past and now have ripple effects for up to 150 years, but the serious effects won't happen for awhile for most places. Right now, sea level rise is only ~4.6 mm/yr, so there's no reason for elites to not buy beachfront property that sits 10 feet above the waves.

[@lirvaen]

@@mostlycloudy1738 Using crying emojis in a smug way has to be a sing of very low IQ.

[@teresamessenger5399]

I'm a mother. I'm a concerned human. I l want the best for future generations. Thank you Sabine. I'm very very concerned.

[@augusttgrassi]

I live in Brazil, and recently we had the biggest climate catastrophe recorded in Rio Grande do Sul, Porto Alegre, one of the largest capitals in Brazil was completely flooded, thousands of people literally lost everything, diseases such as leptospirosis increased, dengue fever, which was previously a The problem in the north and central region now affects the south because it is hotter and this time practically all year round, not just in the summer. We are in very difficult times friends, hope that one day we can all agree on a solution, I'm counting on you too

[@Bobbel888]

Rain falls may be invoked by silver oxide in the higher atmosphere. Also in Europe we recently observed an increased ratio of sulfur dioxide, followed by a temperature drop. There seem to by undocumented experiments to control weather. From this it's not clear what the actual reason for your documented catastrophe is.

[@Bobbel888]

Why the single answer not displayed?

[@GodelFishbreath]

Equatorial countries will have it worse. Agreed: We are in very difficult times friends, hope that one day we can all agree on a solution.

[@jasonfirewalker3595]

Stay strong.

[@Helieos45]

CO2 helps plants grow. Our planet is 5% greener than 20 years ago, thanks to CO2. We are still in an ice age let's get out of the ice age and melt this fucken ice. The dinosaurs had 3000 ppm of co2, and their temperature was only 27 Celsius. We have 430 ppm only 0.04 percent of our atmosphere. Our weakening magnetosphere is what is driving climate change, not CO2.

[@SeanKStephens]

"The problem is that we can't agree to implement the solutions we have." Loud standing ovation here.

[@keiganblaise9878]

Yep. And it's so. Fucking. Aggravating.

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@keiganblaise9878 what is aggravating? You have no idea how complex these things are! No idea whatsoever! What's actually aggravating is the shallow interpretations of people who think they understand such complex scientific domains and the extend of consequences of the offered solutions.

[@RebellionBloodshed]

Video Tittle: Let them slave us with carbon taxes ASAP!!!!

[@scumoftheearth4246]

​@@C_R_O_M________what exactly is you alternative? Keep debating until there is 100% proof and evidence for exactly how some process is happening? Which by the way has pretty much never been reached in science, and is not the purpose of science. So, what's you suggestion, just go on as usual not changing anything based on the understanding we now have, because it is too "complex"?

[@garremannen]

This woman is part of the problem. A smart person whoknows numbers is given a large set of fake numbers and is also given a reason for the fake numbers. Not knowing the area at all she is duped into thinking there is a problem. Even many smart people dont know how to think for themselves.

[@stephenphoenix2919]

It has been my observation that there are a lot of people that vote to save the planet but almost none that will do anything if it involves actual change in their lifestyle. Thus, if the models are actually correct, then the situation can only be resolved with calamity.

[@SabineHossenfelder]

Unfortunately I'm afraid that might be corredt

[@drbuckley1]

No one is willing to accept real sacrifices to benefit strangers.

[@louisesumrell6331]

This is true, but never forget that, for true change, an honest effort by government and industry is essential. They create markets and mass consent on a regular basis. They must do that in regard to the climate crisis...or we are in for a lot of trouble...

[@osmosisjones4912]

2023 had most Carbon reductions . carbon dioxide blocks heat both ways. The molecule is to dense to hold much energy

[@johnoglesby-vw7ck]

Our modern society,as an overreaction to the socially conscious movements, is so individualized only personal trouble seems to motivate (and then, only individual action for the most part)

[@belenista_]

I'm from Argentina, and even though we are far from the equator, we are having extremes temperatures every summer, with alternating big floods and droughts. This year we had a dengue epidemic, something that never happened before. With the rising temperatures, the aedes mosquitoes are now reaching the south of the country, and they are not likely to die in the winter, because winters are not that cold anymore. When I was young, freezing temperatures where something usual in the south of the Buenos Aires province, and now these are becoming less frequent every year. Coordinated global action is needed to change our energy infrastructure. All the world should be relying on nuclear energy, but with the increasing geopolitical tensions, with so much hatred all around the world, the fear of nuclear energy being used in the wrong sense is prevailing over the climate crisis. You could be skeptical of climate change 20 years ago. Today if you deny the global warming you are just someone totally incapable of seeing the world around you. This should be everyone's concern, but governments are making money with the war machine instead of investing those efforts in making world civilization sustainable. Civilization, what a word, every year that passes the world looks more like what Carl Sagan envisioned in The Demon Hunted World, with societies being drafted into magical thinking and obscurantism.

[@JasonThorneMagicLAMP]

Well said. The problem is that if it isn't so obvious that it hurts unbearably, people wont believe it applies to them. When this starts to become globally obvious, it will be too late and nature will take its course. Getting coordinated action on this is like herding cats. Working out who is to blame is pointless. Working out what to do? Panic? Buy some farmland somewhere that is going to be able to sustain cattle and crops when the temperature rises, take yourself, your family and anyone else you trust and will follow you there, and work hard so at least your progeny survive? Is the world going to get nasty?

[@user-hv1fm4ug7e]

Happening in Nova Scotia Canada, it spring time having July weather and milder winters..

[@oldylad]

We’re also in a warm period with the end happening around 2030-40. It’s bad, but it’s not as bad. I hate the fear monger of and lies. It’s for a good purpose, but the way we get there as just as important

[@JasonThorneMagicLAMP]

@@oldylad It isn't climate change. It is the concept that the human race does not have enough self control to be ethical, to work together, to share and do without a little, even when faced with a prospect of a horrible death for their family, community and themselves. This is not a sustainable community.

[@TheMookie1590]

This is why I hate the entire topic, its like don lemon saying hes 40 years old. And hes never seen tornadoes this bad before. therefor man made climate change is true and we must stop oil. overnight. when you zoom out and see the climate patterns that isnt on the time scale of how long a human lives. youll see patterns. even more so when you look into the hokeye stick model is fabricated with manipulated data. weve been coming out of an ice age for a while. the earth was all ready warming, naturally as it. then it will do what it has done and go into an ice age with more time. its even funnier to me. when we get hit by objects from space that will be so destructive it wouldn't matter anyway. your normalcy bias is not how the climate is. your few decades of life isnt not indicative of the normal. were in a natural cycle with little control. even more so on the time scales of 10's and 100s of years natural climate patters. why I dont care and hate the topic. people think climate should be static in reference to their child climates. which is the most non scientific way to think about anything. and seasons shift with time as well, naturally. there are many cycles. dont just your yearly. historically, warm periods like this is when there is more growth. climate cooling is far worse than warming, be careful not to make a system and force an unpredictable ice age.

[@richardsheppard3961]

In Zambia. Never known heat like this. And no rain. Very worrying.

[@chickenlover657]

That's cuz we got all your rain. You can have it back, I hate it.

[@raidensama1511]

Sucks to be you.

[@MonkeyRiot-ui7xb]

I'm from central South Africa and over the course of the last 10 years we haven't been able to trust expected weather patterns. We're used to wet summers in the 30-35 (Celsius) range and it's been going into drought temperatures (40-45) with little to no rain for a long period and a sudden flood-causing burst every season. Our national average temp has also increased twice as fast as the global temperatures since the early 90's so the impact of this is a very tangible non-debatable issue here, especially in the agricultural sector.

[@user-qv6sn9xy9k]

Yes, it would hit your region faster and harder than certain other parts of the world. I live in Cleveland Ohio (USA) and our change is milder. This does allow for more people in my region to remain ignorant and blind to the science.

[@flopunkt3665]

​@@user-qv6sn9xy9k Some parts of the US are very affected. Just think of the year-long drought and all the wildfires in California.

[@andeanrider6355]

Maybe this is caused by the increased solar activity of the sun. We are near the end of an 11-year solar cycle. But nobody wants to say this as there's no money in it.

[@hersenskim]

I'm from the Northern part of South Africa (pretoria) I can honestly say that our weather patterns have not changed noticeably in the past 30 years (which is how far back I can remember)

[@SpiritusMundi3]

45 year old from Johannesburg, can definitely say I’ve experienced a change in weather patterns over the years (anecdotal yes, but I count for at least one observer)

[@nerdcave0]

I've noticed that whenever something troubling emerges, it always seems to the tip of a way bigger iceberg than we realized.

[@JeffMountainPicker]

I agree, I think; (you've omitted a word or two, between "always" and "bigger".) Thank you!

[@dwaynezilla]

Because people keep burying their heads in the sand until it cannot be ignored.

[@vhawk1951kl]

The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature. It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate. Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.) ‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars. If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit. If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'. If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.

[@1aggin_5amurai]

I can't believe it. I'm watching it now, 2 months since publishing, and there's still no 200 people subbed to the cause after 1.6M views, cause I subbed now with sabina code and got my free month :(

[@1EQUALS-INFINITY]

I do my own thing with reofrestation and permaculture.

[@Grisomsun]

It's not even a recognized charity organization. Seems scammy as hell to me, whole point of charity is requiring the publishing of where the money is going, without it, it's just buying rich hippies their next suite of camera upgrades.

[@McCbobbish]

This is also pretty consistent with the anecdotal observation that we seem to be hitting negative effects at lower levels of heating than previously thought

[@nvoitek]

For me, I'm tired of this topic not because I don't believe in it, but because knowing more about it actively makes my life more depressing and worse, while I can't really change my life in a way that solves this problem.

[@stormchaser9753]

The climate has to change. It’s not a static thing. It can’t be static.

[@RuepelPauleTV]

@@stormchaser9753 Look up dunning-kruger effect. Please try not to ignore facts.

[@ronintage]

@@stormchaser9753 What climate scientist have you seen saying that climate is static?

[@flixelgato1288]

I’m tired of it specifically because I trust it, but because no matter how much more I learn about it, how much irrefutable evidence I see, I still know there are so plenty of potato brains in the world who prefer to live in denial, let propagandists tell them everything’s fine, and hinder efforts to do something about it.

[@user72974]

I empathize with you, but I disagree that there's nothing you can do. You're right that you can't change your lifestyle to solve it because you're just one person. But what one person can do is stay engaged politically. Like it or not, politics is intrinsic to how we live our lives. It's literally us having a say in how things should be done. Write to your reps, attend meetings, donate, sign petitions (or even make new ones), etc. There are plenty of ways to stay engaged and you're probably going to find one or two that work for you if you give it a try. (Forgive me if you already are - on the internet, context is hard)

[@PauloGodoy-wx4rm]

I live in Brazil. And in these models, there is still no room for unexpected effects that we don't yet know about. For example, for some time we did not know about the possibility of savannaization of the Amazon forest, nor about the aerial rivers that flow over the forest. And we still don't know if this phenomenon stops, what will happen to the climate on a global scale. We have many variables. And they all seem to point to the worst.

[@nuklearboysymbiote]

The amazon really is a huge part of the global ecosystem… it can't be allowed to die!!

[@nuklearboysymbiote]

@@acmhfmggru if u can't see the amazon dying you're willfully ignorant.

[@poetmaggie1]

I discovered years ago that big cities are deserts and have more severe winters and summers than the area's around them. In Phoenix AZ the rain can be all around the valley in the summer but there is none in the valley or very little because of extra heat generated by the town.

[@riverrun7061]

Most plants are not climate zone locked as you suggest. I'm in zone 7. Most plants that I would ordinarily grow usually would do well from like zone five or so all the way up to zone 9 or 10 depending on the plant. It's not like all the zone 7 plants die as soon as it gets hot enough to be zone 8.

[@kontrygrll01amerika54]

True there are always microclimates like the one in the mountains of Western North Carlins mountains where they had 4 citrus trees growing with no problem because it never got down to freezing in that spot even back in the 1980s.

[@strangnet]

Don’t forget other relevant factors such as soil and nutrition, and the changes to the co2 concentration.

[@riverrun7061]

@@strangnet Yeah fair enough, but she seems to suggest that basically as soon as the zone shifts the plants die but that's not how anything works otherwise you wouldn't be able to grow corn etc in different areas of the country.

[@johnhege6502]

Sabine, I've always enjoyed your no bullshit presentations and I respect this one. I live in a rural area in a temperate zone on a piece of property that has been in my family for almost 70 years. I have seen the landscape change from as long as a person can remember. I have seen the first frost which used to occur in September move to late November and the ice on the nearby pond go from thin, but lasting for the month of January to becoming a rare and short lived event. I have seen the vegetation and the animal life change, mostly the insect life. I have seen the yellow pines wiped out by infestations of pine beetles and have observed that the white pines that used to thrive in this area are now barely hanging on and mostly dying. Fir and spruce used to grow here but they are all gone and the ones that I have planted in the last few years never last long. I will be trying to plant long leaf pines soon just to see what they do, the northern edge of their range used to be a couple hundred miles to the south but I suspect they will do better now if they aren't wiped out by some new infestation of insects. Every spring brings a new species of insect. We've gone from having one species of tick that was just a nuisance in the summer to having seven species of ticks, some of which are active all year round. I could go on by I'll spare you and your viewers. Just saying, if I had never seen a news article on climate change, I would be wondering what the hell has been going on and would be asking the scientists about it. I'm not optimistic, but I am observant. Thanks for scaring the hell out of me. I'm 66 years old and my health is not great so I might not see the worst of the coming effects but my children and grand children will. Thanks for scaring the hell out of me.

[@AMPProf]

this one got spooky

[@tomschmidt381]

We are in a pretty similar situation. My wife and I moved to southern NH 40+ years ago and have witnessed the changes that have occurred over that timeframe. Living in a rural area makes you acutely aware of how finely adjusted flora and fauna is to the micro- climate of the area.

[@farmboypresents9977]

I have a farm in New Zealand, ive been scared for a couple of years now. Winter, if we have one is 2 months later than it used to be and the sun is hotter than ever. I suspect we will have trouble growing traditional crops within a short time and that we will be too slow to change. The world wont miss us but i worry for my daughters lives.

[@Burnrate]

I remember watching ice sailboat races on the rivers in New Jersey as a kid. The rivers don't freeze at all anymore

[@Patrick_Ross]

@@farmboypresents9977 - you are right to be worried. The younger generations are in for a world of hurt.😞

[@Suggsonbass]

"No I'm not asking you to like this video, I don't even like it myself" sent a chill up my spine

[@Hentai-Semite]

Abusing climate fear for 3 videos in a short period of times to generate clicks sent a chill up mine.

[@peter9477]

​@@Hentai-Semite You don't fear climate change at all. Don't be disingenuous.

[@ThatOpalGuy]

@@Hentai-Semite one person here spoke truth...and it wasn't you. Chill that.

[@hinenik]

@@Hentai-Semite Keep looking for fair ways of comunicating unfair problems while the ones that don't care at all keep the bussiness as usual

[@glynemartin]

You scare too easily...

[@Zazizzlicious]

I’m just trying to keep my head above water; figuratively and literally.

[@tommygreist9560]

I've lived here in N. Florida for 50 years and I have noticed how much hotter and quickly water in the swamps dry up... So hot.

[@petrichor649]

I'm 60 and have seen changes, one is the lack of flying insects, over 40 years ago, I'd return from a summer ride on my motorbike and would barely be able to see through the insect smeared visor, these days four or five insects over the whole visor.

[@RichardHamilton-tu1zq]

You're probably thinking of the 1979 greenfly explosion. Like all these events, just one of those things that happens occasionally. Nothing to worry about. There is no man-made climate change.

[@kdmarrison8845]

Couldn’t be the huge increase in telecom masts & the 1000s 3:42 & 1000s of low orbiting telecom satellites. There’s a rumour that insects, birds etc may be sensitive to emf environments Even us! & there has been a huge increase in the incidence of a once rare brain cancer glioblastoma as well as an increase in heart & brain conditions among young & middle age adults & an explosion in dementia in older adults Must be climate change!

[@bobsacamano1274]

Which explains the dramatic collapse in amphibian populations, in particular frogs and toads. I’m in my 60s too and have observed that the world of my youth and the world we live in now aren’t the same - and I don’t like it. I blame humans. We’re the cause of climate change and I have little faith in our willingness to address the crises that lies ahead. God help us…

[@robbob1866]

I've been a truck driver for about 35 years and I've noticed the same. Vehicles used to be caked in bugs. There's a highway that goes through Toronto and 30 years ago I'd have to constantly clean my windscreen. Now, no matter where I drive there are hardly any insects. I emailed a Monarch researcher in Michigan mentioning that on my drives, on average, I would count between 70 to 90 Monarchs hitting my truck every day not counting the possible near hits or the ones I didn't see. During peak migration I've counted 120 to 140. She wasn't impressed which blew my mind. I don't hear bird song anymore, and this is the first year I haven't had any mice getting into my house. Things are bad

[@ahaveland]

I'm also 60 and noticed this too. It's one of the scariest examples of baseline shift. Young people see this as normal and don't know how different and rich our world used to be.

[@Rose-pk6ss]

I’m currently studying sustainable design Engineering. Everyone told me it’s not worth it, but listening to this video now I feel like I made the right decision.

[@thellgschild1978]

it definItly is, keep it up!

[@davidcarter8269]

You are doing a service, while things like going vegetarian/saving energy are good, this is a step toward large-scale change.

[@scepticalchymist]

Within a capitalist society sustainability does not work eventually. Most people speaking of it just use it for marketing purposes. The idea is nice, but idealists are the people who end up getting abused by our society.

[@yahiiia9269]

"Sustainable design engineering" done by humans will never be sustainable. You are marginally decreasing destruction, because your bosses will NOT PAY for actual sustainable development.

[@thellgschild1978]

@@scepticalchymist ye you right so lets just keep rollin the way we used to till the great downfall of humanity

[@Lennie8926]

This is exactly what I needed to hear despite my anxiety, the mainstream media is too afraid to tell us what the true projections are and also what the consequences might be. I read a projection of 3 degrees temperature increase in The Guardian a few weeks ago with no discussion of what it means for the average person for example. It made it sound that it would just be an extra bit of a sun holiday every year. I agree wholeheartedly with the importance of not gluing yourself to things or throwing soup at paintings, it's so pointless and increases the likelihood of people going the other way. And yes, the migration and increase in warfare due to lack of resources and opportunity is probably going to have the biggest direct impact. Frankness is needed no matter how difficult it is, at the moment we are sleepwalking ourselves and our future generations into something that cannot be reversed. People in the developing world will suffer most, and that will also have consequences on us in the developing world too, even if it is as trivial a thing as not being able to have mangoes anymore with your breakfast. We cannot shy away from this any longer. On a happier note, the lynxes in Germany existing also cheered me up. Keep doing what you're doing!

[@Agislife1960]

I realize it's just one place but the record high temperatures where i live in the State of TX happened in 1980

[@Waares]

"Now, I'm not asking you to like this video, I don't really like it myself" got me to like the video

[@patrickhydar]

bunch of wank. one person does something unexpected and you're like "WOW THAT WAS SO COOL" and like it

[@nobodyimportant7804]

Too bad real climate scientists have been dunking on her since she put this laughable video up.

[@beamis86]

I liked that comment too.

[@nai1729]

@@nobodyimportant7804whom? link them

[@PoochieCollins]

@@nobodyimportant7804 the only video I could find from a professed climate scientist responding directly to this video was by "ClimateAdam." He disagreed with a chunk of what this woman says, but also implicated that man-made global warming is a very real thing, and addressing it in the long run is important.

[@skabbmask]

My anxiety is actually reduced by seeing people taking this seriously. Even though I've completely abandoned all hope, it's nice to not feel gaslighted about the problem :)

[@JesterAzazel]

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[@jaredkaye3669]

Learn how to cook tofu, chia seeds in lemonade, bread, rice beans, low sodium plant-based and you will lower your carbon footprint. Chia seeds are organic, have a complete protein and are 35% fiber for maintaining adequate moisture in the colon.

[@lorrainegatanianhits8331]

Weakling. Climate isn't spiraling out of control. Your mental health and rationality are. If you desire information on climate history, please look at Tony Heller's work.

[@kittimcconnell2633]

I hear you! It's madness hearing denial of facts in common conversations, especially about something as essential as our climate. Farmers have been worried for decades.

[@violettracey]

@@jaredkaye3669Thanks!

[@ericvdavies]

Hi Sabine. Thanks for your videos. I can't say I enjoy them all but I do find them very informative. There was one curious thing I found about this video however, that was your strong suggestion that we should adopt large scale nuclear power. Some time ago one of your videos made the point that about 10% of current global warming is caused by waste heat from human activity, I seem to recall; waste heat from boiling the kettle, cooling our homes etc. If nuclear energy was addopted on large scale that would become a significant factor in global warming because it is new energy introduced into the environment. Alternatively, energy from renewable sources such as solar or wind, is energy that would have been in the environment anyway, it is energy temporarily diverted for our own use before being released. I would be curious to hear your thoughts on this. I live in Australia where solar and wind power are vastly cheaper than nuclear and much faster to build, even taking into account the need for long term storage such as pumped hydro.

[@Ksu_]

I love this channel! you're brilliant Sabine, and explain everything so well

[@C0wCakes]

I'm Australian, spent the first half of my life growing fruit, 4th generation to do so. We started seeing measurable change in 1980s. Increased hail, higher temps burning fruit and higher minimum temperatures affecting fruit budding. The harvesting season has moved to earlier in year by about 3 weeks. Bush fire season can be up to 8 months or more now. Australia has always had extremes but now the extremes are extreme. As modelling and now reality shows we are one of the most affected countries with climate change. Already more sensitive crops are having to either move south or higher in altitude. This of course has limitations, especially altitude. Already a very dry continent with over use of irrigation growing the wrong crops the future doesn't fill me with delight. And that's not mentioning the affects on our ocean fisheries or our wonderful unique wildlife.

[@bec5250]

Also Australian, and have noticed the same. It is heart-breaking, and still we continue down the same stupid path.

[@hogandromgool2062]

Tomatoes here in Nz have become notoriously hard to grow because our UV levels atm are through the roof

[@leebee3845]

😂😂 you don't "notice" climate change, it happens over time scales more vast than a humans life time or 2. What you are seeing is called the weather. Yes it can and does fluctuate. Its not global warming.

[@jannikheidemann3805]

Weren't water rights in Australia also tradable like stocks?

[@AndrewRoberts11]

The forecast depletion of 50% of the Globe's aquifers, by 2050, will force starvation and mass population migrations, decades before average temperatures are forecast to make the cultivation of the existing crops impossible, if there were only the goundwater. Places like Saudi have already banned the use of groundwater for agriculture, as for now they can sell oil to import food, and burn oil to desalinate water. Though Australia, China, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Iran, Turkey, Mexico, Spain, USA, ..., aren't is the same position, and have 4bn bodies dependent on pumping ground water.

[@NJase]

the fact that this video is only a day old and has over 14k comments already, with over half a million views, pretty much says it all. it doesn't matter what stance a body takes on the topic, it drives people to engage with the topic. i feel bad for whoever Sabine's community manager is (especially if it's herself) 'cause those comments are going to range from the rage cage murder threat comments to the supportive thanks for the information comments.

[@brandonvasser5902]

Climate change is real. Both sides can agree. The problem for me and alot of us is, WE are doing ALOT more than anyone else. And it gets used to push “The Green New Deal” ala AOC. Why don’t Greta and AOC go to China and get them to make changes? They want us to give them trillions of dollars for solar panels that they don’t bother to invest in themselves. They have more than quadrupled their emissions since 2000. They’ve built more coal power plants than the rest of the world combined last year… which they also managed to accomplish the year before that as well. We’ll build better sustainable housing and China will keep building ghost cities of skyscrapers. Dumping trash into the ocean. And creating so much air pollution that 2 million people die a year in their country from it.

[@NE0Nwhip]

The 1% know which videos to push, bc they're part of the agenda. I would question videos high in popularity, & not automatically think there's something valid in it.

[@godfreyofbouillon966]

@@NE0Nwhip I assume you dont get your head checked only because psychiatrists are also part of the agenda? :D

[@W333L]

@@NE0Nwhipso I see you’re in the first camp huh

[@TerryConspiracy420]

. *Was the Garden of Eden supercharged with atmospheric CO2?* Fact... *All human activity = only 4% of Global CO2 production today.* Volcanoes alone, are dumping more CO2 into the atmosphere in a matter of weeks than humans do in a year. Fact... Colorless, odorless atmospheric CO2 is the exact opposite of air pollution, and actually stimulates healthy plant and animal growth.. Fact... During the Age of Dinosaurs, atmospheric CO2 was well over 5,000 ppm. Fact... The 500,000,000 year average for atmospheric CO2 is well over 1,000 ppm. Since the last Ice Age 12,000 years ago, atmospheric CO2 has doubled to 420 ppm. . *Can you see how far from "normal" CO2 levels we still are today?* . *Stop feeling guilty about human activity creating CO2.* As long as the trends are towards a warmer climate, we all have to stop being afraid of our naturally changing climate over time, and enjoy the ride (my opinion). Who disagrees with any of these facts?... Anyone? All of these facts are easy to prove true, so, who/what is promoting Global Fear of Climate Change, and why are they doing it? *Answer:... If you have not personally investigated the World Ecinomic Forum Great Reset 2030 Agenda yet, now's the time.*

[@nancyshinn2037]

You are amazing and explain these subjects so well that I really enjoy your channel!

[@EqualitySmurf]

I liked your off script rant, because it echoes my thoughts related to some of the bigger challenges facing us going forward. The apparent indifference regarding climate change, AI and pandemics etc. makes me think that it's quite possible we are going to "great filter" ourselves.

[@jamesmziegler]

50 years ago, hitting 100° was a big deal where I live. It rarely happened. Last summer we hit 100° for 30 days straight. We suffered drought and farmers lost crops. It's been really hot for about a decade now.

[@wallace_films]

It’s crazy

[@chmd22]

Where I live, in SE PA, USA, it feels like the opposite. This is anecdotal, but I’d say summers tend to be cooler and wetter than they used to. But winters are way warmer. Snow is becoming rare.

[@somerando7191]

​@chmd22 NJ here. Snow is far from rare. We haven't been slammed in a few years, mid-90s and late 2000's were the last time I remember blizzards that dropped several feet of snow. In the mid 2010's we had those "polar vortexes" those winters were brutally cold. The last few winters have been relatively mild.

[@pkendlers]

It's a natural occurrence. Ever hear of the dust bowl? Nature does stuff. The sun, the earth, the sky... Everything is in flux. It always has been.

[@oldspammer]

A few years ago in July or so, it snowed in both hemispheres. When it snows in summer in North America--that's climate change. The recorded temperature history is too short a time to be considered entirely useful in climate determinations such as what is "natural" variability? CO-2 is plant food, so what do they do? Biofuels--cut down and burn forests. When normally green trees would absorb and thereby sink carbon from the atmosphere, idiots are paid to destroy forests--that makes no sense. Who paid them? Where I am a few years ago they had the coldest day on record in over a century, but that lasted only a day or so, and then the temperature went back up high again. Naysayers. They always seem to be wrong. What is to say that Dr. Helmut Fluhrer's precipitation-influencing ionic atmospheric layer devices have not been deployed and used to promote globalism? In 2010 his company was known as Metro Systems and his company made artificial rainstorms in Abu Dhabi UAE for about 50 of 60 days when normally there is no precipitation at all. Now his company is named Weathertec. Born in Germany, and living in Switzerland, Fluhrer's critics are naysayers who base their criticisms on absolutely nothing. That's like saying that there is no causal link between smoking cigarettes and lung cancer--also known as tobacco science. Thick rainstorm clouds in the daytime cast very dark shadows that block the sun's rays from reaching the surface and heating it. What if clouds at nighttime were eliminated to let surface-level heat disperse into outer space. What is the capacity of outer space to dissipate such radiation? Thereby, any daytime accumulated heat can be cast into outer space by clearing the skies at night. The ionic polarization of the atmosphere can be altered by throwing a polarity switch on such atmospheric layer ionization machines. Wikipedia used to have a citation of Metro Systems weather modification experiments of 2010. The article had the information excized. Who would have that be done? Hmmm? reference: business journal artificial rainstorms abu dhabi uae In this case, climate change can be compelled by the constant operation of such equipment to whatever purpose is desired--heating or cooling. Energy saving or energy-wasting on heating or cooling. The people with huge amounts of money pay hired goons to enforce their will on the rest of us. Some guy invents a 100 mpg v-8 carburetor in the 1920s. What happens? Lead is added to gas as an anti-knock agent that just happens to clog such carburetor designs--coincidence--I think NOT! Some video on KZbin explains that the addition of lead to gas ended up killing a lot of people with this additive. Lead and other heavy metals are known causes of brain damage. Experiments were done with WW1 battleship hull painters to get rid of their lead poisoning. Those who had heart conditions said that the treatment made their heart condition disappear. Later that treatment was banned so that heart surgeons would not lose any business. Fake studies were done to pooh-pooh the entire finding. Science is for sale--a corrupt business you could find anywhere in our corrupted world where love of money motivates the masses to do immoral things that damage themselves and their loved ones. Seems that the rich want to get richer and lord over the rest of us. Some schemes should be invented, not Marxism, that counteracts the evils of Marxism such as central banking and control of financial systems by constantly changing monetary policies and encouraging people not to work by giving more people handouts whenever they vote for them. How to undo corruption? Advanced lie detection systems, truth serums, and a list of pointed questions to unearth corruption and its network of influencers and financial supporters. Punish the guilty rather than the innocent.

[@owenoulton9312]

Never stop talking about it, and don't apologise, Sabine. It's one of the most important subjects of modern times.

[@paddleed6176]

No it isn't

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"Never stop talking about it, and don't apologise" Show some FAITH! Believe!

[@leonstenutz6003]

​@@paddleed6176 Just curious. How old are you and where do you live? I'm 54. Cochabamba, Bolivia. Suggestiin: look up #JHAT, Just Have A Think.

[@mercurialsilver5688]

@@thomasmaughan4798 Or, you know, do what Sabine does and show some evidence. That thing the Abrahamic religions never do for the supernatural.

[@pixelforg]

These guys will deny any evidence shown to them but they'll wholeheartedly believe in supernatural beings without any evidence 😂

[@user-el2xw5wj4h]

Love your videos, your mind is great. Subscribed!

[@kyrd]

Great video, hope that more people will be able to appreciate it

[@freedom_born]

13:16 Hearing you curse is such a weird surprise. I felt that frustration

[@4848277]

All else aside, it kind of turns me on when she swears. 😍

[@jr7853]

It's very hard to feel anyone is serious when we aren't switching to nuclear power. Especially if China and India don't switch first. We share 1 atmosphere.

[@seangomez2331]

​@@jr7853nuclear power isn't a panacea. It isn't going to cleanse the environment of micro plastics andnforever chemicals, it isn't going to reverse the greenhouse gas feedback loop, it isn't going to regrow the forests, it isn't going to restock global fisheries. Nuclear power is a piece of the puzzle, and only a piece that's meant to replace the fuel that our civilization runs on not ensure it's sustainability, even though it is less of a carbon footprint I believe it would only keep the status quo, i.e. capitalism.

[@lrvogt1257]

@@jr7853 : Who is "anyone" in that scenario? The public doesn't decide these things. The people who want nuclear have to get investors and they tend to be big money losers. China invests more in nuclear and renewables than any other country. India is still a distant 3rd to the US in carbon emissions.

[@williamfarnaby]

you know what? too late: "experts" have been telling us the end of the world is near for at least 50 years. I don't blame anyone for not believing "scientists"

[@WMAlbers1]

What worries me most is that the Keeling curve doesn't show any change from its exponential growth the last 10 years. Only in 1991-1992 there was a tiny, tiny dip, arguably due to Mount Pinatubo eruption, or collapse of the Sovjet Union. So, CO2 reductions have not been registered...

[@osmosisjones4912]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6PJpYl8jbiFqdE

[@Hentai-Semite]

Dec 3rd 1972 50 top scientists met at Brown University to write an open letter to Nixon to save us from the coming ice age by melting the arctic by covering it with soot. Jan 5th 1978 NYT International team of spspecialist finds no end in sight of 30 year cooling trend in noerthern hemisphere. The same year a world Meteorologist meeting was held in Geneva to counter global cooling

[@beskydyk]

China.

[@navarre4717]

​@@beskydyk And then wait for India and else

[@hinenik]

@@beskydyk China has increased his carbon emissions but also because most countries are externalising its production, which means that we're mostly buying things that were made there (and so polluted there). It's unfair to say that Europe is a "clean" region when that comes at the price of polluting in the other side of the globe.

[@user-hz8uc9iu8c]

possibly people have been disliking because of the nature of the initial introduction of the topic on mainstream media, the lack of follow-up, and how superficial and 'condemning' the news was. without any word of what to do/how to help/ what is being done- we need to hear more about it!!!

[@craigp497]

A warmer earth isn't a bad thing!

[@andrewlubbers3489]

Until you're under water. Until countries start failing. Until climate migrants fill up your town and eat all the left over food. Genius

[@TouringWolf42]

Selfish. Nothing but selfishness. This heatwave is killing me. FUCK YOU

[@Name-ot3xw]

The thing that worries me is that every IPCC report includes a phrase to the effect of "things are accelerating faster than previously supposed". If we keep adjusting the model to accommodate "faster than supposed" growth, and the next year comes out even more faster than supposed, I dunno, seems like a problem.

[@GabrielBacon]

This is only true if you look at recent years. There was an entire decade(2005-2015) where the global average temperature didn’t move much at all and the predictions were much worse than reality. They’re quick to say that THAT was an outlier decade, but when we have a massive unusual global heatwave of a summer in 2023, which is the definition of an outlier, they will say that’s indicative of an accelerating temperature change. It’s not. There’s not enough data yet so it, by definition, is an outlier & just a weirdly hot year, which more aligns with the solar cycle than anything else.

[@sp33dling]

They fake the data. They are constantly "adjusting" past temperatures based on a number of excuses to make them cooler. They claim stuff like temperature gauges weren't accurate enough etc, and then adjust the data to the numbers that meet their agenda. Then their models are constantly wrong. And as the saying goes, if the predictions are wrong, it's because the hypothesis was incorrect. That's how real science works.

[@RyanMWilliams]

They also assume that heat exchange with the interior of the Earth can't change on the order of a human life span while there is no measurement to support that since most of the Earth's surface is covered in water and we know more about Mars than we do about the Ocean floor.

[@mirfjc]

The model isn't causing the warming. Even if we adjust model to accommodate faster warming (not really how it works), there's no causal loop that that then makes Earth warm even faster. Just means we keep under estimating it.

[@Name-ot3xw]

@@mirfjc Oh, thank goodness this poster was around to inform us that observational data doesn't cause the observational data that is observed when taking observational data.

[@jesstreloar7706]

I retired in 1993 to Washington near Puget Sound, 47.1854° N. As a lay person attentive to the natural world (climate) I had encountered in my life up to then, I figured Washington State would have the weather of San Francisco in 50 years. Robins leave the area for the winter. It heralds spring when they return. I saw my first Robin on 25 January 2024. In 1993 it was March before I saw any. There are buds on the bush in the yard. I have been studying my yard and things are changing.

[@103years]

I'm in victoria BC just north and i was shocked to see the Robin's so early as well.

[@PeachesCourage]

DR RICHARD LINDZEN? KZbin I LOOK FOR AT LEAST 2 OPINIONS DR LINDZEN HAS BEEN IN CLIMATE OVER 40 YRS AND STATES WHAT THIS IS IS POLITICS

[@Calibri57]

I am in Oregon, here for 20 years. Oregon weather is very close to what northern CA used to be in the seventies, and northern CA appears to be drying and warming. And yes, the robins are here all year long now.

[@brucehansensc]

Lindzen gets money from the coal industry. You have to know who you are getting your information from these days. @@PeachesCourage

[@kayakMike1000]

Oh darn. There's more life in your yard. How terrible, the world might end that you saw a sparrow in January.

[@paulbrend8354]

Thanks Sabine, I'm signed up with Planet Wild.

[@CurdBros]

This is amazing to me. We watch an entire video from a expert in the sciences, who spoke to multiple very specific climate experts, and who read multiple studies on climate change and then comes to conclusion that climate change is a problem and is actually possibly much worse than expected. Then people come to the comments and say “nah it’s not a problem, you are just overreacting”. We live in a time where 50% of people think getting higher education is a bad thing and trusting the experts makes you a “sheep”. I get not believing everything you see or hear, but a general study of the subject shows that climate change is, In fact, a big deal. We need to come together and tackle the problem instead of arguing the word “climate”.

[@cokikillide5855]

I tried having a conversation with someone about climate change once. Didn't know it was such a divisive topic. Everyone is offended by everything. We can't even have a discussion.

[@Bobbel888]

Suggestion to overcome this non-dicussion culture?

[@ComplexConfiguration]

Were you actually trying to have a conversation that was leading anywhere, or where you just denying climate change and that its foolish to think that, and that it doesnt matter etc. Because there you have your answer. If you don't at least entertain the other persons perspective and throw them some bones. You are not trying to have a conversation, and youre definitely not respecting their pov. But you can disagree in a sympathetic way, and have patience and understanding and some self-critique, that you actually might be wrong, and that the other person actually might be right. I find that most people unless THEY are the problem will accept that. You might not change anyones mind, but you can carry on in good spirit and friendship and talk about other stuff and share smiles and laughs.

[@Bobbel888]

@@ComplexConfiguration "denying climate change" is a battle term and feeds division, rather than discussion.

[@ppetal1]

Rubbish, that.

[@britcom1]

Climate change proponents have hyper-politicized the subject because they know their arguments are irrational but they want to win the argument by cheating and bullying. Climate change skeptics and debunkers rationally conclude that their entire theory is pseudo-science and the IPCC and their lapdogs in the science community are corrupt and full of sh!t and their models are mostly fraudulent and the numbers are cooked up. Climate change is the poster-child for junk science supplanting the old ice age scare of the 70's and the Y2K bug scare of the 90's. The skeptics dislike of bogus climate change videos are trying to do video makers a favor by warning them that they are being fooled and should wake up and stop legitimizing what is huge UN swindle that they, the UN, hope will establish a carbon tax that lines the pockets of the unelected crooks... I mean "bureaucrats"... at the UN. Nothing that the UN does is unaffected by corruption. In fact one might say that corruption is the ultimate goal of the UN. If you want to know more about the UN's corrupt climate change fraud, you should watch the documentary on the subject entitled; "The Great Global Warming Swindle'.

[@milicakekic5438]

I live on the Balkans and last year was the first time we had storms like ive never seen before, during summer, people died, children died and the temperature a few years ago never went over 33°C, but last year it was 40-42°C at times during summer season, and now we are experiencing up to 30°C in April and honestly idk what to expect

[@peterpuck1878]

Climate the movie kzbin.info/www/bejne/mICkhqasi82aqbc

[@darkforce6763]

I live in Greece, and i came to this video exactly for this reason, after experiencing 32C 3 days ago and the situation only shows that this year's summer will be the hottest on the other hand, and on the other hand it will be the coldest that it is to come. Last year in Greece we reached 48C and probably this year we'll see 50, lots of people will die of heat, especially people who cant afford air conditioning (keep in mind that Greece has some of the most expensive electricity prices in the entirety of Europe)

[@MrPONESCO]

@@darkforce6763 You should speak about "average monthy temp" , it was not as you say, wrong way to look at past summer, look greek statistics, south europe statistics, no sensible anomalies in 2023.

[@DeadlyKiss000]

​@@darkforce6763How come you have weather like that and in England it's like we never got out of February!

[@daesong1378]

In New England, I didn’t even turn on my AC last summer.

[@user-nb4ex5zk3w]

The writer Koestler was sentenced to death during the Spanish civil war. For three months in prison he felt free, happier than ever before, liberated from all burdens of life...somehow knowing we are doomed and free from a future is a freedom.

[@rapauli]

"until the worst is over"? - wait, do you mean there is a ceiling to the heat - a max duration? I have not heard anything -- please let us know.

[@Cr1z_R]

I'm Colombian and in the particular area where i live, it hasn't rain in like 2 months and counting. Water is running out, Heat is reaching peak highs, i know it because i work construction and the sun it's unbearable compared to previous years. Mind you the place i live has abundant water, but two to three months without a single drop of water dries anything including crops plus the wildfire crisis. Farmers are concerned, everyone is.😢

[@fete0]

i live in south brazil... the cut down of amazon forest changed the rains here too... now the rains that should go to colombia and other western latam countries go to here... and a lot of floods are happening

[@Cr1z_R]

@@fete0 It's really problematic how drastic it can be, most people here don't even own a car or heavy industry. Somehow we get affected 😔.

[@talpiotATprotonmailDOTcom]

It's called HAARP.

[@domenicorutigliano9717]

climate is variable and there are 10 20 50 100 200 1000 years cycle

[@ajlover5447]

There is no increase in droughts, storms, fires or extreme weather damages. The biosphere is greening, habitable lands expanding.

[@marble4533]

Locally in urban western Australia, our heatwaves last longer and night time temperatures are barely dropping under 26°c. I've noticed that many urban ecosystems are being damaged and don't get much time to heal before the next extreme

[@willem1642]

I visited Mt Cook recently and the guide was explained that the glaciers have been receding over many decades. It may be anecdotal but all the anecdotes are saying the same thing.

[@Quadrant14]

@marble4533 No you are wrong, please check the records back as far as it goes. We have had periods of years where the temperatures were just as hot, and seasons where it got colder, check out 1979 temps for the 7 month period Sept to March. People are missing the HISTORY, not going on computer generated climate models

[@antoniosanders477]

@@Quadrant14 it’s the concrete heat traps radiating heat through the night that is throwing off the statistics, in addition to the base scale for presentations being set between the small ice age and long winter anomalies as a sandbag.

[@joejoe-vx4xs]

@@Quadrant14 blah, blah, blah,

[@JetJockey87]

Living in Wanneroo, West Aus I would agree. This year we had a fire in Autumn that was suburban for the first time ever. Usually it's just rural... Now it's burning down homes in the suburbs

[@dots3v3n35]

glad you talked about this, I never knew about the hot model problem. Also you dressed pretty for this one. And the joke about dinosaurs and satellites was thoroughly enjoyed. Thank you for your work!

[@TruthTeller23914]

and one thing makes it weird, policy dictates to scrap my 2011 Audi A3 and buy a 2024 Dacia Logan witch in term makes the equation worste. But this crisis is so good when it makes people buy new stuff

[@ChaviChoffChop]

I live in Northern Europe and love my local forest. Last summer which was unusually long, dry and hot I've found out that one of my favourite spots in the forest that also had some very rare plants was being quickly destroyed by bark beetles. It was like a warzone! Huge old spruce trees were dying quickly, falling and the sound of the beetles chewing on the bark was eerie. I literally cried in shock. They were always there but never in such quanitites and destroying the forest so quickly! It came to my mind that sooner or later our forest may be completely gone if this continues. I don't know what I'm gonna do if it happens. The forest has been my best friend, therapist and also a provider of nutrient-rich food. It will be so stressful to see it dying that i may have to move elsewhere. I believe, the bark beetles propagated due to the favourable conditions, like the extremely dry, hot and long summer. I really hope it will not be like this every year, but looks like science doesn't support it.

[@andrewfong4216]

Tonga volcano 2022. Why aren't climate scientists talking more about that event that lofted huge amounts of IR-absorbing water vapor into the normally dry stratosphere where it is especially well-placed to absorb IR and affect the climate?

[@bentationfunkiloglio]

I just returned from Iceland. Had a great time hiking over glaciers that will be gone in 10 years. Real tragedy.

[@dmitripogosian5084]

But is it a win or loss for life ? Forest lost, beetles won. Sometimes it feels that climate examples are very human egoistic, but phrased as an issue of life itself. Or more specificly, we are worried for our life to be exactly as it is now and not different,, like old people want the life to be as when they were young. Should we be looking forward to changes, rather than grasping at the past ?

[@ChaviChoffChop]

@@dmitripogosian5084 To me, a selfish anthropocentric nordic woman who loves forest, it is my own personal tragedy and it matters to me the most. Of course, mentally I can empathize with the creatures who will gain something with the loss of the forest (but I'm pretty sure those who lose will be in much greater numbers), and I respect the dynamics of nature and its power over us. But emotionally I cannot accept it and will fight until I lose.

[@dmitripogosian5084]

@@ChaviChoffChop That is understandable and valid position. But perhaps when we are talking about policies for the whole human population, it makes sense to point out that we often mean preservation of life very literally as it is now. For instance, it is probably far less important than in 100 years Manhattan will be underwater than some other things, and actually it is easier to relocate Manhattan than to change climate. So are we trying to protect not exactly the most relevant things ?

[@MrAndi1281]

She was for sure not kidding when she mentioned "...it will be quite depressing" :(

[@hillaryillonlytalktowhitep2106]

Nope, because u aren't OPPRESSED like me: We should welcome Global Warming because Africans are used to WARM climate & get "ashey" in cold weather... THEREFORE... Trying to reverse Global Warming IS RACIST!!!😅😂😊

[@Dennzer1]

If new materials are discovered by AI that are 100X better at absorbing atmospheric C02 and turn it into inert, solid C02, then that will allow us to solve this in a novel way.

[@maxfaktor4776]

The challenge is not the absorbing material alone, but the energy you need to pass all the air through the material. Ok if installed with a Carbon dioxide producing power plant, but to forget for processing ambient air.

[@amymason156]

I don't find it depressing, I find it energizing to have a problem laid out that we have to do something about. Depressing would be if things would improve if we did nothing.

[@ThadiusAndreus]

I'm convinced that people's dislike of the the topic is less morbid and more philosophical, to maintain a better mental quality of life, especially if we have little time left, we must all accept our inevitable mortality.

[@MrSlim325]

For about 10 years or so, there is almost no more snowing in Romania in winter time. Before a proper winter was with temps well below -10 c, and 20 - 30 cm of snow almost all winter long. Now its like autumn or spring. Nobody seems to care

[@ingusmant]

BTW you forgot about 3 countries in the heat death zone having nukes and willing to use them in that situation.

[@ra7e]

My home in the south of India used to have really cool and pleasant winters. ❄️ I remember my childhood days snuggling under a thick blanket and telling stories to my younger sister. Or the cool nights in December, waiting for the Christmas carol to come to our home and sing for us 🎄🎅 Now, just 20 years later, there is no coolness left. Winters are sweltering hot. The only luck we have is the monsoon during the peak summer months, which cools us down. But this is not the case for our neighboring states, and frankly, I am afraid how long even the monsoons will last because they have become very unpredictable. Yes, our country isn't doing the best right now, but we are picking ourselves up after 2 centuries of colonialism. There are a multitude of social issues that makes people, especially women want to migrate west. But good changes are happening. I am wishing with all my heart that people and all governments take this matter of climate change seriously, provide solutions and bring about results. Our state, Kerala, is beautiful. We want to live here. It is home 🏡

[@AA-yc8yr]

Yeah, it's the colonialism that holds you back. Wow.

[@ra7e]

@AA-yc8yr What you say is true. What holds us back is the lack of money and resources, which oddly started somewhere around the 1800s. 🤔 Most of us hold no grudges, the past is past. We are bettering us in the best way possible with the given situation, and we will continue to do so. Indians are tough that way. Religion and politics may be slowing our progress, but most major countries have gone through that at one point in time. All the Western countries seem to have come out of it, somewhat unharmed ✝️⚔️🛡 We are holding out hope too, for a better tomorrow.

[@cmonofficial]

@@AA-yc8yr he/she didn't say that

[@AA-yc8yr]

@@ra7e Oh, I see. All those 'resources' vanished, with 19c. tech no less, and India became a barren, resource-less place, did it? And same for the 'money', which of course is precisely why India ranks 5th richest country in the world nowadays, ahead of the UK, and - let me think - 70 years after independence? That's mirculous, no? Having been left resourceless and pennyless, it's now one of the richest, even if it hasn't developed that much socially. Peculiar that all former British colonies do better economically than other countries' former colonies, as well as many states that we never colonised. It's almost as if there's a common denominator for doing that well. But then, also, one can only wonder if a) India would have even existed its current state, and size, had it not been for colonisation, given as it was a 100 or so little kindgoms at the time of British invasion; and b) even if it had managed to unify - and do so non-violently, no less (I mean, one needs only. go back to the 50s and the Hindu-Muslim pogroms, after all, to test the 'non-violence' hypothesis) - what it would have looked like, e.g., would it have been a democracy? 'cause, there really is little by way of example in the whole region to suggest natural propensity for equality and human development, unless it was brought in from outside. And before you show off your hypocricy yet again on the subject of equality, given your colonial history, do consider that nowadays India is considered among the most racist countries worldwide - far more racist that its coloniser, and the country with the highest number of modern slaves. I doubt you can give that to colonialism, or 'stolen' resources and money, when the country that colonised yours is nowhere near as racist, for example, and was the first country in human history to outlaw slavery.

[@AA-yc8yr]

@@cmonofficial Yes, they did. I hate to point it out, but you clearly cannot read with understanding.

[@leegrisham6892]

Bless you! I adore articulate thoughtful presentation!

[@emoritzi]

Youre channel is amazing, Sabine🎉

[@mckennasweda3614]

"Those poor people who dont conveniently die right away." Sabine you are a rockstar

[@tombeegeeeye5765]

Her sardonic comment is the official policy the the American Republican Party it its MAGA Christians.

[@anvilbrunner.2013]

A rabid eugenicist. A predator trapped in a gilded cage plotting the death of everything moving freely. Evil itself is what I take from the presentation.

[@TanyaLairdCivil]

What people miss about the climate migration crisis is that nation states do not simply lay down and die. Northern nations are regressing politically, turning more to ethnonationalism, halting immigration, and turning their borders into armed fortresses. The plan the first world is converging to is to raise the drawbridge and shoot anyone who shows up at the gates. While this technique can keep out a loose flood of disorganized migrants, it fails when actual nation states are involved. Border patrols aren't going to stop armies. And the real scary thing about this is we're talking massive heavily armed nation states with nothing to lose. What will the leaders of India do if they're told that in ten years, 95% of their population will be dead due to lethal heatwaves? If history teaches us anything, it's that those leaders will start demanding a place for their people to migrate to. They won't just want us to let immigrants in, they will want us to hand over some of the increasingly habitable high latitude territories as land for entire nations to relocate to. And these governments really will have nothing to lose. We have been spoiled in the post-1945 world in that nuclear weapons, for all their terror, have meant that the big nation states don't fight total wars against each other anymore. There's literally no reason to; anything you would hope to gain from attacking another nuclear power would be more than cancelled out by the apocalyptic destruction a nuclear conflict would unleash. But if your nation is already facing annihilation, if doing nothing will result in the certain doom of your people, what do you have to lose? If the Indian subcontinent becomes completely uninhabitable, the people living there, in the most populace nation on Earth, literally have nothing to lose by throwing their entire society into a total war effort to capture more habitable lands. Even if that conflict results in a nuclear war, it's still a rational strategy for them to pursue. If you're facing a changing climate that will kill 95% of your people, a nuclear war, even one that kills 75% of your people, is a good move. Vast regions of the globe being rendered uninhabitable is one of the few scenarios where a nuclear exchange may actually be a sane choice to a sufficiently desperate country. And the reason I mention nukes is to break through Western chauvinism and beliefs about the absolute military superiority of Western countries. Even if you believe that the northern countries, by din of their vastly superior military acumen, will somehow resist an entire Indian subcontinent thrown into a total war economy, nukes put the lie to that idea. We're engineering a situation where even nuclear war is a rational option for nations of sufficient desperation. And most people are in complete denial about it, thinking that the worst that will happen through climate change is a few coastal vacation homes get flooded.

[@m.e.345]

I wish it was funny.

[@johntresemer5631]

nice synchronicity, five seconds before I called her a “rockstar” too! 😎

[@TravisKerr1]

I just wanted to say, thank you so much for the warning for people with anxiety. Most creators would use that part of the video to really suck people in, and instead you encourage to stop watching. I have severe panic attacks about existential topics, and often I don't have the sense to stop consuming things that I know will stoke that in me. Having you advise to leave the video was so helpful.

[@Mike80528]

My son taught me to embrace insufficient action. Look into it. It may seem like a waste but it really can help.

[@debrabarnhardt1103]

Also anxious, but I watched and I was gratified to hear someone state out loud every single painfully obvious result of climate change. So didn't make me more anxious made me feel...finally it's not me it's reality.

[@Just_Sara]

I agree, it was a strange kind of relief to just hear someone say it all. @@debrabarnhardt1103

[@blucat4]

That's what the left do, induce fear to more easily control the people.

[@AlexDanielCPhT]

I'm a total layman at climatology (I'm a CPhT and a retired medical transcriptionist), but I'm not at all convinced that whatever global warming is currently happening is not simply the Earth returning to the primordial state. Someone with some climate credentials, please tell me: Did the warming that ended the Ice Age ever itself end?

[@DrVaticinator]

Thank you for your efforts in this.

[@opshlds]

As a layman, I appreciate your videos Doctor Hossenfelder, and the time and effort you and your team put into breaking down the most complex of topics into easily digestible bite-sized pieces. Thank you Doctor!

[@acasccseea4434]

I think the best way for us layman to talk about climate change, it to be informed, but not use it as a tool, because we can't explain it as well as communicators. instead, we should talk about climate change as a humanitarian crisis, its not whether or not, or who did it, but why aren't we helping people who are in need, especially when it'll damage us as well

[@ashroskell]

I wonder if it has occurred to Sabine that companies and other vested interests might be using bots to mass downvote her climate videos? They only need to convince her that it’s an unpopular topic, if they hope to stop her from making them. At least that’s what they will be gambling on, if they hope to influence her at all? So, it won’t matter to them that others can’t see the numbers as you can.

[@Mass-jab-death-2025]

I’m more afraid of gravity change. Since the widespread availability of backyard trampolines started in the late 60s the earth’s rotation has slowly been knocked out of kilter. It is now becoming critical, countless billions are being spent of so called ‘climate change” yet this more pressing pending disaster is largely ignored. I can solve this problem once and for all using strategically placed counter weights on springs at strategic gravity hotspots ( namely my backyard) and I can do all this for a cool 2.5 billion dollars. Don’t wait for the world to end with us all either shooting off into space of being crushed into the ground. Send your tax deductible donation to the “Harvest the gullible fools Institute”. We are also hiring the services of Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny to solve Climate Change. Santa is going to fly his slay around during his off season and the Easter Bunny will accompany him sprinkling the clouds with left over chocolate which has been finely powdered. This will stain the clouds brown and block the sun ending the dreaded warming that we are assured will one day cause sea levels to rise somehow. This can be done for the bargain price of 1.25 ! So what are you waiting for Send your tax deductible donation to the “Harvest the gullible fools Institute” NOW or they may be no tomorrow !

[@UnlinkedCashews]

@@acasccseea4434 it isn’t a crisis when the historical average temperature is higher than the current. 150 years of data on a 4.5 billion year old planet isn’t enough data. Ice core samples say the average temp is higher in virtually all times. We are in a cold age right now and coming out of it.

[@Berkeloid0]

@@UnlinkedCashews You're missing the point. Nobody is saying the climate is different to historical times, they are saying the climate is becoming different to what we need today for our survival. When you say the climate was this warm billions of years ago, remember that there weren't any humans alive back then either which is what everyone's concern is. If you don't consider the potential loss of your food supply as a crisis, perhaps you'll at least be concerned about having millions of refugees suddenly invading your country looking for food and a place to live.

[@Hei1Bao4]

I don't watch for the humor. I watch for the educational content. From what I can tell, the worst-case scenarios tend to be more accurate to date. And since no one wants to be seen as an alarmist, those predictions get rolled back to something more palatable. Politics in science communication. Keep it up, Sabine.

[@halbouma6720]

Exactly, the only thing we've learned is that we've practically exceeded every worse case scenario in the previous global warming models so far. I don't know why they'd decide to now die on the climate sensitivity hill for why global warming couldn't be happening even faster still.

[@watchuwant1560]

I feel like a nutcase when I talk about it to friends. Don't want to sound like an alarmist, but we kinda...need to do something about this.

[@MitroVorga]

Don't smoke please. You are contributing for the worst-case scenario.

[@aquelpibe]

@Hei, I have read comments by scientists to the effect that they sometimes downplay the risk so as not to be seen as lunatic alarmists and also in fear that people will decide it´s hopeless and give up all efforts. In my opinion things are going to get very bad, that is inevitable at this stage, but we can still prevent them from getting truly horrible.

[@jhoughjr1]

Been seeing alarmists for over 30 years man. Those paper straws are truly saving us all

[@jackjones7665]

"Worried" just in time for summer heat!

[@julienrockingham-ip4co]

This is for all the Homeowners and parents to figure out

[@mmeis2389]

Ty for science truth. Texas weather patterns are changing from my 50 years of observing. Even dad a chem engineer, saw it in the 1970s. Keep teaching for our future children, a few are listening. Truth is never dishonorable, TY.

[@85Funkadelic]

Were supposed to have a foot of snow and 10 degree temps up here in Minnesota but its getting up to the 50s for over week straight.

[@katelynchanslor423]

It’s so noticeable in the middle as well. In Ky we went from regular several inches of snow all winter even a decade ago, remember when 21• was noteworthy. Now it’s rain and 20sto 50s all winter with a few dry arctic blasts at near zero. My oldest kids played in the snow regularly and their younger brother barely remembers. The plants have been so confused earlier and earlier.

[@katelynchanslor423]

My husband wants to move south for the weather and I’m saying the south is coming to us!

[@Alastair510]

Scotland is seeing temps over 19C. Should be under 10C. When I moved to the UK, over 35years ago, it was normal to get 30cm of snow (that's in Yorkshire). Now, it is surprising if we get 2, 3 cm.

[@oliverroedel1111]

yeah, 50 years in millions, and YOU "know" climate is changing and the world will end in fire or ice or whatever is the panic hype of the moment.

[@markwarner4484]

I waited until the "Stop watching if you have anxiety" warning to give a thumbs up.

[@thornyback]

I think I might need a similar trigger warning for this year's elections, nearly half of world's population will be electing leaders this year and there has never been more misinformation and hate online.

[@nobodyimportant7804]

Go watch some videos from real climate scientists that reacted to this video and you will realize that Sabine is out of her depth.

[@holgernarrog]

All the green NGO and their supporters in the media live from such fantasy to freighten the poeple.

[@ulhi7564]

​@@nobodyimportant7804 a comment like this is useless without a reference to the other videos that you prefer

[@oldineamiller9007]

​@@nobodyimportant7804 Who do you mean by "real climate scientist"? Name at least three of them.

[@jonathanadams5483]

Something else hardly anyone mentions is the large uncertainty in what greenhouse gas concentrations actually were (say) 100 million years ago. I'd rather trust a 'hot model' based on known present day conditions, than data from the deep past, when fundamental variables like greenhouse gases are not well constrained.

[@HelmsRupture]

Pluvial Event, which occurred about 232 million years ago, marked a dramatic turn in Earth's climate history to a prolonged phase of intense rainfall that lasted between one and two million years.

[@Beeterfish]

I live up north, way above the Arctic Circle. Back in the day, we used to be able to go cross-country skiing from late April to May. That hasn't been possible for a good ten years or so. Spring keeps coming earlier and earlier every year.

[@JoHouse533]

Yes, sadly that is what the science predicts... 2 degrees warming globally means much more warming at high latitudes, due to less light being reflected when sea-ice and glaciers retreat and snow pack lasts for shorter periods every year. So what you are experiencing is the self-reinforcing feedback mechanism in action, both cause and effect of climate change in a way.

[@i_dont_know_who_i_am69]

Well, perhaps the AMOC will collapse and it might be cooler in your area 😅

[@tbl268]

Yes that's what happens when earth exits an ice age. There used to be a mile of ice covering most of North America. Good thing it melted.

[@JoHouse533]

@@tbl268 And by that you are implying that it would be equally good if the remaining glaciers melted as well? Because that doesn't logically follow at all from your statement. Also, it has been well established at this point that the effects of our carbon emissions make what is happening now very much not a "normal exiting of an ice age".

[@tbl268]

@JoHouse533 Life flourishes when temperatures warms and there is lots of CO2 in the atmosphere. Millions of acres of farmland could be opened up if temperatures warm and ice melts.

[@nickpain6827]

I watched this after returning from my birthday party (*gulp*) and it depressed and scared the hell out of me. And I liked it, Sabine, to be honest because we desperately need to understand clearly what the possible consequences of our actions are and we need communicators like you out there explaining things in ways that bring the data down to real life scenarios that we may well be living in our lifetimes. Do I like the message? No, I hate the message. But do I like the messaging? Yes, I love that. Thanks for sharing, sincerely.

[@loungelizard3922]

Happy Birthday!!

[@nickpain6827]

🤣 Thank you!!!!@@loungelizard3922

[@nuklearboysymbiote]

Welp… happy birthday i guess

[@goiterlanternbase]

If this scared you, you were not listening at all🙄 Choosing to ignore things, makes them not going away.

[@nuklearboysymbiote]

@@goiterlanternbase bro ur assuming sooooo much about the commenter. Literally sabine herself said she did not like this news and is stressed

[@arthurbttf]

Currently sitting in northeast region of Brasil and I have never felt or seen such hot temperature and craziness of rain. It has caused massive amounts of flooding and destruction. Wind has also slowed, almost disappeared.

[@arthurbttf]

@@CarlosMoscoso-iu9ix Faz tu kkkkk A gente se lasca junto

[@snobrder4evr]

9:55 I love seeing this Gif of Greg Miller on the Off Topic set pop up as a default usage of the "confused math person"

[@fm2dmax]

13:13 its mind blowing how few people know about Ocean Acidification causing a repeat of the Permian Mass Extinction pattern of destroying the phytoplankton that makes 70% of the oxygen we breathe!

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

how many know about glaciations mechanics? including Gobi desert, I bet not even you

[@dallassegno]

So you believe in things you've never yourself verified because you feel it's right? Congratulations it's a religion

[@mindme6904]

There are natural buffers that prevent extreme drops in PH.

[@TechnoMinarchistBall]

The Coral Reefs are only growing.

[@nolaspeaker5656]

Nonsense. Additional CO2 is absorbed by plankton just as excess CO2 is breathed in to make chlorophyl by land-bases plants.

[@damienpeladan481]

As a Frenchman, I'm not used to hearing a German person recommending to "build nuclear, build nuclear, build nuclear". It's an unusual but pleasant feeling, and I hope it will finally be echoed more widely among the German population. Building nuclear power plants takes a long time, and the German government is not even at the stage of thinking about possibly building a new one... This policy error will be costly for everyone

[@deusexmachina5769]

Nuclear is way more expensive and time consuming to build and operate than renewable energy sources. For now, renewables are a bigger focus, because it's just faster and cheaper, which is really important if we want to quickly get away from fossil fuels.

[@damienpeladan481]

@@deusexmachina5769 Then why close down the existing nuclear plants and replace them by coal plants ? The government shouldn’t have closed the existing ones down before enough renewables had been built. That is counterproductive from a climate crisis point of view

[@deusexmachina5769]

@@damienpeladan481 Yes, it is. That's why most parties advocated for doing exactly that. First you build more renewables and then you shut down nuclear. But the CDU is incredibly corrupt and was obviously bought by the coal lobby, so they decided to instead replace it with coal. But now the question is what to do now and building new nuclear is just too expensive and time consuming, so they're focusing on renewables instead.

[@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL]

In The U.S., private insurance companies won't insure nuclear plants. Why do you think that is?

[@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL]

@@deusexmachina5769 The problem with renewables is their inconsistency. Oil, natural gas and nuclear plants have to be ready to go instantly when the wind doesn't blow or the sun doesn't shine, and they're more inefficient at startup, so the result is MORE energy loss than if there was just one conventional energy source.

[@gunnarolason3448]

The problem is also how the paleo temperature models were originally made. They are indirect and are comparing data of a very short period to reach a long period prediction. Then these models are used to predict temperature based on various gas levels in the ice and rocks. This means that there is potentially a large margin of errors in the predictions and unfortunately it looks like we have a circulatory presumption. Furthermore we have actually dropped the error margin in the paleo temperature data in our reporting which could explain why we try to dismiss the hot models. Yes the dinos forgot to hand over to us the temperature data.

[@jrgenlissner8886]

I am happy that Sabine now realizes how grave the climate situation is because she is such a good communicator and has impact. However, I wish she also will come to the conclusion that renewables and nuclear are not useful solutions, at least not in the long term. The root of climate change is overconsumption of resources. Converting to electrification from renewables like wind, solar, geothermal and hydro power and with backup from nuclear and energy storage require high and continuous drain on resources. This is not sustainable nor possible. So our civilizations are coming to an end if we insist on high energy production in the future. If the civilizations of our planet collapses there will be no one around to take care of the nuclear plants which will become ticking bombs for whoever survives the collapse, as many (+400) will be flooded by seawater and release radioactive substances. This is the main reason why I am against nuclear. Another problem with high energy production is destruction of the ecosystems which also will take us down. This has already started and will escalate in the future. We can only save ourselves and the planet by going back to a very primitive lifestyle. If this has no interest we are done. Our planet can sustain life for another one billion years, so I will personally opt for the primitive lifestyle on a recovered planet.

[@sergiomontes2568]

Here were I live, in La Palma, the Canary Islands, we used to get very rainy winters that allowed us to grow tropical fruits that need lots of water, specially bananas... this has changed too fast in the last 12 years... now farmers are rushing to plant olive trees... the climate here is changing from subtropical to dessert like, in a flash... This winter is being the worst... no one, no even the oldest farmers, remember a winter like this, with no rain, and very, very dry.... today, everyone is getting scared... scared about losing their livehoods, their ways of life, a way of life that had been going on for many generations now... this island, La Pama, is the only one that had been consistently getting an abundance of rain water year after year in Canary Islands archipielago, it is known as the Greent Island, and the Pretty Island... and it is drying up fast, it would be sad if it became brown...

[@user-up1id5rv2m]

As a photographer I'm already looking forward to travel to the places where less and less people live for these reasons. I'll document the destruction we did.

[@nyali2]

@@user-up1id5rv2m How did we do it? Do you know the cause? No, you have zero idea, you are just parroting a propaganda. I wish people understood elementary physics..

[@nyali2]

Did you know that the Sahara was a lush green paradise 10000 years ago? It has suddenly changed and became what it is today. What has caused it?

[@user-up1id5rv2m]

@@nyali2 Well then we didn't do it, but there is destruction still going on. It doesn't matter much to me who is responsible, I'll profit of it either way selling emotionally charged photography.

[@user-up1id5rv2m]

@@nyali2 So now that I admitted that I don't know the cause, can you tell me better?

[@vorpal120]

A common theme in my area is that homeowners are cutting down trees in their yards because they literally don't think the cooling effect of blocking the sun from their windows/houses is worth the cost of paying an arborist to maintain the tree (or doing it themselves). They would rather pay daily (in the USA) on cooling the air in their homes instead of a once a year pruning. I looked at my old neighborhood and why the trees were planted where they were during construction and they were specifically planted to block sunshine during the hottest part of the day. Huge maple trees cut down because the homeowner, "didn't want a tree in their front yard." Buddy it is in between your windows and the sun during the summer. Not to get too far into the cooling effect trees have by blocking some of the sun's rays and preventing ground heat absorption but it is a measurable phenomena. In addition, most "poor" neighborhoods have less vegetation and tree coverage and higher avg. surface/ambient area temps than ones with coverage. Now expand this to a global theme of "destruction of the environment" and you will find it is one of the "factors" that increase global temps. I think the "carbon emissions" argument is a big single contributor to one of the myriad of reason that the temps have increased year over year. Destruction of trees (small and large scale), more methane producing regions (destruction of trees for farmland), increasing population needing an increase of resources/land, vehicle emissions, industrial emissions, poor city planning (zoning) that doesn't incorporate neighborhood climate as part of the model, increasing forest fires, reliance on foods that produce pollution instead of alternatives, and political lobbyist/politicians that bring up a net "-.2 temp change or no change" as an argument against passing laws that substantially impacts peoples lives for climate change (EVs vs Petrol). As if these changes would be immediate or have a giant effect if it was just one of the multi-factor puzzle. No increase?! That is amazing compared the ever increasing temps. Minus 0.2C over 50 years?! Also stupendous vs a projected +2.0C increase over the next 100 years (at current rates). I mean, climate change prevention is not a single issue solution. I think people nowadays have been programmed to think one big problem must have one big factor that we can fix and that will negate any other contributors. Fundamentally, people do not want to "do the work" that it would take to prevent the sort equatorial inhabitation. I can see in a one or two hundred years the zones being off limits or uninhabitable and no chance of seeing the Taj Mahal or the Pyramids. To say nothing of the near total destruction of the Brazilian rainforests to probably 10% of the current area. I retired to the same place as where I grew up and I can tell you that it is significantly hotter now than it was then. You know what pictures don't show? How the temperature feels if you were standing there in the picture. Imagine having a gallery of pictures from different time periods inside of temperature controlled rooms. Where could stroll between them with the ever increasing temperatures until now. Then one that jumps to 2075's projected "hottest day on record" and you can only manage a couple minutes before it becomes unbearable/dangerous.

[@MazzyMars]

Very insightful comment. I just want to say that last idea of an art exhibition is extremely good! If you have any passion/motivation to make that a reality, I highly encourage you.

[@Dragrath1]

Yes the loss of forests and tree cover in general is a huge problem with a huge role in climate feedbacks given how plants have evolved to modify the climate. Since it doesn't get nearly enough attention one other major component in terms of the landscaping problems are the most of the so called "arborists" in the US being unqualified and focusing on immediate aesthetics rather than accounting for how the plants will respond to the damage which is one of the main reasons so much "trimming" is needed in the first place. There are multiple reasons for this one landscapers are primarily paid based on the hours they work and the contracts for the companies are largely based on the amount of grass they cut or the amount of trees they trim etc. so there is an economic incentive to do the job poorly as that means they get to come out more frequently than they otherwise would have had to. Additionally the schooling and certifications are expensive and would allow workers to have more bargaining rights for higher pay so instead its cheaper to use unqualified immigrant labor who are afraid of complaining about illegal wage theft (that is the abuse of the independent contractor and part time labels to avoid paying the legal benefits and minimum wage required for full time employment etc.) because they are afraid of being deported due to being in the US illegally. Lets not forget how poorly maintained their equipment is with trimmers and pruning in general being a major vector for accelerating plant disease transmission and then the vast amount of fossil fuel derived resources and labor that are needed to maintain lawns, a practice which in its current form was largely developed as a marketing ploy by the chemical industry looking for a new postwar market with most of the chemicals used in lawncare in the US being banned elsewhere in the developed world for the strong links to diseases like cancer. And they tend to prune entre branches off at the base of the trunk which is I have learned a professional no no since that exposes the dense dead structural heartwood core to the environment allowing heartwood rot to commence which is a major factor behind why city trees are so prone to collapsing on houses cars and people. If you want to prune plants properly you need to remove unwanted branches early before they can develop a large woody core. There is also the who problem of lopping off lower branches to maintain that "lollypop shape" as that makes trees top heavy and thus much more prone to getting torn down in a storm which combined with heartwood rot due to bad pruning practices means The lawn and the manicured gardens were originally developed as a status symbol by the European nobility/aristocracy in order to show off to one another how much wealth they had that they could afford to not only leave land fallow but afford to splurge on servant labor to keep the land in what they deemed to be an aesthetically pleasing unnatural state. In the US like other British colonies this was later adopted heavily by the slave plantation culture which was what led to its adoption being a core part of the white flight movement that was the American Suburbia with the marketing efforts of the chemical industry teaming up with the long dominant white supremacists sympathizers. I should note that other aristocracies/nobilities have developed similar fallow land status symbol habits before such as in ancient china the same requirements of constant disturbance maintained through excessive employment of servant/slave labor. It all comes down to showing off wealth and power through frivolous waste a favorite of the rich and powerful since probably forever. So much area here in the US is needlessly maintained as manicured desolate lawns which denies the land from functioning as part of the most powerful known reservoir of carbon sequestration the soil. We also can't forget ground compactification which current land development practices have become significantly worse at compared to the 1950's with the soil infiltration rate of modern lawns being no more than 0.013 inches per hour compared to around half an inch per hour of older 1950's era construction. Lawn grasses lack the extensive root systems of natural or wild grasses and thus are unable to break up the compacted soils thus the water infiltration rate is little better than concrete. And lets not forget leaf blowers especially the gas powered kind which in 30 minutes of use releases as much carbon dioxide as a car at 30 mph traveling 440 miles and also release a large amount of unburned particulate organic material from their exhaust which compounds with the amount of scoured soil particulates their use exhumes from the ground to cause an amount of air particulate pollution corresponding to around 80 cars do within in a year of regular use. Really this is true of any gas powered consumer appliance since they are largely unregulated in their emissions within the US. Fun fact did you know that 80% of the trophic energy transport to higher levels of the food web within a temperate forest comes from the leaf litter? That compounded with trees pumping generally around half of the carbon they fix underground to feed the symbiotic microbes in the soil they depend on means that forests are major sinks. That factored in by the cooling effects of evapotranspiration and infrared reflection means that plants not only cool things down but sequester considerable carbon beyond what grass is capable of if left undisturbed. Lawns are anything but undisturbed requiring high continuous soil disturbance to exist/persist meaning they are a continuous carbon source.

[@Theravadinbuto]

@@Dragrath1Lots of good points in your comment. However, please be careful repeating “facts” that are internet memes, not truth. For instance, your leaf blower emissions comment is someone’s deliberate distortion of the facts. Leaf blowers which are 2 stroke may emit some specific chemical compound at that rate, when compared with a catalytic converter equipped car, but overall emissions - especially CO2 emissions - are linearly related to the amount of fuel consumed - that’d be a heck of a leaf blower that consumed as much gas as a car going 440 miles 😁. Probably blow both the leaves and your house into the next block.😁

[@kerrenomalley7432]

The art gallery is a great idea. Imagine it at a local level whereby the heat changes are equivalent to the location of the gallery. If you're in Europe you can feel the temperature of what it was like 5 years ago with visuals of the surrounding landscape vs now, vs 2.5 degrees, vs 3, vs 4, the landscape changing in line with the temperature rise. Galleries replicated in every country or region.

[@vorpal120]

@@kerrenomalley7432 Even better. Perfect art show gallery experience. Or even maybe one of those globe 360 degree theaters showing the landscape and the temperature changing as the visuals change. Have you ever been to one of those theaters? I saw one in a museum as an underwater experience. It was mind blowing!

[@peterhodge3931]

Hi Sabine. To be honest, I'm one of those whom has become fed up with climate change discussions, programmes, videos and expert opinions. But I can honestly say, your video is one of the most convincing arguments I have come across, to wake up my concern about climate change affects. Although, let's hope your doomsday predictions are wrong and others wake before its too late to stop the human misery that sounds inevitable unless we act. Thank you for the video.

[@randylester1519]

I see a spectrum so I made up some words 1. **Bayesian Flexibility**: This quadrant represents an adaptive approach where beliefs and models are continuously updated based on new evidence and data. It values flexibility and integration of information from various sources. 2. **Retrospective Anchoring**: This is the rigid, past-focused quadrant where new information is only accepted if it aligns with existing data and beliefs. It values stability and consistency over adaptability. 3. **Exploratory Innovation**: This quadrant emphasizes a forward-looking approach, constantly seeking new data and theories, often at the expense of disregarding past data. It values innovation and the pursuit of novel ideas, even if they deviate significantly from established knowledge. 4. **Conservative Validation**: This quadrant prioritizes a cautious approach, where new data is scrutinized and only gradually incorporated into existing frameworks. It values thorough validation and careful consideration, aiming to avoid premature conclusions and maintain reliability.

[@RaniVeluNachar-kx4lu]

In a secondary school biology class, I was reminded of the behavior of bacteria. The instructor created a nutrient broth and placed the broth with some gelatin to make a nutrient medium which he poured into Petri Dishes. Then he took a wire loop and heated in and then allowed it to cool. Then he took a sample from water, I believe it was pond water, and put the sample on the center of the nutrient media. Sealed the dish and put it in an incubator. We watched the progress daily from a small colony of bacteria in the inoculation zone, and each day the colony spread out in a circular ring until finally it reached the side of the dish and the colony died. Human civilizations in the past have acted the same way. Using up resources from the start and not being able to learn to regenerate soils (now called Regenerative Agriculture), and slowly the civilization used up the resources and expanded outward until it came in contact with other competitors. Then predictably they either learned to trade and exchange ideas and make a better world for the combined societies OR as often is the case, they fight over land, water, food and other forms of wealth.

[@vi683a]

Did bacteria learn to trade, exchange ides, and make a better world.... then stop making the comparison.

[@ardentenquirer8573]

It seems you are talking about exponential growth*** Do you not think we are just biological machines?

[@tom-kz9pb]

Humans have learned to trade, and to argue about ideas. To make a better world? Not so much.

[@user-jw1tc4eo5e]

@@vi683a Its clear is global scale Isla de Pascua, a Mad Max world is comming get out of cities

[@rohdri]

​@@vi683a To be honest, I'm not sure if humans have learned to do that last one. Time will tell I guess.

[@schlinzgau]

Thank you for repeatedly addressing this topic, even if it is unpopular. We need to act.

[@anaveragehuman2937]

Would you change your mind if you discovered that the people who present the data and make arguments based on that data actually manipulated that data to favor a profitable agenda they're pushing?

[@memegazer]

Some of the most nuanced coverage of this topic I have seen from any source. Like Sabine has actually made me think about my own feelings on this topic in the context of how it is politicized vs how to actually think about it methodically/critically. Imo she desrves my sub just for that, never mind all the other great content she puts out.

[@anvilbrunner.2013]

Carbon neutralise yourself then.

[@Nostrudoomus]

You mean, act out!

[@memegazer]

@@anaveragehuman2937 If your basis for making this claim is bc researchers are incentivised by money. Then this will be more of tautology than an inditement of any of the evidence. But congrats I guess, scientific research is also motivated by monetary incentives...Captain Obvious saves the day again.

[@youmakeitreal]

"Change is inevitable to struggle is an option"

[@user-vk5vh8gr2t]

I don’t thing the loss of humanity will be such a big deal for Earth.

[@prathmsonwane22]

I resides in middle of india, in 2023 we didn't had monsoon and winter, in December 2023 hottest temprature recoded was 28 degree Celsius and today in February 2024 it was 38 degree Celsius. Not everyone in India can afford air conditions because it may cost their monthly income or for some year of saving.

[@derpina8330]

Overpopulation problem

[@alexpetrov8871]

>Not everyone in India can afford air conditions Dig deep undegound houses, like 10m deep. It will help. There is plenty of free volume undeground, I bet it is enough for several current human populations.

[@deckofcardboard]

@@alexpetrov8871 You completely forgot about population density's effect on the space needed for the earth to regulate temperature. As well as problems of flooding from land close to sea level, made worse by rising sea levels. This might work in the countryside where people aren't so crowded together, but not in the city. You'll also need to be very proactive in changing laws, to limit heat production underground, and to force people in cities to relocate and possibly create twice as many more cities than currently exist. (rather than allowing environmental disasters to cause death and poor health to motivate people to flee out of desperation.)

[@midnight8341]

@@alexpetrov8871 that is a horrible idea for a country that experiences incredibly heavy rainfall for some MONTHS every year, while the average population is too poor to afford modern building materials at a standard that would allow to built flood-proof underground shelters. What you'd do is create an enormous mass of underground water reservoirs that would erode the foundation of the buildings on top, collapsing them in turn. And while they still stand, it's a prime breeding ground for mosquitoes, generating a lot of new disease vectors in an area with already a lot of insect-borne viral diseases.

[@alexpetrov8871]

@@midnight8341 >that is a horrible idea for a country that experiences incredibly heavy rainfall Gosh, that was a joke )))

[@OldJackWolf]

I feel for you, Sabine. I realized all this over a dozen years ago, after a brief stint working in the ecological services department that did consulting work for the fossil fuel industry. The changes I was seeing in the field indicated a higher climate sensitivity than that was accepted by scientist. No one would listen, and certainly not the client. Furthermore, I realized the change was accelerating in the late 90s, but silly me, I assumed that since the outcome was so horrific, the government must surely be working it. After all, their sr. scientists knew about it too. But that was a bad assumption on my part. Don't make the same mistake.

[@TerryConspiracy420]

. *Was the Garden of Eden supercharged with atmospheric CO2?* Fact... All human activity = only 4% of Global CO2 production today. Volcanoes alone, are dumping more CO2 into the atmosphere in a matter of weeks than humans do in a year. Fact... Colorless, odorless atmospheric CO2 is the exact opposite of air pollution, and actually stimulates healthy plant and animal growth.. Fact... The 500,000,000 year average for atmospheric CO2 is well over 1,000 ppm. Fact... During the Age of Dinosaurs, atmospheric CO2 was well over 5,000 ppm. Since the last Ice Age 12,000 years ago, atmospheric CO2 has doubled to 420 ppm. . Can you see how far from "normal" CO2 levels we still are today? . *Stop feeling guilty about human activity creating CO2.* As long as the trends are towards a warmer climate, we all have to stop being afraid of our naturally changing climate over time, adapt, and enjoy the ride (my opinion). Who disagrees with any of these facts?... Anyone? All of these facts are easy to prove true, so, who/what is promoting Global Fear of Climate Change, and why are they doing it? Answer:... If you have not personally investigated the World Ecinomic Forum Great Reset 2030 Agenda yet, now's the time.

[@ColdHawk]

I had a conversation with a neighbor about climate recently, having read Hanson et al. a decade ago and the recent paper, and he said something similar about governments working on solutions. He mentioned a number of programs and referred to the U.N.’s initiatives. He felt that there had to be plans in place to cope. Four years ago I might have nodded along with him, but we are all a little wiser now about the ability of governments to deal with serious, global problems. I said, “You mean like how the world handled COVID?” To his credit he just looked down at his feet and said, “Well, $&#€!”

[@TerryConspiracy420]

@@ColdHawk *If the World Economic Forum Great Reset Agenda impact on Liberal government policy is not part of the Foreign Interference Public Inquiry, it's only another deliberate distraction from the real threat we must deal with. Anyone that disagrees, has not personally investigated what the mainstream media is deliberately not telling us. Can we all agree on that?* How about this... . *Was the Garden of Eden supercharged with atmospheric CO2?* Fact... All human activity = only 4% of Global CO2 production today. Volcanoes alone, are dumping more CO2 into the atmosphere in a matter of weeks than humans do in a year. Fact... Colorless, odorless atmospheric CO2 is the exact opposite of air pollution, and actually stimulates healthy plant and animal growth.. Fact... During the Age of Dinosaurs, atmospheric CO2 was well over 5,000 ppm. Fact... The 500,000,000 year average for atmospheric CO2 is well over 1,000 ppm. Since the last Ice Age 12,000 years ago, atmospheric CO2 has doubled to 420 ppm. . Can you see how far from "normal" CO2 levels we still are today? . Stop feeling guilty about human activity creating CO2. As long as the trends are towards a warmer climate, we all have to stop being afraid of our naturally changing climate over time, and enjoy the ride (my opinion). Who disagrees with any of these facts?... Anyone?

[@MrHaggyy]

Well governemts alone can't solve the problem, jet alone one. They can only translate a fixed solution in required laws. At that point you still need "a industry" that enables all people to follow up on those laws. So targetting the oil industry was a good call, even if it didn't had the effect you hoped for. I work in automotive and it's a tough call to find a compromise between what the customer wants, what the government wants, what we can actually do and what the environment requires. From what i can tell your client was listening. Fuel, lubricants and plastic are partners with rather bigger departsments in that area. Sadly not all of them succed. Michelin is closing doors for PKW tires, because the customer preferes the putative cheaper option that is not living up to their standard. The best thing for us would be if the customer would value the environmental quality in money, so i actually have a budget to do something. Second best bet is the government requires it for every competitor, so it's not a huge risk for us to take.

[@blahpunk1]

@@ColdHawk - Covid was a real turning point for me. Before that I thought we were capable of working together towards common goals. Now I know that was a naïve assumption to make.

[@michaelstefureak9896]

In my region of western Canada, we're seeing forest fires that are not only burning more intensely and for longer but we're now learning that the trees may never come back. It's sobering and terrifying. Oh, I almost forgot, a few years ago we had a heat dome in Vancouver where the temperatures sat at 45 Celsius for over six days. 638 people died in a four day span and it's largely forgotten. It's worth noting that in the previous 15-years that I lived here before the heat dome, the highest temperature that I'd seen here was 28 Celsius.

[@TeddyRumble]

I KNOW!!! Fires were UNKNOWN before the industrial revolution!

[@coryrichardson7272]

I didn't even notice you can't see the number of dislikes anymore, sad they won't leave things alone. Great info as always, thanks